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Speaker 1: It is Victory Monday, October twenty First, this is Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet.

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Speaker 3: Home Loans and now landing the starring role in the

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Speaker 3: new Tony Vasselli adaptation The Book of Morons TVs. Kine

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Speaker 3: nne As Stephens. Whoa whoa, whoa whoa wa Wait, get nice.

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Speaker 2: This isn't your show just yet. And that wasn't very nice,

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Speaker 2: But we do have a Victory Monday Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kinnanni Stevens and for JP Shadrick, he is traveling back

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Speaker 2: from the United Kingdoms, so you guys get me for

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Speaker 2: one more and I feel very honored. I've had both

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Speaker 2: Victory Happy Hour Mondays so far this season, one on

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Speaker 2: one trip to London, Jaguars obviously beating the Patriots thirty

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Speaker 2: two sixteen, the highest scoring game we've seen from the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars so far this season. So it should be a

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Speaker 2: fun episode coming up for you. We always keep it

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Speaker 2: real and of course we'll have fanatic fan questions for

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Speaker 2: you coming up as well. But more than anything, Jags

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Speaker 2: needed that win.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Needed to win a game.

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Speaker 4: It didn't matter where Obviously we love coming over here,

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Speaker 4: but it didn't matter where. We just needed to feel

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Speaker 4: what winning feels like again.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hall of Famer Tony Boselli as we mentioned

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Speaker 2: in that play, and Pete Prisco going to join us

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Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, they needed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I jumped a gun a little bit there.

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Speaker 2: So Okay, it's been a long it's been a long hours.

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Speaker 3: That was a long week. Good week. Always good to

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Speaker 3: go over to London, the annual trip, and it was.

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Speaker 2: A lot longer because they lost the first game.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: It did make it, didn't it like last week's seem

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Speaker 3: d I mean, last year felt like it just was

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Speaker 3: so quick and great because we won both games. This year,

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Speaker 3: probably there was a downer after that Bears game. We

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Speaker 3: talked about that last week. We're going to ignore that

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Speaker 3: this week because we got a victory. Did not start

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Speaker 3: very well. I was nervous after the first quarter, down

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Speaker 3: ten to nothing. We had five offensive plays, they had nineteen,

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Speaker 3: had eight first downs, we had one. But give them credit.

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Speaker 3: One of the things this team had been criticized for

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Speaker 3: was not being able to overcome adversity. Trevor even called

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Speaker 3: them fragile, and they did it, and I think it

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Speaker 3: was led by the offense. The offense got it going

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Speaker 3: broad energy. There was no energy at being in that game, Kai,

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Speaker 3: I thought, not at all.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the Jags didn't have any excuse because we've

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Speaker 2: been there all week. The Patriots obviously, with the flight

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Speaker 2: and whatnot, sometimes teams can start a little slow. But Pete,

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Speaker 2: how do you look on TV?

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Speaker 1: Like I think they looked lifeless, Like Tony said, you said,

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Speaker 1: it just didn't look good in the beginning. But look,

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Speaker 1: the one thing you were looking for, if things weren't

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Speaker 1: going well, would they respond? And they did because the

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Speaker 1: quit talk was out there, the fragile talk was out there,

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Speaker 1: the culture talk was out there, and so they could

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Speaker 1: have quit.

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Speaker 5: They could have, you know, curled up.

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Speaker 1: In the fetal position and said the season's done and

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Speaker 1: started booking their trip to to Bermuda or wherever they go.

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Speaker 1: But they didn't. And that's a good sign. And it's

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Speaker 1: a good sign the way they did it. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of good things that came out of that game.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean everything's fixed, That doesn't mean they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make a playoff push. It means none of that. It

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Speaker 1: means they beat a bad football team. But they did

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Speaker 1: it after they fell behind ten nothing, and that's a

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Speaker 1: good sign for that team. No, I agree.

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Speaker 3: I thought the first quarter was very concerning and more

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Speaker 3: not even offensively. Let me had one drive, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and they got a first down. They stalled out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: whatever that happens. But they only have five plays because

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Speaker 3: your defense, again couldn't get off the field against the

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Speaker 3: worst offense. Let's just be clear. The Patriots are the

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Speaker 3: worst offense in the NFL. They're terrible. And I was like,

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Speaker 3: what is going on?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: I agree with Pete giving them all the credit because

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Speaker 3: we've all seen teams in the past that do curl

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Speaker 3: up in the fetal position. They did not. And I'm

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Speaker 3: the last three games. And I thought offensively, they ran

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Speaker 3: Now that's not a very good defense. It's not a

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Speaker 3: to the NFL. They get paid and the offense, man,

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Speaker 3: they brought the energy, and I'll tell you, as a

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Speaker 3: somebody has to step up, somebody has to make a play,

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Speaker 3: I thought both offensively and special teams Parker Washington touchdown

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Speaker 3: but credit to him, he made it happen. And then

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Speaker 3: the defense started coming along and started, you know, and

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Speaker 3: I think Drake may is gonna be a really good

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Speaker 3: they don't have the offensive line, they don't have the

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Speaker 3: be able to run the ball. The Jaguars took that away,

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Speaker 3: as they should, and you felt like, really end of

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Speaker 3: like the Patriots were not going to come back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, you mentioned the quarterback, and and he's

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of criticism over the course of the

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Speaker 1: last season, you know, half the last season and this season,

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Speaker 1: but are you right, the last couple of weeks have

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Speaker 1: been really good. And so what do they do to

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Speaker 1: kind of open things up a little bit, Tony? What

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Speaker 5: Middle of the field?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you take shots down the middle of

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Speaker 1: the best throws he made was the crosser to Kirk Brady.

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Speaker 1: And then Thomas made the big throw in the big

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Speaker 1: But those open things up. The threat of that opens

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Speaker 1: opens those button million, fourteen thousand bubble screens they throw up.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think it was so good to

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Speaker 5: Look, let's be real about it. You throw the score,

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Speaker 5: you run the win.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to run the ball when

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Speaker 1: you need to run the ball, but you have to

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Speaker 5: And I think they did that.

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Speaker 1: Now that Patriots aren't very good on defense, like you said,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that they did it was very encouraging.

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Speaker 3: But Pete, I'm gonna like and we have had this

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Speaker 3: debate a thousand times of the show. You talk about

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Speaker 3: throw the ball to open it up, stretch things out,

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Speaker 3: then run it. I like this fact those pound the

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Speaker 3: deep shots because if you notice, both those deep shots

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Speaker 5: But they hadn't run it very well before they had.

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Speaker 3: Now they were I mean the Kirk one I agree

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Speaker 3: with they had not run the ball very well because

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Speaker 3: it was early. That was the second That was only

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Speaker 3: the second drive they had the ball, second time they

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Speaker 3: had the ball in the game. I thought after that

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Speaker 3: they did run the ball well. I thought they were

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Speaker 1: I thought was when did Thomas play come the four

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Speaker 5: Okay, how many rushing yards did they have?

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Speaker 1: At that point.

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Speaker 3: They had pounded tank a few times. Pete where they

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Speaker 3: started pounding it, he was getting he was having success.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not arguing your point is fair

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Speaker 3: there because they did take shots early in the game.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. Now we say early in

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Speaker 1: That has to change.

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Speaker 3: Like, by the way, I don't want to be negative

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Speaker 3: in this first segment because we did win. Let me

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Speaker 3: tell you what. The next four games are against four

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Speaker 3: playoff teams, four teams with winning records, four teams with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: four teams that are good. And if you start games

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Speaker 3: like that against those teams. Defensively, it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 3: to come back, it's gonna be very difficult. With that said,

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Speaker 3: offensively they did, and to peach credit and to Pete's

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Speaker 3: point point of view, they did throw it down the

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Speaker 3: field early, in the middle of the field and took

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Speaker 3: shots and give him credit, Trevor was very accurate, did

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Speaker 3: a great job, and then they got the run game going.

