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Speaker 1: for all those Cam Newton memories to flood back for
Speaker 1: Carolina fans and most NFL fans as well. First play
Speaker 1: since signing last Thursday, Newton runs in for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Second play, throws for a touchdown. He took off his
Speaker 1: helmet at one point when he got in the end
Speaker 1: zone and said I'm back, and he got a penalty
Speaker 1: on the play. But that's not the point. You know,
Speaker 1: who knows if he can produce at a high level,
Speaker 1: consistent level. But you rough up the NFC leading Cardinals
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I know they didn't have Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have Kyler Murray when they went to
Speaker 1: San Francisco and won the Panthers winning this one. They're
Speaker 1: now five and five. They're in the playoff picture just
Speaker 1: about everybody. There's probably four or five teams who aren't
Speaker 1: in the playoff picture. Right now. We'll see what Cam
Speaker 1: can do the rest of this year. He's thirty two,
Speaker 1: only thirty two, but maybe he's an older thirty two
Speaker 1: and the Panthers seem to be open to anything at quarterback.
Speaker 1: They've already picked up the second year with Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: and Sam is out. But here's Cam who a week
Speaker 1: ago was watching football. But to see him suit up
Speaker 1: and then next opponent it's going to be his former
Speaker 1: coach Ron Rivera and the Washington football team, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Panthers had become a whole more interesting.
Speaker 1: That's one of those scores where I'm not watching the
Speaker 1: game and then you see the score and you go,
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the game now, just because I
Speaker 1: was curious how Cam was going to look. But Arizona
Speaker 1: getting blown out by Carolina pretty amazing. There's usually, as
Speaker 1: I say, every week, two or three games where you go,
Speaker 1: how is that possible? Washington meeting Tampa Bay did not
Speaker 1: surprise me. I said last week. Eventually Washington will play
Speaker 1: a really good game, and they did. Tampa didn't play
Speaker 1: a good game at all, But Washington played well. Now
Speaker 1: they may lose Chase Young for the rest of the
Speaker 1: year and they're not a good team. But Carolina winning
Speaker 1: in Arizona that wouldn't surprise to me. Let's pull a
Speaker 1: question We're going with McLevin. Okay, as always, we're going
Speaker 1: to start very negative and do worst loss of the weekend.
Speaker 1: You've already mentioned maybe a couple, but we'll start with
Speaker 1: College Texas losing to Kansas, Oklahoma losing to Baylor, The
Speaker 1: Bucks lost to Washington football team. The Chargers lost to
Speaker 1: the Vikings. I don't know if you think that belongs
Speaker 1: on there. That's another one of those games. The Vikings
Speaker 1: are one of those perplexing teams that I watch and
Speaker 1: I go, I don't know if they're good or not.
Speaker 1: And then the Chargers, I don't know if they're any
Speaker 1: good or not because they're supposed to be. The Vikings
Speaker 1: don't go away and they put a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on Justin Herbert. But you're watching Kirk Cousins plays well
Speaker 1: on the road. Quarterback rating like five or six consecutive
Speaker 1: games is over one hundred. He's really good on the road.
Speaker 1: And it's not like you tune in and go, I
Speaker 1: expect him to be good. We're almost still surprised if
Speaker 1: he's good. But the Chargers like, do you want to
Speaker 1: play with the big boys? You got to win these games.
Speaker 1: So that one surprised me a little bit. Who else
Speaker 1: the Browns. Yeah, that one surprised me a lot. Is
Speaker 1: that more like a great win for the Patriots or
Speaker 1: do you come away from that being like, oh, the
Speaker 1: Browns are in some trouble both. I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: are a playoff team. Said that at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, I thought they were a ten win team,
Speaker 1: and they seemed to be figuring it out a little
Speaker 1: bit here. But you know what happened with Cleveland. I
Speaker 1: mean you just come on, you go down the field,
Speaker 1: you have this unbelievable drive, touchdown, and you're thinking, okay, man,
Speaker 1: Browns looking good here, and that was it. They were done.
