WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour | Recapping Week 7 Win vs. Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>It is Victory Monday, October twenty First, this is Jaguars

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't your show just yet. And that wasn't very nice,

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<v Speaker 2>But we do have a Victory Monday Happy Hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Kinnanni Stevens and for JP Shadrick, he is traveling back

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<v Speaker 2>from the United Kingdoms, so you guys get me for

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<v Speaker 2>one more and I feel very honored. I've had both

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<v Speaker 2>Victory Happy Hour Mondays so far this season, one on

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<v Speaker 2>one trip to London, Jaguars obviously beating the Patriots thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two sixteen, the highest scoring game we've seen from the

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars so far this season. So it should be a

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<v Speaker 2>fun episode coming up for you. We always keep it

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<v Speaker 2>real and of course we'll have fanatic fan questions for

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<v Speaker 2>you coming up as well. But more than anything, Jags

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<v Speaker 2>needed that win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Needed to win a game.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't matter where Obviously we love coming over here,

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<v Speaker 4>but it didn't matter where. We just needed to feel

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<v Speaker 4>what winning feels like again.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Hall of Famer Tony Boselli as we mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>in that play, and Pete Prisco going to join us

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Yeah, they needed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I jumped a gun a little bit there.

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<v Speaker 2>So Okay, it's been a long it's been a long hours.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a long week. Good week. Always good to

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<v Speaker 3>go over to London, the annual trip, and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot longer because they lost the first game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It did make it, didn't it like last week's seem

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<v Speaker 3>d I mean, last year felt like it just was

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<v Speaker 3>so quick and great because we won both games. This year,

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<v Speaker 3>probably there was a downer after that Bears game. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about that last week. We're going to ignore that

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<v Speaker 3>this week because we got a victory. Did not start

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<v Speaker 3>very well. I was nervous after the first quarter, down

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<v Speaker 3>ten to nothing. We had five offensive plays, they had nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>had eight first downs, we had one. But give them credit.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things this team had been criticized for

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<v Speaker 3>was not being able to overcome adversity. Trevor even called

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<v Speaker 3>them fragile, and they did it, and I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was led by the offense. The offense got it going

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<v Speaker 3>broad energy. There was no energy at being in that game, Kai,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously the Jags didn't have any excuse because we've

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<v Speaker 2>been there all week. The Patriots obviously, with the flight

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, sometimes teams can start a little slow. But Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you look on TV?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think they looked lifeless, Like Tony said, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it just didn't look good in the beginning. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing you were looking for, if things weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going well, would they respond? And they did because the

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<v Speaker 1>quit talk was out there, the fragile talk was out there,

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<v Speaker 1>the culture talk was out there, and so they could

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<v Speaker 1>have quit.

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<v Speaker 5>They could have, you know, curled up.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fetal position and said the season's done and

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<v Speaker 1>started booking their trip to to Bermuda or wherever they go.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't. And that's a good sign. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign the way they did it. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good things that came out of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean everything's fixed, That doesn't mean they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make a playoff push. It means none of that. It

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<v Speaker 1>means they beat a bad football team. But they did

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<v Speaker 1>it after they fell behind ten nothing, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign for that team. No, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the first quarter was very concerning and more

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<v Speaker 3>not even offensively. Let me had one drive, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>and they got a first down. They stalled out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that happens. But they only have five plays because

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<v Speaker 3>your defense, again couldn't get off the field against the

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<v Speaker 3>worst offense. Let's just be clear. The Patriots are the

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<v Speaker 3>worst offense in the NFL. They're terrible. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with Pete giving them all the credit because

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<v Speaker 3>we've all seen teams in the past that do curl

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<v Speaker 3>up in the fetal position. They did not. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go back to that offense. I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 3>try never Lawrence, who's played really good football peat in

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<v Speaker 3>the last three games. And I thought offensively, they ran

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, Tank was great, Trevor was great, offensive line protected.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's not a very good defense. It's not a

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic defense by any means, but okay, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 3>to the NFL. They get paid and the offense, man,

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<v Speaker 3>they brought the energy, and I'll tell you, as a

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<v Speaker 3>player and being on teams a lot of times that

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<v Speaker 3>somebody has to step up, somebody has to make a play,

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<v Speaker 3>or a unit does if the other unit's struggling. And

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<v Speaker 3>I thought both offensively and special teams Parker Washington touchdown

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<v Speaker 3>which I couldn't believe he fielded that punt when he did,

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<v Speaker 3>but credit to him, he made it happen. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the defense started coming along and started, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing the defense did the entire day peat

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<v Speaker 3>is they stopped the run, making them one dimensional. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think Drake may is gonna be a really good

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback in this league. But they don't have the weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have the offensive line, they don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>talent to make to be one dimensional, they had to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to run the ball. The Jaguars took that away,

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<v Speaker 3>as they should, and you felt like, really end of

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<v Speaker 3>second quarter, beginning of third that the game was over,

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<v Speaker 3>like the Patriots were not going to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, you mentioned the quarterback, and and he's

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<v Speaker 1>taken a lot of criticism over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>last season, you know, half the last season and this season,

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<v Speaker 1>but are you right, the last couple of weeks have

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<v Speaker 1>been really good. And so what do they do to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of open things up a little bit, Tony? What

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<v Speaker 1>they doos the.

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<v Speaker 5>Middle of the field?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when you take shots down the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field, you hit those shots. And and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best throws he made was the crosser to Kirk Brady.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Thomas made the big throw in the big

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<v Speaker 1>play in the middle of the field for the big play.

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<v Speaker 1>But those open things up. The threat of that opens

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<v Speaker 1>everything else up. It opens the run game up, It

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<v Speaker 1>opens those button million, fourteen thousand bubble screens they throw up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it was so good to

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<v Speaker 1>see him do that the game, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got them going a little bit. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of set the tempo for the rest of the day

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<v Speaker 1>when they could be physical.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, let's be real about it. You throw the score,

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<v Speaker 5>you run the win.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to run the ball when

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<v Speaker 1>you need to run the ball, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get chunk plays in the passing game.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think they did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that Patriots aren't very good on defense, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that they did it was very encouraging.

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<v Speaker 3>But Pete, I'm gonna like and we have had this

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<v Speaker 3>debate a thousand times of the show. You talk about

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<v Speaker 3>throw the ball to open it up, stretch things out,

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<v Speaker 3>then run it. I like this fact those pound the

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<v Speaker 3>rock and open up the play action pass take those

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<v Speaker 3>deep shots because if you notice, both those deep shots

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<v Speaker 3>were off play action pass.

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<v Speaker 5>But they hadn't run it very well before they had.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they were I mean the Kirk one I agree

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<v Speaker 3>with they had not run the ball very well because

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<v Speaker 3>it was early. That was the second That was only

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<v Speaker 3>the second drive they had the ball, second time they

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<v Speaker 3>had the ball in the game. I thought after that

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<v Speaker 3>they did run the ball well. I thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>physical upfront.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was when did Thomas play come the four

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<v Speaker 1>third series?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, how many rushing yards did they have?

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<v Speaker 1>At that point.

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<v Speaker 3>They had pounded tank a few times. Pete where they

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<v Speaker 3>started pounding it, he was getting he was having success.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I'm not arguing your point is fair

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<v Speaker 3>there because they did take shots early in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about it. Now we say early in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, it was the second quarter because they weren't

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<v Speaker 3>on the field the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>That has to change.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, by the way, I don't want to be negative

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<v Speaker 3>in this first segment because we did win. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>tell you what. The next four games are against four

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<v Speaker 3>playoff teams, four teams with winning records, four teams with quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>four teams that are good. And if you start games

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<v Speaker 3>like that against those teams. Defensively, it's gonna be hard

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<v Speaker 3>to come back, it's gonna be very difficult. With that said,

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<v Speaker 3>offensively they did, and to peach credit and to Pete's

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<v Speaker 3>point point of view, they did throw it down the

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<v Speaker 3>field early, in the middle of the field and took

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<v Speaker 3>shots and give him credit, Trevor was very accurate, did

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<v Speaker 3>a great job, and then they got the run game going.

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<v Speaker 3>At one point, Pete, I know you were probably just

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<v Speaker 3>having like an allergic reaction. They were called seventeen straight

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<v Speaker 3>run plays.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because you had the lead. I had no problem

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I had no problem with it. It was working,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the lead. I had no problem whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so excited at the booth. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the greatest thing I've ever seen. And I text,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I text, pressed, that's the game. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>that's an offensive lines dream right there. Seventeenth straight play

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<v Speaker 3>run plays like get physical, get after it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>thought the offensive line did a great job. Kunos to

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<v Speaker 3>Walker Little coming off the bench, I thought he I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to watch the tape Pete because I did,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't download it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he was the best offensive lineman on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>He was physical. Though I watched him, I had my

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<v Speaker 3>eye on him once he came in, I thought, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have any pass rushers over there, so forget

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<v Speaker 3>about the pass walking. I didn't. I didn't expect that

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<v Speaker 3>front to get much pressure on Trevor. However, they have

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<v Speaker 3>some big, long individuals who are physical at times. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought Walker Little brought a physicality to the run game,

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<v Speaker 3>and they ran right behind him very effectively. It'll be

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting to see what happens now Cam had the concussion. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he's in the protocol, so we'll see if he's back

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<v Speaker 3>by Green Bay this week. But let's say he's healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you have a real decision because the physicality

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<v Speaker 3>and the way Walker Little played was very impressive to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and he got to the second level.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he came off his guy a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different times Tony on the tape and got to the

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<v Speaker 1>second level and keyed those runs.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he did a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Look when I put on the tape this morning, I

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<v Speaker 1>went in with the open mind. How did he play?

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<v Speaker 1>He was the best offensive lineman on the field. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. And to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was close. And so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good it's a good problem because I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to him.

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<v Speaker 5>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to go to him. He finishes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's tougher. He was pretty, like you said, not a

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<v Speaker 1>great pass protection over there. He looks so much more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable over there than he does on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just who he should be playing. Should

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<v Speaker 1>be playing left tackle, and that's his position. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as the rest of the line, and we'd go through

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<v Speaker 1>them a little bit. I thought Morse had his worst game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch the tape, but live I would, I

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<v Speaker 3>would agree with you. I watched. I'm like, huh, I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't seen that from Mitch. Mitch has played really well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he gave up a couple of pressures. I

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<v Speaker 3>found him on the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't walk in the run game. Wasn't great in

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<v Speaker 5>the run game.

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<v Speaker 3>He was he on the ground more than usual because

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<v Speaker 3>I thought watching problems.

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<v Speaker 1>He had problems with that nose tackle when he was

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<v Speaker 1>on his nose. He had real problems with him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that was an issue. You know, the third and one,

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth and one. Give me a break.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, we're not let's talk about that in

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<v Speaker 3>the next hour. Things he did not like, Let's stay

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<v Speaker 3>positive this.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I mean, look, I got my tape, my tape

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<v Speaker 1>book right here, full of plenty of negatives, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'll find them.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll just say right now, because Pete's going to

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<v Speaker 3>go there next segment about the fourth and one, when

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<v Speaker 3>we had an opportunity to make it a three possession

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<v Speaker 3>game late in the fourth or mid midway through the fourth,

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<v Speaker 3>I say, eight minutes, eight minutes, twenty six seconds. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven eleven fifty or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, whatever it was, I'm going to say on the

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<v Speaker 3>record right now, I said, go for it. I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wrong to do it. I was emotional. I

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<v Speaker 3>was being an offensive lineman because they were running the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd run it sixteen straight times. They were dominating, they

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<v Speaker 3>were physical, and I said, you know what, give the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line a bone like show that you trust them

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<v Speaker 3>in retrospect. As soon it was over because Logman called

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<v Speaker 3>me out on the air. He was right. I knew

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<v Speaker 3>Pete was going to kill me today. I knew Pete

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<v Speaker 3>was going to kill me on Twitter. He's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>They should have kicked it. But the offensive line in

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<v Speaker 3>me wanted to go for it. I wanted to throw

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<v Speaker 3>the big guys at bone because I thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>physical all day. I like the press, Taylor trusted them.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the Doug and tusted them. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>see them go for it. That's the wrong call. I

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<v Speaker 3>was wrong. I don't say that very often. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like a meeting when I'm wrong. Pete, I was wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>you were right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were wrong. Was wrong, you were wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>Doug was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They were wrong. It makes no sense. He does eighteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>takes the two scores out of the makes it three scores.