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Speaker 3: At one point, Pete, I know you were probably just

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Speaker 3: having like an allergic reaction. They were called seventeen straight

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Speaker 3: run plays.

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Speaker 1: No, because you had the lead. I had no problem

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Speaker 1: they had the lead. I had no problem whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I was so excited at the booth. I'm like, this

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Speaker 3: is the greatest thing I've ever seen. And I text,

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Speaker 3: you know, I text, pressed, that's the game. I said,

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Speaker 3: that's an offensive lines dream right there. Seventeenth straight play

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Speaker 3: run plays like get physical, get after it, and I

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Speaker 3: thought the offensive line did a great job. Kunos to

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Speaker 3: Walker Little coming off the bench, I thought he I

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Speaker 3: didn't get to watch the tape Pete because I did,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't download it.

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Speaker 1: Was he was the best offensive lineman on the field.

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Speaker 3: He was physical. Though I watched him, I had my

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Speaker 3: eye on him once he came in, I thought, listen,

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Speaker 3: they don't have any pass rushers over there, so forget

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Speaker 3: about the pass walking. I didn't. I didn't expect that

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Speaker 3: front to get much pressure on Trevor. However, they have

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Speaker 3: some big, long individuals who are physical at times. I

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Speaker 3: thought Walker Little brought a physicality to the run game,

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Speaker 3: and they ran right behind him very effectively. It'll be

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Speaker 3: very interesting to see what happens now Cam had the concussion. Well,

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Speaker 3: he's in the protocol, so we'll see if he's back

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Speaker 3: by Green Bay this week. But let's say he's healthy.

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Speaker 3: I think you have a real decision because the physicality

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Speaker 3: and the way Walker Little played was very impressive to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he got to the second level.

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Speaker 1: I mean he came off his guy a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different times Tony on the tape and got to the

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Speaker 1: second level and keyed those runs.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he did a great job.

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Speaker 1: Look when I put on the tape this morning, I

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Speaker 1: went in with the open mind. How did he play?

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Speaker 1: He was the best offensive lineman on the field. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was close. And so it's a

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Speaker 1: good it's a good problem because I think you have

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 1: No. I mean, look, I got my tape, my tape

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Speaker 3: They should have kicked it. But the offensive line in

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Speaker 3: like a meeting when I'm wrong. Pete, I was wrong,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were wrong. Was wrong, you were wrong.

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Speaker 1: They were wrong. It makes no sense. He does eighteen eighteen,

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Speaker 5: The game's over.

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Speaker 3: But he let me tell you what. Pete is wrong.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I forget about attitude.

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Speaker 1: Attitude goes out to wind you right.

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Speaker 5: Stop telling him he's wrong too. I'm not talking just

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Speaker 3: Just to make myself feel good as an offensive lineman?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's capable of not doing it. I

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Speaker 2: I absolutely know that he's wrong.

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Speaker 5: You should have said, no, we're going to go kick

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Speaker 3: you Peene is wrong, dead wrong. But Patriots were right

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Speaker 3: going for two when they did, because you at that

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Speaker 3: Dead to rights. The receiver slipped. That is, it would

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Speaker 3: That too, and that's what I was dreading it. I

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Speaker 3: Everyone's negative around them. You know, one in five everyone's

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Speaker 3: It will be a zero three zero game. We'll see

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Speaker 2: We saw some fight, which was great.

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Speaker 6: It really meant a lie and I if me personally

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Speaker 6: And so that's what I feel like we did going

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Speaker 2: talking post game after the Jaguars got a win in London.

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Speaker 2: There only win in London because they lost the first

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Speaker 2: What was that play exactly?

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Speaker 3: You mean the little swing pass to so they it

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Speaker 1: Well, well you know what happened, Tony. He was on

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Speaker 3: He was on the left side. He was playing left

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Speaker 3: I don't think he did. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm almost one positive. If we could show the play,

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Speaker 1: But they finally listened to me on how to align

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Speaker 5: He's not a nickel. He's a safety. He should have

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Speaker 5: been playing safety all along.

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Speaker 3: He played a lot of nickel in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: But I know, but he's not a nickel. He's a safety.

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Speaker 1: That's what he is. He came into the league as

445
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Speaker 1: a safety. He's not a nickel. He's not a twitchy guy.

446
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Speaker 1: He's a safety. And and I personally think if it

447
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Speaker 1: was my team, this is how I would play it.

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Speaker 1: He'd be one of the safeties, Cisco would be the

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Speaker 1: other one, and I think I'd have my corners being

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Speaker 1: Monteric Brown and Campbell, and I played Jerryus Jones at

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Speaker 1: the nickel.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jerry's played nickel. Yesterday in Montera, they rotated all

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Speaker 3: three guys.

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Speaker 5: Rotate everybody hockey team.

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Speaker 1: Remember we never forget three plays in they took the

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Speaker 1: starting divisive line out three plays in.

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Speaker 3: I got nothing to say because I don't get it either.

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking, does anybody ever asked that guy why

459
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Speaker 1: he does that? Hey, Ryan, what the hell do you

460
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Speaker 1: rotate players like their hockey team for?

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Speaker 2: What does he say so that they're What was he

462
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Speaker 2: trying to say? I think he said two weeks ago

463
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Speaker 2: is because that has played them, so now they're ready

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Speaker 2: to go.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm a big believer play your best players

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Speaker 3: as much as you can. I agree, that's my theory.

467
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Speaker 5: But it was right.

468
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Speaker 1: The alignments are right, and and and by the way,

469
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Speaker 1: Monterak deserves to be on the field. He has earned

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Speaker 1: the right to be on that field, and just like

471
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Speaker 1: I think Ventre Miller has earned the right, particularly in

472
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Speaker 1: the run game, he's earned the right to be on

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Speaker 1: that field. But I think the alignment best alignments, and

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Speaker 1: one I just gave him because Jones looks like a

475
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Speaker 1: nickel corner.

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Speaker 5: Savage never was. He's a safety.

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Speaker 3: And I like what they did in the dime. You

478
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Speaker 3: can put Antonio Johnson down that linebacker level, right.

479
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Speaker 1: Which suits his skill set, right. I mean, I just

480
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Speaker 1: it's just an Armstead was so much more comfortable rushing

481
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Speaker 1: from the from the three technique.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what Pete is that gouldn't be because his

483
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Speaker 3: whole career he rushed as a three technique and sub.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they did a lot, a little bit

485
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Speaker 1: of a few different things though, Like they put Abdullah.

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Speaker 5: On the inside a couple of times.

487
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Speaker 3: Well they also put josh heinz Allen on the inside

488
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Speaker 3: and put up Due outside and put uh you know,

489
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Speaker 3: at the end of the game, Pete, he was rushing

490
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Speaker 3: three technique in a three point stance, and he had

491
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Speaker 3: Graziano outside. Sometimes he had a duel outside. Sometimes they

492
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Speaker 3: changed it up. I still think I thought I would

493
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Speaker 3: love to see Trayvon get some rushes at three technique

494
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Speaker 3: me too, just too.

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Speaker 2: And there was talk of this, and there was a

496
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Speaker 2: lot of.

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Speaker 3: And I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, but I'll tell you what when

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Speaker 1: when he and Arms sta are in side by side

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Speaker 1: over there rushing.

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Speaker 5: That's two big bodies coming after.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Now, And the funny thing I saw the

503
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Speaker 3: win rate for the Jaguars. Armstead was one, or maybe

504
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Speaker 3: it was for the league this weekend win rate Armstead

505
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Speaker 3: won or pressure rate one of the two. I got

506
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Speaker 3: thirty four percent and Josh Allen Heinz Allen was third.