Speaker 1: Baker got banged up. But okay, I know it always
Speaker 1: comes back to Baker. Where is this vaunted defense, Where
Speaker 1: is one of the top defenses. Oh my gosh, this
Speaker 1: is a great defense. They were non existent. I mean
Speaker 1: Mac Jones has played less than ten games. You're he
Speaker 1: looks like Brady out there, like you gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: start with the defense looking late because you don't have
Speaker 1: your two starting running backs. Baker is, you know, playing
Speaker 1: with a banged up shoulder. But you know you didn't
Speaker 1: put any pressure on Mac Jones. You hit him twice
Speaker 1: in the game. That was it. I mean, that's I
Speaker 1: don't know who's winning the North. I guess the Ravens
Speaker 1: would be the favorites right now. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Steelers tie the Lions without Ben Roethlisberger. Man, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of teams where you go, man, like the Packers
Speaker 1: with Jordan Love, the Steelers with Mason Rudolph, and you're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't want these guys to leave anytime soon here. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: we've been seeing Mason Rudolph lose games. Yeah. Yeah, They've
Speaker 1: got a larger sample size in Pittsburgh than Green Bay
Speaker 1: does with Jordan Love. And even yesterday with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He played okay, But that defense defense is great without
Speaker 1: two of their starters. And you know, granted it was
Speaker 1: Russ coming back from the injury, but you shut them out.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. And even what they did against Kansas City,
Speaker 1: because Kansas City blew out the Raiders, but that defense
Speaker 1: did shut down Patrick Mahomes even though they lost that game.
Speaker 1: That's what's kind of scary here because if Green Bay
Speaker 1: is offensively what we think they're going to be, and
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has not gone for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon and yes, I raised my hand. I was
Speaker 1: one of those people who said, why are you drafting
Speaker 1: another running back and not a wide receiver? And AJ
Speaker 1: Dillon remembered that because he said it after the game.
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, I heard, I remember, and he played
Speaker 1: well yesterday. And I just think, you know, they can
Speaker 1: run the football and you saw that yesterday. They were
Speaker 1: able to do that. But you know, if they have
Speaker 1: this top five defense and you get some you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of these players back by December, then that's
Speaker 1: what's dangerous about Green Bay. You always expect an offense.
Speaker 1: It's like Kansas City. You saw the offense, but can
Speaker 1: they play? Can they be a consistent defensive team as well?
Speaker 1: And they blew out the Raiders. The Raiders are who
Speaker 1: we thought they were. I mean every year you're like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know the Raiders, Derek Carr, MVP Candid, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're the Raiders. Like this happens every single year. Yahn
Speaker 1: Seaton brought up an interesting point on Seahawks Packers. Should
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had been out there, especially if it was
Speaker 1: cold and snowy, I was surprised with their down seventeen
Speaker 1: in a minute to go, and he's still out there
Speaker 1: trying to score a touchdown. I just don't I don't
Speaker 1: need him out there. Take him out. But you know
Speaker 1: he wanted to be there. He wanted to go against Rogers.
Speaker 1: He played his college ball at Wisconsin. You know this
Speaker 1: was a big deal for him to be able to
Speaker 1: be ready for this game. They should be like you
Speaker 1: always you look at this and you go, okay, they
Speaker 1: got they got some weapons here. But for some reason,
Speaker 1: it just never feels like it's fluid where you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of good plays and then three and out,
Speaker 1: or there's a couple of goods. Oh, there's a big
Speaker 1: play and then it's three and out. You know you
Speaker 1: got three wins. Right now there're three and six. It
Speaker 1: goes back to what I said at the start of
Speaker 1: the year, not even knowing what was going to happen
Speaker 1: with Seattle. I think this is the last year of
Speaker 1: russ in Seattle. And if they don't make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: which it doesn't look like they're going to, then what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? You know, you you don't even
Speaker 1: have your first round draft pick. You gave that to
Speaker 1: the Jets for Jamal Adams that you know, this is
Speaker 1: feels like there's a couple of teams that will be
Speaker 1: moving on from their quarterbacks. And it might be Green Bay,
Speaker 1: it might be Seattle, Pittsburgh. You know, there's a few
Speaker 1: of them in there. And does Cam Newton all of
Speaker 1: a sudden become Carolina's starting quarterback next season? That's what
Speaker 1: I'd be curious about, because you already paid Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: you gave up draft pick. You know they're paying. I
Speaker 1: think it's like sixty million dollars trying to find Cam's
Speaker 1: replacement and draft picks that they gave up. I know
Speaker 1: David Tepper is worth fifteen billion dollars. You know his
Speaker 1: his net worth is fifteen billion. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if you want to be spending you know, a billion
Speaker 1: on trying to get your cornerback here and they're going
Speaker 1: to be on the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes as well. Think
Speaker 1: it's that's a mess. And you know, Christian McCaffrey, I
Speaker 1: never would assign him into the second year, second contract there.
