1 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the OTP, the Official Titans Podcast. My name 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: is Mike Keith Amy Wells is here. Hello mate, It's 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: time for a little mac in Threemac in three. Not 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: only is it Wells in myself, but it is also 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: the great Jim White from Titans Online dot Com happy 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: to be here, and Titans Radio's head coach David McGinnis 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: coach Mac first macin three of training camp. Right camp, 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: we have multiple ones on the way. Pretty solid, pretty 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: solid stuff, all right, So let's delve right in. UM 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: two roster moves, both in the wide receiver corps, Cameron 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Batson on injured reserve. And then the Titans also waived 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Joe Parker, the rookie wide receiver from Chattanooga, and they 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: bring in a wide receiver who's got an NFL pedigree, 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Tanner McAvoy from Wisconsin is where he originally came out 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: of but mostly he's played a couple of years with 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks big receiver six six two twenty nine. 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: And then they bring in a little guy five eight 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: one eighty eight, Poppy White, a rookie from Ohio. U 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: let's start with McAvoy for a second. You know him 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: from your time in the NFC West. He was a guy. 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: He went to South Carolina as a quarterback. He prepped 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: at Bergen Catholic, which is that fantastic high school in 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: New Jersey, put out a ton of players, and so 24 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: he goes to South Carolina as a quarterback, ends up 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: leaving there after a red shirt year, goes to Arizona Western, 26 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: throws twenty nine touchdown passes, transfers to Wisconsin or goes 27 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: signs with Wisconsin, stays there for three years, and in 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: that time he plays safety. He had seventy plus tackles 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: and seven interceptions. He played running back, he rushed for 30 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: over seven hundred yards. He played quarterback, and he played 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL, he's been a receiver and a 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: special teams player. What can you tell us about McAvoy, Well, 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that always piques your interest 34 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: as a coach when you're looking at people because of 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: his size and because of his multiple athletic skills. He 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: doesn't possess I mean, he's got hight he's a long player, 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: but he doesn't He's not a guy that's extremely twitchy. 38 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: He's not a guy that's extremely blazing fast. But he's 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: a good athlete and he's a good combat catcher because 40 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: of his size downfield and those types of things that 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: he can do. And plus he can contribute on teams. 42 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: And here's what those guys, when you constantly churn the 43 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: back end of your roster, those are the type of 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: guys you're looking for. You're not looking for somebody to 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: come in and start. That's not where you churn the 46 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: bottom of your roster for. You're looking for guys that 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: can come in and specifically do one or two things. 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: If it's a multiple talented athlete that can do a 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: couple of things for you, can be a special teams player, 50 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: can cover on special teams, and then can be able 51 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: to fill in if somebody were to drop out during 52 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: the course of a ball game or during the course 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: of a season. Well, then that's why you always keep 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: these guys around. They'll get a longer look just because 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: of his height, his length, and his multiplicity of things 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: that he can contribute to your team. Amy, you and 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Jim have both had a chance to really watch Cameron 58 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Batson a great deal. One of the winners of the 59 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: offseason program in terms of his effort. One of four 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: players a name top offseason players by Mike Rabel and Staff. 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: Batson's injury and his departure to IR stake through the 62 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: heart for a young man who seemed to have made 63 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: a lot of progress. Absolutely, it wasn't five minutes before 64 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: he went down with an injury that we were saying, man, 65 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: he's really having a good camp. He was someone that 66 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: was consistently making plays and was consistently showing up when 67 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: his number was called, no matter what was going on. 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: And just so heartbreaking to see a guy who put 69 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: in so much work that he was recognized by the 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: entire team for it and then not get the the outturn. 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: What whered? Am I looking for the output that he wanted? 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: The results there? It is cut, Yeah, but it's always 73 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: heartbreaking to see some things like that, And it happens 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: every camp. There's always someone who draws the short straw, 75 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: but it's hard to see that for someone who was 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: recognized for working so hard. Yeah, and I think the 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: outcome for him was going to be to make the 78 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Fitteo three man rollster again because he was doing so 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: well and he's someone who can help you on special 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: teams and he was certainly gonna get a long look there. 81 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: When that first happened on Monday, I thought he had 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: the breath knocked out of him. He kind of landed 83 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: hard on the sideline, and then we stayed down and 84 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: you could see he was in pain and kind of 85 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: tell from what trainers were doing to him as he 86 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: headed to headed inside that it was there was greater 87 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: severity than just how your win knocked out of you. 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: And you hate it for him, as Amy mentioned, as 89 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned, because he's such a hard working guy, an overachiever, 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: someone who made this roster last year and got an 91 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: opportunity and felt like he was going to do the 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: same again. And now I think it opens up a 93 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: spot for a lot of guys to try to seize, 94 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: whether it's Dere's Jennings or whether it's one of the 95 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: newcomers a tier. I still think this team could potentially 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: keep six receivers, but I think Batson was gonna be 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: on in that group if they have kept six this year, 98 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: and he would have been healthy. Anybody's specific you mentioned Jennings, 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: anybody else specific that will benefit from more opportunities that 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: you think has a chance to step up and be 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: the number six. I mean there's several guys who will flash. 102 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: I mean, Callieve Raymond. It seems like he's making plays 103 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: out of every day, Anthony Ratliffe Williams, seems like he's 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: making plays on a consistent basis. I mean, I can 105 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: get to five pretty quickly when you look at receivers, 106 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, from Corey Davis to Adam Humphreys to Taywan 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Tataja obviously a j Brown who hasn't been practicing. But 108 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: that's five. So if there's another spot, it's going to 109 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: have to come from from one of those guys who's competing. 