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Speaker 2: What's going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: Of all the rumors and speculation, it ends up being

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul traded to the Warriors. We will dive into

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul and NBA waters. Rich Ornberger live in the

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Speaker 3: FSR new fancy studios there. Oh yeah, in the Sherman

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Speaker 3: Oaks area. How's everything going there, Rich? Do you have

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Speaker 3: like fancy buttons to push and everything there?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, we uh, we have so many buttons in

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Speaker 2: this studio. And there's phones, and there's wires and headphones

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm having uh, I'm having a good old time missing

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Speaker 2: you guys. There's enough, uh, there's enough counter space here

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Speaker 2: for and a few more microphones. So one of these

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Speaker 2: days we all have to reconnoiter in the same corner

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Speaker 2: of the US of guy. I think that's I think

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Speaker 2: that's due and maybe overdue.

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Speaker 1: I already know the day. I already said. It's it's

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Speaker 1: when the Padres and the Dodgers play. That's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really, I mean listen, I don't want to. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to have to, you know, kick it up

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Speaker 1: the corporate ladder there, but I will if I if

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Speaker 1: I have to. I think that's a fantastic What did

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Speaker 1: I call it a football prep weekend? Because let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: we're getting close, guys. We get the July mini camps.

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Speaker 2: And training camps seventy five days or something like that.

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Speaker 1: We are chugging along the old summer Chu Chu train

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Speaker 1: here that I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: We need fancier taste.

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Speaker 3: We should have pushed to be in London Today's key

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Speaker 3: and crumpets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I it's missed opportunity, right it is.

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Speaker 3: We could have previewed the game and then gone to

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Speaker 3: it immediately afterward.

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Speaker 2: What do we think we could have We could have

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Speaker 2: had Sammy, our our engineer, right off his trip to

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Speaker 2: London as a as a scouting trip for us. We

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Speaker 2: could have said the whole trip was just for him

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Speaker 2: to set up broadcast locations for us on a double

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tottenham. Maybe's in town. Perhaps, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could have made a whole weekend out of it.

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Speaker 1: Clubs, football clubs.

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Speaker 2: I would have put on my best kit and gone

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Speaker 2: to the match.

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Speaker 3: I could see you, like, I don't know, rocking one

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Speaker 3: of those guard outfits out yeah you know, oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I've been there before. They they don't

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Speaker 3: I think you both would make good Buckingham guards too.

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Speaker 1: I figed enough, like where I've had television producers in

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Speaker 1: my air like, hey, Bud, like you need to put

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Speaker 2: Jill on the fidgeting, I'm just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm like with Duck on the pond. You know, on

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Speaker 1: the surface, everything looks calm, but underneath, it's.

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Speaker 2: Just picture him mess. He's on. He's on anytime you

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Speaker 2: like from the chest up, his legs are just kicking.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, no, nervous, all right, So let's dive into

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul gets traded to the Wizards. I'm sorry to

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Speaker 3: the Warriors, traded from Washington to Golden State. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you had that on your BINGO card, but

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Speaker 3: that is the reality here. And the first part of

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Speaker 3: it won't happen. If you think about all these NBA

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Speaker 3: trade rumors, we had Zion going somewhere, he stayed, but

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Speaker 3: for the time being, Paul George might be going somewhere.

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Speaker 2: He's stayed.

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Speaker 3: But all these rumors Chris Paul is gonna go to

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Speaker 3: an LA team. No, He's with the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 3: One of the rumors that we didn't hear about was

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Speaker 3: porzingis going to the Celtics, and that actually happened. As

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Speaker 3: far as Chris Paul goes, I think this is legacy stuff. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: this is the final chapter of his career and it's

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Speaker 3: cement how we think about him. But if he can

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Speaker 3: we've largely thought about his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with that. Think about who he's

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Speaker 2: teaming up with, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, two other shooting

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Speaker 2: NBA finals. The unfortunate reality is Chris Paul's coming off

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Speaker 2: of his worst season ever, where he averaged career lows

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Speaker 2: that Chris Paul left Los Angeles with all those years ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's he's a shell of a form of

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Speaker 2: his former self due to all the injuries. Those compile,

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Speaker 2: those adds up. He's thirty eight, which is ancient in

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Speaker 2: terms of professional athleticism. Uh, it is absolutely a legacy play,

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Speaker 2: and there's no question this benefits Chris Paul. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much it benefits the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't know. Because think of it

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Speaker 2: So if he doesn't perform well, he becomes an expensive

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wondering what Bob Myers is thinking right now.

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Speaker 2: That was my first got out at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, does he have like a crystal ball like?

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Speaker 1: don't know how this makes the Warriors better in terms

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Speaker 4: It gives them a little more stability in the back court.

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Speaker 1: They did have some issues figuring out their point guard

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Speaker 1: They were terrible on the road last year, one of

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Speaker 1: It just it seems almost like a desperate move. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's I don't think desperation ends

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Speaker 1: how this makes the Warriors better in terms of winning

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Speaker 3: Well, that's sort of where my head goes. Also is

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Speaker 3: if you compare Chris Paul going to the Warriors, it's

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Speaker 3: world's different than Kevin Durant when he joined the Warriors

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and think about that.

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Speaker 3: Whereas KD at the peak of his powers, that's not

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Speaker 3: the case with thirty eight year old Chris Paul. But

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Speaker 3: the other part of this is the Warriors aren't close

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Speaker 3: to the peak of their powers either, No, And so

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Speaker 3: that's why it's so dramatically different, where it's not just

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Speaker 3: We're not used to seeing that at all, And so

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Speaker 3: that's why it's so so much different. And he would

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Speaker 3: get a fraction of the pushback if he wins Big

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul that Kevin Durant got. Because you're thinking about

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Speaker 3: the Warriors, they were a whisker away from winning it

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Speaker 3: a much different situation here and now with the CP deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at this as an oddity that

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Speaker 2: just my work, you know, the first move for Mike

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Speaker 2: Dunlevy will see if it ends up being a net

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Speaker 2: positive or potentially the signs of a hollow. A class

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Speaker 2: of players who obviously have reigned over the NBA for

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Speaker 2: a long time and it's now time for the new

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Speaker 2: generation to move in. I know this. This franchise, in

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Speaker 2: terms of the way they're built currently is in their

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Speaker 2: death throws. Like obviously Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Clay Thompson

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Speaker 2: can't play forever and we all are aware of that.

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Speaker 2: But to add another aging piece, maybe maybe the desperation

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Speaker 2: of getting a ring for the first time in his

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Speaker 2: career will bring some life to this organization. You know,

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Speaker 2: but normally you rely on youth to give life to

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Speaker 2: an aging organization. You don't usually go to a near

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Speaker 2: forty year old to bring that level of like desperation

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Speaker 2: and push. Yeah, it's like a barbecue.

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Speaker 3: Instead of getting you know, like the nieces and nephews,

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Speaker 3: Let's get all the uncles in ants over here.

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Speaker 2: Let's get the grandfathers. This party needs some spunk, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the great grandfathers.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: But and the other side of this is Jordan Poole

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Speaker 1: just signed a four year, one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: the word of this. What can we do with the

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Speaker 1: current crop of players available, either via trade or free agency,

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Speaker 1: to turn what is an aging team that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: I think if let's say we don't do this trade

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Speaker 1: and Jordan pools back on the Warriors and they're figuring

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Speaker 1: it's Steph and it's Clay and it's Kevin Looney, are

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Speaker 2: And also I got another question to ask you, guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is this a little bit of Draymond can't

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Speaker 2: find a way to play with anybody else, starts to

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Speaker 4: Heard around the world. Now it pools out of town

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Speaker 4: the next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't just that, it was Durant too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, this Triumvirent. The only person who appears

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Speaker 2: to be challenged by outsiders coming in, whether it's Pool

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Speaker 2: in the first round or Kevin Durant in trade, is

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the same energy starter for the Warriors over these seasons.

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Speaker 2: The bully on the court is also the bully on

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Speaker 2: the practice court, and so anytime he's challenged, all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, he feels like, you know, maybe his namesake

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Speaker 2: is being is being dimmed as you know, the Kevin

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Speaker 2: Durant like glows a little brighter or dimmed as the

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Speaker 2: Jordan Poole like grows a little lighter. Like, how's it

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Speaker 2: gonna work with Chris Paul? My guess is not good?

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Speaker 1: Well, Paul and Kerr going out of the playoffs a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's such a weird fit.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I don't see.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's one of those I just had vibes of

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Speaker 4: Tell us the truth, Bob, Would you have done this movement?

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Speaker 3: Progressive dot com. Very interesting story in the sports slash

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Speaker 3: gambling world Sham Sharanya. Okay, so he is employed by

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Speaker 3: He tweeted sources Scoot Henderson is gaining serious momentum at

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Speaker 3: Of course, the Hornets didn't draft Scoot Henderson. They went

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Speaker 3: doesn't turn out to be the case, and then shockingly

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Speaker 2: Well, this line's fan.

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Speaker 3: Duel's pockets, right, Like, I just think it's one of

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Speaker 3: these things. There's a big difference. But go ed Rich,

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Speaker 3: you got something on this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was.

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Speaker 2: Gonna just say, like I I wish, I wish that

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Speaker 2: this didn't need to become a story, but it's just

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Speaker 2: many coincidences can there be? Right, Well, it's one of

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Speaker 3: I think there's a huge difference between this has happened

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Speaker 2: That's just not the way it goes.

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Speaker 3: But based on who you're affiliated with, I can understand

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Speaker 3: I don't think there is, but I can understand how

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Speaker 2: When you have a story like this, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: Shams did not do this willingly. He did not know

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Speaker 1: just doesn't get in. Like it's all based on information

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Speaker 3: We call it lying season for a reason, smoke screen season,

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Speaker 1: But to blame Shams for that though, he's just reporting

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Speaker 3: Is you texted the group Jared where it was Woaj's

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Speaker 2: So this is last year's draft, Woach tweeted.

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, that one was right, and Caero to Houston.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, it just got the most important pick

438
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: wrong in the draft, the first one right.

439
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: But this is what's going on here, Woj is not

440
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: employed by Fan Duel, Drafts, Kings whatever, right.

441
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: Correct, So he got it wrong.

442
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Shams is employed by FanDuel, And so it's just funny

443
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: to me how it turns into oh oh, Shams just

444
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: trying to line the pockets a fan tool. It's like

445
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: just last year WOJ had the order of number one

446
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: and number three flip flopped. He's not lining anyone's pockets

447
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: like this sort of stuff happen.

448
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but imagine, okay, imagine conflict of interest. Like

449
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: say I own a company and I employ a relative,

450
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: a nephew, and you know, while other other employees may

451
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: get the same treatment, if I do something special for

452
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Speaker 2: my nephew, it's gonna look like preferential treatment because everybody

453
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: forgets what I did for those other employees, but it's

454
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Speaker 2: highlighted because of nepotism, what I did for my nephew

455
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Speaker 2: or my relative.

456
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Speaker 1: You're wrong. It's it's optics.

457
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Speaker 2: It's optics. That's exactly right. Like it doesn't matter if

458
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm doing the right thing per the company guidelines or not.

459
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: It's when you have that familial relationship or when you

460
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: have this ancestual relationship between Shams and FanDuel and what

461
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: he's doing is going to have an effect on the

462
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: betting market way, whether you like it or not. Yeah,

463
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: it all of a sudden, it goes through that prism

464
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Speaker 2: of hey, does this look right? Maybe this is where

465
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Speaker 2: I pump the brake a little bit on information that

466
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Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred one hundred thousand percent on. Maybe

467
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Speaker 2: that's the time where I pump the brakes a little

468
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: bit because of what it could look like with the

469
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Speaker 2: conflict of interest.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that part of it.

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Speaker 1: I think the lesson here is not well, shams just

472
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Speaker 1: can't tweet anymore about the draft like that I think

473
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Speaker 1: is no dream.

474
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Speaker 2: No.

475
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that there needs to be but honestly

476
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Speaker 1: rich and this is this is what it comes down

477
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Speaker 1: to at the end of the day.

478
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Speaker 4: This is just journalistic principles.

479
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Speaker 1: Right. We get information as journalists all the time. Doesn't

480
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: mean we have to report everything right now. Some things

481
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: we do due diligence on, we do more research on.

482
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: Some things are purely speculatory, and I think there needs

483
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Speaker 1: to be a little bit more discretion. I think the

484
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Speaker 1: key there's two keywords here that come to mind with

485
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Speaker 1: this story. One is optics. Two is discretion. Optics in

486
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: the way that we view the story and in discretion.

487
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: From Shams's side, he needs more discretion when he's getting

488
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: some of these reports, and he needs to be a

489
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Speaker 1: little more I guess mindful of the effect of reporting it.

490
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: With great power comes great responsibility. Let's be honest, woes

491
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: in Shams could blow up a market in a second,

492
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like absolutely obliterate any market relating to

493
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Speaker 1: the draft with one click of the of the tweet button. Yeah.

494
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: And I think understanding that power and understanding the current

495
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: climate we're in with sports betting, hopefully over time they

496
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Speaker 1: will gain that perspective.

497
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Speaker 4: I know, Shams, I'm sure learned a lesson from this

498
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Speaker 4: well y you know, and.

499
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Speaker 1: I think hopefully that will translate into less of these

500
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Speaker 1: types of Yeah.

501
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Speaker 2: I don't know that it will.

502
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: I hope. So that's all I hope.

503
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: Put it this way, So Sham's next year, same scenario.

