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Speaker 1: the Brian Campbell, one half of your Morning Combat duo,

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Speaker 1: checking in during a big boxing fight week, Vasily Lomachenko

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Speaker 1: and Tayo Femo Lopez Junior this Saturday, all four lightweight

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you five reasons to love this fight.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know much about it, to consider this

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Speaker 1: And then after that we got a chat with the

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Speaker 1: why he's going to knock out Vasili Lomachenko, and why

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Speaker 1: they just don't get along where that origin is a

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Speaker 1: enjoy it all right? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Hello there, morning combat coming at you. Little bonus time

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Speaker 1: video in the sport of boxing. I am Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: one half of your MK duo, and as my typical

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Speaker 1: love Jay the producer, all that, all them good stuff

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Speaker 1: right there. Why am I coming at you today? Because

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Speaker 1: it's a big fight week. Okay, we know we got

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Speaker 1: you should really care about. Look, I'm not naive to

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. We got the MK Boxing Hardcore spinoff show

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Speaker 1: with myself and Ray Bartholomew. But the crowd, the fan

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Speaker 1: or less the best fight you can make in boxing

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Speaker 1: thirty five Lomachanko Lopez, It's good. It's real good in fact,

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Speaker 1: Number one. Everything about this fight Loma Chankle Lopez seems

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Speaker 1: for real. Well, Machenko's only thirty two, but keep in

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Speaker 1: mind he employs a style. Now, look, Mannipack has a freak.

424
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Speaker 1: I don't know how he's still this fast and explosive,

425
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Speaker 1: But most guys don't carry that into their thirties. Deep

426
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Speaker 1: into their thirties, most guys in the smaller weight classes

427
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Speaker 1: peter out earlier when they rely on speed and athleticism.

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Speaker 1: That's what Lomachenko does. There are some hipsters of the

429
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Speaker 1: hardcore boxing game that are gonna tell you, look at

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Speaker 1: his recent lightweight fights. He's kind of getting old a

431
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Speaker 1: little bit before our eyes. Now, I don't subscribe to that.

432
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: I think he's just in a heavier division and he

433
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Speaker 1: fought a great fighter in Lenaris who dropped him right.

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Speaker 1: Other guys had moments against him. But maybe part of

435
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Speaker 1: that is true. Maybe he's not the same, and maybe

436
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Speaker 1: Lopez isn't as great as his one punch KOs against

437
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Speaker 1: a rock hard mighty Mason Maynard may suggest. But these

438
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Speaker 1: partial truths are gonna come together and make an interesting

439
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Speaker 1: soup on Saturday night, and it could end with Lopez

440
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: shocking us and knocking him out and winning it and

441
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Speaker 1: really starting a new era in a lot of ways

442
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Speaker 1: in this sport potentially. And that's a loaded statement, but

443
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Speaker 1: I do believe he is. He is that look, Lopez

444
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: has a makeup to him that's unnatural, certainly for his age.

445
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: But you know, read the Mark Krigel ESPN dot Com

446
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Speaker 1: backstory Baby Mama Drama stories and you'll see, like Lopez

447
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: didn't have a normal upbringing in life, and his ability

448
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: to handle stress, expectations, his dad's trash talk and live

449
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: up to it has been incredible up to this point.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put it past him, but he can't

451
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Speaker 1: win this fight on Saturday. I really don't know who's

452
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Speaker 1: gonna win or what it looks like. And that's as

453
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Speaker 1: great as it gets in boxing. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: this is not a pay per view Even though it's

455
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Speaker 1: a pay per view level fight, they're both daring to

456
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Speaker 1: be great. Four titles are kind of at stake boxing.

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Speaker 1: You did us good here on this night. Shout out

458
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Speaker 1: to Grandpa there, Bob Aaron for making it happen. Shout

459
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: out to both fighters for wanting it. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: this MK army that we are building. Hopefully even the

461
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Speaker 1: MMA fans will check this out this weekend. A true

462
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Speaker 1: sort of potential crossovery type fight that's going to produce

463
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Speaker 1: somebody with maybe the biggest win of their career, whether

464
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Speaker 1: it's Lomachenko or Lopez, very much looking forward to it. Look,

465
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Speaker 1: here's the deal you already know in case taking over

466
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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Nobody does it. Nobody does it like this, Nobody,

467
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Speaker 1: nobody does this crossover collaboration with this type of formula

468
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Speaker 1: of elite level boxing, breakdowns, elite level mixed martial arts.