110 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: And I think these preseason games, the practices against the Patriots, 111 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: what we contende to see in camp is really going 112 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: to tell the story there to me, what happens when 113 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: something like this happens? All right, you could and I 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: think Amy and Jim are both exactly right. He was 115 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: looking like he was getting ready to make a move, 116 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: and he was also it was also looking like the 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: way he's being utilized that the staff was looking for 118 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: him to make a move also, And so you when 119 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: when you have that happen, what has to happen in 120 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: your receiver room? Now, they clearly they've brought in to 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: other receivers. But these other guys that Jim has mentioned, 122 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: they'd not only get to move up in the lineup, 123 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: they've got to move up in production and in what 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: they are doing, because they're not gonna they are not 125 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: going to get a job just given to them just 126 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: because Batson got hurt. They still have to perform to 127 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: his level or more or that what the coaches want 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: to see, and if that doesn't happen, you'll see him 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: churn the bottom of this roster some more. Stay with 130 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: receivers for just a minute. Are we going too crazy 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: over the performance so far in roughly a week of 132 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Adam Humphries or is he as good as advertised? I 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: think he's been as good as advertised. I mean with 134 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: that said, though, I mean Corey Davis has been really good. 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: I think Corey Davis been the most consistent guy as 136 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: far as the wild factor goes day in and day. 137 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: But Humphries is what impression most about him is just 138 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: his ability to get opened so quickly at the line 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, which is going to make him such a 140 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: target in the red zone and in third and short situations. 141 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the cornerbacks, defensive box getting tired of I 142 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: think hearing about him or seeing videos of him, or 143 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: he got some of that, didn't you. Yeah, I even 144 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: have me. I'll work in the house and I'm getting 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: some of that. So some of the defensive backs not 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: amused by how much praise he's Yeah, that happened to 147 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: be in the vicinity of cracombs of the day shooting 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: a video and he was even giving me grief about 149 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: putting to me videos and photos out of receivers making plays. 150 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: But Humphries has been I mean, you can't deny the 151 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: fact that he has been a consistent guy in practice 152 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: making catches getting open. And that's a good thing. I mean, 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna make the corners better, Uh certainly gonna make 154 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, the receiving corps better. It's gonna have Mike 155 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota better. And I think it's a positive development 156 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: all around. But I think, you know, the work he 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: did this offseason, the familiarity has with Marcus Mariota already 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: is a great sign. Piggybacking off of what Jim said, 159 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I think that Corey Davis and Adam Humphries have turned 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: out to be what we wanted them to be so far. 161 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you have Adam Humphries, who's the consistent veteran. 162 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: He can lead those guys a little bit. He's able 163 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: to get open in ways that just don't seem normal. 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's ridiculous and seen anything like what he does. 165 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that Titans have had a player like that, right, 166 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: So he's been making I mean maybe back to even 167 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Derek Mason. That's the guy. Yeah, that is exactly the guy. 168 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: But look, John Robinson knew exactly what this guy was 169 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: and he was with him at Tampa Bay. And if 170 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: you watch film, and if you watch film with your 171 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: eyes open, you know what he is too, because I 172 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: mean I'm serious, you can see. I mean, this guy 173 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: has gotten especially nowadays in the National Football League with 174 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: the way way offenses are deployed and the way that 175 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: that that you're restricted defensively as to how much contact 176 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: you can make, you know, from people coming at you 177 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. It's it's ready made. I mean, 178 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: he's got a little sting stick move that is, it's 179 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: legit and it's gonna make everybody covered him better, which 180 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: is what you're going to go through. But he is 181 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: a when you start to look at the number of 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: his catches, it's the percentage of catches last year that 183 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: went for first downs. This is a this is an 184 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: un ultimate chain mover. I did a thing for Beneath 185 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: the Surface, you know, for the Titans here about a 186 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: month ago, and and Dirk Cutter had lined him up 187 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: in an eleven personnel, which is three white outs, but 188 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: he had put him outside, but had put him as 189 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: an outside element off the line where he they couldn't 190 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: get his hands on him. He looking, he run a 191 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: nice post pattern and caught him by the forty six 192 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass on the throw and catch in the 193 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: end zone. So he's a multiple talented receiver, but the 194 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: strength of his hands and the quickness of his feet, 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: he's exactly what you want. And then we still have 196 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Corey Davis, who's got the cut, who has the catch radius, 197 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and who is able to make those big splash plays 198 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: and do some of the things that we've seen him 199 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: do before in previous years. So the two of them 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: together are a combination that I think is just going 201 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: to be lethal if they can keep going and continue 202 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: to make progress. Should we be talking about Taj Sharpmore. 203 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Taj has been very consistent, and 204 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: not just in camp, but throughout the off season. And 205 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, I know, it just seems like the chatter 206 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: that here from outside the building is people tend to 207 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: dismiss him in conversations about the receiving chord. I've heard 208 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people speculate that he might not make it. Man, 209 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised of us not the case, because he's 210 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: been good, and he has been out there, he's been healthy, 211 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: he's consistently made I think he's comfortable now at this 212 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: stage of his career. But he's probably a type of 213 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: guy that's fine with not having people talk about him 214 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: because and I think the Titans probably fine with that too, 215 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: because I think he is going to be a someone 216 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna bele to help his team. Jim, I'll start 217 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: with you, and I want to work all the way 218 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: back around. Do you notice a difference in Mike Vrabel 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: in training camp number two from how he was in 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: training camp number one? Well, he's as we all know. 221 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's about a confident a guy as you're 222 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: ever gonna find, and that's how he deals with the players. 