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Speaker 1: And welcome to No Dunks, a basketball podcast on the

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Speaker 1: Athletic Podcast Network. I'm your host for today. Trey Kirby

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Speaker 1: and joining me. He wishes he were podcasting outside in

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Speaker 1: the cold today. It's task metal.

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Speaker 2: I do not. It is super cold in Atlanta, but

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Speaker 2: glad to be here online with you guys.

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Speaker 1: The man making the magic happen today. Eshawa kid, esh

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Speaker 1: what's up? Man? Are y'all doing doing all right? Our

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Speaker 1: second snow day in Atlanta in the year twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: in the yard Skeets and JD though they are in Paris.

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Speaker 1: I think they're taking the Da Vinci Code tour of

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Speaker 1: the Louver today. The y'very exciting of that.

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Speaker 2: That's inside information. Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Big Dan Brown fans, I know they Tom Hanks heads.

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Speaker 1: They gotta see it all. I know Skeets was posting

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Speaker 1: some Mona Lisa stuff earlier today. I think he's actually

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Speaker 1: here in the stream team right now. But we are

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking you through everything that's happened in the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours in the NBA and tests. I

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Speaker 1: got to call on my good friend the Southern lawyer.

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Speaker 1: We got ourselves a trade, kind of no players trade

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Speaker 1: going down in the middle of the season. The Phoenix

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Speaker 1: Suns have traded their unprotected twenty thirty one first round

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Speaker 1: pick six years in the future. Twenty thirty one unprotected

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Speaker 1: first round pick. It's going to the Utah Jazz. In return,

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Speaker 1: the Jazz are sending the Suns the least favorable first

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Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty five between Cleveland and Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Then it's the least favorable first round pick between Cleveland, Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: So basically, an unprotected first round pick in twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: one from the Suns going to the Jazz. Three first

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Speaker 1: round picks coming back to Phoenix so that they can

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Speaker 1: split them up whoever they want. Tests There are no

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Speaker 1: players involved in this trade, and this is strictly assets

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Speaker 1: we're talking here, So who won the trade? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's even the right question to ask. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 2: My initial thought was all, this is gonna be boring,

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Speaker 2: But then when you actually think about it, I think

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Speaker 2: this is the most interesting, boring trade you can get

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Speaker 2: from the Utah perspective. They are saying, oh, Phoenix, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna stink in twenty thirty one, so we're willing to

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Speaker 2: give you three draft picks. Now, those draft picks aren't

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Speaker 2: going to be all that great, as you said. This year,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Cleveland, which is probably the thirtieth pick,

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Speaker 2: and in the other two years it's probably just guessing

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Speaker 2: I mean, you are giving away three trade with three

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Speaker 2: at some point instead of this perspective twenty thirty one

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Speaker 2: draft pick. But it's a trade. It's it's it's risky,

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Speaker 2: but it's a risk willing to take because they still

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Speaker 2: have eleven picks over the next seven years. So they're saying,

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Speaker 2: all right, here's here's three and we'll see if you

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Speaker 2: really really stink, which is a possibility. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: if you're matt Ashpia and the and the Suns, are

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Speaker 2: you a little insulted like these guys really think we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be a little bit like I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's sort of motivation for the Suns in the next

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Speaker 1: literally in the next six years, to be like, we

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Speaker 1: can't let this pick go the way it went for

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Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets with the Jason Tatum pick, which that

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Speaker 1: was a Danny Ainge trade as well. He seems to

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Speaker 1: have done okay betting against teams in the future, and like,

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Speaker 1: For the Jazz in twenty thirty one, assuming we still

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Speaker 2: I sure feel like it is going to happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's Matt Ishbia. He's willing to mortgage his future for

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Speaker 2: how good they're going to be for a long period

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Speaker 2: what would be their big three of Kevin Durant, Devin Booker,

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Speaker 2: all that to be said, I find it fascinating. I

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Speaker 2: it's a great move for them. They go from only

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Speaker 2: So they own Yeah, they're they're twenty six, they're twenty

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I think Beal actually could happen, Trady.

