1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church, 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scrugs. 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Play rounds. Here. We are rolling with you. 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: Here at the headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys at Prisco, Texas. 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: All right, s WBC Podcast Center. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: You know the crew. 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison's in the house, Barry Church is here, I 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: am Newie Scrugs. 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: We've got cuts, We've got Ceedee Lamb. We can get 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: Dalvid Cook potentially. 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: Now there's a whole lot to get to here, Smorgas board. 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: That's the word of things. Man to loatch. 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: The boys are now back home here to finish off 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: training camp. We now know that there's no more preseason game. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: The play play is done. We're now getting ready for 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: the real thing. Let's start with number radio him back. 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: He gives you super bag. 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: This show called this numerous. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: Times, especially if you look at the last We said 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: the deal will get done. 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: Weeks ago, and it did. And I think you know 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: one of our arguments was thirty five was the number. 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: We started looking at Justin Jefferson's contract and started saying 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: to look, you try and fit the deal somewhere in 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: between that. There's so many people that have come out 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: and argue that, look, man, this could have been done 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: a long time ago, why did they drag their feet? 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: They ended up getting the deal that was probably I 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: think there's no way to argue with that, especially when 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: you start doing the play of comparisons. We argued the 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: point on Justin Jefferson versus CD Lamb. But I think 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: once you saw the numbers in black and white, it 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: made sense. It made sense from an organizational standpoint. I 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: don't think they overreached in the deal. And now you 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: got Ceedee Lamb underneath this roof with two weeks before 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: you see live ammunition out there. So look, I think 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: the deal, obviously it was an exact science. There's a 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: lot to be argued about, not only the way that 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: it was handled for CD on other superstars that you 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: have emerging. But glad to see it finally got done. Yeah, 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. I'm glad to see 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: that it got done. 47 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 5: And like Luis said, we you know, we've called this 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 5: out weeks ago that it was going to get done because. 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Cede Lamb, in my opinion, he is your passing attack. 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: You know, everybody else eats off of what he's able 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 5: to do out there, creating one on ones for everybody else. 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, we understood that 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 5: the Cowboys had got to get this done, and they 54 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: ended up getting it done with two weeks of spare, 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: which to me is a good sign because you know, 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 5: what you worry about with CD is not the connection 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 5: with him and dak Out on the football field, because 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: you know, you know, they've been together for years now. 59 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: The only thing that would worry you would be that 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: soft tissue stuff because I don't care how many you know, 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 5: drills you do, working out all that good stuff. You 62 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 5: think you're in great shape. You know, football shape is different. 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 5: You only get to that type of shape by playing 64 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 5: the actual game. Guys pulling on you, grabbing on you 65 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: while you're running around, tackling, getting up all that good stuff. 66 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: So with two weeks to spare, he'll be able to 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: get plenty of practicing. He's a young man, so I 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 5: wouldn't have to worry too much about those soft tissue issues. 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 5: Because he has two weeks to go. But that was 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: my only concern going into this. They got it done, 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 5: which you know, thank goodness they did, so now we 72 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: can start this thing with Dak and number one option. 73 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: All right, Church, because that was my next question to 74 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 3: you as a former player, what is that concern level 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: when when guys come in here because a soft tissue 76 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: injury and bam, you're really you know, you're weeks behind. 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's we talking ham strings, you know, stuff 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: like that quad, stuff that can pull when you don't 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: have that, you know, every single day in training CAB 80 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 5: and that's what you know, guys hate the ground of 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: training CAB and I'm with you on that, but that's 82 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 5: where your body gets accustomed to guys pulling on you, 83 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: dragging on you, because you can't, you know, simulate that 84 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: going out into the field doing you know, drills and 85 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 5: all that other so you just can't do it. You know, 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: guys are pulling all different types of angles and your 87 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: body has to get used to those adjustments. And thankfully 88 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: he's in the building now with two weeks, so hopefully 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: he can get that work from the scout team. 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take everything that he says as Gospel. When 91 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: it comes down to preparing for an NFL season, you know, 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: I've heard it being argued several different ways, right, but 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: four years and this is just going into his fifth 94 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: year in the NFL. I think it all comes down 95 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: to how you prepare for the season and out. And 96 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: I haven't never asked you this question, but how long 97 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: did it take you to prepare to get ready for 98 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: a season? And I think he's probably to that point 99 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: with the good money that he spends on trainers, nutritionus 100 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: and everything else that he can prepare. Now. Obviously nothing 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: simulates live football like live football. I don't know if 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: he has twenty other friends to go out and do 103 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: exactly what you were just talking about. But at the 104 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: same time, I think for Ceedee Lamb, he's just he's 105 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: protecting yourself, and for the organization, they're protecting their self 106 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: because the last thing you would have wanted is for 107 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: him to be injured in training camp or something like that. Obviously, 108 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: the investment, you gotta protect the bread and so you know, 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: he got it done at the right time. And I 110 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: think for everybody that's making those arguments against him in 111 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: the organization in the time that it took. I think 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: that if Ceedee Lamb signs this deal a year early, 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: he is pissed when he sees what Justin Jefferson got. 114 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: I mean, in the negotiation deal, you have to deal 115 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: with who's being currently paid and whose future to get paid. 116 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: And he was right there in that ballparking. Just based 117 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: off of the numbers that he put up last year. 118 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: You're like, look, this is one A, one B, but 119 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: not by a long shot. 120 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: Heck, I'm going to push back and just simply say 121 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: this deal should have been done last year. Really should 122 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: have been the first off, you know you want to play, okay, 123 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: if we know we want the player to get to me. 124 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: I look back at Tank Lawrence and Dak Prescott as 125 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: two opportunities where the Cowboys missed the boat where they 126 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: could have got in at good deals, good for the player, 127 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: good for you, and they missed it. And then when 128 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: they finally paid them, the player had the hammer and 129 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 3: they used it right here. Ceedee Lamb was not going 130 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: to play. He knew he had the leverage. He sat out. 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's the only winner here from the stand. Boy, dude, 132 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: go train ket. 133 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: And you got a hundred plus meal mister Bingo, I'll guarantee. 134 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: And when I sit down here upstairs, it's thirty eight 135 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: million dollars coming to me. This this should have been 136 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: done a while back, and back when you saw the 137 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: Eagles sign there, guys, go ahead and get it done 138 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: too with Dak Prescott. Once you saw Jalen Hurts get 139 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: paid and you saw Lamar jess Miss sign them, you 140 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: already know where it's going. So I don't understand the 141 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 3: mentality of why they have waited to do these deals 142 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: because at the. 143 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: End of the day, they keep paying out more and 144 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: more money. 145 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: So when I so, when do you not jump in 146 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: here and say, okay, look this is it needs to 147 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: get done, I would say, and you tell me if 148 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: you how you feel it. 149 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: The numbers felt where we kind of thought they would be. 150 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: And here's what I say to that is last year, 151 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: I think the market was set completely different. And I'm 152 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: guessing here A. J. Brown may have had the market 153 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: somewhere at around the thirty two to thirty one mark. 154 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: I'm and Ross Saint Brown comes in and his and 155 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: this is within the season, yeah, within the season or 156 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: before the season where it raises a thirty three thirty 157 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: you know, within that number if he had signed and 158 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: to say, you know, thirty one million dollars. Man new way. 159 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Let's just hypothetically, you're you're my representation, and I'm sitting 160 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: in my locker and I see an ESPN notification that 161 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: says Justin Jefferson just got thirty five million dollars. I 162 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: am going to text you you are fired because I 163 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: would have wanted it. I would have wanted because of 164 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: where I set the market at. Look, you have the 165 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: example right now with Trent Williams. Trent Williams has a 166 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: has a contract that has the most money in it, 167 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: but yet he's not getting the paid He's third highest 168 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: paid left tackle at the point that he signed his deal, 169 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: it was record setting, highest paid salary ever. But he's saying, 170 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: but he's saying, look, I've outplayed the market. Ceedee Lamb 171 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: would have been in the same place. You would have 172 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: been right back here with him unless Justin Jefferson had 173 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: done his deal first, and he was that close to 174 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson as well. 175 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: I think this is a game. 176 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: And Barry, you speak this as a player, you know 177 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: when you sign somebody's going to jump you, right. This 178 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: is the name of the game. So somebody's gonna jump you, 179 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: but but I've got my security. Here's my bag. I'm 180 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: good with. 181 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: It for percentages left, but if it was percentages less. 182 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: And let me fishing point here. So you know that 183 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: people are gonna jump you, and one of two things happen. 184 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 3: Either you get a new like Dak Dak Prescott signs 185 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: for forty and then here comes Kyler Murray forty six. 186 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: So either you know, supposedly to be a good player, 187 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to be able to get a new deal 188 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: coming up, or you do the old Zach Martin. 189 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: I don't like what's going. 190 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: On exactly exactly exactly, you know, we need you Patrick 191 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: mahone the math math right, the math. 192 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: Math in a while back right right, And so CD Lamb, 193 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: in my opinion, is gonna he's that kind of player 194 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: like Zach Martin hold off player and New York takes well, okay, 195 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: like the Chiefs realized, yeah, we kind of got overload 196 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: bit so we go. 197 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: Right. 198 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: So so if you're that kind of player and you 199 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: see something that passes, you're okay. I mean, if you're 200 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, all right, Kyler got forty six. Here's Trevor 201 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: Lawrence in fifty five. I'm feeling good and that's where 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: I took the cowboys. Like, you know what, when Trevor 203 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: Lawrence got to fifty five, you should have ran in 204 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: the dak his six. 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, finished this thing. The price of the brick keeps going. 206 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: Up every time, and for the good. 207 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: Players, you're going to still be able to come back 208 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 3: withhold your services and get what you want. Jamar Chase 209 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: now is looking at all this and unfortunately Chase with 210 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: the wrong. 211 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: It's the wrong dude with. 212 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: But I think in this case with Jerry Jones, we 213 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: know the history he's. 214 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: At this point in time. 215 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: As far as the offensive weapon, it is, hands down, 216 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: Ceedee lamb is the best offensive weapon they had. 217 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: He was hitting pad. 218 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: You got to I mean, he had to make this 219 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 5: thing happen. Who because who you're gonna rely on with. 220 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 5: We've talked about this for weeks as well. Coach toll 221 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: Bird for there you can't do he. 222 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: Lose the guy that camp, Chris Pan who is the 223 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: the three name guys. 224 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: Billy Johnson. 