1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The UFC is back at it in Sydney, Australia, UFC 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: two ninety three, the pay per view. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: You've been waiting for pregame preview. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Well you go have a beer. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: Hope not stop nightmare, blunt rotation. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Back where we belong doing a pregame preview. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: We can't get up on the root today. So what 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I wanted was a little remixed to the set, some 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: mood lighting. 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Maybe stand us up, spin it around. 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, men will talk, 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: real talk like men do. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: Ok. 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Reggie Jackson, goodness, define my life. 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: I just want those mento just look a little different, 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: be a little more comfortable. 17 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Maybe be a little bit edgy. Something's gone and I'm. 18 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: A little bit angry. 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: You're not feeling good, you know. I can tell though, looks, 20 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: I can see it in your eyes. 21 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 4: You are either hi, yeah, sick, ye, sleep deprived. 22 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: That's right. Our guys will pepto bismo. These are the 23 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: foremost of those. 24 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 5: Yes, the pepto has like played no role in my 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: life these days. 26 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: So that's what I've fixed. 27 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Hey, we should probably started drinking. 28 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: That was very good. Probably Cambell got full blown in. 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: On Saturday, September ninth, and maybe you can call it 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: September tenth if you live down under. The UFC is 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: back at It in Sydney, Australia. Well that's a knife, right, 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: UFC two ninety three, the pay per view you've been 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: waiting for and the return of Midway champion Israel Otisnia 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: I felt as co host of the award winning Morning 35 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Combat in this great vehicle we do call pregame preview 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: that I should acquire the three greatest minds in Mixed 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: Martial Arts Luke, Thomas, Chuck Mindenhall Back at It UFC 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: two ninety three, with the only caveat Luke, the only 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: one that you would dig deep within yourself, look in 40 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: the mirror and speak with real talk. 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, like men do. 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 5: Nightmare blunt rotation. Look at this, Look at look at 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the Brits use the word geezers. 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 5: They I don't exactly know the way they mean it, 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 5: but I have a feeling it's this dude, three motherfucking 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: geezer man. I mean, not a thing cool about this 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: at the set. 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 4: This guy includes himself on one of the greatest minds 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: in MMA's three of it himself and. 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: Then you call me a geezer. I haven't had a 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: chance to talk yet. It's what's best. What's going on? Yeah? 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: By way of Colorado as yes, correct, you do that 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: thing that people. 54 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: Donectic It is a ship hoole. Can we be on 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: why there's two Connecticut guys over here? I mean, and 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: obviously if you're looking. 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 5: At nobody else, nobody likes this material and I want 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: to I want you all to know I understand that, 59 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 5: and I don't care. 60 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. 61 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to go to it. You can't even defend 62 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: those people the Connecticut. 63 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Normally we would fill this space truck, as you already know, 64 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: with great fight talk, great banter, great breakdown and predictions. 65 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: But one of the enduring themes about USC two ninety 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: three we can't lie during this tumultuous twenty twenty three 67 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: calendar year. 68 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: This card ain't deep, brother, it ain't deep at all. 69 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: It is top heavy to the tits, Chuck. Can you 70 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: give me an opening grade on two ninety three. 71 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: D plus C minus something like that? 72 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: I mean, some of the fights may end up being okay, 73 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: like you look at them and that you see the potential, 74 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: but in terms of name value, hype, things like that, 75 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: it's not too good. 76 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 5: Where are you on the idea about how the USC 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: kind of managed this card where they didn't have a 78 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: headliner till lay. They wanted, obviously to be Trickis with Whitaker. 79 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 5: And I actually did an interview with the submission radio 80 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 5: guys and they brought up a point. It's like, should 81 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: the UFC have done the Whittaker DDP fight in two 82 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 5: ninety three, it would have diminished one card. 83 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: But dude, this card could have used that straight. I 84 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: could have used that fight. 85 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we look more since we've been extra critical 86 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: for a lot of things UFC this year, but we 87 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: always perk back up when the fights deliver. International Fight 88 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Week delivered UFC two ninety one in Salt Lake City 89 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: had some big moments. We're just coming off a big 90 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: pay per view. Could this card overachieve? Yeah, they all could. 91 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: They all could, even all those in between fight nights 92 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: that have been crappy this year. 93 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: But I paid for this one. I know you got 94 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: UFC No. 95 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Ch two weeks later on paper this aint or maybe 96 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: one week later on paper. 97 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: This just ain't great, Chuck. 98 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: It's not and I'm not sure that Strickland is the 99 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: guy you want in there. I think he's been in 100 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: what five different five round fights and for him have 101 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: won the full five rounds. 102 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: So you can see, you can. 103 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 4: See the path and remember Israeli Senya before he had 104 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 4: this Alex Badetta series was starting to get accused of 105 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: being a little boring too, like he had, you. 106 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Know, by one bald member of the media, Chuck. So 107 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, we'll see it is. 108 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: About at Asnia, it is about his return. 109 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 5: He was going to ask, though, like what is it 110 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: the main reason this fight under under or the fight 111 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 5: or the card the main event or the card underdelivers 112 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: on what grounds to you specifically? 113 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: What about it? 114 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: I could see a scenario, although I think that Strickland 115 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: is a forward guy, like he's a pressure guy. He's 116 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: going to bring the fight if it turns into one 117 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: of those things where is he is waiting to counter 118 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 4: the whole time or something like that, whereas just being 119 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: reluctant to engage kind of like cannon ear thing or 120 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: you know those type of fights. 121 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: I could see it. 122 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Kind of like Chevchenko in the car Mooseh rematch, or 123 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: she was just well and if you're going to fight 124 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: that way, I'm just willing to go twenty five minutes 125 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: with you and take home the w out, like if. 126 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: You were throwing punches in an arrow. Yeah, and right 127 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: about here. 128 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: We certainly don't want that, so we can we can 129 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: blame DDP for this fight with Strickland right now happening, 130 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: although I don't hate. 131 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: The fight style wise, like it's going to be somewhat. 132 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: Interesting from Strickland's obnoxious you know, usually rapport in the 133 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: build to a fight toward fight night. But should we 134 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: also blame another man for this fight happening right now, 135 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: not a plane, a train, or an automobile a bus 136 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: abus Maga Metov. 137 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: He didn't necessarily like lay. 138 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: In al donna gon sized egg in that fight, but 139 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: it was a little shocking that he got railroad in 140 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: the way he did, and that catapulted with good timing 141 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Strickland to the top to the title. 142 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: Here we are. 143 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: I think all of this plays, don't you think. 144 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at all the potentials that 145 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: could have happened, you end up kind of getting a constellation. 146 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: I feel like in this situation. 