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Speaker 2: I think this is legitimate that this Phoenix Suns team

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Speaker 1: I think it is going to happen, just because it

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Speaker 1: definitely feels like the reporting has changed. In the past

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Speaker 1: lot of the reporting around this is that the next

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Speaker 1: scenario would end up with Beal in Milwaukee, Butler going

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Speaker 1: With regards to who's going back to the Heat, maybe

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Speaker 1: the Raptors get involved here, but Gambadoro reported that Be

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Speaker 1: said basically, the Heat are getting more serious about making

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Speaker 1: not get hurt. If I'm being quite honest, he's not

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Speaker 1: Will it be before we actually get to the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline sometime in the next fifteen days. I kind of

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Speaker 1: They brought him back, got him on the court, and

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Speaker 1: he is definitely out there. But I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I think about this. On one hand, I think the

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Speaker 1: As for the Suns, I got to give them a

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Speaker 1: getting more picks, which would then allow them to go

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Speaker 1: get Jimmy Butler. Do I think it's smart, No, not

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Speaker 1: at all. I think by twenty thirty one this team

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Speaker 1: But to me, it feels like this almost guarantees Devin

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Speaker 1: Booker won't be a son by twenty thirty one. Kevin

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a very smart move, but

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Speaker 1: I do love that Ishbia did it because in today's NBA,

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Speaker 1: all of the gms are smart. They're all planning for

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Speaker 1: the long term. You don't see a guy double triple

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant trade was huge, the Bradley Beal trade was huge,

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Speaker 1: a big time deal from an assets standpoint as well.

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Speaker 1: Apparently Ishbia and Jimmy Butler have some sort of an

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Speaker 1: since he's so late into his career. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: clearly Matt Eshbia is not thanking long term here. He's

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Speaker 1: thinking short term. And I'm maybe a little more positive

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Speaker 1: I think he becomes their point of attack defender. He

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Speaker 1: becomes their best perimeter defender, for sure. He's definitely better

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, the Sons have zero depth and

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Speaker 1: zero role players outside of Booker and Durant, and I

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Speaker 1: guess Butler would be there as well, So this doesn't

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Speaker 1: really address that. I think it makes them a very

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Speaker 1: dangerous play in team. Maybe they get to the sixth

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Speaker 1: seed in the Western Conference, but it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: a trade for Butler would actually make them a contender. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you agree with that? Time.

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Speaker 2: As much as I love the story of Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 2: I love as much as I love him being mad

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Speaker 2: at Miami's front office for not giving him a longer

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Speaker 2: term deal than what he has. He just has a

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Speaker 2: player option for next year. And he said, I took

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Speaker 2: you to the finals twice. Pay me a little bit

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Speaker 2: more until I'm thirty eight, like other players get you

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Speaker 2: look at what Jimmy does. He can't stay on the

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Speaker 2: the drives are there occasionally, but can he be a

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Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right nailing it. It might help.

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Speaker 1: Bradley Beal just like Chris Middleton, it ain't twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: just so done with Jimmy Butler that he'll literally take

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Speaker 2: an expiring deal and hopefully a pick attached. But that's

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Jimmy Butler. He didn't play basketball

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Speaker 1: Suns themed basketball shoes. Test. This is Jimmy Butler's leaning

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Speaker 1: JB three. Apparently they've made three signature shoes for Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 1: and just like his hair earlier in the season, these

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Speaker 1: Would you wear these tests?

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Speaker 2: I would wear these in a heartbeat, tray. I think

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Speaker 2: the colors are all right, Yeah, they look pretty agree

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Speaker 2: and I like how we're supporting him. If you're with

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Speaker 2: us on YouTube, how we're we're kind of right beside

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Speaker 1: Geah out side on.

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Speaker 2: Tie them there for a sec. Try and play like that, man.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get fined. Man. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: Anthony Simons scored twenty four, DeAndre eight and went for

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Speaker 1: suns or the Heat got crushed on the glass in

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Speaker 1: this one by the Trailblazers. And if you're getting beat

430
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Speaker 1: on the glass by eight and maybe not the greatest look,

431
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Speaker 1: but I've been impressed with Khalel where maybe things change

432
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Speaker 1: once the scouting report gets out on him, but it

433
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: looks like he could be an impact player going forward

434
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Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat. They're getting a nice vie huge.

435
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: He does look bigger than seven feet and so when

436
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: he dunked from the dotted line on a pick and

437
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: roll there, that was pretty. And then he blocks shots

438
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: for sure. I mean he was just doing some things

439
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: that made me say, say, Khalil, where did that come from?

440
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: Over and over because because yeah, he's like he's giant,

441
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: and so I was, I was like, who does he

442
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: remind me of? The Anthony Davis is the best comparison

443
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: he'll ever get, I assume, but that was like Darius Baisley.