Speaker 1: When he's in, you know, it's great to have him in,
Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee He's going to be able to play,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Texas game. I started watching later in
Speaker 1: the second half, and I thought, oh my god, how
Speaker 1: is this possible? Like Kansas is always terrible, although I
Speaker 1: think they have a head coach who probably won't be
Speaker 1: long for Kansas. He was at Wisconsin Whitewater, I think
Speaker 1: he was in the MAC and he goes there to
Speaker 1: Kansas and I apologize, I don't know his name, but
Speaker 1: he won't be at Kansas, I don't think for a
Speaker 1: long period of time, because somebody will hire him and
Speaker 1: give him a raise. Yeah, I'm club Lance Leapole Leaphold. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: but he's got success and it seems like they do
Speaker 1: respond to him. And then that's a huge win. Huge
Speaker 1: With Oklahoma, I'm not surprised they lost a Baylor. I mean,
Speaker 1: Baylor's the top fifteen team. They're playing in Waco, but
Speaker 1: that's a devastating loss when it comes to hey, if
Speaker 1: they go undefeated, they're getting yam they yeah, but they
Speaker 1: they're not going undefeated. Um, who else do we have
Speaker 1: in there? Mclovin, Oh, definitely, uh, the Browns, but the Bucks? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Or is that not? Does that one not bother you?
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like that loss really says anything. Be no,
Speaker 1: because you know once they get everybody healthy that that's going.
Speaker 1: You don't have Gronk and you don't have Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: This is what happened to this team last November. And
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, Uh, I think we have Bruce Arians. Some
Speaker 1: sound from Bruce the Buccaneers coach. He wasn't happy obviously
Speaker 1: after the game, energy and passion, very effecticent the penalties.
Speaker 1: They gotta get caught sooner. The first play of the game,
Speaker 1: we're shifting. I'm gonna jump off sides and they don't
Speaker 1: even run a player way jump off side. That's just
Speaker 1: the stupidity has to go away. We're gonna go anywhere, okay.
Speaker 1: But he didn't say, hey, I take the blame like
Speaker 1: he You know, we've been seeing coaches who say that, Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: we had a big I take the blame. Arthur Smith,
Speaker 1: Artie Smith of the Falcons. Yeah, this one's on me.
Speaker 1: He said, we were totally unprepared, and that's on me
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff. The follow up question is not
Speaker 1: when did you realize you're unprepared, which I'm hoping someday,
Speaker 1: like it was a pregame during the anthem, maybe no Thursday.
Speaker 1: I knew we were going to be unprepared for this game.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have gone on the flight to Dallas. Here.
Speaker 1: By the way, the people who do send me Jimmy
Speaker 1: Jimmerson clips, thank you, but you don't have to keep
Speaker 1: sending me Jimmy Jimmerson clips that this person said this,
Speaker 1: And there was an analyst who said, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to say the team because then you'll probably know
Speaker 1: who said it, but they said this defense is going
Speaker 1: to give you everything they can. And I thought if
Speaker 1: the quote was this defense won't give you everything they can,
Speaker 1: then that would have been you know something interesting. This
Speaker 1: defense tries when they want to, like, but you know,
Speaker 1: you don't realize, Like you feel like you got to
Speaker 1: fill up all the all the space all the time
Speaker 1: in a broadcast or pregame and some change you just
Speaker 1: say something, you go why somebody said this to me yesterday, Hey,
Speaker 1: on the coin toss, why don't you take downhill instead
Speaker 1: of the ball? You know, because we always say, oh,
Speaker 1: that team runs downhill, and they're like, why don't you
Speaker 1: just say, yeah, we won the toss, we want downhill.
Speaker 1: Seems like that'd be a real advantage for a team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if there's a stadium where it actually tilts, or
Speaker 1: one side of the field it's high than the other,
Speaker 1: I would like to know. That seems like a violation.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take downhill. Yes. Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach,
Speaker 1: yesterday after their tie, said hey, we didn't win, but
Speaker 1: we didn't lose. Okay, it's factually factually true. That is
Speaker 1: factually correct. Yeah, if you're a Lions fan, would you
Speaker 1: have rather lost the game than tied? Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's I felt bad because I do like Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1: I think he I mean, he cares, he tries hard,
Speaker 1: gets emotional. Jared Goff is a friend of the show.
Speaker 1: But you just watch and you go, there's somehow gonna
Speaker 1: lose in heartbreaking fashion. They tied in heartbreaking fashion. Normally
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen when you say we tied in heartbreaking fashion.
Speaker 1: Those are your lines, Yeah, PAULI. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't like a tie and think there should be
Speaker 1: a system where that eliminates any chance with tie. But
Speaker 1: isn't it fair because neither team deserved a victory yesterday?