147 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: You already mentioned DDP, like that might have been the 148 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: fight that people that was the one that was in 149 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 4: the imagination. First, I think Sean Strickland it feels a 150 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 4: little bit like he's a mandatory in a weird way 151 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: because he's just he's there and. 152 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: He's the guy. 153 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: And I think that the lack of competitive nature. I 154 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: think a lot of people kind of see it like 155 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: Vegas does, which is that. 156 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: Sean Strickland probably won't put up much of a fight, 157 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 158 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: So I think when you factor all that in something, 159 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: some of the luster comes off of from even from 160 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: the pay per view, like general buzz that you get 161 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: from them. 162 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: I think for MEBC, the way I look at it 163 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 5: is there are some good parts about it, but the 164 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 5: biggest thing that I think undercuts it is like these 165 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: two were never on a collision course. They clashed at 166 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 5: press conferences, but they were up to this point categorically 167 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: like pretty different parts of the division. Is he as 168 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 5: the champion or you know, obviously only in title fights 169 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: and Sean like on his way up, but you know, 170 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 5: having setbacks that were noteworthy as well. 171 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: But he stays active. 172 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: He like does UFC solids, he fights at the Apex, 173 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: He's reliable to like short notice, and he is a 174 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: technically proficient fighter. I think, for the most part, is 175 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 5: a very He's a good fighter, he's a fighter certainly worthy. 176 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: Of a lot of respect. 177 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 5: But I think like when I just like, look at 178 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 5: this fight, it's like I just I literally am not 179 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: even sure like what path he could take to win. 180 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: I genuinely, you know, put up a fight, yes, but 181 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 5: when I honestly don't know what that was. 182 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: Went off the top. 183 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: He got here by the fact that he has already 184 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: cleaned out this division like kind of multiple times, so 185 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: there's a lack of fresh opponents. He also got here 186 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: because they gave him somewhat of a soft tune up 187 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: get well fight against a boostmagamed off and two Strickland's advantage. Yeah, 188 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: he railroaded him, He took him out of there. He 189 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: absolutely broke him and finished him. But do you feel 190 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: like because Izzy came out publicly and said well, for 191 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: this fight to actually happened, Strickland had to agree with 192 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: the UFC not to embarrass the brand. One thing that 193 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: we know that we'll typically get well if Strickland eventually 194 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: faces out Asnia, at least we'll get a crazy build. 195 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: If we don't get a crazy build this entire thing 196 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: of failure. 197 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: Oh I think I don't know if it will be 198 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: a failure like that. Well, first of all, didn't the 199 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: fight sell out? They did not sell out before they 200 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: even knew who the headliner was. 201 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: And the UFC just no matter what, seems to have 202 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 5: strong ticket demand wherever. 203 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: It's so it's in a strange way. 204 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, it depends on what we want to consider 205 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: a fail Will it be a dud? It could be, 206 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: but I think it would be more based on on 207 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 4: the on the way the fight plays out than the 208 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: lead up. I don't know what, what are you expecting 209 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: from this type of build up? 210 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: Like everyone I know is like, can't wait for the 211 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: press conference? Yeah? Everyone, everyone? I know? 212 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: What do people want to see that? Because if we're 213 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: we will criticize Strickland for almost being over over the line, 214 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: over the. 215 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: Threshold of taboos, over the lines. 216 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: Gee, people people hate that I argue this line, but 217 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 5: tell me it's tell me it's wrong in this particular case. 218 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: At a bare minimum, people want to see Sean Strickland 219 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: for reasons I don't fully just whatever, but they exist. 220 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 5: But they want to see him sling arrows at is 221 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: he they want to see him verbally get taken down 222 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 5: a peg or two. But I think most people realize 223 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 5: skill for skill. You know, it's this is a tough challenge. 224 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 3: For Sean ste Well. 225 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: Strickland's got to play his role. 226 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: And I mean, and I know that's a cloudy statement 227 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: to make, because this is not pro wrestling. You are, though, 228 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: required to sell a fight, even if Strickland has limitations 229 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: made based on like UFC saying, if we're gonna put 230 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: you in the marquee and you ever want to have 231 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: a chance to you know, if to be a star here, 232 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: don't do this and this, and hopefully he won't, but 233 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: he needs. 234 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: To say all that stuff. Question is he's toughness? Question 235 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: is resume? 236 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Question all this shit get try to get in his 237 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: head so that if he does get splattered, which is 238 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: the betterest expectations, that's sort of the full cycle of 239 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: a fight, right. 240 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: You pay to see the villain get taken in some way? 241 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: Are you? 242 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: I want to ask you guys this because you see 243 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: you seem to both agree that Stricklands and over his 244 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: head here do you give him any shout? 245 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 3: Like? 246 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: Basically I think that his thing is to break you. 247 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: We just mentioned that last fight. Yeah, you don't think 248 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: he can break a guy like this mentally strong as 249 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: is he and then style wise you get into the 250 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 4: styles of the fight, like you don't think that he 251 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: brings anything to the table, dude. 252 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 5: And also just I mean, dude, there's a big gap 253 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: in footwork ability between the two. Yeah, like a big gap, 254 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: a big big gap. And what did we just come 255 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: off of UFC two ninety two or al Jamin Swing. 256 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: We talked to Matt Frivola today like whenever people will 257 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: see it's some big deal. But yeah, so we just 258 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: should just be honest on certain levels. Even if you 259 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: want to respect Sean strack of fighting abilities, we're not 260 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: asking you to care about anything else. Just as actual 261 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 5: fighting abilities, they're strong. But even then the things he 262 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 5: relies on, dude, I mean, just think about it. There's 263 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: basically two gears he can play, right. People killed him 264 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: for the Pareta angle because he was driving in on 265 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 5: a guy and using his hands for defense. 266 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: He has this kind of style, what is he this way? 267 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 5: So he has this one hand up and he kind 268 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 5: of holds this one around here, and you see him 269 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: bring his hands up and like try to catch with 270 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: a lean and whatnot. 271 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 3: Almost a little bit. There's a little bit going on. 272 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 5: But the point I'm trying to make is, uh, he 273 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: he transfers defense a lot, like the movement is all 274 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: part of it, and Poeton got him to do it. 275 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: Like what makes you think is he could not do 276 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: exactly the same but take advantage of the same kind 277 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: of That's exactly what he specializes in. 278 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: Traps tricks is the fight. 279 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: Though, say that didn't exist and they're going in this fight, 280 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: would you feel different about striking? I feel like that's 281 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: the one fight that we starved because most of us 282 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: fight the split decision was very cozy. 283 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: He hasn't redeemed that yet. He's not a bad fight. 284 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: He's a good fighter. He's a good fighter. 285 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: But to be honest, he hasn't redeemed what the loss 286 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: to Poeton meant, which means you're stepping up to the 287 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: to the fight before the. 288 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: Title fight to that level. 289 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: Look, Strickland got this fight by timing DDP not being available, 290 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: a boost, Malga Metov not being you know, and then 291 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: the timing of just getting the call. But if you 292 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: believe that Strickland doesn't have much of a chance here. 293 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: They almost has to just play the crazy villain to 294 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: give to give this card what gains because this is 295 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: as is this as weak as a paper card could 296 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: be top to bottom. I know it's in a lot 297 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: of ways playing to the Oceanic region. There's a lot 298 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: of local fighters on there. Carlos Alberg's great looks are 299 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: going to get showcased as putting to respectable. 