223 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: That's how he deals with the media, you know, I 224 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: think in every approach that's That's the thing about him 225 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: I was most impressed with is he seemed like he'd 226 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: been a head coach for five six years when he 227 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: started last year, And from that standpoint, I think I 228 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: still see that swigger about him. But you know, I 229 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: think his confidence level and uh, and just how he 230 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: relates with players just another year, he's just better and 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: every aspect of it. I think players respect him just 232 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: because he's consistent. You know what they're going to get, 233 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: and all the newness is kind of worn off, while 234 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: this is the kind of guy that they know and 235 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: they know exactly what to expect from him. Mike Vrabel's 236 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: confidence level looks the same to me. The way the 237 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: team responds to him looks different to me, really, so 238 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: I feel like he is the dominant presence out on 239 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: the field. He is the same guy doing similar things 240 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: to what we saw last year. I feel like the 241 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: team is leaps and bounds from where it was last 242 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,119 Speaker 1: year at this time because they know what is expected 243 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: of them. The expectations are already there. Practice is faster, 244 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: everything's moving more efficiently. Guys seem to know where to do, 245 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: where to go, and what to do and what's coming next. 246 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: So it seems like everything's firing on all cylinders, not 247 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: so much because Mike Vrabel has changed, but because this 248 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: team knows what's going on now, I think the big thing, 249 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: and at a little bit it dovetails off of what 250 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Amy said. Look, this group of players that have been 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: with him, they understand now how he's going to react 252 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: to good times and to adversity, and so they know 253 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: that he's got their back. They know they can trust him. 254 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: They know that he also is going to be always 255 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: very honest with him. He's the first to take everything 256 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: on himself if it doesn't work, I mean, and so 257 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: those types of things. Once players know that, well then 258 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: you know they're all in. They're all in. And until 259 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: a head coach proves to you during the course of 260 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: sixteen weeks of a National Football League season, the up 261 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: and downs of how he's going to handle it, it's 262 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: all lip service. Until he proves how he's going to 263 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: handle it, They've got total confidence in him. And look, 264 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: I've been a first year head coach. I've been a 265 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: second year head coach. There is a difference just because 266 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: you've got your cleats more in the ground. You understand 267 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: a little more of what's going on with everything that 268 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: surrounds the job, not related to football. That's a big, 269 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: big part of it. That when you first start, that's 270 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that weighs on your mind. You 271 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: have to learn to compartmentalize that, you have to learn 272 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: to allocate your time. He knows how to do all 273 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: of that now. I love Mike Varabel as a head coach. 274 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: About three hours after we taped last week's OTP with 275 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: John Robinson, we learned that Taitora one has a four 276 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: game suspension pending, and that's been the dominant news story 277 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: with the Titans since that time. It's been a lot 278 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: of talk about it. Dave, as you have watched this 279 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: team practice, how is the offensive line and the offense 280 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: adjusting through what they're working on in camp knowing that 281 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: this four game suspension to Lawe, the left tackle is looming. Well, 282 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: just today when you and I and Amy were standing 283 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: together out there, we saw the different combinations that they're using, 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: not only on the two edges, with what they're doing 285 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: interiorly too. So they look, you have to adjust, and 286 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: they've adjusted this has happened to me before. It happened 287 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: to me. When I was a head coach of the Cardinals, 288 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: my starting center was that had just acquired from another 289 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: team in free agency, was suspended for the first four games, 290 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and clearly we had gotten him because we needed a center. Well, 291 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: then you have to adjust. This group is already adjusted, 292 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: and now they've got to work like that. They're going 293 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: to work. This preseason is going to be big for 294 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: this offensive line because they are not only going to 295 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: work through schemes and plays, they are going to work 296 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: through combinations and that's extremely, extremely important. But they've already adjusted. 297 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: You've got to move on. You have to move on 298 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: because once the initial shock of what has happened comes on, 299 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: that's in the past, that's behind you. You don't deal 300 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: with that. You deal with what's ahead of you. And 301 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: what's ahead of you is getting the best seven or 302 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: eight active on Sunday and then figure out how those 303 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: seven or eight figure in to being able to work 304 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: all those different positions, not only his position, but the 305 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: other positions also. You'd like to just have a one 306 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: for one trade, but all of us sitting here at 307 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: this table and all of our listeners to the OTP. No, 308 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: it's not going to be like that. They're not going 309 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent healthy for four weeks. It 310 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't happen. So they're already making adjustments. We awesome 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: of it today. We've seen it all throughout camp. All right. 312 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: I've got two quick ones for you. The first one is, 313 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: is it just gonna be Dennis Kelly at left tackle? 314 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Think you don't think will not be that? They will 315 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: try somebody else out there, just to know, because you know, 316 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: if if Dennis if if Dennis Kelly gets hit by 317 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: a car, Okay, well then you know you've got to 318 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: have that. Well, I'm just saying, it's it's what it's, 319 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: it's the truth. Sure. I mean, if something happens, you've 320 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: got to make You've got to make contingency plans. Nobody 321 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: wants anybody. And believe me, as a as a as 322 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: a head coach, you're like a mother hen to all 323 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: your players. You do want none of them touched, You 324 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: don't want them hurt, but you do know that you 325 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: have to make contingency plans for it. And they're doing 326 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: that right now. So he will be I think he 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: will be the guy to start out there. Obviously, hopefully 328 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: he plays all the way through to the super Bowl. 329 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: You know at some position Taylor will be back, but 330 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: you've got to make contingency plans. You can't just say 331 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: he's going to be there for these first four weeks 332 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: and we're good, because you don't know, all right, So 333 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: we're seeing them do different things today, Corey