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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on a

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bottle Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. All right, let's do alive on a first

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Speaker 1: Friday edition of the program. Merely bow in the great Z.

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Speaker 1: How you living, buddy? It's Gray, it's a It is

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Speaker 1: a first Friday. That's exciting. So I'm pumped for that

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Speaker 1: Randarella walking by alleged champions Champion. I'm pumped. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Uh, I'm gonna go watch a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers later. Are you gonna go to spot? I

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Speaker 1: was not going to the game, going to spotos with

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Speaker 1: somebody's on the fellas. So that'll be nice, nice little Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Ben Carroll in town tonight. Apparently he's having a historic start.

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Speaker 1: Do you what do you make of the perbole run

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Speaker 1: a muck of early season NBA examples? Please? Feels like

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Speaker 1: NBA media wants to crown every single kid who's off

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Speaker 1: to a good two games stretch as a unicorn, Like

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Speaker 1: everybody can't be a unicorn otherwise there are no unicorn

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Speaker 1: that zebras like. That's the but this will be a

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Speaker 1: fun one tonight and to be able to watch that's

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Speaker 1: that's a nice little it's a nice little day for you.

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Speaker 1: You enriched my life yesterday. Thank you. Well, other than

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Speaker 1: in general, um with the knowledge that the the I

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Speaker 1: pad charger is, it's unbelievable in comparison to the standard

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Speaker 1: Apple phone charge. It's the new the one that runs

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Speaker 1: off the USBC. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what it

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Speaker 1: is about. I was unaware. He stands for cooking. It's

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Speaker 1: cooking with gas. Brother, I had, we have several of them,

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Speaker 1: and I never and I've used them before on phone,

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Speaker 1: but I'd never paid attention to the difference before until

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Speaker 1: yesterday when you said, and I said, well, it's annoying

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Speaker 1: that the that I don't have the USB anymore, it's

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Speaker 1: harder to find plug ins. You go, well, true, but

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Speaker 1: these suckers charge in a much faster the supercharger. Now

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Speaker 1: they are the supercharger, the supercharger of chargers. And it

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Speaker 1: was a full charge in fifteen minutes. Yeah crazy, Yes,

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Speaker 1: good job, well, good job out of them to come

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Speaker 1: up with this technology. It's funny I was. I was

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Speaker 1: then I remember one day I was sitting here and

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Speaker 1: big it's a big iPad. But I would sit here

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Speaker 1: now since we you walked in, is when I put

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Speaker 1: I'm at forty four, just since you walked in. And

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Speaker 1: that's on an iPad with it on with a full

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Speaker 1: full throat on the screen, brightness or doing what it's

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Speaker 1: a right there man of powerliminary cruising around. One other

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Speaker 1: thing I wanted to run by you. I had forgotten.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about this with your kids, and I've talked

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Speaker 1: about it with mine. The what you get with your

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Speaker 1: children is at times and ability to relive your youth.

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Speaker 1: And so whether it's a Star Wars epics, baby Indiana Jones,

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Speaker 1: or any of these things that you're doing Is that

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Speaker 1: really what you were going to say? That's exactly where

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Speaker 1: it's going. So last night's outrageous, outrageous. I get done

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Speaker 1: with third grade hoops. Uh, NBC hadn't seen him, and

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Speaker 1: and I see the Goonies had just started. What a film?

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Speaker 1: but at this point hastily. But it was justified in

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Speaker 1: how great and how dialed in he was into goonies

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Speaker 1: because this is awesome. It's awesome, and it's such a

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Speaker 1: good for like young young people, like your crew, and

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Speaker 1: you're going on this adventure and at all I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've got great cast, fantastic cast. Brolin in the mix

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Speaker 1: Mattuzak or something. Who's the who plays the crazy guy?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not chunk, but the guy who loves Chunk. Chunks.

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Speaker 1: is it really? It's a football play? Okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: It was fantastic. And then I started so then as

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Speaker 1: then Sean asked, Sean Aston it is his best data?

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Speaker 1: How great his data? The pictures of power? Well, and

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Speaker 1: he was Temple of Doom, yes, and which is which

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Speaker 1: very different than But you were also like this notion

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Speaker 1: By the way, underrated performance in that film is the

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Speaker 1: Too scary? The vampires to keep? For Sutherland too much?

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Speaker 1: turn the page to the Bengals this week. The players

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Speaker 1: is next Tuesday. Jeremy Fowler was some interesting writing today

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Speaker 1: about you know, some of the guys who could be

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Speaker 1: He felt so responsible and like he this he what

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Speaker 1: four and three on the season. They're tied for first

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Speaker 1: in the North Z. There are a very different team

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Speaker 1: the last three weeks than they were the previous a

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Speaker 1: few weeks. This team is really talented. My friend, well

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Speaker 1: like they were one and two after three games, we

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Speaker 1: were two and one. They have now won three of

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Speaker 1: their last four four their last five overall, they're actually

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Speaker 1: and two. When we were one and one, we're now

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Speaker 1: two and five, they're now four and three. Uh. They

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Speaker 1: have really kind of just decided, Look who we are offensively,

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Speaker 1: who we are is a shotgun passing team. We've got

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, We've got Jamaar Chase, We've got Tee Higgins,

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Speaker 1: We've got Tyler Boyd. We have got Joe Mixon, who's

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Speaker 1: a fine running back. But what we are is a

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Speaker 1: drop back passing team. Out shotgun. In fact, of their

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Speaker 1: passes involved no play action. Now and at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season, they were trying to play Look at

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Speaker 1: these Look at the Look at that, Look at the

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Speaker 1: heat right there, look at it. Just stop it. It's

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Speaker 1: just Wednesday, Wednesday. It's too much. It's just Wednesday, too much, Friday,

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Speaker 1: first Friday, not the real Friday. Unbelievable drip, ridiculous. Uh

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Speaker 1: and so three center. Their passing plays are just straight passes.

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Speaker 1: That is the second highest rate in the league. The

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Speaker 1: only team with a higher rate than that is Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay and Tom Brady. You'll look at what he they

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Speaker 1: have done. As I mentioned, I talked about how good

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Speaker 1: they've been since Week three, as a team since Week three,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven points a game, two seven passing yards a

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Speaker 1: game on third downs, quarterback rating of one seventeen point five.

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Speaker 1: Those ranked six, second, second, and first, respectively. After giving

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Speaker 1: thirteen sacks in the first two weeks, they have allowed

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Speaker 1: just eleven in the last four and they but they

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Speaker 1: have given up two plus and six of seven games.

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Speaker 1: Here's a crazy thing. Bengals all time with twenty five

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Speaker 1: and more points sixty two, six and two. The Browns

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Speaker 1: given up, as we know, twenty six point six a game.

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Speaker 1: So offensively, it's about borrow. It's about throwing the football

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Speaker 1: to Higgins, to Chase and to Tyler Boy now Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 1: For his career against the Browns, he has three one

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Speaker 1: yard games. He averages a hundred twenty five total yards

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Speaker 1: and point seven five touchdowns a game against the Browns

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Speaker 1: in eight career games. His last game over a hundred

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Speaker 1: was that one at the end of two thousand nineteen

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Speaker 1: where he had won sixty two and two and look

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Speaker 1: like the best player on the field. Um, they're a

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Speaker 1: big play offense. They've already got five receiving touchdowns of

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Speaker 1: forty yards in the NFL. UH five receiving touchdowns of

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Speaker 1: more than forty yards, which is most in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there is another team with more than three,

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Speaker 1: and they have five and they're all of their receivers too.

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Speaker 1: For Chase, two for Boyd, one for Higgins. The Browns

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Speaker 1: defense has given up twenty four completions of more than

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Speaker 1: twenty yards, which is the seventh most of the league.

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Speaker 1: They allow seven point four big plays a game, third most.

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Speaker 1: So big play offense against the defense that has struggled

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Speaker 1: to stop big plays. Not a great recipe. One statu

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Speaker 1: you can keep your eye on. Joe Burrows won seven

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Speaker 1: straight games with a one quarterback rating in his last

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Speaker 1: ten games, he's seven and oh his rings over a

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Speaker 1: hundred and three when his rating is below a hundred.

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Speaker 1: Last week we talked about three or forty four yards

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Speaker 1: in the first half, one yards, three touchdowns. He ran

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Speaker 1: for a touchdowns well, a hundred thirty eight rating. He

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Speaker 1: is very very good. Uh, like anybody pressures where you

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Speaker 1: get him. But most cases, when I do these stats

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Speaker 1: the pressure, they're like, oh yeah, now we're all quarterback

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Speaker 1: ringing in the sixties. He's still at eighty nine against pressure.

