1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty Armstrong and 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Jackie and Key arms Drawn, get it who I'm from? 4 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: The studio scene says you are. We are in a 5 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: dimly lit room deeper. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Than the bowels of the Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: on Tuesday and under. 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: The tutelage of our general manager. 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: The hard parts, the hard part, Oh, our general manager 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: is a concept. 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: That's right. 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: We're going very igh minded here, very intellectual as in comma. 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: Here comes the hard part. What are we talking about? 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: Oh, the negotiations over the fate of Ukraine. The diplomacy 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: that took place yesterday was very impressive, very interesting. The 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: more I look into it, the deeper I dive, the 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: more interesting it becomes. 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: But now the. 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Hard part, and I'm looking at the television. Some of 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: the pictures out of that thing are really something. I mean, 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: that's quite the historic meeting in terms of the group 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: of power that came together at the White House in 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: a way that has never happened in the history of 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: the world. Right, really wild. I was watching some analysis 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: on News Nation Today and the guy said, and I 26 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: don't think enough people are saying this. Does Putin have 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: any interest in any of this? Has anybody checked? Because 28 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: there's a chance he has no interest in this whatsoever. 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: And if he doesn't, does any of this matter at all? Well, right, 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: you have to at least it partially except the premise 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: that he wants to end this and fairly quickly if 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: he can. 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he does. 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: And if he doesn't have any interest at all, are 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: you practically at square one. 36 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: In terms of forcing him to end it? Or do 37 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: he just walk away? That what a great question. 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, because from Putin's point of view, it's 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 3: not like he has two choices go along with the 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: Trump plan or keep fighting. No, he has six or 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: seven choices, I mean, various shades of doing this, agreeing 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: to that, violating that in six months, you know, stringing 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: along the negotiations that start. 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: I don't think. 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: I don't even think most of the analysis approaches it 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: as if he has two choices. Most of the analysis 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: seems to approach it as this, as if he's on 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: board with wanting this to end. And it's just how, 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, what the what the construct of the ending 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 2: looks like it's like he has one choice. Is the 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: way it's being presented that he's already chosen. He wants 52 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: to end, everybody wants to end. It's what does that 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: look like? And he hasn't made any noises whatsoever that 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: is an interest at all. 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: No, there's probably a long Russian word for pretending to agree. 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: So other side show cards. 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just I think what happened here, 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: not that it's a bad thing, but he was just 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: curious to say. 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: All right, well, well they cook up, let's find out. 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: We're just delaying like a man and a woman. And 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: she's they're having a bit of an argument over you know, 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: are they gonna have flowers on the table at the 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: wedding or just out front? And that's a lot of 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: money and she's never said yes. Maybe she's not gonna 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: say yes. You're arguing about stuff. Doesn't matter if she 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: doesn't say yes. And uh, I think that's might be 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: where we are on this now. Trump did say just 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: a little bit ago and we'll play some clips, and 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: a called into Fox and Friends that something along the 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: lines of, uh, I hope Trump is good and if 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: he's not, it's gonna be it's gonna be ugly and 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: whatever ugly means, Houtin Putin, Yeah, Trump said, putting in 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: the I hope he's gonna be good and if he's not, 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: it's going to be ugly. 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: Well, the whole question is security guarantees. 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: I mean, which Trump throughout for the first YadA, YadA, YadA, 78 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: security guarantees. That's an enormous topic, right, Putin's gonna have 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: some strong opinions about to say the. 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Least Trump throughout for the first time ever. Uh. 81 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: The idea of the United States being part of a 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: backup security guarantee, So that's a heck of a thing. 83 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: And Wall Street Journal writing about that today. We'll get 84 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: to that later. But man boots on the ground of 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: European countries, I guess France and Great Britain and security 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: backup security guarantees from the United States. I saw former 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: uh what was Bolton under Trump? A national security advisor 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: saw him on one of the talk shows last night 89 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: saying guarantees from the United States of British and French 90 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: troops are if they get if they're getting their asses kicked, 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: we we come in and fight. Also, that's what that means, 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: and so that's a pretty big deal. 93 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: That's a long way from where we were a year ago. Yeah. Yeah. 