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<v Speaker 5>The game's over.

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<v Speaker 3>But he let me tell you what. Pete is wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, I forget about attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>Attitude goes out to wind you right.

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<v Speaker 5>Stop telling him he's wrong too. I'm not talking just

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<v Speaker 5>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to Doug Peterson, what's the rationale behind it?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you?

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<v Speaker 1>You?

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<v Speaker 5>What you're thinking there?

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<v Speaker 3>Just to make myself feel good as an offensive lineman?

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<v Speaker 5>You not you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's capable of not doing it. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like if there's ever a maybe on a fourth down,

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely know that he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>That's who he is. Was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me so good on third short that decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to fourth to Jort, I mean you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get anything on third short.

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<v Speaker 5>You should have said, no, we're going to go kick

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<v Speaker 5>the field goal. Let's calm it said.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, you made your point. I'm with you where

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<v Speaker 3>you Peene is wrong, dead wrong. But Patriots were right

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<v Speaker 3>going for two when they did, because you at that

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<v Speaker 3>point you know what you need to do. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, we were very fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have any problem with that. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>any problem with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you called it out on Twitter that you

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<v Speaker 3>said you disagreed. Okay, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't quite understand going for two when Jacksonville did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I did just because they I mean, the odds saved

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<v Speaker 3>from the one one go for it. I mean that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all okay.

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<v Speaker 1>If the odds say from the one, you go for it,

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<v Speaker 1>they threw a pass, what's the difference throwing the pass.

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<v Speaker 5>From the two to the one.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say I liked the play call. I just said.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We are fortunate that turf was a little slippery because

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<v Speaker 3>they they had a return route which is fake in

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<v Speaker 3>go out, and the Jaguars defender I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>Monterrey Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>It was was it fell down.

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<v Speaker 3>Dead to rights. The receiver slipped. That is, it would

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<v Speaker 3>have been a one possession game if the receiver doesn't slip.

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<v Speaker 1>And it would have been one possession game at large

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<v Speaker 1>part because he didn't kick the damn field goal.

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<v Speaker 3>That too, and that's what I was dreading it. I

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<v Speaker 3>was so happy when he fell because I, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>but I was like, my idiotic decision to say go

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<v Speaker 3>for it was so wrong and it was about to

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<v Speaker 3>become even more wrong if they get the two point conversion.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall, like, kudos that team, because let me say something,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in London. You had a bad loss against a

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<v Speaker 3>rookie quarterback the week before with Chicago, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of noise. That's a long week after a loss.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys are away from their families, coaches away from their families.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's negative around them. You know, one in five everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>saying it's over, calling for you know, people to be fired.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was really a tough situation away from home.

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<v Speaker 3>And I give those guys a ton of credit. I

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<v Speaker 3>give the whole organization on the football side a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of credit because they buckled down and they showed up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots are the worst team in the NFL, or

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're fine, Caroline or the Patriots. They're both like,

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<v Speaker 3>they should play each other to see wo's the worst team.

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<v Speaker 3>It will be a zero three zero game. We'll see

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<v Speaker 3>who wins. Doesn't matter. But that's a bad football team

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<v Speaker 3>we'd beat. I don't care. It's still the NFL. You

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<v Speaker 3>can lose to those teams. And they showed up. They

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<v Speaker 3>were ready. I didn't like how they came out of

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<v Speaker 3>the locker room, but when it mattered, they got their

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<v Speaker 3>stuff together on the sideline, they found a way to

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<v Speaker 3>dig deep and they played really good football from the

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<v Speaker 3>second quarter on, and I give them credit for that.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw some fight, which was great.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great.

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<v Speaker 6>It really meant a lie and I if me personally

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<v Speaker 6>I could take some of that responsibility because that first

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<v Speaker 6>touchdown that was on me and obviously just coming into

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<v Speaker 6>the finishing the game and doing everything that I know I.

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<v Speaker 1>Could do, which is execute every player.

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<v Speaker 6>And so that's what I feel like we did going

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<v Speaker 6>on for the rest of the game and everything was clearing.

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<v Speaker 2>talking post game after the Jaguars got a win in London.

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<v Speaker 2>There only win in London because they lost the first

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<v Speaker 2>game to the Bears and Tony. We talked a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about this off the top. The defense did not

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<v Speaker 2>look great coming out of the gun, including that touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>run against trym Michael Hasey, former running back for the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that play exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>You mean the little swing pass to so they it

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<v Speaker 3>looked like they're in the zone blitz and trying to

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<v Speaker 3>overload offensive left defensive right dropping Josh heinz Allen the coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it. On third down, you know they're passing.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you putting your why are you putting your

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<v Speaker 3>best pass rusher in coverage? I don't understand that or.

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Heinzellen coverage pretty much ever really.

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<v Speaker 3>Like like I would never drop him, but I get

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<v Speaker 3>some blitzers. You want to overload and make them think, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>great whatever. We don't blitz very much. We blitzed more

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<v Speaker 3>like one possession then we have all year. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>still bad offensive tackles third and long, like let Josh

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<v Speaker 3>go like get like you gotta rush the passer. And

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<v Speaker 3>they dropped him the coverage. I thought, look, he looked

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<v Speaker 3>late dropping.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well you know what happened, Tony. He was on

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<v Speaker 1>on the right side of the defensive formation and dropped

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<v Speaker 1>out into the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on the left side. He was playing left

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<v Speaker 3>end that play and was supposed to drop into the flat.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was dropped. Wasn't very good and then

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<v Speaker 3>there was so much space.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's on the other side.

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<v Speaker 5>He came across the It's that's the weird thing about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he did. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost one positive. If we could show the play,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see it. It's a bad coverage. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad it's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>For I'd love to pull it up if we have it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we have it or not. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll trust you because I didn't watch the tape again,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he'd dropped from because he played it was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting this game. Josh Heinzeuen played some more left end

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<v Speaker 3>than he had been. They kind of flipped him and

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<v Speaker 3>uh Trayvon around and then at the in the fourth

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<v Speaker 3>quarter when they're doing a lot of pass rushing, he

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<v Speaker 3>was playing three technique and they had Graziano at the

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<v Speaker 3>end and they're trying to get pushed inside using Joshu

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<v Speaker 3>the three technique, which I'm not against. I think I'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to see Trayvon inside bet more. I think it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be really interesting to have Trayvon and Josh on the

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<v Speaker 3>same side at times, but I like to mix it up,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get create things.

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<v Speaker 1>But they finally listened to me on how to align

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<v Speaker 1>their defense though they're listening in Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was Pete. I'm pretty sure it was the

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<v Speaker 3>least amount of end that Eric Armstead played.

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<v Speaker 1>And had game and he got his pressures from inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Only that shocking you you say where Darnell Savage was playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right safety because Antonio Johnson got benched.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is where he should be playing.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I say that all throughout the early part of this

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<v Speaker 1>show and in training camp, and I said that all along.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not a nickel. He's a safety. He should have

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<v Speaker 5>been playing safety all along.

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<v Speaker 3>He played a lot of nickel in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know, but he's not a nickel. He's a safety.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he is. He came into the league as

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<v Speaker 1>a safety. He's not a nickel. He's not a twitchy guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a safety. And and I personally think if it

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<v Speaker 1>was my team, this is how I would play it.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be one of the safeties, Cisco would be the

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<v Speaker 1>other one, and I think I'd have my corners being

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<v Speaker 1>Monteric Brown and Campbell, and I played Jerryus Jones at

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<v Speaker 1>the nickel.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Jerry's played nickel. Yesterday in Montera, they rotated all

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<v Speaker 3>three guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Rotate everybody hockey team.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we never forget three plays in they took the

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<v Speaker 1>starting divisive line out three plays in.

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<v Speaker 3>I got nothing to say because I don't get it either.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking, does anybody ever asked that guy why

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<v Speaker 1>he does that? Hey, Ryan, what the hell do you

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<v Speaker 1>rotate players like their hockey team for?

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<v Speaker 2>What does he say so that they're What was he

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say? I think he said two weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>is because that has played them, so now they're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm a big believer play your best players

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<v Speaker 3>as much as you can. I agree, that's my theory.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was right.

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<v Speaker 1>The alignments are right, and and and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Monterak deserves to be on the field. He has earned

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<v Speaker 1>the right to be on that field, and just like

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ventre Miller has earned the right, particularly in

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<v Speaker 1>the run game, he's earned the right to be on

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<v Speaker 1>that field. But I think the alignment best alignments, and

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<v Speaker 1>one I just gave him because Jones looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>nickel corner.

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<v Speaker 5>Savage never was. He's a safety.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like what they did in the dime. You

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<v Speaker 3>can put Antonio Johnson down that linebacker level, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Which suits his skill set, right. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just an Armstead was so much more comfortable rushing

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<v Speaker 1>from the from the three technique.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder what Pete is that gouldn't be because his

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<v Speaker 3>whole career he rushed as a three technique and sub.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, they did a lot, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a few different things though, Like they put Abdullah.

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<v Speaker 5>On the inside a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Well they also put josh heinz Allen on the inside

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<v Speaker 3>and put up Due outside and put uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the game, Pete, he was rushing

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<v Speaker 3>three technique in a three point stance, and he had

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<v Speaker 3>Graziano outside. Sometimes he had a duel outside. Sometimes they

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<v Speaker 3>changed it up. I still think I thought I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to see Trayvon get some rushes at three technique

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<v Speaker 3>me too, just too.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was talk of this, and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>And I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it, but I'll tell you what when

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<v Speaker 1>when he and Arms sta are in side by side

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<v Speaker 1>over there rushing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's two big bodies coming after.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. Now, And the funny thing I saw the

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<v Speaker 3>win rate for the Jaguars. Armstead was one, or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it was for the league this weekend win rate Armstead

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<v Speaker 3>won or pressure rate one of the two. I got

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four percent and Josh Allen Heinz Allen was third.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, uh, some.

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<v Speaker 2>On has PFF has pass rush win win rate, Eric

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<v Speaker 2>Arms has thirty six percent, joshes An thirty one points.

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<v Speaker 3>Were they one and three in the league?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, pass rush snaps.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of them. I mean, Josh heines Allen's getting a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Peat he's not getting sacks, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then trade Bon's not.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, they don't get it. Usually don't get any

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on the inside.

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<v Speaker 3>And trade Bon's not getting a lot of like as

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<v Speaker 3>far as PFF, a lot of pressure. But he's getting

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<v Speaker 3>the sacks.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he gets there he gets yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, but the sack, if you look at the sack

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<v Speaker 3>he got, there was pressure inside so the quarterback couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>step up. Drake Bay dropped, he went backwards right, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and and by the way. I want to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Hamilton had his best game since he's been back. Hamilton, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was physical in the run game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still not pushing the pocket in the middle of

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that defense. But he was physical in the run game

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<v Speaker 1>and had his best game since he had that back issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I figured because they averaged the they averaged about a

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<v Speaker 3>yard per carry. They could not run the ball at all.