444
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he's way bigger than Darius. I don't know

445
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: out there, I mean, there's not a really good comparison

446
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: he leads the team in blocks per game, which is

447
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: like under one because the Heat don't block any shots.

448
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: But he was blocking shots. He was at the right

449
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: spot at the right time, just sitting beside the offensive rim,

450
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: catching an air ball and dunking it, which was pretty funny.

451
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, the three point shot, even though he's not

452
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Speaker 2: going to shoot a lot of them, he's shooting a

453
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Speaker 2: great percentage so far this season. Even though he hasn't

454
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: made a tiny he's shooting forty percent from three. So

455
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: I think if you're playing with Bam, you want a

456
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: guy to stretch the floor. So it is. They're good minutes,

457
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: even though it ain't gonna be all that great for

458
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. I don't think this year. Well, I

459
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: love the Denver Nuggets motor in this baby. I mean,

460
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: they got it going from the get go. Russell Westbrook

461
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: was brought in to get the champs motor going, and

462
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: he absolutely does. They had eighteen fast breakpoints, eighteen fast

463
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: breakpoints in the first quarter, and that's why the Nuggets

464
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: are a contender in the Western Conference. I mean for

465
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: a few reasons. First, I think Jamal Murray is back

466
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: to that guy who was Jokic's number two and got

467
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: him to the finals and won that thing. And I

468
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 2: think he's even better at times. And he doesn't have

469
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: to just say Jokic, come for a pick and roll.

470
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: He'll do it multiple ways. He'll say no pick, He'll

471
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: do it a dribble handoff with Jokic. And you gotta

472
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: go stay out on Jokic right now with the way

473
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Speaker 2: he's shooting the three. So Jamal Murray's back. I think

474
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Speaker 2: the second reason is that Aaron Gordon to the bench

475
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: has really helped their non Jokic minutes. He runs everything

476
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: off the bench. He is their guy.

477
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Speaker 1: He's like the.

478
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: Number one guy he was in Orlando, but he can

479
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 2: play against second units, so that's improved who they are.

480
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: And he's got to get everything going in that second unit.

481
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: You saw Julian Strawler yesterday out there working dribble handoffs

482
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: or pin downs. He had five threes in this game.

483
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: So he's the next guy in terms of offense on

484
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 2: the second unit, and Aaron Gordon can make him work.

485
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: And then third Russell Westbrook and Christian Brown are good

486
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: with Jokich and Jamal Murray making more plays and taking

487
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: more shots, and they're making great cuts off the ball.

488
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: They are just feeling it with Jokich and Jamal Murray.

489
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: I mean, the attention is on Joki Chim Murray. So

490
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: if these guys are cutting the way they're cutting, Christian

491
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: Brown on baseline cuts, Russell Westbrook, that motor has not

492
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: stopped and that's why they are number one in assists.

493
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 2: Westbrook and Brown used their skills and run fast breaks too,

494
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: and that's why they're number one in fast breakpoints. So

495
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: if you watch that game yesterday, literally you know the

496
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: eyes are on Jamal Murray. They're on Jokic of course,

497
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets keep finding guys thirty nine assists yesterday

498
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: and number one in the NBA and assists. I mean,

499
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: it's it's a beautiful thing to watch. I think there

500
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: are some worries. You know, Aaron Gordon on the bench

501
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 2: is a problem because what's going to happen with the

502
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: defense of starting five. Aeron Gordon is such a good

503
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: starting guard forward I should say beside Yokic because you

504
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: can guard anybody. But they're they're a middle of the

505
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: pack defense right now. But over the last ten games,

506
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: they're top seven, and Gordon can still finish games if

507
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 2: they changed up. So the defense is a bit of

508
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: a worry and the bench depth is still a bit

509
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: of a problem. Aaron Gordon's running things over and over.

510
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: He's trying to get Julian Strader going. Jeandre Jordan is

511
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: they're big to just dunk and defend as much as

512
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: he can. And Peyton Watson, I think is comfortable being

513
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: more of a corner shooter. You know, he's a little

514
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: below average shooting the three, but he is an incredible defender.

515
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: So it's Gordon, Dondre, Jordans, Strather, Andon Watson. I think

516
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: just the fact that he gives them more depth is monstrous.