507
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Speaker 3: I think, uh, some.

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Speaker 2: On has PFF has pass rush win win rate, Eric

509
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Speaker 2: Arms has thirty six percent, joshes An thirty one points.

510
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Speaker 3: Were they one and three in the league?

511
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Speaker 2: Yep, pass rush snaps.

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Speaker 3: Both of them. I mean, Josh heines Allen's getting a

513
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Speaker 3: lot of pressure.

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Speaker 1: Peat he's not getting sacks, I know.

515
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Speaker 3: And then and then trade Bon's not.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they don't get it. Usually don't get any

517
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Speaker 1: pressure on the inside.

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Speaker 3: And trade Bon's not getting a lot of like as

519
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Speaker 3: far as PFF, a lot of pressure. But he's getting

520
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Speaker 3: the sacks.

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Speaker 2: But when he gets there he gets yeah yeah.

522
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Speaker 3: Now, but the sack, if you look at the sack

523
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Speaker 3: he got, there was pressure inside so the quarterback couldn't

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Speaker 3: step up. Drake Bay dropped, he went backwards right, yep.

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Speaker 1: Right, and and by the way. I want to say this.

526
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Speaker 1: I thought Hamilton had his best game since he's been back. Hamilton, Yes,

527
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Speaker 1: I thought he was physical in the run game. I mean,

528
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Speaker 1: they're still not pushing the pocket in the middle of

529
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Speaker 1: that defense. But he was physical in the run game

530
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Speaker 1: and had his best game since he had that back issue.

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Speaker 3: I figured because they averaged the they averaged about a

532
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Speaker 3: yard per carry. They could not run the ball at all.

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Speaker 3: The Patriots. I thought the front seven did a great

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Speaker 3: job against the run, and that's what you have to

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Speaker 3: do against a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: For'sive line.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they're terrible, Pepe they start. That was their seventh

538
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Speaker 3: starting combination.

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Speaker 1: Of the year. Michael Jordan might be one of the

540
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Speaker 1: worst guards I've ever seen in my entire life.

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Speaker 3: He's a heck of a basketball player though indeed, yeah, yeah,

542
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Speaker 3: but he can't play guard.

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Speaker 1: That's that's you know. I used to give out a

544
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Speaker 1: Spinning Top Award each week to the worst offensive lineman

545
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Speaker 1: in the league, and then at the end of the

546
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Speaker 1: year he wanted. I think he wanted two or three

547
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Speaker 1: times when he was in Carolina, so he was the

548
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Speaker 1: winner of the entire year.

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Speaker 5: He won the award. He was awful. I mean, it's

550
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Speaker 5: just bad.

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Speaker 1: But but look credit to that front seven. They were

552
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Speaker 1: were more physical and Hamilton was better. Here's the question

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Speaker 1: I have a couple of them. Why did it take

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Speaker 1: so long to figure out the things that you needed

555
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Speaker 1: to do to play that defense when it was so

556
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Speaker 1: obvious staring in the face.

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Speaker 3: But okay, with timeout, go ahead. You said, A what's B?

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Speaker 1: Huh?

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Speaker 3: You said, why did it take so long to figure

560
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Speaker 3: out how to play that defense? A?

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Speaker 1: What was the B?

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Speaker 3: You're I assume you're gonna give us a B option?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? The B is the rotation? What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: So here's here's my question, Pete. They did what they

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Speaker 3: had to do. They won a game they're supposed to win.

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Speaker 3: Is it they played better or is it the Patriots

567
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Speaker 3: are that bad upfront? I mean, Jeff and I watch

568
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Speaker 3: the tape, We're like, this might be the worst offense

569
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Speaker 3: line we've seen all year. It is, And I think

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Speaker 3: the real test is the next four and starting with

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Speaker 3: Green Bay because green Bay is a good football team,

572
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Speaker 3: well coached. I'm not saying they're the best team in

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Speaker 3: the NFC or anything, but they're a good football team.

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Speaker 1: They're a good team and they got good offensive line, and.

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Speaker 3: They had a good offensive line. They have a good quarterback,

576
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Speaker 3: they have weapons outside, they have a good running back.

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Speaker 3: They have a pretty good defense too. I haven't studied

578
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Speaker 3: them yet. I mean they they took it to Houston.

579
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Speaker 3: They rushed, they harassed c. J. Stroud the whole game,

580
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Speaker 3: and it was a close game. But they and they,

581
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Speaker 3: but they got the victory with the last minute field goal.

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Speaker 1: Our old guy, no comment.

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Speaker 5: But by the way, let me ask you this too.

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Speaker 1: A couple other things we didn't talk about because Roy

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Speaker 1: robertson Harris, you know that whole thing happened. Yea after

586
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Speaker 1: the show last week. We were onto something when he

587
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Speaker 1: was playing in the preseason to.

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Speaker 5: There was something going on there.

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Speaker 1: We knew it. Here's the other part of that. Why

590
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Speaker 1: did the second round pick is a healthy scratch?

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Speaker 3: Here's the real thing, Pete. It's a great question because

592
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Speaker 3: the rookie second rounder, and you expect your second rounder

593
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Speaker 3: to contribute. That it's going to be a starter, but

594
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Speaker 3: you expect him to contribute. He is a second second

595
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Speaker 3: time this year, a healthy scratch, but healthy scratch. The

596
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Speaker 3: week you got rid of one of your core rotational

597
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Speaker 3: players and Roy Robinson, Harris and you brought up the

598
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Speaker 3: sixth round or whatever Jefferson was for the first time.

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Speaker 3: There's questions there like something's going on. They are unhappy. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you you don't healthy scratch your second rounder, especially when

601
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Speaker 3: you got rid of depth at that position during the week.

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Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 5: I just I would say that something happened on the trip.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not gonna say he was.

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Speaker 3: I don't Maybe I don't.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it's late for me.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's it, Pete. I don't think that.

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Speaker 5: Would be the better part of it.

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Speaker 1: That means the other part of it means he's not

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Speaker 1: very good and he has talent.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was because of disciplinary reasons.

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Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Because he just they

613
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Speaker 1: don't think he's very good. Well, there's also some talk

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Speaker 1: that the coach and the general manager different on that

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00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: one too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that either.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that one too.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna think it over during the break

620
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Speaker 2: coming up, we will talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 2: the defense. Also, big day from Tank again once again

622
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Speaker 2: stepping up with Traves, ytn out with an injury.

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Speaker 7: You don't get too many opportunities in this National Football League,

624
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Speaker 7: so when you get one, you have to take full

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Speaker 7: advantage of them and do it at your best ability.

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Speaker 7: And I felt like as we kept running the ball

627
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Speaker 7: that they got, the Patriots would get tired, and we

628
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Speaker 7: just got to keep going. And we've got to keep going,

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Speaker 7: to keep going, to keep going. And I just took

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Speaker 7: advantage though opportunities because on film to show like fourth quarter, come,

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Speaker 7: third quarter, come those guys will start arm tackling and

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Speaker 7: there starting loafing.

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Speaker 5: So we just did what we had to do when

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Speaker 5: those ops game.

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Speaker 2: Are you looking for the MVP of the truck game,

636
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: better check out twenty twenty four Ford f one fifty

637
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: loaded with the impressive capability and game changing tech that

638
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: you can dominate, workplay and everything in between. You can

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Speaker 2: test drive it at your local Ford dealer. Proud partner

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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Back here on Happy Hour victory Monday,

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Speaker 2: Tank bigsby another big day, taking full advantage of that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Travesy Dn, suffering a hamstring injury, wasn't able to go,

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Speaker 2: but Tank certainly was. Tony I'm pretty good day, I

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00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: know as an offensive lineman and you you were excited

645
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Speaker 2: for the run.

