1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Like that is to me. One of the great mysteries 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: of the wide receiver conundrum here is you've got like 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: half the guys who haven't been practicing. How many Bobby 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Rainey's do you need? Yeah? That always that, that always 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: happens in the pre season to do it every year? 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Do you have too many players? Count him up? No, 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I taught him up. Welcome into the 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: lounge presented by our friends Draft Kings. If you're not 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: playing fantasy football, honestly, are you even a football? Uh? 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: We today are happy to be joined by Erica Colasta. 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: I'll play him. You'll play that role, I'll play that role. 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: I'll be E d C. Every dollar counts for the day. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: You can be Nick Matdio and Pat Moriarty. Okay, so 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm the head hunt show your reports me, um, and 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you the full fifty three man roster breakdown, 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: our projections, projections and and a couple of things. Here. 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: We we do our own making eye each do our own. 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: We don't do the same one, So we do our own. 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: And then we like to compete against each other and 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: see who wins. I win every year. So there's no 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: question there. The other thing is he joked about us 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: being the brain trust here. The truth is the brain 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: trust doesn't tell us, so they're going to take on 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: fifty three man rosters. So that's a disclaimer, no inside intel, 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: this is just intel from watching practice every day, Yeah, 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: watching practice, watching the preseason. And also we're recording this 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: before the final preseason game. Roster cut down day is Tuesday, 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: so this final preseason game could alter you know what 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: some of the projections and during could happen to player 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce, could happen where he blows up in the 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: last game. So basically we say all that to say 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: if we miss any that's why exactly we're already see 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: that's how you make projections. You build in excuses to 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: what ahead of time, pre build excuses to why you 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: got it wrong. And if if you want to play 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: along essentially with us, well you can do that by participating. 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: And are you picked the team competition, good to Baltimos 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: dot com slash you picked the team, make your fifty 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: three man roster prediction. Whoever wins that contest, we'll get 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: a pair of tickets to the Chiefs game. So that's 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a pretty sweet prize, and obviously, if you're smart what 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Garrett is not, you will just copy whatever I say. Okay, 43 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: So get your pen and paper out and start and 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: start writing this down. All right, let's jump right into it. 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: Just before we start, are you sure that you have three? 46 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: Because you just counted about four different times and had 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: a right before we started taping head across a couple 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: of guys off your list because you had what I 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: think I counted this correctly, okay, but we'll go back 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: and double check at the head. Alright. So, um, I 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: feel like we make this joke every year, Lamar Jackson, 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: you have him? Well you want to start? Let's let's 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: let's start with some easy stuff here. The specialists are 54 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna be Sam Cook, Justin Tucker, and Nick Moore the 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: long snapper. So that's three right there. All right, Jake 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Barty he still making the team. Justin Tucker said to 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: be shocked here. You sure you don't want to put 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: he said he'd be shocked if he didn't make another team. 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: He didn't say he'd he shocked him. He doesn't make 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: sure you don't want to put him on, I'll leave 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: him off. Do you think just as a really quick sidebar. 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: Do you think the Rams will be able to trade 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: him for a pick? For a pick? Obviously it would 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: be for a pick, but yeah, I do not think 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen unfortunately. Okay, we cover some of that 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: and in the podcast. Uh, we just traded for somebody 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: from the Giants. So that's one. As we said, you 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: need multiple, multiple suitors. Ones off the table now. Alright, 69 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: so all right, we got three there. Let's start with offense, 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: um and we can run through the list pretty quickly. Receiver, 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: how do you want to start with a quarterback? Get 72 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: a start to the top, alright, quarterback Lamar Jackson and 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley? Do you have trades men sorely on the team? 74 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: I do not. I do not either. And and just 75 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: on that, you know last year the Ravens kept three 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for most of the season, with Robert Griffin the 77 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: third and Trace McSorley. Huntley was on the practice squad. 