300 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: He's not a nice run. That's one of the rare 301 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: sort of like I gotta watch him. 302 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: He's at least on the main card, right, I believe 303 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: I'll double check what I believe that forever well, they 304 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 4: haven't identified that he wasn't even part of the showcase, 305 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: but I do I do think the UFC views him 306 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: as a priority. 307 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: I think you're just a little bit. 308 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Cautious, okay, but we need Strickland then to do his 309 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: role and help selling the fight. 310 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Is there any acts though or not? Access? 311 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: Is there any chance? Is really what I'm saying. 312 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: That because the DDP upset of Robert Wadiker opened this 313 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: door to the likelihood that DDP and Izzy would happen, 314 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and then suddenly it's the who's the real African champion. 315 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: All this hype is just a trap fight. Is there 316 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: any elements of feel that a little bit? 317 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: But it's really because is he just got through going 318 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: through a series against a guy who I think put 319 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: a lot of doubt on his name, took his belt. 320 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: He had to go get it back. Obviously he did 321 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 4: that in spectacular fashion. But that you always wonder about 322 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: that because you have now the hype, escalation and everything else. 323 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 4: He's going home, There's a lot of things going on 324 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: in his life. 325 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: He hasn't struck me as the kind of guy who 326 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: lose his focus. 327 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: But at the same time, there are always kind of 328 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: trap fights when there's a guy that you're watching for 329 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: in the future and you just got through something really 330 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: big in the past. 331 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: Carlos Olberg is on the prelims. 332 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, here's how I explain that. 333 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: Is like a true professional champion, somebody like Izzy who 334 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: has all these defenses and he's decorated, should they're almost 335 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: like responsibible enough to never have an off night, or 336 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: if they have an off night, they can repair it 337 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: and not let it turn to disaster. But the reality is, 338 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: I just don't believe no matter how dedicated you are 339 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: that preparing to fight Robert Whitaker or preparing to fight whomever, 340 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: compared to somebody like Strickland who's not quite there but 341 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: dangerous enough but not quite that threat. It's just like 342 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: anytime there's an impornent change, it has to change the 343 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: level of intensity that you were once preparing for, that 344 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: you're used to. So that opens the doors for trap 345 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: fights or big upsets to happen. But does anything in 346 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Strickland's makeup The kind of upset that Juliana Panna had 347 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: against Amanda, I guess in theory could happen to anybody. 348 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: Amanda did have a great training camp, she got overwhelm 349 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: by the offense. She got worn down, she got exhausted, 350 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: she got submitted. It happened, okay, short of a disaster. 351 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: For is he to Strickland actually have the game that 352 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: if this was the trap night, remember yol Romeiro at 353 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: least had the threat of the strike, But is he 354 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: was almost not picking him up and it was closer 355 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: than it should have been. 356 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 2: Maybe is there any elements I feel like the best. 357 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 4: Would almost be like uh Aman in nuna Is versus 358 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: Juliana Payne in the first fight, where basically whatever reason 359 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: is he is just not there, like you're saying, he's 360 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: just not there fully gets heavy work early, and somehow 361 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 4: it starts going downhill and he can't recover and suddenly 362 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: he's just in deep water. That's the only way I 363 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: can see it, where somehow he's getting hit with stuff 364 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: and he just doesn't have it, you know. But I 365 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: don't force see it, and we haven't seen evidence that 366 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: he will do that kind of fight, you know. 367 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 5: And if the kind of guy he walks you down, 368 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 5: he literally just walks you down a cross stepping the 369 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: whole way. He does other kinds of things with his footwork, 370 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 5: but what does he do with KOs like all of 371 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: his hey, you know, he makes people work a lot, 372 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: and then it's along along the fence line. That's where 373 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 5: he finishes guys off. He's a fence line guy, dude, Like, 374 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: that's hard to trap. I isy in places like that, 375 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: It's not fucking easy. What would be your equivalent? 376 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: Like obviously, like in the middleweight division, the history of 377 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: the middleweight division, you've had another champion, Anderson Stiva, where 378 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: would you put like, what would be the equivalent of 379 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: this challenge? 380 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 381 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: Da so the patrickte the Patrick ote one, but the 382 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: difference was Patrick o'take a bang. 383 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: He had good power. Okay, is this very? 384 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: It's the is the answered telest lightest or this submission? 385 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: Gy who missed? Wait? Uh, he's a coach, Travis lud Well. 386 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 5: Travis Lude actually is a I mean he's not the 387 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan of grappling, but he is a very. 388 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you get to a title level, 389 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: you're you're legit in some form, but really we're not 390 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: giving him a chance, right, We're not giving him a chance. 391 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: So I think I think I think it's the way 392 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: I look at it is if is he is not 393 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 5: on his A game, I think anything is possible. But 394 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: if he is on his A game, I just don't 395 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 5: see what the how there could be a deciding factor 396 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: for him. 397 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what that would. 398 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: We get a drink update. 399 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: I was doing coffee to start because I'm old and 400 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to. But now I've got the I p 401 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: a in there from from uh that you're drinking the 402 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,239 Speaker 1: same things on the water in Delta Nines. 403 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: Wheat. Well, I haven't been able to tell I would 404 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: say that much. 405 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: Just as show the evolution of our bodies. 406 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: As now we can barely even stomach the alcohol that 407 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: used to be the foundation of this segment. 408 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: And there's that we do. It's supposed to be a tailgate. 409 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: What happens, it's it's what happened to us is probably 410 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: your question. 411 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: What happened? We're pathetic fucking sacks, you know. It's that 412 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: t RT thing. What are we doing? I'm just wasting. 413 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: Just sit on the needle. 414 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, drop the vape and pick up the needle. 415 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that was on vacation, dude. 416 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: It was so fucking humid that I never had to 417 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: use nasal spray the entire time I was there. It 418 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: was like it was I was like four days and 419 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: I was like, dude, I don't even I haven't even 420 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: used it. 421 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: Man, Remember you. 422 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Told me three years ago you were so addicted to 423 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: the vape that you would have one in the mouth 424 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: and one in the nose. 425 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: When you're like, I did not tell you that these 426 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: are a lot of member in the year. 427 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: On one and grabbing. 428 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 5: Ryan Campbell can be reliably counted on to steer the 429 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 5: conversation to buttholes, specifically, specifically the penetration of it. 430 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Kevin Bacon type thing. 431 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Is this if this is what it is on paper, 432 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: which is a stay busy for Izzy. 433 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: In fact, they kind of rushed this paper. It feels 434 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: like it rushed it and they forced it. 435 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: Remember they were waiting for his immigrations jauns with his 436 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: immigration status to be resolved just through the powers of 437 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 5: government because there's an application process with the visa that 438 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: he needs. We're all just kind of like waiting on 439 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: the paperwork to get done. So, you know the way 440 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: that you know when you're waiting on the mail. I 441 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: don't know how like you know, spine tangling that is 442 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 5: as action. So it kind of had a they're here 443 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 5: kind of accidentally. 