469
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Speaker 1: Who else can balance the fun and games with the

470
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Speaker 1: legitimate analysis. Who else has Luke Thomas getting on you

471
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Speaker 1: about your Covid thoughts, who else as your boy BC

472
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Speaker 1: bringing you back to the nineties. So not only do

473
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Speaker 1: we have this great show with CBS and Showtime put

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Speaker 1: their heads together, We're in like this rocket ship's about

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Speaker 1: to take off and we want to be the ones

476
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Speaker 1: filling it with fuel. Okay, we want to be the ones,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, we want to be the label that pays man.

478
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Speaker 1: So they said, why don't we do this three days

479
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Speaker 1: a week live? And then we said, hey, why don't

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Speaker 1: we also, you know, drop you a little recap after

481
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Speaker 1: the big fights. I don't know if you guys remember

482
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Speaker 1: after the last UFC pay per view, Lou hit you

483
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Speaker 1: up with the lappy Tizer on Sunday that did big ratings.

484
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Speaker 1: Then we come back Monday morning with the big one,

485
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Speaker 1: the real deal in your face. But then again, that

486
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Speaker 1: wasn't enough to completely satiate what we know your appetite

487
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Speaker 1: and hunger could be, should be, would be, will be

488
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Speaker 1: for MK. So in addition to Monday, Wednesday, Friday Live,

489
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Speaker 1: in addition to the Saturday post fight sort of big

490
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Speaker 1: Sunday reactions, we have so much killer in between stuff

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Speaker 1: coming your way Tuesday Day, Thursday. All week we had

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Speaker 1: interviews this week with Lomachenko, interviews with Lopez. On the

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Speaker 1: boxing side, we got the Boxing Hardcore Show with Ray

494
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Speaker 1: Bartholomew and myself kind of going deep on some of

495
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Speaker 1: these topics it doesn't get touched in the regular MK.

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Speaker 1: We got Luke Thomas's Morning Combat Dissected. Show me another

497
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Speaker 1: person outside of Dan Hardy who does great work on

498
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Speaker 1: those UFC shows that can get you this deep into

499
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Speaker 1: the technique and go behind the music there like it's

500
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Speaker 1: a VH one Motley Crue there showing you the ins

501
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: and outs. And then you got your Luke Thomas Q

502
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Speaker 1: and a live chat, you know, And that's just the beginning, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Luke and I have some plans to tentatively get together

504
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Speaker 1: again in the next month a little spoiler alert there,

505
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Speaker 1: and provide some fresh and fun topic content. I know

506
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Speaker 1: you guys like the Room Service Diaries. We threw it out.

507
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Speaker 1: We threw out the wall. We have a can of paint.

508
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Speaker 1: We put fluids in the paint. We stirred the paint

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Speaker 1: can up. We threw it at the wall, and we

510
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Speaker 1: looked at each other and said, Luke, I hope wouldn't

511
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Speaker 1: get fired because I think that's I think that's something

512
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Speaker 1: right there. And you guys, you know, you looked at

513
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Speaker 1: the RP. He said, is that dog? Is that a dog?

514
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Speaker 1: Right now? You said, you said, this is brilliant And

515
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Speaker 1: that's really what this show is all about. All right?

516
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Speaker 1: Are we are? Is our art? You know? I don't know,

517
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Speaker 1: but you know, thank you for patronizing us. Thank you

518
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Speaker 1: for being a patron Okay, get your merch at show

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Speaker 1: dot store dot com for morning Combat. Look. Also, this

520
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Speaker 1: is like just the beginning. This is like comfy dad clothes.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You got the sweatshirt. My wife loves the hoodie, you

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Speaker 1: got the hat, the tumbler, all that stuff. What we

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Speaker 1: have for two point Oh, I've seen a little mock up.

