1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: and I heart radio podcast. Welcome to and that's why 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: you really missed podcast. I'm Jenna. It sounds like Jennifer Coolidge. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I am Kevin, and welcome to today's episode. We we 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: got we got a big fish today, big big, big 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: big fish in the small pond. We got Jane Lynch 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: here people the suso astor herself, um, which you will 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: hear she believes it's not the villain. UM. I like 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: hearing her talk about how much she loves too and 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: the deeper understanding and how also I'm not I'm not 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: gonna spoil it. There's lots of things we found out 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: that we did not know about how she got on 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: the show and stayed on the show. That's right, So enjoy. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Buckle up, enjoy our conversation with Jane Lynch. Jane, Jane Lynch, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend. Well, I don't know about that. 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: I think Jane has been the busiest working person in 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: show business for as long as before we've even met. 18 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: I feel like any time we don't know that's true. 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: A weekend there next month would be an advertisement of 20 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: catch Jane Lynch and this thing. How when did she 21 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: have the time? I know, because everybody wants you know 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: what's funny about that? Kids? Well, God bless, I don't 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: know that that's true, but it's it's lovely to think 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: and yet and yet my day's yawned before me sometimes. Um, 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: and when I work, I love it, and I also 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: love not to work, especially these days. I'm more more 27 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: happy to be at home. But um, yeah, it's funny 28 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: because you know how it goes. You You do a 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: guest spot on a sitcom and you're there for three 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: days and then it comes out and you're in the 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: show and they're like, oh my god, she's so busy. Yeah, 32 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: but we were on greed. We were You were busy. 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: I was not busy. You guys know what it's like 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: to be really busy. I strolled in once a week 35 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: and said the same same line sometimes that I said 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: the week before, and you had the compou did. It 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: was like getting back in my pajamas. I will say, though, 38 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: the things that you had to say built up to 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: be worth a weeks of work. Well, thank you, you 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: know that's what I think. It was Ian who said 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: we sprinkle you illiberally, just a little bit of sus 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: Sylvester goes a long way. And sometimes when I talked, 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: as you know, I would go on and on and 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: on and on and on. Yeah, was it was it? 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Are you a fast memorizer like or was Sue kind 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: of hard for you? Did it take a second? I 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: did take a second. It was harder than you know, 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: in terms of memorization, than anything I had done. Um. 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just like out of nowhere, these like yeah, 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: there's still out of context and crazy. Yeah. And I 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: had to run on sentence once. God, I wish I 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: could remember what episode it was, but it went about 53 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: two pages and it started it was one sentence and 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: it went the whole it's crazy and Brennan crazy crazy, 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: And he was a stickler about word for word really 56 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: and I'm considered an improviser, and he would I would like, 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: I'd see what Barb Barbe was an inverted script person. 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: I'd see her over on the phone going because she 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: would tell on. She would say, you know, Jane, she 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't a horrible thing. That was her job, 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, Jans switching up the words. And she changed 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: the name of this to this, and then she got 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Ian said it's really important that it's blah blah blah. 64 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know, Bab's probably with saying like 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I'd probably call Ian and go she has so much 66 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: to remember. Do I have to bother her with this? 67 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: I'll bet and you know, not looking a gift in 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: in the mouth because that guy, what he gave me, 69 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, just just the two were a match 70 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: made in heaven, like what it was. Yeah, and it 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: was a happy accident too. It's you know, it just 72 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of happened. It was a wonderful thing though. When 73 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: so we talked to Ryan when we started this show, 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: and he was saying that when they were creating the 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: show that, um, they were talking about your character, like, oh, 76 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: we wanted Jane Lynch type. And then eventually there's like, oh, 77 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: why don't we just ask Jane Lynch ask herself? How 78 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: did that happen? Do you remember? Like did he call you? 79 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Did you knew him a little bit? Didn't you a 80 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: little bit? But you know I was on the outs 81 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: with him at that point. You know, it was about 82 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: year ten of being in the ounce where he would 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: see me in a room and walk out he was 84 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: mad at me. He was, you know, and he'll get 85 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: mad at people and he holds do it is a scorpio, 86 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: that's just how they do it. Um. So I didn't 87 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: think i'd ever hear from him again. Um. I was 88 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: in Canada doing uh was called camp something with George Lopez. 