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Speaker 1: You can't blitz him either on the season and twenty

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Speaker 1: one rating when blitzed, which is tops in the league.

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Speaker 1: And they're good. And then defensively, they've got two guys

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Speaker 1: who can get after the quarterback a little bit. Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: He's got thirty one sacks since started. It's third in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, behind only t J. Watton Miles Garrett, and

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Speaker 1: we wondered if that was an overpay when they fourteen

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Speaker 1: sacks a year ago and then in their playoff run

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Speaker 1: three and a half sacks in the force fumble in

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Speaker 1: the playoff run. They've got Sam Hubbard on the other

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Speaker 1: side of has twenty six and a half sex since

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Speaker 1: he's been drafted. Um they have been in elite second

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Speaker 1: half defense this year. They've allowed twelve points in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter total, they have allowed thirty points in the

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Speaker 1: second half and overtime total. Real quickly, what do twelve

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Speaker 1: and thirty have in common? They're both divisible by what

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Speaker 1: number three. That's because they have not allowed a touchdown

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Speaker 1: in the second half for overtime this year. They are

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Speaker 1: the only team in the NFL of which that is

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Speaker 1: thirty six opponent drives in the second half and overtime

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Speaker 1: sixteen points. Sixteen points, I'm sorry, sixteen points. Five turnovers

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Speaker 1: interceptions or fumbles, four turnovers on downs, eleven field goal attempts,

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Speaker 1: ten made, zero touchdowns. Here's a couple of things to

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Speaker 1: look at when you think about and this is a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl team from a year ago, and they're kind

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Speaker 1: of trending back a little bit in that way the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks. And even if you want to look

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Speaker 1: at what they've done all year, there's something I'm gona

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Speaker 1: get to in a second. They are eleventh overall in

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Speaker 1: offense in the league and there are eleventh overall in defense.

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Speaker 1: That's so typically if you were in the top ten,

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Speaker 1: that's a team that goes to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So they're right on the cusp of that right now

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Speaker 1: at eleventh and offense and eleventh in total defense. Here's

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Speaker 1: another thing, um, they are pretty damn good at special teams.

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Speaker 1: Remember how good Evan McPherson was a yeargo. It carried

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Speaker 1: all over this year he's eleven and thirteen of kicks.

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Speaker 1: He's got kicks and fifty. I was unaware of this,

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Speaker 1: and I've watched a lot of their games U because

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Speaker 1: have to pay very close attention what they're doing as well,

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Speaker 1: and they I didn't. I had forgotten that all three

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Speaker 1: of their losses came on the last play with field

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Speaker 1: goals at the end. They lost on a fifty three

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Speaker 1: yard field goal um from from Pittsburgh in game one,

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Speaker 1: Dallas beat him on a fifty yard field goal in

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Speaker 1: game two, and of course Justin Tucker a forty three

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Speaker 1: yard which for him as a chip shot um. But

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Speaker 1: all three of them were the last play of the

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Speaker 1: game where they lost. So when we sit here and

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Speaker 1: say we should be this, we should be this, they

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Speaker 1: could say we should be undefeated. So and they've only

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Speaker 1: really been going the last three weeks in terms of

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Speaker 1: that offense going and you hit it. That's the they've

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Speaker 1: said for a while. It was we've got to establish

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Speaker 1: the run, and now they're like, to hell with it,

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Speaker 1: hell of it, spin it all you want. And that

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Speaker 1: worked out pretty good last week. In the last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: really taking on the Saints and the Falcons. Uh in

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Speaker 1: those two in those two beat downs, it's worked incredibly well.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember how many people, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much it crossed over your you paid attention. Remember the

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Speaker 1: Penna sul You gotta get protection from do I remember? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Of course idiots. How do you feel about it now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase went back to back over one thirty two. Tuddies.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty good, he is. They're really good. They're fun

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Speaker 1: and they're a fun team to watch. They and you

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Speaker 1: mentioned eleventh in offense, eleven defense. How about this, they're

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Speaker 1: eighth and scoring offense, seventh and scoring ze. Most importantly, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it out there. I don't know, it's just he's been

633
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Speaker 1: a ton of stuff. Sack. Yeah, yeah, he's charming. Charming,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I would uh, I mean he doesn't have that,

635
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Speaker 1: he's not. I like him in Hot Tub time Machine.

636
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, well, I'm not sure I've

637
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Speaker 1: seen Hot Tub time Machine, so it's worth watching. Absolutely.

638
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Speaker 1: Rob Cordroy is great now, he's great and everything he

639
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Speaker 1: pops into anything, he's good. I sometimes get Rob Cordrey

640
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Speaker 1: and the guy who plays Champ kind confused, and they

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Speaker 1: were both David Keckner. I believe they were both on

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Speaker 1: sn L at the same timilar and it was a

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Speaker 1: similar approach to Yes, very much. He is more of

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Speaker 1: a jerk, as I'd say Kener is more of like

645
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Speaker 1: a pretty big Yeah. Yeah, he's great when you would

646
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Speaker 1: pop into the office. Oh yeah, high fidelity, underrated. That's good,

647
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: that's good. I'm just saying he and Ryan Reynolds are

648
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Speaker 1: on the same level for me. I'll have a poll though,

649
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Speaker 1: to go Cusack, Like, there's so many if you're you're

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Speaker 1: pulling an actor's catalog, I and I had to guess

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Speaker 1: the Gibby that you'd pull from. I wouldn't have gone Cusack.

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Speaker 1: I would not have Those were like even if you

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Speaker 1: happen to fall asleep, you wake up and it's okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just keep keep on keeping Yeah, alright, alright, little mail

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Speaker 1: the hashtag, asked c b D this one from Janko

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Speaker 1: uh college football question more for Bishop, I think than anything.

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Speaker 1: Give top four teams right now in college football there

660
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: are that are still undefeated. Can I try to? Can

661
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Speaker 1: I try? I want to try? You I do mine

662
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: first because I'm gonna try. Because this is based off

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Speaker 1: of nothing Ohio State. Alabama lost to Tennessee, So I

664
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Speaker 1: know that's Tennessee. Undefeated they are they are, all right,

665
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: put him to put him in tennessee'son. Uh, how's Georgia.

666
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: I feel like they're always undefeated. Just put them in

667
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: put him in, Alight, I got three? Can you give

668
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Speaker 1: me like a conference or a non conference to go?

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Speaker 1: A dear friend of yours is an avid admirer the

670
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Speaker 1: blue double? All right there it is Ohio State, Tennessee, Georgia, Michigan. Yeah,

671
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Speaker 1: it is a unique final four or top four. Right,

672
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Speaker 1: here's the deal. I mean, that's that's probably what you

673
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Speaker 1: would say right now, Michigan or I'm sorry Alabama has

674
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Speaker 1: a loss in their flawed UM, Ohio States the most

675
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Speaker 1: complete and best team in the country period. Uh, Tennessee

676
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: is probably a worthy number two. And that they've played

677
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: four ranked five ranked teams or four ranked teams, They'

678
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Speaker 1: undefeated against those teams. UM, and they beat Bama, they're

679
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Speaker 1: inappropriate number two. UM. Georgia has kind of been sleepwalking

680
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: for a while. They've been they've won, they've handled their business,

681
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: but we haven't seen play anybody good in awhile they

682
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: have Florida this week and they have Tennessee next week,

683
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: so we'll figure out what they are. And then Michigan

684
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: is better than I thought they would be. They're more physical,

685
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: they're better at quarterback with McCarthy than they were last

686
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: year with McNamara. They can still run it with both backs. UM,

687
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: they can't get after the passer as well as they

688
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: did last year with Hutchinson and Najabo, but they're very

689
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Speaker 1: sturdy UM and have been very impressive. So I think

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Speaker 1: those are the four. Now here's what's crazy. You could

691
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Speaker 1: be in a scenario. Obviously, Ohio State plays Michigan, Tennessee

692
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Speaker 1: plays Georgia, and Bama most likely will represent so by

693
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Speaker 1: the end of this thing, I think it's very likely

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Speaker 1: that it's Ohio State. If Georgia beats Tennessee and loses

695
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Speaker 1: to Alabama, I don't know what the hell you do,

696
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Speaker 1: because Tennessee will have beat in Alabama. Georgia, well, Bama

697
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Speaker 1: will be in because they'll be an SEC champion. So

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Speaker 1: Bama's in for sure. Ohio States in for sure that

699
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Speaker 1: they went out Clemson. Clemson is undefeated, UM undefeated. That'll

700
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Speaker 1: be tricky, like inn a Big twelve team, even at undefeated,

701
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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve's eliminated again. That'll be the tricky one

702
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Speaker 1: there is is how do they handle all of that?