Speaker 1: Those two teams didn't deserve a win in their column. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Peter King will join us and we'll talk to Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer a little bit later on everything okay with the
Speaker 1: Kansas City chiefs? Now? Is everything okay with Patrick Mahomes now? Probably? So,
Speaker 1: Probably won't hear much about that today as we have
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Speaker 1: I know I don't do it very often where you
Speaker 1: want to have a hot take every week at this
Speaker 1: time you go, I know exactly how that player is
Speaker 1: going to be or how that team is going to be.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't approach it that way because I
Speaker 1: remember when everybody jumped off Patrick Mahomes bandwagon and they
Speaker 1: thought they would take Justin Herbert over Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 1: I said, are you sticking with that now? Because we
Speaker 1: make these statements and then we feel like, well, nobody
Speaker 1: is listening or recording or remembering. And there are times
Speaker 1: when I go, I just don't know. I give you said,
Speaker 1: give me a declarative statement where you go that's going
Speaker 1: to happen this season at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of those comments that I
Speaker 1: would have. You know, do I think Green Bay is
Speaker 1: still going to be there at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Am I surprise at their defense? Yes? Do I think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to be there? The Patriots I
Speaker 1: thought are a playoff team. I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: that good, but they were good yesterday. Is Cam going
Speaker 1: to be the starter of the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just enjoying the ride, but it
Speaker 1: feels like I'm in the minority in this business if
Speaker 1: you don't have that declarative statement that says I know
Speaker 1: exactly how this is going to play out. Here's something
Speaker 1: for you before we get to the great Peter King.
Speaker 1: There's one team in the league that has led by
Speaker 1: at least seven points in every game this season. Anybody
Speaker 1: want to take a guess one team has had a
Speaker 1: lead of at least seven points in every single game
Speaker 1: this season. Paulie Titans, no Seaton Rams, no mclovin. This
Speaker 1: is just based on the way you're saying it. Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings are. They're also the first team to lead by
Speaker 1: at least seven points in each of the first nine
Speaker 1: games of a season while posting a losing record. Fast
Speaker 1: dat of the Day comes that what sta Peter King
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America Must Read column, NBC Sports dot Com.
Speaker 1: Pete joins us now Pete. The oddest game of the
Speaker 1: weekend was turned in by who oh, I would say
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I was stunned at the relative incompetence
Speaker 1: of the Browns. I mean, we all love the Browns
Speaker 1: going into this year. I don't know anybody who thought
Speaker 1: that they were going to be lousy, and who knows,
Speaker 1: they might not be lousy, but they're lousy right now
Speaker 1: and that really surprises me. Now, some of that has
Speaker 1: to be due to Baker Mayfield's physical health, I get it,
Speaker 1: but regardless of that, they've just not been good. And
Speaker 1: I think you know, last night, when I was just
Speaker 1: fiddling around a little bit, I was looking at the standings.
Speaker 1: And the one thing about the standings this morning that
Speaker 1: really surprises me. The Cleveland Browns have surrendered more points
Speaker 1: than they have scored. I mean, that just seems impossible
Speaker 1: to me. But hey, every week in the NFL and Dan, look,
Speaker 1: you talk about predictions. The one thing I will always
Speaker 1: remember about our time together at NBC, in in that
Speaker 1: viewing room, when we would sit together for years and
Speaker 1: watch the games every Sunday at about twelve fifty pm,
Speaker 1: you would come out with your upset of the day,
Speaker 1: and I swear you were right about seven out of
Speaker 1: every ten games. It was uncanny. It was like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago you would have said I like
Speaker 1: the Jets over the Bengals, and we would have all
Speaker 1: said you're out of your friggin mind, and yet you
Speaker 1: would have been right. Now, you weren't right all the time.
Speaker 1: That's impossible, but that is a little bit of a
Speaker 1: skill that you have that not many people do. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what to buy into now, because there's
Speaker 1: if these were stocks, these teams were stocks. Are you
Speaker 1: buying into the Cowboys? He's buying the Patriots. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely buying the Patriots. Now, am I buying the Patriots
Speaker 1: to play in February? No, I mean they might. I
Speaker 1: don't know whether they will or they won't. But I'm
Speaker 1: buying the Patriots because I think in recent weeks they
Speaker 1: have played so well defensively, and they have a quarterback
Speaker 1: who week after week after week. Yeah. I said this
Speaker 1: to somebody the other day on some talk show or other,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, he's far in away the
Speaker 1: best rookie quarterback in football and it's not even close.
Speaker 1: They say, well, wait a second. You know he's on
Speaker 1: a better team than Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. I said,
Speaker 1: I mean, would you have said that on Labor Day weekend?
Speaker 1: Maybe part of the reason he's on a better team
Speaker 1: is because he's better, and you know, he's I think
Speaker 1: he's been terrific. But if you look at what they
Speaker 1: have done defensively and how many weapons they have on defense,
Speaker 1: Like I named Kyle Dugger one of my defensive players
Speaker 1: of the Week this week. But as I said in
Speaker 1: my thing, I could name ten Patriots. So many guys
Speaker 1: are having an impact on defense on this team. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the Patriots, it's another thing.