225 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, a day. 226 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: Like this is what the. 227 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Organization to get you. I've learned they're trying to foolish 228 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: look out here. He's a deep threat, right, you know 229 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: we're gonna dive up to play for the media. 230 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, And. 231 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: Then he got the dudes who ain't got nothing else 232 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: to report, the bright dame like him, Billy Billy has 233 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: been shotting like, oh my gosh, we could happen next 234 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: Robinson Billy time, like they're gonna put some pressure into man. 235 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: And then that where at on. 236 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: The street has to be a financial advice here we 237 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: appreciated provided some excitement, some electricity. That's what it was 238 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: because you saw them on socials and Billy Johnson of 239 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: the deep right, Philly, don't lose my number again? Get 240 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: strange Today's Billy, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm 241 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: seeing that. 242 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: Look at these les reports on Okay, okay, you know 243 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: last year. 244 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: I'm telling man, Jerry got me for the last time 245 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: last ye. 246 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: Not off off the darcotic, I'm off that you're not 247 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: paying these people think I'm not worried about. 248 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: Od's getting paid. 249 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: So good for CD had a nice vacation, that's the 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: off the record questions. 251 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: So what did you do with all that time? How 252 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: was it. 253 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Running on the beach, Jake Chilling? I hope he went chilling, 254 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Please said, don't have been chilling seeking doing the work. 255 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: But you know you're not stressed going to meet absolutely 256 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 5: from you know, seven to ten at night. 257 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: You're getting your work in andything you really now that 258 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: was I think I always said. Now I'm in agreement 259 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: with you on that. But I definitely think the deal 260 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: was gonna get done, and it had to be done 261 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: out of necessity, just based off of the numbers. But 262 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: the other thing that is confusing about it getting done is, 263 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: you know, these are two positions that rely on each other, 264 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: quarterback and wide receiver. So you don't pay your quarter 265 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: your wide receiver without paying said quarterback. 266 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: Trying to make sense out of something we've been saying. 267 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 6: Just. 268 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: Putting that out there. I mean, these things go together, 269 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: is you know, peanut butter jelly. You gotta have one 270 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: and the other. 271 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: It's like all in and we ain't seen all in. 272 00:12:49,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: So just gotta happen, Just gotta happen. I'm like, don't 273 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: lose my number as starts really as n crazy like this, 274 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 275 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 7: Me. 276 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: I did do this organization. 277 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: They got it all out there and Mike ha been 278 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: dyed in the place. 279 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: May you Billy look good talking about man, Billy, don't 280 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: lose my number. 281 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: And then they lost this. Hey thanks Billy, just smer job. 282 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: They gonna cout this, Chris b gonna you know the 283 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: first thing they're gonna ask you. I need I need 284 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: that iPad. I need I need that I pad. That'd 285 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: be the worst to come get it. You need that iPad. 286 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: But coach wants to see you. But just lead the 287 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: iPad right that bed see too many go out like that. 288 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: You make the practice fly. You want to talk about 289 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: David Cooking somebody like that? You know, man, I was 290 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: on the Dalvin Cook train man and Dalvin. Dalvin didn't 291 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: make it here, ended up going to Baltimore for for 292 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: their little brief playoff. 293 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: So so now and I hate these things on Twitter. 294 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,119 Speaker 4: I saw him. 295 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: Working out how to work out, how to work outside, 296 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: to work out. There's anybody go baby. 297 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: These thirst videos like the tray Land's thirst videos. We 298 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: saw throwing against air. 299 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's trade. 300 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: She's like people stop for everybody today was look at 301 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: Dalvin threw a mesh and ball hitting praying the calls stopped. 302 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: He still got the juice. That's what they say, right, 303 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: he still got it. 304 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: So so Dalvin Cook, does it move the needle for you? 305 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: How do you feel? What you think when you saw 306 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: it hit? 307 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 6: Like? 308 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: I think it's a worthy conversation to be had. But 309 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have way more than just Dalvin 310 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Cook coming here. You're gonna have to have it. It's 311 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: a conversation to be had. I mean, if you go 312 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: to calm in the streets to find a running back, 313 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do more than just just Dalvin. 314 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: I just don't I don't understand this. I don't what 315 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: is the infatuation with and no disrest? Because these guys 316 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: were great. 317 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: In their prime, but you know we're relying on these 318 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: aging veterans. 319 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: Is what is dalvining? You're ten as a runner back? 320 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: Maybe nine? 321 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: I mean once the last time Delvin was was that 322 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 5: guy in the backfield. I mean, he's very similar in 323 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: my opinion, to what you got in Zeke already. So 324 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 5: you know, why would you already get would you double 325 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: down on another back that does similar things that Zeke does, 326 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 5: running between the tackles, three yards in a cloud of doust. 327 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: He's great towards the goal line, But you already have 328 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: that there. 