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I think with Trace and the back injury, maybe he 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: gets released ends up on the practice squad. I mean 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: that's I think that Trace is still here this year, 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: and I think the practice squad would be the avenue 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: for that. I know there's some fans who feel like 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: if he gets released, another team could pick him up. 84 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: Always a possibility. That's the case with every single guy 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: who the Ravens could release. But I think that he's 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, it's gonna happen. Yeah, I think 87 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: we've said this before. I think he's a better fit 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: for this offense, in this system, and I think they 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: give him a pretty good chance to land on the 90 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: practice squad here. Yes, agreed? All right? Running back J K. Dobbins, 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: gus the bus? Uh? Patrick Ricard? Do you want to 92 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: I mean he's full back, tight end, whatever room you 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: want to account theim in. He's making the team. And 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: then do you have Tyson Williams on the team or 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: do you have Justice Hill or named Craig? You have 96 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: Tyson Williams? Really, Oh, you already made the first mistake. 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: You've already made the first I should have known you 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: sucking this? What you have? Justice Hill? Yes? Interesting? Well 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: look so look here's my thing. And I think I 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: really like Tyson. I think he's good. But how many times? 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: How many times you have to be fooled by this? 102 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: The running back getting a bunch of carries, making some play? 103 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: How many Bobby Rainey's you need Yeah, that always that, 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: That always happens in the preseason every year. But well 105 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: sometimes like you get some good guys. Gus Edwards was 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: somebody who had a pretty strong preseason, turned out to 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: be a good player. He didn't make the fifty podn't 108 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: make the fifty three, turn out to be a pretty 109 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: good player. You're making my case. Here's the reason, and 110 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: this is Justice Hill hasn't been out there. I mean 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: Justice Hill hasn't been practicing and hasn't been playing, so like, 112 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: what does his hell status he's dealt with injury issues. 113 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: It really hasn't been on the field for a good camp. 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: So you're gonna cut him. You're just gonna straight cut him. 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Somebody will pick him up. Sure, yeah, you would have 116 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: you would cut him, you would you would cut him. 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: But I think that the Ravens see more. I think 118 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: a special teams value in him, which you've already you know, 119 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: you took a hit on special teams with l J. Fort. 120 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: He was one of the top gunners last year. Justice 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Hill was how many times you want to have dafe 122 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: o A actually running down there risk in a first 123 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: round picks health right, Justice Hill good gunner, offers more 124 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: than Tyson does on special teams, which we know these 125 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: last roster decisions. Special teams is a big factor. Plus, 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, I like the way Tyson has run 127 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: the ball, but I think Justice offers more variety to 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: the offense than Tyson does. Right, Like how Taysan is is, 129 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean he's kind of a hybrid 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: between uh JK and GUS a little bit. Justice is 131 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: more of that, you know, use them on the quick, 132 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, reverse. He's more of a scat back, right, 133 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: which Tyson is not. He's a bigger body guy at 134 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: six ft to twenty. You know, Justice Hill is a 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: scatback at and I think that they can find a 136 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: little a few wrinkles for him in this offense as 137 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: the third running back. All right, so you've got our 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: first disagreement right there. All right, let's go to wider 139 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: So wait, wait, hold on, are you doubting yourself? You 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: do wish you could have changed that right now? You 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: get the waight out. No, No, I'm not you wish 142 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: you had out here. Here's if Justice will have been 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: healthy over the course of the entire summer, then it 144 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: would be a different conversation happened. I'm not blaming the guy. 145 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Tyson Williams has seized his opportunity 146 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: since Justice Hill has been hurt. All right, let's go 147 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: to wide receiver. And this is tough because you want 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: to talk about injuries, and this is also something we 149 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: should say here. I think that this year's roster is 150 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: one of the more complicated things to maneuver around because 151 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: you've got a handful of injuries for guys who are 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna be on the team. Uh. And so, just so 153 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: people are aware of how the rule works, this year, 154 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: teams have an unlimited number of injured reserve spots. If 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: you go on injured reserve, you're out for three weeks 156 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: and then you can come back. The caveat there is 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you have to be on the active roster when that 158 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster said everyone, So you gotta be 159 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: on the active roster then and then and then you 160 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: then they move you to this i R designation after that. Right, 161 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: So you could have a situation where guys are activated, 162 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: they go there on the active roster, and then they 163 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: go on to i R on September two. So that 164 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: is a potential for a handful of people. Okay, all right, 165 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: so that's just the and I think that that becomes 166 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: difficult when you're looking at wide receiver with a guy 167 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: like a Rashad Bateman. I think it's difficult at tight 168 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: end when you're looking at Nick Boyle. So let's just 169 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: start with a wide receiver. We got Sammy Watkins, Hollywood Brown, 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: Devin Duvernet, James Prochet, Thyland Wallace, Rossad Bateman, all on 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: the team. Okay, proche to me has done enough. He 172 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: entered on the bubble, but he's he's been the best 173 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: receiver in camp. Yes, he has are in the spot, yeah, 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: he has earned the spot. That right there is six. Okay. 175 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Then you got Myles Boykin, and then you have you know, 176 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: a handful of other guys. Deon Kane, j Len Moore, 177 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: what are you doing? This is my wild card? Oh 178 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: wild card, that's my wild card. Nobody's gonna see this 179 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: one coming. I have Dean Kane making the fifty three 180 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: man roster. Interesting. So Deon Kane is somebody who's been 181 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: slidelined for the past couple of weeks with an issue. 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: He returned to practice today. That was big practice bigge. 183 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: You saw enough from him out there practice today that 184 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: he said, I gotta keep this guy in the pitch. Three. 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I thought he I thought he played well in offseason practices. 186 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Uh and o t as mini camp he looked good. 187 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: At the beginning of training camp, he looked good. I 188 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: think he could be a pretty good special teamer for 189 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: this team. And I think if somebody were to go down, 190 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, if Bateman, you know, being out obviously it 191 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: looks like for some stretch of games at the beginning 192 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: of season, who knows how long he's back, sometime in September. Uh, 193 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Sammy were to go down, I think the Ravens would 194 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: prefer to to turn to Deon Kane at wide receiver. 195 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: In that situation, then they would to Miles Boykin. So 196 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: you have what just cutting boy kind put him on, 197 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: I cutting Baken. I think they'd like to trade him 198 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: if they could. But he's been he's been hurt. He's 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: been hurt since been hurt the second week and he's 200 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: been hurting. And and uh, I think that they know 201 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: what Miles Boykin is when he's been healthy. We've gotten 202 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: a very solid look at him the past two years. 203 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: Whereas Kane has been a guy who came into this 204 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: league with some buzz. I mean, he was a Colts 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: draft pick. They were very high on him, eventually cut 206 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: him he had injuries. Um, I think the Ravens were 207 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: happy to get Deon Kane, and I think they are 208 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: intrigued by his potential. We know what Boyken is, uh, 209 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: and you know if they feel like Deon Kane can 210 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: offer a lot on special teams like Boyken did. All right, 211 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: let's roll the dice and go with him. Right. So 212 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: part of the challenge here from yeah, part of the 213 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: chan on here for me is I don't know exactly 214 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: what the true health status is for a lot of 215 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: these receivers. All right, Actually, let me amend that on 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: boake In because I don't think it's a strange cut. 217 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: I actually think that they're just gonna stash him. It's 218 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: just gonna be a straight move to I R season 219 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: ending I R and he gets basically a red shirt season. Yeah, 220 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: it's not really a stash. I mean, the guy has 221 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: been hurt. And I think, as I keep saying like 222 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: that is to me, one of the great mysteries of 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: the wide receiver conundrum here is you've got like half 224 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: the guys who haven't been practicing, and I just don't 225 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: as we're doing this, like, we don't truly know the 226 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: status of them. So if Waken were to come back 227 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: to practice on Monday, could he be the final receiver? 228 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: I think there's potential for that. But if he's not 229 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: healthy and you have already other issues at the position 230 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: injury wise, you can't. You can't keep a bunch of 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: unhealthy receivers. That's just the reality of it. So I 232 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: think that him landing on I R is is certainly 233 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: a possible. Just cutting a straight third round pick, especially 234 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: with the potential that Boykan has if you can't trade him, 235 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: let's say, is tough one to swallow. And especially you 236 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: have Sammy Watkins on a one year deal. You know, 237 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: could Baken come back next summer and really start to 238 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: ball out and put it together, you know, in his 239 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: fourth season and you say, all right, he's a he's 240 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: far offensive next year as an outside receiver. Potential for 241 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: that too. We haven't seen boy Can in a couple 242 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: of weeks. Hollywood Brown has been out there, Sammy Watkins 243 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: hasn't been out there in the last week. Now, The 244 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: hope the expectation would be that all these guys are 245 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: ready to go at the start of the season. But 246 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: as we're doing this, I just don't truly know the 247 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: health status. So that's that's that's four guys there, and 248 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: Bateman right so has yes, he's gonna be one, and 249 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: I think then the same goes for Duvernet, proche Wallace. 