Speaker 1: They've outscored the opposition by ninety eight points. Now, so
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is not any flukey thing.
Speaker 1: And you know the other thing about the Patriots, I
Speaker 1: was not a big fan of paying big money to
Speaker 1: Matthew Judon because the Ravens usually know when to hold them,
Speaker 1: when to fold them, and they usually fold them and
Speaker 1: they're usually right. Matthew Judon is a force of nature,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know. I think the Patriots are
Speaker 1: going to be hard to eliminate this year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're a playoff team. With what you saw with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs against the Raiders, is that more about the
Speaker 1: Raiders or more about the Chiefs? No, I think it was.
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely a little bit of both. I
Speaker 1: think that not necessarily on the field, but off the field,
Speaker 1: there has to be some sort of impact with everything
Speaker 1: that's happened to them. This is a franchise that's absolutely
Speaker 1: totally adrift. And Derek Carr has played two games in
Speaker 1: a row where you say, now, that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why we don't call him a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gone from being a legitimate guy who's
Speaker 1: in the discussion for MVP to say, why did he
Speaker 1: just throw that ball three feet over that guy's head?
Speaker 1: And look, everybody has bad games, everybody has slumps. I
Speaker 1: still think Derek Carter is pretty good, but I mean
Speaker 1: he's been bad the last two weeks, I think. But
Speaker 1: I mean I talked to Patrick Mahomes after the game
Speaker 1: last night, and I came away feeling like that the absolute,
Speaker 1: unequivocal best thing about Patrick Mahomes is that, you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't think the sky is falling. And you know,
Speaker 1: I asked him last night, Dan, I said, Hey, Patrick,
Speaker 1: I said, have you ever thought, in the last month,
Speaker 1: when you probably know the outside world thinks you guys
Speaker 1: are are you know, are bad and that it's over
Speaker 1: and you have fallen to earth, did you ever stare
Speaker 1: at the ceiling and say what's wrong with me? And
Speaker 1: he goes, no, I didn't pause end of answer. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know. And and so that's is that what you
Speaker 1: want in your quarterback. You want a quarterback who is
Speaker 1: introspective and who says, hmmm, why isn't this working? Hey, Andy,
Speaker 1: let's sit down and talk about why it isn't working.
Speaker 1: And they did many times. You know what Andy Reid
Speaker 1: told Patrick Mahomes this week before this game, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: take the check down if it's there, but be you
Speaker 1: And isn't that what you want in your coach? Don't
Speaker 1: you want that trust and faith in your coach. And look,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some rocky times that it be totally unnatural.
Speaker 1: No quarterback who's ever played has had three years and
Speaker 1: multiply that times times five, and that's your career for
Speaker 1: the first three years. It can happen. But I think
Speaker 1: he got everybody spoiled to that fact. But I thought
Speaker 1: he was terrific last night. What did you make of
Speaker 1: the Packers in Seattle game? Dan? In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: thought that I mean, as I wrote, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: played a half a season of games, and there's few games,
Speaker 1: if any, that have made so many loud statements as
Speaker 1: that game. Probably the loudest statement in that game is
Speaker 1: that the Green Bay Packers do not need vintage Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers to beat a good team. And I still think
Speaker 1: Seattle is a good team. They're not a great team,
Speaker 1: but they're a good team. And you know, and look
Speaker 1: at what happened with AJ Dillon. AJ Dillon basically was
Speaker 1: Jim Taylor in nineteen sixty five. You know, for those
Speaker 1: of us of a certain age, well, I was only
Speaker 1: eight then, but you know he was a big back
Speaker 1: doing big back things, carrying Bobby Wagner into the end zone.
Speaker 1: And then what else do you make of it? I
Speaker 1: mean you also make of it that you really have
Speaker 1: to question, first of all, whether they can respond this
Speaker 1: year and whether the Seahawks, in my opinion, should think
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should, but should they think of
Speaker 1: trading Russell Wilson for three ones and a good player
Speaker 1: in March? I mean, I think the automatic answer is absolutely,
Speaker 1: categorically not. You don't trade a great quarterback. You don't
Speaker 1: do it well if he's going to be really unhappy,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that he will be, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying that you shouldn't just dismiss it out of hand.
Speaker 1: John Schneider found Russell Wilson with the seventy seventh pick
Speaker 1: in the draft nine years ago, and I'm sure he
Speaker 1: has faith in his ability to find another quarterback in
Speaker 1: the draft. I don't know if that'll happen truly, but
Speaker 1: that game said a lot of made a lot of
Speaker 1: bold statements. To me, He's Peter King Football Morning in
Speaker 1: America is the column to read NBC Sports dot Com.