517
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon just playing off the bench right now because

518
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: he's on a minute restriction, I think has to be

519
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: that going forward, because he gives them the strength that

520
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: they need, and so Gordon will be able to finish games,

521
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: I do think. And this team, even though their last

522
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: and three points attempted, I mean they were towards the

523
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: bottom when they won the title, but their third and

524
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: three point percentage this season pretty strong. And I will

525
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: take a sip of water. I got suggested here on

526
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: the stream team to take a sip of water. Very

527
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: pasty today. The Atlantic cold really dries things up. I'm

528
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: not sure where Trey is right now. I think he

529
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: has some Internet problems. But just a quick restart and

530
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll be back. Yes, I've had to use

531
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: moisturizer all over my body the last a couple of

532
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: weeks because of the dryness here in Atlanta. I'm one

533
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: of those men that gets a little older and just says, hey,

534
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm not going to moisturize. I'll be fine. Anyways, I

535
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: do think the Denver Nuggets were I think you can

536
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: put them into that category. I know that Russell Westbrook

537
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: came in to replace Bruce Brown in a way. Nicola

538
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Jokic wanted Russell Westbrook. He signed off on it. He

539
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: loved the deal to get Westbrook going and or to

540
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: get this Nuggets team going, I should say, because that's

541
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: what they like. They just lacked that. I loved him

542
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: two years ago when I was in Denver's arena to

543
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: watch this team in the NBA Finals and watch them

544
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: in practice, and Bruce Brown was just their guy to

545
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: keep things going. And after you win a title, things

546
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: can slow down, that is for sure. But I think

547
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook's that guy. For a reason to help them

548
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: out strictly, because I mean he honestly, his energy cannot stop.

549
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: And I think he's totally comfortable being third or fourth

550
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: or fifth in any game in terms of shots attempted.

551
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: Because Michael Porter Junior has also worked extremely well beside

552
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: Nikola Jokic, and uh, those those patterns are I mean,

553
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: they do give me a little bit of worry defensively

554
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: for sure, but offensively they've got it. Is anybody else here?

555
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Is there?

556
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: Is there a Trey Kirby in the house if I

557
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: if I click you over, maybe perhaps maybe not? Hmm,

558
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: very interesting. Let me just see here, okay, mm hmm,

559
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: no good so far. Let's move to the Knicks Nets game,

560
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: because it was incredible to see them go all the

561
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: way to the end of this basketball game. The Nets,

562
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: I can't believe how hard they play for Jordi Fernandez.

563
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they go and trade their starting point guard,

564
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: Dennis Shrewder, Sorry, you gotta go. Camvin Thomas hasn't played

565
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: in weeks, and still it comes down to the final

566
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: shot against the New York Nets. New York Nets, the

567
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: New York Knicks, Over and over and over, they continue

568
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: to produce I mean, I wonder about Cam Johnson, how

569
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: incredible he looks right now if they actually give him

570
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: up at the trade deadline. How can you give this

571
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: guy up? You still have to pay NBA players. This

572
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: guy is an incredible, complimentary player on both ends. Obviously

573
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: offensively the three point shot, but he was working it

574
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: into step backs creating his own threes yesterday and that

575
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: role has expanded with and a shrewder gone. So I

576
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: don't see why you would trade him. He is just

577
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: an incredible player period. On the defensive end, he is

578
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: such a good player. I mean, I can see why

579
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: any sort of contender would want him on the wings.

580
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: So it is yes, Ziggie on the stream team, keep

581
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: good players, solid concept. It's so weird to see this

582
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: team in all these rumors. I know they're just rumors,

583
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: but to possibly be trading anybody on their roster in

584
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: terms of depth though, I can see it. This guy

585
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: is needed on a lot of teams, but just looking

586
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: at the roster, looking at who they pay, I think

587
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson at the deal that he's got right now,

588
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: would be extremely good to keep around. Period. Let's move

589
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: on to the Mad Raptors game. Why the heck not,

590
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: because they had their City edition floor. Of course I

591
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: was into it. It's like you look at it now

592
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: thirty years later, it's like Backy Jean's being back. Are

593
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: they great? Eh, it's more about nostalgia. Really. I don't

594
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: think baggy jeans are all that great, and this court

595
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's all that incredibly good either, But

596
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: I was into it. And Raptors get off to a

597
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: slow start down double digits. Coming into this game. They

598
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: were zero and twenty seven when trailing by ten plus points.