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Speaker 1: Is pretty pretty damn slick stuff coming out there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the deal here. Enjoy the fight this Saturday. All

527
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Speaker 1: that good stuff. Thank you, Thank you for being along

528
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Speaker 1: with us on this journey. Okay, we're going to the

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Speaker 1: moon and back and we need as many people as

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Speaker 1: we can. Nobody's show does it like this. Okay, it's

531
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Speaker 1: it's MK all day, nearly every day, and it's your

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Speaker 1: boy BC signing out with the only two words that

533
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Speaker 1: can truly end a show. We out all right with

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Speaker 1: our five reasons to love this great fight behind us.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we get into the interview time. It's it's

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Speaker 1: Teyo fiomo right now. Okay, it's a takeover. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen right now. Let's throw to it. Yes, enjoy, you

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Speaker 1: better believe. On Morning Combat, the week of the biggest

539
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Speaker 1: fight of the boxing calendar year, we're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: star of the show. The takeover is here. Tayo Femo

541
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Speaker 1: Lopez Junior. I'm beating twenty three, your IBF lightweight champion,

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Speaker 1: just I don't know, four or five sleeps away from

543
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Speaker 1: Vassili Lomachenko in Las Vegas. Tayo fired the heck up.

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Speaker 1: That's me talking what's going on inside of you, just

545
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Speaker 1: out from the biggest fight of your career.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say that was like the best intro for

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Speaker 3: for someone to say. For me, I gotta say, thank you,

548
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: thank you. Campbell. Hey, I gotta say, man, I'm hyped,

549
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: you know, fight week, and that's just what it comes to. Man,

550
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: the takeover and man, I'm excited. I can't wait for this. Man.

551
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Speaker 3: We are what are we? Team minus? Five days away?

552
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: So you know it's the time, man, it's the time

553
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: of every boxing fan. It's the time for all sports

554
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: to just tune in Octoba seventeen live on ESPN. You

555
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: don't want to.

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Speaker 1: Pay per view level fight could easily be we're getting

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Speaker 1: it on regular ESPN. Now, look, I know you don't

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00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: love Vassili Lomachenko, but there's reports that he took less

559
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Speaker 1: money to make this fight happen, and you certainly have

560
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Speaker 1: to shout out the folks at ESPN for putting it

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Speaker 1: on regular cable. Do you give that man the respect

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Speaker 1: for bending at the financial table to get you in there? What?

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Speaker 1: That's what I hear.

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Speaker 2: That's what I hear.

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Speaker 3: Bro all right, what you hear? That's called rumor. Rumors,

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Speaker 3: my friend, that is rumors. No, that was all false information.

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Speaker 3: Nothing was ever taken out of his purse or out

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Speaker 3: of his fight check financially. Nothing. I'm not the type

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Speaker 3: of man to take that. I won't take that. My

570
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: eagle's too big when it comes to stuff like that.

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: And just to allow someone like loma Chenko, who I

572
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: personally don't not like, to be that announced and now

573
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 3: I won't take it. So the true story to it,

574
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: going back and forth with Bob am ESPN and with

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Speaker 3: my manager, David mcwater. We were discussing back and forth,

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Speaker 3: and ESPN, you know, came in and they gave us

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Speaker 3: you know what we what we thought was all right,

578
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Speaker 3: you know, not the best, but just all right, you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened. Man. So for everyone else thinking

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00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: about Loma giving me a you know, but the thing

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Speaker 3: that makes me laugh is that they promote the shit

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Speaker 3: out of that, but they can't promote the shit out

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Speaker 3: of this fight. We need to promote the shit out

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Speaker 3: of the fight.

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Speaker 2: So let's get well, let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: So look, Tao, here's why us hardcorees, even the casuals

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Speaker 1: love this. It's certainly a blockbuster fight, four titles at

588
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: stake in the lightweight division, but it's like a grudge

589
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: match at the same time, and you know, we get

590
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Speaker 1: fired up for it's like catnip to us. The hate

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Speaker 1: seems to be real. Can you give us the origin?

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Speaker 1: I'm and I know the story, but I'm not sure

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00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: everybody else does. Your dad kind of almost accosted Vasili

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Speaker 1: Loma Chenkos he was on the way to a different fight,

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Speaker 1: walking to the ring.

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Speaker 2: What happened here.

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Speaker 3: So it was back in twenty eighteen where it got

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Speaker 3: real controversial, kind of I would have to say, like

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Speaker 3: kind of like it just got real intense. I wasn't

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Speaker 3: there during the time. I was getting ready for I

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Speaker 3: was doing my weight cup, so I was working out,

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Speaker 3: but people were blowing me up, calling me yo. Your

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Speaker 3: father just like went off on Loma and I was laughing.