504
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: He's getting this information about the number two overall pick. Right,

505
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: He's saying, I'm thinking it, I'm hearing it could be

506
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: this guy and not this other guy. He's gonna think

507
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, all these people are gonna say the

508
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: same thing even louder this year. Yeah, I'm just trying

509
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: to speak it out.

510
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: Like, like, what's the upside, Like if I'm shams, what's

511
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: your reporter.

512
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: You're an insider, You've got inside information. This is what

513
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm hearing. That's what he always did. But now if

514
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: it turns out not to be, it turns out to

515
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: harm his reputation.

516
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: Right, It's just funny that the two biggest reporters on

517
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: the planet back to back year has got a high

518
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: profile pick completely well, and.

519
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: That can happen. And you know what, Honestly, nobody's really

520
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: batting an eye anymore about the Woge situation and really

521
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: weren't in the first place, because reporters and newsbreakers they

522
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: get things wrong all the time. But from the optics standpoint,

523
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: from a public relations standpoint, if I'm in their shoes

524
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: from this point moving forward, and I have a relationship

525
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: with a sports betting website or an app, or if

526
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: I have any outside interests that are covering my income

527
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: through sports betting whatsoever, I'm gonna be extra careful on

528
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: Draft night not to do things like this. And the

529
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: reason is very simple. It's because it just looks different

530
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: if you're a married guy and you're staying out every

531
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: night until three am, it looks a lot different than

532
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: when you're singing.

533
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 4: Late quote unquote right, honey late and every night you're

534
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 4: working late.

535
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, and and maybe you're you

536
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 2: are you are? I mean, as honest as a priest.

537
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter anymore because the way it looks, it's

538
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: just the way it looks, exactly. It's a perception reality thing, yep.

539
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: And some people perceive it to be the reality. Therefore

540
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: it just is. And at the end of the day,

541
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: what is he worried about it? He's worried about his income,

542
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: He's worried about a job. At the end of the day,

543
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: if you're a married man, what are you worried about?

544
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: Are you worried about your relationship? Be worried about your family?

545
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Like you gotta do what's best for yourself. And in

546
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: this situation, unfortunately for Shams, what was best is probably

547
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: never sending the tweets of the speculation this space world back.

548
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Never. My guess is we have regulatory things in

549
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: place down the road that prevents sponsorships cross pollinations like

550
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: we have now. I just don't think the industry is

551
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: there yet, we are still very much in the expansion phase.

552
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: We're starting to get some contraction in some area. Is

553
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: but it's it's strange because I just I don't see

554
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: how any like a reasonable person actually thinks Shams did

555
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: this purposely like.

556
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: That to me is insane.

557
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: It's insane.

558
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 10: Yeah.

559
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: But but but there's some optics there that I think

560
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: need to get worked out over time.

561
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: Well, you talked about contraction. That will not apply to

562
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 3: mister Isaac Loewendron. Only only expansion.

563
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: We want more. Yeah, exactly.

564
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: Such a flattering introduction as opposed to the previous topic

565
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: of discussion, speaking of optics, It doesn't seem to be

566
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: great optics when you literally have the word sham in

567
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: one's name.

568
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Oh go.

569
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Speaker 9: Fellas.

570
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 5: We begin in Major League Baseball, and we start with

571
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Speaker 5: happy days in Cincinnati.

572
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 9: The weekend comes the cycle.

573
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 11: Hums, here's the and there's a drive toward the right

574
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 11: center field gap that's down this well send India around

575
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 11: third day, la Cruz.

576
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: Going for third.

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00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 12: Here's the relay, not in time, an RBI triple for

578
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 12: Ellie Dela Cruz, and he has just hit.

579
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Speaker 1: For the cycle.

580
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 5: The call on WLW Ellie de la Cruz anything but

581
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Speaker 5: as Sham, at twenty one years old, he became the

582
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Speaker 5: youngest player to hit for the cycle in Major League

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Speaker 5: Baseball in fifty one years. As the Reds rallied from

584
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Speaker 5: a five to nothing deficit to best the Braves eleven

585
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Speaker 5: to ten. Cincinnati on a twelve game winning streak, its

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Speaker 5: longest in sixty six years. The Giants have won eleven

587
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Speaker 5: of twelve. Michael Conforto for RBI in their eight to

588
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Speaker 5: five win over the Arizona Diamondbacks. Mookie Betts hit his

589
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Speaker 5: eighteenth on run of the season in the dodgers three

590
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 5: to two victory over the Houston Astros. The San Diego

591
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: Padres hit three home runs and a thirteen to three

592
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: win over the Washington Nationals, and Colorado's Elias Diaz hit

593
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Speaker 5: a grand slam in the bottom of the eighth inning

594
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Speaker 5: to give them a seven to four victory over the Angels.

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00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 5: Despite show Hey Otani's twenty fifth home run of the

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Speaker 5: season and Mike Trout's sixteenth home run of the season

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Speaker 5: fellas all yours.

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Speaker 3: How about the Reds Man These numbers that I load

607
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Speaker 3: throws at us where the twelve game winning streak for

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Speaker 3: the Reds. It's their longest in sixty six years. And

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Speaker 3: then Ellie Dela Cruz hitting for the cycle last night

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Speaker 3: against the Braves. He's the youngest to hit for the

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Speaker 3: cycle in fifty one years. He's the first Red to

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Speaker 3: hit for the cycle in the last thirty four years.

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Speaker 3: All this stuff's going on in Cincinnati. Joey Vado comes

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Speaker 3: back from injury, he rejoins all these young guns and

615
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: a bunch of home Yeah, yeah, it's amazing what's going

616
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: on there. They are red hot, and we know the

617
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: winning streak's gonna fall, and they might hit a cold

618
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: spell in a little bit, but that Anel Central is

619
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Speaker 3: a cesspool.

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Speaker 2: And someone's got to win it.

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Speaker 3: And it might be Cincinnati, who started off seven and

622
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Speaker 3: fifteen this year.

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Speaker 2: It's a crazy turnaround. Yeah, they looked awful and now

624
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: it looks like the youth movement is working. And then,

625
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, that's a huge buoy for run support.

626
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: Getting Joey Vato back in the lineup after recovering from

627
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: that shoulder surgery. He had to be sent back for

628
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: a reab assignment because he didn't have range of motion.

629
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Speaker 2: So he's back in the lineup and he's doing Joey

630
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: Vado things, and so there's good vibes. There's Elie dela

631
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: Cruz who his slash lines is ridiculous and his future

632
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: looks bright. And then you know this Division. There are

633
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: a lot of Division games ahead. If you look at

634
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: at the Red schedule, Yeah, like they've got plenty of

635
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: games against the teams that are still ahead of them.

636
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: And so if if the Red stay hot, and even

637
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: if they they they cool off a little bit, but

638
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: they head into the trade deadline with momentum, they could

639
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: be buyers. They could add this could be a really

640
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: special year for Cincinnati. And it's weird to say that

641
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: because it's been a while.

642
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: Can I just say that this is all because of us?

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Speaker 1: Guys? Where did we do a show in January?

644
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: That's right earlier this year, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Great American Ballpark. I remember walking through the tunnel with you,

646
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: fine gentlemen. It was a very chilly day in Cincinnati,

647
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: walking underneath through the bowels of Great American Ballpark, get

648
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: up to the top there at the beautiful bed MGM sportsbook,

649
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: beautiful looking out.

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00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: We were, Man, that was kind of like the Town Cincinnati.

651
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: You've seen the movie The Town whether Yeah, they rob

652
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 3: Fenway Park. That's kind of like what we were doing.

653
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: Were walking around in the back crevices.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome getting scanned into the back security like

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Speaker 1: the VIP security entrance where they bring all the important people.

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Speaker 1: Not really, but it's okay, we'll just believe that. No,

657
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Speaker 1: this is a fantastic story. I don't know if the

658
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Speaker 1: pitching will hold up. I don't I hope it will

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Speaker 1: because I think they have a They have enough at

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Speaker 1: the top. They just brought up this kid, Andrew Abbot,

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Speaker 1: who's got a little got a little smoke to him.

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Speaker 1: He got Hunter Green, who I think has Ace type potential.

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Speaker 1: And Graham Ashcraft has kind of been all over the

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Speaker 1: map this year, and uh, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the pitching staff, Weaver and Williamson, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a rotation. I look to fade most

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Speaker 1: nights in terms of overs and you know your fees

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But their lineup is elite. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's absolutely elite. Dai Lya Cruz, I

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Speaker 1: think if it wasn't for Corbyn, Carroll just having an

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Speaker 1: insane MVP type season, I think Ellie day La Cruz

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Speaker 1: is the shoe in Rookie of the Year. But unfortunately

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Speaker 1: I think Carrol because he's gonna play the whole year.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, barring injury of course, and what what what

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Speaker 1: he's done I think is gonna win it. The kid

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Speaker 1: from Arizona. But this lineup top to bottom and now

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00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: you put Voda in there, and it gives them what

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Speaker 1: they didn't have, which was veteran presence, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Vodo's been been there forever and the youth plus Vodo,

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Speaker 1: it's exciting. Yeah, But pitching is what wins championships had been.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling that said that, that's what they don't have.

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Speaker 1: Over over over over everything. Yes, yes, great, over, fantastic

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Speaker 1: the over.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, their pitching is questionable and they are

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Speaker 3: mashing right over over like twenty one combined round last night, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was four to nothing like three batters into the game.

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Speaker 4: It was on Atlanta side too.

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Speaker 3: We got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American live in studio,

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next.

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Speaker 3: If you're looking for a sports story that needs a

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Speaker 3: do over, this would be one of them. It's Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in.

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Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday Live from the Tirack dot Com study.

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Speaker 3: So MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred he says he'd uh, he'd

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Speaker 3: like a do over regarding the Houston Astros cheating scandal

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Speaker 3: from nearly four years ago. He did this interview with

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Speaker 3: Time and he said, quote, I'm not sure that I

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Speaker 3: would have approached it with giving players immunity the question

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Speaker 3: mark I'm sorry end quote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the deal, guys.

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Speaker 3: If you automatically grant immunity to the players, you're just

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Speaker 3: bad at investigating.

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Speaker 1: You're just bad at it.

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00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: Think if any investigation work that way, where you're like, hey,

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Speaker 3: did you steal this car? Just tell me the truth.

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00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: You won't be punished. Yeah I stole it. Okay, Well

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00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: you're free to go. But I know at least you rascal,

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00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: you stole it, you racal. Yeah, that's what happened with

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Speaker 3: this cheating scandal.

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Speaker 2: That's so accurate. That was such a joke. But man,

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00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: like what what a perfect way to describe it, like literal, Really,

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00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: the main perpetrators are the people who got away with

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00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: the most like this, like the way it's supposed to work.

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Speaker 2: For anybody who doesn't know about detective work, I know

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Speaker 2: a little bit about it from stories I've heard from

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Speaker 2: one of my best friend's fathers. I grew up in

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Speaker 2: this household, practically eight meals at their house all the time.

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Speaker 2: His father was a third grade detective in Harlem. He

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: was on the homicide squad. So this guy he knew

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Speaker 2: how to investigate. They busted purps all the time. And

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Speaker 2: the way they would do it is you would find

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Speaker 2: the low level involvers in incidents, like the people who

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Speaker 2: saw things and maybe they had a rap sheet, so

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Speaker 2: you were able to grant them immunity for other things,

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Speaker 2: so you could get the big fits who were causing

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Speaker 2: the real problems. Like that's how it works. So you

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Speaker 2: find people who are almost in a more of an

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Speaker 2: accomplice role, not the main perpetrators. It's like, yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 2: so you're the one who actually shot the guy, and

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Speaker 2: we're like we're gonna let you off.

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Speaker 1: Like that's what this was. It was ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, listen, yeah, they they made some mistakes,

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Speaker 2: there's no question about it. It's like, no, no, they

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Speaker 2: didn't make mistakes. They were literally the people who were

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Speaker 2: wearing the electronics and banging the trash cans and you

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Speaker 2: told them it's okay as long as we know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: I think Rob Manford should have watched the wire before

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Speaker 1: before conducting this investigation, or the Sopranos or something. I yeah,

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Speaker 1: hindsight's twenty twenty. I mean, listen, we've had three years now.

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Speaker 1: Rob's had a lot of other things to deal with then,

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Speaker 1: but he's also had a lot of time probably to

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Speaker 1: reflect and see how baseball culture has changed a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Over the last three years since all of this went down.

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Speaker 1: And to be fair though, I mean, Ken Rosenthal put

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Speaker 1: out a really good piece back in it was like

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen about all of this, and he had people

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Speaker 1: on the record from it, and that's where the investigation

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Speaker 1: kind of started. But then it branched out into interviewing players,

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Speaker 1: and I guess Rob didn't feel like they had enough

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Speaker 1: information based off of the pre you know, interviews to

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Speaker 1: really make any definitive claims, and they just wanted to

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Speaker 1: get information. I think in hindsight, you give him unity

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Speaker 1: to like the clubhouse personnel and right, the you know,

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Speaker 1: the guy that that that buys the team meals after

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Speaker 1: the game. You know, he had everything. He knows everything

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Speaker 1: the you know, the club out the roadies as they

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Speaker 1: call him, you know, the clubhouse personnel, guys, the attendees,

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Speaker 1: they're the ones that know everything. They have the players' names,

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Speaker 1: their numbers, they know what food they like. They have

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Speaker 1: all of it. So, yeah, hindsight's twenty twenty though, right,

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Speaker 1: I would have made a bunch of bets differently too,

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Speaker 1: if I could go back in time and change.