599
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: Now they're one in twenty seven. Shout out to my

600
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: girl Kieks on Twitter for that stat right there, one

601
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: in twenty seven when trailing by ten plus points. This season,

602
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: they look like more of an NBA team. To watch

603
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Scotty Barnes doing he was doing yesterday. He is a

604
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: threat in the middle of the floor, especially against his

605
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: own Just give him the ball, watch him go. He's

606
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: got such great passing abilities. Eight helpers in this one,

607
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: seventeen points, eleven boards and eight assists and an incredible block.

608
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: But when he is their guy, their main two guy,

609
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: you can see how many assists that guy creates. Twenty

610
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: nine assists for him excuse me for the Raptors and

611
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: the one on the Grady Dick dunk, as Matt Devlon said,

612
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: a dunk by Dick on that catch in the corner,

613
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: and then he drove in beautiful stuff. Now were the

614
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: Raps doing a little trade showcase here with Kelly Olinik

615
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: looking beautiful out there. He was a point guard as

616
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: a kid, because so you could see him. He had

617
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: a big little pick and roll with Bruce Brown, and

618
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: so those two guys doing a pick and roll together,

619
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Speaker 2: I could understand why people say, yeah, somebody go get

620
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: Bruce Brown. It is an interesting contract, it's a monstrous contract.

621
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: But he did look good. Ten points in the first quarter,

622
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: fifteen points, five rebounds and five assists. He needs to

623
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: be on a great team. And when he is on

624
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 2: a great team, he can be that complimentary guy because

625
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: he is that motor and when he's the tertiary offense,

626
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: when a play doesn't work on one side, play doesn't

627
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: work on the other, the dude can drive and make

628
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: things happen. So fifteen to five and five for that

629
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: guy in that game. And then Kelly Olink had four blocks?

630
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: Four blocks? Is he showcasing over the next couple of weeks.

631
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be sad to see Kelly Olinick Goh. He's

632
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: been traded three times in his career, so I don't

633
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: think he really wants to be dealt. That being said,

634
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure a championship team says we could use some depth,

635
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: and he is a little slow defensively get him in space.

636
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: I totally get that. At the same time, he can

637
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 2: add a lot as a ball handler, playmaker, assist and

638
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: again those blocks, he shows that he could do it

639
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: on both sides. Uh, and then there's Uh, there's Bruce.

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Speaker 2: So I think Bruce would be a guy that can

641
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 2: get dealt and that would make a little bit more

642
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: more sense. But he, you know, he is showcasing it.

643
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: I think we got our guy. TK gonna come in here.

644
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: If I'm seeing these chests, we've got tech difficulties, but yeah,

645
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Speaker 2: I think, well we'll give it a shot. I'm watching

646
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Speaker 2: I'm watching it in the background here. Let me add

647
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: at Oh, let's see what this. What do you think, TK?

648
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Speaker 2: You think this will work? Which one are you popping

649
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Speaker 2: in on me town the phone?

650
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Speaker 1: Okay? Oh yeah, can you hear me again?

651
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then we can Oh, I was gonna say

652
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: add your other mic when we ed, it doesn't matter.

653
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: We can system overload. My computer literally is like you're

654
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: doing too much.

655
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh it's all right, we can hear you totally fine.

656
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well, what are you talking about the Raptors.

657
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Congratulations to them, Yeah, we were basically I basically killed

658
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: the last two games of a pretty regular night with

659
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: Knicks Nets just coming down to the wire. If you

660
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: got anything to add for that game or the Raps Magic,

661
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: I would.

662
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: Say good for Jalen Brunson's clutch player of the year

663
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: case the win last night against the Nets. Didn't have

664
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: a great game, scored eight of the knicks last ten points.

665
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: Basically two man game with him in towns every single time.

666
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Like to see that. As for the Raptors, I was

667
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: more concerned. On the other side of things, The Magic

668
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: of lost six of their last seven. Their one win

669
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: was pretty ugly against Philadelphia with no EMBIID. They're now

670
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: two and seven without Jalen Suggs in the line up there,

671
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: dropped down into the play in tournament. Not great stuff

672
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: for them. And then of course the Lakers smoked the Wizards.

673
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I said, those are the last two games.

674
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: But the Lakers did play the Wizards.

675
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Laker smoked the Wizards. Big dunk by Lebron Anthony Davis,

676
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: don't call me kalel Ware twenty nine points, sixteen rebounds,

677
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: big time oop for Lebron on Jonis Valanciunas as well.

678
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Sorry to leave you hanging there, buddy, but I know

679
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: you were cooking on the nuggets.