329 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: If you want to go get a back why don't 330 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: you get a little change of direction, you know, a 331 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: little lightning to the thunder, somebody that can receive out 332 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 5: of the backfield as well. I you know, I just 333 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 5: don't understand this infatuation with these aging veterans bringing them 334 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: on to the. 335 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: Squad once again, with the people who check out the players. Lange, 336 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: we sat around and talked about this with the running 337 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: back room. Come come cut time, you know, start looking 338 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: at some veterans here. To me, this says what we've 339 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: been talking about. You're not sure about this room. Yeah, 340 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: well you can tell me Malik Day I like Malik Davis, Oh, 341 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: you like him so much? 342 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: And call down and cook ch It's Freeme, all of 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: them cats. Make sure you're sure. And I don't blame them. 344 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: I don't blame them for doing that, especially when you 345 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: go into last season. Although you went twelve and five, 346 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: Pollard only had one one game where he rushed for 347 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: one hundred yards. Okay, So I think if you had 348 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: any more to that running back room after that one 349 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: hundred yard game, I think you'd feel better going into 350 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Or if that one hundred yard game came 351 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, maybe it would have helped you. They're 352 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: looking for more, and again I don't blame them knowing 353 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: that behind Ezekiel Ellen another aging running back, you have 354 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: Duce Vaughan and company. Yeah. 355 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: I just it's just it's smelling like it's going to 356 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: be a you know, Dak forty five passes game type, 357 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: That's what. 358 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: It's smelling like to meet. 359 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: Well, let me put it this way, Okay, giving your 360 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: choice right now, Malik Davis, Royce Freeman, Dalvin Cook, you're 361 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: picking one. 362 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: Where do you go? Malik Davis has more juice? I 363 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: believe Malik Davis. 364 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: So you're saying that the fact that they're flying him. 365 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: In says that they got a thing with Malik Davis, 366 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: not your guy. That's what the question or Royce is not. 367 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: I mean you know. 368 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: So so that to me, it was kind of with 369 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: what what they what they say, and what they the 370 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: actions are right now. 371 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: Completely there's something. 372 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: There's something going on that they're bringing that they're saying, 373 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: let's bring this guy in. 374 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Now. They can bring in Dalvin Cook and not sign him. 375 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: They could do that. 376 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: I mean, they brought in Carl Lawson and they didn't 377 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: sign him, and they signed him and they send him 378 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: going with Billy on the way. 379 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they did, they did, And I thought. 380 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: He was going, you know, a good rotational piece. 381 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: No, you know exactly what, Carl. That's is exactly why 382 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: you just made that argument. And it all started from 383 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: the workout video and I think we all figured it out. 384 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: It's like, come on, man, come on, man, is that 385 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: if there's anything that we understand that the the the 386 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: injury to Sam Williams. Man, it's got you in a 387 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: mode where you have to figure out what you have 388 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: kneeling has showing you promise. But at the same time, 389 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: you couldn't go into the season gambling with an aging veteran. Okay, 390 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: that's the same question that you have about the three 391 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: technique that you Phillips that you just bought off. You 392 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: want to know, Look, how much does this guy having 393 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: the tank, how much Joseph, how much can they help you? 394 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: What kind of rotation can you get going with these guys? 395 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: So so let me also throw this out here, and 396 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: this is this is another kind of he's a veteran, 397 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: so if he's on, if he's on the roster, they 398 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: wanted to guarantee absolutely, so maybe hey, hey, just sitting 399 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: the cut for a minute, just just chill so we 400 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: can do the game by game kind of thing with you. 401 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: So I'll be interested to see where they go. But 402 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: you know that's one thing right now. A lot of 403 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: teams like before I paid his bet money, Hey man, 404 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: I'm put you on the street, and he already didn't 405 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: have a bunch of folks was running after. It wasn't 406 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: like he put a bunch of stuff on tape that 407 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: made you say, hey, we let him go. 408 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: He's gonna get snatched up all that. 409 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, and this may be 410 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: a tease for the break. You know, how much does 411 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: the run bland getting hurt actually impact some of the 412 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: guys that stay on this roster. 413 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: That's you know what. Let's take a break and come 414 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: back with it. 415 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: You're getting on, I said, I'm gonna get hold on, 416 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: hold on. 417 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: That's how. 418 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: That's how my whole mind. I see you out here, 419 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: I see Billy Johnson. 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By 473 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: the way, this listen to radio broadcast, Babe Loffenberg had 474 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: the same. 475 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: Read, So boom, there you go, there you go, there 476 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: you go, Bury Church. 477 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: From my Cowboys safety, it's here as we're getting closer now, 478 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: it's all about getting towards Cleveland and game one up there. 479 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: By the way, Nick Chubb is out, So Nick Chubb's 480 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: gonna miss four games. He's still recovering, So the Cowboys 481 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: do not have to face Nick Chubb. And that is 482 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: a sigh of relief, because when healthy, Nick Chubb is 483 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: one of the better backs in the league. I don't 484 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: use the word special very much with Nick Chubb. 485 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: Special. Yeah, but coming off you saw that injury last year. 486 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: It was terrific. It was a terrific injury, and you 487 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: knew that it was going to be a bit before 488 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: he was able to make it back. I remember seeing 489 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: the video. I sent it to the friend group of 490 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: him like five place six flights on each side. I'm like, dude, 491 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like I saw your need Like 492 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: come on man, Like he's back into this thing. So 493 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 2: it's just good to know that he's still back on 494 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: track to to get back on the Roston play. 495 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: Give the Browns some credit for not trying to rush 496 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: and being some teams, Hey man, let's get you on 497 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: back here. They at least understand, hey man, this, he's 498 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: not where he needs to be. We'll slow play this thing. 