Speaker 1: How did this all play out with the Rams getting
Speaker 1: OBJ and what role do you think he plays tonight?
Speaker 1: I think he plays ten to twenty snaps. They're gonna
Speaker 1: play two one seventh round pick or receiver from Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: I forget the guy's name, and they're going to play
Speaker 1: another guy named JJ Koski. You know, these guys are
Speaker 1: not household names in their own household, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: play tonight. I think probably a lot of snaps. I
Speaker 1: think the Rams and I think Sean McVay is just
Speaker 1: a little bit concerned about force feeding too much. It's
Speaker 1: like what Matt Rule told me after the game they yesterday,
Speaker 1: they didn't decide what to do with Cam Newton until
Speaker 1: the morning of the game. Okay, are you comfortable if
Speaker 1: we put in these plays? You know, there's only like
Speaker 1: three or four plays that they that he had practiced,
Speaker 1: that he had studied, that he knew everything about. Are
Speaker 1: you comfortable? Yeah? Okay, then then let's have him have
Speaker 1: this in the game plan. And Newton was perfect at
Speaker 1: him Obviously he's done though before. But I think with Odell,
Speaker 1: I think he might play a few snaps just to
Speaker 1: kind of get his feet wet, but this I don't
Speaker 1: think Sean McVey wants to force him in before he's
Speaker 1: fully ready to play. Then they got the buy, and
Speaker 1: then I think he'll be ready to be a full
Speaker 1: time participant when they come back from the buy. How
Speaker 1: does this play out with John Gruden suing the NFL?
Speaker 1: I mean, I doubt he'll win. Dan It just you know,
Speaker 1: this reminds me so much of what Al Davis used
Speaker 1: to do with Pete Roselle, you know, the former Raiders owner,
Speaker 1: the former NFL commissioner. Al Davis made it personal. John
Speaker 1: Gruden is going to make it personal. As somebody who
Speaker 1: knows Gruden told me over the weekend. Why not. He's
Speaker 1: got nothing to lose. He knows he's not working in
Speaker 1: the game again, so he's gonna lob model have cocktails
Speaker 1: at Park Avenue and he doesn't care who's hurt in
Speaker 1: the process. How about him? He just woke up one
Speaker 1: day and all of a sudden he wasn't the coach
Speaker 1: of the Raiders anymore, you know, And it reminds me
Speaker 1: of what George Young, the general manager, used to the
Speaker 1: Giants used to say when when we would talk to
Speaker 1: him about one controversy or another, and he goes, I'm
Speaker 1: just over here picking my nose, and I get in trouble. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously Gruden did something to cause that, So I'm not
Speaker 1: saying certainly that he's blameless, but I think he just
Speaker 1: feels right now, Dan, why not throw everything up against
Speaker 1: the league and see if we can make something stick.
Speaker 1: But I continue to say, in my opinion, it's it's
Speaker 1: senseless to think that the league release these these emails. Now,
Speaker 1: you know somebody connected with the league who knows. I
Speaker 1: don't have any idea who did it, honestly, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as logical to think that they would
Speaker 1: release emails that would really besmirched the reputation of their
Speaker 1: chief legal counsel, Jeff Pash, who everybody in that in
Speaker 1: that office loves. So I would be surprised if he
Speaker 1: would win the lawsuit. I just has anybody come up
Speaker 1: with any logic that they knew this in the summer,
Speaker 1: They knew these emails existed with John Gruden, but they
Speaker 1: kept then they brought him up during the season. But
Speaker 1: would they have brought them up, would they have brought
Speaker 1: them up. If there wasn't noise about them leaking, that's
Speaker 1: the question to answer. I think it was a Thursday
Speaker 1: night when Andrew beat into the Wall Street Journal called
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Might have been Wednesday, I forget when it
Speaker 1: was exactly, and then by Monday Gruden was gone. I'm
Speaker 1: just not sure that the NFL would have released or
Speaker 1: would you know, would have sent those emails to the
Speaker 1: Raiders at that time. You know, maybe they would have
Speaker 1: done it at another time, and maybe you could argue that, hey,
Speaker 1: they should have gone out and presented to Mark Davis
Speaker 1: all the evidence they had in June and said what
Speaker 1: do you want to do about this? And what he
Speaker 1: would have done. I don't know, but that is a
Speaker 1: justifiable criticism on the NFL. You know, they basically let
Speaker 1: the email sit there and percolate, and then somehow, some
Speaker 1: way they got in the hands of the media and
Speaker 1: that's when all heck broke loose. I'm guessing that Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer is okay. In Jacksonville. They put up a good
Speaker 1: fight and he had a pretty good month considering what
Speaker 1: happened prior to that. But Jacksonville played the Colts. You know,
Speaker 1: they went toe to toe. What do you make of
Speaker 1: the Jags moving on second half of the season. Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: they won two games in the last among the last four,
Speaker 1: they're two and two. You know, they got beat up
Speaker 1: by Seattle and they brought Indianapolis right to the end.