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Speaker 3: If I could turn back that one of those Definitely,

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Speaker 3: this is an honest question because Rob Manfred said that

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Speaker 3: he was worried that the punishment wouldn't stick.

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Speaker 2: Right, the players is asociation would fight back. So think

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 3: Is it better to have tried to punish the players

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Speaker 3: and it failed, where he would look weak and powerless

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Speaker 3: and all this stuff, or to have not tried to

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Speaker 3: punish them at all. I think it's the former. I

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Speaker 3: think it's you try. It would be better to try

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Speaker 3: to punish them. Yeah, but at least you try swing.

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Speaker 3: That's way better than not swinging at all.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: It's the three to two curve that you didn't swing

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Speaker 2: at exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's wayder Carlos beltrumk Andy Chavez thought he won the

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Speaker 1: game right there?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, all right, coming up next. One player's

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Speaker 3: reputation is way better than the other, should it be.

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Speaker 3: Objects and mirror are closer than they appear. We will

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Speaker 3: dive into that with two players and their reputations here. Momentarily,

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Speaker 2: He might not agree with this. But I always want

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Speaker 2: your honest opinions here.

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00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: So the Grizzlies they have traded for Marcus Smart, former

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00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Celtics card, they have kicked Dylan Brooks to the curb.

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Speaker 3: And it's just interesting to me how the talking points

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Speaker 3: turn into oh uh, Dylan Brooks, you know that guy's

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Speaker 3: hot head, immature, you know, YadA YadA, and then Marcus Smart.

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00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: Oh this guy leadership, you know, all right, like team

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Speaker 3: guy driven. I hear all these things, and look, some

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: of that is true with Marcus Smart. He's a great competitor,

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00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: seems to be a good locker room guy sort of deal.

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00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: But you ever look in your side mirror and it

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00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: says objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Marcus

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00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: Smart is way closer to Dylan Brooks. Then it's being

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Speaker 3: talked about at all. Like if you look at just

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Speaker 3: the hot head breakdown Dylan Brooks last year, if we're

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Speaker 3: looking at technical files, he had eighteen, Marcus Smart had eleven.

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00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: Previous season, Dylan Brooks thirteen, Marcus Smart eight. Marcus Smart

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Speaker 3: has been known to go after officials and be a

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Speaker 3: little bit loco from time to time. He hustles, He's

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Speaker 3: a hard worker, all of it. So is Dylan Brooks.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks is a very good defender. I know Marcus

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Speaker 3: Smart was the defensive.

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Speaker 2: Player of the year.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at scoring, if you look at this,

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Speaker 3: we'll just do a very fast year by year. Okay,

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Speaker 3: last four years, one of these guys averaged thirteen, thirteen, twelve,

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Speaker 3: and eleven. The other guy averaged sixteen, seven teen, eighteen,

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Speaker 3: and fourteen. The guy with the bigger numbers, Dylan Brooks.

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00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: By no means am I saying the grizzly screwed up

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00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks should still be there. They shouldn't have Marcus Smart.

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Speaker 3: What I am saying is, don't give me this. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks is immature. This guy, you can't trust him

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Speaker 3: getting him out of here. Let's bring in Marcus Smart,

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Speaker 3: who is fiery leader, team guy. Like, those guys are

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00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: so much closer together than they are far apart.

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with the move, but don't just be lambasting

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Speaker 3: one guy and putting the other guy in a pedestal

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Speaker 3: because they are much much closer than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I I'll only disagree or pushback from this standpoint.

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00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks stayed too long at the party, and Marcus

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Speaker 2: Smart leaves fans behind who are baffled with the decision

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Speaker 2: to bring in Chris tops porzingis yeah. I mean he

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Speaker 2: is beloved in the city of Boston. He is the

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00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: bridge between the kg Ray Allen, Paul Piercearra and this

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00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: new window of winning that the Boston Celtics have. Like

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00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: he was the bridge, Like you know, he backed up

843
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 2: a lot of the point guards, you know, Scary Terry

844
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: and that whole crew on his way to becoming the

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00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: guy and then the hardened soul of this revival. I

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00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: mean he is that that spark plug, that energy generator

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00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: in a positive way. Dylan Brooks is a detractor. He's

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Speaker 2: the type of guy who you know he's writing checks

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Speaker 2: his mouth. His mouth is writing checks that the team

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Speaker 2: can't cash. And when you have a guy like that

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00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: who appears to again over state is welcome, stay too

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00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: long at the party, whatever cliche you want to use,

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00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: versus a guy who literally you could plug him in

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Speaker 2: and the energy and the leadership that he brings can

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00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: potentially guide Jah into a better I don't know, a

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00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: better decision making time in his career. I would hope.

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00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: You know, this guy who's been around close to a

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00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: decade in the league maybe can take Jonder his wing

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00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: and say, hey, listen, this is kind of how it's done.

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00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: Man.

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00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: Like, you got to avoid the pitfalls and the trappings,

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00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: and you got to concentrate on what's important. And there

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00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: is nothing. If you know anybody who knows Marcus Smart,

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00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: there is nothing more important to Marcus Smart than playing

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00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: winning basketball. That guy lives it and breathes it. Dylan Brooks,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look, yeah, he's a talented player,

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Speaker 2: There's no question about it. He's a very talented player.

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Speaker 2: But he's a little bit of a gas bag. And

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Speaker 2: I think I think the Memphis brass got tired of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's let's use one word to some

871
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: up what Rich has said, which a spot on its maturity,

872
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: And I think I don't want to say that Marcus

873
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: Smart is this like you know, Tibetan monk just sitting

874
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: there with his master.

875
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: There's there's definitely some volatility there too.

876
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: But let's go back and examine who they were to

877
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: start their careers. Marcus Smart's a top ten pick by

878
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the Celtics, had a ton of ton of you know,

879
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: prestige coming in was a part of their glow up,

880
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I would say in Boston when they were getting Jalen

881
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: Brown and constructing that team with Jason Tatum and becoming

882
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, Eastern Conference champions and you know, a few

883
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: breaths away from from the finals. Whereas Dylan Brooks is

884
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: the forty fifth overall pick and I don't knock anyone

885
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: in the second round, but when you come into a

886
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: franchise as the forty fifth overall pick compared to when

887
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: you come in as a top ten pick, a lottery pick,

888
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: and you're part of a championship caliber team, there's a

889
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: certain level of maturity that goes along with that journey,

890
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I think, Whereas Dylan Brooks hasn't experienced that yet. He's

891
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: a little younger, and again, the expectations weren't there, and

892
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: he kind of bumbled his way through the postseason this year.

893
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: It was it was ugly. It was an ugly look

894
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: for how the Lakers series ended and just what he

895
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: said about Lebron and that everything went salid and it's

896
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: really tough to recover from that mentally, and I think

897
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: the locker room probably lost a little respect for him,

898
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: and I think this was a necessary change. Now you

899
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: bring in Marcus Smart, who again I think, isn't like

900
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: I said this crazy uh you know, you know, calm presence.

901
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: But what he is a little more mature, has a

902
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: little more expectation that comes with his his tenure, and

903
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I think net positive.

904
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: I do think for Memphis. Oh absolutely, that's the thing.

905
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: Let's get a couple of things straight. Ye, Marcus Smart

906
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: is the better player, and Marcus Smart hasn't come close

907
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: to gigantically stepping in it the way Dylan Brooks did,

908
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: hasn't crossed it yet. Yeah, Lebron's old. You know, I

909
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: poke Bears and then they're losing by forty in a

910
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: closeout game. You know, like Marcus Smart doesn't have that

911
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: on his resume. But here's what's going on. Teams effect

912
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: in the visual reputations. That's the way it works.

913
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

914
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: The Grizzlies are an immature team. The Celtics collectively much

915
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 3: more mature. Just look at this Memphis led by John Morant. Okay,

916
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: Celtics led by Tatum and Brown like light World's difference

917
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: in terms of maturity.

918
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: Well well, well but hang on, hang on, you say,

919
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: Tatum and Brown Mark. It's Smart. I mean, he is

920
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: the leader, and so I'm not saying that he's gonna

921
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: walk into Memphis and overtake Jean Moran Moran's leadership role there,

922
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: but he was a huge, huge voice in that locker room.

923
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: And so now Boston's missing that. Now they may trade

924
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: their soul to win a championship, like Marcus Smart may

925
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: represent like parting ways with what has worked and what

926
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: has been their DNA for the past couple of years,

927
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 2: and they may earn them a championship, but it's not

928
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: gonna be as sweet or as special for the fans

929
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 2: or maybe even for the organization because Brad Stevens loves

930
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: that guy.

931
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a leader. I wouldn't tell you Marcus

932
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: Smart isn't. He's a better leader than Dylon Brooks.

933
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Is no question.

934
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: But the point is, your immaturity stands out more when

935
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: you're surrounded by an immature superstar. That's something that Marcus

936
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: Smart has not had in Boston. That's something that Dylan

937
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: Brooks has had in Memphis. Where let's play the flip

938
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: flop game. If Marcus Smart has been in Memphis the

939
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: last six years and Dylan Brooks has been in Boston

940
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 3: the last six years. Marcus Smart looks way more immature

941
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: all of a sudden than he has in Boston when

942
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: he's been surrounded by more maturity, more stability.

943
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 2: That does matter.

944
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Where teams do impact individual reputations, there is a layer

945
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 3: of that at play right here.

946
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of that.

947
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

948
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to find like a comparison that I love,

949
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: and I can't think of one off the top of

950
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: my head. It's a little bit of like Odell Beckham junior,

951
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: how he looked with like the cle Evelynn Brown's and

952
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield back versus the Los Angeles Rams with Matthew

953
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: Stafford and that organization and the you know, the culture.

954
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: You know, Ah, this guy is Dad's tweeting out videos

955
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: where he's not open and then all of a sudden

956
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: he looks man Stafford's throwing touchdown passes left and right,

957
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 3: completely different.

958
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, like sometimes a change of scenery

959
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: also helps a guy and helps a team when when

960
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: you when you take like so for example, Dylan Brooks

961
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: may have more success outside of Memphis. Maybe maybe maybe

962
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 2: he was feeding into the culture, but maybe the culture

963
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: was was was a part of the problem for him.

964
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: And then maybe the added value of bringing in Marcus

965
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: Smart for Memphis is is a little bit of a

966
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: higher emotional intelligence for that whole locker room. Bringing in

967
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: a guy like Smart, who's been there, who's done it,

968
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: who's seen the way an organization is supposed to run,

969
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: and maybe even help Memphis with some of that, because

970
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: there are times when players walk into new organizations and

971
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: if they're big enough names, if they carry enough sway,

972
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: they can actually help change the culture from the top down.

973
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking about encourage general managers and front office people

974
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: to be better, to do better. It's not just about

975
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: at the locker room level. So yeah, I'm very interested

976
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: to see what happens in Memphis. I mean, this story

977
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: swirling around John Morant, Willie Orwoni be the face of

978
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: the NBA's future. That's what this is to me. That's

979
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 2: what this signifies to me. It's less about the one

980
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: for one Brooks for Smart, and it's more about how

981
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: can we surround this guy with better decision makers, people

982
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: are more stable, so that he himself, John Morant can

983
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: learn how to be a better pro.

984
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest takeaway for me here, and

985
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: maybe this is a hot take, I actually think the

986
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Grizzlies are in a better position to win a championship

987
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: now than the Celtics. I honestly do. I don't think

988
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: Kristap's Worzingis is the missing piece for Boston. I just don't.

989
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: I've watched this guy play since he was drafted by

990
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: my Knicks. I never saw that intensity. Right, What did

991
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Boston need in Game seven against the Heat. It wasn't talent.

992
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, overall smoothness from the front court.

993
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: It was toughness, it was grittiness. It was they just

994
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: fell flat, and they fell behind three to oh to

995
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: a Heat team that just had no business being up

996
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: three oh. We saw what a well conditioned, well oiled

997
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: machine the Denver Nuggets did to the Miami Heat in

998
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. Do we view the Boston Celtics in

999
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: that regard now, when you trade out Marcus Smart and

1000
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: you put in Kristaps Porzingis, I don't. It's Porzingis's fourth

1001
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: team in six years. So that's the next side of

1002
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: this is I actually think if Memphis, if John Morant

1003
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: does take that step maturity wise, we know the talent's

1004
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: there physically, it's all about his maturity level, and Marcus

1005
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: Smart assists with that and he provides this grittiness. The

1006
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: talent with Memphis is already there. They just need the maturity.

1007
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: Boston already had the talent. You add Kristaps Porzingis, it's

1008
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: more talent, But are you adding any grittiness? Are you

1009
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: adding any toughness? Are you adding the ability to dig

1010
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: in in a game seven at home against an underman

1011
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: heat team and pull out a win. I don't know

1012
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: if Kristaps Porzingis is the yes to that question.

1013
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 3: Well, I just think that you know, we're talking about

1014
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: Marcus Smart like he's Damian Lillard from a maturity standboint,

1015
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: where it's all we need a guy that's stable.

1016
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: That's not Marcus Smart.

1017
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: He's gritty, he's a hustler, but he's immature, Like like,

1018
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying is, let's not act like he's

1019
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: the polar opposite of Dylan Brooks.

1020
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gidding.

1021
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree with that.

1022
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: I agree.