703
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: But usually these things sort themselves out. But I think

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Speaker 1: Bama is very likely to get in because I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win out. So you think it could end

706
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Speaker 1: up couldn't end up being Ohio State and three SEC

707
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: teams won't be three. I think what would happen then

708
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Speaker 1: would be if Michigan loses close in the shoe, then

709
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: they would use surp and you would then it would

710
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Speaker 1: be like, this is the future of college football, a

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Speaker 1: two conference world where there's two Big Ten teams in

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Speaker 1: two SEC teams. That's if Clemson loses Clemson undefeated, Clemson's

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Speaker 1: in Clemson and then on the rise that we're assuming

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Speaker 1: in the next three years as USC, right, yeah, they're

715
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Speaker 1: on the come now. I mean they have a they

716
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Speaker 1: have a loss at Utah, that's it. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: there's six and one. They've got Caleb Williams is really

718
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Speaker 1: good at quarterback. They're not going anywhere, but they're gonna

719
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Speaker 1: be in the Big Ten in two years. Ye crazy, right?

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Speaker 1: They a big Big Ten matchup between USC and Iowa

721
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Speaker 1: get you excited, speaks of just Big Ten history and going,

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Speaker 1: oh hey, little Tommy, can't you wait till five when

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten matchup of the week is U C.

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Speaker 1: L A At Rutgers. They need to get rid of

725
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Speaker 1: the names. Yeah, of course, like maybe you have the

726
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Speaker 1: SEC and then you have the rest of the country conference.

727
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Speaker 1: The Big Ten is gonna get to twenty, that's where

728
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Speaker 1: they're going. They want Notre Dame and then they need

729
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: three more to get to twenty. Why isn't Notre Dame done?

730
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Speaker 1: Because no one has played the hardest the hardest ball

731
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Speaker 1: you can play with them, which is we won't schedule you,

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Speaker 1: and our teams won't schedule you ence and the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten has an ability to do that because they now

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Speaker 1: have USC N there's talked to they could want Stanford

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Speaker 1: is one of those teams. Yes, of course. If Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame can't play USC Stanford, Michigan, Purdue, Michigan State, they

737
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Speaker 1: can't play any of them. And Stanford raises the prestige

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Speaker 1: of your conference. And it's I know what football drives everything.

739
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Speaker 1: But they're good, and everything well in the Big Ten

740
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Speaker 1: is pious, and so they will take the academic standing course,

741
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Speaker 1: that's what we are. But Stanford is god awful in football,

742
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Speaker 1: Like they have like eight people at their games, and

743
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Speaker 1: so what the television partners want is that I think

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Speaker 1: they could use Stanford as a way to both appease

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Speaker 1: USC and also force Notre Dame. I mean, Stanford has

746
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Speaker 1: had periods of being very good and having very good talent,

747
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Speaker 1: and a lot of guys go to the NFL. Don't

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Speaker 1: you think if they got into the Big Ten or

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Speaker 1: the Big twenty that would help them recruit better. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll give him a hundred million dollars a year in

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00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: television revenue and that would help invited they spend it

752
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Speaker 1: on football, and they'd almost have to, like, you can't

753
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Speaker 1: have them paying swimmers. They're gonna win everything else anyway,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna all of them. Yeah, they'll crush all everything.

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Speaker 1: I think that what the Big Ten would do is

756
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: they would want you get Notre Dame. You're at seventeen,

757
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Speaker 1: and then the other three ideally would be Stanford, Oregon, Washington.

758
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: But the one problem there where's the respect for Arizona

759
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: basketball power. It's just it's basketball doesn't do anything. Swarm

760
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that long. It doesn't mean anything. Oops, nobody cares.

761
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: So that's what I was saying earlier. Though, college basketball

762
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: was a much bigger deal in the eighties and nineties

763
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Speaker 1: in terms of your how you felt about a university.

764
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Speaker 1: People would go to school because they were great basketball schools.

765
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: College basketball is nothing in terms of importance relatives. I

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Speaker 1: would say, and this, you can tell me that I

767
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Speaker 1: was wrong, but I don't believe I am. I think

768
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Speaker 1: in the heyday of our youth. So we'll call it

769
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Speaker 1: eighties nineties college basketball. While it was not as important

770
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Speaker 1: as college football, the gap was significantly smaller than it

771
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: is today significant. A big reason for that is guys stayed.

772
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Speaker 1: So you had superstars. You had Shaquiel O'Neal played three

773
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Speaker 1: years at LS, you Grant Hill played four duke like.

774
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: There's constant examples of that of guys the real teams. Yeah,

775
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: you had real teams, and you had real stars, and

776
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: they played more. I don't have a problem with your

777
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Speaker 1: statement at all. Uh. The only counter I had to

778
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Speaker 1: that was that March Madness is still a huge deal,

779
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: but the college basketball season is not. I remember when

780
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Speaker 1: it would be the one quick just to button up

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Speaker 1: the pack twelve thing, The one kind of just get

782
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: in the ointment. Could be could be Cal because the

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: California University system is trying to make sure that U

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Speaker 1: c l A can't do this without others, and so

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Speaker 1: they may have to take pad just because they suck

786
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Speaker 1: it everything that they're not good. Why but they were?

787
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Speaker 1: I mean it's still like a right. I think that

788
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Speaker 1: they will. I think there's a win if you take

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Speaker 1: you basically owned California, then U c l A, usc

790
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Speaker 1: Cal and Stanford. But Oregon and Washington are both better

791
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Speaker 1: football operations. And I think you're gonna want to peace

792
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Speaker 1: Phil Knight. So that's the one thing because he's got

793
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Speaker 1: his hands all over this. Just bring them all, bring

794
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Speaker 1: AARs on Arizona State. I think they're a better fit

795
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Speaker 1: probably in the Big twelve. Sorry, we'll see Arizona Kansas

796
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Speaker 1: every year. Arizona Kansas every year in hoops. I wouldn't

797
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: be fun. Who's left in the Big twelve. Well, the

798
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Speaker 1: Big twelve added Houston UCF, so it's a good Cincinnati

799
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Speaker 1: and there's one more the Utahs in the in the

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Speaker 1: Pac ten. Where's Oklahoma State? Big twelve? Are they going

801
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: to the SEC? No, they're not invited, really, aren't they good? Yeah,

802
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: but it's the twenty every year. They don't need them.

803
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: They have Oklahoma, they don't need them. The SEC Big

804
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Speaker 1: Game Hunt, that's all they did. So by count they

805
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Speaker 1: have Teaboon Pickens money and they've got and like every year,

806
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: it's not a brand. It's not a brand that matters

807
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Speaker 1: to them. And they already have the state of Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: that they have Oklahoma Interesting, Yeah, so you would think

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00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: they would. You would think if you're a perennial Top

810
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: twenty five college football team, you would be wanted in

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Speaker 1: one of the top two conferences if there's fifty teams

812
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: in them. It's more about a combination of branding. Like so,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't flet me flip it On the other side,

814
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't the Big Ten then want Oklahoma State in

815
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: the Big Ten because it's a good football program and

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Speaker 1: it gets them into Oklahoma because you're taking this step

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Speaker 1: child of the state of Oklahoma, which isn't a state

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Speaker 1: that you care about. It's a good football program, it's

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Speaker 1: not bad. It's a ton of pros that come out

820
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Well, the crazy thing is is, if we

821
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Speaker 1: were redoing this whole conversation, you started from scratch, like Indiana, Illinois, Purdue.

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Speaker 1: None of them will be in the Big Ten. They'd

823
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: all be gone. Rutgers wouldn't be in. That was a

824
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: critical mistake. You would do it entirely differently. But some

825
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Speaker 1: of them been there a hundred years, like Minnesota, like

826
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be in, you know, that's that's the deal.

827
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Speaker 1: But they're all locked in. So that's what it is.