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: And the question of what exactly Zelensky will agree to 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: or get his country to vote for, since that's what 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: their constitution says. 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's an enormous open question too. It's huge. 98 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: We've just and then there's the you know, to continue 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: to your wedding, you know, metaphor. And there's a question 100 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: of kids, which we'll decide down the road anyway. Uh no, no, no, no, 101 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: oh wait wait wait right, so now comes the hard part. 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an understatement. 103 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 2: If the if the other, if she has no interest 104 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: in getting married whatsoever, it's not the hard part. It's like, 105 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: what are we doing here? And I'm not sure Putin 106 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: has any interest in ending this? Well, right, yeah, And 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: it's an interesting point. It's not as if it is inevitable. 108 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: If you wrestle manfully enough with the issues and negotiate 109 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: skillfully and generously long enough, you will come to an argrant. 110 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: It's possible the parties actually will get together and decide. 111 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: We have no overlap here, we have no common ground none, 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: and we despise each other. 113 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: In fact, is that not the most likely outcome. 114 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: You agreed on the kids and the flowers and the 115 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: caterer and how big the guest list was going to be. 116 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: But you're a no on getting married. 117 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a no. Well then what was all that? 118 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: You're the one who brought it up. I didn't A 120 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: troubling metaphor and disappointing. I didn't start the conversation about 121 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: flowers and catering. 122 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: You did, so I went along with it. But I 123 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: never said I had any interest in getting married. What 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: did we spend on the invitations? 125 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Again? 126 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: Man, that's your deal, that's your whole idea. I really 127 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: think I even like you. 128 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 4: Boy. 129 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I just can't belie. 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: Leave that Putin and Zelenski are going to be in 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: a room together alone. 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: It's brutal to contemplate, doesn't it? Just the. 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: Hatred legitimate from Zelensky side. Oh, how would you not 134 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: have depatred for that guy? You would think the best 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: thing I could do for my country is if I 136 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: could attack him in time, to stick my thumbs through 137 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: his eye sockets and scramble his brain. That'd be the 138 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: best thing I could do for my country. Require unusually 139 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: long thumbs. But I see your point. Yeah, yeah, Do 140 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: they shake hands? 141 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: How could you possibly shake hands with your put and 143 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: sent a missile into an apartment complex yesterday killed a 144 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: whole family, including a little girl. 145 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: Man, how could you shake hands with that guy? Well, 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: and they have abducted to twenty thirty forty fifty thousand. 147 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: Nobody's quite sure. How many Ukrainian children? Can you imagine 148 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: if somebody did that to the US friends, and then 149 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: our president was forced to shake his hand and beg 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: him for a deal. 151 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: And stand side by side for a picture. No, it's 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: impossible to imagine. 153 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: We wouldn't I know a. 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: Lot of you that would fight to the death before 155 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: you watched that scene. 156 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Right, I don't know. 157 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: And so I think what I heard today was that 158 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: Putin asked for the one on one with Zelensky. I 159 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: think he's asking for that with the idea of all 160 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: this will be something. How's he going to react to this? 161 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Putin a TV boy, let's get it on. 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: Putin has all the cards in terms of trying to 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: make Zelensky nuts. Oh yeah, I mean if he sits 164 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: down and talks, Yeah, and talks about how you know 165 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: you started this war or any of that kind of crap, 166 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 2: or we're only bombing military installations, or just any of 167 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: the lies that he throws out. 168 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: Got it be impossible not to lose your head. Yeah? 169 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what would the security look like there? How's 170 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: school enrollment in Ukraine? It's great in Russia. You got 171 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: lots of great new kids here, yeah exactly. Yeah, teaching 172 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: them all about Russia and how it's one country with 173 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: Ukraine and teaching them the language to Russian. 174 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: Of course, that seems you should go berserk. Yeah, I 175 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: just I can't imagine that that's happening. And Trump's talking 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: about it like it's going to wow. How about well, 177 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: let's uh, well before we take a break. 