680
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was cooking on the nuggets I have. I

681
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: really feel like they're ready. I mean, maybe I'm just

682
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: buying the Russell Westbrook could get a title narrative, and

683
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: I definitely worry about their defense and their death is questionable,

684
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: but I do like the dropping of Aaron Gordon to

685
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: the bench to just run everything through him because Julius

686
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: Strawther is working pretty well beside him. They they need

687
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: to be really good. So it is questionable because beside

688
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: those two, you're gonna be relying on Peyton Watson and

689
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan. If ag or straw having a bad game,

690
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: and sure there's such a young guy that could happen,

691
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: but I think they could just push Aaron Gordon to

692
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: the starting lineup or at least closing lineup. So there's

693
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: lots of options. I think Michael Malone is working it

694
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I'm a little hesitant to buy into Westbrook as

696
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: a playoff guy, but this is the best he's looked

697
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: since the OKAC days, so maybe he will prove me

698
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: wrong come postseason time. But that's still a ways away.

699
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: We got trade deadline to tackle, and for us tasks,

700
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: we gotta go step on the beach. We've got that

701
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: shit shut down. Blah blah, you've done that.

702
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, let's do this beach thing. I got the

703
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: first one here, Trey.

704
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Speaker 1: Brethren, the boys are on the beach.

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Speaker 2: Helped me settle a debate I recently had among some

706
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Speaker 2: of my sick friends regarding who the most exciting player

707
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: in the league is today. We cannot reach a consensus.

708
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: One said Steph because of his prolific shooting, outbursts and

709
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: generational change he's had on the game. One said Ant

710
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: because of his athleticism, cockiness and vicious posters. And one

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00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: said Wemby because of his defensive prowess and unrivaled shooting

712
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: touch at his size, unrivaled shooting touch. Well done. I

713
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: personally think it's Jos simply because the Westbrook slash de

714
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: Ro slash Baron Davis, slash Steve Francis archetype is so

715
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: fascinating and it's incredible to see someone under six three

716
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: consistently provide all time highlights and creativity above the rim.

717
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: Curious what y'all think? Cheers that is from Rahm is

718
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: the most exciting player in the league today.

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Speaker 1: This is a tough question, but I think Rams nailed

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Speaker 1: four of them. Ant has got to be in the mix.

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00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Steph Curry has got to be in the mix. His

722
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: hyes made are the most exciting to me, like a

723
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Curry takeover, a Curry flurry, super exciting. Wemby must see TV.

724
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Speaker 1: And then for me, John Morant is the most exciting

725
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: player going right now. I definitely agree with what Rames says.

726
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Just the standard like Westbrook, Darren, Derek Rose, Baron Davis,

727
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Steve Francis like the young guy or the small guard

728
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: who can fly and who is fearless driving into the rim,

729
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I think is super exciting. That's why I had Job

730
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: Moran a little bit ahead of Anthony Edwards from a

731
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: watchability standpoint, just because I feel like Jah is so

732
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: much more focused on being in the lane, whereas Anthony Edwards.

733
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: We know has developed his three point shot and is

734
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: going to it as a weapon this season and can

735
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: be one of the most frustrating guys to watch in

736
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: clutch time, I think, but for me, I would have

737
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: John Morant as the top guy.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Yeah, as a basketball geek who consumes

739
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: basketball every single night, I think you're right. In terms

740
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: of the most exciting player making the most headlight head highlights,

741
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: the most exciting poster worthy type moments, it's Jean rant.

742
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: I did find this question interesting because all the guys mentioned, Steph, Wemby,

743
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: jaw Ant, they're at a different point of their career

744
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: where there's all this parody happening in the NBA, and

745
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: that there's no one really taking the NBA by storm

746
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: and winning or being the number one dominant team and

747
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: having the better best player. There's just so many good

748
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: players like Steph is older, Wemby's super young and hasn't

749
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 2: achieved a lot. Jaw also coming off that injury season

750
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: and off court issues and at being pushed as more

751
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: of a league leader and actually being the face of

752
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: the league. Like, You've got all these guys at different

753
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: points and lots of parody. When I was having conversations

754
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: with guys this weekend who aren't super geeks like us.

755
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: They're wondering, is there something not as uh not as

756
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: tantalizing about the NBA right now where we're like there,

757
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: they weren't as excited like game to game night tonight

758
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: about things, And I wonder if parody is a bit

759
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: of an issue with that or like you know, the

760
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: stuff and Lebron thing at the end of their careers.