444 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Well, my setup was to say this would be an 445 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: unexpected final hurdle to get to what has suddenly become 446 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: a big fight, which would be the Drisk Drinkist Due 447 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: plus C fight. Are those the only two middleweights left? 448 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: That is he should face will face? 449 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: Yes? Where are I think this fight? Yes? This fight DDP. 450 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: And he should move I think so too. I think 451 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: so too. 452 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: By the time he moves up though, could Poton be 453 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: holding the title? 454 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: No? 455 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: No, right, you know, I don't know how you guys 456 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: are seeing it, but there's a little bit of a 457 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: like so you start to make the comparisons because there's 458 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: still a running parallel to each other. 459 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: You're talking about Pereira, he goes up. 460 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: He beats y On right like he beats obviously is 461 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: he was not successful in that. Now he's going against Strickland, 462 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: who Parra already beat in the first round. And you 463 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: take these comparisons, right, they feel like they're still. 464 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: Kind of playing off each other. 465 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: If he's not able to kind of do something similar, 466 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: if he's not able to make it look as easy. 467 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, it starts to it starts 468 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: to reflect a little bit more on Perira. 469 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: What he's saying, Luke, is that this rival ryant close 470 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: to being. 471 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: Over with now. I don't think so. 472 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 5: The Pereta and yeah, I think there's life in it still, 473 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: I think, I mean, I mean also, like you know, 474 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: this is a huge moment for Izzy. We've had this 475 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: debate here million times. How popular is he, how popular 476 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: it is. I really believe we have to stay out 477 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 5: loud again. My bias is well known here. You look 478 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 5: the guy, well, he turned a corner with that win 479 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: over Alex, like this is the highest his popularity has 480 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 5: ever been. I feel like he leveled up with that. 481 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm not saying he' shown him Mauley, I don't know that. 482 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that, but I am saying it felt 483 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 5: to me Chuck as a skeptic or someone was a 484 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: little bit like he leveled up. 485 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did. I think the whole thing boosted him. 486 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 4: There was so much and I think that this is 487 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: necessary at some point. I mean, it's kind of like 488 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: the this and Silva with chill sun and coming around. 489 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: You have to have a guy who's gonna drag it 490 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: out of you, right like it's gonna be. There has 491 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 4: to be a guy that adds doubt to the scenario. 492 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: And he got the guy and it actually played out 493 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 4: perfectly for him. 494 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 3: Takes the belt. They have to do it again. 495 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: Everything being written about what you're doing over here, everything 496 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: being written about. 497 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: That's that's how I use the bathroom in this sta. 498 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 5: I remember I had to pay one lira for one 499 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 5: piece of the phone book to go ticket to go 500 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 5: ticket down. 501 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 4: But everything being written about it was basically like this 502 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 4: guy has his number and it could end up being 503 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: the Alex Peddetta story in then, because if he wins 504 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: that last fight, all of a sudden, you're like, no, 505 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: this is just his trajectory of watching and he's the 506 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: one running off with it. He freaking wins, it knocks 507 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: him out, and then it's like here we are, you 508 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: know what I mean? So I think his stock went 509 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 4: way up. It's just a it's a human interest and 510 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 4: also b C. 511 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: Lesson on this Sean Strickland. 512 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 5: You can say what you want about the necessity of 513 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 5: the Mega made Off fight or you know, whether that 514 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 5: was the right one to make. Dude, I'm not saying 515 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 5: that Mega madef is a pushover. That's not my argument. 516 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 5: But for a guy like Strickland, that was not super 517 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 5: difficult work in general. He had to be careful, but 518 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 5: it was not it was it was as close as 519 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: you're going to get to a tune up fight, you know, 520 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 5: And he's. 521 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: Taking that right into this fight. 522 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 5: Like I do believe he's going to be very ready 523 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 5: for this, highly motivated, and as much as I've been 524 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: dismissive of it, you know, there's been times where like 525 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 5: you just don't imagine this is the guy that's going 526 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 5: to beat the man in this division, like you just 527 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 5: you know, you just couldn't believe it. 528 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: It happens when you least expected. Is it a nightmare scenario? 529 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 4: If Sean Strickland goes into the Australia, when's that belt 530 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: and suddenly you have this awkward champion who couldn't and 531 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: then do it like insults the country. 532 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: Better if he wins it, he better not consider a 533 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: baby face turn and be like, you know, could. 534 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: He have like a Colby Covington Brazil moment which was 535 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: controversial into a lot of people, gross but nevertheless put 536 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 5: him on the map. 537 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 6: Did he lost your savages? That's what they say? No, like, 538 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 6: no you ever notice that? No, I don't know why 539 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 6: they do that. It's like nau are. 540 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: It would be one of the more unpredictable outcome. This nice, 541 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: but we should season ourselves. We should to the idea 542 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: that this is happening more often than not. The big 543 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: upset paina over Newness, Usmann losing to Leon and all 544 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: losing a second time. By the way, maybe it's not 545 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, is that a monster upset? 546 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: Well? 547 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the method that Leon did it for thrown head kick, yes, 548 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Poeton just walking in off the streets suddenly and becoming 549 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: the champion and knocking out his Sony it does happen. 550 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: I fear that it would deliver a blow to is ease. 551 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: Whatever this thing is, the sheene of it's not invincibilit 552 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 4: because we've seen him lose, but there's the sheene of 553 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: cool that he carries like it would somehow that would 554 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 4: that would be a rough one to lose this one 555 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: in Australia. And also you just got a rematch with 556 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: the other guy, you know, and you're able to get 557 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: through him. I don't know how they would play that, 558 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: but it's just it derails so many plans. 559 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 5: It would be Yeah. I mean, I think that Ezzy's 560 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 5: time at one eighty five, provided he keeps winning, is 561 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 5: super limited. I think he wants that opportunity at to 562 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: a five again and deferred to go differently. He's been 563 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 5: bulking up slowly over the years as I've seen him 564 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 5: of the years, getting a little bigger, a little bigger, 565 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 5: you know, And I think he learned he learns vialuable 566 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 5: lessons from the fight with Bluhovich. I think the one 567 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: that the Blhovich that Peta fight fought was good, but 568 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: not quite the same Bluhovic. In any case, I do 569 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 5: think it'd be devastating. But either way, I feel like 570 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: two of five is calling. If he were to lose, 571 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 5: you could almost consider that to be like the decision 572 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 5: getting rushed from him. Just just go do something fresh, 573 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 5: because what are you gonna say? He can't rebound from 574 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 5: difficulty like we know for effect, he can absolutely go 575 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 5: to that place. 576 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty four years old is izzy. This would be 577 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: shooting for his fourth title defense, obviously, the first defense 578 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: of his second reign for Strickland. It wasn't just straight 579 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: from Poeton to a boost to here in between. He 580 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: lost the split decision of cannoneer in between, he came back. 581 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: I want a decision over im Avov. 582 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: So look short of the disaster and the catastrophe in 583 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: the early cut, or is he you know, has a 584 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: wideman leg cracker just you know whatever, I mean. 585 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 4: He's I think he can. I don't think he can 586 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: kill game. 587 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: Plan to victory. That would shock us. That might surprise us. 588 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: Not in God who wrestling gon that No one. 589 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: It's not coming. Yes that for you because that was Yeah, 590 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: I did see that one. 591 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: Woodley Tail was also a big hit in my house. 