Levin was 334 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: the center and Ben Jones moved to guard. Ben Jones 335 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: has twenty nine starts at guard in his career, thirteen 336 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: at right guard, so he's done that before. We saw 337 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: Nate Davis, the rookie from Charlotte, get a lot of 338 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: work at right guard on Monday with the first team. 339 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: We've seen Pom Field in there. We've seen Jamal Douglas 340 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: playing different spots. We've seen different things. From a coaching standpoint, 341 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: if they had to line up and play Cleveland tomorrow, 342 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: do you think the experimentation is trying to figure out 343 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: what they'd like to do or do you think they 344 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: already know what they're going to do. So I think 345 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: they know what they're going to do. Trying to make 346 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: contingency plans for something that you know, So this is 347 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: just to get looks and get everybody familiar with things absolutely, 348 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: And you talk to me about the left tackle. I mean, 349 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: one of the best left tackles out here on this team, 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: I've seen him play it for sixteen games is Roger Saffold. 351 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean saf he started his career there. Well yeah, 352 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean I've had games with him in there. I 353 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: mean he's athletic and to do it and smart enough 354 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: to do it. So you've got some some chances and 355 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: some combinations out there. But to answer your question here, 356 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: I think they know already what they want. They're just 357 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: trying to there's they're just trying to back up their 358 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: bets with a lot of different looks. Good answer. Yeah, 359 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: And you can't argue with Kach. I mean I agree 360 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: with him. I do think. You know, if there is 361 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: a silver lining to having your starting left tackle suspended 362 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: to four games, it is you get a chance, extended 363 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: chance in training camp to see what other guys can do. 364 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: I know, initially when the news about Taylor came down 365 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: the pike, there are a lot of questions about, well, 366 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: I guess you work Lawe and you know in camp 367 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: and and then somebody else and you get close the 368 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: season where if you do that then you're wasting all 369 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: these reps that other guys should be getting. Taylor's getting 370 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: mostly work with the back ups, and I think that's 371 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: going to continue. Obviously, have to work some so he'll 372 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: be ready when he comes back. But uh, they're looking 373 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: at a bunch of different guys and uh, you know, 374 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: the only thing that can I guess concerns me a 375 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: little bit is that you know, you want these guys 376 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: to gel, You want them to have chemistry playing next 377 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: to get to one another. You want them to be 378 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: able to know what they're doing where it's almost second nature. 379 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: And eventually we'll have to get the point where we 380 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: lock guys in and then roll. And until then, you've 381 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of moving pieces that they're gonna 382 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: have to figure out. Figure that out. Now, they'll get 383 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: to that, they'll get to that quickly. But this is 384 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: when you when you experiment, This is the time to 385 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: do it. You don't you don't start experimenting week three 386 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: and four of the preseason. This is when you start. 387 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: You start it right now. It'll be you'll see some 388 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of it, I think against the Patriots in practice, and 389 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: then they'll they'll start moving towards that the other the other. 390 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about Taylor getting reps. Taylor needs 391 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: to get reps for two reasons. First of all, he's 392 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: gonna be gone for a month. He's not gonna get 393 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: any football stuff for a month as far as just 394 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: working on it. So that's important that he's able to 395 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: do that. Okay, that's important there. But also he's got 396 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: to take these reps because if he doesn't take these 397 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: reps out here, somebody else's legs are getting those reps 398 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: that are going to have to play, and so that's important. 399 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Numbers of reps and legs are important in camp. I 400 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: mean that is just something that's fact. How much will 401 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: he play Taylor in the preseason games? Probably not much, Okay, 402 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: probably not much. He may do some just to do 403 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: what I you know what I've said, just because of 404 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: reps on legs. Reps on legs are huge in camp 405 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: for a lot of different positions, for every position, it's important, 406 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: and I mean you all see it. And that's why 407 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: you bring so many receivers and so many dbs into camp, 408 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: not only because there's a lot of numbers of those positions, 409 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: but those hamstrings and those legs are the ones that 410 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: get torped the longest every day. Are we seeing Jack 411 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Conklin reasserting himself? I think so. I think Jack has 412 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: said himself that he feels like he's better than he 413 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: was pre injury, So I think that we're seeing him. 414 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: He looks a little bit slimmer, he looks like he's 415 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: more muscular. He I mean, he looks fantastic. And I 416 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: think that we're getting the Jack Conklin that we all 417 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: expected to be the continuation after or the All Pro 418 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: season his rookie year, so he has high expectations for himself. 419 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: I think he's feeling good, getting back into the groove, 420 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: being back on the field with the guys, and that 421 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: can only be good as the preseason continues. Jack Conklin 422 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: was not healthy last year. Nope, I mean, you know 423 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: fact fact. I mean just you know from my eyeballs, 424 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: which I mean that's it's not the no all to 425 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: be all, but he wasn't healthy last year completely and 426 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: was trying to play when he wasn't and then by 427 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: the time he was shut down, it was time to 428 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: be shut down. He is healthy now, and I agree, 429 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: I agree with Amy Wells. He looks a lot better 430 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: and he looks like he looked before. He didn't look 431 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: like Jack Conklin. I like his attitude too, I mean, 432 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: right out of the gate. I mean he says, hey, 433 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm this team starting right tackle. I want to proved 434 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: again that I could be an All Pro player and 435 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: be one of the best tacklings in this league. And 436 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's tired of hearing about how he played 437 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: last season he didn't meet expectations. I'm sure he's tired 438 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: of hearing the child about whether he could get bumped 439 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: inside to play goard. You know, he wants to prove himself. 