178 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: So the. 179 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Did the hot mic moment? I suppose if you follow 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: the news, everybody's heard it. So Trump's tropping talking to 181 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Macron as they're getting ready to sit down and everything 182 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: like that, and he says to Macron something along the 183 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: lines of yeah, I talked to him, and I think 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: he really wants to for me, he wants to do 185 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: a deal. 186 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: I think Trump's out of his mind, thinking. 187 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: That puts that easily manipulated, thinking that Putin, as a 188 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: personal favor to Trump, is willing to do some sort 189 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: of deal because of Trump's you know, because of their bond. 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: That's scary. It is scary. I don't know how Trump 191 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: I could possibly think that. Yeah, yeah, now. 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: I did hear one of your report that Trump was 193 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: livid on the plane back from Alaska on Friday, felt 194 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: like he'd really been jerked around, that Putin had led 195 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: him to believe that he was interested in doing something 196 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: and then got there and wasn't interested in anything. 197 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how you. 198 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: Got led to believe. I mean, we don't know what 199 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: exactly they're saying on all these phone calls. They were 200 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: on the phone together for forty minutes yesterday. 201 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: But why do you believe this guy? He's a freaking snake. 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Well, unless we want to end up 203 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: in a FCC gulag, we probably want to start the 204 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: show officially. 205 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this It is Tuesday, 206 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: August nineteenth, the year twenty twenty five, or Armstrong in 207 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: getting We approve of this program, and. 208 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: The show begins officially now according to de FCC rules, 209 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: The Raggs at Mark Mail. 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: In Ballance are corrupt mail in ballas. 211 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: You could never have a real. 212 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: Democracy with mail in ballas. 213 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: You know that we're the only country in the world, 214 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I believe I may be, but just about the only 215 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: country in the world that. 216 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 5: Uses it because of what's happened, massive fraud. 217 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: All over the place. 218 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so we just threw out another really really controversial 219 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: hot topic. 220 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: Wow. 221 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little uh uhuh headfake there, and and drove 222 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: toward domestic policy eliminating mail in ballots I assume, aside 223 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: from people who actually need them now troops seving is 224 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: serving overseas, et cetera. But yeah, that'll be a that'll 225 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: be a big one. 226 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: And we can certainly discuss all the ins and out 227 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: so that a little bit later, and whatever other news 228 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: of the day there is, and there's a there's a 229 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: fair amount out there, as there is always, but that 230 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: that meeting at the Oval Office yesterday was just absolutely 231 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: mind blowing in terms of its significance and power, all 232 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 2: gathered together in one place. Some of the analysis that 233 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: exists out there from all the smart people, we can 234 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: pass that along to you. We'd like to hear from you. 235 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: Text line four one, five, two nine five k FTC. 236 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: They are the first place Dodgers and a wagon jumping 237 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 2: fake fan. That's what I say. I'm too busy to 238 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: root for teams that lose. 239 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: I ain't got that kind of time. Wow. Wow, that's great. 240 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: That's exactly what being a fan is. Being a fan. 241 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 242 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: I used to be super into that sort of thing, 243 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: but now that I'm not. It just I can't even imagine, however, 244 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: was It's like being a fan of a band and 245 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: then getting angry if another band puts out a good album. 246 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't. I don't understand. He's 247 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: a monster, folks, He's no American. I don't. I don't know. 248 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know. 249 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's figure out who's reporting what. It's the lead 250 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: story with Katie Green Katie all right, starting with ABC. 251 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Quote. 252 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: Truly a significant step, Zelensky says of White House meeting with. 253 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: Trump again, it is very significant if Putin has any 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: interest in this also, and if he doesn't, I'm not 255 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 2: sure we accomplish anything well. 256 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: And to you know, rephrase that, if Putin has any 257 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: interest in anything that would have any interest for the 258 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Ukrainian side, right, I mean even if he thinks, yeah, 259 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: we could probably come to a deal, and oh, I 260 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: wants forty percent of Ukraine. 261 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: Well it's over and no troops in the country. 262 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: From the Free Beacon, The Associated Press suggests Gossen Evacuie 263 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: died of starvation without ever mentioning that she suffered from leukemia. 264 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a hell of an exposa in the 265 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: Free Press on the absolutely systematic use of people suffering 266 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: from other diseases in major publications and broadcast networks to 267 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: illustrate Israel's cruelty, even though it has nothing to do 268 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 3: with that knowing. It's not two examples, it's dozen. Is 269 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: it knowingly or is it just they don't do their homework. 