89 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: I forget what it was called, so shooting, and I 90 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: got an email from my agent and she said, and 91 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: she knew, you know about kind of the uh, the 92 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: cold shoulder that he had been given me for now 93 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: about ten years. And she said, Rised Murphy called and 94 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: he wants you to play this part in his UM pilot. 95 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: And it's a guest star, but it could become a 96 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: full on role. Now. I forget what came first. I 97 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: think I had been in a pilot that got picked 98 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: up for CBS and we did not we did not 99 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: get into the schedule where they were going to put 100 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: us at mid mid season, so I would have to 101 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: go to that. So for sure I was gonna do 102 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, so we asked would you do it? Because 103 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Sue Sylvester was not in the original pilot script. It 104 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: was Kevin um Fox guy Fox. I can't think about 105 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: his names. Um. He said you need a um, you 106 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: need a villain, and that's when Ryan said her name 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: will be Sue Sylvester and she will be played by 108 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: Jane Lynch. Is well, how I heard it, which is 109 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: kind of nice. I don't know that he said it 110 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Jane Lynch type. But anyway, so Ian wrote this thing 111 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: and it was just hilarious. I would do it anyway. 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean I was like, oh, Ryan asked me back, 113 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm so happy, So I said yes. I did the 114 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: pilot as a guest started the first three episodes as 115 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: a guest star, and then CBS dropped my pilot. So 116 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: that's how I got to stay on Blee. So, oh 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: my god. I remember thinking, I thought, weren't you also 118 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: on Party Down? Yeah, but that was um uh not 119 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: like a contract. You know, it was on stars. We weren't. 120 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: We weren't. Nobody was like in first position that type 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: of a thing. So it wasn't uh like they said 122 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: in those days. In the first place, I don't know 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: that it even had a place. It didn't even know 124 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: if it was going to have a second season. So 125 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: but I left Party Down to do the pilot, and 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: I think I missed the last episode of the first 127 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: season in party down to do that? What would have 128 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: happened if you had gotten that, like your show Hack 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: I gotten picked up. Yeah, it would have been Emmy less, 130 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: been emless, Golden globe forget it. And also such a 131 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: wonderful experience that we all had. God it was. It 132 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: was such a moment in time, wasn't it. It was 133 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: a articular moment in time. Yeah, before that, you know, 134 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean we did some things in the beginning that 135 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: we can't do now because of the kind of weakness 136 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: that it's good too, Like I don't think that you 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: could have been the wheelchair kid because you're not in 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: a wheelchair. And I think, and you know, I completely 139 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: understand that that. Yeah, we talked about how things don't 140 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: age quite well or times wouldn't. Yeah, times have changed, 141 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: and Asian camp I don't think we would have been 142 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: allowed to say I can't remember that Asian one, Asian two. 143 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: You couldn't even refer to us like that. That's what 144 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, Sylvester. Yes, you had 145 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: a lot of crazy ass lines, but had corner was 146 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: really bad. How did it feel having to do that? Though, 147 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Like at the time, I was like, oh, this is 148 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: what I'm given, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I loved it. 149 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I loved how extreme she was. She didn't like her 150 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: coffee hot. It was in the pilot, I said, I 151 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: liked my coffee scalding. She never did anything halfway. It 152 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: was extreme. Are I never heard the words scalding again 153 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: the same ever since that. It's right, It's right. And 154 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: the track suits, I mean the track suits, they just 155 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: became such an iconic thing. And they did. You know 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: who used to wear those track suits was like Russian 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: eyes walking up running canyon. You ever seen that? And 158 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: they were bling yeah yeah and matching like Adida's track 159 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: suits in their chest, hair sticking up. It was the 160 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Russians and run DMC. They were just yeah, yeah, exactly. 