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Speaker 3: I'm laughing. I'm like, I wonder why, though. You know,

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Speaker 3: my father's the type man. I guess that's that New

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Speaker 3: York in him. If he got something to say, he's

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Speaker 3: just gonna say, you know, straight up, and he's not

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Speaker 3: gonna hold anything back to it. One thing that's one

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Speaker 3: of my traits that I love about him, despite how

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Speaker 3: people may feel about it, he just doesn't care. And

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Speaker 3: so that night, I think it was, he went up

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Speaker 3: to a Loma, gave his hand, shook his hand, you know,

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Speaker 3: and I guess Loma gave him like a dirty look

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Speaker 3: and kind of was like, why are you trying to

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Speaker 3: give me a hand type of feeling, and my father

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Speaker 3: just he was like man, and he just started curzying.

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Speaker 3: He was like, my son is gonna knock you out.

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Speaker 3: My son is going to kill you and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: take over this show. And that was the night when

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Speaker 3: I thought of Mason Nordon and uh, you know I

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Speaker 3: did take over the show.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who has not seen that one punch ko in

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Speaker 1: the first round there of rock hard Mighty Mason Maynard,

624
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Speaker 1: please check that out. Here's what I love about your dad,

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Speaker 1: who's also your trainer, Tale Femo Senior there his hutspot.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that you weren't like an established champion

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Speaker 1: at that point. You're still a rising guy that was

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Speaker 1: trying to make a name for himself, had been unproven.

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Speaker 1: Your dad was kind of talking all that stuff and

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Speaker 1: sort of putting a bounty over your head.

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Speaker 2: You got a lot to live up to it. You

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Speaker 2: have each step of the way.

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Speaker 1: But you know the narratives entering this fight that even

634
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Speaker 1: though you now have the IBFL you beat Richard Kobe,

635
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: You're you're climbing. You're only fifteen fights into your career,

636
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: you just turn twenty three. How do you respond to

637
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: those handicapping this fight saying too much too soon? Man,

638
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: You're going up against the power for pound king right now.

639
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm built different, man, I'm just I'm one of those

640
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: that are just different. I step up to the plate

641
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: and it always it's always in my favor. You know.

642
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: That just comes with a lot of hard work, a

643
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: lot of sacrifices that I've made throughout my career eighteen

644
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: years in, you know, and and still counting. You know.

645
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: So that comes with all that, man, Just the mentality part,

646
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: and just the fact that I walk by faith, man,

647
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, and I live by it. So everything that

648
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: I do is honestly through God, and He always tears

649
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: me in the right way. You know. My time is

650
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: now and that's what I believe. And come October seventeenth,

651
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 3: you know, we're more than ready, man, more than ready.

652
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: I'm excited, probably more excited than all you fans, honestly, man.

653
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: And just to be back in the in the in

654
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: the boxing world, to be back in my world and

655
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 3: to feel at home again definitely is going to be

656
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: one of my things that I missed the most.

657
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're more excited than me. This

658
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: is what I call a shadow box fight. If you

659
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: stand up just voluntarily throwing punches. When you think about

660
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: this fight, you know it's a big one. You know,

661
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: it's for real and that's certainly what we have here.

662
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: When you look at this fight from an ex's and

663
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: O standpoint, this is what I think. What's cool about

664
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: it is Romachenko's a wizard. We all know that great footwork, angles,

665
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: all that, but he typically does that against standard boxer,

666
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: punch or orthodox type fighters. You are anything but standard

667
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: or orthodox. You're athletic, you come from different angles. What

668
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: is this fight gonna look like because I can't see

669
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: it being a simple jab in cover sort of back

670
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: and forth between again traditional boxers.

671
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: Uh man, that's the thing, man, I think that's what

672
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: everybody's waiting for, just to see what what We've all

673
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: seen what what Loma does, but no one has really

674
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: seen what I can do. You know, everybody just sees

675
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: me as a whether a one punch man or whatnot.

676
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: You know, someone that will may come forward and you know,

677
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: any any of them, any of these hands right here,

678
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: will just put you to sleep, so you know. But

679
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: there's more to that. There's more to two within that,

680
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: you know, and I can't wait to showcase that. You know.