440 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously I've been great if he could 441 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: have worked throughout the off season, but to kind of 442 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: get healthier and to get his mind right to start camp, 443 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: I think it's based on off seam so far. I 444 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: think it's paid off. All right. I want to go 445 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: to tight end, and Jim, I want you to start 446 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: with this. Delaney Walker is Delaney Walker, and we won't 447 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: know until he plays in games, but he sure does 448 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: look like the guy he's been the last six years here. 449 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: So he's he's on the football team. Johnny Smith is 450 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: on physically unable to perform right now, coming back from 451 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: his knee injury. But he's going to be on the 452 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: football team at some point. He's obviously he was playing 453 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: really well when he got hurt last year. Outside of that, 454 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: what's going on at tight end? Who's grabbing you, who's 455 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: taking a step forward? Well, I mean Michael Prude obviously 456 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: as the conference of the coaching staff, you know they 457 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: love him. He's getting a lot of opportunity. He's got 458 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: a lot of work this offseason. But I have to say, 459 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Furture is a guy that catches by in practice. 460 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: He catches everything. Once again, I think he caught nineteen 461 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: out of twenty targets last year and he played. He 462 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: knows he's got to get better as a blocker. He 463 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: talked about that after practice the other day, something that 464 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: he's worked on. But his strength is going to be 465 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: catching the football and he's getting open. He's doing that again. 466 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: So when you do the math at that position, I mean, 467 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: as Johnny Smith can be ready when the season starts, 468 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. So when I do the math, now 469 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: I get to talk. Count Delaney Walker, I count Michael Prude, 470 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: I count Anthony Furture. Is three with a question mark 471 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: about John knu and then you'll wonder if there's a fourth. 472 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't help but notice Ryan, he was 473 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: a little bit who's worked at fullback in addition, you know, 474 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: to tight end. He's a versatile guy who can do 475 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: a couple of things. I'm curiously how he plays out 476 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: during the course of the preseason. I think the tight 477 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: end position is one where everyone sees a lot of 478 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: question marks. Delaney Walker, he's coming back. We don't know 479 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: where he's going to be. John new Smith, what's his timeline. 480 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: But as you start to go down the list, Michael Pruett, 481 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: as Jim had said, has had a great camp. Anthony 482 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: Ferster has had a great camp. Parker Hessey's a guy 483 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: who kind of came out of nowhere but has been 484 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: making some plays and grabbing people's attention in practice. Ryan 485 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: Hewett Colewick like, there are guys who are consistently showing 486 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: up in practice, and the more you think about it, 487 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: the more you're like, oh, well, this could be okay. 488 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: Guys like I think the Titans have plenty to choose 489 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: from in that group. It's just seeing who rises to 490 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the top as we continue through camp. Yeah, big part 491 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: of this group is and again when when the Patriots 492 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: come in here to practice that that the people, you know, 493 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: the guys at the end, you know cole Hood, you know, uh, 494 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Brian Hewett, Parker, Hessey, cole Wick, those guys when you 495 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: let's watch him against the Patriots. Let let let's check 496 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: them out a little bit when they get somebody in 497 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: a different you know, colored helm, went different colored jersey 498 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: across from him, because we know what these other guys 499 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: are gonna do. Anthony Ferser was a big part of 500 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: this offense last year. I mean he you know in 501 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: calling ball games now, Mike you you know, he made 502 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays, you know, catching the football. 503 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: But these other guys, the way this offense is going 504 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: to be set up, and I'm going to tell you 505 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: somebody else is going to take some of the load 506 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: off of that. If he's healthy and back and doing 507 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: things he needs to be is a j. Brown is 508 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: going to take some of that load off because of this. 509 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: He's not a tight end, but he's going to take 510 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: those between the number throws and that's that's what you're 511 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: looking for with you know, from that position. David flew 512 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: Ellen gets some of that in terms of lining up 513 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: as the offset and with the added weight having the 514 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: chance to place him fullback. Yeah, to me, flus a 515 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: little bit different than that. I mean he doesn't. I don't. 516 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: I don't think he quite you know, has you know, 517 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: has enough water in his bucket as far as being 518 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: able to sit up in there all the time and 519 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: take all those people and be able to take be 520 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: able to take big time chips off off of offensive 521 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: tackles and do those things. He can do that. But 522 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: I think what what his value will be as more 523 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: as as more as a move guy, you know, a 524 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: move guy, because he's more when when you when you 525 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: watch him with his blocking and stuff, he does better. 526 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: He does better on the move blocking rather from just 527 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: stationary you know what you look for. Uh Yeah, I 528 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: think his added weight has helped him. But to me, 529 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: these guys, I really want to see them against New 530 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: England's people when they come out here. That's gonna be 531 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: interesting for me to watch because you're gonna want to 532 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: see that. And then, as I said, A J. Brown 533 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: gets back just within the scheme of offense, catching balls 534 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: between the numbers and the and and those those highest catches, 535 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: those quick throws. He is that dude. We have only 536 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: been through five training camp practices and coach Mac wants 537 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: to go up against somebody already. He's tired of these practices. 538 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: He wants an opponent. I like that. I'm not tired 539 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: of him. I just ready to see some activity. Well, 540 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: I like it. I've seen a lot of activity. But 541 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: I do know this. It's different when you go against 542 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: different people because because once you once you once you 543 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: get once you get comfortable as a player as to 544 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: who you're going against and what's going on. You can 545 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: compete all you want. But look if I if I'm 546 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: going against Jim Watt every day in practice, he's a receiver, 547 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a cover player. I know what he's 548 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: going to do. I know his splits, I know how 549 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: he lines up, I know how he runs his routes. 