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Speaker 3: So I loved it. I love how they I think.

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Speaker 3: I think Press did a great job calling the game.

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00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: I think he got a feel for it, and he

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00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: saw his offensive line playing well. He saw both backs.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Artist Johnson ran the ball very well

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Speaker 3: in that game, and so the combination of Tank and

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Speaker 3: the Artist and an offensive line, I really like what

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Speaker 3: Press did. They had some good play action pass. Trevor

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Speaker 3: was on you know, spot on during the day, so

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Speaker 3: it was outstanding and I thought it was interesting. I

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Speaker 3: saw a Pro Football Talk and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: someone asked, but you know, Doug Peterson said that Travis

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Speaker 3: etn is still their number one back and he's the

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Speaker 3: head coach. That's his choice. I've said it, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not changing my tune because I've said this since the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the season. I said in the preseason, and

662
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: I got a lot of heat for it, at least

663
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: here locally. I think I think Bigsby's your best running back.

664
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's doing and I.

665
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: Think maybe I know why Doug is saying it the

666
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: way he is. What I believe is going to happen

667
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: is it's going to be more of a split and

668
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: they'll use Etn in the past game a little bit

669
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: more and kind of more to his skill set. But

670
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't believe it's it's going to turn into a

671
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: combo thing. I believe at some point.

672
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: Or or it could turn into trading trade deadline.

673
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying if you're the Dallas

674
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: cow if you're the Dallas Cowboys and you're supposed to

675
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: have this team that's going to be a playoff team

676
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: and you don't have a back that's worthy of that, why.

677
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: Don't you go make a move to go get a

678
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: guy like Etn?

679
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: What would you what would it take to get him?

680
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: Pete? Well, his contract is remember they picked up the

681
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: fifty year option, so he's got some cash on that contract.

682
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: It's not cheap. So four.

683
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I don't know. I'd be like a third,

684
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't know. If you're I don't know

685
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: if you're gonna get a third.

686
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: But but again, you got to look at that if

687
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: you're if you're Jacksonville, you have to look at that.

688
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: And definitely make if something.

689
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going to lose to the Packers.

690
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: But if they did lose to the Packers, then you

691
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: got to start looking at all your trade options as well.

692
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that's something you got to consider.

693
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: I would agree, but I would agree with that by

694
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: the way, I would agree with one. I would listen

695
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: right now too, if someone offered to me be a

696
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: third for sure for Travis. Yeah, but not just him.

697
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm talking about depending on what happens this week. I

698
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: think you do start listening even more.

699
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 5: Like camp Robinson, what do you do or walk little

700
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 5: one of them?

701
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: I would listen, no, no, bat doubt about it, because

702
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: both of both the free agents at the end of

703
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: the year.

704
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Kirk, I would listen, yep.

705
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 5: I think all those guys are in play for potential.

706
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: Now it all depends and hopefully we win this week,

707
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: and now you're okay, let's wait in another week. Let's

708
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: see where this thing goes. And they're more than capable

709
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: of winning this week if they play good football. But

710
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: I'll go back to it. I said it before the

711
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 3: game with the Patriots. I think Tank Bigsby, you need

712
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: to give him twenty plus carries. I think he's he

713
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: gets better as the game goes on. I think he's physical,

714
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: and I would give Tank Bigsby twenty plus carries a game.

715
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: That's what I would do.

716
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Yep, So okay, give him twenty you're gonna give Etn

717
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: six or seven? Then? Basically sure? And dearnest ran pretty well?

718
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: Ye ran great.

719
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean that's another.

720
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Reason why you trade Etn. So let me ask you

721
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: this when as it relates to the running back position,

722
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: do you ping them for wasting a first round pick

723
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: on Etn? Do you give him credit for taking Bigsby

724
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: when they had him in the in the what round?

725
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: Did he come there? A third?

726
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: Third?

727
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you give it? So you get it's probably

728
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: a combination of both of them.

729
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: I want to be consistent because I think Travis CTN

730
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: is a good player. But even when I thought he

731
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: was the best back on this team and thought he

732
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: was a very good player, I would never I would

733
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: not have drafted him in the first round. Not because

734
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: it's Travis Etn. There was no back I would have

735
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: drafted in the first round.

736
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: No, it's not worth it.

737
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: Because I think you can get good backs like Tank

738
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: Span Tink Bigsby late in the second, third, and fourth round. Right,

739
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: that's right, that's my I'm not saying I'm right, but

740
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: that's my.

741
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 5: Third No, you're right.

742
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: No, you're right, and I'm never going to admit that

743
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: out loud, but you're right.

744
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: Thank you.

745
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: Uh, you don't draft backs in the first round. You

746
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: find him anywhere there, you pull them off the shelf.

747
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I always like to say, boom, there's another one, and

748
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: so you kill them for taking him in the first round,

749
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: but you give him credit for finding the guy when

750
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: he did find him in the third round. So I

751
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: think it's a combination of too one quick note. I

752
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: went back and watched the play. I was right, Tony.

753
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: He lined up at right defensive end. The back was

754
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: on the lined up offset on the right side of

755
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: the offensive formation. So for him to even get over

756
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: there and try and cover him, he has to clear

757
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: run across the formation to get over there. It's a terrible,

758
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: terrible coverage and I don't know how they put him

759
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: in that situation.

760
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, that makes me feel better because

761
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: I thought he just took a bad drop because.

762
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: He went all the way across the field and Trayvon

763
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: kind of chirped up and said it was on him.

764
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: So I'm wondering I order. He was supposed to drop

765
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: when he saw the running back was on his side

766
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: and he did it. I wonder it looked like something

767
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: went wrong.

768
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: I wonder if both of them are supposed to drop.

769
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: And then the other part of that is Cisco made

770
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: it lazy, terrible play on that play. And you know,

771
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: for a guy who calls people call people out for

772
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: quitting last week, he looked like he was loafing and

773
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: then realized that the tackle wasn't going to be made

774
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: and had to try and get over there, and the

775
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: guy just made a move on him. Look, you're gonna

776
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: call people out for quitting, you better go full all

777
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: out all the time. And he didn't on that play.

778
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw it at the game.

779
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: I did not see it obviously. I did not see

780
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: it live because I got I didn't see the Josh

781
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, or I forgot being uh in London. I

782
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: tried to download the tape but it had not been

783
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 3: uploaded to the cloud last night and then I flew

784
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: home today.

785
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: No, Tony was out on the town. He wasn't watching films.

786
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: No, that's not true, guy. I was in my room

787
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: trying to download it to my iPad. It was no, No,

788
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: I was not drinking tea. I did not go to

789
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: bed early. I didn't say that, but.

790
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: God when I said that about Cisco, so you noticed

791
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: it too.

792
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel the safety tackling in general, it's

793
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: been good, and for me that's been hard. Part of

794
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: the hardest part obviously, you know, the cornerbacks are gonna

795
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 2: beat that's fine. The safeties they don't look like they're

796
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: giving any effort, and Cisco look kind of slow compared

797
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: to what we've seen him do before. It's funny, and

798
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: I know people have said that about Josh kind of

799
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: bulking up too. They don't have that speed burst that

800
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: we saw at times last year, and I don't know

801
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 2: if that's purposeful or it.

802
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: Does not look like a fast defense.

803
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Which is what they kind of Obviously they've had issues.

804
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: The secondaries had issues both years, but at least last

805
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: year you could force turnovers. For the first half of

806
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: the season, they haven't been able to do that. So

807
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: now it's just like these long processions.