1023
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: I think he adds a little bit more maturity than

1024
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks, but it's not night and day. But again,

1025
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: I still think the crux of the story is the

1026
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: other side of the equation and what Boston loss compared

1027
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: to what they gained. I think net positive for Memphis.

1028
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: I would say net negative for Boston, and that's just

1029
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be wrong, and you know, Kristaps Porzingis. Maybe

1030
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm jaded from his years with the Knicks and he

1031
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: comes in and it's the unicorn. But I think Memphis

1032
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: got better and I think Boston didn't. Maybe they stayed

1033
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: the same, But I just I don't see the Porzingis

1034
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: being dismissing piece for the Celtics and all of a

1035
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 1: sudden if they couldn't win a title with Marcus Smart,

1036
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if Porzingis is the answer.

1037
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: I just think that's an offense defense thing, where if

1038
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: you look at the two players, Marcus Smart gigantic check

1039
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: mark in the defensive category compared to score Zingis, they

1040
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: don't call him defensive.

1041
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: You know, you know, when you're you're you're signing a

1042
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: big man or trading for a big man who doesn't defend.

1043
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: When the nicest thing you could say about his defense

1044
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: his talk about his wingspan. You know, wait, you don't

1045
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: watch his arms out real far. But imagine you put

1046
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: this seven six wings fan, It's like, yeah, okay, I'm

1047
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: reading between the lines here. You're saying it's basically is

1048
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: a turnstyle.

1049
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: God, but this Celtics team.

1050
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: Now is constructed in a best of seven against the Nuggets.

1051
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: In your mind, does it go any differently than what

1052
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: just happened to the heat with Porzingis in the middle there.

1053
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: I will say, market smart. Well, I just heralded his

1054
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: toughness and his leadership and all the things the intangibles

1055
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: that you you know, that that he brings with you know,

1056
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: some good scoring and some great defense like you pointed out,

1057
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: and and also he does he does make some confounding

1058
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: decisions also, like this is the guy who will throw

1059
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: passes out of bounds and have a whole bunch of

1060
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: turnovers and shoot the Celtics out of game sometimes too.

1061
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: Porzingis is rolling off of the best year of his career,

1062
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: and he looks truly like he's matured, you know, So

1063
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: the Porzingis of the New York Knicks days is not

1064
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: the Porzingis of today. Now, can he stay healthy? Is

1065
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: a little bit older, he's coming off of that, not

1066
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: coming off of but has had that knee injury that

1067
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: took forever to recover from. He's a big man, and

1068
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: we know what happens when you have some of those

1069
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: foundational injuries. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But what

1070
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: it does give them the opportunity to do is space

1071
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: the floor using a big man who can score in

1072
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 2: the middle. Very similar to how the Nuggets play offense

1073
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: in Denver. And I feel like that's very in right

1074
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: now in the NBA Joel Embiid in Philadelphia and what

1075
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: we've seen with the Nuggets with Jokich, it feels like

1076
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: everybody's looking for their big man who can score offensively

1077
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: and sort of circulate their offense around a skillful big man.

1078
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: You know what we need?

1079
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 3: We need a segment with former Warriors GM Bob Meyer

1080
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 3: hed we do called what the hell are they doing?

1081
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: And it's Bob Meyer's unfiltered Wait, what the hell are

1082
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: the Warriors? Chris Paul, what what the hell are they doing?

1083
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Speaker 3: Porzingis to boss that I would love to hear something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: That'd be like a truth or Dare segment with Bob Myers.

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Speaker 3: As Bob Byers unfiltered that will be must see or

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Speaker 3: must listen to right there. All right, We've got Rich Ornberger,

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Speaker 3: Penn State All American gracing gracing the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: staff with his presence. Over there in Sherman Oaks, We've

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst gracing his presence with

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Speaker 3: Jackpot the dog right sleeping right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian out on the balcony.

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: He's confiscated my beanback chair out on the balcony, and

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Speaker 1: that's a back chair.

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00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: Now, I'm Brian gracing my presence with my girlfriend who's

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Speaker 3: kind of a sleep.

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Speaker 4: I saw you at Chili for the first time this week,

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Speaker 4: but how is that.

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Speaker 2: I'll have to tell you about that around Oh, I

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: can't wait. I've got some thoughts for you, all right,

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: come it up next.

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00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: The NFL clarifies the policy, and some of it's pretty

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00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: freaking funny. We'll get into that. It is Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in.

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00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: were clarifying their gambling policy this week, and I love

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Speaker 3: how they broke it down in bullet point fashion. First though,

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: this is NFL executive Jeff Miller. He was a guest

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00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: on Good Morning Football and he was talking about this

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: gambling policy that's been clarified.

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: Here here's a little bit from that.

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 10: If you could boil down the two things that we

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00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 10: would ask people to remember, whether it's.

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Be coaches, players, whomever.

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Speaker 1: One, don't bet on the NFL.

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 10: Don't bet a dollar, don't make a prop bet, don't

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00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 10: bet on the draft, forget it, just don't do it.

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00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 10: And the second rule would be don't bet when you're

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Speaker 10: at work. Okay, and that work includes traveling for work.

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Speaker 2: Okay, pretty easy to follow.

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Speaker 1: I like that. But forget it, forget it, don't gamble,

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00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: and forget it.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it.

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Speaker 3: And the bullet points so the two that he laid out,

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 3: don't bet on the NFL and don't bet at the

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Speaker 3: team facility.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: And so there's more detail on rule number one.

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Speaker 3: I tell it sized don't bet on the NFL, and

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Speaker 3: I just love this, So it reads, don't ever bet

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Speaker 3: on any NFL game, not even a dollar. Your team's games,

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: another team's games, outcome points scored, parlay prop future bets

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Speaker 3: on NFL includes all NFL events such as NFL Draft, Combine,

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00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, NFL flag events, NFL honors, if there's anything

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Speaker 3: connected to the NFL as a player, don't do it.

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00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: And the other part of this more detail on rule

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: number two. Don't gamble at work, including from your phone.

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00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: Don't bet on anything when at your team's facility or

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00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 3: stadium incl the parking lot on a team, road, team, plane, bus, car, team, hotel,

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01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: on any other team business. In summary, don't bet on

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Speaker 3: anything while at work.

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: So, look, I'm raising an eight year old and a

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01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: five year old and we have no idea how this

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01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 2: is going. So who knows, Maybe in ten years I'll

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: have a couple of psychopaths on my hands. But I

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01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: think I'm on all right, dad, And I think one

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01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I've had success with these young

1154
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: kids is because I try to make things as simple

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: as possible. Like I don't give confusing advice or instructions.

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like, hey, try hard, like you

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01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, there's no like, well unless

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01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: it's a losing battle, which in that case maybe the

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01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: conservation of energy will actually benefit you into the future.

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01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: Kids like, no, no, no, try hard, Just try hard.

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01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good life. Lesson, let's try hard. Like

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Speaker 2: there's six bullet points. I'm reading these that the NFL

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01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: has sent out and will probably prominently display in every

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Speaker 2: single one of these thirty two facilities. But you are

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Speaker 2: still dealing with kids at the NFL level. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's a young men, and I understand that they can

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Speaker 2: go fight in wars, and many of them are old

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Speaker 2: enough to drink, and they all can operate motor vehicles

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah. But the human brain

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: is not done developing at twenty two years of age.

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01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: It's not done developing at twenty one years of age,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot still to learn it. And we

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Speaker 2: talk all the time about the immaturity of young athletes,

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Speaker 2: even professionals. So make this more simple. We talked about this,

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Speaker 2: and I know you guys push back on this idea,

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Speaker 2: but if it were up to me, if I were

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Speaker 2: king for a day, I would make this as simple

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Speaker 2: as this. Two rules, guys, you cannot bet against your

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Speaker 2: own team, and you cannot bet on props other than

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Speaker 2: that own nuts.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're crazy. Wow, it's easier to digest, but you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I Well, the Panora's box will be opened.

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Speaker 1: If we are looking for clicks and traction and engagement.

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Speaker 1: That is that will do it right there. I'll read

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Speaker 1: the six rules. Guys, consider me the Moses the ten

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Speaker 1: commandments here of betting the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And chances are you going to forget four of these?

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Speaker 1: Probably? Yeah, your FSR betting analyst. I feel it is

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Speaker 1: my job, my duty to be thirty Yeah, sure, yeah. One,

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Speaker 1: don't bet on the NFL. That seems easy enough, right,

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: we got that. Two don't bet at the team facility

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01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: while traveling on a road gamer staying at a team hotel.

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01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: Same thing. So if you're in the team hotel, basically

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Speaker 1: the team facility, that makes sense to you're at work,

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Speaker 1: you're on a road trip on a work trip. Three,

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Speaker 1: don't have someone bet for you. That has been a

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Speaker 1: tricky one, because that's kind of how a couple of

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Speaker 1: these guys got caught. Four. This one should be self explanatory.

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Speaker 1: Don't share team inside information. You shouldn't do that anyways.

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01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: You don't want what your playbook is getting out. That's

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna hurt your team, that's gonna hurt your chances of winning.

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: Don't enter a sportsbook during the NFL playing season. Okay,

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: now we're getting into some gray area here, Like I

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01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 1: can't even go to the bathroom, Like I can't even

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Speaker 1: like walk inside the sportsbook, get a burger at the

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Speaker 1: bar like that. That to me is like, all right, well,

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01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 1: now we're kind of getting into the interesting territory. Six

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Speaker 1: don't play daily fantasy football. That kind of feels like one.

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Speaker 1: Don't bet on the NFL. I think if I had

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Speaker 1: to grade those six rules again, I think number one

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Speaker 1: is blatantly obvious. Number two fairly obvious. Number three don't

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Speaker 1: have someone bet for you. I think that's where the

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Speaker 1: gray area starts, the inside information obvious. That don't edit

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Speaker 1: a sportsbooks thing. I don't know. That's can't you just

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Speaker 1: walk into the sports book? Wait, you're going to a

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Speaker 1: beer at the bar, And I don't know. That seems

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Speaker 1: a little a little over the top. But the and

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Speaker 1: then daily fantasy football is kind of an offshoot of

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. But I feel like the

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Speaker 1: rules are pretty fair and pretty self explanatory, except for

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Speaker 1: that entering of a physical sportsbook thing, which is a

1222
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Speaker 1: little strange. But besides that, I I think I co

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Speaker 1: sign here.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's way too wordy. I think it

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Speaker 3: comes back to what Richard, too many rules, You think

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Speaker 3: you wait to make it simpler.

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Speaker 2: If it's yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: If it's don't bet on the NFL and don't bet

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Speaker 3: at work, period, hard stop, you've got a much better

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Speaker 3: chance of people at least understanding where the line is.

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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, guys, I really don't understand

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01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: that don't bet at work thing. If I can just

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Speaker 3: cross the street as an NFL player and different, why

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Speaker 3: is that such a big thing.

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Speaker 1: When I used to live in New York and I

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Speaker 1: had to drive to New Jersey, which does take a

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Speaker 1: few minutes in traffic, but in terms of the actual distance,

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Speaker 1: it's like a quarter of a mile to get across

1240
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: the GW Bridge or half a mile, and then I

1241
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: could bet in New Jersey, like you know, I would

1242
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Speaker 1: drive every week. I just don't understand.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand what they're worried about, right, Like Jamison

1244
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: Williams of the Lions. He was betting on college games,

1245
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: but he was betting on those at the team facility.

1246
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 3: I just so, what if you're allowed to bet on

1247
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: college games. I don't understand why that's a thing. Hey,

1248
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: your job, you might have rules like that. Hey you

1249
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 3: can't smoke here on Okay, fine.

1250
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: But maybe that's team by team right Like Belichick probably

1251
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't want you doing that, but maybe some other more

1252
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: player friendly coaches wouldn't care, right, And you know what.

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Speaker 2: Team by team. I actually think if you wanted to

1254
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: add to some some or or I guess add some rules.

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Speaker 2: I just hate rules that you can argue with, like,

1256
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: you know, going back to the commandments like you mentioned,

1257
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: like thou shalt not kill, Like that's a pretty good one,

1258
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: pretty obvious.

1259
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Speaker 1: The NFL, the.

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Speaker 2: One you were disagreeing with. It's just kind of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's sort of seems easy to understand. Not

1262
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: a lot of disagreement here, you know, Like but when

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Speaker 2: you go, don't bet on the NFL, Like as simple

1264
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: as that one is, it's like at all, like even

1265
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: if I'm betting for my team to win, like at

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Speaker 2: all at all, Like this even if I'm putting in

1267
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: a futures bet like you know, and I'm doing like

1268
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I'm I'm gonna give all the money

1269
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: to charity if my team wins the super Bowl and

1270
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: I put one hundred thousand dollars on the bet, like

1271
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Speaker 2: I don't know, like yeah, and I'm again I'm making

1272
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: up numbers. But like again, this is this is one

1273
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: of those things where if I can argue with a

1274
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: rule and like put up a good argument against a rule,

1275
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: then is it really necessary? And all of these rules,

1276
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 2: every last one of these rules, I can put up

1277
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: a good argument against them, and so I just don't

1278
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: the information. How could you argue argue? I mean that

1279
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: one's kind of that one's kind of stupid. I mean

1280
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: like that that that that's in that's that one is

1281
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: like don't give away trade secrets doesn't even need to

1282
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: be a rule. I almost strike that one from the list.

1283
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 2: That is the dumbest thing like to have to put like, hey, gang,

1284
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: don't tell people what you're doing, you know, the secret stuff,

1285
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, like the books they're giving us that'd say

1286
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: top secret, don't share that with everyone else? Like that,

1287
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: that's you're just insulting people's intelligence at this point. I

1288
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: don't know, man.