161 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: Uh what what I know? Because you got you, you 162 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: got to do some musical numbers, You got to work 163 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: with some of your icons, feel like, yeah, you had 164 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: been a huge fan of hers growing up? Did Ryan 165 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: know that? Yes? In fact, when we remember that first 166 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: dinner we had at that steakhouse. Remember before we even started, 167 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: we had a big dinner at a steakhouse and Dana um, 168 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember anybody's life. Walden stood up and said, 169 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: your lives are going to change. And you know, I've 170 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: been to those pilot dinners before where they say, you know, 171 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: you're on the verge of something big and then you're 172 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: canceled after three episodes. So I took it with a 173 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: grain of salt. But she was right. She was right, 174 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: especially for you guys really changed. But there was a 175 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: guy at that restaurant and I forget his name, but 176 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: the first one is John. He wrote UM, I Honestly 177 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Love You, which um was her big hit. She also 178 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: wrote these an Australian two. He wrote the song from Glee, 179 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: but not Glee Greece yeap Hopelessly Devoted. He wrote that, 180 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: and he wrote physical And so Ryan saw him in 181 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: the restaurant that night and said, that's that guy. So 182 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: we went over there and said, you know, we love 183 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: your music and he said you know who I am 184 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, you wrote blah blah blah blah blah, 185 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: and he said, oh, he was so impressed. And we 186 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: said we're doing a musical show. We'd love to have 187 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: a living Newton John and it could you connect us? 188 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's how it got connected, 189 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: but Ryan probably didn't hurt. Ryan sent her a letter 190 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: and uh, she said, I'd love to and Carol Carol 191 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Burnett too, So we remade physical with a living Newton 192 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: makes and shot for shot numbers. That was pretty Yeah. 193 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: Don were you a big singer before this? Like did 194 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: you sing a lot about the same as I sing? Now? 195 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not like the best singer in the world, 196 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: but I love it and I'll put on a harmony 197 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: if um, you know, like Kate Flannery and I over 198 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: the Country's Show. Oh, Tim, Yeah, and Tim too. Tim 199 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: is in the Christmas Show with us, and he arranged 200 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: our Tim Davis is the arranger of the all the 201 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: vocals on Glee, and he arranged all of our stuff 202 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: that we do in the Christmas show. And we have 203 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: an album called Swinging Little Christmas. It's so good. I 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: ran in the Kate last week and he's like, I 205 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: call for you guys to get back on the road. Yeah. 206 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: She's in a neck brace, half body neck brace. Yeah, 207 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: so we had to, I know, we had to cancel 208 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: the Christmas tour, but we did a show in Orange 209 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: County where she she we can't keep her off this stage. 210 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: We planned it without her. We got other people to 211 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: come sing and with the same band, and then she 212 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: shows up. She was cunning Internet brace and she comes 213 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: out stage and said, it took me three buses to 214 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: get here because she can't drive. So um, but she 215 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: can't be kept from the trotting the boards. That's right. 216 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Do you love touring? Do you love performing? I love 217 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: performing touring him al right about you guys toured You 218 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: guys toured hard. We toured hard. You got to pop 219 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: in and do some intro fun intro is huh in 220 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: New York? I did. Yeah, it came out to New York. 221 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: But I know you guys were working hard a f 222 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah that was tough. Yeah, you probably saw us looking 223 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: a little ragged little yeah hard. You know. You know, 224 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: my niece Megan is a good friend of um you guys, 225 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: and she was, um she carried your luggage when he 226 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: first job. Yeah, it was her in. She she locked 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: in though so quickly. She is like one of us, 228 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: and we were like, we're never letting you go. So 229 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: it was so it's so fun to see. So I 230 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: keep in touch with you guys is through her. Let's 231 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: go on with Kevin and Jenna, because your family is incredible. 