808
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: Dropped interception and now he made a very nice breakup

809
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 3: on the Polk play.

810
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: Yep, right before was that right before Parker's kick?

811
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a very nice place.

812
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: That's the tackling look you're gonna have. They have tackled poorly,

813
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have some mistackles. But his effort wasn't great.

814
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: And I can't I can't comment on his effort because

815
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: I didn't get to watch the tape. But that's disappointing.

816
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: And I trust you because you do watch the tape.

817
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: And obviously KAI saw it live. I did not notice

818
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 3: that live. I was in shock that somehow Josh Allen

819
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: was I thought it was so late dropping. I'm like,

820
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: oh my goodness. Anyway, that's ridiculous. That makes no sense

821
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: to me. It makes more sense now Treyvon said he

822
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 3: made a mistake, so obviously there was a mix up.

823
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that is plagued this

824
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: defense of guys getting lined up correctly and doing their

825
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: job correctly. So that's concerning because again, the Patriots are

826
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: a bad offense. So I just want to say this,

827
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: they're the worst offense in the NFL. So I am

828
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: really happy we won that game. But boyl boy, you

829
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: gotta clean that stuff up because here comes Green Bay,

830
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: who is not the worst offense in the NFL. I

831
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: don't know where they're ranked. I haven't watched any tape,

832
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: but that is you gotta clean that stuff up. It

833
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: goes back to and we talked about this in the pregame,

834
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: UH in the broadcast, and I said it like the

835
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: key of the game, like before you can start, before

836
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: you can start worrying about winning, like stop beating yourself.

837
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: Like the first thing you do is you don't beat yourself.

838
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: It's hard to win in the NFL. It's impossible if

839
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: you're beating yourself. And so that's got to get cleaned up.

840
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: UH.

841
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: Coming in down the stretch. You have a tough stretch

842
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: of four games starting with Green Bay here and they

843
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: don't and you know, I believe they're off today because

844
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 3: of the travel. I believe they're in tomorrow. And you

845
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 3: got to have really good work on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

846
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: getting ready for this Sunday game. It's a big game

847
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: because if you get to three and five, it's different,

848
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: it's a different feeling.

849
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: That, yeah, you start feeling a little better about yourself

850
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: and maybe gain some momentum. You're right, I mean a

851
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: Luakan they say might be back this week.

852
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: I think he's it's possible. I haven't heard anything.

853
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: They have made They haven't made him available. I mean,

854
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: they haven't opened the window they yet.

855
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: He traveled with the team and obviously he was working,

856
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: rehabbing and whatnot.

857
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: But I think he's back. He starts starts with him Miller.

858
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: You can't take Ventral Miller off the field. He's your

859
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: best linebacker.

860
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

861
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 5: I think he has to stay on the field.

862
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm curious if they will that.

863
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: That is why that's interesting, is because you're admitting a mistake.

864
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: Then forget about the mistake, Tony.

865
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 5: We're in the same ballpark. You're preaching to the choir.

866
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know how you know how this

867
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: league works.

868
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know good teams do, Pete. They put

869
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: the best players in the field. They put the guys

870
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: will give you the best chance of winning. And right now,

871
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: your best linebacker is Ventro Miller. I don't care where

872
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: he was drafted. I don't care where everyone else is drafted.

873
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: I don't care what picks you trained to pick other people.

874
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't care what you're paying other people. Vent Trel

875
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: Miller is your best linebacker.

876
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: And and so what do you do with Lloyd? Let

877
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: him rotate? In with the hockey players.

878
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 3: Put him at Sam. I think he's a Sam. Anyways,

879
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: he's a strong he's a strong line linebacker. That's what

880
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: he is.

881
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: And sit Mouma down.

882
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 5: That's what you do.

883
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: That would started on My starting lineup would be Ventre

884
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: uh Foyer, figure out who's Mike, Who's well, I don't

885
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: care whatever the other one does. Whatever each one does better.

886
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: Foyer can play both. He's smart, he's I'm not saying

887
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: the other guys are dombe, but Foyer is one of

888
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: the smartest players in the league. And then put put

889
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: put Devin Lloyd at Sam. That's what he played. He

890
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: was on the line linebacker, and call like put him there.

891
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: He's long, he's physical.

892
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: I think he plays and he's terrible in coverage.

893
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: He plays the run. He plays the run well.

894
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: He hadn't kids plays to run really well.

895
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: But he's terrible in coverage.

896
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: And he did a good job in the run against

897
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: the Patriots.

898
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: That means he's only on the field.

899
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: What Okay, put your best players out there, or at

900
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: least the guy's playing the.

901
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Best right now. The choir is exactly what I would do.

902
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: It's not that hard, peat, it's not Let's not make

903
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: this more complicated. Let's not get into who got draft.

904
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: And where and we traded.

905
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: I don't I'm paying this guy this and stop. Who

906
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: cares that? Will?

907
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 5: I guarantee you there's somebody in that building that will

908
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: do that.

909
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: You know, the only thing that matters. So we talk

910
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: like analytics are a big deal, though, aren't they. There's

911
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: more analytics out there, and they're valuable and they tell

912
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: you a lot and you learn a lot from analytics.

913
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the most important analytics in the NFL.

914
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: It's called wins and losses because they tell you who

915
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: you are, and that determines people's jobs at the end

916
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: of the year, and that determines if you get a

917
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: chance to play for the Lombardi Trophy. All that matters.

918
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: You can you can talk about analytics until you're blue

919
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: in the face. And I think they're important. I think

920
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: we should take advantage of it and understand it and

921
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: make decisions and learn from it and all that. I

922
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: love it. I love what But let me tell you

923
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: the most important and the only one that mattered, and

924
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: it should influence every desci decision you make in an organization,

925
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: from how you travel, how you practice, who you sign,

926
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: what you do, what you eat, where you sleep, what

927
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 3: your everything is. Wins and losses, Whatever gives you the

928
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: best chance of winning. That's who you put on the field,

929
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: that nothing else else. I don't care when you drafted them,

930
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: I don't care how much money you paid them, if

931
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: you made a mistake, whatever, it's over. Who gives you

932
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: the best chance of winning. That's it.

933
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Wins and losses. And you know what else wins and

934
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: losses does? It tells you you're getting flexed or flexed

935
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: out of Sunday Night football.

936
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: We're all getting our Sunday evening back.

937
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, weeks ago, that's I.

938
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: Told you guys, we're gonna flexed. Yeah, it's been back

939
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: to back years we've been flexing Sunday Night. As someone

940
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: who loves this order, I believe we got flex last.

941
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: Year too play Sunday Night.

942
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: The Ravens played, They played the ravensday.

943
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: I thought we got.

944
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: Flexed later before we had completely faun apart.

945
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: Now we were.

946
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: We played.

947
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: Actually the Sunday Night game is the number one seed

948
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Speaker 1: in the that's.

949
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: Right, we're talking about it. Buy at that point, Well,

950
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: do we have to.

951
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: Talk this year? I don't like that. It's not a

952
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: good look. You don't want to be flexed. That means

953
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: you're not a good team.

954
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Never.

955
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: All right, we're heading into break. We'll talk a little

956
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 2: bit of more, got some coaching advice for both Tony

957
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: and Pete, and we'll talk a little bit more about

958
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Speaker 2: that fourth down. Doug Peterson loves to go for it

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Speaker 2: on fourth Stay with us here on Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 3: To go back to the decision.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was riding the momentum of what we

963
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 4: were doing leading up to that point. Our offensive line

964
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: was was really you know, taking control of the game

965
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: at that point, and I felt like just putting it

966
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: in their hands one more time, getting the first down

967
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 4: right there and potentially you know, ice the game at

968
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: that point. But they went down, scored, we get the

969
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: ball back, and you still got to play football, and.