828
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in Arizona too good not to be involved,

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Speaker 1: sa um, I love a dog today. Alright, great twitter Anda,

830
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Speaker 1: what rule from college should be adopted by the NFL

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Speaker 1: past interference being only fifteen yards in a first down

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Speaker 1: instead of a spot foul warning. I like the no

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Speaker 1: two minute warning. I didn't really, I guess I didn't.

834
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Speaker 1: I didn't pay attention to that and realized that there

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Speaker 1: was no two minute warning. I hate the I hate

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Speaker 1: the spot following Passe interference too. There should be two

837
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Speaker 1: Passe interferences in the NFL. One that is okay, this

838
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Speaker 1: is clearly a catch. You should have the ball right

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Speaker 1: here because he would have caught it he's running free.

840
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: And another one with it is this is third and seventeen,

841
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: like a breakaway or breakaway. This is a third and

842
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: seventeen coin flip, and you just chucked at four yards

843
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: down field. That should be a fifteen yard or there's

844
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: no reason for that to be that punitive. Yeah, the

845
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: it's but it's got to be an automatic first down.

846
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: That's fine, but I don't want it to be it's

847
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: too damn punity. And your question was about the rules.

848
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Which one I like, the no no two minute or

849
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: the other one. I'll tell you what I like the

850
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: best is at the end of the games in college,

851
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: when a first down stops the clock, so before they

852
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: reset the chains, right, run that by Megan. In college,

853
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: at the end, when you pick up a first down,

854
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: they stop the clock until they reset the first downs

855
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: stop the clock. Yeah, I like that. That's cool. I

856
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: think that should be. I don't know why that's not

857
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, they reset and then you have

858
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: a chance to get up get up right. Well, what

859
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: that does is it takes out any sort of nonsense

860
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: from the officials not spotting the ball quick enough, all

861
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. It allows you to get organized,

862
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: and it makes it easier to go down the field

863
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: because it's the first down. So you could throw a

864
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: bomb and you have a chance to get up there

865
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: and run another place. And the reason you get that

866
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: because you've got a first down to accomplish something. You're

867
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: rewarded for your efforts. Yes, I like that, that's the

868
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: one I would I would take the most. And if

869
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: you did that, get you don't need a two minute warning. Yeah,

870
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: it solves it. I don't get the two minute warning anyway.

871
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't either. Hey, there's two minutes. We didn't even

872
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: have one last week? Cool? Well they they stole it

873
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: from Yeah, interesting? Did we can we snap this like

874
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: two o nine? Are you sure that that's? Yeah? We

875
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: lost thirteen seconds to give a field goal? Doesn't seem

876
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: does It's impossible? Brown's fans catch the Kevin Sevantski's Show

877
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: with Ze and Gerarde Thursday seven eight, Panini's Center Road

878
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: in Brunswick, Meat Brown's Quarter, Greg newso Hey, that's pretty cool.

879
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: Check out Thursday Football as the guys getting ready for

880
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: Monday night football and the Bengals as well. Bernie. Coming

881
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: up next, you will to Cleland Browns Daily on fift

882
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:46,560
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883
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886
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,880
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887
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to you by Twisted Tea,

888
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Speaker 1: Hard iced Tea, official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep

889
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: it Twisted. Our good buddy Bernie cos aar joining us

890
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: on the hotline right now. Where do we find you today?

891
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Good sir, we're finding ourselves in balmy, rainy Cleveland today.

892
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: It's all You never know if it's South Florida, forere

893
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. I mean, you always got to know your location,

894
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: my friend, before we get started here, Um, Bernie in

895
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: the in the game the weekend, I'm trending. I'm trending

896
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: back to make sure I'm ready for Halloween Night and

897
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Do you have what was Little Bernie

898
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: most often as a kid in Halloween? Well, I don't

899
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: know about Little Bernie, but the show, My Show, My

900
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: age right now, there there was a Jason Friday to

901
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: thirteen that wasn't That was an old standby for a

902
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: last second Halloween costume in the old days. So it's

903
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: good you added it ready. That's an it's an easy one.

904
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: It's an easy one. Pop that mask. Let's go, let's go, Bernie.

905
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: We say, it's not the prettiest day here in Cleveland.

906
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: Not the prettiest start to our season. Two and five?

907
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: What do you kind of make of this football team

908
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: that is been heartbreaking? Lee close in all of the losses,

909
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: with the exception obviously of the game against New England,

910
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: but has now lost four in a row, three of

911
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: those by three points or less. Yes, I have to

912
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: have a game, to have some of So many of

913
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: the games come down to the last second, to a

914
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: couple of plays being the difference between two and five,

915
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: and bluntly five and two or six and one is

916
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: some of a comment. Is absolutely a theme here in Cleveland,

917
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: and it's actually a common team around the NFL, and

918
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: even more in particular this year with teams and the

919
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: ability to get a W is so predicated on one

920
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: or two plays and stuff. And even just like last week,

921
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: if you would have said before the week that Jacoby

922
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Brissette was going to be twenty two for two hundred

923
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: fifty eight yards, Lamar Jackson was going to have less

924
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: than two hundred yards of total offense nine for sixteen,

925
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty yards fifty nine yards rushing, and

926
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Brown's killer Mark Andrews was gonna have no catches. You

927
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: would have thought for sure we would have won the game.

928
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: So to have, you know, to have a game like

929
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: that end up twenty like that where really we played

930
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: and we held their their offensive weapons in place, and

931
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: and Jacoby played at a good quarterback level of throwing

932
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: twenty two for seven to fifty eight Nick Chubb average

933
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: and um five point seven yards of Kerry's sixteen carry's

934
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: nine yards um. You would think those are the type

935
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: of things that are conducive towards getting a W. Yeah,

936
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: and Bernie, that's my own Monday, when we were going

937
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: all over this, this is our script, Like we played

938
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: against a really good team at their place, and we

939
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: lost a close game. The reason that this one hurts

940
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: is because the cumulative damage. It's because we didn't take

941
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunities given in the first few games

942
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: of the season. That this performance on Sunday was actually

943
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: one that was quite good. Uh well, maybe not clutch,

944
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: but it was certainly quite good in all that could

945
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: be expected based on the rosters we currently have. Yeah,

946
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's uh discouraging slash. We have to

947
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: play pay attention to, is we It wasn't like we

948
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: played a bad game, and actually, from a defensive perspective

949
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: and from an offensive efficiency perspective, that was as solid

950
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: a game as we played in the last few weeks.

951
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: And to play at Baltimore where they had a lot

952
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: of State two and to really play better than them

953
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: in a game I know him a home are here

954
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: saying that we played better than them although we got

955
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: the l played um is least as good as them,

956
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: if not better, And that's to not come away with

957
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: the w um to get the fourth loss in a row.

958
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: That type of discouragement is from a from a young

959
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: team's perspective, makes coach Stefanski and from organizationally, a massively

960
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: important week to how he's handling the psychology of his

961
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: young team getting ready for really a make or break

962
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: Monday night game before our bye game, our bye week

963
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: with the Battle of Ohio playing the Bengals. Yeah, and

964
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: that's exactly where this team finds itself now. It is.

965
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: It's now We're never the time to keep saying, oh,

966
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: well we've had three must wins in a row that

967
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: we haven't won. Well, this is this is it, right,

968
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: this is this is the Browns last stand going against

969
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: the Bengals team, Bernie, that you know, I know you're

970
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: an admirer of good quarterback play. It's one of my

971
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: favorite things watching the Manning cast is they love good

972
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: quarterback play and bad quarterback play frustrates Peyton Manning to

973
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: no end. But you're gonna be going against one of

974
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the best in the league right now. Joe Burrow, Bernie.

975
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: Since Week three, completions three or twelve yards a game,

976
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns, one pick in a quarterback rating of a

977
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen. He's been phenomenal. What makes him so good?

978
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: This is a team now that just lines up in

979
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: shotgun and passes. They don't even mess around with play action.