250 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: But depending on this is okay, this is a long 251 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: preamble just to say I struggled with whether to keep 252 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: an extra spot, whether a seventh receiver because I've already got, 253 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: or just keep six. And is that Boykin He's not 254 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: healthy right now either, so what's his status? And do 255 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: you need another injured receiver on the team? Um? Do 256 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: I keep Dion Kane? I'm going with a different dark horse, 257 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: keep j Moore. And and the reason is is that 258 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: he's a healthy receiver. This is a healthy body's health. 259 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: He's a healthy receiver. Like I said, he's a body. 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say he's a healthy receiver when you haven't 261 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: had that all of training camp. So if I had 262 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: the true insight and I knew what the doctors are 263 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: saying about the status of these other guys, maybe I 264 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: would Feelin's on the field too. Man, he's healthy. He's 265 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: been out there for one practice's healthy one practice, one 266 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: practice and maybe no, honestly, maybe that that is maybe 267 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: they're looking at it. They're saying, this guy is he's 268 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: ready to go. It's your logic. You need a healthy receiver. 269 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: But I'm keeping more right now, all right, all right, 270 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: let's go to let's go to tight end because this 271 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: is tough too. Alright, So, um, Andrew's on. Yes, I 272 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: have Josh Oliver on I okay, I think Oliver has 273 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: done enough in camp. It's intriguing player Mark or Nick 274 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: nick Boyle has not practiced yet at all. He's on 275 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: he well is he? Yes? Okay, so this is I 276 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: think this is the I R. Stash and that that 277 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: could well if he's not ready for week one, he 278 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: has to be on the three man roster, or he 279 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: can start the season on the publist. He's on the 280 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: physically unable to perform list right now, that's true, that's true. 281 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: But then he's six games. I don't I don't think 282 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: that they're gonna sideline Nick Boyle for six games. I 283 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: think he's on the fifty three and you have a 284 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: uh I r Elde will return three three weeks. That 285 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: could certainly be the case. I you're propping him, Well, 286 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: I just again, well would you put down No, let 287 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: me just explain that that's that that's the situation. And 288 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: again it goes back to not really knowing the health 289 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: status of these guys. I would put him on and 290 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: then I would tell Eric Thomlinson stick by the phone, 291 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and Eric Thomlinson is probably gonna be on the agreement, 292 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: and then Eric Thomlinson might be on the team on 293 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: September two. Yeah, I don't. I don't have Eric Thomlinson 294 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: on the team either way either way. Okay, interesting, So 295 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: you just think they're gonna roll with Mark Andrews and 296 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver is a two times? You have pat Rickard Yeah? Yeah, 297 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: so I mean you have like pat rickcart can step 298 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: into the Nick Boyle roll and be kind of that block. 299 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: Who's gonna who's gonna take that when they put Nick 300 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Boyle on I R. If they put Nick Boyle on 301 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: I R. You know, they just roll with those three guys. Yeah, 302 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: but who's gonna take that spot? Oh? I gotta don't 303 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: you worry about it. I'm filling my roster. I'm filling 304 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: my roster, okay, all right? Um So now offensive line 305 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley on Villen, Wava on, Zeitler, on Bozeman, on Powers, 306 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: on Phillips, Tyree, Tyree Phillips, on Bank Cleveland, on McCarry. 307 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: I have Patrick McCarry on as well, and that's eight. 308 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: I agree. Now. The tricky one there that I thought 309 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: about is John James. That it goes into the same 310 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: thing if Harball said months ago that they think that 311 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: John James could return from his achilles injury at some 312 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: point late this season November December is what he said. 313 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: So if if you don't put him on the fifty 314 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: three right now, he's done. They can't pop him right. 