970
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: That's this is just a message.

971
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 4: You still got to continue to play, and we were

972
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Speaker 4: able to do that.

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976
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: was riding the momentum. Tony Beselli said he would ride

977
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: the momentum. This is this is amidst all the run

978
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: plays back to back to back to back.

979
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: Yep, I admitted I was wrong.

980
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: And they didn't convert. I mean, if they convert, we

981
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: never talked about it.

982
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 3: But that's why Pete would have talked about it. Still,

983
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: that's his credit. He would have He's consistent.

984
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: Is that an analytics thing or is that just Doug

985
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 2: being Doug.

986
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: That's just Doug being Doug. Because the analytics will tell

987
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: you to kick the field goal.

988
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: You always go up three possessions.

989
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 5: I mean, if it's in the if it's in the

990
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 5: first half or whatever.

991
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: Maybe, but in that situation, you have to go up

992
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: three because are they even gonna Are they even going

993
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: to get three possessions the rest of the game?

994
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: Probably not.

995
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think he made a major mistake there,

996
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: and and and I think if he pinned him down

997
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: on it, he would admit he made a mistake.

998
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: I did. I made a mistake, not that I had

999
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: anything to do with them, but I didn go for it.

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00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you should never have a damn headset

1001
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: on your head.

1002
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 3: No, that's not true, Pete. There's probably other reasons I shouldn't,

1003
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: but that's not the one of them.

1004
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: That's not the key one.

1005
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: There's more important ones than that.

1006
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: You know, somebody needs to talk him down sometimes, that's

1007
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 5: that's part of the problem.

1008
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: He needs a guy, said that, Tony. I've said that

1009
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: for years. They need to have an analytics guy standing

1010
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: right next to him saying, don't do it, do not

1011
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: do it, don't do it, Doug.

1012
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: You know who makes you know who else in the

1013
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: NFL makes calls like that sometimes?

1014
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: Who's this?

1015
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: Probably the guy coaching the best team in the NFL,

1016
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell.

1017
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: And here's the thing about Dan Campbell doing it.

1018
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: You don't need to do it anymore.

1019
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 3: No he doesn't. But that's who.

1020
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean.

1021
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Well he didn't, then they didn't go to the super

1022
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: Bowl too.

1023
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, right, he cost him a chance to go

1024
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl because of.

1025
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: His I'm not saying right or wrong, but I'm just saying,

1026
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: that's another guy who does it. So I'm saying Doug's

1027
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: not the only coach here.

1028
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 5: And here's the thing.

1029
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: When you're a young team coming up like the Lions,

1030
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: the coach needs to do things like that, to try

1031
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: and instill some culture and some belief and everything. When

1032
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: you're good team like the Lions.

1033
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 5: You don't need to do it.

1034
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: That guy faked the punt his own end last night

1035
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: yesterday on the twenty something yard line and he got

1036
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: stuffed and they got a touchdown two plays later.

1037
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: You don't do You don't need to do that, and

1038
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: they still won.

1039
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, pretty easily good.

1040
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: They're really good. Just to clean something up. Obviously, guys

1041
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: were right. We did not get flex last year. I

1042
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: was thinking of. I was thinking of twenty eighteen after

1043
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: we had a really good twenty seventeen. It was the

1044
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: first Sunday night game we'd had in a long time,

1045
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: and we got flexed in eighteen, so.

1046
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: We've been doing good. We had all those primetime games

1047
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: last year, one this year, all of them, all of them.

1048
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: You know what they need to do on Thursday night football, everyone.

1049
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: Pretty much everyone.

1050
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: Has except for us Monday Monday and then you get

1051
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: their two London games, so technically national.

1052
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 3: We're not going to say that I do not consider

1053
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 3: London games national.

1054
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, last year when last time we had Monday night football,

1055
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: when I got here, people I said something on Monday Football,

1056
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, and they were like, oh, we've never

1057
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: like we don't have it. I'm like, oh, we we.

1058
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: Used to all the time.

1059
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 5: You get they should tell NBC.

1060
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: Look, if you're gonna put us on Sunday Night Football,

1061
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: make sure it's like in the first month, then we

1062
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: can't mess it up.

1063
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: We can't get flexed. Yeah that's fair enough. Yeah, it's

1064
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: just it's disappointing getting flexed. I just hate it because

1065
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's a down, or because it just

1066
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: kind of speaks to the season you're having. I mean,

1067
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: it's not the end of the world or anything. I mean,

1068
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: go win, go.

1069
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: In, go in, go win four in a row and

1070
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: maybe you'll get something flex back in. Yeah.

1071
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, go win four and oh you're six and five.

1072
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: My goodness, that would change a lot of things. Interesting.

1073
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: We love a comeback story. Everybody does.

1074
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's get let's get it. Are you locking it?

1075
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna lock to that?

1076
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. And I do want to apologize for the

1077
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: double lock.

1078
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 3: Wells Kay's fault. She double lock. My single locks are

1079
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: never wrong. Kai screwed it up.

1080
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: It was all my fun, all right.

1081
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 5: When we come back.

1082
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Speaker 2: We'll talk are another victory Monday for Jaguars Happy Hour

1083
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Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us in the Jaguars Digital Network today.

1084
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Speaker 8: With us, they were in basically cover four quarters look

1085
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 8: and safeties were low, and that was honestly the look

1086
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 8: we were wanting for that play, and we had another

1087
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 8: option if that wasn't the coverage and the situation. But

1088
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 8: Brian did a great job of just running at the corner,

1089
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 8: keeping outside leverage and just running and then I'd put

1090
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 8: it out there and let him go make a players

1091
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 8: a great catch. You know, he's he's good. He's been

1092
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 8: making a lot of plays for us, so it's it's

1093
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 8: fun to watch him. It's fun to play with them

1094
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 8: and just to see him get better every week. We

1095
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 8: got to keep using them.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into our second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: It's brought to you by zip Chair Jaguars fans. If

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Speaker 2: Happy Hour, Jaguar's got to win this. Another victory Monday

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Speaker 2: for them, a win over the Patriots in their second

1104
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: game in London. So they're coming back from London one

1105
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: and one and Trevor Lawrence right there talking about his

1106
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: throw to Brian Thomas Junior over the middle, which was

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00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 2: the prettiest throw I've seen in quite some time from him.

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00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 2: Just a great connection between both of them and only

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00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: a couple of games so far the season, so yeah.

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00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: And that's that's one of those. That's one of those

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00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: examples of everyone on the play doing a great job,

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00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: including Gonzalez.

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00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: The corner, who's amazing. So that even better because he

1114
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: played it perfectly as well.

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00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: So it was great protection, great play call, so they

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00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: got the right play call, off play action pass, good

1117
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: job up front, great job by Trevor recognizing the coverage

1118
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: and making it just a perfect throw. The athletic ability

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00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: in the route by Brian Thomas Junior outstanding. It was

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00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: really good coverage and you watch that in slow motion,

1121
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: like the fact that Gonzales his arms right there and

1122
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: the concentration by Brian to bring it in with a

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00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: perfect throw. It was just one of those rare football

1124
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: plays like if you're Christian Gonzalez. It's like I made

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00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: everything he could. I it's a perfect throw against a

1126
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: really good young receiver. It's really fast, and I made

1127
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: a play on the ball. I just missed it by

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00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 3: an inch. Brian made a better play because he had

1129
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: better He had great concentration looking all the way in

1130
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: with the It was just it was a really it

1131
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: was a great play and a great play call. And

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00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: I give a lot of credit to Trevor and Brian

1133
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 3: for executing.

1134
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: Well done and executing it is one thing.

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00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 5: But the best part about that is calling it.