681
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a great fight, entertaining fight, very technical,

682
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: I believe, and at the same time, but it's just also,

683
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: it's bad blood. So you're definitely gonna see lights. You're

684
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: gonna see lights and fire man come that night, you're

685
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: definitely gonna see fireworks. And it's just gonna be one

686
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: of those fights where it is fight of the year

687
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: without even being us in the ring yet. So I

688
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: think everybody needs to definitely tune in. This is this

689
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: isn't just promoting it. This is the truth, and this

690
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: is how we are and this is how I feel,

691
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: you know, and then afterwards, you know, we see what happens.

692
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, uh, lemmon Chenko, like I mentioned,

693
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: been really at the top of the pofs.

694
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: Really you guys, really, man, you guys really, Uh, I

695
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: gotta give it to y'all. Though, I gotta give it

696
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 3: to y'all. Hey, it is what for what? Just tune

697
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: in October seventeen. That's for a while. Okay, Well, look.

698
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is that, you know, Luma

699
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: chak Go is great. Let's give him his respect. He

700
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: does things that up there.

701
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take I won't take

702
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: anything from the man. Trust me, I won't take anything

703
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: away from the man. He's made his accomplishments. He's done

704
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: what he has done. You definitely got to take your

705
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: hat off to the man for achieving those goals at

706
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: such an early time, you know, with only fifteen fights,

707
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: just as much as I have. But for him, he

708
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: had a faster route due to the fact that he

709
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: was a two time Olympic gold medalist. They gave him

710
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: that the opportunity, you know, in showcase and the amateurs,

711
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: why not you know, so obviously for myself, I had

712
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 3: to work my way up. But the fact that I

713
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: did it within these fifteen fights and now we're facing

714
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: each other, you know it won't There's not a better

715
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: time than this.

716
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: Well, that's really what I was going to get into saying, Look,

717
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: he's great. His track record speaks for itself. But he

718
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: went up to one thirty five a few years back

719
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: to chase big fights, and you could argue that given

720
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: his size, given his age, a thirty two, still in

721
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: his prime. But but you know, crossing over to a

722
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: certain degree, this is a dangerous division for him. We

723
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: saw him get dropped by Jorge Lnaris in a great

724
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: fight with one punch. We saw Pedraza have moments against him,

725
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: the whole idea is okay, it's his experience against your youth.

726
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: But where does your power fit into this equation? Do

727
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: you believe after seeing him during his lightweight run, that

728
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to handle your punching power.

729
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: In this flight? We got to wait and see. I

730
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: give him. I give every fighter things that I want

731
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: them to feel. You know. There's times where with Takome,

732
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: when I threw some check hooks at him, it wasn't

733
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: a hard check hook. It was just a nice touch up,

734
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: just to see how he reacts to it, you know,

735
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: And I followed up with it, you know, just to

736
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 3: see the reactions to a lot of things. So we'll

737
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: have to wait and see. I got to see what

738
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: he can and can't handle, you know, and then we'll

739
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: go off with that. I don't think that, you know.

740
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to estimate no, no fighter and no man,

741
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: we don't know, you know, And but I will find

742
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: out and I will know come Otoba seventeen, when we're

743
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: in that ring, you know. So I don't want to

744
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: estimate what he can and can't handle. But I'm just

745
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: going to do everything that I can to to come

746
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: out victorious and make that outcome. I don't. I'm a

747
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: strong fighter, of course know and I have power in

748
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: both hands. We all know that. As you see what

749
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: he can and can't handle.

750
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: We got a lot of MMA fans watching the Morning

751
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: Combat show here on CBS and show Time, and.

752
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: I've made the comparison before.

753
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: If you're looking at Lopezlomachenko, it's almost like when Con

754
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: McGregor was rising up and went in there against Josie

755
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: Aldo for the federaleight title. You're in that position where

756
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: if you win, you're gonna kick down the door of

757
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: this sport, and you know, with the audience you will

758
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: probably get in the ESPN, have a chance to really

759
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: become an overnight sensation and a star beyond boxing.

760
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: How much is that on your mind?

761
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: You don't want to put the cart before the horse,

762
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: but you believe in yourself. What does Sunday look like?

763
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: It's got to be a day and night scenario if

764
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: you win this.

765
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: I take every day day by day and I live

766
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: by that. You know, so one day at a time,

767
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: one fight at a time, we see what happens afterwards,

768
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. The hard work, you know,

769
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: will show and it will pay off come October seventeenth.