232 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: So she does. Oh thank you know, Meg's does hold 233 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 1: all the secrets. And I'm an astrological person. As you know. 234 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: She has a Scorpio moon, which means she gets deep 235 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: and dark. She is loyal to death to the death, 236 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: and she will hold all of your secrets. But but 237 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: if she's mad at somebody, you know it. Yes, she's 238 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: the most loyal person in the world. That that makes total. 239 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: You have to do, you have to do um Emma's chart, 240 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: my daughter's chart. I would love to love that. Yeah, yeah, 241 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I know what time I was born. So I don't 242 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: think you can even right well, you know I can't. 243 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: But there are astrologers who can trace back your like 244 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: instances in your life and they can figure out if 245 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: this happened at this time, you probably have this rising 246 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: side been into like the astrology and yeah, kind of yeah, 247 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I've always been kind of new AG and I hope 248 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: I've graduated from new AG into something deeper and profound. Um, 249 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: but I did. I started out with astrology, you know, 250 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: I want to know me, I want to know yeah, 251 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: And now it's it's just fascinating how the world of 252 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: events are playing out and I'm looking at some of 253 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: these major movements of the bigger planets, and it's just amazing. 254 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: And there I said amazing twice because I can't think 255 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: of another word. I follow an astrologer called Pam Gregory, 256 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: and she's like, she needs one more follower, but she 257 00:14:54,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: she is profound and deep and learning so much. So 258 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: I love it. I just love it. I gotta go follow. 259 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: Just give us five minutes. We gotta follow her. Um, 260 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: you had, obviously prigily were very successful, and but coming 261 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: into the show and having it play out the way 262 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: it did, becoming this weird, seemingly overnight success. Did you 263 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: feel a difference in your professional and personal life pretty quickly? 264 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Like we all huge huge Um. I mean there's just 265 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: such power to going into people's living rooms. And this 266 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: was during appointment television, wasn't it. This wasn't before before 267 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the streaming, that's right. Yeah, even more, I think because 268 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: there were there were less shows on television. We were 269 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: about we were at the last of the network television, 270 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, domination. And it may come back from what 271 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I've been hearing keeping my ear against the wall, but yeah, 272 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: changed completely. I got it recognized everywhere I went. Um, 273 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: I loved it. I had no problem with it at all. Um, 274 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I took pictures with people all the time. But I 275 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: did learn like Matt Morrison, you know, is younger than 276 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: I am, so he would watch me do things and 277 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: go I'm gonna do that. There were times when it 278 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: just got to be too much and you're just really 279 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: trying to pick up your coffee at Starbucks and I 280 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: would say can I take a picture? And I'd say, oh, no, thanks, 281 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, I have actually witnessed that. I witnessed 282 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: that at the Apple store. I'm like, who, who's famous, 283 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: who's here? Who's here? And across the way into Jane, 284 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm like hey Jane. She's like hey, and I think 285 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: you thought I was a fan At first. Probably I 286 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I got that, Jenny. I've done that before. 287 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I see people and I go and I think they're 288 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: a fan. They're like, hey, it's me. It's your your 289 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: friends from fifty years Oh sorry, you want to Well 290 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: all came up to me a blue bottle and he 291 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: was behind me and he said, hey, can I have 292 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: a picture? And I went ready to be like no, 293 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: thank you, ready to say no thank you. I probably 294 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: would have, but anyway, we did take a picture anyway, 295 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: and he was behind me like this, and I was like, 296 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: I got to see you do that in Monaco for 297 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: that TV festival thing. That God, that was a trip, 298 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: you guys. And we were being mobbed and very late 299 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: to this thing, and I had never seen you do 300 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: it before. And these people came up to you and 301 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: so sweetly You're like, no, thank you, And I was like, 302 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: wait a second, that's an option. I stopped in my tracks. 