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00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: Are you complimenting the play calling?

1137
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: I am I know I got a whole list of

1138
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: critical critical play calling over here, But.

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00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: People, what did you not like about the play calling?

1140
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: Except for the fourth down? I thought the play calling

1141
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: was outstanding on Sunday probably.

1142
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: Let me let me see, No, the runs are fine.

1143
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: I like the runs. I didn't have any problem with that.

1144
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: What about when they.

1145
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 3: Went back to bubbles?

1146
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: I know it was it.

1147
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: Was no, it was it was bubble screen to the left.

1148
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: Yep, it was bubble screen to the left to the

1149
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, then bubble screen, and then.

1150
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: It was a reverse to Brian Thomas and then it

1151
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: was another bubble screen to Evan Ingram, four straight plays.

1152
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was bubble reverse

1153
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: written down somewhere in here.

1154
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was bubble reverse bubbles what I thought it.

1155
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: Was when the game there was four?

1156
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 5: No, there was four of them? Was it really four?

1157
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: Yes? And it made me puke. I'm watching that, I'm like,

1158
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: what is this garbage?

1159
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I thought it was third quarter?

1160
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: It was, and I wrote it down to where did

1161
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 5: I put it?

1162
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't count beat. If you can't remember it, you're out.

1163
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: You can't criticize it. You don't have it, You're you're

1164
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: You're like a mad scientist. You can't find his notes.

1165
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 5: Well, because I got notes on everything.

1166
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: He's very well researched. We'll give him that.

1167
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: Very very disorganized though.

1168
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 5: No, but I because I have notes on other stuff.

1169
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 5: I'm organized.

1170
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: No, there's don't give any credits this organization. Poor professional

1171
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: third quarter, third quarter, bubble screen.

1172
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 9: To Thomas, bubblescreen, bubble screen left to Thomas, bubble screen

1173
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 9: right to Thomas, reverse to Thomas, bubble to Ingram.

1174
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Poor straight You see that guy on the place.

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00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: They liked it. They like to look it's awful. Now

1176
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: in fairness depressed.

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00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: Okay, fairness, they picked up one first down with it.

1178
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: What else Trevor Lawrence bailed him out on the second

1179
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: little grouping over there because he uh, he had to

1180
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: scramble for whatever yards he scrambled for on that one play.

1181
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 3: But one of the just so you know, one of

1182
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 3: those bubbles was not called. It was checked too, because, uh,

1183
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: the Jaguars offense had the Patriots out leveraged with trips

1184
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 3: and that I believe that's the one Brian Thomas got

1185
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: the first down, so they they had out leveraged the

1186
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: Patriots defense. Hold on, they finished, let me finish. A

1187
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: different play was called. Trevor at the line of scrimm

1188
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: is checked to it. So that's not on press. That's

1189
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: a check by the quarterback based on a look.

1190
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: It was success.

1191
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 5: Is it a run pass option? Is that what it is?

1192
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: No, he checked at the line of scrimmage. He saw something.

1193
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: They had a look where they had out leveraged the defense.

1194
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it looked like so they some of those

1195
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: are run pass options.

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00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's no doubt about that.

1197
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: But I think anyway, the reverses, those little those reverses.

1198
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Gotta stopped to just throw the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: You got a big arm quarterback and he a wide receiver,

1200
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: runs like a gazelle throwing the damn ball down the field.

1201
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: He does, My goodness, and the fact that.

1202
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: He could run the way he runs.

1203
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 5: Kirk's play were I think, you know, God, you said that.

1204
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: Was such a beautiful throw, and it was a beautiful

1205
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: throw to to Brian Thomas.

1206
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 5: The throw to Kirk was phenomenal.

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00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: From a quarter pill. Yes. Yeah, we had to put

1208
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: that perfectly over the linebacker and put it in a

1209
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: spot where the safety can't come up and blast him.

1210
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: Those open up because Thomas has the ability to go

1211
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: down the field and Tony.

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00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: Well the other way. To be clear, the other reason

1213
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 3: that opened up it was off play action fake It

1214
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: held the linebackers long enough to create the space.

1215
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: I get it, but they hadn't they hadn't really run

1216
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 5: the ball.

1217
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 3: But the action held them.

1218
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, I agree with you.

1219
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: You can use play action if you can if you

1220
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: do get the run game going. I liked play action,

1221
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: but shots with play action I like that, And and

1222
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: you know what they ran into, you know, in another thing,

1223
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit for I'm gonna give another more credit.

1224
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm giving them credit. Why ripping them for the four?

1225
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 3: This is good. I like this positive with not.

1226
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 5: A bunched up formation on the goal line.

1227
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you like that spread. Look I wanted them to

1228
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: get up under center and.

1229
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: Just pound like an offensive lineman.

1230
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: That's all that is?

1231
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: Well okay, at least I'm honest. Yes, you're right, that's

1232
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: what I wanted to do. I'm not saying, but can

1233
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 3: they do that with the personality? Have no but pete

1234
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: in fairness, that's how everyone used to do it. More

1235
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: people do it the way you like it.

1236
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: Now.

1237
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 3: I see more people in shotguns spread out on first

1238
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: and goal from the one than I do getting up

1239
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 3: in big people.

1240
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, it's getting that way, but it's

1241
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 5: still not.

1242
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: This team doesn't do it enough. I don't think. I think,

1243
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: considering the troubles they've had in short yardist situations, they

1244
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: should do it more.

1245
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 10: Fair And you know one other thing you mentioned earlier, Tony,

1246
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 10: the fielding to punt inside the five that has become

1247
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 10: an epid demic in the NFL.

1248
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: Remember it used to be you put your heels on

1249
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: the ten.

1250
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let it go everybody's fielding punts inside the inside

1251
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: the ten and even at the five. You know the Packers.

1252
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: When you watch the tape of the Packers next week,

1253
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: they did it. Romeo Dobbs fielded up No, no, the

1254
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: other kid, the slot corner fielded a punt. The slot

1255
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: receiver fielded a punt at the three yard line three yesterday.

1256
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: But when he fielded it and it was like an

1257
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 3: over the shoulder ketch him was because it was a

1258
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: boomy punt. Yeah, and like so his his momentum was

1259
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: taking him in the wrong direction.

1260
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is he doing?

1261
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: And it went and then halfway through him, like thank goodness.

1262
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: Actually wasn't over the shoulder, but.

1263
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 1: It was this is this is I mean this one

1264
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: he I don't when you look at this one and

1265
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: you say, okay, why is he fielding it there?

1266
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 5: He feeled that because he saw that it was a

1267
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 5: giant hole right in front of him.

1268
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: Were the Patriots playing with eight guys on the field

1269
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 3: because no one even got near them. No, it was

1270
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 3: so well blocked. But those are.

1271
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: But it also goes to this part of the equation,

1272
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: why the hell did you spend all that money on

1273
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: Devin DuVernay. Anything, give me something on that they knew

1274
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: they had this kid and he was a returner.

1275
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if they trust I don't think the

1276
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: trust is there. I think the trust is there.

1277
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: Now.

1278
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: Do they trust him?

1279
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: Now? That's how you find returners. You draft them, develop them,

1280
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: and trust them. Here's here's where I think this came

1281
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: into play. Ready, you know what I think. I think

1282
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: they overthought it. And here's why. I think they thought.

1283
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: If they get Dubernay, they're gonna be ahead of the

1284
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: curve on the kickoff rules, and we're gonna have two

1285
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: guys and we're gonna set the trend and this and

1286
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: this and this and everything else, and the reality is

1287
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: all anybody does on those kickoffs boom.

1288
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: I think they definitely overestimated. I don't know if just

1289
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 2: the Dagwars, but I think everybody kind of did what

1290
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: this kick was gonna do.