980
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: They just say we're better than you. And they have

981
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: been yes to see to see Joe Burrow coming into

982
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: his own And much have been made about not playing

983
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: in preseason, having the appendeck tomy surgery and preseason starting

984
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: out the season um a little bit slow and unfortunately

985
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: for US Browns fans, on Halloween Night. It looks like

986
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals are really hitting their

987
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: stride offensively. To to have watched the film the last

988
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of Joe Burrow and to see him

989
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: thirty four forty two last week four d one yards,

990
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: three touch stounds, twenty yards rush and another and a

991
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: rushing td um Tyler Boyd eight catches a hundred fifty

992
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: five yards Divart Chase eight catches a hundred and thirty

993
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: yards two touchdowns. I mean they're locked and loaded with

994
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: weapons offensively. That's that's the type of stuff where Um,

995
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow hasn't yet to beat the Cleveland Browns. Um,

996
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: that's that statistically sounds good. But for a guy that's

997
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: that competitive, you know that that bothers him and that

998
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to get off the snide and get

999
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: his first win against the Cleveland Browns just from a

1000
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: competition standpoint. And then for the magnitude of the game

1001
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: of the season and the Bengals not having any wins

1002
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: within the division, they know that the division record and

1003
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: tiebreakers are important. And then this battle of Ohio to

1004
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: the Brown family, to the Great Paul Brown from here

1005
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns and with the Cincinnati Bengals, his

1006
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: his son and daughter Katie, and Mike Brown. Um, this

1007
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: is a special game to them, so they don't look

1008
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: past the Cleveland Browns. And I think that this this

1009
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: game right now, Um, this week is is we need

1010
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: to get We need to get better offensively, and we

1011
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: need to get from a defensive perspective. We know we're

1012
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: going to be tested with their shotgun passing game down

1013
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah. But I'm gonna circle back on that

1014
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: historical stuff of the Brown family with you in a second.

1015
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: But something else I want to ask you about, and

1016
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean maybe this comment earlier in the week, the

1017
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: way that they are constructed in the receiving room especially,

1018
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: it's damn near perfect Bernie. They've got a burner who's

1019
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: physical and a game record in Chase. They've got a

1020
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: big physical guy in Higgins on the outside, and then

1021
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: Boyd handles all this stuff in the middle and his

1022
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: elite at the slot. Uh. This is something that is

1023
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: if you think about the longevity. And this isn't fun

1024
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: to admit, but as I look at this, I go, boy,

1025
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna be like this for a while and

1026
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: they've kind of constructed the perfect attack, haven't day Unfortunately,

1027
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: bo I concur with you the offensively that this is

1028
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: this is a quarterback kid for Christmas morning with the

1029
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: with the weapons around him, but from from and that's

1030
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: actually why you know, you've heard us talk about how

1031
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: the Browns and how we we struggle and stop in

1032
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: the running game. We're undersized a defensive tackle, were a

1033
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: little light at um linebacker. And part of that I

1034
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: believe was of a choice, a personnel choice and a

1035
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: schematic choice in the off season because of just what

1036
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: we're mentioning with those massively awesome, unfortunately awesome weapons to

1037
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: since any Bengals have now their week at the offensive line,

1038
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: UM that's Joe Burrow has taken an inordinate amount of

1039
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: hits through the year, UM last year and this year. UM.

1040
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: So to have the Miles Garrett and Davian Cowney being

1041
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: able to get pressure canst They passed a passing team

1042
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: that's exclusively almost shotgun. They actually if they do have

1043
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: a weakness, it's in their short yard is a goal

1044
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: line ability to get into the end zone and fourth

1045
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: down from the one and two yard line. Because they

1046
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: even though they have mixed and a phenomenal running back.

1047
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: He has fifty eight yards last week um three receptions

1048
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: for thirty three yards. They still struggle a little bit

1049
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: of running the running the ball. And we were actually

1050
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: constructed with the Denzel Awards and Newsom's and Emersons and

1051
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: stuff that we I believe we kind of got our

1052
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: personnel with dbs and pass rushing to actually match up

1053
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: against teams like the Cincinnati Bengals. This is from a

1054
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: personnel a defensive personnel standpoint, you know, with our defensive backs,

1055
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: hopefully Denzel's coming back, that this is the type of

1056
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: week where we need our dvs to play as best possible,

1057
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: lockdown on those those boyd Higgins and Chase and then

1058
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: our defensive line to take advantage of probably the one

1059
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: limitation within their offense, and that's their past protection. If

1060
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: you could get if you could get off, get off

1061
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: on their past protection. Clip pressure on Joe Burrow. Yeah,

1062
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: you've got to. They've given up twenty five sacks' is

1063
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: your third most in the league. Thirteen of those, though,

1064
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: came in the first two weeks, twelve in the last

1065
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: five Bernie you mentioned, you know, getting that pressure and

1066
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: last year, one of our recipes for success against Joe Burrow,

1067
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: we actually blitzed our nickel corner. If people remember, Troy

1068
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: Hill had two sacks in that game. We blitzed him

1069
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: often and that disrupted them. The Browns would have five

1070
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: sacks in that game as a team. Um But now

1071
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: with him being out of the shotgun, with their improvements

1072
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: in their offensive line and the fact that Burrow has

1073
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: a D twenty one rating against the blitz this year,

1074
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: he hasn't thrown a pick, five touchdowns, eight point six

1075
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: yards and attempts. You know, how do you do that?

1076
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: Is this a game where you must generate your pressure

1077
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: organically or do you still try and come and bring

1078
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: that blitz because it's something we've had success within the past. Well.

1079
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: As a quarterback, a pocket quarterback, I enjoyed drawn against

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: the blitz. And you can see that Joe Burrow has

1081
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: the weapons to throw against the blitz and he kind

1082
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: of has the presence and confidence to make place against

1083
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: the blitz. That being said, I'm right with you, though, Nathan.

1084
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: Last year we had five sacks and Troy Hill had

1085
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: two by doing those kind of five man creative um

1086
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: Man blitz and zone blitz type nickel blitz is um

1087
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: from from that to kind of solidify that they're keeping

1088
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: their offensive line and somewhat of a mental confusion stan

1089
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: standpoint as to how to really block, and then sometimes

1090
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: that helped helped create some one on ones for Miles

1091
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: Garrett as opposed to those double and triple teams that

1092
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: he's been sent seeing. So um uh. Joe Burrow also

1093
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: does a really good job when you play just soft

1094
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: zone against them. So I actually would I want to

1095
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: mix it up. I know that's playing on the fence

1096
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: that you have to mix it up against teams like

1097
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: that and qbs of that elite level. Um, you need

1098
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: to mix it up. But but um, I wouldn't be

1099
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: afraid of the blitz because that that is what we

1100
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: had some success with last year, and we're gonna have

1101
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: to try We're gonna have to try some of some

1102
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: of that out. And if you could get their line,

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: um with a little bit of confusion, or you get

1104
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: some you get some uncertainty in how they're past protecting

1105
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: and or running routes or their sense of timing, I

1106
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: think you need to try to amplify those types of

1107
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: indecisions within within their head to try to create some

1108
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: mental mistakes by them. Bernie, you mentioned how much this

1109
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: one means to the Brown family. I think it can

1110
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: be argued pretty clearly that you played in the golden

1111
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: era of this with Sam and obviously Marty and you

1112
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: and Boomer and Paul Brown still around and all of that.

1113
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: What what was this week like for you when it

1114
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: was Bengal's week, when it was Battle of Ohio? And

1115
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: what sense did you get of what it meant to

1116
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: Paul Brown to come here and play the team of

1117
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: his namesake. Wow, bo I gotta tell you, a whole

1118
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: blast of adrenaline and goose bumps just went through my

1119
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: body as you were asking me that question. And it's

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: still that adrenaline, goose bumps, excitement goes through your body

1121
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: when I think about that. And yes, I just say,

1122
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: the joke about the CTE has affected us, but it

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: has not affected my memory on how Bert Modell and

1124
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: the Brown's organization was that week. Um, Mr Modell, God

1125
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: bless he's passed, but and Mr Brown has passed, but

1126
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: his son and daughter, Katie and Mike are still there.

1127
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: That attitude that week. You knew within our locker room

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: that that meant a hell of a lot to the

1129
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: Brown's over zation Mr Modell and and his his fun

1130
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: office people, because they were accountable for our performance that week.

1131
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: And when I would be able to go on the

1132
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: field in the mid eighties and see their great Paul Brown,

1133
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: it was it was an awesome honor for me as

1134
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: a historian of the game. And then actually one of

1135
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: my favorite, one of my most favorite days I've had

1136
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: in my fifty eight years of life, was I was

1137
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: at the Mobile Senior Bowl Senior Bowl um probably about

1138
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, and I flew down with Mike Brown

1139
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: and UH coach Cooper Ohio State and coach Cooper was

1140
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: scouting for the Bengals. And Mike Brown has taken a

1141
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: lot of flak over the years for for sometimes people

1142
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: say his his knowledge of football and and how he

1143
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: understands the game and stuff and I and I had

1144
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: heard those type rumors, but I had never met him.