270 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 3: I think it's they don't bother checking Hamas feeds it 271 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: and they gobble it right. 272 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: From the Washing and Post. As more National Guard units. 273 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 5: Deployed to DC, local officials. 274 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: Are questioning the need. 275 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just saw that other Red states are sending 276 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: troops to d three of them. 277 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 278 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys remember that trans flag that popped up 279 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 5: in Yosemite. 280 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: Yeah from NBC. 281 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: Park ranger fired after draping transgender flag on Yosemites El Capitan. 282 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: Oh, good good. It's not your job. You obviously care 283 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: more about that issue than being a park ranger. We'll 284 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: find somebody else who's mostly interested in being a park ranger. 285 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: From bright part dot com, godfather of AI Jeffrey Hinton 286 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: wants machines to quote care for us like we are 287 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: their babies. 288 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: And what the hell does that mean? He was saying, 289 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: you're a duck. 290 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, like letting them take control is how we're going 291 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: to survive AI. 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I send that to me. I want to 293 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: read then. Okay. 294 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: From the New York Post DJ to start handing over 295 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein files to Congress. 296 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's still a thing. 297 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? 298 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 5: From the New York Times? Goodbye MSNBC? Hello MS? 299 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: Now, I saw that, So it's not When does it 300 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: start being called that now? Already it's called MS. Nobody 301 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: watches these channels anyway. 302 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: Only radio hosts talk about them. 303 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: It just said that they're changing it this year. 304 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: Okay, they're losing all the assets of NBC News though, 305 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: So what emerges? I mean nobody watches it now? I 306 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: mean it's NBC held on to was it Telemundo but 307 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: got rid of MSNBC if you'd want to know an 308 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: idea of the pecking order. 309 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 5: There from the Wall Street Journal, your late night cheese 310 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 5: fix might. 311 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: Be linked to your nightmares. 312 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's funny. You gotta talk about that. 313 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 5: Study fines young men are t maxing testosterone. 314 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: What's that they're saying? 315 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: Kids like young teenagers are upping their testosterone levels by 316 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: like taking supplements. 317 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: How do they get them? 318 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: They it's called t maxing. 319 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: Are they those phony supplements that don't actually do any good? 320 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: I'll have to dig into that. 321 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: And finally, the babylon Bee Democrats say mail in ballot 322 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: ban will place undue hardship on dead voters. 323 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: Oh. 324 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what to think about the mail in 325 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: ballot I generally I would like voting to go back 326 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: to just we all go stand in line on one day. 327 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know if we're ever going to get 328 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: there again. 329 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: Well, the problem with all of it is that that's 330 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: determined by the states right in charge of voting, right 331 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: as it should be. 332 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: Right. 333 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into that more. All those topics. We 334 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: can delve into it to a certain extent. That AI 335 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: thing was nutty, So more details on the way and 336 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of different stuff. If I hope you 337 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: can stick around, and if you can't, you want to 338 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: get a segment or an hour, get the podcast Armstrong 339 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: and Getty on. 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: Demand Armstrong and Getty. 341 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: Class Night do Bike used bike about a bike? I'm 342 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: gonna become bike riding guy. Be one of those guys 343 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: where is a really skin tight clothes walks around the Starbucks. 344 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh I'm not, actually, but I pictured you more shirtless 345 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: over Tenned Methy. Probably stolen bike guy. Right, you're going 346 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: like Tour de front riding a kid's bike. I'm somewhere 347 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: in between. I'm going to be in probably jeans, tennis 348 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: shoes and a T shirt. But I am on a 349 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: real bike, not a child's bike. I took out of 350 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: someone's backyard. The suburban gentleman look exactly. 351 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: That is why not perfect. 352 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to our favorite military analyst, Mike 353 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: Lyons next our perfect timing since a lot of US 354 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: security guarantees and NATO's security guarantees, well not NATO, but 355 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 2: NATO country guarantees were brought up yesterday, and we need 356 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: to talk to a military guy about what that would 357 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: look like, what that actually means. So I'm looking forward 358 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: to that conversation right. 