550 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I know how this. So even if I'm not trying 551 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: to mentally, I can cheat it. You know, mentally I 552 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: can do and what I want to do and what 553 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: I always what I wanted to do as a coach, 554 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: what these guys want to do, and what the players 555 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: want to do, they always about. You know, it's getting 556 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: close to the time where they're going to want to 557 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: line up against somebody else and test all of these 558 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: things that you know that they've done, and it's just 559 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: it brings another dimension into your evaluation. So this entire 560 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: OTP so far, we've talked about offense. The whole time. 561 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: We've talked about offense, and that is where the majority 562 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: of the questions are. Jim Wyatt, what do we know 563 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: about the Titans defense a weekend? I mean, I like 564 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: the look of the secondary, even though certainly they're battling 565 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: I guess receivers and some of these drills that are 566 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: where they're at a disadvantage. I think they're scrappy. You know, 567 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: I've noticed, you know, Logan Ryan ken Vacaro being very 568 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: active even in blitz situations where they're coming after the 569 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: quarterback and guys are making plays on the ball. I'm 570 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: at when I look at the defense, the secondary jumps 571 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: out to me. And it's not just the guys I mentioned. 572 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: I think. Which makes you feel good about that knock 573 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: on wood is that depth is good too. I think 574 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: Ty Smiths had a really good camp. I like, you know, 575 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: the looks of Leshaun Simms. I think they're deep and 576 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: continue with a secondary, you gotta make a Monty Hooker 577 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: and Dan Crookshank. I mean, the secondary gets my attention 578 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: when I look at the defense as a whole. Look 579 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: this defense when I every practice I've been to, which 580 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 1: is all of them, which is all the guys have. 581 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: The thing I see immediately this is a confident defense. 582 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: This is because a loud talking defense is a confident defense. 583 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: As a coach, if you're out there and you're and 584 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: you don't hear anything on defense, that's a problem. They talk, 585 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: they communicate, I mean they know. Look, I love you, guys, know, 586 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: I love Dean pieces Why why why do you like 587 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: what he does so much? Well, first of all, because 588 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: he knows what the hell he's doing. Well, yes, I mean, 589 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: and that's and that and he's he's he's proven that 590 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. And he's a tremendous communicator 591 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: and teacher. Okay, I mean I watched one of these 592 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: first red zone drills they did out here, and the 593 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: and the the offense was running a little combination you know, 594 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: nine ball stacked three men on one side, shortcut on 595 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: the other, running a back line on him, trying to 596 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: grab with that one of those stick routes inside grab 597 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: the rat player that's down playing the low hole so 598 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: they can throw behind him. And so Dean Piece went okay, fine, 599 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: and so then you know, once the once the drills over, 600 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: he gets everybody over there and that little mid walk 601 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: through that they do, which is brilliant. You know, they 602 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: give him a little rest and talk to him say Okay, here, 603 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: here's what they're doing, and here's how you combat it. 604 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: Because you're gonna see it again in team. So here's 605 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: what they're doing. You know, dut dut, dut, dut bam, 606 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: everybody got it, let's go. That type of thing, to 607 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: me is invaluable when you have veteran players, and not 608 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: only veteran players, even younger players, but your defensive coordinator 609 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: can make adjustments on the run like that. He's a 610 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: he's a really good progression teacher. He's got excellent assistant coaches. 611 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: I watch all those drills. I just I believe in deanps. 612 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: I knew guys that worked in the league when Dan 613 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: P's was the coordinator at Baltimore. They absolutely love him, 614 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: not only but just because he's a good person. But 615 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: he knows ball, and you can know ball, but if 616 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: you can't communicate ball to the players, it's there's no good. 617 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: He can communicate it to his players and they trust him, 618 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: and I love what he's doing. This is a very 619 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: confident defense out here. Coach. Does it seem to you 620 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: that there's less stopping everything and teaching and there's more 621 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: fine tuning and refining things as this defense work. Damie. 622 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: It's a good point. And it comes with this being 623 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the second year of what he's doing, okay, because when 624 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: you when you put new defenses in, I mean when 625 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: you put a whole new defense in, I mean I've 626 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: done this a couple of places. You know, everybody has 627 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: to be coach nearly every play because it just looks 628 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: different on the field than it does on a white 629 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: board or on the screen. And so you get them 630 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: out there. But now they can play and free. Now 631 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: now he's able to start adding. It's like legos, he's 632 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: able to start adding on the basics. And where you're 633 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: able to add to the basics, then you've got something. 634 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: But you can't add until you have people that understand 635 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do from the from the basic 636 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: part of it. He's got that. He's got that in 637 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: spades right now with his guys and they want you 638 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: can tell they want more. They want more now. And 639 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: when you get a defense wanting more, you're you're in 640 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: the You're in a groove that you want to be 641 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: in as a coordinator. Okay, wrap up this edition of 642 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: the OTP with the player that you are most interested 643 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: to watch, the guy who needs to make a move 644 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: before we get on that plane to Philadelphia next Wednesday 645 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: for the Thursday night preseason game. I'm gonna let Jim 646 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: White start because I'm sure he'll have like nine Jim 647 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: Wahitt cheats every time we do this, so just go first. Well, 648 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm gonna go with two, just because he's 649 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: going to cheat every time. Because game these guys. In 650 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, we've seen Nate Davis and 651 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: we've seen Corey Levin both work inside with the first group. 652 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: So I think those two, I think, as coach Mike said, viously, 653 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: they're going to have to settle in and pick the 654 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: group that they're rolling with into Cleveland. But this is 655 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: the time when you start, when you continue to look 656 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: at some of the young guys, and both of them 657 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: are getting opportunities. I think they'll continue to get opportunities. 658 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: So this is a big week I think for them 659 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: to prove hey, I can do this and consider me 660 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: before you make a final decision. I don't think he 661 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: cheated there. I know he used too amy, but I 662 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: think he makes a pretty good point. I just don't 663 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: like fudging the rules. All right, well you get one then, okay. 664 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Mine is someone we've already talked about. But it's Darius Jennings. 