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<v Speaker 3>The Patriots. I thought the front seven did a great

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<v Speaker 3>job against the run, and that's what you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do against a rookie quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>For'sive line.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they're terrible, Pepe they start. That was their seventh

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<v Speaker 3>starting combination.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the year. Michael Jordan might be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst guards I've ever seen in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a heck of a basketball player though indeed, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but he can't play guard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's you know. I used to give out a

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<v Speaker 1>Spinning Top Award each week to the worst offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, and then at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year he wanted. I think he wanted two or three

0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>times when he was in Carolina, so he was the

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<v Speaker 1>winner of the entire year.

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<v Speaker 5>He won the award. He was awful. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But but look credit to that front seven. They were

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<v Speaker 1>were more physical and Hamilton was better. Here's the question

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of them. Why did it take

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<v Speaker 1>so long to figure out the things that you needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do to play that defense when it was so

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>obvious staring in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, with timeout, go ahead. You said, A what's B?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh?

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<v Speaker 3>You said, why did it take so long to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to play that defense? A?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the B?

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<v Speaker 3>You're I assume you're gonna give us a B option?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? The B is the rotation? What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So here's here's my question, Pete. They did what they

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<v Speaker 3>had to do. They won a game they're supposed to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it they played better or is it the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>are that bad upfront? I mean, Jeff and I watch

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<v Speaker 3>the tape, We're like, this might be the worst offense

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>line we've seen all year. It is, And I think

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<v Speaker 3>the real test is the next four and starting with

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay because green Bay is a good football team,

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<v Speaker 3>well coached. I'm not saying they're the best team in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFC or anything, but they're a good football team.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>They're a good team and they got good offensive line, and.

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 3>They had a good offensive line. They have a good quarterback,

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 3>they have weapons outside, they have a good running back.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a pretty good defense too. I haven't studied

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<v Speaker 3>them yet. I mean they they took it to Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>They rushed, they harassed c. J. Stroud the whole game,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a close game. But they and they,

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<v Speaker 3>but they got the victory with the last minute field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Our old guy, no comment.

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<v Speaker 5>But by the way, let me ask you this too.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple other things we didn't talk about because Roy

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<v Speaker 1>robertson Harris, you know that whole thing happened. Yea after

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<v Speaker 1>the show last week. We were onto something when he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing in the preseason to.

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<v Speaker 5>There was something going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew it. Here's the other part of that. Why

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<v Speaker 1>did the second round pick is a healthy scratch?

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the real thing, Pete. It's a great question because

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<v Speaker 3>the rookie second rounder, and you expect your second rounder

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<v Speaker 3>to contribute. That it's going to be a starter, but

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 3>you expect him to contribute. He is a second second

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<v Speaker 3>time this year, a healthy scratch, but healthy scratch. The

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<v Speaker 3>week you got rid of one of your core rotational

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<v Speaker 3>players and Roy Robinson, Harris and you brought up the

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<v Speaker 3>sixth round or whatever Jefferson was for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>There's questions there like something's going on. They are unhappy. Yes,

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 3>you you don't healthy scratch your second rounder, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>you got rid of depth at that position during the week.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 5>I just I would say that something happened on the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not gonna say he was.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't Maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe maybe it's late for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's it, Pete. I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 5>Would be the better part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That means the other part of it means he's not

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<v Speaker 1>very good and he has talent.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was because of disciplinary reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think it is? Because he just they

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's very good. Well, there's also some talk

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that the coach and the general manager different on that

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>one too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that either.

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that one too.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're gonna think it over during the break

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>coming up, we will talk a little bit more about

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the defense. Also, big day from Tank again once again

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 2>stepping up with Traves, ytn out with an injury.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't get too many opportunities in this National Football League,

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 7>so when you get one, you have to take full

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 7>advantage of them and do it at your best ability.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 7>And I felt like as we kept running the ball

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 7>that they got, the Patriots would get tired, and we

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 7>just got to keep going. And we've got to keep going,

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 7>to keep going, to keep going. And I just took

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 7>advantage though opportunities because on film to show like fourth quarter, come,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 7>third quarter, come those guys will start arm tackling and

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 7>there starting loafing.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 5>So we just did what we had to do when

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 5>those ops game.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you looking for the MVP of the truck game,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.240
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0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>loaded with the impressive capability and game changing tech that

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>you can dominate, workplay and everything in between. You can

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>test drive it at your local Ford dealer. Proud partner

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the Jacksonville Jaguars. Back here on Happy Hour victory Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>Tank bigsby another big day, taking full advantage of that opportunity.

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Travesy Dn, suffering a hamstring injury, wasn't able to go,

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>but Tank certainly was. Tony I'm pretty good day, I

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 2>know as an offensive lineman and you you were excited

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>for the run.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 3>So I loved it. I love how they I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Press did a great job calling the game.

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I think he got a feel for it, and he

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>saw his offensive line playing well. He saw both backs.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I thought the Artist Johnson ran the ball very well

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 3>in that game, and so the combination of Tank and

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>the Artist and an offensive line, I really like what

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Press did. They had some good play action pass. Trevor

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 3>was on you know, spot on during the day, so

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 3>it was outstanding and I thought it was interesting. I

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>saw a Pro Football Talk and I don't know if

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 3>someone asked, but you know, Doug Peterson said that Travis

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 3>etn is still their number one back and he's the

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 3>head coach. That's his choice. I've said it, so I'm

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 3>not changing my tune because I've said this since the

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 3>beginning of the season. I said in the preseason, and

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of heat for it, at least

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 3>here locally. I think I think Bigsby's your best running back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying he's doing and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think maybe I know why Doug is saying it the

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>way he is. What I believe is going to happen

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>is it's going to be more of a split and

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>they'll use Etn in the past game a little bit

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>more and kind of more to his skill set. But

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it's it's going to turn into a

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>combo thing. I believe at some point.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Or or it could turn into trading trade deadline.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying if you're the Dallas

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>cow if you're the Dallas Cowboys and you're supposed to

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 3>have this team that's going to be a playoff team

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>and you don't have a back that's worthy of that, why.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you go make a move to go get a

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 5>guy like Etn?

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>What would you what would it take to get him?

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Pete? Well, his contract is remember they picked up the

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>fifty year option, so he's got some cash on that contract.

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not cheap. So four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe I don't know. I'd be like a third,

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I don't know. If you're I don't know

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna get a third.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>But but again, you got to look at that if

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you're if you're Jacksonville, you have to look at that.

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 5>And definitely make if something.

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're going to lose to the Packers.

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But if they did lose to the Packers, then you

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>got to start looking at all your trade options as well.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that's something you got to consider.

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<v Speaker 3>I would agree, but I would agree with that by

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 3>the way, I would agree with one. I would listen

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>right now too, if someone offered to me be a

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 3>third for sure for Travis. Yeah, but not just him.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about depending on what happens this week. I

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 3>think you do start listening even more.

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 5>Like camp Robinson, what do you do or walk little

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 5>one of them?

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I would listen, no, no, bat doubt about it, because

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 3>both of both the free agents at the end of

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 3>the year.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Kirk, I would listen, yep.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 5>I think all those guys are in play for potential.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Now it all depends and hopefully we win this week,

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 3>and now you're okay, let's wait in another week. Let's

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 3>see where this thing goes. And they're more than capable

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 3>of winning this week if they play good football. But

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll go back to it. I said it before the

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.239
<v Speaker 3>game with the Patriots. I think Tank Bigsby, you need

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 3>to give him twenty plus carries. I think he's he

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 3>gets better as the game goes on. I think he's physical,

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 3>and I would give Tank Bigsby twenty plus carries a game.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would do.

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Yep, So okay, give him twenty you're gonna give Etn

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>six or seven? Then? Basically sure? And dearnest ran pretty well?

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Ye ran great.

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's another.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Reason why you trade Etn. So let me ask you

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>this when as it relates to the running back position,

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>do you ping them for wasting a first round pick

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>on Etn? Do you give him credit for taking Bigsby

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>when they had him in the in the what round?

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Did he come there? A third?

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 3>Third?

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you give it? So you get it's probably

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>a combination of both of them.

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 3>I want to be consistent because I think Travis CTN

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 3>is a good player. But even when I thought he

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>was the best back on this team and thought he

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 3>was a very good player, I would never I would

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 3>not have drafted him in the first round. Not because

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 3>it's Travis Etn. There was no back I would have

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>drafted in the first round.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not worth it.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Because I think you can get good backs like Tank

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Span Tink Bigsby late in the second, third, and fourth round. Right,

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 3>that's right, that's my I'm not saying I'm right, but

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>that's my.

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 5>Third No, you're right.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, and I'm never going to admit that

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>out loud, but you're right.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you don't draft backs in the first round. You

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>find him anywhere there, you pull them off the shelf.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I always like to say, boom, there's another one, and

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>so you kill them for taking him in the first round,

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>but you give him credit for finding the guy when

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he did find him in the third round. So I

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's a combination of too one quick note. I

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>went back and watched the play. I was right, Tony.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>He lined up at right defensive end. The back was

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>on the lined up offset on the right side of

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the offensive formation. So for him to even get over

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>there and try and cover him, he has to clear

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>run across the formation to get over there. It's a terrible,

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>terrible coverage and I don't know how they put him

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>in that situation.

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, okay, that makes me feel better because

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I thought he just took a bad drop because.

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>He went all the way across the field and Trayvon

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of chirped up and said it was on him.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>So I'm wondering I order. He was supposed to drop

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 2>when he saw the running back was on his side

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>and he did it. I wonder it looked like something

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>went wrong.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if both of them are supposed to drop.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the other part of that is Cisco made

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it lazy, terrible play on that play. And you know,

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>for a guy who calls people call people out for

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>quitting last week, he looked like he was loafing and

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>then realized that the tackle wasn't going to be made

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and had to try and get over there, and the

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>guy just made a move on him. Look, you're gonna

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>call people out for quitting, you better go full all

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>out all the time. And he didn't on that play.

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you guys saw it at the game.

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I did not see it obviously. I did not see

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 3>it live because I got I didn't see the Josh

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah, or I forgot being uh in London. I

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 3>tried to download the tape but it had not been

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.959
<v Speaker 3>uploaded to the cloud last night and then I flew

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 3>home today.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>No, Tony was out on the town. He wasn't watching films.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>No, that's not true, guy. I was in my room

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 3>trying to download it to my iPad. It was no, No,

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I was not drinking tea. I did not go to

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 3>bed early. I didn't say that, but.

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>God when I said that about Cisco, so you noticed

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it too.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel the safety tackling in general, it's

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 2>been good, and for me that's been hard. Part of

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>the hardest part obviously, you know, the cornerbacks are gonna

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.439
<v Speaker 2>beat that's fine. The safeties they don't look like they're

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>giving any effort, and Cisco look kind of slow compared

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to what we've seen him do before. It's funny, and

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I know people have said that about Josh kind of

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>bulking up too. They don't have that speed burst that

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>we saw at times last year, and I don't know

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 2>if that's purposeful or it.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Does not look like a fast defense.

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Which is what they kind of Obviously they've had issues.

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 2>The secondaries had issues both years, but at least last

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>year you could force turnovers. For the first half of

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 2>the season, they haven't been able to do that. So

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>now it's just like these long processions.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Dropped interception and now he made a very nice breakup

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 3>on the Polk play.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, right before was that right before Parker's kick?

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was a very nice place.

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>That's the tackling look you're gonna have. They have tackled poorly,

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have some mistackles. But his effort wasn't great.

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 3>And I can't I can't comment on his effort because

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to watch the tape. But that's disappointing.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 3>And I trust you because you do watch the tape.