303 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: I was like, that is absolutely master class. And it 304 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: stops them too, because they go and then maybe two 305 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: seconds later they go, what But you're gone by then. 306 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes yeah, sometimes you just gotta keep moving. 307 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: But wasn't that the weirdest trip? Um uh Glee was 308 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: in a first season? It was this huge and they 309 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: invited Kevin, Jenna and me and maybe they invited more, 310 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: but we said yes and we got to take his 311 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: He couldn't go, so we and they were like, would 312 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: you guys be each other's plus one if you want 313 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: to go? Absolutely? Yeah? And you know what I remember 314 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: most of all, Kevin is you bought like three jackets, 315 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: three suit jackets to go and one was a tailor 316 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: too tight. You had them Taylor was taken in at 317 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: the back. It was taking him like at the back 318 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: at the back scene or something like that. It was 319 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: terrible and you had it on, but you're a tiny guy. 320 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: You could not even the two wins would not even mean. 321 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: But remember count velvet. Yes, it was also very hot there. 322 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: That's right. It was red. It was it was red velvet. 323 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: It was so hot here. But it was fun. That 324 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: was a wild That was a trip in to this. 325 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: This is great. Yeah. The ceremony, it's it was like 326 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: four hours long, remember, and all the presenters were drunk. Yes, 327 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: and the French. Yeah, it felt like we were kind 328 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: of in jail. Yeah, I did. I was with Dante, 329 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: remember Dante de Loretto. Yes, I was with him and 330 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: we left early. I think, Yeah, that was smart. I 331 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: think that was that trip. Or Dante was the one 332 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: who encouraged as Janet to get and pictures by the paparazzi. 333 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: That was. Yes, we were so every yeah yeah, yeah, 334 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: oh I bet, I'll bet yeah. That great dates and 335 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: we were dating, so it wasn't that great. You know 336 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: what's crazy to me to think about that. You were 337 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: just supposed to be a guest start it reminds me 338 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: of like The West Wing, where Martin Sheen was only 339 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: supposed to be a guest start in the pilot, and 340 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: then they realized that's everyone's favorite character. It's a very 341 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: it's just right. Yeah. Oh and yes, I mean he 342 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: was the show. He was the focus of the show, 343 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: where I think in a lot of ways, for Glee, 344 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: it was like there's no Glee without Susa Vester like that, 345 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: there's no way. Oh yeah, well you needed your villain, 346 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, that's for sure. As we're rewatching 347 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: again for the fifth time, um, it's uh, it's I'm 348 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: watching it with new eyes and I'm really enjoying it, 349 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: but I'm watching it as a fan now, and like, 350 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: my favorite scenes truly are yours and Matt scenes in 351 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: principal Principal Figgins office, Figgin's office. Oh but Matt, Yeah, 352 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: he's such a smart actor. I don't think he knows 353 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: how smart he is. He played such a good person, 354 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: and he is a good person, he certainly has that 355 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: in him. But he played it was such a dichotomy 356 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: to who Sue was. It was like he walked through 357 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: the world forgiving. Yeah, and I'm talking about Schuster now 358 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: and Matts like this too. But he was forgiving. He 359 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: saw the best and everybody he trusted people, he hoped. 360 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: You know that. You know, he gave people a bill. 361 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: He gave me a billion chances as sus Sylvester, and 362 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: deep down inside, Sue Sylvester was like him. There was 363 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: a there was the Sue Sylvestor. I mean that track 364 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: suit was not an accident. I don't know that they 365 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: thought this deeply when they were creating the character, but 366 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: that was her uniform. She was like a warrior. But 367 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: you take that uniform and you go just below skin 368 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: level and there's this tender heart, this this heart that 369 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: breaks for her down syndrome sister who flux Becky out 370 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: of obscurity and makes her cheerio. I was watching the 371 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: auditions for the Cheerios, and I was so cruel, you know, 372 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: telling everybody how terrible they were. And Becky comes in 373 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: and she jumps rope and she can't do it. And 374 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: Matt's looking at me like, I don't do it, see anything, 375 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: don't do it soon, And I'm watching and I'm watching, 376 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: and then I go report tomorrow at noon. You're a cheerio. 