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01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 4: I hear an XFL player that leaked the playbook.

1290
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Speaker 1: I heard a story about that.

1291
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh, this has happened a couple of times.

1292
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, And I'm sure Rich you probably have some

1293
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: some funny, some shady stories behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, I will tell you this that there is

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Speaker 2: if you ain't cheating, If you ain't cheating.

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Speaker 4: That's the Belichick way, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's It's just wild.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: I still I keep going back to I don't understand that,

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: don't bet on at work thing and real fast the

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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: little bow on this. I thought there was a really

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: good column written by Jim Trotter. He's at the Athletic

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01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: and I the the title. I'm like, what what does

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: he go It just read if NFL wants to protect

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 3: the game, it should have a zero tolerance for gambling.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what does he get? Like, if you get.

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: Popped for gambling, you're gone or is it? But what

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: he was going with made a lot of sense. He

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: said coaches and staff are prohibited from betting on any

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Speaker 3: sport at any time.

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Speaker 1: You just can't do it.

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01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: But somehow with the players it's you can do it,

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 3: but as long as it's here, or it's on this

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01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,520
Speaker 3: or and then that, it's convoluted and hard to understand.

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Speaker 3: He's basically saying, make it just like coaches and staff.

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 3: If you're really against it, just say no gambling. That's

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 3: pretty easy to understand.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem, and this is always the problem

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Speaker 2: with rules being set by the ownership side. This is

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Speaker 2: a union, and it's that's right.

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Speaker 3: And that was his larger point was the players Association

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01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 3: is going to push back. Yeah, so this is the

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: best they have for now.

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Speaker 2: Right, And and look, the coaches, they're pawns of the ownership.

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: Like that's the reason why none of the money that

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01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 2: they spend on coaches goes against the salary recap. They

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 2: don't have any restrictions on really the rules they set

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Speaker 2: for their their coaches because they have no they haven't

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01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: been able to bargain for their rights, right, you know,

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01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,879
Speaker 2: they are pawns of the NFL structure. Whereas the players

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01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: they can fight the line, they can move the line

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Speaker 2: in their favor. And frankly, I think it's detestable from

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Speaker 2: a player's standpoint. Through the per view of a former player,

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: and once a current player that the NFL can reap

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: the benefits and the billions from the gambling embedding space,

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: whereas players can't even walk into a sports book, so

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01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 2: I can't take a promotional video or promotional picture in

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: a sports book so that I can be paid by

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: one of these advertisers who spending huge dollars with the NFL.

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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: Screw you it is, you know what it is.

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 3: It's a little bit like a blast from the past,

1342
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: the pre nil days, yep, where the NCAA's like, we're

1343
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: just gonna take all of the cash and you guys

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01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 3: know right, Like, like.

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Speaker 1: Walking into a sports book makes no sense to me.

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01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: These sports books are like bars. They're like restaurants. Yeah,

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01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: that one, that one does not pass the smell test.

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: The inside information makes sense. Don't have someone bet for

1349
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: you makes sense because I don't think we should be,

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, laundering our wagers through other people. Walking into

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: a sports book, that's just like your thing.

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01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: It's like I just had to go to the bathroom,

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01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: man like.

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: But like you also, the sports books are in the arenas,

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: they are in the stadiums that they are playing in.

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Reds and the Braves collect we were just there,

1357
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: walked into a sports book.

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Speaker 1: Joey gets lost in the mezzanine. If Great American Ballpark

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01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: walks into sportsbook, suspend it.

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Speaker 2: None by it's all so silly. Well, I look, not

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: all of it. Like there's obviously you need to have

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01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: some guards around this. But but the fact that they

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: have six rules, and say four of them are convoluted.

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: Four of them you can pose great arguments against and

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01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 2: actually have like like a strong ability to debate whether

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: or not the rule is actually necessary or if that

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01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: rule needs sub sections to explain the rule better. Those

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01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: are bad rules. Then I need to make this simpler.

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01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: The only rule, the only rule we have on this

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Speaker 2: show is more Isaac Lowing.

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Speaker 3: Tron's easy to follow bell and we got more from

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Speaker 3: I Loo right here, right now.

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 9: You guys gave me a great idea.

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 2: Work with me on this.

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01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 5: Make the gambling policy subject to instant replay.

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 4: Right, It's got to take five years to figure it out.

1377
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 5: That Jamison Williams is challenging the ruling on the field

1378
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 5: that he had both feet inside the facility.

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: That's right, They'll still be the wrong.

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01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: Here's the jurisdiction of the second foot end the toe.

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01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: It's legal. The toe is on the sidewalk foot in

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01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: the corridor that is leading to the sports book.

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01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 4: And like buzzers go off.

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01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 5: The gambling policy, the personal conduct policy, make it all

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01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 5: subject to it. That would take the NFL to a

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01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 5: whole new level of popularity. The Cincinnati Reds have been

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01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 5: taken to a whole new level of popularity because of

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 5: their exploits as a team and the individual exploits of

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01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 5: twenty one year old rookie sensation Ellie de la Cruz.

1390
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 5: Here he was in action last night against the Atlanta Braves.

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 11: Here's the two two, and there's a drive toward the

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01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 11: right center field gap that's down. This will send India

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 11: around third Dayla Cruz going for third.

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Speaker 1: Here's the relay not in time.

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01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 12: An RBI triple for Ellie Dla Cruz, and he has

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Speaker 12: just hit.

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Speaker 5: For the cycle, youngest May League player in fifty one

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Speaker 5: years to hit four the cycle of the call on

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Speaker 5: wl W as Cincinnati rallied from a five to nothing

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Speaker 5: deficit to beat the Braves eleven to ten. The Reds

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Speaker 5: on a twelve game winning streak, their longest in sixty

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Speaker 5: six years. Michael Conforto had four RBI in the giants

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01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: eight to five win over Arizona. San Francisco has won

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Speaker 5: eleven of twelve. Mookie Betts's eighteenth home run in the

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 5: Dodgers three to two victory over the Houston Astros. The

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01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 5: Padres hit three home runs at a thirteen to three

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Speaker 5: win over Washington. In Colorado, the Rockies trailed the Angels

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 5: four to three in the bottom of the eighth inning,

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Speaker 5: but Colorado had the bases loaded two hits.

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Speaker 4: Tonight Drives hit the center.

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Speaker 13: Field dun the drug is done touch of all time

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Speaker 13: for the Grand Tour, and the Rockies leaded seven to four.

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Speaker 5: The call on Koa Elias Diaz a grand Slam, giving

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Speaker 5: the Rockies a seven to four win over the Angels

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Speaker 5: despite shohey Otani's twenty fifth home run and Mike Croud's

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 5: sixteenth home run of the season. After further review, back

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Speaker 5: to you.

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Speaker 3: stupid thought from that was I had a flashback to

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Speaker 3: Scott Hall, the wrestler who's unfortunately passed away. Yeah, when

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Speaker 3: He is the FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no So.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next an affair, Chili and stupid hats. That

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Speaker 3: So I tried chili for the first time in my life.

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 4: Wow, how do you gone this long without trying chill it?

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: I really didn't realize it was this. I've gotten major

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 3: pushback over this major Wow. I didn't really as it

1447
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 3: was that big of a transgression.

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01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 4: It's a transgression a shock because it seems like a

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01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: pretty basic It's.

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: Kind of like never having a hot dog, like you

1451
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: really yeah, you like you live in the United States

1452
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: of America, just sort of feels like at some point,

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: almost accidentally, we would have eaten ChIL skyline, right, I

1454
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: think like access wise games you go to and hot

1455
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 2: dogs everywhere chilly true, not everywhere chili dogs.

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: You can combine the two together. It really getting frisky, honestly, Like, I.

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01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: Mean they put chile in, I mean they hide it

1458
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 2: and stuff like there's chili and queso. Sometimes there's chili

1459
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: on burgers. Also there's I mean, like, you know, it's

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: not always sitting down and enjoying a heaping bowl of chili.

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: You know, It's just it's just it's a it's an oddity.

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:52,600
Speaker 2: So I don't want to I don't want to delay it.

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: So how was it? Okay?

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01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: It was visible.

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 3: I'm one bite, not bad and all of a career.

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think I'm going at it seconds.

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, one and done?

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: Picked around the beans, Yeah one and done done, Yeah,

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01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: picked away. That's really what are you doing?

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01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: It's totally picked around. Have you read me like a book?

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I'll leave the door cracked. I

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: might be the Udonis haslum of chili right where he

1473
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 3: barely plays. It's once every other other blue moon. If

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 3: there's some sort of crazy chili cook off it. Yeah,

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 3: I might have a bite again before I you know.

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: Before you're dying breath.

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01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, before my dying breath. I might have another bite

1478
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 3: of chili. I'll leave the door slightly cracked.

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny about it, It's not it's

1480
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: not that you're like adverse to chili. It's just that

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01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 2: you like your chili. Curiosity is disturbing to me, like

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: the fact that you spent your whole life it almost

1483
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: feels like you know those people and they're not weirdo's

1484
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 2: like I get it, who like have never had a

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: sip of alcohol in their life and they're like fifty

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: and you're just like, how has how has this never happened, like,

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01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 2: like again, almost accidentally, you could just pick up a

1488
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: drink and be like, oh, that's mine, or wait, no

1489
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: it's not, it's and it's beer, you know. Like it's

1490
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: just like, how do you reach a certain age without

1491
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: having that experience? And then and then now the fact

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 2: that you're agnostic to Chili, it's driving.

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01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 4: Me crazy nasty to Chili like it's a religion.

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 2: I need you to have a strong opinion about Chili.

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 4: What Chili of the NFL? What team is the Chili

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 4: of the NFL?

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Speaker 2: Brian though, just like I had one bite and I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you're like, you know what, I've never really

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 1: dabbled with this team before.

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Speaker 4: I tried it out for one game and I think

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 4: I'm okay.

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 3: Now maybe you tep I don't know. Oh wow, I

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: watched a minors game and I'm good. I don't need

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Speaker 3: any more.

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Speaker 1: Baby, I don't know. That's it.

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: Could absolutely be. How about this, stupid hats? This is

1507
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 3: burning on my mind. So I take you back to

1508
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 3: the NBA draft just a couple of days ago, and

1509
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 3: for some crazy reason, if a pick is traded, the

1510
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: guy will still do a sit down interview wearing the

1511
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: hat of the team that made the pick.

1512
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 2: He might not be going to that team.

1513
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 3: He could be going to a completely different team, but

1514
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 3: he will do the interview wearing the hat of the

1515
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: team that drafted him. This was a portion of it.

1516
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: This is on ESPN Monica McNutt. She was interviewing Jerris Walker.

1517
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 3: Now listen to what she says.

1518
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: Real fast. Oh, here you go, real fast, Here you go.

1519
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 8: You're wearing a Wizards hat, but obviously you're headed to

1520
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:35,839
Speaker 8: the Indiana Pacers.

1521
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's wearing a Wizards hat, but you going

1522
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 3: to the Pacers here, Jerris.

1523
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: I don't understand this at all. The NFL has it

1524
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: figured out.

1525
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 3: How stupid would it be if Bryce Young, who is

1526
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick, who was the original pick,

1527
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 3: was the Bears who had it, but they traded it.

1528
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 4: Like if it happened on draft night and he bears.

1529
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 2: Will Anderson Junior, Right, that happened Draft night.

1530
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 3: What if he walked out there with Arizona Cardinals like

1531
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: a jersey a hat, and it's like, but he's going

1532
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: to the Texans.

1533
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: It would make no sense. Why can't the NBA figure

1534
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: this out?

1535
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1536
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: I don't I don't get it. And and you know what, also,

1537
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: it's it's so funny that so it's like you take

1538
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: you take zero stands on chili, that's right, but you

1539
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: take hats. We got to make it happen.

1540
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: You take you take this like these hats have to go.

1541
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: Beans are turkey or beef?

1542
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: Who cares?

1543
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: But it's like, I take umbrage with these hats.

1544
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: The ridge has triving me crazy, unbelievable. I think I

1545
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 1: think in the you know, advanced societal technological generation we

1546
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: live in, yeah, we should be able to get the

1547
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: right hat to the right guy at the right time.

1548
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: You would, But I guess that's just the part of

1549
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: the draft they haven't figured out yet.

1550
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: They have not gotten that down. Just yeah, all all right?

1551
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: Coming up next? Disrespect? And is this the best rivalry

1552
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 3: we got right now?

1553
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: This is the worst looking how I ever saw it.

1554
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1558
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Speaker 3: Oh what's going on? We get to a war of words?

1559
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 3: And also, is this the best rivalry we have going on?

1560
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Speaker 1: Okay.

1567
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 3: So we've got Chiefs tight end Travis kelce He's responding

1568
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 3: to Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase and uh, it's it's

1569
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: interesting what's going on over here. So to start this off,

1570
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow was asked who's the best quarterback in football

1571
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 3: right now? And Joe Burrow said, it's Patrick Mahomes. He

1572
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 3: just won a Super Bowl. He's Super Bowl MVP until

1573
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: we knock him off, He's the guy. And so the

1574
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 3: same question was asked to Jamar Chase, who's the best

1575
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 3: quarterback in the game right now?

1576
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: This is what he had to say, Burrow, everybody knows that,

1577
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: yeah MVP?

1578
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: Who said Pat? Joe?