770
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: You know, my whole objective is to do what I

771
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: know best and go out there and entertain the fans.

772
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: That's what it comes back to, and it is always

773
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: always that teal female. That's what you're gonna get from me,

774
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: is the love and admiration to all the fans out there.

775
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: And you guys wouldn't be getting fights like this or

776
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: the backflips or the celebrations if it wasn't for you guys.

777
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: You guys definitely motivate me in every way. And for Sunday, man,

778
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: we see what happens. We definitely see what happens. You know,

779
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: I'll probably be knocked out sleeping, you know, going to

780
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: bed and uh waking up and be like, damn, this

781
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: really did happen. Huh.

782
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Indeed, just twenty three years old. I don't know how

783
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: you hold it together.

784
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: At twenty three years old, I was probably in a

785
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: basement doing some things. You shouldn't be rocking out. You're

786
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: on top of the world about to face basically the

787
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: pounds for pound king. At this point, you said that

788
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: you're different, but you have a joggle a lot of

789
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: craziness in a young career. I don't say this for sensationalism.

790
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: You've had family drama that it sometimes almost seem to

791
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: inject in it and infect some of your fights.

792
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: Where are we at right now in terms of a.

793
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: Peaceful, normal training camp building into the biggest part of

794
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: your career.

795
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: I think for everybody that in bad sports or just

796
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: in in sports in general, I mean, there ain't there's

797
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: never really that peaceful, calm, relaxation moments, you know, especially

798
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: when we get close to a fight time or close

799
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 3: to competition. You know, in general, I think there's always

800
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: something going on, you know what I mean. But it's

801
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: also just about the fact that you got to tune

802
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: those things out at a certain period of time. And

803
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: I've learned that throughout my years, and I learned that

804
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: through through certain fights now, you know, And that's just

805
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: comes with the experience that comes with with time, you know.

806
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: So time is key. Time is definitely something that I

807
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 3: take advantage of, but also I understand and I live

808
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 3: by so when it comes to it, you know, mentally

809
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm there. I'm good. I'm ready. Physically I'm more than ready.

810
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: And emotionally, man, we're there. I'm very happy. Man. There's

811
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: nothing going on at these moments and thankfully you know,

812
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: and if there is, you guys won't see it.

813
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep that, Let's keep that stuff on the

814
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: inside there. Let's focus on the fight. I want to

815
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: close ask you this. Your dad's been such a supporter,

816
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: your trainer, your cheerleader.

817
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: We mentioned he'll get you in some ish because he

818
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: believes in you that much.

819
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: Outside of the strategy of how you're gonna be Woma Chenko,

820
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: what is he telling you in these final days? What

821
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: are those big those words of advice or motivation.

822
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: To get you ready for this?

823
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows what I'm gonna be doing, you know,

824
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: he knows, and he seeing the best in me, and

825
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: he seemed the worst of me. You know, that's just

826
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: throughout our eighteen years in this and just him seeing everything.

827
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: He knows when I'm ready and he's you know, he says,

828
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: this is the best I've seen you. So just to

829
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: hear that from my own father and my coach who

830
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: has seen that, you know, just the fact that I

831
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: feel good on top of that, and for him to

832
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: tell me that, I man, it's gonna be shoot. I

833
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: don't even I get goosebumps even talking about it. We

834
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: don't know what type. I don't. I don't know who's

835
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: really gonna who's gonna handle that, especially the way I feel, man,

836
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: I got I use all this, man, So I'm very

837
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: thankful though, don't get me wrong. I'm very thankful and

838
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: grateful for these opportunities, and especially during these tough times

839
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: with the pandemic. At least we were able to at

840
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: least get two hundred and fifty people and fans, and

841
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: we're usually I think we are doing the first responders,

842
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: you know, at least to get back to them, and

843
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: that's the most important part, you know, and to get

844
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: back to the fans. It's free cable TV live on ESPN.

845
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: Can't wait Saturday Night, the biggest showdown of your young career,

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Speaker 1: the Lightweight summ At Vassili Lomachenko and this man Teo

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Speaker 1: Femo Lopez Junior. Best of luck, Tao. It's been a

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Speaker 1: long time coming. Can't wait for the fireworks.

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Speaker 3: This is just the beginning, though, Brian is just the beginning.