665 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: I think that before Cameron Batson went on injured reserve, 666 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: he was gunning for his job. So while you to 667 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: see a guy go on, I R I think if 668 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: this is Darius Jennings, he dodged a bit of a bullet. 669 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: So it's time for him to step up, prove that 670 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: he deserves to keep the spot that he earned last year. 671 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: He had a great year last year, but it's time 672 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: for him to make the next step and really earn 673 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: and keep the spot on his on this roster. DeAndre 674 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: Walker for me, really yeah, this this next week, you're 675 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: going to see him start start to make a move 676 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: because you know he was he was he had he 677 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: had the growing injury, you know, coming in work through 678 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: that during the OTA, so he missed some of the 679 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: OTA work on the field. You can see him now. 680 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I went back and checked my 681 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: notes again after I've vetted him watching him, you know, 682 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't start for three years, but he 683 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: played a lot of ball in the three years. He 684 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a starter at Georgia because they rolled their defense 685 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: like most professional fronts do. I mean, they roll, they 686 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: roll their defense. This guy, you know, as I said, 687 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at my notes. I love 688 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: his get off. I like the fact that even if 689 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: he's six two, he plays longer because of his arms. 690 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: He plays long. I've seen him make place in space 691 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: on special teams. And the other thing I like is 692 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be do this in this multiple front. 693 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: At Georgia, he was really proficient at running a lot 694 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: of te and ET games. And I'll explain that by 695 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: saying te games are when a tackle in the end 696 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: are lined up together and the tackle goes first and 697 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: the incomes underneath. You have to have a feel for 698 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: how to set it up, how to rip through a gap, 699 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, how to be able to feed a shoulder block. 700 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: He's been able to do that really well at Georgia. 701 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: I saw some of it out here today. I'm looking 702 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: for him to make a move next week if he 703 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: can really come on. Boy, that adds a lot to 704 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: that outside linebacker corps. Well, and that's why, that's why 705 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: they drafted him, because because he had he was a 706 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: productive player. He was a productive player. But his first 707 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: three years he just didn't have the number of reps 708 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: because they got good players at Georgia in Casey, nobody's checked. 709 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean the defense, especially on defense, they got good 710 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: players and so he was rotating in with a big group. 711 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: But this guy, this guy, I mean, I'm gonna watch 712 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: him next week. I would look for him to make 713 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: a move next week because he hasn't had the same 714 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: amount of time on the field as these other guys 715 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: have had. Now he's catching up a little. All right, Well, 716 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: let me ask you about one more before I give 717 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: mine Roberson the outside linebacker from sam Houston State. What 718 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: have you seen from Derek Roberson so far? He got 719 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot of raw skills. He's got a lot of 720 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: raw bend edgibility. You know, he means he needs more 721 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: strength at the POA or point of attack. He needs more, 722 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: he needs more of that. He did not you know, 723 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: he didn't play at Georgia. Okay, he didn't, you know, 724 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: he didn't. He played down there where he was way better, 725 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: way better just stepping on the field than most everybody 726 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: he played against. He's got some really nice skills as 727 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: far as movement and closing. He just needs and you 728 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: see it. You'll see Mike Vrabel working with him a 729 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: lot with his hands, and a lot of those guys 730 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: that come out of college, you know, are very are 731 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: very deficient as defensive players using their hands because they're 732 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: able to get away with just speed and jazz play 733 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: a lot of times in college, you got to use 734 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: your hands in the National Football League on defense, he'll 735 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: learn that. He'll learn some knockback. He's a little further 736 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: away to me just because he's got a little further 737 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: to go physically to catch up. Yeah, it's funny. Y'll 738 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: praised the day by Rabel for breaking up a fight. 739 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: We kind of had a first skirmish in practice to 740 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: day in Rabel pointed Roberson out for having the maturity 741 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: to step in there and break him up. So he 742 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: totally see this is audio, but I can just describe 743 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: the look on Amy Wells's face right now. I'm not 744 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: interested in anybody who's here to break up fights. Lane 745 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: for that, I mean, I appreciate the maturity and we 746 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: want a good contributory. Sitting here at the at the 747 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: at the flame table is a rough group. It's tough crowd. 748 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: It's tough crowd. My guy that I want to see 749 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 1: in the next week before we get on the plane 750 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia's Calif Raymond. Calif Raymond is probably to me 751 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: the guy who benefits the most, unfortunately from the Cameron 752 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: Batson injury. And I say unfortunately because I agree with 753 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: all of you. Cam was doing a great job and 754 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: was in great shape to make the roster. But Raymond's 755 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: the same kind of player. He has returnability as Batson does, 756 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: and he's probably the second fastest guy on this roster, 757 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: or outside of Batson. The other thing about Calif Raymond 758 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: two that people don't realize. This is his fourth year 759 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: out of college. He was with Denver, he's been with 760 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: the Giants. He had a chance to get some playing 761 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: time there. I mean, he's got some experience. As coach 762 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: likes to say, he's got a little water in his bucket, 763 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: and so far he has been double dog, dangerous and 764 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: one on one drills. Gonna be interested to see if 765 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: he can keep it up, because there's always the guy 766 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: who flashes that first week and then he comes back 767 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: to the pack and it's offense and defense. I mean, 768 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: you'll see those guys and maybe it's a nick, maybe 769 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: it's guys catch up with him, maybe you know, whatever 770 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: it is. But can he keep it up, because if 771 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: he does, he's I think he's an interesting player to watch. 