761
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: But also it's it's in the same same light. All

762
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: these guys are incredible players, and I think Jaw for us,

763
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: is probably the most talented, leading the league in highlights

764
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. But he's also playing these

765
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: games which aren't nationally televised quite a lot, and you know,

766
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: has had those other issues. So we're just at this

767
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: this point where there's so many like Jokic wasn't even

768
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: mentioned here, and I know he's air quotes exciting, but yeah,

769
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: I mean being able to watch him do so many

770
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: things like the old heads mightst look at that and

771
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: say that dude is ridiculous at what he can do.

772
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know, there's just it was it was

773
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: hard to really pick one, but being a geek watching

774
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: it every night. I think Jaw's a good pick.

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00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think it was kind of interesting that

776
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: Ramez didn't pick shake Yo, justs Alexander or Jokic. None

777
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: of him or his buddies had the top two MVP

778
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: candidates in the mix here, though, I would think that

779
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: they are a little bit lower than these guys on

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00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: maybe the straight up entertaining scale. You gotta have a

781
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: you gotta have a palette to watch it, Like, do

782
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 1: you like watching shake Gil just Alexander's herky jerky game

783
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: and the angles that he creates to get his finishes inside.

784
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: Do you like the way Jokic just can grab a

785
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: board inside of four defender and put up a sloppy layup.

786
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I do. But they are, you know, more subtle games

787
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: than some of the guys like Jaw or Ant and

788
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: then certainly Wemby is an outlier as well as for

789
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: the maybe not identifying with common or casual fans quite

790
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: as much. I think part of it is that every

791
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: NBA player is really really good right now. You know,

792
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: you can see a highlight on Twitter of Grayson Allen

793
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: doing a layup that only Michael Jordan could do in

794
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties, and everybody's like, oh, I thought this

795
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a good layup. It's because everybody

796
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: is good Michael Jordan introduced it. So now a Brian

797
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Scalabrini up and under reverse maybe isn't as special as

798
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: it was thirty years ago when there was five guys

799
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: capable of doing it. If the tenth man is as

800
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: good as the you know, tenth best player in nineteen

801
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: ninety four, maybe it rattles off differently. But I got

802
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: a couple of other names that I would throw in

803
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: the mix for very excited players to watch. I think

804
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball the most unexpected guy out there. You never

805
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: know what he's going to do. Highlight passes, one foot threes,

806
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: shots that nobody thinks are good and that often go in.

807
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: He's got to be in the mix for me. Janis

808
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Ante Chacunpo is a guy. I know not everybody loves

809
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: the just run and dunk style of game, as James

810
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: Harden called it, but I personally love the way he

811
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: can dominate just dunking. It's very much like shock to me.

812
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: And then Zach Lavine is a guy I think that

813
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: is underrated from a watchability standpoint. Deep threes off the

814
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: dribble obviously still runs in full court and can dunk

815
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: really well. I don't know if there's anybody else you

816
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: would like to add.

817
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think you hit it home and you said

818
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: maybe there's just too many good NBA players for those

819
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: people who are just casually watching and say, what's going on?

820
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, maybe it's it's just a kind

821
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: of they wash each other out, like it's just too

822
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: much goodness happening in today's NBA. It was interesting I

823
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: heard Cam Johnson and Sue Byrd on a podcast. It

824
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: was on the young Man in the Three Podcasts, and

825
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: they're basically talking about the whole idea that there's too

826
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: much three point shooting in the NBA, and Cam Johnson

827
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: was basically saying, I love three point shooting and I'm

828
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: almost and only that's the only skill I want to

829
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: show at times, like he's basically saying, that's my thing

830
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: and I want to do it. And I think there

831
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: are a lot of young people who obviously heard shooting

832
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: like that, and people are saying, well, they shoot too

833
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: much like that, Like I'm talking about kids in their

834
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: rec leagues and stuff. But I think kind of like YouTube,

835
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: YouTube YouTubers in general, Like, there's just so many different

836
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: things that are popular, so many splendid different direction and

837
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: so I think there's just a bunch of different ways

838
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: that people play in a bunch of different ways that

839
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: people are popular, like you said about dunkers, et cetera.

840
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: And maybe I'm just hanging out with the wrong people

841
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: who just say, well, NBA and all that exciting, or

842
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: what's the problem with the NBA, But it's I think

843
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: you do bring up a good point that maybe everybody's

844
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: just too damn talented in today's NBA.