1579
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 2: So Jamorrow went with the Pat.

1580
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 3: Who So Now Travis kelcey teammate of Patrick Mahomes, who's

1581
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: going to be golfing with Patrick Mahomes pretty soon?

1582
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: I think?

1583
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

1584
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey had this to say on the New Heights

1585
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 3: show with his brother Jason.

1586
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bold.

1587
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 14: You know, the guy's a two time league MVP, two

1588
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 14: times Super Bowl MVP. Yeah to say, Pat Who is

1589
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 14: like a disrespectful love some good locker room banter man.

1590
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 14: Shout out to Jamar Chase for you know, holding it

1591
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 14: down for his QB. But don't you ever dispect Pat Mahomes.

1592
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 14: Now if you want a Takyo takyos pimp, just better

1593
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 14: back it up.

1594
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So here's where we're at. I love this

1595
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 3: about the Chiefs. They have rabbit ears, you know what

1596
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 3: I mean. They're here in all this stuff, especially when

1597
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 3: it relates to Cincinnati with the what Burrow Heads Stadium

1598
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff before the AFC title game.

1599
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: And now we get the next chapter in this where

1600
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow I'm sorry where Jamar Chase says Pat Who?

1601
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 3: And you had Patrick Mahomes tweet out a picture with

1602
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,799
Speaker 3: both his Super Bowl rings like that who? And Travis

1603
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 3: Kelsey said what he just said? They Hey man, they're

1604
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 3: not looking the other way, and I like that. I

1605
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 3: like that they're competitive this way and they've obviously used

1606
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 3: the motivation the right way. I don't mind all rabbit

1607
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 3: ears are not bad rap are not bad ears. If

1608
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 3: you hear the like this, you just got to use

1609
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 3: it the right way.

1610
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 2: I love it, I really do. I think it's better

1611
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: for the NFL the more we hear from these players.

1612
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: I've always I've always stood by Aaron Rodgers for his

1613
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 2: honesty and his ability to speak for himself. He doesn't

1614
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: let anybody control the narrative for him, even though people

1615
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: find what he says highly disagreeable controversial at times. Many

1616
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: times I love hearing from him because I think it's

1617
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 2: so much better than the bs that you get fed

1618
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: by most people in those situations. And frankly, I mean it.

1619
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: It lends itself to a more honest conversation around what

1620
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: football actually is and how it looks like and how

1621
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: these guys actually talk like. There are certain guys who

1622
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: are funny and fun Travis Kelsey is one of them.

1623
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Rob Gronkowski is one of them. Jason Kelsey, Travis's brother,

1624
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: is one of them. Some of them are super serious,

1625
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: you know, some of them are in to psychedelics. Yeah,

1626
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: so we're trying to legalize psychedelics.

1627
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1628
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: And some of them are hyper competitive and Jamar Chase

1629
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: what he represents is really the bridesmaid in the NFL

1630
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, in terms of his team.

1631
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: You know, the Cincinnati Bengals. They're playing second fiddle in

1632
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: the AFC to a juggernaut. And so very much like

1633
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods, when Tiger was on top

1634
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: in the PGA and winning majors all those years. If

1635
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 2: there was no Tiger, we would have been living in

1636
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: the time of Phil. But there was a Tiger, and

1637
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: so Phil had to constantly look up the leaderboard and

1638
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: see Tiger there storming over the rest of the field.

1639
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's going on with Joe Burrow and

1640
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. You've got this impasse. And his name

1641
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: is Patrick Mahomes and so Jamar he can say whatever

1642
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: he wants, Like Travis Kelsey said, he could talk that mess,

1643
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 2: but you better be able to back it up.

1644
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm okay with the trash talk that

1645
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 1: goes back and forth. Whether it was calculated by Jamar

1646
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: Chase or if he actually just forgot, I don't know.

1647
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: And it does seem like we are living in this

1648
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: abundance era of NFL players being very candid, whereas maybe

1649
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: a few years ago. The podcasts and the little clips,

1650
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff, video production and the access that

1651
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: we have is light years ahead of where we were

1652
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: even a short time ago. And I'm fine with it

1653
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: because as a gambler, I want to know everything now.

1654
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes processing that information, absorbing it and making it actionable

1655
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: in terms of what we bet on can be difficult.

1656
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: That's where it takes a very i would say patient

1657
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 1: mind with a lot of moving levers in your brain

1658
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: to be able to absorb all this stuff. But these

1659
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: are the two I would say, these are two best

1660
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: teams of football, the Bengals of the Jeeves. And it's

1661
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: great they played in the same division or the same conference.

1662
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 1: It's great that they've played each other in the playoffs

1663
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: for a while, and I think we're going to continue

1664
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: to see a lot of these showdowns in future seasons,

1665
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: hopefully in AFC championship games. But man, oh man, it

1666
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: is refreshing to hear what we hear from these guys

1667
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, because first of all, it's great

1668
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: for our show. We have three hours to kill.

1669
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:26,839
Speaker 4: This is tremendous fodder.

1670
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: But also it gives us a glimpse of to who

1671
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: they are as people, and that helps when we're trying

1672
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: to beat on them.

1673
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you saw a real shift with Brady.

1674
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 3: Tom Brady used to be completely buttoned up, super I

1675
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: don't know, like almost the image of the perfect quarterback,

1676
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 3: if you will. And he saw how things were going,

1677
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: and it's like that's not what sells it more the

1678
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 3: real stuff. It's like less russ, more real, like Russell

1679
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 3: Wilson has the polish to a fault at times, and

1680
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 3: we just want the raw, real truth. And I think

1681
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 3: Tom Brady going to Tampa he changed his complete image

1682
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 3: where it was less about hey guys, I woke up,

1683
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: took my vitamins and got a good workout and people

1684
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 3: are just rolling their eyes, like dude, killing it over. Yeah,

1685
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: just crack a joke and you know, say something real.

1686
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: He was a real person. He like turned it from

1687
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 3: a robot in New England to a person in Tampa

1688
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 3: and it sold well. Yeah, a lot of people like

1689
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 3: that version of Brady a lot more than the previous one.

1690
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: Look, I mean what sells in life is authenticity. When

1691
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 2: you feel like you're being sold you you're uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah,

1692
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean that's the truth in I mean even in

1693
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: business transactions, even when you're buying something from somebody, you

1694
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 2: don't want to have that feeling. It sucks. Russell Wilson

1695
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: is selling us this contrived and that is the perfect example, Brian,

1696
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: but that he is selling us this contrived, scripted, packaged

1697
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: product that feels it just feels very hermetically sealed and inhuman.

1698
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Whereas Travis Kelcey and his brother cracked the mic and

1699
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: they have no idea where they're going, but they're gonna

1700
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: take you on the ride with them, and that's a

1701
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of fun.

1702
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: They're real, Yeah, they're real.

1703
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers again, love him or hate him, He's gonna

1704
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 2: find a microphone and he's going to tell you exactly

1705
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 2: what's going on between the years, whether you agree.

1706
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: With it or not. And that I think, you know,

1707
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: everyone is entitled to their opinion for sure, and this

1708
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: is a very opinionated topic, right the best quarterbacks or

1709
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 1: the best players in the league. I think it's obvious

1710
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: to most people that it is Patrick Mahomes, even Joe

1711
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: Burrow admitted it. Yeah, but I do think it gives

1712
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase a lot of credibility in the locker room.

1713
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 1: And and that's who he is, right, That's Joe's guy.

1714
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: They want a championship together, right there, Lsu, that's he's

1715
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: the guy.

1716
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 12: Well.

1717
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: And also, I mean you're looking at from the Cincinnai

1718
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 2: Bengals side, like, look at it from Patrick Mahomes side, like,

1719
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 2: is that something Tom Brady would have ever done in

1720
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: New England after say, his third Super Bowl win, tweeting

1721
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: back that too, holding up his rings. There's zero chance.

1722
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: And the reason why we like the new Tom Brady

1723
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: better than we liked the old Tom Brady in terms

1724
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 2: of how absorbable he is in the media is because

1725
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 2: is because he's showing that, you know, competitive fire is good.

1726
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: He's showing that not everything has to be perfect. Like

1727
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, we know what burns inside him. We're not dummies.

1728
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: Obviously he wants to win. Obviously he's fueled by naysayers

1729
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 2: and haters, and he's showing off a little bit. You

1730
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: know what, I dig it, man, because I don't want

1731
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: to root for the quarterback who goes You know what

1732
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 2: I was doing high knees down the alley of the

1733
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,600
Speaker 2: plane area, and I know, making sure to get my

1734
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 2: hamshrink massage. Well, everybody else was sleeping. How did that

1735
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 2: go for us?

1736
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 3: By the way, Oh the pushback was crazy. Now I

1737
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 3: do love this because Travis kill He made me think

1738
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 3: of Goodfellas. Okay, So Travis Kelcey saying this.

1739
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Don't you ever dispect Pat Mahmes?

1740
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 2: Now it reminded me of Robert de Niro saying this

1741
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: in Goodfellas.

1742
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, you insulted them a little bit,

1743
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 6: a lot of ad you s.

1744
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 3: So like Travis Kelcey is de Niro, is Jamar Chase

1745
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 3: Billy Batts.

1746
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Is that is that? Yeah? That doesn't.

1747
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the bar.

1748
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: See, I didn't insult anybody. I didn't.

1749
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Just having fun. Give me a drink over here. How

1750
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 2: about this though? For now we're.

1751
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 3: Talking twenty twenty three, what is the best rivalry in

1752
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 3: the NFL? Not historically speaking, We're not going back to

1753
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 3: Bears Packers right here?

1754
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Right now? Do you have me spangles at the top? Yeah? Absolutely, Yeah,

1755
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 2: that feels like that. That feels like it, man, because the.

1756
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: Best two teams, right, and they've played each year in

1757
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs last two seasons, Yeah, in the title game.

1758
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 4: And it's gone different ways both years.

1759
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you can't say, oh, well, you know,

1760
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: it's not a rivalry if the other team doesn't win.

1761
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: We've had two straight years aft championship game Bengals win,

1762
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs win. Now the difference is the Chiefs won the

1763
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The Bengals did that.

1764
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: And there's there's like there's there's honesty there, right, you know,

1765
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 2: because like whereas a lot of teams when it comes

1766
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: to their rivalries, you know, the coaches they kind of

1767
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, they stem the title a little bit. Oh

1768
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: we got have a ton of respect for what they're

1769
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: doing over there in Cincinnati. Like Andy Reid will even

1770
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 2: kind of subtly poke Poke the Bear. Like Andy Reid,

1771
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: he'll take a big bite of his cheeseburger, and you know,

1772
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: and do I love him so much. I think he's

1773
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 2: so great for the game, and he's committed his life

1774
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 2: to this. And so there is a little bit of

1775
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: you know, braggadocia coming from the top, like they know

1776
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: who they are and they'll swing it around a little bit.

1777
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 2: And the Cincinnati Bengals, unfortunately, they're playing step brother to

1778
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in in some ways. So yeah, you know,

1779
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: the best rivalry right now in the NFL, it's sort

1780
01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 2: of feels like what it used to be when it

1781
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 2: was Peyton Manning helming the Colts Tom Brady helming the Patriots,

1782
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 2: except the gloves are off. It's a little bit more real.

1783
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: It's it's cutting a little bit closer to the bone,

1784
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 2: and we're getting to see a little bit more of

1785
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: what the rivalry really looks like, because I promise you

1786
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 2: inside the ropes inside of the Patriots locker room, there

1787
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 2: weren't pleasant things said about the Indianapolis Colts when we

1788
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 2: were preparing for them. Tom Brady wasn't, like, you know's

1789
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: a really good competitor.

1790
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, waxing poetic about Peyton Manning's career.

1791
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 3: Remember when Antonio Brown went live in the post game

1792
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 3: locker room and Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach, is

1793
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 3: calling the Patriots a bunch of a holes.

1794
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: That's what it really right, Yeah.

1795
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So the top three rivalries right now, let's put

1796
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 2: a list again. Okay, I like you, I.

1797
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 3: Got Bengals Chiefs at the top. At that second, it's

1798
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 3: got to be Cowboys and Eagles.

1799
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 4: Are I was going in my head.

1800
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 3: So number three, here are a couple of candidates best rivalry,

1801
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 3: right here right now, you could go Niners Rams that

1802
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 3: MS should be healthier.

1803
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,759
Speaker 1: That's where I was going. How about or Buck Saints.

1804
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: That was the other one, because they've had some battles

1805
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: playoff games the last few years. You've got now it's

1806
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: different without Brady.

1807
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 3: You've got Raven Steelers. You also have like in the mix,

1808
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 3: you know, think about the Jets. Where you go Jets Dolphins?

1809
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: Now that I'll give you another one again in a

1810
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 2: lot how about how about how about Ravens Bengals. You

1811
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,879
Speaker 2: knows raven.

1812
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Steelers is historically great, but I think there's a distinction

1813
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: between postseason like actual elite teams playing each other in

1814
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: big spots than the traditional historical rivalries. Then I would

1815
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 1: put Jets, Dolphins, and and and some of the other ones, Bears,

1816
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: Packers and stuff like that. But I think in the

1817
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: current iteration of the NFL, in this new let's call

1818
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: it the Mahomes generation, I I think Ravens Steelers would

1819
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: be a tough sell.

1820
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 2: I'll give you another one that you're just not compelled with, Kenny.

1821
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're just not you. I haven't had great, amazing

1822
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 1: seasons both at the same time, but they've both been

1823
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: in the playoffs together.