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 3>And obviously KAI saw it live. I did not notice

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 3>that live. I was in shock that somehow Josh Allen

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 3>was I thought it was so late dropping. I'm like,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>oh my goodness. Anyway, that's ridiculous. That makes no sense

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>to me. It makes more sense now Treyvon said he

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 3>made a mistake, so obviously there was a mix up.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the things that is plagued this

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 3>defense of guys getting lined up correctly and doing their

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 3>job correctly. So that's concerning because again, the Patriots are

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 3>a bad offense. So I just want to say this,

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>they're the worst offense in the NFL. So I am

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 3>really happy we won that game. But boyl boy, you

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 3>gotta clean that stuff up because here comes Green Bay,

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>who is not the worst offense in the NFL. I

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know where they're ranked. I haven't watched any tape,

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 3>but that is you gotta clean that stuff up. It

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 3>goes back to and we talked about this in the pregame,

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>UH in the broadcast, and I said it like the

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 3>key of the game, like before you can start, before

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 3>you can start worrying about winning, like stop beating yourself.

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Like the first thing you do is you don't beat yourself.

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to win in the NFL. It's impossible if

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.359
<v Speaker 3>you're beating yourself. And so that's got to get cleaned up.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>UH.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Coming in down the stretch. You have a tough stretch

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 3>of four games starting with Green Bay here and they

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>don't and you know, I believe they're off today because

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 3>of the travel. I believe they're in tomorrow. And you

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 3>got to have really good work on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 3>getting ready for this Sunday game. It's a big game

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 3>because if you get to three and five, it's different,

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 3>it's a different feeling.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, you start feeling a little better about yourself

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and maybe gain some momentum. You're right, I mean a

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Luakan they say might be back this week.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he's it's possible. I haven't heard anything.

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>They have made They haven't made him available. I mean,

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 3>they haven't opened the window they yet.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>He traveled with the team and obviously he was working,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>rehabbing and whatnot.

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 5>But I think he's back. He starts starts with him Miller.

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 3>You can't take Ventral Miller off the field. He's your

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 3>best linebacker.

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 5>I think he has to stay on the field.

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious if they will that.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 5>That is why that's interesting, is because you're admitting a mistake.

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Then forget about the mistake, Tony.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 5>We're in the same ballpark. You're preaching to the choir.

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you know how you know how this

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>league works.

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know good teams do, Pete. They put

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 3>the best players in the field. They put the guys

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 3>will give you the best chance of winning. And right now,

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 3>your best linebacker is Ventro Miller. I don't care where

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 3>he was drafted. I don't care where everyone else is drafted.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what picks you trained to pick other people.

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what you're paying other people. Vent Trel

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Miller is your best linebacker.

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And and so what do you do with Lloyd? Let

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>him rotate? In with the hockey players.

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Put him at Sam. I think he's a Sam. Anyways,

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 3>he's a strong he's a strong line linebacker. That's what

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 3>he is.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>And sit Mouma down.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 5>That's what you do.

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 3>That would started on My starting lineup would be Ventre

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 3>uh Foyer, figure out who's Mike, Who's well, I don't

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 3>care whatever the other one does. Whatever each one does better.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Foyer can play both. He's smart, he's I'm not saying

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 3>the other guys are dombe, but Foyer is one of

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 3>the smartest players in the league. And then put put

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 3>put Devin Lloyd at Sam. That's what he played. He

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 3>was on the line linebacker, and call like put him there.

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 3>He's long, he's physical.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 5>I think he plays and he's terrible in coverage.

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 3>He plays the run. He plays the run well.

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 5>He hadn't kids plays to run really well.

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But he's terrible in coverage.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 3>And he did a good job in the run against

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 3>the Patriots.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>That means he's only on the field.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 3>What Okay, put your best players out there, or at

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 3>least the guy's playing the.

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Best right now. The choir is exactly what I would do.

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 3>It's not that hard, peat, it's not Let's not make

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 3>this more complicated. Let's not get into who got draft.

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And where and we traded.

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm paying this guy this and stop. Who

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 3>cares that? Will?

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 5>I guarantee you there's somebody in that building that will

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 5>do that.

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, the only thing that matters. So we talk

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 3>like analytics are a big deal, though, aren't they. There's

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:20.239
<v Speaker 3>more analytics out there, and they're valuable and they tell

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 3>you a lot and you learn a lot from analytics.

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you the most important analytics in the NFL.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 3>It's called wins and losses because they tell you who

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 3>you are, and that determines people's jobs at the end

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 3>of the year, and that determines if you get a

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 3>chance to play for the Lombardi Trophy. All that matters.

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>You can you can talk about analytics until you're blue

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 3>in the face. And I think they're important. I think

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 3>we should take advantage of it and understand it and

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 3>make decisions and learn from it and all that. I

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 3>love it. I love what But let me tell you

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 3>the most important and the only one that mattered, and

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>it should influence every desci decision you make in an organization,

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 3>from how you travel, how you practice, who you sign,

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 3>what you do, what you eat, where you sleep, what

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 3>your everything is. Wins and losses, Whatever gives you the

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 3>best chance of winning. That's who you put on the field,

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 3>that nothing else else. I don't care when you drafted them,

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't care how much money you paid them, if

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 3>you made a mistake, whatever, it's over. Who gives you

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 3>the best chance of winning. That's it.

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Wins and losses. And you know what else wins and

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>losses does? It tells you you're getting flexed or flexed

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<v Speaker 1>out of Sunday Night football.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 2>We're all getting our Sunday evening back.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, weeks ago, that's I.

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Told you guys, we're gonna flexed. Yeah, it's been back

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 3>to back years we've been flexing Sunday Night. As someone

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>who loves this order, I believe we got flex last.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Year too play Sunday Night.

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>The Ravens played, They played the ravensday.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we got.

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Flexed later before we had completely faun apart.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Now we were.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 3>We played.

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Actually the Sunday Night game is the number one seed

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in the that's.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, we're talking about it. Buy at that point, Well,

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>do we have to.

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Talk this year? I don't like that. It's not a

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 3>good look. You don't want to be flexed. That means

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 3>you're not a good team.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Never.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're heading into break. We'll talk a little

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.959
<v Speaker 2>bit of more, got some coaching advice for both Tony

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 2>and Pete, and we'll talk a little bit more about

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that fourth down. Doug Peterson loves to go for it

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<v Speaker 3>To go back to the decision.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I was riding the momentum of what we

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.439
<v Speaker 4>were doing leading up to that point. Our offensive line

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 4>was was really you know, taking control of the game

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 4>at that point, and I felt like just putting it

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 4>in their hands one more time, getting the first down

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 4>right there and potentially you know, ice the game at

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 4>that point. But they went down, scored, we get the

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 4>ball back, and you still got to play football, and.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>That's this is just a message.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 4>You still got to continue to play, and we were

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:54.600
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0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 2>was riding the momentum. Tony Beselli said he would ride

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the momentum. This is this is amidst all the run

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 2>plays back to back to back to back.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Yep, I admitted I was wrong.

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>And they didn't convert. I mean, if they convert, we

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>never talked about it.

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 3>But that's why Pete would have talked about it. Still,

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 3>that's his credit. He would have He's consistent.

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that an analytics thing or is that just Doug

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:23.959
<v Speaker 2>being Doug.

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>That's just Doug being Doug. Because the analytics will tell

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you to kick the field goal.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 3>You always go up three possessions.

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if it's in the if it's in the

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 5>first half or whatever.

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but in that situation, you have to go up

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>three because are they even gonna Are they even going

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to get three possessions the rest of the game?

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think he made a major mistake there,

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and and and I think if he pinned him down

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>on it, he would admit he made a mistake.

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 3>I did. I made a mistake, not that I had

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 3>anything to do with them, but I didn go for it.

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why you should never have a damn headset

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>on your head.

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:01.280
<v Speaker 3>No, that's not true, Pete. There's probably other reasons I shouldn't,

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 3>but that's not the one of them.

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not the key one.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 3>There's more important ones than that.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, somebody needs to talk him down sometimes, that's

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 5>that's part of the problem.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>He needs a guy, said that, Tony. I've said that

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 1>for years. They need to have an analytics guy standing

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>right next to him saying, don't do it, do not

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>do it, don't do it, Doug.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 3>You know who makes you know who else in the

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 3>NFL makes calls like that sometimes?

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Who's this?

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Probably the guy coaching the best team in the NFL,

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Dan Campbell.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 5>And here's the thing about Dan Campbell doing it.

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to do it anymore.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 3>No he doesn't. But that's who.

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Well he didn't, then they didn't go to the super

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Bowl too.

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, right, he cost him a chance to go

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl because of.

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 3>His I'm not saying right or wrong, but I'm just saying,

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 3>that's another guy who does it. So I'm saying Doug's

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 3>not the only coach here.

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 5>And here's the thing.

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>When you're a young team coming up like the Lions,

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the coach needs to do things like that, to try

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and instill some culture and some belief and everything. When

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you're good team like the Lions.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 5>You don't need to do it.

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>That guy faked the punt his own end last night

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>yesterday on the twenty something yard line and he got

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>stuffed and they got a touchdown two plays later.

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 3>You don't do You don't need to do that, and

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 3>they still won.

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, pretty easily good.

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 3>They're really good. Just to clean something up. Obviously, guys

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 3>were right. We did not get flex last year. I

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 3>was thinking of. I was thinking of twenty eighteen after

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 3>we had a really good twenty seventeen. It was the

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>first Sunday night game we'd had in a long time,

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 3>and we got flexed in eighteen, so.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 2>We've been doing good. We had all those primetime games

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 2>last year, one this year, all of them, all of them.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 2>You know what they need to do on Thursday night football, everyone.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much everyone.

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Has except for us Monday Monday and then you get

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 2>their two London games, so technically national.

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 3>We're not going to say that I do not consider

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:50.280
<v Speaker 3>London games national.

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, last year when last time we had Monday night football,

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 2>when I got here, people I said something on Monday Football,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Monday Night Football, and they were like, oh, we've never

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 2>like we don't have it. I'm like, oh, we we.

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Used to all the time.

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 5>You get they should tell NBC.

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Look, if you're gonna put us on Sunday Night Football,

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>make sure it's like in the first month, then we

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>can't mess it up.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 3>We can't get flexed. Yeah that's fair enough. Yeah, it's

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 3>just it's disappointing getting flexed. I just hate it because

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's it's a down, or because it just

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 3>kind of speaks to the season you're having. I mean,

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 3>it's not the end of the world or anything. I mean,

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 3>go win, go.

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<v Speaker 1>In, go in, go win four in a row and

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe you'll get something flex back in. Yeah.

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go win four and oh you're six and five.

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 3>My goodness, that would change a lot of things. Interesting.

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 2>We love a comeback story. Everybody does.

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 3>Let's go, let's get let's get it. Are you locking it?

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna lock to that?

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. And I do want to apologize for the

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 2>double lock.

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Wells Kay's fault. She double lock. My single locks are

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 3>never wrong. Kai screwed it up.

0:46:58.000 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It was all my fun, all right.

0:46:59.040 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 5>When we come back.

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk are another victory Monday for Jaguars Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks for joining us in the Jaguars Digital Network today.

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<v Speaker 8>With us, they were in basically cover four quarters look

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 8>and safeties were low, and that was honestly the look

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 8>we were wanting for that play, and we had another

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 8>option if that wasn't the coverage and the situation. But

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.040
<v Speaker 8>Brian did a great job of just running at the corner,

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 8>keeping outside leverage and just running and then I'd put

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 8>it out there and let him go make a players

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 8>a great catch. You know, he's he's good. He's been

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 8>making a lot of plays for us, so it's it's

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 8>fun to watch him. It's fun to play with them

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 8>and just to see him get better every week. We

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 8>got to keep using them.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Hour, Jaguar's got to win this. Another victory Monday

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:07.720
<v Speaker 2>for them, a win over the Patriots in their second

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 2>game in London. So they're coming back from London one

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 2>and one and Trevor Lawrence right there talking about his

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 2>throw to Brian Thomas Junior over the middle, which was

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 2>the prettiest throw I've seen in quite some time from him.

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Just a great connection between both of them and only

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.760
<v Speaker 2>a couple of games so far the season, so yeah.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's one of those. That's one of those

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>examples of everyone on the play doing a great job,

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 3>including Gonzalez.