845
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: We need to get players worse so that us common

846
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: men can identify with the players. Moving on, our next email,

847
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: it comes to us from Philip who says, greetings, no dunkers.

848
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: With d Lo back on the nets now and boy

849
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: and Bogdanovich back as well, it got me thinking, what's

850
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: your all second stint team.

851
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I immediately think of hardcore role players

852
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: when I think of guys who went back to the

853
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: same team, But after looking at it, it's clear the

854
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: one who is the best one is Lebron. You almost

855
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: forget about that he went back to Cleveland. So if

856
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm taught. If I'm starting a five, it's Lebron, and

857
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: then there's a couple oldies that I'd put on the team.

858
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett went back to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Scottie Pippen

859
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: went back to the Chicago Bulls just basically to retire,

860
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: play a few games and retire. And then the other

861
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: two I'd have in my starting five are Trevor Reza

862
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: with the Houston Rockets, because that guy was incredible and

863
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: an NBA champion with the Lakers and was able to

864
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: bounce around and try and win championship. People have said, Okay,

865
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean this guy is perfect. And my last starting

866
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: five to go with Lebron, KG Pippen and Trevor Reza

867
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: is Anthony Tolliver because he'd just be a good three

868
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: point shooter. You just hang out and you shoot that three.

869
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: So that's my starting five. And we should throw in

870
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: Steve Nash as it's being thrown in here, because it's

871
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: similar to sort of Jason Kidd. He's literally his second

872
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: stint with the Phoenix Suns was that incredible, incredible run.

873
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: So shout out to everybody here in the stream team,

874
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: I totally you know, skip my mind, just skip my brain.

875
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: There no good here in the stream team wait to

876
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: throw it in there. Moving on here, let's jump into

877
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: the pick payoff. Last night we had Toronto hosting the

878
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: Orlando Magic at plus three and a half. They covered,

879
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: so Skeets did all right, Tests did all right. Trey

880
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: and Esh got that one wrong. Skeets now up to

881
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: three and nine, So we'll see if he's gonna have

882
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: to have to do this January pick them payoff. Sure

883
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: looks that way. Tonight's game. It's bosting at the Clippers

884
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: plus nine and a half, Clippers at home. That's a

885
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: lot of points together. So Skeets, Tray and myself are

886
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: taking the Clippers. Ash were you forced to take?

887
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 3: I was in the doc early, but I had to

888
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: pick Boston.

889
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: You know I'm a Boston guy. I gotta pick Boston. Yeah,

890
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: to win by ten or more. You've got a three

891
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: game lead here in Skeets, as we were getting closer

892
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: to the end of January, feel confident.

893
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yeah, but not really. But I think

894
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 3: he mentioned a couple of weeks ago. Uh, the way

895
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: my record has been going over overall, haven't won a

896
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: month but I haven't lost some month, so I'm just

897
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: trying to kind of.

898
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: Stay stay mid. If I stay mid, and.

899
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: I've never lose, yeah, yeah, I always brag about that

900
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: in years past, when I didn't lose for like four years,

901
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: that was my biggest accomplishment.

902
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: Ye lose it.

903
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: You had to be on the cold for the last month.

904
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: But hopefully, hopefully, hopefully I won't fall down to below

905
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: skeets in this one.

906
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I don't know about you living in

907
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: the South ash but when I came down here, I

908
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: was hardly wearing a jacket, like I was trying to

909
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: tough it out every single winter. But now because they

910
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: had to do those shows, I re learned how to

911
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: dress again, and so that's almost a blessing in disguise.

912
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 3: You know, I'm always cold, I'm always freezing, so I mean,

913
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: they always say that the cold down in Georgia is

914
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: different than other places because of the humidity. But I've

915
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: heard a lot, so maybe that's what it is.

916
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: There's an eye roll for me. I mean, it has

917
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: gotten really cold, so that'll be what determines if we

918
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: will be doing a show tomorrow together in the factory,

919
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: We've got some guests coming in from an even older

920
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: country that are coming from Canada, so we will have

921
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: them on a Friday show. That's the plan anyway, and

922
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: hopefully we will be together tomorrow. But for now, Clipper Brose, you.

923
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Speaker 1: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

924
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: love you guys awesome, thanks.

925
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: For joining us. And remember cold is just a mindset

926
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: figure that out last week. Just all up here. It's

927
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Speaker 2: all up here, esh,