499 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: Let's get him right. So because we know there's certain 500 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: teams out there that you know. 501 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: For to hear now. 502 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: And that's also what helped when your coach has job security. Yeah, 503 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 3: he done that down back there. That's true, you know, 504 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 3: which is wild to think about. Cleveland's coach got job 505 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: security and the man who's in won a Super Bowl, 506 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: won twelve games the last couple of years out here 507 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: on a one year deal. 508 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Man, prove it. 509 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: Prove it for your supper, Mike, which wow, And the 510 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: way the offense was last year, so you just paid 511 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: CD lamb all that that was this first year in 512 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: the offense, and this is Mike calling place at the 513 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: Finally your boy got shown the door. 514 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 2: No disrespect, man, disrespect. 515 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 3: That should be a contracted cension right now. It's being 516 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: the OC coach wise man. I mean, I just think 517 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 3: last year for show he did I for me, I 518 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: think Mike is a very good coach. You start looking 519 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: at the top twenty wins list, Mike is on the 520 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: top when NFL history, man, Mike is on the top 521 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: twenty wins list. 522 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: Man got more than Bill Coward. How about that? I 523 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: know that one. 524 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: Uh huh, and either has more than Dungee or he's 525 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: right there by Dungee, two guys who were in the 526 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. So, I mean Mike is a really 527 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: good coach and a play call for all the stuff 528 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: people talk about Sean Payton, they're basically you start looking 529 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: at their record. 530 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: That's not a lot of coaches in the league right 531 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: now with a better record. I think obviously, uh in 532 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: Kents City, you know he's there, but he's been coaching 533 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: for a long time. And it's it's when you the 534 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: point that you just brought up about guys coming back 535 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: from injuries and things like that, that's one of the 536 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: points of Mike McCarthy that he never really gets the 537 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: way that he manages may that he manages players, and 538 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: the way guys respect him for that. So you know, 539 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: this is not this is one of those I guess 540 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: the media we're waiting to unravel how complicated this is 541 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: him coaching on a one year deal, the respect of 542 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: the locker room and his coaching staff. I mean, there's 543 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: a lot going into a guy like Mike McCarthy being 544 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: on a one year deal. 545 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: Let me piggyback on what you talked about that and 546 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: Chris being way in here, because Chris was at training 547 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: camp every single day handling the press conferences. I think 548 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 3: Mike deserves a lot of credit because he was asked about. 549 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: CD lamp all the time. 550 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, never took any bait, never did anything where he 551 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: put the player in a position that might be uncomfortable 552 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: about or the organization. He kept talking about. It was 553 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: business and Chris I thought that. I thought that showed 554 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: a lot on Mike because we have seen in football 555 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 3: and other sports where you got some coaches who can 556 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: get out there say some things that alienate them with 557 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: the players in the room and management. 558 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, he basically was like, that's the business side and 559 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 7: we understand that. So he was definitely pushing that through camp, 560 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 7: and he did a really good job about just you know, 561 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 7: being in the moment about the guys that were actually 562 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 7: at camp basically and that's a. 563 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: Skill, man, that is that is that is a skill. 564 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: So before break you you you hit raised the question, 565 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: so go back there. 566 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 2: No, so you know, literally, d run Bland, we just 567 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: get a random tweet and alert that d run Bland 568 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: has fractured his foot and is going to be out 569 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: for six to eight weeks. And it couldn't have come 570 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: at the worst time. And I think we've been become 571 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: accustomed to getting that bad news with our cornerbacks over 572 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And then I think even 573 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: going back to like Anthony Brown, when you started getting 574 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: those you know, guys going to be out for a 575 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: substantial amount of time, not comparing the players, but that's 576 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: what I'm just saying, guys out. 577 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: Contract any. 578 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: Talk about dirt, but feel this time, this time wasn't here, 579 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: but it was. Hey, look you look at a guy. 580 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: You look at some of these guys behind them, Guys 581 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 2: like keem On Hall, Guys that are getting opportunities now 582 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: guys that you may have to cut and bring back. 583 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: You know, they made an in season trade with who said, 584 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: Nashon Wright and Booth from Minnesota to back, you know, 585 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: to obviously add to another death piece, and you get 586 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: a you get a guy like Eric Scott out of 587 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: the you know, out of the fold, and you know, 588 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: obviously organizational guy they picked him. But then he's cut 589 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: and it surprises you, especially with Dern Bland's absence. Now 590 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: here's the deal I think behind that, they've got to 591 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: feel really confident in the guys that they have if 592 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: they haven't made any more acquisitions. Now, that's another piece 593 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about, Like Hook, You're you're bringing back 594 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 2: a Trayvon Diggs that's coming back off coming back off 595 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: of an a c L injury, And so how concerning 596 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: is that before the Bland and and now with Bland 597 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: going down, you know, there's got to be a lot 598 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 2: of questions now around the cornerback. Yeah, when you look 599 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: at it, just going off of just on the field 600 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: aspect of it. With Bland, if he was healthy and 601 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: dead's coming back, you could have Bland kind of shadowing 602 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: that number one