359 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: Indeed, so switching to the domestic scene, at least temporarily, 360 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: there are a number of stories that show enormous progress. 361 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: Towards sanity. 362 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: We were talking yesterday about an absolutely blockbuster report in 363 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: the Hill about how vast majorities of college kids don't 364 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: believe the garbage they've been indoctrinated in, but they're afraid 365 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: to say it. 366 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: That is one of the more important things for people 367 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: to know that I can remember. I mean, this is 368 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: important information. 369 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we hammered. 370 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 3: This pretty good yesterday, but seventy eight percent of students 371 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: told us a self censor on their belief surrounding gender identity, 372 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: seventy two percent on politics in general, sixty eight percent 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 3: on family values. They value what are traditionally known as 374 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: family values, but they dare not speak it on college campus, 375 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: and more than eighty percent so they'd submitted classwork that 376 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: mis represented their views in order to align with professors. 377 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: You give them a chance and they will tell you 378 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: what they really think. And we are on the cusp. 379 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 3: I think of a huge move toward the youngsters or 380 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 3: recognizing what's being done at colleges. It's not education at all, 381 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: it's in doctrination. But those poll numbers were stunning and encouraging. 382 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: Well. 383 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: The important thing to me, though, is just realizing that 384 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: as human nature, that we're all so susceptible. 385 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: I don't know about all, but so many people are 386 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: susceptible to this. 387 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, of keeping your mouth shut if you think most 388 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: people don't agree with you. I keep my mouth shut 389 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: in most social situations about political stuff. But right, well, 390 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: and the whole concept of a preference distortion, which I 391 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: find so interesting that you because everybody around you is silent, 392 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: you think, oh, I'm probably one of the only people 393 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: who believes this because they agree with the powerful people 394 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: who are telling us all what we ought to believe. 395 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: But no, you're all sitting there thinking the same thing. 396 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 397 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: And I don't know how many times, probably everybody's had 398 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: this situation where that is going on, and somebody says, 399 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a gun owner, and I'm me too, 400 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: me too, and that's oh, geez, okay, so we're not 401 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: all well, and that's whatever the topic is. 402 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: And that's the crazy thing. 403 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: You know too, If you find yourself in college and thinking, 404 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: you know this this stuff about you know, the gender 405 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: bending madness, a man can just become a woman and 406 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 3: that's really a woman, and all the other stuff they 407 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: teach these poor kids, all the critical theory stuff. If 408 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: you have the courage to stand up and be that 409 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: rebel and think, you know what, ten percent of us 410 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 3: are together, I'm going to stand up and say so, 411 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, eighty five percent of the 412 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: class is on your side. 413 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: You are a rebel, but you know you're not nearly 414 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: as lone as you think. 415 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't blame people though, I mean, well, it's 416 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: not blame them at all. First of all, everything that's 417 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: been presented to all of us led us to believe 418 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: that this is what most people on college campuses thought. 419 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: Was this stuff. 420 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: Well that's part of the insidious plot. That's what propaganda is. 421 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: Sure, and telling everybody, including the teachers who are going 422 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: to grade you, that they're wrong, completely wrong, is not 423 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: always your best move, right. Oh yeah, Well that's why 424 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the kids submitted work that they didn't believe, 425 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: because they had to get some to get their grades 426 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: and move on in life. Nearly four out of five. 427 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't believe this, but I'm gonna pretend I do 428 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: to get along. That's amazing. 429 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but that's you know, that's. 430 00:21:53,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: Indoctrination, especially of youth, is all about fighting unfairly and 431 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: bullying and convincing kids that everybody believes it, and anybody 432 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: who dissents as a bad person. So yeah, I don't 433 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: blame the kids at all. No, I want to fight 434 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: against the evil doers or bullying them anyway. 435 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Uh mor good. 436 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: News, and if San Francisco's doing it, it's gonna spread. 437 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: San Francisco has embraced a new tool to clear homeless camps. 438 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: I've noticed city officials pointing to cleaner streets. Is evidence 439 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: that more active approach is working. I feel like my reporter, 440 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 3: I say it's cruel and nasty. 