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 2>The corner, who's amazing. So that even better because he

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 2>played it perfectly as well.

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>So it was great protection, great play call, so they

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 3>got the right play call, off play action pass, good

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 3>job up front, great job by Trevor recognizing the coverage

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.760
<v Speaker 3>and making it just a perfect throw. The athletic ability

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 3>in the route by Brian Thomas Junior outstanding. It was

0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 3>really good coverage and you watch that in slow motion,

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 3>like the fact that Gonzales his arms right there and

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:10.160
<v Speaker 3>the concentration by Brian to bring it in with a

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 3>perfect throw. It was just one of those rare football

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 3>plays like if you're Christian Gonzalez. It's like I made

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 3>everything he could. I it's a perfect throw against a

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 3>really good young receiver. It's really fast, and I made

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 3>a play on the ball. I just missed it by

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:32.399
<v Speaker 3>an inch. Brian made a better play because he had

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 3>better He had great concentration looking all the way in

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 3>with the It was just it was a really it

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 3>was a great play and a great play call. And

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 3>I give a lot of credit to Trevor and Brian

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 3>for executing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done and executing it is one thing.

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 5>But the best part about that is calling it.

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you complimenting the play calling?

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I am I know I got a whole list of

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 1>critical critical play calling over here, But.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 3>People, what did you not like about the play calling?

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Except for the fourth down? I thought the play calling

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 3>was outstanding on Sunday probably.

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me see, No, the runs are fine.

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I like the runs. I didn't have any problem with that.

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>What about when they.

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:11.919
<v Speaker 3>Went back to bubbles?

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I know it was it.

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 5>Was no, it was it was bubble screen to the left.

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Yep, it was bubble screen to the left to the

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Brian Thomas, then bubble screen, and then.

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>It was a reverse to Brian Thomas and then it

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was another bubble screen to Evan Ingram, four straight plays.

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was I thought it was bubble reverse

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:41.839
<v Speaker 1>written down somewhere in here.

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was bubble reverse bubbles what I thought it.

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:45.959
<v Speaker 1>Was when the game there was four?

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.479
<v Speaker 5>No, there was four of them? Was it really four?

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes? And it made me puke. I'm watching that, I'm like,

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:54.279
<v Speaker 1>what is this garbage?

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember. I thought it was third quarter?

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 5>It was, and I wrote it down to where did

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 5>I put it?

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't count beat. If you can't remember it, you're out.

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 3>You can't criticize it. You don't have it, You're you're

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 3>You're like a mad scientist. You can't find his notes.

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 5>Well, because I got notes on everything.

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>He's very well researched. We'll give him that.

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Very very disorganized though.

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 5>No, but I because I have notes on other stuff.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm organized.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 3>No, there's don't give any credits this organization. Poor professional

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 3>third quarter, third quarter, bubble screen.

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 9>To Thomas, bubblescreen, bubble screen left to Thomas, bubble screen

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 9>right to Thomas, reverse to Thomas, bubble to Ingram.

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Poor straight You see that guy on the place.

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 3>They liked it. They like to look it's awful. Now

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 3>in fairness depressed.

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fairness, they picked up one first down with it.

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>What else Trevor Lawrence bailed him out on the second

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 1>little grouping over there because he uh, he had to

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 1>scramble for whatever yards he scrambled for on that one play.

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 3>But one of the just so you know, one of

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 3>those bubbles was not called. It was checked too, because, uh,

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars offense had the Patriots out leveraged with trips

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:17.919
<v Speaker 3>and that I believe that's the one Brian Thomas got

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 3>the first down, so they they had out leveraged the

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Patriots defense. Hold on, they finished, let me finish. A

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 3>different play was called. Trevor at the line of scrimm

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 3>is checked to it. So that's not on press. That's

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 3>a check by the quarterback based on a look.

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 1>It was success.

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 5>Is it a run pass option? Is that what it is?

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 3>No, he checked at the line of scrimmage. He saw something.

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 3>They had a look where they had out leveraged the defense.

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it looked like so they some of those

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>are run pass options.

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's no doubt about that.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:55.280
<v Speaker 1>But I think anyway, the reverses, those little those reverses.

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Gotta stopped to just throw the ball down the field.

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You got a big arm quarterback and he a wide receiver,

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>runs like a gazelle throwing the damn ball down the field.

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 3>He does, My goodness, and the fact that.

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>He could run the way he runs.

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Kirk's play were I think, you know, God, you said that.

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Was such a beautiful throw, and it was a beautiful

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>throw to to Brian Thomas.

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 5>The throw to Kirk was phenomenal.

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>From a quarter pill. Yes. Yeah, we had to put

0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that perfectly over the linebacker and put it in a

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>spot where the safety can't come up and blast him.

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Those open up because Thomas has the ability to go

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>down the field and Tony.

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Well the other way. To be clear, the other reason

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 3>that opened up it was off play action fake It

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.240
<v Speaker 3>held the linebackers long enough to create the space.

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 5>I get it, but they hadn't they hadn't really run

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 5>the ball.

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 3>But the action held them.

0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh, I agree with you.

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>You can use play action if you can if you

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.879
<v Speaker 1>do get the run game going. I liked play action,

0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>but shots with play action I like that, And and

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what they ran into, you know, in another thing,

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll give him credit for I'm gonna give another more credit.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving them credit. Why ripping them for the four?

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:07.399
<v Speaker 3>This is good. I like this positive with not.

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 5>A bunched up formation on the goal line.

0:54:10.560 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you like that spread. Look I wanted them to

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 3>get up under center and.

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Just pound like an offensive lineman.

0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 1>That's all that is?

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Well okay, at least I'm honest. Yes, you're right, that's

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 3>what I wanted to do. I'm not saying, but can

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:27.959
<v Speaker 3>they do that with the personality? Have no but pete

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.799
<v Speaker 3>in fairness, that's how everyone used to do it. More

0:54:30.840 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 3>people do it the way you like it.

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I see more people in shotguns spread out on first

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 3>and goal from the one than I do getting up

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 3>in big people.

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, look, it's getting that way, but it's

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:43.359
<v Speaker 5>still not.

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.919
<v Speaker 1>This team doesn't do it enough. I don't think. I think,

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 1>considering the troubles they've had in short yardist situations, they

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:49.800
<v Speaker 1>should do it more.

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 10>Fair And you know one other thing you mentioned earlier, Tony,

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:59.440
<v Speaker 10>the fielding to punt inside the five that has become

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 10>an epid demic in the NFL.

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Remember it used to be you put your heels on

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 3>the ten.

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let it go everybody's fielding punts inside the inside

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the ten and even at the five. You know the Packers.

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 1>When you watch the tape of the Packers next week,

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>they did it. Romeo Dobbs fielded up No, no, the

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>other kid, the slot corner fielded a punt. The slot

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:27.200
<v Speaker 1>receiver fielded a punt at the three yard line three yesterday.

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 3>But when he fielded it and it was like an

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 3>over the shoulder ketch him was because it was a

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 3>boomy punt. Yeah, and like so his his momentum was

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 3>taking him in the wrong direction.

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is he doing?

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 3>And it went and then halfway through him, like thank goodness.

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:47.279
<v Speaker 3>Actually wasn't over the shoulder, but.

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.439
<v Speaker 1>It was this is this is I mean this one

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he I don't when you look at this one and

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you say, okay, why is he fielding it there?

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.759
<v Speaker 5>He feeled that because he saw that it was a

0:55:57.960 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 5>giant hole right in front of him.

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 3>Were the Patriots playing with eight guys on the field

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 3>because no one even got near them. No, it was

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 3>so well blocked. But those are.

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>But it also goes to this part of the equation,

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 1>why the hell did you spend all that money on

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Devin DuVernay. Anything, give me something on that they knew

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they had this kid and he was a returner.

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they trust I don't think the

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 3>trust is there. I think the trust is there.

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Do they trust him?

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Now? That's how you find returners. You draft them, develop them,

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and trust them. Here's here's where I think this came

0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>into play. Ready, you know what I think. I think

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they overthought it. And here's why. I think they thought.

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>If they get Dubernay, they're gonna be ahead of the

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>curve on the kickoff rules, and we're gonna have two

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>guys and we're gonna set the trend and this and

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this and this and everything else, and the reality is

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:00.360
<v Speaker 1>all anybody does on those kickoffs boom.

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they definitely overestimated. I don't know if just

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:05.399
<v Speaker 2>the Dagwars, but I think everybody kind of did what

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 2>this kick was gonna do.

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I know the thinking of that. I know the thinking.

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 5>That's what that.

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Thinking had to be, because there's no way you're giving

0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>if you knew this kid could do with that, and

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 1>we saw glimming.

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Little or you saw in the preseason. You saw the

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 3>great kickoff return the first preseason.

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Because he was doing all the kickoff the preseason.

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 1>So bottom line is they wasted the money on Devin

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:24.960
<v Speaker 1>dover Day.

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:26.760
<v Speaker 3>How much are they paying, Pete.

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember it's like two years and like eight million,

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>eight and a half million or something like that.

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:33.320
<v Speaker 3>So too much four year?

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no bang for the buck.

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 3>We don't know that yet. He had a great return,

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 3>had a great return in the gameturner.

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't pay a returner.

0:57:45.120 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 3>They paid him in today's money, not a lot of money, Pete.

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And he had by the hand sitting on the bench.

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but dun is a good return and he helped

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 3>us win the game against the Colts with a great return.

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>That's set up a touchdown returner.

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 3>You were so negative, Pete. We won the day game.

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We got a couple of compliments.

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've been so negative on this show because

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 3>they deserved it. Like now you're still attacking, give me

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 3>a blank.

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm a realist. Somebody's got to bring some levity to

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 5>the program.

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>When you're waving your bomp bombs.

0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Up levity, Well, there's a difference between realism and levity.

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 3>If you're lefty means you're joking, joking. There's no joking

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 3>with you. You're serious, Pete.

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 2>You like him as a returner, and you talk about

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Kirk being available if someone calls about it. Do you

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.439
<v Speaker 2>feel like Parker can fill that role right now?

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes? I do.

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Look, he's not going to be Christian Kirk. But if

0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody makes an offer to you it's desperate for a

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver.

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, it depends. Tell me what happens this week first, guys,

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 3>can we like it like we won a game? If

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 3>we win this week, let's wait.

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but Tony always got to be prepared for every scenario.

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm prepared, but I'm trying to like hang in

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 3>there because it's been a miserable year so far, and

0:58:56.200 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to hang in there that we can find a

0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 3>way to beat the Pas, A good team. Yeah, I

0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:04.600
<v Speaker 3>think I'm trying to do. I'm not saying, Pete, I

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 3>agree with you. If you lose this week, the phone's

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 3>ring and I'm listening. But until then, I'm holding off,

0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 3>unless obviously, if someone comes off.

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>What do you listen? What are you listening to? You

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 1>getting calls for what? I don't know? You got something

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to tell us?

0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:26.560
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm saying I was I was speaking to what

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you were saying.

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 5>Are you leaving the program on us?

0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you know?

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going anywhere. I'm saying. I'm going back to

0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:36.480
<v Speaker 3>what you said. If people call you, listen, if you

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 3>lose this game. That's what we said the last hour.

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Am I not right? Am I wrong about that?

0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Jacksonville, leave me alone. I know nothing.

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>So that's all I'm gonna say on that.

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Can me too? You drug me into this, Pete.

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't drag anybody into anything.

0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't know.

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Somebody made a fake d M or something and I

0:59:54.720 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 1>had nothing to be out of it. I think it's

1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I really believe that is.

1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 5>I think that's.

1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Wishful thinking on a lot of people's parts. I'll be

1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 1>honest with you.

1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the Jags, big victory, Green Bay. We got,

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:11.680
<v Speaker 3>we know what we need to do. What are we

1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:12.360
<v Speaker 3>keeping it real?