592 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: You remember that time I put twenty bucks on the 593 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: draw of glovekin Canela won because I knew it. 594 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I remember, Yes, it's a 595 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: good time. 596 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, path is, let let's carve a path. 597 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 4: I think honestly that it would have to happen the 598 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: way I just said where he kind of hurts him 599 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: in some kind of exchange. 600 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 3: He does put a lot of voime. 601 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 4: He's a high he's a high volume guy, in your 602 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: face guy, and I think if he's able to effectively 603 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: do that, the thing is the guy he's going against 604 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: punish his aggressions so well. 605 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 3: That I'm like, I don't see him doing this. 606 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, if he goes charging there and 607 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: land something and hurts them, overwhelms them, I could see 608 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 4: a scenario there where he just hurts them and maybe all. 609 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: Right, he's not the same at that point. 610 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: What if it's the type of dedicate, dedicated defecation, defecating. 611 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: What if it's the. 612 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: Type of I am drinking now, so's I have an excuse? 613 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: What is that? What what could have? 614 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: What if he targets the legs of Autustania and sometimes 615 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: even among elites. 616 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: Dude who has he put up with likes? 617 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'm saying though, Its not about putting out, 618 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: It's about it's about leveling, leveling the plane putting out. 619 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 5: I thought this was talking about like you're talking about. 620 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: Is he like who's like one of the most proficient 621 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: and effective like kakers in. 622 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: The you know who he is. 623 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: This is about leveling the playing field ways that Strickling 624 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: could be in this fight, in non overly dramatic ways. 625 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: He can. 626 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: Long enough to carry out a plan. 627 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: I think he can survive a plan. I don't think 628 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 5: he can be a guy who can just survive and win. 629 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah right. I don't think that he has to take risk. 630 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 5: He has to really crowd and really kind of go 631 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: for it, and that's highly risky. 632 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: Four times all the way through five rounds. 633 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 4: I mean that there's something to be said that he's 634 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: had the experience of the deeper rounds and he's able 635 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 4: to ease. I think he went through and the only 636 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 4: way he lost was the split decision. So and he'd 637 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: outstruck him by like thirty strikes in that fight. So 638 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: he's certainly shown that he can hang around. But it's 639 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 4: a certain kind of guy. 640 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: He just I know down you're to He just able 641 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 5: to work like he just rolls with punches, he catches them. 642 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 4: He's not going to catch is he with one hundred 643 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 4: and eighty strikes? I getd yr eye Hall or look, 644 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: he's not going to be able to do that. 645 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 5: Remember the leg kicks the Poeton landed on Strickland and 646 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: like he went the jab to the jab to the bodies. 647 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: What set everything up? 648 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: The hook like he was kicks the Poton landing on 649 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: a Sonia, which did play a role in catching him 650 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: in there. 651 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, But it's like Poton is a devastating leg kicker, 652 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: Sean Strickland is a threatening one, but he would have 653 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 5: to do a lot of work right, It has to 654 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 5: be accumulative. 655 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 2: So what superpowers is he going to lean on? 656 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: Cardio? 657 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 5: He has fantastic Cardio. His daring nature to the extend 658 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: to the extent is relevant. He has outstanding defensive wrestling. 659 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: It's not going to the ground. 660 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: Good strike defense, like a very good strike for the 661 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 5: most part, because she has a good system that he 662 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 5: works that is for the most part very effective. He 663 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 5: is well coached, He has an experienced, excellent corner I 664 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 5: think that matters in close contests. I don't know that 665 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 5: that will be one, but it can be certainly be 666 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: a difference maker in the moment. And you know, listen, 667 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 5: he has a ship ton of experience. He has a 668 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 5: shit ton of experience. 669 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: So this is his twentieth This is what I mean, 670 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 3: sixth in two years. I got since twenty twenty two. 671 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: This is not a bum like don't you know, I don't. 672 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 5: I don't love his world views, not a lot of 673 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 5: people do. But if you're just evaluating him as a fighter, 674 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 5: he commands respect, he's good. 675 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Will you allow his alter ego to Shaun Strickland who 676 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: wears that black do rag and shows up sometimes during interviews? 677 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: Is that like Cee Thomas holl playing the lead role 678 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: of black. 679 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: Poole that he's carrying and we're all like be like, oh, 680 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: that's funny, that right. 681 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: Let's hope he doesn't win for no, no, hey. 682 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: I want him to win and be on your room 683 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: service diaries, couch. I want to see that. That's what 684 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: I want to say. 685 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Next we'll see final thoughts on final thoughts on Yeah, yeah, 686 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: final thoughts on AUTI sonja here. 687 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: You expect the stoppage. 688 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: If Asni' is the heavy favorite he is, and he is, 689 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: he's got many reasons for you to put your money 690 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: in that side. 691 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 3: Is it going to go the distance? I think if 692 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: he's on his game, he stops him inside three. 693 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think so too, because it's easy to 694 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: imagine a scenario kind of like what Petta did with 695 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: with Strickland, where he just he gets goofy for one minute. 696 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: That's all it takes is one split second at reacts. 697 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: He goes in there and does something, so he gets 698 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 4: punished and he's down. I could see this happening, you know, 699 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: in this fight early so and I also think it 700 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 4: does matter it is he on some level to perform. 701 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: You know, I don't think he really loved that three fights, 702 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: you know, those three fights with Cannoner where he's getting 703 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 4: the you know, he's getting the decisions. 704 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: I don't think he really loved. 705 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: He was labeled by the knee jerkers as as boring 706 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: as faith does all that. 707 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: You know, that's what the Poteta thing has revitalized, like 708 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: this whole like excitement. 709 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 5: Level, commanding stoppage, So gonna listen to is the way 710 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 5: he shines here as potential. But again, Sean Strickland, it's 711 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: hard to see what the path is. But me, it's 712 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: fucking unpredictable, and is he's not really you know, focused, 713 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 5: it would be madness. 714 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: Are you expecting an aggressive call out? D DP, get 715 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: your shit together? 716 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: You expect? What do you? I think? I think? 717 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 5: I think if he gets a big ass ko chuck yuh, 718 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: he's gonna say dede in then two of five. 719 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna say both. I think so too. 720 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: Oh shit, O the DDP one is gonna in the 721 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: end if he gets through strickling, does it in fact? 722 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: Like has this home crowd using the mic? 723 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: It ends up being a big hype machine for that fight, 724 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: doesn't it? 725 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: Like it just kind of adds to that whole thing? 726 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I thought you were doing the In the end, 727 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter one thing. 728 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why. It doesn't really matter how hard 729 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: to try. Hey, maybe the leads to two. 730 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 3: You know it is? Where's a home invasion shooting when 731 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 3: you need one? 732 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: Wo Wow? All right, let's go to the co main event. 733 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the only other story I'm talking about on 734 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: this two ninety three card. It is an interesting storyline 735 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: of heavyweight, shoe drinking, bar buzzling, big power, knocking, bam bam, 736 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: tie two. We vot hey two, it's hardy, right, yeah, 737 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: let's bang brother. 