441 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: I feel like my reporting, with my own circumstances, was 442 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: leading the way long before the Wall Street Journal or 443 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: others picked up on this. On the East coast, San 444 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: Francisco's a complete If you haven't been in a long time, 445 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: it's a completely different looking city than it was a 446 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: year ago. 447 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 448 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: Indeed, between July of last year and July of this year, 449 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: the city arrested or cited more than one thousand and 450 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: eighty people on illegal lodging charges. That's over ten times 451 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: the number of arrests during the same period a year 452 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: early under the progressive former administration. Last time I was 453 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: in downtown San Francisco, I saw a homeless person one 454 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 3: and that person was being talked to by somebody from 455 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: the city about how you got to get out of here. 456 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: So the residents and business owners complaining about safety as 457 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: encampments grew have finally been heard now. Of course, the 458 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: activists say, you're merely shifting the homeless population around the 459 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: city and putting homeless people a greater risk. Shut up 460 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: a most of them need to shrug addicts. Yeah, yeah, 461 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: shut up. So San Francisco is doing a good job. 462 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: It is possible, even under some of the bizarre court 463 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: rulings recently. And also and this is out of San 464 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Francisco as well. Once seen as a model of progressive 465 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: drug policy, San Francisco stands now as a morbid example 466 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: of how harm reduction has gone astray. 467 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: This is one of the. 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: Shibboleths, one of the gods of the left is that 469 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: you've got to help junkies do drugs safely and comfortably. 470 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: Look I get the clean needles thing, I get the 471 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: impulse there. 472 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: What's the theory on that? 473 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: Though? 474 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Well, how's that supposed to end? 475 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: That? 476 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: People will on their own decide, you know what, I 477 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: don't want to live in my own filth on the 478 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: street at some point, yes, okay, yes, exactly. 479 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 480 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: In fact, this Gal who's the executive director of the 481 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: National Harm Reduction Coalition, called the shift in San Francisco 482 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: away from the harm reduction quote moronic and antithetical to 483 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: what we know works. But the problem in San Francisco 484 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: and other progressive cities is that harm reduction has become 485 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: completely divorced from recovery. 486 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: What began as a. 487 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: Campaign to keep people live long enough to recover from 488 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: addiction has devolved into a philosophy that no longer considers 489 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: recovery as necessary. 490 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: Or even desirable. 491 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: Question of whether or not harm reduction is successful comes 492 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: down to whether it's treated as a gateway to recovery 493 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: or as an alternative to it. 494 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: So there you go. 495 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: It has become an alternative to getting off of drugs. 496 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: What percentage? So I'm I'm not a big financed by 497 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: you the taxpayer. I'm not big on the uh on 498 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: rehabs and that sort of stuff, because they are incredibly unsuccessful, 499 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: and nobody pays any attention to that. But of people 500 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: that I mean, not just for regular people, of people 501 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: that are so far down the whole drug road that 502 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: you're sleeping on the street next to another drug addict, 503 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 2: how many of those people ever clean up? I wonder 504 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: half a one percent. I'll bet it's I'll bet it's very, 505 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: very low. 506 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm guessing you know, a pretty good chunk of 507 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: them continue using into their forties fifties, and then they 508 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: succumb to you know, the sort of thing middle aged 509 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: addicts do. As you know, a corner once said, in 510 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: response to the question who's your most common customer, they 511 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: said male fifties alcoholic, and I'm sure drug addict. Now, 512 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: because that was, gosh, fifteen years ago, I think they 513 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: would probably say, yeah, middle aged drug addict or a 514 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: young drug addict. Anyway, more good news, though. Don't want 515 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: to get focused on the bad news. Want to get 516 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: focused on the fact that a lot of the insane 517 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: policies of the left are being abandoned, even in places 518 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: like San Francisco. Different topic, but kind of the same area. 519 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: Boston Children's Hospital. The Harvard Medical Research and Training Hospital 520 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: that specializes in children's care, had previously insisted that they 521 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: do not perform genital surgeries as part of gender affirming 522 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: care on patients under the age of eighteen, but a 523 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: journal of Clinical Medicine Studies published a couple of years 524 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 3: ago that was improved. Blah blah blah describes chest surgeries 525 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: for those who were fifteen, as well as genital surgeries 526 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 3: for those over seventeen, And the Trump administration has subpoenaed 527 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: all sorts of information from them, and because of that, 528 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: at least partly, and this is from the New York Times, 529 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: uh reload plays there. It is hospitals are limiting gender 530 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: treatment for transminers. Both of those phrases ought to be 531 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: in quotes because they're made up. Even in blue states, 532 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: three prominent medical centers in California recently announced they would 533 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 3: stop the treatments, citing pressure from the Trump administration and 534 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: from from sanity. 