1145
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: And I got to spend a day with him just

1146
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: talking xs and ohs and just talking football and schemes

1147
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: and coverages and high low stretches, and for a for

1148
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: a man who is an owner, I was absolutely so

1149
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: impressed with his level of knowledge of the exes and

1150
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: ohs of football that um it was. It was so

1151
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: much fun for me to be able to hang out

1152
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: with him and go back and forth with sexas and ohs,

1153
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: And then for him to be such an astute fan

1154
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: of the Browns, and for him growing up as a

1155
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: little boy being a Browns fan on the East side

1156
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. He knows everything about about Cleveland, the team,

1157
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: the city, and for me and I hope Boomer as

1158
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: size and I love you, Boomer. I hope you're listening

1159
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: to hear this clip. But but for us to have

1160
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: been able to beat their backside so bad and get

1161
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: the better side of that Battle of Ohio in the

1162
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: mid eighties, for a hell of a lot of levity

1163
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: and jovialness out of me. I love that. I think

1164
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Boomer is going to be on the Manning Cast this week. Oh,

1165
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the cast. That'll be pretty good. Yeah.

1166
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: So then you'll get, Oh, he's gotta he's gonna let me.

1167
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: He's gotta let me get on the Manning Cast with him.

1168
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: So I'll tell the truth about what the Battle of

1169
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: oh I was like when they need to go home

1170
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: so sad, So we got to get that done. Let's

1171
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: get Bernie and Boomer on the Manning cast together. That

1172
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: would be the way you do. It would be great.

1173
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: We got to get to get that done, Bernie, come on, Peyton,

1174
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: let's get that done. Yeah we won, We won the game.

1175
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: We won most of the games back then. Yes you did, Yes,

1176
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: you did, which is glorious talking. Let's keep you keep it,

1177
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: keep it rolling. Yeah, we're gonna keep that streak going. Actually,

1178
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: and the Bengals, I know we'll probably going to a

1179
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: break and stuff. But the Bengals games, that was one

1180
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: of the games that started me on my obsession with

1181
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: what I do for the first play of the game,

1182
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: because in big games on the road or in Monday

1183
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: night games, you'd like to be able to show early

1184
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: what you want to do and that you have confidence

1185
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I had multiple games against the Bengals

1186
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: where they are important games, and instead of like coming

1187
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: out and running the ball up the middle and being

1188
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: safe and secure and patient early in the game, going

1189
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: going hard for the jugular and going hard at showing

1190
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: people you believe in going after him. And that was

1191
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: fun for me to be able to use use some

1192
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: aggressive down the field throws to put the Bengals in

1193
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: their place back in the day. How important is it

1194
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 1: for a quarterback since you mentioned that right there, to

1195
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: have that early game success, first throw success, first drive success,

1196
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: because I think back just New England game Jacoby for

1197
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: sets interception on the second play that clearly rattled him.

1198
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: But last week we went right down the field and

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: he was feeling great and he ends up seven. How

1200
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: much does that actually matter to a quarterback? You know,

1201
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: Nathan A fantastic question. Uh, if I was playing in

1202
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: the QBS that we're playing. When we're playing, we say, hey,

1203
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: we're pros or veterans, we don't get affected by it. Um,

1204
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: we're able to handle it. We know if we starts slow,

1205
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: we'll be able to come back. Um. We say that

1206
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: to talk ourselves into it. It absolutely is a difference.

1207
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: And when you are able and you believe you could

1208
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: do something and you actually come out and you do it,

1209
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: you hit a nice pass down down the fields, you

1210
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: score on your first drive, you absolutely have way more

1211
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: confidence and belief. And I absolutely played better with it.

1212
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: Just like if on the rare occasions when you stunk

1213
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the game or you blew a

1214
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: couple of throws. That demon really resonates in your head.

1215
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: And I actually thought about it Monday night when I

1216
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: was watching um uh Matt Jones and Zappy in the

1217
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: New England game. You know when you uh, it almost

1218
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: like Mac was was almost predetermined to um if you

1219
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: had some issues to get benched and stuff. So sometimes

1220
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: if you don't feel confident, if you don't feel like

1221
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: you could make the place and stuff, you feel like

1222
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: your team doesn't believe in your your coach doesn't believe

1223
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: in you, that absolutely affects your performance, your ability to

1224
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: stick the ball in there and execute these players. You're

1225
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 1: the best, buddy, love our conversations. Thanks for your time today.

1226
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: God bless you. You matter. Go Brown's big game Monday night.

1227
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. The great Bernie Coos are joining

1228
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: us on the Twisted Tea Hotline. It's pretty amazing that

1229
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: Art Model didn't change the name of this team when

1230
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: he fired Paul Brown. Yeah, where would you have? God,

1231
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I wasn't Art Model in

1232
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: the sixties, But I mean you just think to yourself, like,

1233
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: sometimes we don't even consider that that there is a

1234
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: team owned by Paul owns family in this state in

1235
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: our division. Prior to this year, played in Paul Brown

1236
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: in Paul Brown Stadium, were named after the guy Modell

1237
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: fired him. At that point, he could have named it anything.

1238
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: And at that point championships though, right, But at that time,

1239
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: like you could have done anything. It's not like there

1240
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: was any pressure. The NFL isn't what it is now.

1241
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: There wasn't the branding, There wasn't the loyalty behind it

1242
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: for decade upon decade upon decade. It would have been

1243
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: relatively easy at that time to rebrand to whatever he

1244
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: thought the team should have been. Like, I'm glad he didn't,

1245
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: but at the same time, like it it is a

1246
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: wild thing that you might add better colors. Yeah you

1247
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: I suppose so, Yeah, we only seen with Brown in

1248
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: the whole league. Yeah yeah, so it is. Isn't that

1249
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: weird to me that he didn't that he has that

1250
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: time and he was like, yeah, we'll just roll with this.

1251
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: And then how piste off would you be if you're

1252
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: Paul and you're fired and you're like, well, I'm gonna

1253
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 1: start a new team And was literally looking at Columbus

1254
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: and then ended up in Cincinnati and thinking like wait,

1255
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I gotta play play the Browns. I gotta play named

1256
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: after me, named after me. It's wild. We don't consider

1257
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: it much other than this week when you play them. Uh,

1258
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: will you like in your other line of work that

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Speaker 1: if you were somehow let go of that show and

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Speaker 1: they brought somebody else and they kept the same name.

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Speaker 1: Yea more emphasis on the friends apparently less the bishop. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'd be pretty well where that happened. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: think confusion, Yeah, it would be. Jake Toront will join us.

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Speaker 1: on the Twisted Tea Hotline for a visit with our

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Speaker 1: old buddy, Jake Trotter of ESPN joining us. Jake, thanks

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Speaker 1: for taking the time, buddy. Let's let's just start out

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Speaker 1: with um. This is such a big week for a

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. We have the trade deadline coming up

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. You have the Bengals here on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: You're coming off of a divisional loss. Um, it feels

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: already like we're in a little bit of a danger

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01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: zone here. What's your read around the team this week

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: in terms of their approach to this week. Yeah, but

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01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: it's a huge game. If you lose it, it's it's

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01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: hard to find the path back, especially with the schedule

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: that you're going to have after the buy at Miami

1283
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: at Bath Buffalo in Tampa Bay, who's struggling but still

1284
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: has Tom Brady and in some pretty impressive weapons around him.

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Speaker 1: You know that the the team hasn't had like their

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: normal schedule, as you guys know. Because the Monday night game,

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: I think we'll have a better feel for the state

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: of the team later this week. You know, when they

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: kind of get into they're harder their practices. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a very frustrated group on Sunday afternoon evening,

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01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you that. And you know, they played

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: pretty well on Sunday. I think they played actually their

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: best game of the season and they still lose. And

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: now to be in the situation you're in, it definitely

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: feels like it's teetering and could fall off the precipice

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: with the with the lost Monday Night, There's no doubt

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01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: that it is a sitting here at two and five

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01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: star and two and six in the face and being

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: multiple games behind both teams ahead of you in the division,

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: or you have a chance to kind of at least

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01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: give yourself some life, get back into it with a

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Speaker 1: win over a Bengals team you've beaten, Jake, when this

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01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: team's as this team sits here at two and five,

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: if you were kind of to identify, you know, three

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: things that are most responsible for how the Browns have

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: gotten here, what would they be? Yeah, I mean I

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: think you have to star, aren't with and I know

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: they played really well, I thought, at least on Sunday.