guy. You could have let Diz come 603 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: back at his own type of pace where okay, maybe 604 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: I'll get the number two wide receiver here, or play 605 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: a little bit of zone here and let you know, 606 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: Bland through the mand technique on the other side to 607 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: confuse the quarterback. But with Blair or Bland out right now, 608 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, for six eight weeks, however long they they 609 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: say the foot injury is did, He's gonna be that 610 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: number one corner roll once again, and he's gonna get 611 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: thrown into the fire because he's gonna have to go 612 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: out there and he's gonna have to guard the top guys. 613 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: When you talk about a Namari Cooper week one, when 614 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: you talk about those guys that he has to play 615 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: in those first couple of. 616 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: Games, He's gonna get thrown into the fire because it's 617 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: a neeed, it's a need. Right now, you don't have 618 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: Bland over there. You got George Lewis. But to me, 619 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: Lewis is the perfect prototypical nickel corner movie. Don't move 620 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: him on the outside. 621 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: He is your slot corner. 622 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 5: So the question that ass is you know who's gonna 623 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 5: step up and be that you know, opposite outside corner 624 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 5: of Diggs I mean, you got some young guys in there. 625 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: I was surprised with the Eric Scott cut as well. 626 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 5: But once again, that's a dan Quinn guy, you know. 627 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 5: That was that was one of his guys that he 628 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 5: wanted to bring in as far as draft pick. And you 629 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: got a whole new regime as far as on the 630 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: defensive side of the football. So we'll see what Booth 631 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 5: has out there. You know, in the preseason, it didn't 632 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 5: look very promising for what Ruth was able to do 633 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 5: on that outside corner roll. But we'll see as the 634 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 5: season is young. He's getting into this new system, so 635 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 5: we'll see what he can bring. But to me, that's 636 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: a big time question mark is the other outside corner 637 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 5: from treyvon di Because you got Lewis in the slot, 638 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 5: you got Diggs on one side. But who's gonna be 639 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 5: that outside corner? But Carson, Carson. 640 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: It's a young it's a young pup. That's a young guy. 641 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: This is. 642 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Welcome to the show, baby, gonna get welcomed. 643 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: And yes, yes, but when they're letting Scott go once again, 644 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: when they make moves like this, somebody's telling you what 645 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: we like Carson and what and you go, this is 646 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: where you trust in the guy like Al Harris, get 647 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: your guys straight. So it's gonna take a collective group. 648 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hide them for sure. 649 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: Like you can you can hide them, get safety to 650 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: helps over the top, get linebackers buzzing underneath. But then 651 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 5: that also takes away from your run defense as well. 652 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a give and take. 653 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: And that's that's the This is the NFL, and everybody's 654 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: gonna be going going through something. I remember when Doug 655 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: Collins was uh it was an analyst at the time 656 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: for t T and he sat around and kind of 657 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: did a media session where he says, your job as 658 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: a coach is to cover up the wards and I'm like, 659 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: that's really an apropos for for any sport coach knows 660 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: we got we got issues here, and they do look 661 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: at the tape and you're in there with the meeting rooms, 662 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: all right, week here we got this here. How do 663 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: we cover it up? And so where you thought you 664 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: had the strength, now blaming is gone. Okay, how do 665 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: we cover it up? Last year they did a heck 666 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: of a job covering up Diggs because I remember us 667 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: doing the podcast. Oh my goodness, gracious man, what are 668 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: you gonna do? Because Dick was so good the year before, 669 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: in the last two years, he was really good. 670 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 5: They figured it out, right, I mean, you did have 671 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: an all pro corner in there and Gilmour coming in 672 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 5: and then Bland is as Bland is who he is. 673 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he's record setting year, yes, And I love 674 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: how you know with Cowboy Nation, we just go from 675 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: all right, Bland was a fifth round pick. Kayling Carson 676 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: is a fifth round pick, and it may not work 677 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: like that. And we talk about the genius of that 678 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: whole position being in Al Harris's hands, and we've seen 679 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: the way that those cornerbacks operated in the preseason, but 680 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: also could be a part of what you know, Will 681 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: McLay has done as well by bringing in talent in 682 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: the fifth round. And you're seeing these guys prospering camp. 683 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: Does that correlate to the game You know, we're going 684 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: to see because like you said, he's going to be 685 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: thrust into a position to obviously show what he has. 686 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: And I don't think that Mike Zimmer is going to 687 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: sacrifice the foundation of his defense to protect one guy. 688 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: You got to earn your key. 689 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: Obviously your correct church question marks, but this is this 690 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 3: is the NFL, and and you're nobody's gonna feel sorry 691 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: for you and happened and you have to figure it out. 692 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: Nobody nobody here feel sorry. Nick Chubb won't be there 693 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: for week. So this is what it's going to be. 694 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: And and throughout the league time and time again, teams 695 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: are going to have to figure out how do we 696 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: cover up this war? And that that's why you're paying 697 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: your coaches. That's why you've got Mike McCarthy here, who 698 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl with a roster that just kept 699 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: falling apart all year along with Green Bay, and even 700 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl game loses Donald Driver. They kept 701 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: losing dudes, and so you find you find the ways 702 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: to win. And this is where coaching matters, player development matters, 703 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: and we'll. 704 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: See, we'll see what they do. 705 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: But losing Bland hurt because you thought you were going 706 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: to well, not only losing Bland, but then Gilmore signs 707 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: three d's early man that. 708 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: Because that was wrong, we get a redo on that, 709 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: maybe out of that contract come back home. 710 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 4: So as a former player, so Gilmour got ten. 711 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: Mil, which is a heck of it. 712 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: But you're in Minnesota, who the first round picked the quarterback. 