1824
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 2: I love I love the Ross against his old squad

1825
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 2: rivalry that we got to see bird last year. Like

1826
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,839
Speaker 2: the Seahawks Broncos, I mean Broncos obviously not very competitive

1827
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 2: last year. Gino Smith had a surprisingly good year. But yeah,

1828
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 2: it feels like the seeds are there for if Ross

1829
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: has a turnaround.

1830
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Seattle, San fran Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, there's something. Didn't

1831
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: they play they play the playoff last year? Yeah?

1832
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 3: They Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something. I was one

1833
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 3: and done in the suicide pool last year.

1834
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 1: Are you really? Yeah, I'm doing a big one here

1835
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 1: in town. Oh, let me get in, let me get

1836
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: in on that.

1837
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's not cheap.

1838
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: Last until week two this year.

1839
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 4: But with a friend of mine, friends bet for you, Brian,

1840
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 4: your proxy, Rob.

1841
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Your proxy, bride ru Yep, you can't do no inside

1842
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 3: information either, can't do that.

1843
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1844
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 3: But last year Week one, I'm like the Broncos and

1845
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 3: look how wrong this turned out to be.

1846
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: This is why the NFL is so crazy and fun.

1847
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: Going into Week one, I'm like, I don't know if

1848
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,959
Speaker 3: the Broncos are going to cover the spread in Seattle.

1849
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 3: But Russell Wilson and the Broncos are not losing to

1850
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 3: Gino Smith and the Seahawks.

1851
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened.

1852
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: And then it went from there where the Broncos are

1853
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 3: five and twelve and the Seahawks are a playoff team

1854
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,640
Speaker 3: with the winning record that was insane.

1855
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: Even won betting in the NFL and suicide pools. And

1856
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 1: how about the Bears beating the Niners and then getting

1857
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 1: the number one pick. The Bears beat the team that

1858
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: won the NFC West and was a win away from

1859
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and then with the worst record in league. Yeah,

1860
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,919
Speaker 1: it's just it's why the NFL is the best. It's insane,

1861
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 1: it really is.

1862
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 3: We've got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American. We've got

1863
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 3: he's a pro chili guy. We've got Jared Smith FSR,

1864
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 3: betting analyst, pro chili guy.

1865
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. I've had a bite and I'm set

1866
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 2: for life. He's an alien. I mean, this has proved

1867
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:20,480
Speaker 2: that extraterrestrials walking amongst us. I just did the spaceship,

1868
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, that's all I'm missing that?

1869
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: All right?

1870
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:27,680
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1872
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1879
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Speaker 3: and the Humpty Hump? Is it not true that Tupac

1880
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 3: was on the stage as one of he came up with. Yeah,

1881
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 3: that's a true fact right there. So the Humpty Dance,

1882
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 3: there's Tupac in the background over no like way backup vocals.

1883
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. That's your fun musical fact of the day.

1884
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if Iowa Sam plays some Slayer at the end,

1885
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 3: there might be another one.

1886
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, not sure. I'm not trying to put

1887
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 2: is a member of the digital underground that's how he

1888
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: came up.

1889
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, what in the world?

1890
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:39,360
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1891
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1892
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 15: Rich There is a very forgettable but one of my

1893
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 15: personal favorite, very forgettable movie with Dan Aykroyd called Nothing

1894
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 15: but Trouble. Yeah, and Digital Underground is in that film,

1895
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 15: and Tupac's in the film, and you're like kind of

1896
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 15: getting an introduction to him for this time.

1897
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: This is like finding out that like Snoop Dogg was

1898
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: discovered first on Sesame Street.

1899
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1900
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but he was with Crover.

1901
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 2: Really that's how he was discovered, Dad, I guess yeah,

1902
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: now that you mentioned it. He was in the background

1903
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 2: when the count was the one.

1904
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh how about this day on this show?

1905
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, Hey, we're trying to break new ground.

1906
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 3: You know. Melvin Gordon, he is a free agent running

1907
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 3: back and he was on with Jim Rome and he said,

1908
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 3: it's literally the worst position to play in the NFL

1909
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 3: right now. It literally sucks. And he said because running

1910
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 3: backs just don't get any love. And it's hard to

1911
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 3: argue with him. Is there a worst position in football,

1912
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 3: especially at the NFL level, to play than running back?

1913
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:50,560
Speaker 3: Because the market is barren really in terms of what

1914
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 3: money you can command on the open market. And think

1915
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 3: about these big names on the open market. There is Ezekiel, Elliott,

1916
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook, Kareem Hunt, Leonard Fournette, Melvin Gordon. He once

1917
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 3: did some pretty good things in the NFL, but he's

1918
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 3: been a free agent for over three months right now,

1919
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 3: and you look at the top guys trying to get

1920
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 3: their money. Look at Saquon Barkley, look at a guy

1921
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 3: like Jonathan Taylor with the Colts who's coming off a

1922
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 3: tough year, but two seasons ago he led the league

1923
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 3: in rushing and he's three years into his career.

1924
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's hard to argue with that.

1925
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what other position you could say, no, no, no, Melvin,

1926
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's playing guard in the NFL. I

1927
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 3: think it's at the top of the list. Is playing

1928
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 3: running back right now? Is the worst position to play

1929
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 3: for all of those reasons.

1930
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 2: You know what's so weird about this commentary is it

1931
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: just smacks of lack of awareness, you know, so Melvin Gordon,

1932
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he was expansive in his explanation, but I

1933
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 2: went in I read the quote. Now, I'll admit I

1934
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 2: didn't hear the sound clip from Jim Rome, and I'll

1935
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 2: listen to it at some point and maybe my opinion

1936
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 2: on this will change if I hear the inflection of

1937
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 2: his voice, but just the words that he chose, it

1938
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 2: just feels like a lot of complaining for a guy

1939
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 2: who has career earnings over thirty million dollars, Like like like,

1940
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: is it really that tough, Melvin? Is it really well? Relatively,

1941
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 2: it's all relative.

1942
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: No, No, I get it.

1943
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm and listen. I'm not that guy who's gonna be like,

1944
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, the rich can't complain because again, you know,

1945
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: the worst, the worst day of your life is the

1946
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,959
Speaker 2: worst day of your life. You can't change shoes exactly,

1947
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 2: you know, uh, moment for moment with anybody in this world.

1948
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 2: So pain is relative, Like, it's not his fault that

1949
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 2: he was a first round pick. It's not his fault

1950
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 2: that that that, you know, what he's experienced compared to

1951
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 2: other running backs has been kind of a charmed life.

1952
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 2: But he's got to have some awareness that it is

1953
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: a charmed life that he leads and that when you

1954
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 2: have fans of the NFL reading this quote, they're gonna

1955
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 2: be like, what does this dope have to complain about?

1956
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 2: Like it just smacks of a lack of awareness, Like

1957
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 2: this guy has gotten some of the biggest contracts we've

1958
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 2: seen running backs get in the league over his career

1959
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 2: in the league, so when he complains it kind of

1960
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 2: falls on deaf years. I will say this though, for

1961
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 2: running backs in general, and to support the one side

1962
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 2: of his argument. Yeah, right now, the market's tough because

1963
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who can do what you do.

1964
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: That's the unfortunate reality of being a running back right

1965
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 2: now is there's a little bit of hey, yeah, there's

1966
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 2: like two guys maybe three in the NFL who are

1967
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 2: stop everything if we have a chance to sign this guy.

1968
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 2: And then there's just a whole lot of warm bodies,

1969
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 2: and Melvin is sort of falling into the whole lot

1970
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: of warm bodies category right now.

1971
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's looking for a job currently.

1972
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 2: I think he's saying with the Kansas City practice squad.

1973
01:42:59,560 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Is that wrong?

1974
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: Yes, but I don't. But that was after he was

1975
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: released by the Broncos last year. Yeah, he signed with

1976
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: Kansas City, but I don't think he's on Maybe he

1977
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: is still.

1978
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 2: I think I think he's on their practice squad, which

1979
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: which means, by the way, I mean, he's under contract.

1980
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean he's going to be a

1981
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: that he's going to get paid veteran minimum this year,

1982
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 2: which is compared to the other contracts he signed, is

1983
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 2: very low.

1984
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I think. I'm not sure. I don't know the

1985
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: details of exactly where he is, but let's just say.

1986
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 3: I think he's free now because he is with the Chiefs.

1987
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 3: Last year he was on the practice squad. He didn't

1988
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,639
Speaker 3: play for them, he didn't he in the Super Bowl. Yeah,

1989
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 3: now he's on the open mind.

1990
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he is, so let's just leave it.

1991
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: He is looking for a job. Now, if I was

1992
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: looking for a job in the in the sports radio industry.

1993
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be saying.

1994
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I would be, you know, going on

1995
01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: national media or tweeting or putting on my platform. You're

1996
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: a job ever, but please hire me? Yeah, weird, it's

1997
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,560
Speaker 1: just like it's just awareness, right, Richie said, like it

1998
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 1: just you know, maybe say, it's a really tough job,

1999
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 1: but I welcome the challenge right of playing the toughest

2000
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 1: position in the NFL. Every day we blood, sweat and

2001
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 1: tears and I'm gonna run through a brick wall. Yeah,

2002
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: this job stakes, I hate it. Oh well, wait, don't

2003
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: you want that job? Don't you need that job in

2004
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: order to make money and continue your career. It's just

2005
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: you're right, timing, awareness, all of those things just don't

2006
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: it's a weird one, don't. Well that's the smell test here,

2007
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: I think that.

2008
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 3: Listen, it'd be the same as well, similar to if

2009
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 3: you went to a job interview and you said something

2010
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 3: that was true but horrible to say back to that

2011
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 3: job interview awareness. Yeah, like, ah, man, we got to

2012
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 3: be here at eight that's yeah right right, well yeah

2013
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 3: it does, yeah, but a horrible thing to say in

2014
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 3: a job interview. So yeah, the time of him saying

2015
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 3: these things, Melvin Gordon is not great as a free agent,

2016
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: but it's true.

2017
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 1: It is true. Like what you turns sometimes in the.

2018
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 2: NFL, what's getting less love than running back? Oh yeah,

2019
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I look, especially where they were a couple of years ago,

2020
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 2: with like the Todd Gurley deal and and that the

2021
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 2: recent Derek Derek Henry deal. Like you look at some

2022
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 2: of these running backs and the value they bring to

2023
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 2: certain organizations, and you say, well, geez, yeah, like all

2024
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: these guys, the good ones at least, should get broke off.

2025
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if we could characterize Melvin Gordon as

2026
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 2: one of the top running backs in the league anymore.

2027
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 2: He may have something left in him. He swears that

2028
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 2: he has tread left on the tire. That's the part

2029
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 2: of the interview I really enjoyed was the confidence in

2030
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 2: the bravado of saying like, hey, I'm still here, like

2031
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: I could still I could still wreck this league if

2032
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: given an opportunity. I love the way he's talking there.

2033
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 2: But but yeah, it's just one of those It is

2034
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's kind of like showing

2035
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 2: up to the wrong place saying the wrong thing, like

2036
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, it's just it. Look again,

2037
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of authenticity. We just talked about

2038
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 2: this with the Kelsey brothers and Jamar Chase and the

2039
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 2: battle of words between the Chiefs and the Cincinnati Bengals

2040
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 2: right now. So I appreciate knowing his thoughts. But again,

2041
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 2: the same way, people disagree with a lot of what

2042
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has to say, I disagree with what Melvin

2043
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Gordon has to say about the NFL, And frankly, it

2044
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 2: feels like a lot of belly aching from a lot

2045
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 2: of these running backs. Yeah they're at the top of

2046
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 2: their game, and yeah it's unfair and you got to

2047
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 2: point it out, and I completely agree that there's still

2048
01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 2: a home and a place for running backs in this league.

2049
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 2: But guess what a successful running back season right now

2050
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: compared to a successful wide receiver, for example, season, It

2051
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 2: pales in comparison when you talk about the chunk plays

2052
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: and the overall yardage gained and the highlight plays and

2053
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: the marketability of these pros like it's a passing league

2054
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:04,759
Speaker 2: and no offense. It's just the evolution of the sport,

2055
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 2: the same way we we kind of hit a bygone

2056
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 2: era of the you know, the the fullback. You know,

2057
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 2: we didn't hear a ton of complaints from fullbacks around

2058
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,759
Speaker 2: the league. That's you know, I mean, they've basically been eliminated.

2059
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 1: You know what.

2060
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 2: They turned into tight ends?

2061
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Yea offensive lineman. You know what I say. We started

2062
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 1: with a Tupac reference, I'll end with an iced Tea reference.

2063
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: Don't hate the play, I hate the game. That's what

2064
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: it is. That's the game. The game today is throwing

2065
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 1: the football. You're upset with the system and you're mad

2066
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: at your you know, your situation, So you're taking it

2067
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: out in a way that if you really think about

2068
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 1: what your real situation is probably shouldn't be hating hating

2069
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: on the game, right Like, that's the don't hate to

2070
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: play hate the game. The game right now is not

2071
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: running the ball, and you run the ball. So that's

2072
01:47:58,800 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: just the reality you live in.

2073
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 3: By the way, I once saw Iced Tea and Coco

2074
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 3: at an I hop in Hollywood.

2075
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: Stop.

2076
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm serious. I was just at the ie hop. I

2077
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 2: was with the buddy and he was like, is that

2078
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:09,679
Speaker 2: Iced Tea?