377 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: Congratulations and she's like really and that she was just 378 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: like she was so kind to her mum and not 379 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: to anybody else. But when it came down to it, though, 380 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: she was you know, she was like Megan. She had 381 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: a scorpio moon. She was the most loyal. She would 382 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: she would kill for you, she would she would kill 383 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: for the vulnerable. She was like protector of the vulnerable. 384 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: M hmm. I always tell people that a little deep there. No, 385 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: it's good that I feel like Jane as a person 386 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: to do with a one No character like that could 387 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: be one character isn't. But you know that's so much Yeah, 388 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: exactly going to say about Jane. You were pon go 389 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: back to that when we when we foresee you with 390 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: your sister and glee Sue with her sister. I always 391 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: feel like that's you as a human in real life, 392 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: where if I see you out in the street, you 393 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: are the most loving, warm, loyal person and you're able 394 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: to then add those layers to someone like Sue because 395 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: you do feel that deeply. I think in real life 396 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: I do, and I feel, you know, I crumble around 397 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: the babies and the old people and the senior dogs. 398 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: We always have at least three or four in the house. Yeah, 399 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm um, I'm almost almost. Sometimes I'm afraid, I'm 400 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: afraid i wake up in the middle of the night 401 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: that I'm going to just fall apart with with the detection. Yeah, 402 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: feeling for the vulnerable. That's why you're so good though, 403 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: gets it? Yeah? Where Megan gets it now? And then 404 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: you slap something mean on top of there, and I 405 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: think that's when, Oh my god, I'm gonna sound so 406 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: braggy now. But when I found my own secret sauce 407 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: in in um and acting, where things got really kind 408 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: of deep for me is when I was able to 409 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: access that the stuff that makes me collapse and then 410 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: slapped the meanest person in the world on top of it. 411 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: And then then you got a person had an interest person. 412 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: When was that? What? At what point did you find 413 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the secret sauce um? Probably glee. Let me think what 414 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: I did before that that. Oh you know, I used 415 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: to do this character that led to Sue Sylvester. I 416 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: used to do this character and like cabarets and stuff, 417 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: I would do one person show or I'd just show 418 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: up do a monologue at um Largo or something, and 419 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: I wore a neck brace and I dressed like Janet 420 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: Reno where this terrible eight suit. Janet Reno was the 421 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Attorney general. And this shows how long ago I did it, 422 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: which was this woman. She was so angry and she's 423 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: so upset, and she's one of those people who's all 424 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: always hurt. She's always got something. Somebody did something to 425 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: her and injured her, and she's so angry. And I 426 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: would enter to Wagner's um right of the vulkyries, do 427 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: you know that? And I'd get up to the mic 428 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: and really close and I can only talk this loud, 429 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: and I tell the story of what someone did to me. 430 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: And then at the end she would just like burst 431 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: into some kind of like tears or dissolve onto the 432 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: floor and do something embarrassing. I'll usually she wet her pants. 433 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean that's basically what I had her do, and 434 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: I had a sound effect. But that kind of led 435 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: to Sue Sylvester because I actually wrote that monologue for therapy. 