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01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean the defense has been a massive, a massive disappointment.

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01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean they've been you know, right around thirty in

1311
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: the NFL in defense, you know, efficiency, d v O, A,

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01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: whatever analytic you want to include. You know, they've been

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01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: especially bad in the fourth quarter. And has it just

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: been you know, one game, you know, the Jets game.

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01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: I think kind of put the Browns on this path

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: to where we are now. But they didn't play well

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01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Defensively in Carolina, we've seen how

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: bad you know, that offense is, and you know, just

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01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: to struggle across the board in a way I don't

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: think any of us would have predicted. I mean, we

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: knew that, you know, stopping the run could be a

1322
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: little bit of an issue, but not to this extent

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01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: that you know that you're having a trade for linebackers

1324
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. Um, you know, we

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01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: we thought that, uh, you know, maybe it would take

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01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: a little while, but that they would find their stride

1327
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, uh in the secondary like they did last year.

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: And you know, again the defense played well Sunday, but

1329
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: until then, you know, guys are just wide open all

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: the time in opportune moments, and that's been a killer

1331
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: as well, especially for a secondary we thought was gonna

1332
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Speaker 1: be what top five, right then we all agree to

1333
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: five secondary And from a talent perspective, I don't think

1334
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: that we were far off. But you know, guys that

1335
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: just you know, not produced to the level we thought

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: that they would, you know, out of training camp. So

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's number one, you know, number two,

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: you're playing with a backup quarterback, but I would say

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01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: this guy's I mean, if I had told you before

1340
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: the season that Nick Chubb would be leading the NFL

1341
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: and rushing Jacoby Brissette would be top twelve and QB R.

1342
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: I think we all agree that receiving receivers and tight

1343
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: ends and probably exceeded expectations a little bit. Yeah, and

1344
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: Joeku DPJ and Marii Cooper vall played well, and then

1345
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line has been its normal dominant self. Like

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard to you know, it's hard

1347
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: to look at that in say, man, you know what's

1348
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: wrong with this team? But you know, offensively, they're just

1349
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: not as explosive as some of the teams that they're

1350
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: getting ready to face. And so you know, I hate

1351
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: to company Percetta then the least of their issues, but

1352
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: he's still a backup quarterback for a reason. And then

1353
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: you know, you you look at the special teams guys

1354
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, just awful across the board on Sunday,

1355
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: and it really gets exposed when you're playing a special

1356
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: teams unit that's just phenomenal, like the Ravens, I mean,

1357
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: big pump return, you know, huge field goals, I mean

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: control the field position. I mean, I don't even know

1359
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: that there was a you know, special teams, uh that

1360
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: that didn't get completely outplayed by the Ravens in that game. Blocks,

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: blocks the field goal at the end of the game.

1362
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: So those are three things that that stick out to me.

1363
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: And I think there are some other issues. Game management

1364
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: has been an issue at times. Um, you know that's

1365
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: contributed to some of these fourth quarter collapses. Um. You know,

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01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: injuries are are not helpful right now. Um, you know,

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01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: the in Joku injury I think is going to be

1368
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: a killer that that we're not really talking a lot about.

1369
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: But it's gonna. I think it's gonna it's gonna appear

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Speaker 1: that way Monday night when the Browns are trying to

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Speaker 1: score with Cincinnati. So it's it's a bunch of days.

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Speaker 1: Are you asked for three? There you go, David, and

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: Joku has got fifty or more yards receiving in five

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: straight games, seventy or more than four of those five

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: second in the NFL and receiving yards amongst side and

1376
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: since Week two, Harrison Bryant's career high as fifty six yards,

1377
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: which happened. We had well, I was gonna say, we

1378
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Speaker 1: have this new receiving analytic that we've been compiled dating

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: data for the USPIAN. We just kind of made it public,

1380
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's it's compiled that over you know,

1381
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: multiple years to kind of come up with I think,

1382
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: kind of an appropriate representation of where, uh, you know,

1383
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 1: how receivers and tight ends perform. It's like you know,

1384
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: getting separation, making contested catches, you know, yards after the catch,

1385
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 1: all of that into one rating. David and Joku is

1386
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: number or two among Titans. Travis Hilsey is the only

1387
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: one that's ahead of him. I don't think phenomenal realize

1388
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: how how good of the season he was having before

1389
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: that injury. It's a lot with the Anthony Walker thing.

1390
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: I think those of us who pay really close attention

1391
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: to the team know what the loss meant. When you

1392
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: see the loss of the joke of the loss to Walker,

1393
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: if you pay really close attention, you knew. But but

1394
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: from the public at large, I think it's like, oh,

1395
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: just a tight end, just a linebacker, No, just give

1396
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: it to chub Yeah right right. So much more than that.

1397
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, guys, I was surprised by how

1398
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: big the Anthony Walker injury. I just didn't I just

1399
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to have that big of

1400
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: an effect on the running the running defense. You know,

1401
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: he's definitely a leader on the team, Like I thought

1402
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: that that would be a thing, But just his playing

1403
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: on the field is something that they missed and that's

1404
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: not a guy you think of when you think about

1405
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: the Brown's defense, at least to begin the season. It

1406
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: was more than just his play, which was stellar in

1407
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: those games. It was his ability to diagnose things pre

1408
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: snap and relay that to the young players around him.

1409
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: And so I don't think it's a surprise that the

1410
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: first week that jeremiahsu Kormoa has bounced back since Anthony

1411
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: Walker went down. One Anthony Walker was back in the

1412
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: building working with them in practice, but Dion Jones was

1413
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: on the field with him. He he when he knows

1414
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,839
Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do. Jok's as good as anybody

1415
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: in the league, but he's still learning and to have

1416
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: those veterans matters a great deal for him. Yeah, they

1417
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: definitely have looked lost without Anthony Walker, and I just

1418
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: didn't think it would happen to that degree that it has. Yeah,

1419
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: Jake um We Nathan I talked about this on Monday

1420
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: that the loss to Cincinnati now operate, You're now operating

1421
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: on a couple of two parallel planes. Here. One sure

1422
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: beat Cincinnati and you're a game back of them, and

1423
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: who knows what happens with Baltimore. Season is alive, although daunting,

1424
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: you can still you can still be in that mix.

1425
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: At the same time, you say to yourself, well, how

1426
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: can we we recoup perhaps some of the things that

1427
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: are out there in terms of the we've given up

1428
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: for Watson for example, I'm talking about draft capital or

1429
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: young players. Kareem Hunt has been mentioned a lot, your

1430
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: your colleague at ESP and Jeremy Fowler mentioned green Hunt,

1431
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams, all sorts of reports that calls have been

1432
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: taken on those guys out there, maybe Jack Conklin as well. Um,

1433
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: what do you make of the noise around this team

1434
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: from that perspective, Yeah, I mean, I think the Monday

1435
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: night game is going to have a big impact on

1436
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: the way that Tuesday trade deadline goes. You know, if

1437
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: they get you know, if they get dialed up and

1438
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: let's you know, let's save the guy. Cincinnati is capable

1439
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: of dialing up this Browns team, you know the way. Yeah,

1440
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: so like if you just get you know, if if

1441
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: it's similar to the New England game, then I think

1442
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: I think everything is on the table at that point,

1443
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: and you know, you trade away a guy like Kareem Hunt, Like,

1444
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: what kind of message does that send to the team.

1445
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: Probably not a great one about what you think about

1446
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: your prospects for the rest of the season. But like,

1447
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: as you said, Bo, you're light on draft picks right now.

1448
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: And I mean, if there was an offer work taking,

1449
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: like I think I think Sala wrote that, you know,

1450
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: the Browns would do it for a fourth round pick.

1451
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. Sixth round pick like the

1452
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: James Robinson trade. I just I don't know that worth

1453
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: it to you guys. I wouldn't know do that. So

1454
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: it just kind of depends what you're getting offered. But

1455
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: it you know, the fan base should be aware of

1456
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: two things. One, like all of this is possible, Like

1457
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: there could be you know, there's a scenario where the

1458
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: Browns are a seller at the deadline, but be like,

1459
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: you're not getting a second round pick for Kareem Montlo.