738 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: So I like this. 739 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: This is a tough fight, Alexander Volkoff, and this cross 740 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: hairs tough fight in the situation for two of us, 741 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: which is two straight losses brutal one against god. 742 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 743 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: But then you package that by coming back so soon 744 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: rolling the dice was Pavlovitch that cleaned him? Right, we'renny 745 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: coming back so soon? Not really thinking that decision through 746 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: in my eyes. Although that's who TI to I Us is, 747 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, as Matt Ravola's Instagram says, all gas, no breaks, 748 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: that's who he is. But there's only so many times 749 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: you can get knocked out and spectacularly against guys that 750 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: are better than are we expecting some level of reinvention 751 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: because if if Ty comes out and knocks out Volkof, 752 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: that's a reinvention, man. But stylistically his demeanor maybe putting 753 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: a shoe condoment or something before drinking out of somebody 754 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: else's like soul. 755 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: What seventeen first round finishes combined with these guys Jesus. 756 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: So if he's real, this is probably the wrong fight 757 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: for him to completely reinvent them. 758 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Not a good fight, great fights, the potential of actually 759 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: bad fight for him. 760 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 4: It's a bad it's it's a tough one. It's I 761 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: know what you're saying. It's a tough rebound fight. And 762 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: this is a Volkov man being who he is. But 763 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: I think it's because it's in Australia. He wants to 764 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: fight in Australia. He performed there out of the gate 765 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: really well. This is the shoes and all that, But 766 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: the last couple of times he's been there didn't go 767 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: his way. And I'm like, then you to your factor 768 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: in kind of I don't know. I feel like it 769 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: could be a little bit of a setup for him, 770 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: and uh but I feel like somebody's gonna get I 771 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: don't feel like he's going to reinvent himself for this fight. 772 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: I feel like he's going to go in there and 773 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: try to win the way he wins. 774 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: All right, Look, I want to ask you this Ti too, Evasa. 775 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: In some ways you have full blown aids is mirroring 776 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: a almost like a new version of Derek Lewis, And 777 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: what's the biggest hit or missed on Derek Lewis. It's like, 778 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: if he's in shape and not in his back doesn't 779 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: hurt and he tried last fight, then we know he 780 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: can still pull in deep. Even if his late thirties, 781 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: he can still pull deep land the big knockout. 782 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: He's still so athletic powerful. 783 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: All that does is Taicho Evasa's top tier game dangerous 784 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: enough that we can go into each two vasa fight saying, well, hey, 785 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: if this is the night that he put it together, 786 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: like Derek Lewis, anything can happen or does he need 787 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: that reinvention? 788 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: I'm teasing Luke. 789 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean when you look at the game technically, is 790 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: there a hole a major hole he can he can 791 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: work on closing up that really could lift him the true. 792 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: Content he doesn't level up, which is possible, right. I 793 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 5: do think he is talented. We know he's very young. 794 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: He's obviously suffering some setbacks, but I do think he 795 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: has shown measurations skill development, and so if he levels up, 796 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 5: I think it's an interesting contest if he doesn't. Like 797 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 5: if he is who we think he is, he is 798 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 5: technically outmatched. He is dangerous because he can leap into position. Obviously, 799 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: we know he's got tremendous cho power, like this is 800 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 5: this is a thing, but he's quite hittable for people 801 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: who have great time and great accuracy and good use 802 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 5: of range, which Volkov has really kind of turned into 803 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 5: at this point. This is maybe the best one we've 804 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 5: ever seen, give or take right, He's he relies a 805 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: little too heavily on the you know. 806 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: The spirit and the heart, you know, like he's like, 807 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show everybody that I can, you know, even 808 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: take those punches and go through. 809 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: It's not this is not a Medello commercial. This is 810 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: real life, right it. 811 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: Is, man. 812 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: But I think that that's been to his detriment, you 813 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 4: know it. 814 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: It's aging him very quickly to go in there and 815 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: fight that. 816 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 5: And I mean, I don't know, Listen again, I'm not 817 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: in any way being disparaging. 818 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: I hope. I don't know what his financial situation is. 819 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 5: I don't know to what were the other factors that 820 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 5: have nothing to do with like smart decision making about 821 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: what fight two take and when that could have gone 822 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: into it. 823 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: But he did take the. 824 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 5: Fight, that is a fact, and it was in terms 825 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 5: of managing his career a really unforced error. It didn't 826 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 5: need to happen again, not knowing what the broader circumstances. 827 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. 828 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: On the flip side, Volkoff, Here's what's interesting is I 829 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: thought when he walked into that loss against Aspinall that 830 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: it might actually be time for Volkoff. 831 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: And what I mean by time is he showed some 832 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: great flashes. 833 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: We know there's some limitations to his game, but like 834 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: one of these days, he's still young enough, he's only 835 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: thirty four. I thought he's going to put it together 836 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: and really look like a heavyweight title contender and maybe 837 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: even end up getting to that level. 838 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Then he got white by Aspinall. 839 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: But what he's done in that same year and a 840 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: half time off is a stoppage win over Rosenstrike and 841 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: then that stoppage win over Romanoff. Has he done enough 842 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: to repair the times he has put his head above 843 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: water at the elite level and come up short Because 844 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: I don't look at him as a gatekeeper in ways 845 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: I look at a lot of this heavyweight division, which 846 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: there is a lot of average parody in there. 847 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: I think he's above that. But has he shown you enough? 848 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Because this fight may not actually show that to us, right, 849 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: because if he carries it from the outside and looks, 850 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, but has he shown you enough? 851 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm just comeback. 852 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: Isn't it crazy? That division though? So crazy? You can 853 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 3: be like you look at Alowsky, how. 854 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 4: Many times he's kind of down and out and then 855 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: he just kind of know, all of a sudden, he's 856 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: right back in the conversation. I think the victory would 857 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: put him back into the conversation. But I think you 858 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: have some tears structure right now, you know, with the 859 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: Aspinalls and the guys that so John Jones and the 860 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: guys that are kind of Pavlovic, those guys, I'm not 861 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: sure he enters that conversation. But maybe he's in that 862 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: four or five range where he's right back there. So 863 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 4: maybe he's a fighter two away from like. 864 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean, he wins this, he's he's a phone call 865 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: away if they need it. 866 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: Tripping in right, I would say that's probably true. 867 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: I mean, three in a row in this division, especially 868 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 4: when you when you k guy you know, when you 869 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: knock guys out like that, you know you get the finishes. 870 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: I think that that bodes well for your chances if 871 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: they need you. 872 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, look if his takedown defense can can be 873 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: a consistent factor. Can he win the UFC Heavyweight Championship 874 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: or do I just think because he kind of looks 875 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: like me, that there's this weird doppelganger thing going. 