2079
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: And I looked over.

2080
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is that is totally iced tea right now?

2081
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 2: And then that's it. That's the other story. I let

2082
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 2: them meet their food.

2083
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:19,400
Speaker 8: You know.

2084
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 3: That.

2085
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:25,560
Speaker 2: How long did that reality show last? Was that? Was

2086
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 2: that a one season run?

2087
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Was that a one? Here?

2088
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 2: In three seasons? Ice loves Coco?

2089
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, I do love that.

2090
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 3: When Ice Tea was featured on Cribs that he had

2091
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 3: a vending machine in his home. So if anybody comes

2092
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 3: over they're working on music or whatever, he's like, oh,

2093
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 3: you're hungry right here, it's a buck fifty, you know,

2094
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 3: put begging me for food. That's an awesome touch. All right,

2095
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 3: We've got speaking of Austin touches over here. There isn't

2096
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 3: anybody who has an awesomer touch when it comes to

2097
01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: delivering concise and hard hitting sports and accurate with a

2098
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 3: little bit of creativity and some as we would say

2099
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 3: around here, bizzazz. That would be one Isaac Loewen grown

2100
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 3: is Loo with the latest time.

2101
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 5: Oh, you've really captured it as always because adding to

2102
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 5: the bizazz this time a pop quiz for the three

2103
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 5: of you that comes up in mere moments after we

2104
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 5: share the latest exploits of the Cincinnati Reds on Friday night,

2105
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 5: rallying from a five to nothing deficit to beat the

2106
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 5: Atlanta Braves eleven to ten. Cincinnati on a twelve game

2107
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 5: winning streak, its longest in sixty six years. Twenty one

2108
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 5: year old Reds rookie sensation Ellie de la Cruz became

2109
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:40,839
Speaker 5: the youngest player in fifty one years in the majors

2110
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 5: to hit for the cycle. The San Francisco Giants find four.

2111
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 5: Michael Conforto RBI defeated the Arizona Diamondbacks eight to five.

2112
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 5: The Giants have won eleven of twelve. Mookie Betts's eighteenth

2113
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 5: home run of the Dodgers three to two win over

2114
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,479
Speaker 5: the Astros. Padres hit three home runs a thirteen to

2115
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 5: three victory over Washington, and Colorado's Elias Diaz hit a

2116
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 5: grand slam in the bottom of the eighth to give

2117
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 5: them a seven to four victory over the Angels despite

2118
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 5: sho Hey O'tani's twenty fifth home run and Mike Trout's

2119
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 5: sixteenth home run. Today's action gets under way at one

2120
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 5: ten Eastern time in London as the Cubs take on

2121
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 5: the Cardinals.

2122
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 9: Now Go Redbirds.

2123
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: Look at the over.

2124
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:29,799
Speaker 5: Yeah on the concession menu today at the stadium in London.

2125
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 5: A hot dog that is two feet long. It is

2126
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 5: called a boomstick and is topped with chili.

2127
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 2: Boomstick was my high school nickname?

2128
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,679
Speaker 9: Really, well just in high school or did that ever? Continue?

2129
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 5: It's followed man, okay, good boomstick, Ornberger sour cream and

2130
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 5: not Joe cheese sauce.

2131
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: So here's the.

2132
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 5: The three of you are going to guess how many

2133
01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:01,920
Speaker 5: calories it has and what the price for this two

2134
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 5: foot long hot dog is. Talk with chili, jalapenos, sour cream,

2135
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 5: and Nacho cheese sauce. Brian will start with you on

2136
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 5: your calorie count estimate price.

2137
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: I'll say seventy nine to ninety nine seventy nine.

2138
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 9: I don't have that two feet. By the way, it's

2139
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 9: American dollars, not.

2140
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 2: Euros, marius and calorie wise.

2141
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 3: Good lord, we got to talk about I'm gonna say,

2142
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: thirty five hundred.

2143
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,440
Speaker 9: Thirty five hundred jared calories and price.

2144
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 4: Three thousand calories fifty bucks.

2145
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Speaker 9: Right, and last but not least written boomstick.

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01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you. It's my given name, Bertha.

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01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 2: I will guess it is twenty two hundred calories and

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01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: twenty two hundred dollars dollars and it's forty five dollars.

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01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 5: We go to pick a guy out, Okay, a calorie

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01:51:54,439 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 5: count price, for the calorie count, Boomstick wins twenty calories

2151
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 5: and for the.

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 9: Price boomstick seven dollars. Wow, a clean suite for Boomstick.

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01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys.

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01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Okay, he hasn't won anything on the show yet with

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01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 1: our competition, so we'll.

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01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 9: Give him this one point.

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01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: This is a bargain.

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01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: That is a pretty good bargain.

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01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 2: Two feet mixed with all those toppings.

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01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 1: Forty seven dollars thirty seven thirty seven. That's like one beer.

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01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: When I go to a Vegas Golden Night Scale.

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01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 2: Wait, I got it. I mean, like, hang on a second,

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01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 2: thirty seven dollars.

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01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: That's a fantastic deal by t feet probably four people. Dude,

2166
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: you're only paying.

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01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 2: A dollar fifty in inch.

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01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 3: That's yes, that sounds expensive, though I was willing to

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01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 3: pay double that. Right that is a freaking bargain right there.

2170
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,839
Speaker 3: If I was in London, I would drop everything.

2171
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 2: I've always said I measure my real estate and my

2172
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 2: hot dogs by square footage, and a dollar fifty foot

2173
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:01,800
Speaker 2: pretty good.

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01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 3: What would they say to me if I was like, Okay,

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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 3: it's thirty seven bucks, just give me the two foot

2176
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 3: hot dog.

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01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 2: I just want ketchup on top.

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01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 3: What's the price now without the chilli and the yes,

2179
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 3: I don't need anything.

2180
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: Just give me ketchup on that thing. And I know

2181
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 2: they would need to judge me.

2182
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 3: They would say I'm a psycho after all of the

2183
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 3: bad mouthing. How many dollars am I knocking off that price?

2184
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 2: If it's just because you're probably still looking at a

2185
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 2: thirty dollars dog, I mean really, you're paying for the

2186
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 2: meet and bun. I mean, you know everything else is

2187
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 2: in addition to the meat and the bun. So fair enough, Yeah,

2188
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: fair enough right there. It is a charge for the

2189
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 2: ketchup though, be honest, just on, just for it. Just

2190
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:47,120
Speaker 2: ketchup on the dog raised.

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01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 4: Charging south can where are we?

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01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2193
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: Part of it.

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01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 3: I didn't realize this became such. I don't know, like

2195
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 3: a people would be like, you only put ketchup.

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 1: They thought an American it's a clutch up mustard on

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01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: the dog takes You're way hotter, Brian, Hey, be very

2198
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: careful there. You'll offend everybody.

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 8: I know.

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01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how this has become offensive. It's gotten offensive.

2201
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 3: We're in that territory.

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01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 2: I'm outrighty crazy.

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01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 3: We got rich Oinberger, Penn State All American live in

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01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 3: the fs R building.

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01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 2: Today, we've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm Brian Now okay, we've got a betting horror story

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01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 3: to get to and also our bets for today slash

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01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 3: the weekend that's to come. It is Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 12: See this.

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01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 1: This is my bostick.

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01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 11: A missile off the Wall is last time up in

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01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 11: this fall is curb rushed Deep right Field. It is

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01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 11: a five four morgame, a two runs show I'm my

2215
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 11: Bayla Cruise, I'm folks I Fitch.

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01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:05,839
Speaker 2: He's getting loose. It is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Right here on Fox Sports Radio, We're coming to you

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Speaker 3: hundred WLW Reds Radio Network. As Elie Dela Cruz went

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01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 3: ballistic hit for the cycle yesterday against the Braves and

2226
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 3: the Reds have won twelve straight, twelve straight. We might

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01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 3: have a Reds appearance maybe maybe in our bets. To

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01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 3: close the show, we'll see top of the hour up

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01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 3: on Game LaVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman, Zadup, Plexico Buris. Make

2230
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 3: sure you keep it black here on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 3: Shout out to the crew. We have Brandon te As

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01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 3: our trusted producer today doing a great job. We've got

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01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 3: Iowa Sam playing the digital underground and fun facts Boomstick.

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01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 3: You did a great zab technical producer and also Isaac

2235
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 3: Lowland pron crushed it the quiz. I feel like I

2236
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 3: did an awful job on the quiz. I guess the

2237
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 3: price of a two foot hot dog in London for

2238
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 3: the Cardinals Cubs game. I bet I guess twice the

2239
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: actual cost. It's thirty seven bucks and the calories were

2240
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 3: way off. Other than that, I brought the fire today.

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01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 2: Oh you really did, you really really did? Thank you?

2242
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: J I think every week.

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01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, thanks, that's very nice of you.

2244
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 1: Jared. How about this?

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01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 3: You know, Jared, I thought of you specifically because this

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01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 3: is just a bad beat story. Is some mega bad

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01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 3: beat story. You go back to the NBA draft, you

2248
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 3: can bet pick by pick who's going to be the selection.

2249
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 3: And so the Indiana Pacers they have the seventh overall pick.

2250
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 3: The clear favorite just before that was Jeris Walker to

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01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:10,760
Speaker 3: go with the number seven pick. To Indiana, they drafted

2252
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 3: drafted Wembin Yama's teammate from France with the seventh pick.

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01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 3: The pick later Washington the Wizards, they selected Jeris Walker

2254
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 3: and then those teams swapped those players. So if you

2255
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 3: gambled on Jeris Walker to be the number seven overall pick,

2256
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 3: to the Pacers.

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01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: You're wrong.

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01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 3: He was the eighth overall pick, but he's going to

2259
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 3: play for the Pacers at bizarre.

2260
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 2: That's rough. And I have a buddy of mine who

2261
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 2: falls into that exact category.

2262
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: Yes, no, hey, listen.

2263
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 4: I think the draft betting and and I've been a

2264
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 4: fan of it in the NFL side.

2265
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't watch the NBA enough to really get the context,

2266
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 1: but the draft betting is getting really twisted and dark

2267
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 1: because of all of these you know well leaks, misinformation

2268
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: and then the stuff you just described very very murky.

2269
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 3: It's crazy too where you look at the market for

2270
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 3: the number two overall pick with all the reports about

2271
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson Randon Miller, and it was insane like Monday,

2272
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 3: like Scoots at plus money like Wednesday.

2273
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 1: Made the noise and just get plus money on both sides. Yeah,

2274
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 1: you just wash your hands of it and move on.

2275
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get frish doing that, but you're gonna

2276
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 1: make money doing that.

2277
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 2: You're just gonna You're gonna take your profit and build

2278
01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 2: your profit.

2279
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 1: Can't get broke picking a profit.

2280
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 2: No doubt.

2281
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 3: All Right, time for our picks. Jared will start with you,

2282
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 3: what are you feeling today or the weekend.

2283
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple nerfees. You know, that's my

2284
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: bet here in baseball season. It's slow season in the

2285
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: in the gambling space, you know, really baseball it's the

2286
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 1: biggest show in town. I would go nurfy Pirates Marlins.

2287
01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 1: Marlins are the best Nerfey team in baseball, and I

2288
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: would also go neurfy Twins Tigers. The Tigers and the

2289
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: Twins have been just the lineups have been dismal lately.

2290
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 1: So those are my two Nerfy picks of the day.

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01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Twins Tigers, Pirates Marlins. A little later this afternoon, little baseball.

2292
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 2: No runs first inning, now runs.

2293
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 1: First inning come. It's actually become one of the most

2294
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: popular bets in baseball, and I've really latched onto the

2295
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 1: excitement of it. It is a fun wager.

2296
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 3: We're giving the stiff arm to runs in the first in.

2297
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 3: You're not doing that in the London game, right, No.

2298
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 1: I would bet the guests runner because it seems like

2299
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a run in every inning in that game.

2300
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, very well, could be all right, all right, Well,

2301
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna stick with something that's

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01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 2: worked because I've been pounding the under on Padres games

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01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 2: on Sundays and or Saturdays, I should say, and it's

2304
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 2: worked the past two weeks. I'm two for two, so

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01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 2: let's stick with it. Nationals taking on the Padres in

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01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 2: San Diego at Sea level. Matt Waldron, who's a rookie knuckleballer,

2307
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 2: has a lot of action on the knuckleball, and he

2308
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 2: keeps his ERA under three, so I say he's gonna

2309
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 2: cause a lot of ground balls today. And the Padres

2310
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 2: are currently batting two to zho five with runners in

2311
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:10,760
Speaker 2: scoring position. It's the worst in the league, right, Yeah,

2312
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 2: it's It's the worst in the league by a good stretch.

2313
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 2: And it's been terrible all season long. Now they're coming

2314
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 2: off two games where they've gone double digit runs, so

2315
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 2: you know they're due for an absolute dud. I'm taking

2316
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 2: the under nine total runs.

2317
02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take the Tampa Bay Rays their team total.

2318
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take over five and a half runs today.

2319
02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 3: They're facing Jordan Lyles, who's been in utter JABBRONI he's

2320
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 3: oh in eleven, his ERA is close to seven. So

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Speaker 3: I've got the Rays scoring at least six runs today,

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02:00:40,440 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 3: maybe a peak Jared at runs in the first inning

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02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 3: in that.

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02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also the Royals don't win games that he starts.

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02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: They're oh to fifteen, that's right.

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02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that could work to your favorite as well.

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02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 3: Hope you have a great betting week, a happy Father's Day.