315 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: He's on the he's on the n f I list 316 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: right now, right. Can you put him on the publist? No, 317 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: he's that that's you can't. Yeah, correct. Um So, if 318 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: he's not on the fifty three, then he ain't playing 319 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: this year. You're sending him to i R. So that's 320 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of a tricky one because to me, the Ravens 321 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: biggest weakness right now is the third offensive tackle spot. 322 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they have a great solution right now 323 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: for who would play tackle. If Ronnie or Villain the 324 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: wave of a word to go down, that guy would 325 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: probably Tyree Phillips. McCarry can step in if he needs to. Uh, 326 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Schofield was a guy who I thought 327 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: about keeping on the roster for that reason. Um So 328 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: I think they would like to have Jowan James in 329 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: their back pocket for potentially late in the season. But 330 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: I just it's a valuable roster spot. It is. I 331 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: couldn't find a way to finagle that and and keep 332 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: that door open. So I think he just gets ird 333 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: for the season, comes back strong next year. And the 334 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: other thing too, is it's not like it's not a 335 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: situation where you know what you have once he's back 336 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: out there. The guy's never played in your system. The 337 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: comparison is through All sucks, right, So Throrell Sucks Tours 338 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: super fair comparison. Well, I'm just saying in terms of 339 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: the injury through All Sucks tours Achilles in April, I 340 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: think it was right before the draft and right first 341 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: the drafts pretty similar timeline exactly, and then he came 342 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: back mid season, missed six games. It was like October. 343 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: It's crazy, it was that was an insane recovery. Obviously 344 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: a lot of differences. The biggest one outside of the 345 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: fact that one is Terrell Suggs is Hall of Famers. 346 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: Let's just see your point. They knew where they had, right, 347 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: you know what you have? Like, you know what he 348 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: brings the team? John James is kind of like this 349 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: added bonus, right, Yeah, you love to have to see 350 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: what he has, But like, do you want to throw 351 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: him out there and hustle him up and all that 352 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: stuff to to see it? Yeah? I think you're you're okay. Yeah, 353 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: And I will say that if there's gonna be someone 354 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: who's on the fifty three man roster who's not currently 355 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: on the team right now, I think that that's gonna 356 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: be on the offensive line, if someone gets cut from 357 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: another team, if there's a trade potential that exists with 358 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: another team. The Ravens have done a lot of old 359 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: line maneuvering late in the game in training camp over 360 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: the years. That's been something that's happened plenty of times. 361 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: So I could see potentially a swing tackle who's not 362 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: in Baltimore right now finding his way to this team. Yeah. 363 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: The one the player that a lot of media folks 364 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: are really having a tough time with is Tristan Cologne 365 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: and whether to keep him on the fifty three is 366 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: the backup center to Bradley Bozeman, And I think Tristan 367 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: is good. I just think that Patrick McCarry, that's really 368 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: the value of Patrick McCarey is he's the super sub. 369 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Like you keep him on the roster. He can back 370 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: up guard, tackle, and obviously center, that's you know where 371 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: he was playing, That's where he was in the playoffs, 372 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: starting center. So to me, I guess I just don't 373 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: see when you have McCarry who can fill a bunch 374 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: of spots, while you keep just a strict strictly a 375 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: backup center in Tristan coloone. And I think Tristan Cologne 376 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: lands on the practice squad definitely. I think he lands 377 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, all right. So that's the entire 378 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: offense there. Uh, note that neither of us have Ben Mason, 379 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: the rookie fifth round pick, making the team. I just 380 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: think he's a practice squad a guy. It's too tough 381 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: at fullback to keep two guys there, and then there's 382 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: already the challenge at tight end with the roster maneuvering 383 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: that could take place there. So we both have him 384 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: off um, but then have some disagreements there. We agree 385 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: on offensive line, but we have some disagreements at running 386 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: back and at wide receiver. All right, so we're gonna 387 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we come back. We'll dive 388 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: into the defense. Sunday is right around the corner. 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All right, So let's go ahead and 399 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: start up front on the defensive line. On the line, 400 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: I questions here, Klais Campbell, Brandon Williams, Derek Wolfe, all on, 401 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: Justin Matta beat k I've got Justin Ellis and Brogerick Washington. Yes, 402 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: that's my sixth defensive lineman here, I'm here, all right? 