876 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: On to me? 877 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 5: I would say that the win that Aspital has over 878 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 5: Volkov is i you know, disqualifying of his chances of 879 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 5: getting a belt. I think it might be a little strong, 880 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 5: but it's not a great look if you're asking about 881 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 5: title potential, because it's not any kind of shame to 882 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 5: lose to Aspenall, but Aspenaal just you know, got the 883 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 5: submission from half guard on top, got to take down 884 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 5: with relatives like Volkov has really improved a lot of 885 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 5: his physical abilities and his technical abilities I think is 886 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 5: the biggest development. But he's big and kind of plotting 887 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 5: and relatively speaking a little bit slowly. Think about how 888 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 5: fast and explosive a guy like Aspinall is and he's technical, like, 889 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 5: that's always going to be a hard going to be. 890 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 3: A sliding doors guy. 891 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 4: I have a feeling at some point to look at 892 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 4: and say, like, remember the Derek Lewis fight. He's winning 893 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: the fight and then he just at the very end 894 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: he's he's caught his beat left in the fight like 895 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: something to look at that and you're like, man, the 896 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: guy could have already been there. And then he's like, 897 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like he gets he's one of 898 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: those guys you know, gets the penultimate spot and then 899 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: somehow doesn't get there, and then he's right back. 900 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 5: He pushed Curtis Blades through the absolute limits and you know, 901 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 5: was overmatched wrestling, but like kind of proved to he 902 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 5: is dangerous, Like he certainly is worthy of respect. You're 903 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: asking just that against the very best athletes. I do 904 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 5: think his size limits him a little bit. 905 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: All right, What would two of us have to do 906 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: to really surprise us? 907 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 5: I don't think surprises the word right, but I would 908 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 5: just it's it's more than it would be nice to 909 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: see him, do you know, a real. 910 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: Thoughtful approach, a more thoughtful approach. It's sort of what 911 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 3: I would like to see. 912 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 5: I do think that he there's always a time to 913 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 5: kind of bite down on the mouthpiece, and he's good 914 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 5: for that. 915 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: But we already know that. 916 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, can he go back to what 917 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 5: we had seen a little bit before where you thought, okay, now, 918 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 5: he's starting to put together. 919 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't. I hope that that is not lost. I 920 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: want to see that more than anything else. 921 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: The surprising thing for me is he just doesn't take 922 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: damage in getting it done right, because I feel like 923 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: for him to get it done, he gets beat up. 924 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: You know, dude, that gonfight was a bite and yeah. 925 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 4: I mean to be to be fair, he had him hurt. 926 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: Ye know, It's like he has him hurt and he 927 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 4: could have finished that fight. It's such a roulette type of. 928 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: Game, you know. 929 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 4: And if he can engage you in it, he's always 930 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 4: got a fifty to fifty shot. But the guys who 931 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 4: are little more skilled and know how to fight to 932 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 4: combat that generally win that sort of And also. 933 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 5: Gone by the way against Tuivasa, Remember he's gonna have 934 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 5: fast feet as well, and he's gonna be able to 935 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: use footwork. 936 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: I don't. 937 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 5: I don't think if you can expect Volkov to do 938 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 5: in terms of the nimbleness athletically, what a guy like 939 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 5: Gon can. 940 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 3: Do, Yeah, burning them get quick and nimble. Oh here 941 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: we go. H you only know the White Rappers, all right? 942 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know, touiv Asta is gonna be fun. 943 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: To see you know who else is on this card. 944 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I do. 945 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Menel cops on this card in a flyway about with 946 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Felipe Dos Santos. 947 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: Unfortunately was supposed to be hid France obviously. 948 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 2: Have Yeah, so that's this is where that they got. 949 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: Some bad luck. You know, they got some bad luck. 950 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: That's bad luck rising rising stars. 951 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: We're talking about Carlos Olber, Yeah, and we're talking about 952 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: a very good looking man. 953 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: But we're also talking to guy. 954 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: This one three in a row, including. 955 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: What I know, and this is not it's not like 956 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 4: what's it what's the kid's name that always put on 957 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: the the prelims in England, the twenty one year old kid. 958 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: Uh, you know what I'm talking about. I don't. It's 959 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 3: a little. 960 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: Mohammad he It's it's not like he's him. It is 961 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 4: somehow they have kind of a similar trajector. They keep 962 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 4: getting stuck regionally in these cards. Not that he's I 963 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 4: know that Oldberg is fought elsewhere, but he's always. 964 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: Kind of buried on this card. So this would have 965 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 3: been a nice one for him to kind of boost it. 966 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: And he actually just four wins in a row, three 967 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: by knockout and overall, he's eight and one. We've only 968 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: seen him fall to that knockout loss to Kennedy and 969 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: jek Wu. 970 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 5: I have the recall memory of a lobotomized Chimp'll. 971 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 2: We're taking on Jung dot Un? Yeah, should I mean 972 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: put your put your stock in. 973 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 4: The kind of I'm a little bit more this is 974 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 4: a showcase then, right, Well, a little bit more. 975 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: Interested in the post fight DMS that he'll receive than 976 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: than the bonus or you know, I mean there's different 977 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,439 Speaker 1: kind of bonuses, Luke. 978 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: You know the company does. 979 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 4: There's certain guys that there's just like the little volleys, 980 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 4: you know. I feel like this is one of those fights, 981 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 4: you know, where there's just like, all right, go this. 982 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: We're gonna slide the stake under the door, go. 983 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: Get it, you know. 984 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's pause for a second. We just had 985 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: Matt for Vola in hair spoiler, as we mentioned earlier 986 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: on the On the Room server S Diaries, and he's 987 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: hitting this point, you know, Chuck, where he's he's walking 988 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: into just like the chance of big fame and money 989 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: and if he gets Patty Pilmber, holy shit, and you know, 990 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: Carlos Oldberg, if he can continues the wind streak, He's 991 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be considered even at thirty two as a 992 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: lightweight heavyweight prospect. 993 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 3: But if we stumbled. 994 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: Into a UFC run, if you were just some average 995 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: Joe in your daily life and then suddenly you're Matt 996 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: for Vola and you get hot and you go on 997 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 1: to run, Chuck, you just got to be laying pipe 998 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: all over the country, right, I get just just walking 999 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: just I mean, you gotta you're gonna have a window 1000 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: to be in that shade, be that cool. 1001 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 3: So we know old Johnny Walker in Scotland. 1002 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Olberg's probably got that whole island on lockdown. 1003 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: But if Palmer, if Chuck stumbled into a UFC career, 1004 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you just. 1005 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 4: Felt like your favor back in the early days when 1006 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 4: the when he came over at the UFC and all 1007 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: that was just walking around basically like Hugh Kufner with 1008 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 4: the Jammer road. 1009 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 3: And remember when Strikeforce had shows at the Playboy Mansion. 1010 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 3: That was oh that's right. 1011 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Remember whenever Ry Faber told us he never had an 1012 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: issue with getting ladies so it never mattered. 1013 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, yeah, it didn't really change shit. 1014 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: I still just get asked constantly. 1015 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, like, you think you could have 1016 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: been like a backstreet boy for like an hour? 1017 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: You could have really made that sixty minutes work for. 1018 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: I would have made the most of. 1019 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: You know, those gonna have time to play that right, 1020 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: you can get a nice house in Flora. 1021 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1022 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, speaking of other fights on this card worth watching, 1023 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: I just. 1024 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1025 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: But or am I just addicted to you? 1026 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's where it is. 1027 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: What else do you want to say about UFC two 1028 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: ninety three or Australia or Sydney in general? 1029 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 4: Ever bench I've never been to Sydney, but I nerve nerve, No, 1030 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 4: there's not really much. 1031 00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 3: Else to say about the card. 1032 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I've got to be real at 1033 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: the end of the day. 1034 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 3: Look, listen, uh you know has real volatility. You may 1035 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 3: never see it coming. 