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 2>We're keeping it real very soon shortly eventually, remember going

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>to keep it real about you know what?

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Offensive line? The offensive line played great, Walker Little played great.

1:00:22.520 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Mitch Morris, who's been their best offensive line, and at

1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:25.400
<v Speaker 3>his worst.

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Game Cleveland was okay, not great, and he had a

1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of like on the fourth on the fourth and

1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>one was ugly, fourth one abused. One of those plays,

1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>sherif some good moments of bad moments, and I thought

1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Harrison was actually pretty good.

1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was. I saw live and I saw the

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.160
<v Speaker 3>replay of the Cleveland play on the fourth and one.

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I looked at Logavan and I said, I've been there before.

1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:55.520
<v Speaker 3>That's one of those plays. When it happens, you're like,

1:00:55.640 --> 1:00:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I hope that play gets cut out of the film

1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:01.000
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want to watch that ever again. It's like,

1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 3>there's certain plays as an offensive lineman, and anyone who's

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:09.880
<v Speaker 3>played the position, anyone the greatest, the guys in the

1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame, to guys who get one, you know,

1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:16.200
<v Speaker 3>play just one season. If you've ever played the position,

1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:18.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't care who you are. You've been in a

1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:21.280
<v Speaker 3>situation where you have a play in a game and

1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 3>the first thought is you're like, oh no, that's on tape.

1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to ever see that again because it's

1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 3>just a bad play. You're at a position, maybe get

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 3>too high, you get pushed. It's just it's miserable. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think Ezra Cleveland's played playing good football this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had a good game in a lot of areas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I watched him in the run game. They

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<v Speaker 3>ran left into it behind him and Luke. I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>They did a great job on their doubles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, doubles. You thought we didn't hear that changed it

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<v Speaker 3>to Walker. But here's the other thing. Tony and he

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<v Speaker 3>had some great polls. On the touchdown, he had a

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<v Speaker 3>great poll I mean so, but that was a bad one.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of them though, like on that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was on the fourth down run, the third down run.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing shows up that we get annoyed about.

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<v Speaker 5>Anton has to.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch on his man's watching his guy. Remember his guy

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<v Speaker 1>came down the line and kind of got the legs

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<v Speaker 1>of the guy as he on the back before he

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<v Speaker 1>can really get going.

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<v Speaker 5>They gotta they gotta be careful of that.

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<v Speaker 3>They do that a lot buying tickets. Can we I'm

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<v Speaker 3>keeping it real, can we? Cause we uh, let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the Green Bay game. I want to hear from.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Pete, because you want producer over here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm asking you want I've watched a little bit. I've

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<v Speaker 3>not watched the tape. You watch a lot more of

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<v Speaker 3>these teams. You know, week in and week out, how

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<v Speaker 3>does this team how do because we haven't beat a

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<v Speaker 3>We beat the Colts, but by three they were beat up.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is We're playing a good football team this week. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>playoff caliber team.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>What does this team need to do to be We.

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<v Speaker 2>Are going to do that after the break round absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>around the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour and victory Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>will keep it real, send it by mister Chubby's wings.

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<v Speaker 8>Again.

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<v Speaker 4>We got in a situation where we were down, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we were down ten, but but nobody was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>here we go again, or defeated or you know, had

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<v Speaker 4>negative thoughts. It was just just one play at a

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<v Speaker 4>time or work ourselves back in it. And and offense

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<v Speaker 4>went out and we we showed the complimentary aspect of

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<v Speaker 4>the game today, you know, in all three phases.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm uh the spark that you know, hopefully we can

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<v Speaker 4>get this thing going.

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<v Speaker 2>we speak, Tony to SELLI, Pete Prisco, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it real at your request today, We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it real about this game against the Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start with you because I know you watch

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<v Speaker 2>all the league, all the games. Is it realistic if

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<v Speaker 2>this team doesn't make mistakes? Can they beat the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>this coming week?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they better be better on the back end defending

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<v Speaker 1>the pass. This is a good pass offense, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't we haven't still haven't seen the best of it

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<v Speaker 1>yet because Jordan Love was coming off that knee injury

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<v Speaker 1>and for a couple of weeks he was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dragging a little bit. But you're starting to see little

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<v Speaker 1>bits and pieces where he looks like Jordan Love again

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<v Speaker 1>from last year. And they have good receivers. Christian Watson

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<v Speaker 1>can fly and much like I talked to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>about Brian Thomas clearing out with his ability to get deep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Christian Watson does to their offense. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they have so many guys underneath, and they have good

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. I mean they can catch the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>catch the ball in the passing game as well, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a real and Jacob's runs hard.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Jacobs is a good back and they got a

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<v Speaker 3>good offensive line, so that this rush defense, who's done

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good for the most part of stopping the run,

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<v Speaker 3>especially this past Sunday they dominated, It's gonna be tested.

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<v Speaker 3>And my fear is if the Packers get the run

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<v Speaker 3>past like two things going, I think it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be good.

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<v Speaker 5>It could be, it could be, it could get loose.

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<v Speaker 1>That game can get high sched.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm worried about because we have not

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<v Speaker 3>like even if you look at the Patriots game, we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't consistently rush Drake may He had too much time,

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<v Speaker 3>especially early in that game. And that's an awful offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a good offensive line, better receivers, better quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>and if they get the run like that's my biggest concern.

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<v Speaker 3>If we I think you have to make him long

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<v Speaker 3>dimension one dimension, you have to get him third long situations,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to get off the field. This team

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<v Speaker 3>has not being able to get off the field. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't get turnovers, we don't get up on third down

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<v Speaker 3>very well, especially early so that needs to change. And

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<v Speaker 3>then offensively, Pete the Packers defense, I don't know much

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<v Speaker 3>about them.

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<v Speaker 5>They hadn't been up until they.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a lot of pressure last week in CJ. Stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>What were they doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Were they blitzing or they just rushing forth?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, they got after them.

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<v Speaker 1>The Texas had problems with their offensive line on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't watched that tape yet, but it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like on the TV when I was watching it they

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<v Speaker 1>were And that had been a criticism of the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>up until that point. That the pass rushers Rashaun Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Preston Smith and those guys, Yeah they're good players,

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<v Speaker 1>but they hadn't been winning.

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<v Speaker 5>That started to come together.

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<v Speaker 1>Having Alexander back at corner helps at you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it makes them slow down the reads and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball out. So it helped the pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a good defense. They have some young players.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Williams of safety on the back end is a

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<v Speaker 1>really good rookie safety from Oregon's good player.

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<v Speaker 5>They're athletic, they can run, they you know. And then

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<v Speaker 5>they saw some veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's some veterans on the you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Presto Smith, Kenny Clark, get guys up front,

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<v Speaker 1>they could get after it.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's gonna be a challenge for that offense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think for them to win this week, Guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're gonna stop the pack the Packers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Packers are gonna like I think this,

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<v Speaker 3>And if you look at and Doug said something aout

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<v Speaker 3>complamentary football as we came out of the last break,

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<v Speaker 3>and I agree with them. But what kicked off that

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<v Speaker 3>complmentary football. It was the offense. It was Trevor, it

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<v Speaker 3>was Brian Thomas Junior, was Tank Bigsby was that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think the offensive line for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. If they want to get on any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of run and start stacking wins, I think it has

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<v Speaker 3>to be the offense. I think the offense has to

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<v Speaker 3>come out fast. I actually would take the ball first

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<v Speaker 3>almost because this we give up more points.

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<v Speaker 2>You're steven.

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<v Speaker 3>We give up more points than any other team in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL, and the opening drives of games more than

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<v Speaker 3>anybody defensively. So let's take the ball first and see

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<v Speaker 3>if we can get that fast start. And get going

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<v Speaker 3>and set the tone. And I think this is one

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<v Speaker 3>of those games, guys, that we're gonna have to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty one to twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty four. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's gonna be in the high twenties, low thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>And offensively, I think the onus is on them because Pete,

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't see us getting enough pressure. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you have a good offense line with a really good

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<v Speaker 3>back in Josh Jacobs who is a power back downhill, physical.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they get and good receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they get it going, like I just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see us getting a bunch of stops and so

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<v Speaker 3>got to get a turnover here there, that'd be nice.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the onus is on the offense this week.

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<v Speaker 3>The offense has to start fast and come out and

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<v Speaker 3>saying we're gonna be in a heavyweight fight. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>It is on our backs and defensive, give us a

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<v Speaker 3>couple steal possession, get a turnover, give us a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of stops, and let us go to work. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I would take the ball first. I think this week

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<v Speaker 3>I would play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would take arm I would make Armstead start

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<v Speaker 1>at defensive three. Technique. If you look at the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>defensive offensive line, the center is just okay and the

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<v Speaker 1>right guard is just okay. That's that's the week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the weekly. Yeah, okay. I haven't watched the tape,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it tackles a really good player, and the left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle has is okay. The left guard is really good. Jenkin,

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<v Speaker 1>Elton Jenkins, you remember him. He's a good, very good player.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what I mean. Pete, uh, Doug Peterson's

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it. You know, we're two and five. We've

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<v Speaker 3>won two of the last three. Now, you could argue

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<v Speaker 3>we beat a winning team in the Colts there four

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<v Speaker 3>and three. However, that may be the.

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<v Speaker 1>First four and three team I've ever seen, by the way.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 3>They just got flex the Sunday night, Bete, they're going.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but they lost. They beat the Dolphins barely

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<v Speaker 1>by That team with the Huntley went out and they

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<v Speaker 1>played the backup quarterback and held on for dear life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a good team.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, this is like, if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>start stacking them, you better get it here because like

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<v Speaker 3>it does not get easier. You got to go to Philly,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a tough place to play. Now, the Phillies

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<v Speaker 3>beat up a little bit on the offensive line. But

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<v Speaker 3>then you got the Vikings, who were you know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>beating the Lions early.

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<v Speaker 5>And what's the four games? The four game stretches brut.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, listen to this. Three of the four against the

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<v Speaker 3>best division in football, the NFC North. So you got

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<v Speaker 3>this week the Packers at home. Then you go to

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<v Speaker 3>the I believe, the leading NFC East team, The Eagles

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<v Speaker 3>have the best record in the NFC East, first place Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>They're tied with the Washington Okay, but.

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<v Speaker 3>They're tied for first right. Then you go come home

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<v Speaker 3>to this King Vikings, who are a five win team.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you go to Detroit, who I think is the

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<v Speaker 3>best team in the NFL. Like if the Detroit Lions

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<v Speaker 3>are paying the Chiefs, I'm picking the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm without without Hutchinson, I am they better go get

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<v Speaker 1>They should go get Max Crosby.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a chance before we play them, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have traded for a pass rusher. Whether I don't think,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that shows up. Believe me, that shows up. It

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<v Speaker 1>showed up in a big way.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that. But I don't think they get Crosby.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they go get.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they get Zadarius Smith from Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>But can they afford Crosby? Can they fit him in

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<v Speaker 3>the cap?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're all in this team, is this team?

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<v Speaker 5>You're right?

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<v Speaker 1>This team can win a Super Bowl year. He'll get Crosby.

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<v Speaker 3>I would listen if they can fit it, because I

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<v Speaker 3>do believe this is the best team in football. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you get with a pass rusher, and if you

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<v Speaker 3>can afford cap wise, go give a second rounder and

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<v Speaker 3>go get Crosby, because I think you can get him

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<v Speaker 3>for a second rounder.

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I would do that. And it's because you

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<v Speaker 1>had to give up one and you think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good late one. Go get him for that too.

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<v Speaker 3>You noticed Crosby set out this week, and that guy

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't sit out for anything.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what else he did? No, he played

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<v Speaker 5>this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh did the end up? He did, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>practice all week.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, you know what he did?