1460
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: So it's it's uh, you know, if you're gonna fire

1461
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: sell like it's got to be worthwhile. But I don't

1462
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: think you're getting anything but day three picks for any

1463
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: of these guys that could potentially be on the block, right,

1464
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 1: And I think that's the scenario you're in. You're much likely,

1465
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: as we said, to be a seller rather than a buyer.

1466
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: But if you are a buyer, maybe you're finding somebody

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Speaker 1: that is, you know, in a situation under a rookie contract,

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01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 1: that you think can help you in the future. It

1469
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: is interesting the Browns where he said, what's the message.

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01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of belief in Deernest Johnson

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01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: and Jerome Ford, who we haven't seen that you know,

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: we do have an overabundance of talent at the running

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01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: back position, and certainly Nick Chubb is not going anywhere

1474
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 1: the league's leader in rushing. But yeah, it's it's an

1475
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: interesting scenario and it it really is incredible how we've

1476
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: gotten here. And I think I go back to you

1477
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about earlier. The Jets game, I

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01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: think kind of set you off into a a little bit,

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01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: and I know you bounced back and you beat the Steelers,

1480
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: but that game you should have been three and oh,

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: and then it's who knows how you play in Atlanta

1482
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: at three and oh, and I know you had injuries there,

1483
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: but it just feels like special teams. You know, on

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01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: side kick, miss extra point, miss, two field goals against

1485
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers, the big return that just handed three points

1486
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: you know to the Ravens in that last game. Those

1487
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: little things are adding up for a team that doesn't

1488
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: have a big margin for error. And it's also I

1489
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: think causing us to lose sight of you lead with this,

1490
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: but if we were to say, okay, we're gonna play

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01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: against in seven games, we're gonna play against Baker Mayfield,

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01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Mitch Robiski. By the way, none of those

1493
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: three are starting for their teams anymore. Bigger was doing

1494
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: scout teamwork today in Carolina Marcus Mariota, who is still starting.

1495
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert Bailey's appy and Lamar Jackson. You'd say, okay,

1496
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: two tough matchups there with the quarterbacks. Obviously Herbert and

1497
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: Lamar five very easy ones, but were the number six

1498
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: total offense, the number ten scoring offense, were first in

1499
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, and big plays as an offense, You'd say,

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01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: of course, we're five and two. So it says defense,

1501
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: special teams issues that have just in many ways kind

1502
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: of derailed what could have been a surprisingly good start

1503
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: to the season before you got to Shawn Watson back

1504
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: and you mentioned those quarterbacks that the Browns of face,

1505
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: and then you look at the ones that they're getting

1506
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: ready to face, and I mean, this is kind of

1507
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: the problem you're in. Now. You can play, you can

1508
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: play your what do you get? What are you guys

1509
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: seeing they played in Baltimore? Did you say, like a

1510
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 1: B plus type game, maybe even a minus. Great defense,

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with I thought it was

1512
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: the best maybe their best performance fishing offense, not great

1513
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: special teams, and you had your turnover was more costly

1514
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: than their turnout. You were great defensively, your quarterback went

1515
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: and when you ran first started to carry. Yeah, I

1516
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 1: mean you can't like you can play. The point is

1517
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: you can play your A minus game of course, season

1518
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: next four games and lose all four games. You've got

1519
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: brow that you were way better than you're not. That's right,

1520
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: that they're not better than any of these teams are

1521
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: getting ready to face, with the possible exception to Tampa.

1522
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: But but I have more faith in Tampa what they

1523
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 1: might be by the time we get the Thanksgiving than

1524
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: than what we've seen out of Cleveland so far. So

1525
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: you're in a position now where you can play really

1526
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: well and still lose. And I mean, I don't know

1527
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: what what do you guys think the record is going

1528
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: to be when Deshaun Watson gets back. That's I've been

1529
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: helping this all week that the that I this Baltimore

1530
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: loss isn't the one that sticks in my crap because

1531
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: this is this was the best way for us to

1532
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: play against good teams. We lost to a good team

1533
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: at their place in a hotly contest with a chance

1534
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: to win it late, Like that's all you could ask

1535
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: for based on the way this team is constructed. To

1536
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: answer your question, I think that I think you could

1537
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: pedal hope and it's slim and I understand this a reach.

1538
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 1: I think you could peddle it at four and seven

1539
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: with Watson coming back based on what's happening around in

1540
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: the a f C. It's a tall tale to pedal.

1541
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: I I understand and acknowledge, But that's requiring you to

1542
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: win two of the next four. So that's that's where's

1543
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: the minimum that you have to get. Are they more

1544
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: likely to be four and seven or two and nine?

1545
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: I can't even say the other out loud because then, yeah,

1546
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: you've lost because you do it in the first five games. Yes,

1547
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: we saw DeShawn Watson and Jacksonville. I'm not saying he's

1548
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: gonna be that poor coming out of the gate, but

1549
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: like he's not gonna be twenty nineteen DeShawn Watson on

1550
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: the first half back after you're and half away. So

1551
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 1: this idea, because if you're four and seven, guys, you

1552
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: probably to go six and oh, yes, they're not going

1553
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: six and oh, so you've got to get the five

1554
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: and six, which means you've got to win three of

1555
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: these next uh four is four? Yeah, three of these

1556
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: next four games? And like, there is no evidence to

1557
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: suggest that this team is capable of that against the

1558
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: teams are getting ready to play. No, no, there's not. Yeah,

1559
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: that's where it is. So but you beat you beat Cincinnati,

1560
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: and like, you know, maybe maybe the equation begins to change.

1561
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, all you can do is take it one

1562
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: game at a time. But here's the with the except look,

1563
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: we can beat Buffalo, it would we would be significantly

1564
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: there's a very percentage. It doesn't feel like right. They

1565
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: are going to be a prohibitive favorite against us. But

1566
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: we're capable of beating anybody. We're capable of losing to anybody,

1567
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: but we're capable of beating anybody. That's been the problem.

1568
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: And we have lost the teams we shouldn't have, and

1569
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: we have not yet beaten somebody that we shouldn't have.

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01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: And so that ends up with and four of these

1571
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: games are three points or less. You know, you recover

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01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: an onside kick, you beat the Jets, you do something

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01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: that you went, you win a game that had been one.

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01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: I believe I still have this number two thousand, two

1575
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six times in a row. In that

1576
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: scenario that game had been one. You do that, you're

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01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: three and four with a chance to get to four

1578
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: and four. That's all you have to do. You make

1579
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: a field goal one of two against the Chargers, and

1580
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: you win that game just on on two plays on

1581
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: special teams alone, recover an on sidekick, make a field goal,

1582
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: and we're four and three. Not to mention what we

1583
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: couldn't need. Yeah, no, I'm with you, Although I will

1584
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: see this. I could make the case that the Browns

1585
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: two wins have come against the number thirty one and

1586
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: number thirty two ranked teams in the NFL, no doubt,

1587
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: and they were more of struggles than they should have been.

1588
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: We need a fifty eight yard or to beat an

1589
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: awful Panthers team, who, by the way, the Carolina might

1590
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: be playing their best quarterback right now. So j Walker,

1591
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 1: this has all been real fun. Yeah, very positively. Appreciate you.

1592
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm usually trying to, you know, find the optimism, but

1593
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: it stops out. Guys. Yeah, it's good talking to you, buddy,

1594
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Speaker 1: which is very very nice. I got a hot take

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Speaker 1: for you since we were talking Ken Sack earlier. Joan

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Speaker 1: greater than John? What's Apex Joan? Fair question? So in

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Speaker 1: my mind, Apex Joan loved her in Arlington Road, fine film,

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Speaker 1: great thriller, Jeff Bridges, Tim Robbins, Adams family, she's great

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Speaker 1: and all of Adam's family. She's in the toy story

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Speaker 1: of as a voice actress. She does a lot, She's

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Speaker 1: done a lot of stuff, and I find her to

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Speaker 1: be very very entertaining school of rock in that. I

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01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: think the only reason I have to overrule you as

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Speaker 1: the fact that q Sack in Connair he's running around

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Speaker 1: in like sandals with socks and Khaki's stealing cobras. That's

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Speaker 1: his best. That's where I find him to be the

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Speaker 1: most enjoyable. And like weel, she was also great by

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Speaker 1: the way, in My Blue Heaven, No big Deal, Fine Films.

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Speaker 1: It's close. I can't totally co sign it, but it's

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Speaker 1: not outrageous. It's not outrageous, not outrageous, and it should

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Speaker 1: be outrageous. But it's not out, but it's not Yeah,

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