1036 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 4: And it's a cheap thing to be like what it 1037 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 4: could turn out to be a good cards because it's true, 1038 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 4: I know it doesn't. It's just it's always in prospect, right, 1039 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 4: It's always like you're always looking at card when it 1040 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: goes in. 1041 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: Does it compel you to watch? 1042 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 4: I don't know that there's a lot on that Besides that, 1043 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 4: time justin Austin lea rematch. 1044 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 5: That's a rematch someone. Yeah, that's that's gonna be someone's 1045 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 5: gonna get laid out for sure. 1046 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: You know, Jamie Malarkey and John macdesty. 1047 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: That's a fun scrap. That's a respectable scrap. Yep. 1048 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: Mike Blood Diamond against Charlie radgot over. 1049 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 5: One other note, one other note that the Aussies put 1050 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 5: me onto if you're just doing the math on this, 1051 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 5: is that if you look at the workload of the 1052 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 5: corner of is he obviously Eugene Bearman. He is cornering 1053 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 5: six fighters on this car, six fighters and my under 1054 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 5: including the main event. 1055 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: Obviously it's a good payday. Yeah, that's a lot of work. 1056 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 3: But that's a lot of work. 1057 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 5: And also they're doing the like inside of New Zealand 1058 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 5: or maybe Australia. The day before they have another kickboxing 1059 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 5: event which he's also cornering a slew of fighters. That's 1060 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 5: so he's doing that and then doing that the next night. Now, 1061 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 5: if anybody can do that, it's Eugene environment make no 1062 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 5: mistake about it. But I I My only wonder is 1063 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 5: BC is that too much of a workload? No matter 1064 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 5: how gifted a coach you are. 1065 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 3: I don't know general him in that gym. Does he 1066 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 3: have a lot of generals that can carry? Sure? Yeah? 1067 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 4: So, I mean it seems like, from what I can tell, 1068 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 4: a well run operation. There's no way to check this. 1069 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how you did, but that's got to 1070 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 4: be nearing a wreck. I remember when Jackson would be 1071 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 4: like making three or four and we were making a 1072 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 4: big deal. 1073 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: Out but six, that's what Jedi Goodman's Twitter for that. 1074 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that guy's got all the stats. It's not Jedi 1075 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: get it for us. 1076 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, you were able to stay awake for this 1077 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: whole show, so I'm happy did it. 1078 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 3: You smelled the microphone a few times. What'd you pick up? Meth? 1079 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 3: I was ready to catch you man, if you film, 1080 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: that's all right. Nose beers, a lot of nose beers, 1081 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: the staff at the setup staff. 1082 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 5: You know, just seeing my life flash before my eyes. 1083 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 5: Forty four has been great. It's been great. 1084 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 3: You've had a great run. 1085 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 1: We did say, Luke, as a tribute to in heart, 1086 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: that if you did perish during this, we would finish 1087 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: the show. 1088 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 3: The show will go on. But I understand, I understand, Yes. 1089 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 2: But I guess that'll do it. 1090 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: For UFC two ninety three and this incredible breakdown of 1091 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: men acting like, man, I. 1092 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: Do want to go to Australia and I hear it's 1093 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: wonderful to get over there. 1094 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: Now that's that flight though, Fuck that flight. 1095 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: That flight is the biggest Would you do that? Could 1096 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 3: you do that? I would have to take You couldn't 1097 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 3: do that, I mean, how do you do that sober? 1098 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 3: That seems like a horrible idea. You don't have to 1099 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 3: get drunk twice though, it's like fifteen hours from LA 1100 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 3: I would. I would bring a lot of edibles. Yeah, 1101 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 3: you go, chuck. 1102 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 2: You're from Colorado, as they say, so you should know. 1103 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 3: A lot about edibles. Edibles. Yes, we're fluent in edibles 1104 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: out there. 1105 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, your old grandpa, Charlie, I want. 1106 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 3: To hear about. 1107 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 5: In twenty fourteen, I did a Glory show as a 1108 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 5: sideline reporter and it was my first time in Denver 1109 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 5: where weed was legal, and I was like, oh my god, 1110 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go wait. When was it, I remember it 1111 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 5: was it was first bank. Yeah, it was the first time. 1112 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna go see 1113 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 5: this is gonna be great. And I went in there 1114 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 5: and I bought just a chocolate bar, that's it. And 1115 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 5: the guy was like, how much do I take? He's 1116 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 5: like just one block and I tasted. I'm like, well, 1117 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 5: this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking. So 1118 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 5: I had the I had, like I don't know if 1119 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 5: I had the whole thing, but I had most of it. 1120 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 5: And then I went to bed and I woke up 1121 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 5: like twelve hours later and I called my wife and 1122 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 5: I was still high as ship dude, the highest ship? 1123 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 3: What is this? Was that in Broomfield? 1124 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 5: Like, yes, I remember seeing first spanker? 1125 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 3: That is he a stun? Was he on that? That 1126 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 3: was it? The next one he was on? He actually 1127 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: fought there? He was not If he was, he was 1128 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 3: not one of the main attractions. Yeah, I think he 1129 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 3: might have been. 1130 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: Do you guys want to close with like imprompt dude 1131 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: duop karaoke type like we'll play different cards and you. 1132 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 5: Know the leaguitars of Cannibal Courts reached out, come on, Yeah, this. 1133 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: Is this is true story because I told her on MKA. 1134 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 5: The long story short is I kind of made a 1135 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 5: joke on the live stream for Spence Crawford and that 1136 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 5: one of the dude the legalto Eric Bruttan was watching 1137 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 5: and then shot me an email and then I showed 1138 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 5: him all the times of like Vin to consorts and ship. 1139 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: He invited me backstage when they come back on my round. 1140 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: You guys have great rock connections. I love how great 1141 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: is this? 1142 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: You have great connections? You got any favorite bands? Chuck 1143 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: just shot him out, Okay, start with start with Ringo. 1144 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll get them on there. 1145 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 5: I'm seeing I'm seeing Pantera in a couple of weeks. 1146 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 5: I'm pretty excited about that. Or what's left of them, Luke, Yeah, 1147 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 5: there's only two that are actually part of that joke. 1148 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 3: That's accurate. Yeah, no, they the drummer got murdered. 1149 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 5: Uh and on stage, and so did the guitars that 1150 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 5: Brown was there for at least wait the guitar is 1151 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 5: dark matter now all right, we'll see if this makes 1152 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 5: the final cut, but uh, until then, for that was. 1153 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 3: Luke Thomas on the far end. 1154 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: That was sleepy right, this is bashfall over here, Chuck 1155 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: Minn and all. 1156 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, be your boy, Chuck. 1157 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 1: We can find your work all over the place. The ringer, Yes, 1158 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 1: Ariel Helwani's. 1159 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 3: Your new you're new working partner over there. Yeah. 1160 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 4: Yes, we do the Ringer Show after every pay per 1161 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 4: view and every Thursday basically now it's kind of it's 1162 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 4: Wednesdays or Thursdays, but we do a previews show. 1163 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: Does that see on your hat stand for Connecticut or 1164 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: kind of it? 1165 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 3: Kind of it's interpretable, Brin, But all right. 1166 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: Chuck will be at the lave factory's got he's got 1167 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: a harder five McGregor at the way and you know 1168 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. 1169 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Connecticut sucks. 1170 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: That's probably where we're gonna end it right here. Maybe 1171 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: even the relationship of those standing. 1172 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 4: At the one, but you know, we like you're doing 1173 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 4: all right, dude, finishing. 1174 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: Then hate get it round, cut me or right back 1175 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: down size. Yeah, I really don't want to come back 1176 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 1: down from this cloud. 1177 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 2: But we're out of here, okay, I mean, just take 1178 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 2: it