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't practice all week. But they came out.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he's open to be a Drade because he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a part of the rebuild.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. He wants out.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't play Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>I get him and make it happen, because with him

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<v Speaker 1>they can win a super Bowl. If they don't get

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Crosby, they're not winning a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>They're good on offense, so my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they've made they've They've made Jared Goff into

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<v Speaker 1>the big time, big time MVP Candidy.

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<v Speaker 3>They got two start backs, they got an offensive line.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they are good. Now, here's the funny thing

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<v Speaker 3>about the NFL. Though we are saying this right now,

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<v Speaker 3>but the league is funny. And I'm not wishing this

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<v Speaker 3>on anybody, but every team, every team is one or

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<v Speaker 3>two key injuries away from being very average. That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the sad part. But that's the beauty of the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't know until you get to December.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a survival test making that far and playing your

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<v Speaker 2>best football at the right time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, they're the best team, But in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Opinion, the Chiefs are the best team. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so that defense is dark good Ton. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>look ordinary on Sunday well.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were also without Trent Williams got ejected, which

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<v Speaker 3>both guys should have got both guys. Both guys should

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<v Speaker 3>have got ejected. Ayuk blues the out. They don't have

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<v Speaker 3>Christoph McCaffrey.

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<v Speaker 5>He played, I know, but up until this point he's

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<v Speaker 5>played pretty good football without those guys. Samuel was sick.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't play Samuel's I mean they were without their

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, I mean, let's not make too much out

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<v Speaker 3>of them beaten.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know they hadn't run the ball. The same

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line was there. They couldn't run ball.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying the Chiefs aren't good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Chiefs are impresive at this point because

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<v Speaker 2>they can always find a way no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that what's crazy about the Chiefs and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't play them, which I'm happy about, is Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 3>has six touchdowns and eight interceptions and and they're undefeated.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know what he can do if he needs

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<v Speaker 5>to go get one.

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<v Speaker 3>He that's the like this is and this is the

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<v Speaker 3>next evolution that Trevor needs to take. When you have

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in the fourth quarter and you have to

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<v Speaker 3>go score, everyone in the stadium has to know you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go score. Like there's certain guys in this league,

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<v Speaker 3>like with like two or three minutes and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to go score. They're like, Mahomes, you can

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go score. Josh Allen, He's gonna go find a

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<v Speaker 3>way to score. I mean, there's certain guys. The Detroit

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<v Speaker 3>Lions is a team behind Jared Goff. I mean, give

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<v Speaker 3>him great. Did he end up with over one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty passeray again?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but he's but he's his stats are amazing. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the only quarterback. He has a completion presented at eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three point five in the last four games, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the highest ever. I mean, he's it's incredible. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>realize he has They have scored more touchdowns and he

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<v Speaker 1>has incompletions in the last four games.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen They fixed him. Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Johnson, What about that guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Give him credit. That's the quarterback coach. Give Mark a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of credits.

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<v Speaker 5>Job with the quarterback too. I mean, look, Mark's a

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<v Speaker 5>good quarterbacks coach.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of love to go around.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes back to keeping it real. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity against a very good Packers team. Come into town

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<v Speaker 3>where I want to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You're legitimate win this.

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<v Speaker 3>It changes the entire narrative of this season. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean you're back in it, but you are now different.

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<v Speaker 3>It's different. It feels different going to Philly. It feels

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<v Speaker 3>different in the division, it feels different in the city.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels different in this building. And I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is an opportunity because I think it's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>be the offense. I hope the defense plays better. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope they clean things up. I hope they get up

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<v Speaker 3>the field. I don't have a lot of confidence right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That means offensively, Trevor. That line bigsby Brian Thomas Ingram

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<v Speaker 3>and it starts with Trevor. This is the opportunity. Go

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<v Speaker 3>take it to them and say, Hey, as an offense,

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<v Speaker 3>we're putting this team on our back this week. We

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<v Speaker 3>know we're playing against another good offense. We are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go score, We're gonna get into the thirties, and in

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth quarter when we have the ball, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make the plays. Then it's gonna take the win. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what we need to see this week, and that's what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope we say this week and limit the bubble screens.

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<v Speaker 2>For Pete's sake, only limit the bubble screens. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>everything just for Brian Thomas Junior talking a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about LSU wide receiver University Pete. Is Brian Thomas Junior

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<v Speaker 2>the best wide receiver in this class?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but he's close.

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<v Speaker 5>His former teammate is the best wide receiver in this class.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he be by the end of this year considering

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks?

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<v Speaker 1>Could he be by the end of his career. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it'll happen this year, but he

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<v Speaker 1>could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think let's let's delineate between the best receiver

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<v Speaker 3>in the best numbers. I could see Brian Thomas Junior

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<v Speaker 3>putting up better numbers than the Molik Neighbors because of

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback he's dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Neighbors was hurt. But based on when both had been

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, it'd be as much as I love

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Thomas Jr. And I do think he has the

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<v Speaker 3>potential to be one of the best receivers in the

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<v Speaker 3>I mean really good receiver in this league and upper echelon,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would be unfair and we'd be forgetting

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<v Speaker 3>what Neighbors did the first four weeks when he was healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>Not only that Neighbors was a better receiver at LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>He was and so like, here's the thing, better than Harrison. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right now and he will be. Look when he came out.

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<v Speaker 1>I one thing about Marvin Harrison that bothered me is

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<v Speaker 1>there's no real suddenness to his game. Brian Thomas and

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<v Speaker 1>elite neighbors have suddenness. It matters, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so donsay in Chicago. He doesn't have real suddenness either.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the difference between Brian. I think Brian Thomas is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be one of the best receivers in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a real, true alpha number one receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>If Brian Thomas to do that, he needs to continue

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<v Speaker 3>to work, and he should. He's a rookie, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not true. He continues his route running routes and is

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<v Speaker 3>in cleaning up and becoming even a better route runner.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I saw something, And I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get to this question or not. So if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>stealing your thunder, kaya forgive me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you if we have it.

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<v Speaker 3>The questions coming in is was is Brian Thomas Junior

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<v Speaker 3>the second best receiver in the history of this franchise?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, did you forget about a guy named

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<v Speaker 3>Keenan McCardell.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're going off potential and there, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like, like Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>Smith is fifteen receivers and yards and catches and catches

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<v Speaker 1>and yards.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that people like to get excited about

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<v Speaker 2>things best drafted a receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on time out. I don't like doing this to

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<v Speaker 3>young players, and we do that too often here, Like everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>pump your brakes. Brian Thomas Junior is a heck of

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<v Speaker 3>a football player and is having a great rookie year

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<v Speaker 3>and has all kinds of potential, has skill, a skill

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<v Speaker 3>set that is rare. He can go get it, he

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<v Speaker 3>can run by people, and he's good when the ball's

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<v Speaker 3>in the air, no doubt about it. Like he is,

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<v Speaker 3>he has a chance to be special. But please don't

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<v Speaker 3>even put him in the same sentence as Jimmy Smith

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<v Speaker 3>at this point. Jimmy Smith arguably should be in the

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame. If you go watch him, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you go talk to any Hall of Fame corner who

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<v Speaker 3>had to play against Jimmy Smith, they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>lined up against him that day because that's how good

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Smith was. And Keenamar Cardell was an absolute beast

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the best receivers in an era. When

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<v Speaker 3>you went across the middle, you took your life in

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<v Speaker 3>your own hands. And he went across the middle and

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<v Speaker 3>played the middle of the field as well as anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>And as Pete said, is a top fifteen like all time,

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<v Speaker 3>like yards or near there and so.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Tony, But to Cau's point, he will be

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<v Speaker 1>the best drafted wide receiver in team history.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that. I'm not sufted, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>The bar, like he's so low on that I can

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<v Speaker 2>jump in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Purse of the position for so long. Remember it started

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<v Speaker 1>with R. J. Sower.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that, but bar, But here's what I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>We do this too often in this organization, too much pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy has played seven games, he is outstanding. Enjoy it, celebrated.

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<v Speaker 3>What a great rookie year, what a great pick. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad he's on our team. What a good job getting

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<v Speaker 3>him late in the mid mid to late of the

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<v Speaker 3>first round. Love every aspect of it. But don't start

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<v Speaker 3>at like, don't start saying Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell, like no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, does he have the tools?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, high percent. I love Brian Thomas jet It is

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<v Speaker 3>so fun to watch him. I want us to throw

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<v Speaker 3>deep to him like five times a game because he

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<v Speaker 3>just runs by people and for somehow, some way, even

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<v Speaker 3>when he's covered, he comes down with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But if he runs deep four or five times, that's

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<v Speaker 5>four or five times. They can't run a bubble screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go. But you know what I'm saying, Let's

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate what he's done so far, but let's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Start all right, We'll pump the brakes, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We do, Pete, do you see you see what I'm saying, Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you said. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>being he has the ability to be into that class.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Great As yesterday on one of our shows, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there are elite receivers in this league like Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>and Jefferson and those guys. If he continues to do

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<v Speaker 1>what he what I think he can do, he could

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<v Speaker 1>be in that class.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, he can has a chance to be special.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love it. I absolutely love it. And he

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<v Speaker 3>is the best tracted receiver I've seen in this franchise.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not saying, but but he's done it for seven games.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's keep it going. I mean he is, and I do,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think what Pete said, what a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he was the fourth receiver taking off the board,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was talk should this team trade up to

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<v Speaker 3>go get one of those top three guys which I

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<v Speaker 3>was a top three which I was never for no

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<v Speaker 3>chance know how would have done that. But when they made.

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<v Speaker 5>The wide receivers to go, and he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, and he has his speak fast, he

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<v Speaker 3>has a gear that most guys don't have. And right now, ironically,

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<v Speaker 3>the two best young receivers of this class both played

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<v Speaker 3>together last year. It's Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>Both are with Jade Daniels, with Jane Daniels.

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<v Speaker 3>How they how they lost the game? I have no

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<v Speaker 3>They can't stop.

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<v Speaker 5>That couldn't stop anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though they had the two defensive tackles that Jacksonville had,

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't stop anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's unreal. So love it. Great seven game stretch,

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<v Speaker 3>his yards per catch, the numbers he's putting up. Love it,

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<v Speaker 3>every bit of it. I just don't like. I see

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<v Speaker 3>questions like, is he better than Keenan marcrdell?

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<v Speaker 1>No, not yet, Yes, cans that didn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he have a skill set that Keenan never had

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<v Speaker 3>because Brian was born with it? Yes, was.

1:24:49.800 --> 1:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Keenan was one of the best route runners in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Keenan. I don't know what he ran,

1:24:56.160 --> 1:24:58.760
<v Speaker 3>but it was. It wasn't super fast, but somehow that

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<v Speaker 3>dude got open and got behind guys and made catches

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<v Speaker 3>and played the game like in a manner like. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm biased because Keenan McCardell is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>teammates I've ever played with. Because Keenan McCardell is the

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<v Speaker 3>toughest football player I've ever played with. And he's a

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver. And I've never seen I've never seen someone

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<v Speaker 3>practice as hard as Keith Marcadell. I've never seen someone

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<v Speaker 3>study the game like Keenan McCardell. I've never seen someone

1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:31.960
<v Speaker 3>who loved football like Keenan McCardell. And I've never seen

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who would sacrifice everything for his team like

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<v Speaker 3>Kean McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 8>He was.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a guy who played the week after getting

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<v Speaker 3>a Grade three AC joint separation, was told to be

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<v Speaker 3>out four to six weeks, played the next week. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, this is a guy in the playoffs that.

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<v Speaker 5>Broke, guys that cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, one of my all time favorite guys that cover,

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<v Speaker 1>and he needs to be in the ring of all.

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<v Speaker 3>He should be. I love it. And he's a guy

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<v Speaker 3>in a playoff game. Broke his wrist against the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>and was going to be out for obviously broken wrists

1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:10.400
<v Speaker 3>like broke broke and said, I'm playing against the Jets

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<v Speaker 3>next week. I'm like, there's no chance you're playing. Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>practice all week non contact, He ran through the routes,

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<v Speaker 3>put a cast on, and had like ten catches against

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets in a playoff game with a cast. The

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<v Speaker 3>dude was like an animal, an animal.