403 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: That was quick? All right? Outside linebacker there could be 404 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: there's like, there's many question marks here. Either to be honest, well, 405 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: outside linebacker Pronoumina fee on, Justin Houston on Bowser, oh 406 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: way on Dalen Hayes on the question at outside linebacker 407 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: would be Jalen Ferguson. I have him on to Chris 408 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Smith is a veteran player who the Ravens added, who 409 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: had a sack the last game. I think he's been 410 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: a pretty so pretty good. Left him off. I left 411 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: him off too. I went with Jalen Ferguson, I mean wink. 412 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Martindale was pretty effusive in praise of him this week, 413 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: saying that he told the entire defense last week that 414 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson had his two best practices as a Raven. 415 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: It didn't sound like a defensive loves him. He loves 416 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: clearly clearly. It shoul didn't sound like they're unhappy with him. No, Yeah, 417 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he stepped up at the right time. 418 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: He needed to play better. Uh and and he did. 419 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think we're all wondering with Justin 420 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: Houston's rival, like, oh, this could squeeze out Jalen Ferguson. 421 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: But uh, you know he's a physical player. He's getting better. 422 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: You can set the edge. Well, Um, you know the 423 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: Ravens obviously, you know Justin Houston is on a one 424 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: year deal. You know they have some veterans in that 425 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: room who they're gonna look for some of these younger guys. 426 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, now, Jalen Ferguson, if you keep them around 427 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: in year four, he's gonna be in a pretty big 428 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: position for them next year. Um, so I think they'd 429 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: like to keep developing him and see what they have 430 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: in him. All right, So inside linebacker, This one I 431 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: thought was gonna sorry Pernell was the other veteran. I mean, right, 432 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: you have Justin and Parnell on one year deals, So 433 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: Ferguson next year, I think it could be an important player. Yeah, 434 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: so it'side linebacker. I think it was gonna be an 435 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: interesting one. But uh, with the unfortunate season, any knee 436 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: injury to LJ. Ford, I feel like this one kind 437 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: of became more clear. Patrick Queen, Malee Harrison on, Chris 438 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: board On, Kristen Welch, I have him on too. I 439 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: mean you just need you need you, and he's a 440 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: good special teams player exactly he played, He was on 441 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: the team late in the season last year, he tell you, 442 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I think ten games last year. So, uh, you know, 443 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I think he's just eyes. Not like there's been a 444 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: ton of conversation around with Christian Welch. But he's the classic, 445 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: like good special team or good depth player at that position. 446 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: So I've got him. I mean, how many how many 447 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: inside linebackers have made their way via special teams onto 448 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: this team and had a role, Chris Board being one 449 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: of them. You know, there's a bunch of guys, countless examples. 450 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: All right, Now we go to the secondary cornerback. Yes, 451 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: this is where it's a little more challenging. Marcus Peters, 452 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith on Marlin Humphrey. I think he'll make teams. 453 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: You think he's gonna be on uh, Tavon Young on 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: Anthony averett on. All right, now with Jimmy, you know, 455 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: we haven't seen Jimmy return to practice yet from the 456 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: ankle injury. Hopefully he is getting close and and he 457 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: gets back out there. If he if if the ankle 458 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: injury is something that does linger, maybe he could be 459 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: one of those candidates. For the early season. I r spot, 460 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: but I'm not going there yet. Um, based on what 461 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens have said. So um, all right, So the 462 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: other three guys there corner who are competing Nigel Warrior, 463 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: who saw a good bit of action last week's game. 464 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: He was a practice squad guy last year. Seawn Wade, 465 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: roky fifth round pick who had the interception in the 466 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: first game. There are reports of the Ravens are interested 467 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: in trading him. And then Chris Westry, uh, physically talented 468 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: guy six ft four, interesting and triguing player who you got. Wow, 469 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: I think I think he's I think he's earned dude too, 470 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: don't Yes, I do, Yes, I I think he's just 471 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: won the job. He's he's played well in practices. You know, 472 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: he's had some he's flashing games. You know, he's he 473 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: gave up one long completion in Carolina. Um, he had 474 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: the bad penalty in the first game. Is the bad 475 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: penalty in the first game. But he also had a 476 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: tip pass that led to an interception. But um, I 477 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: just think Chris Westry has been in an intriguing player, 478 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: especially as an outside cornerback. Developed him. You know, Jimmy, 479 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: how much longer is Jimmy gonna play? Could queer s 480 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Westry kind of step into that, you know, just to 481 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: be honest, there's just not many too many guys out 482 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: there like Chris Westry. He's kind of a rare breed 483 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: six ft four with that length. His athleticism is speed. 