713 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy's out for the years. So now that they're 714 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: they're they're struggling the quarterback. How would you feel if 715 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: you got your money? Then you see what happened with 716 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: Blane playing. 717 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 5: If I'm in Gilmore shoes, I'm looking at it like, man, 718 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 5: you know, you know, I kind of want to be 719 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 5: back in Dallas. But you know, he has his Super Bowl, 720 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 5: he got his All Pros, Defensive Players of the Year, 721 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 5: he got all that. So you're looking at the situation 722 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 5: in Dallas. You're saying, man, that would have been cool 723 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 5: to kind of just go back to where you know, 724 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 5: I know that locker room and all that stuff. Now 725 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 5: I got to start over in Minnesota. But he has 726 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 5: all the credentials. So I'm sure that he's just kind 727 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 5: of sitting back saying, hey, man, well right here. 728 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: That last Barry Church that question and you opened it 729 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: uphe he got ten million dollars. You know what Barry 730 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: would have been saying, oops, I'll say it, ten million 731 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: dollar bag. 732 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: They're all cold. Ain't got no quarterback his. 733 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Meat going and that get right? You know, no. 734 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: Hear no state taxes to other than the guys. 735 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: Guys, you know, you know, hey, man. 736 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: How quick is that you haul packed up in the 737 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: last game? How fast? How fast they lined up already? 738 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: Especially if you. 739 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 5: Lose Man last year, Jackson's loud beach be terrible. I'm 740 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 5: getting the vacations booked. We already knew what time. 741 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: It was, but you know, he go do it, and 742 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 2: go do it. 743 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 4: Let's get our second break in here. 744 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 3: One name that the Cowboys cut that I don't want 745 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 3: to say I'm surprised about. I'm just kind of trying 746 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: to understand what happened to this guy. We'll do that 747 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 3: with Heck Maharrison, Barry Church on new Scrugs. 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Yeah, they lined up outside. 798 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: Okay it's free, Yeah, okay, it's free alright, pro shop 799 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: selling out too. 800 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 3: Well that Actually I had a conversation with a buddy 801 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: of mine in California the way over here. It's like, well, 802 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: the tickets are final, I said, tickets are sold. I 803 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: was like, they're gonna the tickets are sold. Okay, And 804 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 3: I had a friend who talked about coming out to 805 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: see the Cowboys. 806 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 4: Was the December game? Because here's what I will tell you. 807 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: If the Cowboys aren't good December, people don't get the tickets, 808 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: ware they GOI sell, they will not come up here 809 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: and spend the good time coming. 810 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: If you're gone this this town is move on. I've 811 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: been a part of it. Where's everybody yet? 812 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: So it was it was. It was the year when 813 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 4: they played the Jets in December. 814 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 3: The Cowboys weren't good, and and one of a friend 815 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 3: of a friend of mine to another friend had said, 816 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: I want to get my husband tickets and it was 817 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: maybe like September too. 818 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 4: I said, don't buy, don't buy. I said, it's a 819 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 4: December game. 820 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: Wait, because if the Cowboys are not good, it's gonna 821 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 3: be a cheap ticket. If they are good, you maybe 822 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: hate me sure if they weren't good. And next thing 823 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 3: that she. 824 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: Bought like four five. 825 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: Blurs, all right, about four five tickets. But no, man, 826 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: the tickets are sold there, they're here. It's gonna be packed. 827 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 3: It's just depending on how the team plays, what what 828 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: the intensity level is about how fans are gonna rack. 829 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: They gotta ask you, guys, man, at what point in 830 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: the season do people start calling you and remembering, remembering 831 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: that you have tickets to the game. When does that 832 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: happen for me? Yeah? 833 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 5: Man, it was about because they started hotting. 834 00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: Was that? Uh? 835 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: Let me think what was that sixteen? 836 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: No, I was I'm trying to think of It was 837 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: the middle of the season something. Okay, middle of the season, okay, 838 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: once they started out hoting. Hey, I get it. I 839 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: mean every week, man, what's up? Man? Yeah? 840 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, hey man, you call this number right here, and 841 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 5: that's how you get to the box, that's how you 842 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 5: pay for it. 843 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 2: I am. It's like everybody realizes I'm alive. The week 844 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: before the season, season and I start getting that call. 845 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: You know, hey man, what you doing? I got a 846 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 2: friend coming to town for the Baltimore game like Baltimore, 847 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: not the not the command, this game nothing Baltimore. You 848 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 2: are you really you are? You are Baltimore. And that'd 849 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 2: be the worst. It don't even be know how you're doing. 850 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 4: I got somebody coming in, yes, like our standard line. Yeah, sure, 851 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 4: what's your credit card? 852 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: Now, what's your dad? You know what? That's right? 853 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 4: Credit card? 854 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: I'll see what I do. 855 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 3: What's your credit card number? And one time I had 856 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: I had one. Hey man, we're coming into town. Man, 857 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 3: you know we'll buy some ticks with We're trying to 858 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: get some discount tickets. 859 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: What is I said? Man, let me help you got 860 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: no discount tickets yet. This ain't the Carolina Panthers. Ain't 861 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: no discount tickets here. 862 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: This whole family four pack like you guys are buying 863 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 3: and shot okay. 864 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 2: Comes with a pepsi pepsi and popcorn. 