Speaker 1: I would doubt, sincerely at all that Shad Khan, who
Speaker 1: has placed a lot of faith in urban Meyer to
Speaker 1: fix this, that he's having any thoughts of moving on.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that urban Meyer barring something weird. And again
Speaker 1: I say barring something weird, because with urban Meyer there
Speaker 1: might be something weird. There has been something weird already,
Speaker 1: so but no, I don't think he's in any danger
Speaker 1: as long as things continue sort of the way they are. Pete,
Speaker 1: always good to talk to you, and we appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Is always thank you, buddy. Okay, Dan, thank you. That's
Speaker 1: Peter King Football Morning in America and of course contributor
Speaker 1: to NBC Sports Football Night America. Yeah. I don't think
Speaker 1: anything's happening to urban Meyer. But I do think that,
Speaker 1: you know, he got off the canvas and they calmed
Speaker 1: things down. That's why the NFL is week to week
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of what the headline is because if
Speaker 1: you go back and you go, Okay, what's the headline
Speaker 1: this week? And then the NFL gets to Sunday, those
Speaker 1: headlines go away because other headlines come up. And if
Speaker 1: you go back to September with Urban Meyer to where
Speaker 1: we are today, where they have a chance to beat Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: they beat Buffalo and I'm not saying he's a great coach,
Speaker 1: and you know he's the next Lombardi, but it feels
Speaker 1: like he moved past something that felt really tenuous. And
Speaker 1: this is what happens with the NFL headline this week.
Speaker 1: It'll last for three or four days, five then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you play a game. You know the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're in the last place, and I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're half a game out of first place. Like
Speaker 1: this guy is in falling on the Chiefs yet and
Speaker 1: you saw that yesterday beating the Raiders in convincing fashion.
Speaker 1: Now here's the headline to keep an eye on for
Speaker 1: next week. Dallas Kansas City meet one another. If Dallas
Speaker 1: plays great, they're going to be the super Bowl favorite.
Speaker 1: If Kansas City wins the game, then we're going to
Speaker 1: reassess Kansas City and say, are they the team to
Speaker 1: beat in the AFC, guaranteed to happen. Even though green
Speaker 1: Bay might be the best team right now, Tampa is
Speaker 1: going to get healthier. I don't know what to make
Speaker 1: of Arizona. Like there's certain teams where you go. Maybe
Speaker 1: Dallas feels like they are a quality playoff team, a
Speaker 1: super Bowl contender, but if they don't win this game,
Speaker 1: if they somehow get blown out, then we're going to
Speaker 1: have a referendum on them. Or you know, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: moving forward in the Chiefs. That'll be your headline probably
Speaker 1: next week because those are two really popular teams. They're
Speaker 1: going to get and people are going to have an
Speaker 1: opinion on that. Well, take a break, play the day
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Speaker 1: consecutive week, four teams Carolina, Miami, Minnesota, and Washington came
Speaker 1: into the week with a five hundred or below winning percentage,
Speaker 1: and all four defeated teams that began the week in
Speaker 1: first place or tied for first place. Kind of felt
Speaker 1: like a stat of the day, maybe, say maybe not
Speaker 1: the day stat of the day. Stat of the day
Speaker 1: comes that. What stat of the day? Somebody who's a
Speaker 1: little slow on the trigger over there on the other side,
Speaker 1: I got the first one, then yeah, we wasn't slow
Speaker 1: on the trigger for that one. Well, but I like,
Speaker 1: is there a one stat of the day maximum per hour,
Speaker 1: or is it stats of the day or stat of
Speaker 1: the day. There's stats of the days, which would be
Speaker 1: multiple days in a row. Yeah, sure, stats of the hour.
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point you've had two this hour
Speaker 1: Stats of the hour. How about we throw in one more.