484 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: I like Chris Westry. Yeah, I agree with everything you 485 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: said there and with Wade. You know, the report comes 486 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: out today that the Ravens are interested in trading him. 487 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: He did and he did not see much action at 488 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: all in the second preseason game, which I think everyone said, huh, 489 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: what's up with that? You know, is something going on there? 490 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: You got an interception after you got the game ceiling 491 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: interception in the first game, right, so what's he put 492 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: it on tape? Yeah, what's up with that? You know? 493 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: And I think that then the wheel start turning out, 494 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: the Ravens trying to get him on the practice squad 495 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: or what what you know, what happens um. I would 496 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: believe that there's a trademarker for this guy. I mean 497 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: when the Ravens drafted him in the fifth round, everyone 498 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: was saying, Wow, great value. He was somebody the year before. 499 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: Had he come out and not stayed another season at 500 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State, probably would have been a second round maybe 501 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: even a late first round pick. So as a fifth 502 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: round pick, you know, do you trade him to another 503 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: team and get a fifth back. I think that would 504 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: be the aim. And I think he's I think he's 505 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: had a solid camp. He's been up and down, but 506 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: he's got playmaking ability. And the Ravens are just so 507 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: deep at secondary where another team maybe there's an injury, 508 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: they just feel like, all right, this is a guy 509 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: with some tremendous upside. Let's just go ahead and get him. 510 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Totally agree, all right, So safety Chuck Clark, Shawn Elliott, Yes, 511 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens, Yes, Anthony Levine, Yes, I have Anthony Levine 512 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: off in a handshake agreement. This is my this is 513 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: my Nick Boyle deal. This is the vested veteran. You 514 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: release him, give him the handshake deal. We're bringing you 515 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: back once boil is on the fifty three and then 516 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: we sent him to i R so he can come 517 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: back after three. Uh. But for right now, you're not on. 518 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: You're not making the team. He's the perfect handshak agreement guy. Mhmm, Yeah, 519 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: I know. I think that. And what you mean by 520 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: that is is, if you end up getting released a 521 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: vested vetter, invested veteran, you don't go through waivers, so 522 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: then you have the ability to just resigned with or 523 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: sign with any team that you want exactly, and the 524 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: team would obviously be the Ravens. You have that agreement 525 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: pretty much in place. You have that agreement in place, 526 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: just not signed. So then Gino Stone, I have him on. 527 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: I had Geno Stone on draft pick last year, ends 528 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: up bouncing to Indy, then comes back Houston, sorry Houston, 529 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: bounces to Houston, then comes back, ends up on the 530 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: practice squad, makes the two picks in the first game. 531 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: I think he's been solid, solid special teams player. I 532 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: have him on, but I all study. I also have 533 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Anthony Levine on. Well. So the thing with Gino that 534 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: I'll say before I clown on you for your your 535 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: rustum sticks here um, is that you know, I like 536 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: what I've seen from Brandon Stevens, but he's a developmental 537 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: safety who just started playing it like three months ago, 538 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: you right, I mean he was playing running back, cornerback, 539 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: and now he's transitioned to safety. So if you were 540 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: to have an injury at safety, maybe Brandon Stevens has 541 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: shown enough promised to for you to throw him in there. 542 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: But it makes me sleep a little better at night 543 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: to know that I have a true safety in Gino Stone. 544 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: You know who can who can step into that spot 545 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: if needed, like, and he's played well. I mean obviously 546 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: two interceptions, and I've even thought that when Sean Elliott 547 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: missed the practice earlier in training camp one day, I 548 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: don't know what it was for, um and and Gino 549 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: stood out like he came downhill and popped J. K. 550 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: Dobbins once and it was a good pop. So I 551 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: think Gino has played well enough to earn a spot. 552 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I think he beats out our Darius Washington, the talented 553 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent. Um, I just think he beat 554 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: him out. And you tried to get our day us 555 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: on your practice quad. Yeah, well Geno Stone too. If 556 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: you remember when the Ravens drafted him, Daniel Jeremiah was 557 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: glowing in his phrase of him talking about how he 558 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: was shocked that he was still available. He had to 559 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: seal the draft. Yeah, he said, it's like a second 560 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: third round grade on him and he ends up going 561 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: in the sixth round. Yeah, so he was That kind 562 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: of gives you an indication of what Daniel Jeremiah thought 563 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: of Geno Stones. Well, and people talk about, well, if 564 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: you