772 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: And the fact that he's not like a true rookie, 773 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: that he's not twenty two years old, I think would 774 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: help this ball club right now, especially if he can 775 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: be a returner. Great point. Did you know that Leif 776 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: Raymond has the highest Madden Speed rating on this team. 777 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: I did not know that he does. There you go 778 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Cameron back center, guys who have run in the four 779 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: three's and Calif Raymond. You know, he's from Atlanta but 780 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: played at holy Cross and so it really kind of 781 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: a circuitous route to get back to this part of 782 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: the country. I hope our listeners really appreciate the wisdom 783 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: around the MAC and three table. I just I've got 784 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. We got anger, we got wisdom, 785 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: we got Jim Wyatt breaking the rules. Yeah, we've got 786 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot going on, all right, So the team back 787 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: on the field on Thursday, we'll have a chance to 788 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: see that practice. The nine thirty practice on Friday is 789 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: open to the public. And then want to make sure 790 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: everybody knows about the kickoff party Saturday night Nissan Stadium 791 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: sponsored by a Pinnacle. What is the pup rally thing? 792 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: The pup rally thing is the coolest part of the debt, right, 793 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: it's bright. I can tell you who it's brought to 794 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: you by. It's brought to you by a pedigree and 795 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: also the Nashville Humane. So what happens there? You can 796 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: adopt a pup? Heck, yes you can. So it's up 797 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: on the concourse outside Gate one, outside of Gate one, 798 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: and they just fill it with puppies. Like I don't 799 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: even know how to describe it. You just take one? No, 800 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: I mean you have to go like, you have to 801 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: get approval to take it. You can't just can you 802 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: take it into the game? No, Well maybe I would, 803 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: But there's puppies everywhere, and so you can walk up. 804 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: They're all available to be adopted. There's people there to 805 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: help you go through that process. But if you come 806 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: you'll see me whimpering in a corner somewhere because I 807 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: want to take all the dogs home. So if for 808 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: no other reason, come for that, but it's to help you. 809 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it is an overwhelmingly cute experience. Amy, Do you 810 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 1: know how all in I am on the pup rally. 811 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I went last year, Coach. My 812 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: parents were there and had to like physically walk me 813 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: out of there because I on it all of The 814 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: only person at this table that lacks dogs more than 815 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: you do is you. Yeah. I will be right in 816 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: the middle of the pup round. Okay, So it's great. 817 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: It's free to get in, it's free to park. There's 818 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: all kinds of kids stuff, reduced price concessions, Um jac 819 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: Ohen's playing Jake's autographs. Yep, So I mean, what do 820 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: you want? And you could get your new best friends 821 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: then you can act. It's going to be a very 822 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: competitive practice too, Mike fiding up the teams and uh, 823 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna go out and not gonna be tackling. But 824 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be a competitive deal. I know if 825 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: a lot of fans were upset last year because it 826 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: was more of a situational practice. Well, that's what I 827 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be again, and then they come 828 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: out with all this and it's like, what, it's savage 829 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: because they got to draft their own guys and their coaches. Yeah, 830 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: and their coaches. So this is every man for himself. 831 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: I've been through this before in my years in the league. 832 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: It'll be rocking now. This is this gets it's training 833 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: camp and you're always looking for a little extra juice 834 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: as you dip into it. This is extra juice. This 835 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: might be the fights we're looking. It's good stuff. So 836 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: you can actually you can come to Nissan Stadium and 837 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: get something to eat and watch the practice and everything 838 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: cheaper than you can go to the movies. The whole 839 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: experience could cost you fifteen bucks if you work it right, 840 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: and you could get a puppy. Wow, you're pushing the 841 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: dog thing. Well, just don't take the ones that I want. 842 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm all on Amy Will side 843 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: about the dog. Well, that's a great thing. I hope 844 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: this is going to become a tradition, I think. I 845 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: mean this is last year. All of the dogs were adopted, 846 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: and then people were so interested they had to find 847 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: more puppies to get a dog well, which is really great, 848 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: but I think Raybel wants the whole thing. I was 849 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: kind of going beyond thing. Oh, I'm very locked. I 850 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: know you really are, and I think it's great, but 851 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: I think Rabel would like to see this become an 852 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 1: every year deal. He's all He and John Robinson are 853 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: all in on this thing. Yeah. People said today he 854 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: wants thirty thousand people there that was shooting high. Yeah, 855 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: I heard him. I think that's shooting high. It's free 856 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: the whole thing. I mean, if you'll come out and 857 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: get food, that's your only Yeah, then your park downtown basically, Yeah, 858 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: come hang out after the fireworks, walk over the bridge, 859 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: enjoy Broadway. You're welcome, and I think you probably want 860 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: to take your new dog down on Just call an 861 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: emotional support animal. No, no, gosh, I will say that. Uh, 862 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: And we're gonna have it on Titans online. And I'm 863 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: sure fans need to pay attention, I guess to the 864 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: Department of Transportation because we have some road closures. I know, 865 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: the exit ramps. The only way you're going to be 866 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: able to get into Nissan Stadium is via downtown. And 867 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: that's really, really important because the ramps are being worked 868 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: on this weekend, which obviously they have to do in August. 869 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: I mean this is you know, you do those sorts 870 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: of things during the summer. But yeah, if you're trying 871 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: to come and get off, that's not gonna work. So 872 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: you'll want to make sure come from downtown. That's a 873 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: great point. Jim, take a lift, go help me, help you. Wow, 874 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: And I want people there. I want him to hang 875 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: out with us. It's going to be an incredible night. 876 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: You can get a dog. What more could you want 877 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 1: in a Saturday night? You want to fight, Mike Well 878 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm not fighting. This is macin three and I'm not 879 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: in charge of this. You are. But if you don't 880 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: end this pretty soon, she's got a forearm everyone that 881 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: us right in the head. She is fired up for 882 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: the Mac of Mac and three Titans Radio's head coach 883 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: Dave mcginnison, for the great Jim Wide, if Titans online 884 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: dot com, and for Amy Wells, who maybe has gone 885 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: over the line. My name is Mike Keith and this 886 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,479 Speaker 1: is the O t Peer