535 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: So that's good. 536 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: There's a lot of real madness being rolled back. Good 537 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: progress domestically. 538 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: Love it. 539 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 2: Let's not focus on the grim stuff. So you mentioned 540 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: before the show you got a cold, I do. It 541 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: seems fairly mild, oh as most of my colds have 542 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: been in the last I don't know decade. 543 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Oh, good for you. I hate cold. I haven't had 544 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: one in a long time. 545 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: I've got maybe the Remember that streak I had with 546 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: whooping coffin colds. 547 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: I was sick for like six months. I feel like 548 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: like non stop. It's horrible. I've meant second time. I 549 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: have no idea why, though I wish I knew why, 550 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: if like I was doing something washing my hands more, 551 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: staying away from cretans or I don't know what, but that. 552 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: One, that's a big one, you know. 553 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm scratchy of throats and runny of nose and 554 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: I want to lie down every minute. 555 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: But no, that's probably not that. But not you wish 556 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: you don't care, but not you wish you were dead, 557 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: like bad colds can be. Nah now and. 558 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: It's good because we're traveling overseas on Friday. 559 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: I can't believe. 560 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: I didn't pick up on the obvious. Why have I 561 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: not been sick and roughly three months? Anyway? My kids 562 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: are back in school. Oh yeah, oh, my kids have 563 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: been out of school all summer long. That's why I 564 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: haven't been sick, and now my kids are back in school, 565 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: so welcome back the common cold. 566 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Those clever little microbe messengers bringing home little microscopic notes 567 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: from their friends. 568 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: There's a nice sales lady around here calls the kids 569 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: going to school plague, taxis plague, taxis perfect. I know, God, 570 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: dang it, kids are back in school, so bring back 571 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: the gold. 572 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: All. Oh, well, that's just part of it. Occurs to me, 573 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: I should name names. 574 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: Back to the transgender youth thing, mutilating poor innocent children 575 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: who are momentarily confused with either chemicals or knives. Children's 576 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Hospital LA Shuddered Center for trans Youth Health and Development, 577 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: Thank god. Stanford Medicine San Francisco Bay Areas paused surgical procedures, 578 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: including new puberty blocker implants for those under. 579 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: The age of nineteen, Oh my god. 580 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: And Kaiser Permanenae, one of the biggest health systems in 581 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: the nation with dozens of facilities in California, announced it 582 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: would pause gender related surgeries for patients under the age 583 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: of nineteen. Can you imagine the sort of person who 584 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: would mutilate a confused teenager, probably autistic, probably suffering from 585 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: other emotional problems because they thought they're desperate, desperate road 586 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: to happiness might be some sort of sex change because 587 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: they're confused children. Can you imagine executing those confused wishes? 588 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: Ugh, or just or monsters or people who are just 589 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: a feminine gay boys or masculine gay. 590 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: Girls right who've been convinced by the activists. No, No, 591 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: you've got to have a surgeon cut on you to 592 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: become who you really are. 593 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: What is that? 594 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you see a gay little fellas and 595 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: butch girls. 596 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: You're exactly the way you ought to be. Have a 597 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: great life. 598 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Here at the Fascist Conservative Armstrong and Getdy show. 599 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: We accept you for you who you are. You're fine, 600 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: You're like God made you. Don't let those sickos hack 601 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: you up. Good lord. 602 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: Esh Okay, we're gonna get into the whole Ukraine thing 603 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: and what security guarantees would look like from the United 604 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: States and European troops and all that sort of stuff. 605 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: An hour two we got mail bag on the way 606 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: next to here. Hetty, I did not know this. I 607 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: thought this was over September. Congress comes back to DC, 608 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: front and center, right off the bat Ebstein crap. Oh, no, 609 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: Democrats are going to be able to force all kinds 610 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: of different Epstein conversations. Republicans have enough stuff in their 611 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: own party to want it to happen. It's going to 612 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 2: be back in our lives again. 