cut our Darius Washington here was a priority free agent, 565 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens reportedly, you know he was created 566 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: by Pro Football Focus. Is the top undrafted rookie free 567 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: agent out there, So you might lose him if you 568 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: cut him. Well yeah, but you know Gino Stone was 569 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: a draft pick, right, and so like the Ravens clearly 570 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: thought enough to invest in him, Like, if you cut him, 571 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: then you might lose a guy you drafted, not you know, 572 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, I think for the second straight year, 573 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't have an undrafted rookie on the roster, a 574 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: rookie free a rookie free agent, right. So the difference 575 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: is that we have You have Deon Kane on, I 576 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: have Jennison was the seventh round pick seventh time. Okay, 577 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: you have Deon Kane on. I have Jalen Moore on. 578 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: So that's the difference there. Um. The other one is 579 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: a running back. You have Justice Hill, I have Tyson Williams, 580 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: you have Anthony Levine off. What's the other what's the 581 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: other difference for us? Here. You've got leavin off, I've 582 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: got them on. Do you have too many players? Do 583 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: have five? Count them up? No? I don't think I 584 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: count them up. I don't. There's there is another difference. 585 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Let's go. I want to hear you verbally count them 586 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: all up? Right now? All right? One? And if you 587 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: did it wrong, you owe me ten. What were you at? 588 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. Do you even have enough muscle 589 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: to give me ten push ups? You don't. I don't 590 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: even think you can get your ted you're gonna do. 591 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna do ten of those fake push ups on 592 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: your knees. You do the fakis? Yeah, said, come on 593 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: you to the listeners. No, I'm not giving you any 594 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm not giving me anything. You can't because 595 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: you can't even do it. I gotta well, now, I 596 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: gotta think about where my last cuts coming. I gotta 597 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: think about I gotta think about where my last cut 598 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: is coming. Do I don't make the cut. Don't make 599 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: the cut. You're the turk right now. You gotta walk 600 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: in after you told him he made the time, this guy, 601 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: you made the team. And now you gotta walk in 602 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: and say sorry, man, I miscounted this is why you're 603 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: not Eric da Costa. This is why him Eric da 604 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Costa this right, Come on, Turk, didn't didn't you? I 605 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: think this happened to you the last time we did this. 606 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: You were just on the flip side of it because 607 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have have Jalen Ferguson on the team with 608 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: the third round draft pack that it was. That's where 609 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: it was. I'm going to change the conversation here. Yeah, 610 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: who are you cutting? Mm hmm. And it's funny because 611 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to cut someone who I just justified 612 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: keeping on the team, didn't well, I mean easier will 613 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: be Levine and the handshake, right, I mean, what did 614 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: you do with Boyle? Well? I kept him on. You 615 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: just kept him on, right, So you can just pull 616 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: my mood. I know, I give you the easy out. 617 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: I know that's that's the debate there. But I actually 618 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of feel like I feel like Levin's just gonna 619 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: be on the team. But yeah, I think that the 620 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: handshakes gonna be on the team either way. Yeah. Actually, sorry, 621 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: don't let me talk. You go ahead and cut somebody. 622 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Oh cutting Tyler hotly? Sorry, Tyler. No, I'm debating the 623 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: the wide receiver. You know you're gonna just cut Jalen Moore. 624 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: I might just cut Jaylen war You know, I think 625 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are gonna be plenty healthy wife sheever, 626 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're doing. He's just cutting or sorry, 627 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: sorry Jalen, you thought you made it with Gart Just 628 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: see that's miscount the miscount. Oh wow, that was great. 629 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: This is my favorite episode ever. If you would give 630 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: me temp push ups would know you don't get that. 631 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: You don't get that up ups. You don't even have 632 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: the ads for that. Yeah, so you guys can email 633 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: us the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Um 634 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: and you know if I miss any, I'm gonna blame 635 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: it on different results from the preseason game. You know 636 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: that's gonna alters. Yeah. You know you were expecting them 637 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: to boost the rosters of fifty four. Yeah, the last 638 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: preseas game. You're expecting an NFL memo all rosters can 639 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: expand the fifty four players. Well, you never know, there's 640 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: been so many roster changes over the past couple of years, 641 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: especially last guy. Right, this is for Delta. Delta is 642 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: a heavier strain. It's easier to get I expected the 643 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: fifty fourth. Yes, guys again. Anyway, thanks for listening and 644 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back with you next week.