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<v Speaker 1>And he should still be in the building, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, one of the best receiver coaches

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<v Speaker 3>in this league.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's what I mean. You should still be in

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<v Speaker 5>the building.

1:26:38.760 --> 1:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not taking anything away from Chad Hall. He's

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<v Speaker 3>our coach. I'm glad he's here. He's a good football coach.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, and I think now you can argue

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<v Speaker 3>this that Brian Thomas Junior is the third best receiver

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<v Speaker 3>in this You can argue that. You could argue that

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<v Speaker 3>all day long, and I don't have a great argument

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<v Speaker 3>against this.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, all right, we're keeping it positive. We beat

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<v Speaker 2>a bad New England team. How much good can we

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<v Speaker 2>take from this game moving forward, given who that opponent was. Tony,

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<v Speaker 2>you talked about the offense getting going. What are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the good things that you saw in.

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<v Speaker 3>Your run game? You got the run game going. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the offensive line is a group that's played starting

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<v Speaker 3>with Houston and since then has played really good football,

1:27:22.000 --> 1:27:25.000
<v Speaker 3>really good football, and his physical They ran the ball.

1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I thought Walker Little was outstanding and and I like

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<v Speaker 3>that they gave the ball to Tank Bigsby twenty six times.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is a recipe for success. Run the

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<v Speaker 3>ball with Bigsby, play action pass, take your shots down

1:27:38.360 --> 1:27:41.200
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the field. Trevor's playing good. It helps

1:27:41.200 --> 1:27:43.400
<v Speaker 3>the line protect. You don't have to drop back as much.

1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:45.760
<v Speaker 3>It takes the pressure off that line, especially against some

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<v Speaker 3>good pass rushers. It wears defenses out and allows you

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<v Speaker 3>to dictate the tempo and the pace and your will

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<v Speaker 3>in the fourth quarter. That's how I think this team

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<v Speaker 3>should play. And it does another thing that we needed

1:27:59.880 --> 1:28:03.080
<v Speaker 3>to It keeps our defense on the sideline. They had

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<v Speaker 3>long drives from the second quarter on except for the

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<v Speaker 3>bomb to Brian Thomas Jr. And the putt return. Were

1:28:09.680 --> 1:28:11.479
<v Speaker 3>the defense that to go right back out there. And

1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:13.439
<v Speaker 3>the defense did better in the second in the last

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<v Speaker 3>three quarters, but you look at the second half, that

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<v Speaker 3>defense wasn't on the field very much because they ran

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<v Speaker 3>it and they eight clock and a combination of controlling

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<v Speaker 3>the clock, running the ball, play action, pass, big shots.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a big play receiver and Brian Thomas Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the recipe in my opinion, of how you need

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<v Speaker 3>to play because of all the things I said, And

1:28:37.680 --> 1:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>keeps your defense on the sideline. The defense is struggling

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<v Speaker 3>right now to get off the field. And so the

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<v Speaker 3>best way sometimes play good defenses is don't let the

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<v Speaker 3>other offense on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's score points. There we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you got, I mean, you gotta score points. You

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<v Speaker 3>got and you got you gotta make you gotta take

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<v Speaker 3>seven not three?

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<v Speaker 2>like we're saying this every single week. They absolutely needed

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<v Speaker 2>that win last week, especially after the performance against the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears and after this one, hoping to kind of roll

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<v Speaker 2>that into a game against the Packers, who are a

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<v Speaker 2>much better team where I think if you can get

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<v Speaker 2>a win, that would actually change some things around here. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you're beating teams in the Colts and the Patriots that

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<v Speaker 2>you hopefully should beat, but a win against the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>would go a long way. Pete, when we're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>a team like Green Bay coming in, what did you

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<v Speaker 2>see from them last week and what are we going

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<v Speaker 2>to see this week.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they got all over c J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud. They limited him throwing the football, I mean, and

1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>they didn't play very well with the Texans. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>we know they can score then we know the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>can score points. But I think he threw under one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards on Sunday and it wasn't just him.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have Nico Collins, so that changed the way

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<v Speaker 5>they play him.

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<v Speaker 1>But Green Bay is good. They're talented at a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of spots, important spots, and like I said earlier, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the pass rush has.

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<v Speaker 5>Been a problem for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're gonna score points on Jacksonville. So Jacksonville better

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<v Speaker 1>be ready to go get points of their own. And

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<v Speaker 1>Tony's right, it's going to be. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>higher scoring game. And I think that's going it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the it needs to be the Trevor Lawrence thrown

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<v Speaker 1>a round game where Thomas gets one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>in a touch you know that kind of game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what it needs to be for Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the number, CJ show only twenty one attempts,

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<v Speaker 3>eighty six yards, no touchdowns, no interception, sacked four four times.

1:31:00.760 --> 1:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>That means they dropped back twenty five times. I actually

1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>had five rushes, so they dropped back thirty times. But

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<v Speaker 3>let me tell you the formula. Pete Joe Joe Mixon

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five carries one hundred and fifteen yards a tank.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go, let's get tank going. They had thirty three

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<v Speaker 3>rushers for one forty two four point three yards a carry.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the formula. I'm not saying I agree

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<v Speaker 3>that they.

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<v Speaker 5>Need because they're not great against the run either.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to take shots down the field, no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>about it. But it needs to be set up by

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<v Speaker 3>running the ball, play action, pass, run it. Keep that

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<v Speaker 3>offense that Packers offense on the sideline. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>if you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't score points, you're gonna pay for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. That's a theory to you. If you run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and control the clock and go get a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal, they go get a touchdown seven to three,

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<v Speaker 1>you go get your control.

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<v Speaker 5>O'clock gets fourteen to six.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to you have to make you have to

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<v Speaker 3>score touchdowns. You can't kick field goals, so you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be good in the red zone. Pete's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>I just worry. I just worry about our defense because

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<v Speaker 3>our defense hasn't done anything to me that gives you

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<v Speaker 3>confidence that can get off the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the time of possession for me too. We've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this. Obviously. They're on the field so much

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<v Speaker 2>that even if the offense is doing well, they're out

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<v Speaker 2>of rhythm because it's been ten minutes since they had

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<v Speaker 2>the football.

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<v Speaker 3>Like literally in the first quarter Sunday, it was eleven

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<v Speaker 3>and a half minutes to three and a half, nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>plays the five place. I mean, the Jack said you can't,

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<v Speaker 3>and I said it on the broadcast, you can. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're an offensive player, you're sitting there on the sidelines.

1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.519
<v Speaker 3>You get no rhythm. You're like getting cold, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go warm up, I need a stretch again, Like

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<v Speaker 3>get off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. And if you're a Green Bay, save your good

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<v Speaker 1>play for the fourth, good place for fourth, five and six,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know you'll be playing the backups by that.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, Pete in the hockey lineup change.

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<v Speaker 5>It just infuriates me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't understand it, and I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the only one I know.

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<v Speaker 5>You've said it too, But does anybody else say it?

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<v Speaker 5>Does log him and say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do. I just think you need your best players,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when you're a struggling defense. You need your best

1:33:08.720 --> 1:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>players on the field. There's certain guys I wouldn't take

1:33:10.760 --> 1:33:15.679
<v Speaker 3>off unless they're just gas gassed. Trayvon Walker, Josh heinz Allen.

1:33:15.960 --> 1:33:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't take Ventrel Miller off. He's he runs and hits,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not saying he's great in coverage. But you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, tell me.

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<v Speaker 5>The line coverage once he learns at a drop.

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<v Speaker 3>But Pete, here's the thing. Tell me the linebacker we

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<v Speaker 3>have who's good in.

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<v Speaker 1>Coverage, because Steven Lloyd's terrible in coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>So put Ventrail out there. Get Eric Armistead every third down. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing three technique, or rush the passer or start

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<v Speaker 3>him there. I'm not I'm actually ok Pete in base personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't want to play Eric Armistead inside, like,

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<v Speaker 3>make him a sub player. Sixty seventy percent of the

1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>players are in sub anyway, So put him out there

1:33:54.680 --> 1:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>and Nickel it's fine. I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton I would play the like Hamilton's good in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, he looked, you know, Tony the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked almost back to being what he was.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that's right, But you sign you signed Graziano.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a serviceable guy in first and second down if

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<v Speaker 3>you need to give those guys a blow.

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<v Speaker 2>Can Mason Smith get back in the next year. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see him suit up last game.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't sound like. I mean, he's been inactive for

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<v Speaker 3>two games, healthy and active this year at a seven.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't popped on film. He's gonna have to go

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<v Speaker 3>earn it. I don't know what's going on. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's a reason he's not out there. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a second round pick. You need production out of him,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's not giving you the production.

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<v Speaker 5>The knock on him coming out of LSU was did

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<v Speaker 5>he love it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was you know, he had the.

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<v Speaker 5>Major knee injury early.

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<v Speaker 1>And was on the way you know he has he has.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not kidding, and I love the kid, don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong. He was on my better than day. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was gonna be his big time player or steal.

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<v Speaker 1>I still do think he has the potential, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't love it. I don't care how much much potential

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<v Speaker 5>you have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's draft and develop. We're gonna have to develop

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<v Speaker 2>that one for sure. We're keeping an eye on this

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the week and kind of see if he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be active this week. But going into it, we

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<v Speaker 2>know the Jags.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, guy, here's what would bother me if

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<v Speaker 5>I were him?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Your guy drafted behind you? Your former teammate was active

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<v Speaker 1>and you weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you look on tape? And I think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, I mean, yeah, nothing great.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just I think they're really I mean again with

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<v Speaker 2>the switching. They're really committed with the moving everybody back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, because then they get Lacy up and Ota

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<v Speaker 2>maywell every other.

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<v Speaker 3>Maywe was not even active. I thought he they loved him.

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<v Speaker 1>Lacey wasn't great on Sunday. I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a real infatuation with lady and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep rotating until someone kind of makes them stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, rotation hockey rotations, as Pete loves to.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, over the wall, get over the ice, get on

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<v Speaker 5>the ice. Too many men on the ice penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got predictions for this game coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not locking anything, and I apologize for the double lock,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to hear what these fellows think

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<v Speaker 2>will happen this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Pete, like screen Bay, you know, I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>picked the jags every week, you do, you know my

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<v Speaker 3>confidence if I lock it. I'm not locking it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm picking the jacks all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what if we put them on a

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<v Speaker 1>log detector right now, that thing would go nuts, and

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<v Speaker 1>picking picking Jackson it would go so they'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>go get a new one.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be Let's say, what's who playing Monday nights?

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<v Speaker 3>And I haven't paying attention. I've been on games games.

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<v Speaker 3>What's this two game Monday night thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't like it, to be honest, I like it

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<v Speaker 2>because then if one's bad, you can switch the other one.

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<v Speaker 3>For both are good? Ky be positive?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Ravens Bucks, that could be very.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, be a great game, and that's a great game

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<v Speaker 3>that could be.

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<v Speaker 5>That could be a high school Chargers Cardinals game.

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<v Speaker 3>Charge Cardinals does not interest me. I'll be watching Ravens.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the Chargers because the Chargers actually played. Remember

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<v Speaker 5>then went to Denver and beat up the Broncos last week.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thirty seconds, give me your quick pick.

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<v Speaker 3>I got Chargers will beat the Cardinals. They're more physical team.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they win. I'm gonna go Bucks. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Beatos are sneak too. I think they get a

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<v Speaker 3>win against the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks, gentlemen, thank you for letting me sit

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<v Speaker 2>in for JP Shadwick. He'll be back on Thursday. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back next Monday. I appreciate you all, all, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, thanks for joining us on Happy Hour.