Speaker 1: Baker in Montana joins us with a stat of the day. Hi, Baker,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today that be Monday, there, mister
Speaker 1: dan Um. Yeah, I've got a stat of the day
Speaker 1: that indirectly relates to Justin Tucker's recent sixty six yard
Speaker 1: record setting field goal in the NFL. But first, first,
Speaker 1: more importantly related, congratulations for you and the well deserved
Speaker 1: induction into the Radio Hall of Fame. It's a fantastic distinction,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Baker. And in my book, by the way,
Speaker 1: you and the Danettes are pound for pound, the single
Speaker 1: greatest team in sports radio history, pounds for pilled. That
Speaker 1: was a shot. That was a shot. I know. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear a shot. I know want to
Speaker 1: hear a shot on a Monday morning. Yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So what's your stat of the day? Baker? Well? First,
Speaker 1: hold up, can we get queued up the original Jamie
Speaker 1: Johston metal version please, I've got I'm ready to hit
Speaker 1: the post. When Texas Tech beat Iowa State on Saturday
Speaker 1: with a walk up sixty two yard field goal, I
Speaker 1: thought it might be a college record, but the actual
Speaker 1: record for the longest bowl in college history is sixty
Speaker 1: seven yards, a beat unintended that was actually achieved by
Speaker 1: three different teams, all in the nineteen seventy seventy. Well done, Baker,
Speaker 1: well done there. Stat of the day. Russell ierk Slaban
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. Tony Franklin might be the
Speaker 1: other guy. I don't know the third kicker to have
Speaker 1: a field goal of that range. So there, he's got one.
Speaker 1: I'm just googling it. Is there someone? What's the first
Speaker 1: name you said, Russell erk Slaban over Johansson of Abilene Christians. Okay,
Speaker 1: I sixty seven yard or I think so? Okay? Oh,
Speaker 1: how is this possible that three dudes hit sixty seven
Speaker 1: yard field goals in nineteen seventy seven and it hasn't
Speaker 1: happened since. But Russell erk Slaban, I think it was
Speaker 1: drafted by the Saints from Texas and Tony Franklin played
Speaker 1: for the Eagles barefoot kicker. Uh yeah, all right, there
Speaker 1: was sure another stats of the day there, best and
Speaker 1: Worst of the weekend, I know, but I didn't call
Speaker 1: for them. We already had a stat of it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I heard you say that's another stat of the day,
Speaker 1: so I thought, oh, I just traded something. You didn't
Speaker 1: get the music again, Alan Atlanta leads us off best
Speaker 1: and Worst of the weekend Hi, al morning, Dan morning.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Best the leakend? I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I have to have one. That was getting to watch
Speaker 1: my first ever Everton Women's FC FA Cup game ended
Speaker 1: in a draw against main United Women's FC. But you
Speaker 1: know that's that's the best part. And then the worst.
Speaker 1: I thought seeing another twenty eight to three and a
Speaker 1: Falcons game, this time with the Falcons down twenty eight
Speaker 1: to three would be the worst feeling I had on
Speaker 1: the Sunday. Wrong. Wrong, Wait two minutes there's a block punt,
Speaker 1: We're down thirty six to three, and then the next
Speaker 1: thing you know, the game ends forty three to three.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't even think that was possible. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can't have any I mean, thank you all, but
Speaker 1: you can't have that much hope with the Falcons already
Speaker 1: beating the Saints Cowboys coming off a loss, you go
Speaker 1: to Dallas and you got roughed up, Like you can't
Speaker 1: be surprised, all right, Jeff and Detroit, Like Jeff can't
Speaker 1: be surprised that the Lions gave him misery in a
Speaker 1: different way with a tie against Pittsburgh. Daniel Danny not
Speaker 1: at all happy. Marday. You guys, listen, it's to the
Speaker 1: point that Alan Atlanta just calmed down. If your team,
Speaker 1: the team is like mine and it truly sucks, dude,
Speaker 1: I promise you it'll be all right. I mean, we
Speaker 1: are never getting out of the basement. Listen, man, how
Speaker 1: is it that you loose but you don't win and
Speaker 1: still don't get anywhere with decision? I apologize, I'm out
Speaker 1: of loss of words because that football that we saw
Speaker 1: yesterday was some of the worst, was really some of
Speaker 1: the worst. And I guess my next question for you
Speaker 1: is who do you have a bigger question for the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns or Bill Belichick and the Patriots? All right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jeff. Look, I thought both teams were going
Speaker 1: to be playoff teams. But Cleveland has been disappointing the defense,
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that, and Peter King brought this up,
Speaker 1: you're outscoring the opposition by close to one hundred points.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's been outscored this year. But they have those moments
Speaker 1: where you go, Okay, let me wait till everybody's healthy.
Speaker 1: And you know, there are some teams that won't be
Speaker 1: completely healthy. But if Cleveland gets their running backs back,
Speaker 1: and you know, Baker's going to be limited the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. But the defense, where's Myles Garrett Defensive
Speaker 1: player of the year after the first couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: somebody got a step up here. One hour in the books,
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