865 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 3: No discount tickets and Jerry either you want to pay 866 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 3: the price, you doun what's your credit card? 867 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 4: What's your credit card? 868 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to use that. You know. 869 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 4: You know what happens after that. You'll get a call back. 870 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: Let me hit your back. 871 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 9: You know what. 872 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: You also don't get the number the number, you don't 873 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: get the call in the card number either. 874 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 4: Need then three digits on the back. You don't get it. 875 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: You don't get it. So that is you you want 876 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 2: your fool proof all right. 877 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 3: That's a public service announcement on the playing that if 878 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 3: in your world anybody trying to hit you up for 879 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: tickets for something, you know, tell them, sure, I'll make 880 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 3: a call. 881 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 4: What's your credit card number? 882 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: So when I make the call and I'm able to 883 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: get it for it, then you just they're gonna go 884 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 3: away the building address and I needed last three digits 885 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: on the back ye credit card number, expiration date, and 886 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 3: the three digits on the back. 887 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: To the Baltimore game. Baltimore game. 888 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 4: Heckna, they don't call back. No, no, they don't call back. 889 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: Like I said, they realized I'm alive two weeks before this, 890 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, how you doing? Miss birthdays and all 891 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: that the whole time. 892 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: Cowboy cuts have come down and tight end. 893 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 3: Peyton Hendershot no longer here m hmm made the team 894 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 3: as a rookie and he was from Indiana. They drafted 895 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson and both of these young men had real 896 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 3: good seasons and for the next year went next level 897 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: the starter and hender Shot dealt with some injuries and 898 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 3: and just had been the same. So when I saw 899 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 3: his name on the cutlass, it's like, you know, man, what. 900 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: Happened to this guy? Because he was a mismatch guy. 901 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 5: He can split him out on the slide linebacker safeties 902 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 5: and give him problems. But you know, got to be 903 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 5: more than a vertical threat. Got to be able to 904 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 5: block in line. 905 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: You said it, you know, I think the injuries really 906 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 2: derailed a lot of his progress. And seeing for take 907 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: that next step in that jump really was like the 908 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 2: great separator because eighty seven eighty eighty nine you couldn't 909 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: tell one from the other when they were playing. But 910 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, you hate to see a guy have to 911 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: move on like this, and maybe, you know, if they're 912 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 2: able to bring him back at a later date and 913 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 2: you know, get him back healthy, because I know he 914 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: dealt with some injuries in camp as well. I still 915 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: think that there's talent there. You know, I just think 916 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: that somehow when the guy start facing those many injuries, 917 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: it's frustration that sets in. Then he's not getting a 918 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: playing time, and you know, things kind of go snowball 919 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: and go down here. 920 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 5: It's just tough because you know the tape's not going 921 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 5: to be there. You know, you got to take from 922 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 5: your rookie season. But with the injuries he dealt with 923 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 5: last year, it's just it's gonna be tough, especially for 924 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 5: undrafted guy. 925 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: So let me pit this with you as a player. 926 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: So he has this really good rookie season, they let 927 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz go, So Ferguson's here, you're here. Then you 928 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 3: look up and they draft Luke Schoonmaker in the second round. 929 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: As a player, When you see that, what goes through 930 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: your head? 931 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 5: Oh, you hate it because I mean, I understand. It 932 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 5: happened with me every year I was here. I mean, 933 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 5: he always drafted the safety in the fourth, third round. 934 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 5: And I remember their names too. I mean, my boy 935 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 5: JJ Wilcoss, you got, Matt Johnson was out there. They 936 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 5: brought a couple other guys in there as well. But 937 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 5: you hate it, but you understand that a man. Now, 938 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 5: I got to go out there and prove myself once again. 939 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 5: And the fact that it's just not only you have 940 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 5: to prove yourself, but you see people that haven't you know, 941 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 5: played as well as you have or haven't you know 942 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 5: been experiences you have. They don't have any competition out there. 943 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 5: Their job is just theirs. But being where your drafted 944 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 5: that you got to make it happen. 945 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a business. Yeah, it's a business. It's a business. 946 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 2: You have to grow up fast. And that's maybe probably 947 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: one of the hardest things for him, especially when you 948 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 2: have a partner in Ferguson that you're seeing the success 949 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: that he has and you come in together. Not saying 950 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: that there's any jealousy or anything like that, but you 951 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: just see these two guys ascending at the same level 952 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: and one just shoots in a different, uh direction. But 953 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: I wish him well man. I think that again, he 954 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: had a lot of talent, has a lot of talent. 955 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 2: But Schoolmaker coming in, Man, that that couldn't have been 956 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: something that you know, gave him more confidence and. 957 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 4: He could block. 958 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing I look at Schoolmaker and block. 959 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 3: He needs to be a better blocker. But that that's 960 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 3: kind of there. All right, fun show, appreciate man, Barry Church, 961 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Chris being good to see you 962 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 3: back in the person here after training man. Good to 963 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: see all right. Thanks to Jazz Josh, everybody's part of 964 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: the show. Players, Lins, We're back on Thursday, Thursday, Thursday. 965 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: If you're coming out to the if you're coming out 966 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 3: to see the cow get here early. 967 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, get here early. Parking is gonna be limited. 968 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 3: And hey, ain't nothing like free, free free. Come come 969 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: see him for free, Baby, come see him for free. 970 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 3: All rights players, let's just brought you by Aristocrat Gaming. 971 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you Thursday right here, Dallas Cowboys dot 972 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: Com Radio. 973 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 974 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 975 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 3: Hey,