436 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: My I was complaining about something in my therapist write 437 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: that is a monologue, and I was like, then I 438 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: want when I wrote it as a monologue, and young 439 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: Lady came out, Yeah, this is bliss actor. It was 440 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: not a conscious thing, unhealthy psychologically. No, No, it wasn't 441 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: a conscious thing. I did it as a psychological exercise 442 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: because I was suffering. Yeah, I was suffering with the 443 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: polarities of my own self, and I brought them together 444 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: in a hilarious character that I could laugh at myself, 445 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: laugh at that polarity. And then I, you know, basically 446 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: do that with every character I play. I pulled that out. 447 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Give the people what they want, you know, the people 448 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: exactly do you think that when you got to um, 449 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: because I was thinking about this earlier, the way you 450 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: can like drop your voice down to you. I guess 451 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: this answers that question actually that you just said. Because 452 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: when you're like, yes, like all of that the ring, 453 00:26:53,359 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I started Destination Horror Horror Club. Yeah that now, I've 454 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: been kind of doing stuff like that, you know, and 455 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: and oh I did so many like little sketch comedy shows, 456 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: and um, I think that part of my voice that 457 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: came in, like there's I did it. If you look 458 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: at some of the old stuff I did, and I 459 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: don't even know how you pull that up. But I 460 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: would play like the neighboring lady and I'd be down 461 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: here and I do it in animation all the time. 462 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: It's it's one of my tricks. So because Ian was 463 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: such a stickler um for the words, how precise of Sue, 464 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you got to play a lot also, like 465 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: how much did you feel like you got to actually 466 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: improv that made it into what we saw on the show? Well, 467 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: I rarely wanted. The reason I would change some of 468 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: the words is because it was easier for me to 469 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: remember that I can't I'm not able to do this, 470 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: but I can't do this, and I no, you gotta 471 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: do what's written because he's precise, and I'm very precise too, 472 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: so I you know, I bout to the altar of 473 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: Ian's decision. But there were little things that I mean, 474 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: the thing that I loved about Sue, and that always 475 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: was encouraged if it wasn't extreme enough in the script, 476 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: if I took it like one more place once notch higher, 477 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: and I would do that a lot. But I remember 478 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: there was one where I got so mad at Biggins 479 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: that I started destroying the office and they played some 480 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, the opera music, and I was like, things, Oh, 481 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: that was the most fun. And then I go into 482 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: the gym and I pick up the not the children, like, 483 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: not the kids to the children. Oh, push people down 484 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the stairs. You hit people. I knocked an old lady 485 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: down the stairs. Remember that. It's very satisfying, Yes, yes, 486 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: very much. That was fun cutting guy's hair. Remember I 487 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: cut that guy. I really cut his hair too. Yeah, 488 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: I said, you haired hippie looking like a girl. Oh 489 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: my god, we couldn't do that today now. And I 490 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: went like this, and someone gave me a pair of 491 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: scissors and I literally took it in my hands, his hair. No, no, 492 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean to be fair, it was a wig? Did 493 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: you think it was? He was knowing that that was 494 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: going to happen, And then I saw him in the 495 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: trailer and they were giving him a cute little haircut, 496 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: trying to work around my shreds. I thought you thought 497 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: it was a wig? You're like that, wouldn't that be terrible? 498 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure the kid would have stopped me, or maybe 499 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have. He signed up that exactly. He wanted 500 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: to work again, so he let me do it. Terrible, 501 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: did you? One of my favorite things that Sue did 502 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: was Sue's journal. It was absolutely dear journal, delicious. Yes, 503 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: oh my here I am almost thirty. Do you have 504 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: people coming up to quote you to your face all 505 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: the time with these lines? I used to not so 506 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: much anymore, but I used to. For sure. There's one 507 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: that we just watched that you at the end of it, 508 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: you say it will love you like a sister. You do, 509 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I like a sister. Was that you were? I think 510 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: that might be me? I don't know. He might have 511 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: said that too. I mean he is so precise. I 512 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: mean he just fed right into my better instincts. A 513 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: good pairing the two, yes, exactly, you know, God with 514 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: a funny guy. What a great guy, what a weird guy. 515 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: You know, We're from the same town we grew up. 516 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm twenty years older than he used but yeah, Chicago, 517 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: same comedic sensibilities. Yeah, exactly. Kind of dark, but Frank, 518 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: he's the nice the sky in the world. And then 519 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: he writes about he used to say, you know, sometimes 520 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: my mom would open up the dishwasher and the knives 521 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: would be sticking up, and I think, what would happen 522 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: if I threw her on top of that? Knowing his 523 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: mother too, Charman, she's such a sweetheart. Like here's Mildred 524 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: mil She looks like a Mildred sweet. I forced her 525 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: to kiss me, give me your face, Mildred, Mildred. We're 526 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna ask Mildred and Jane, um, what what is the 527 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: feeling that Glee leaves you with? Like, yeah, looking back 528 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: on it, on it all, Yeah, what does it leave 529 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: me with? It was well, moment in time it was. 530 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: It was one beautiful, perfect moment um where the um 531 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: everything kind of it was kind of lightning and a bottle. Yeah. 532 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: And I remember, uh, we knew we were breathing rarefied air. 533 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: Ye remember Ryan saying that to us at some point 534 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: he said, you know, the most important thing for you 535 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: guys to realize right now is that you're we are 536 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: all breathing rarefied air. This doesn't happen because of the 537 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: impact that the show had, the good it had, and 538 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: um boy, we could use something like it now where 539 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: um everybody. It was kind of a microcosm of the world, 540 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: even for adults. It's like the McKinley high being metaphor 541 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: for the world where it's cruel and he gets slushies 542 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: in the face and there's a group's and factions again 543 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: it's each other. It's very tribal. Then you get into 544 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: that choir room and everybody's got your back. And there's 545 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: nothing more beautiful than raising your voice in song together 546 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: and making a joyful noise. It's where you do it together. 547 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: It's where the football player, uh and the kid, the 548 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: little nerd in the wheelchair can be pals, where the 549 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: gay kid can be passed with the football player and 550 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: the greaser. You know, Mark Sally's character was could be 551 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: so dark and yet and that you know when he 552 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: was winning the same thing with the guy, when he 553 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: was with us, there was something about him that was lighter, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 554 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: that's beautifully said, good one in true Jane form of Silvester. 555 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Well maybe on the exterior exactly. And you know what's 556 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: interesting too is that you guys started out you didn't 557 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: know each other before this, right, and you were basically 558 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: paired together. It's kind of a romantic couple and then 559 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: just best friends and and you became that in real life. 560 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: So there were all of these beautiful kind of happy accidents, 561 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: um of like casting, we didn't know each other. And 562 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: look what happened to Chris Colefort too. He wasn't even 563 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: out right, he was like eighteen years old and he 564 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: wasn't even out and he was a child, and now 565 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: he's the best selling author with children's foction. Yeah exactly. 566 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of a so so many people, 567 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, young people just look up to him. Yeah. See, 568 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: we're lucky to when you get casting things, you don't 569 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: know who's going to be on the other side. And 570 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: we were all we were all very, very lucky because 571 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: we were all obsessed with each other from the get go. 572 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: So that was a real thing. Yeah. Well, we're gonna 573 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: have you back for and ask me anything at some point. 574 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: We we love you so much. Thank you for spending 575 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: your time and giving us your wonderful nuggets of joy 576 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: and love to your house right now. The Royal love it. Yes, 577 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: that would be great, great guys. Um Jane is everybody's 578 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: best friend. I wanted to read my drop, my calendar 579 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: and uh my chart, my chart, my calendar, my chart. 580 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Jane's good people. You know, if you can't tell from 581 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: that interview, she is just she's liked it all the time. 582 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: She's so sweet, she cares, deeply cares about the role 583 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: she's playing. Um, and that's what makes her so talented 584 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: and good. And people keep wanting to work with her 585 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: kind feelings, big feelings. Well, we're grateful for Jane for 586 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: coming on the show. We hope you guys enjoyed it. 587 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Thanks for joining us, and that's what 588 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: you really missed. See you next week, by bye. 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