613 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: Perfect time for the freedom loving quote of the day, 614 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: based on Trump saying we need to get rid of 615 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: paper or mail in ballots. I thought i'd go with 616 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: the series quotes about voting. Why not start off with 617 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: the granddaddy of them all. We're gonna start with the 618 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: showstopper Weston Churchill. The best argument against democracy is a 619 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: five minute conversation. 620 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: With the average voter. 621 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: Eyah, eh, mail bag, rub us a note, mail bag 622 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: and armstrung and getty dot com. Here's a nice note 623 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: from alien anonymous. My daughters yard at school last week 624 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: in Oakland, California. On the third day of school, they 625 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: posted this flyer on the bulletin board. Notice that the 626 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: reading is for only pre K through first graders. It 627 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: is a drag queen presenting to the little kids. Everyone 628 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: can make their own rainbow. Also because they announced they 629 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 3: will lot to have freaking believable I was disgusted by 630 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 3: this rights aleen. Also because they noticed they will not 631 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: be doing a Grandparent's Day this year, since some kids 632 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: have no grandparents and feel left out, we decided to 633 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: keep our daughter out of school the entire week as 634 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: a protest. Since they rely so much on attendance for funding, 635 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: I may be blackballed for the community that I want 636 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: to stand for what's right, and then mentions our conversation 637 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: yesterday and says, I'm. 638 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: Going to stand up and say what I believe. 639 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: Hopefully a preference cascade takes hold here after you have 640 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 3: preference falsification and people realize, wait a minute, I'm just 641 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: going to say what I believe, and then they find 642 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: out everybody agrees with me. That's what's own is a 643 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: preference cascade. 644 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 645 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: I can understand why people don't know, because I mean, 646 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: you're hanging around with the other parents at the park, 647 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: at the playground after school. You don't want to be 648 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: the pariah or enemies with these people. 649 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: But that is incredible. 650 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: So you eliminate Grandparents' Day because some kids don't have grandparents, 651 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: but you're willing to have every kid exposed to the 652 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: drag queen crap right. 653 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unbelievable. I know. We need to shut down 654 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: our entire education system. 655 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: And start a new speaking of which Eric from Florida writes, Florida's. 656 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Getting after it. 657 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: Here's what students can expect in Florida schools next year. 658 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: The coursework involves instructions on communist movements in places like Russia, China, Cuba, 659 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 3: even the US itself. According to the Legislative Analyst, instruction 660 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: must include age appropriate content about the following, the history 661 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: of communism in the US and domestic communist movements, atrocities 662 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 3: committed in foreign countries under the guys of communism, comparative 663 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: discussion of political ideologies such as communism, totalitarianism, et cetera, 664 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: the increasing threat of communism in the US and to 665 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: its allies, the economic industrial political events that have preceded 666 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: communist revolutions, and the communist policies at Cuba, and the 667 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 3: spread of communist ideologies throughout Latin America. Good for you, Flora, 668 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 3: Good for you. How much time do you add? 669 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Michael? Oh, this is so good? Do I have time for? 670 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: It's from Zach reading from the Book of Gavin. 671 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: And it came to pass in those days that tidings 672 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: went up, fourth went forth upon x which in times 673 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 3: past was called twitter, and lo the people did marvel, 674 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: for the saying was spread abroad. Behold thy savior hath 675 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: arisen among thee. And they lifted up their voice and cried, surely, surely, 676 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom of California's risen yea, even as the Christ 677 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: of old. And then the people rejoiced and spake to 678 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: one another, saying, behold, he shall deliver us from the 679 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: Orange hitler, even the man called Trump, which reigneth his 680 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: king in the White House of Marble. 681 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: I got a skip a little. 682 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: Bit nice, yes, spake and they and yet they regarded 683 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 3: not the cry of the poor, neither of the multitude 684 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: of the homeless, nor the plague of strange powders and needles. 685 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: Neither considered they the broken hideways, nor the grievous cost 686 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: of bread and dwelling. 687 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: You know, I should finish this leaders. I'm gonna start 688 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: working in spake more often. So we're gonna talk to 689 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 2: Mike Lines about what a US security guarantee for Ukraine 690 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: would look like, among other things. 691 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Next hour. 692 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: If you don't get a good podcast, Armstrong and Getty