1291
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: I know the thinking of that. I know the thinking.

1292
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 5: That's what that.

1293
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: Thinking had to be, because there's no way you're giving

1294
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: if you knew this kid could do with that, and

1295
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: we saw glimming.

1296
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: Little or you saw in the preseason. You saw the

1297
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: great kickoff return the first preseason.

1298
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: Because he was doing all the kickoff the preseason.

1299
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: So bottom line is they wasted the money on Devin

1300
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: dover Day.

1301
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: How much are they paying, Pete.

1302
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: I remember it's like two years and like eight million,

1303
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: eight and a half million or something like that.

1304
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: So too much four year?

1305
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, no bang for the buck.

1306
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: We don't know that yet. He had a great return,

1307
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: had a great return in the gameturner.

1308
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: You don't pay a returner.

1309
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: They paid him in today's money, not a lot of money, Pete.

1310
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: And he had by the hand sitting on the bench.

1311
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but dun is a good return and he helped

1312
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 3: us win the game against the Colts with a great return.

1313
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: That's set up a touchdown returner.

1314
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: You were so negative, Pete. We won the day game.

1315
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: We got a couple of compliments.

1316
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we've been so negative on this show because

1317
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: they deserved it. Like now you're still attacking, give me

1318
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: a blank.

1319
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 5: I'm a realist. Somebody's got to bring some levity to

1320
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 5: the program.

1321
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: When you're waving your bomp bombs.

1322
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: Up levity, Well, there's a difference between realism and levity.

1323
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: If you're lefty means you're joking, joking. There's no joking

1324
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: with you. You're serious, Pete.

1325
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: You like him as a returner, and you talk about

1326
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 2: Kirk being available if someone calls about it. Do you

1327
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 2: feel like Parker can fill that role right now?

1328
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: Yes? I do.

1329
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 5: I don't.

1330
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: I don't.

1331
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Look, he's not going to be Christian Kirk. But if

1332
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: somebody makes an offer to you it's desperate for a

1333
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

1334
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: Well, it depends. Tell me what happens this week first, guys,

1335
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: can we like it like we won a game? If

1336
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: we win this week, let's wait.

1337
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Tony always got to be prepared for every scenario.

1338
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: Well, I'm prepared, but I'm trying to like hang in

1339
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: there because it's been a miserable year so far, and

1340
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: trying to hang in there that we can find a

1341
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: way to beat the Pas, A good team. Yeah, I

1342
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 3: think I'm trying to do. I'm not saying, Pete, I

1343
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: agree with you. If you lose this week, the phone's

1344
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: ring and I'm listening. But until then, I'm holding off,

1345
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: unless obviously, if someone comes off.

1346
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: What do you listen? What are you listening to? You

1347
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: getting calls for what? I don't know? You got something

1348
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: to tell us?

1349
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying I was I was speaking to what

1350
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: you were saying.

1351
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 5: Are you leaving the program on us?

1352
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: What do you know?

1353
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere. I'm saying. I'm going back to

1354
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: what you said. If people call you, listen, if you

1355
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 3: lose this game. That's what we said the last hour.

1356
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: Am I not right? Am I wrong about that?

1357
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: By the way, Jacksonville, leave me alone. I know nothing.

1358
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: So that's all I'm gonna say on that.

1359
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: Can me too? You drug me into this, Pete.

1360
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: I didn't drag anybody into anything.

1361
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1362
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: Somebody made a fake d M or something and I

1363
00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: had nothing to be out of it. I think it's

1364
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: you know what I really believe that is.

1365
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: I think that's.

1366
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: Wishful thinking on a lot of people's parts. I'll be

1367
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: honest with you.

1368
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Jags, big victory, Green Bay. We got,

1369
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: we know what we need to do. What are we

1370
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: keeping it real?

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01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: We're keeping it real very soon shortly eventually, remember going

1372
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: to keep it real about you know what?

1373
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: Offensive line? The offensive line played great, Walker Little played great.

1374
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: Mitch Morris, who's been their best offensive line, and at

1375
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: his worst.

1376
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: Game Cleveland was okay, not great, and he had a

1377
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: couple of like on the fourth on the fourth and

1378
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: one was ugly, fourth one abused. One of those plays,

1379
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: sherif some good moments of bad moments, and I thought

1380
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Harrison was actually pretty good.

1381
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I saw live and I saw the

1382
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: replay of the Cleveland play on the fourth and one.

1383
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 3: I looked at Logavan and I said, I've been there before.

1384
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: That's one of those plays. When it happens, you're like,

1385
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: I hope that play gets cut out of the film

1386
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: because I don't want to watch that ever again. It's like,

1387
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: there's certain plays as an offensive lineman, and anyone who's

1388
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: played the position, anyone the greatest, the guys in the

1389
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, to guys who get one, you know,

1390
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: play just one season. If you've ever played the position,

1391
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. You've been in a

1392
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: situation where you have a play in a game and

1393
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: the first thought is you're like, oh no, that's on tape.

1394
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't want to ever see that again because it's

1395
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: just a bad play. You're at a position, maybe get

1396
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: too high, you get pushed. It's just it's miserable. And

1397
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: I think Ezra Cleveland's played playing good football this year.

1398
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: And he had a good game in a lot of areas.

1399
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 3: Yes, And I watched him in the run game. They

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01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: ran left into it behind him and Luke. I mean.

1401
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 5: They did a great job on their doubles.

1402
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: Yes, doubles. You thought we didn't hear that changed it

1403
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: to Walker. But here's the other thing. Tony and he

1404
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 3: had some great polls. On the touchdown, he had a

1405
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: great poll I mean so, but that was a bad one.

1406
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: A couple of them though, like on that. I think

1407
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: it was on the fourth down run, the third down run.

1408
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: The same thing shows up that we get annoyed about.

1409
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 5: Anton has to.

1410
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: Watch on his man's watching his guy. Remember his guy

1411
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: came down the line and kind of got the legs

1412
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: of the guy as he on the back before he

1413
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: can really get going.

1414
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Speaker 5: They gotta they gotta be careful of that.

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01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: They do that a lot buying tickets. Can we I'm

1416
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: keeping it real, can we? Cause we uh, let's talk

1417
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 3: about the Green Bay game. I want to hear from.

1418
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 2: You, Pete, because you want producer over here.

1419
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm asking you want I've watched a little bit. I've

1420
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: not watched the tape. You watch a lot more of

1421
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: these teams. You know, week in and week out, how

1422
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: does this team how do because we haven't beat a

1423
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 3: We beat the Colts, but by three they were beat up.

1424
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 3: But this is We're playing a good football team this week. Yes,

1425
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: playoff caliber team.

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: Pete.

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01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: What does this team need to do to be We.

1428
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: Are going to do that after the break round absolutely

1429
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: around the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour and victory Monday,

1430
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: will keep it real, send it by mister Chubby's wings.

1431
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 8: Again.

1432
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 4: We got in a situation where we were down, you know,

1433
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 4: we were down ten, but but nobody was like, you know,

1434
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: here we go again, or defeated or you know, had

1435
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 4: negative thoughts. It was just just one play at a

1436
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 4: time or work ourselves back in it. And and offense

1437
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 4: went out and we we showed the complimentary aspect of

1438
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 4: the game today, you know, in all three phases.

1439
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: And that's what it.

1440
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: That's what it. You know.

1441
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 4: I'm uh the spark that you know, hopefully we can

1442
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 4: get this thing going.

1443
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:56,919
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1444
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,440
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1445
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,160
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1447
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: in for JP Shadrick, who's traveling back from London as

1448
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: we speak, Tony to SELLI, Pete Prisco, we are going

1449
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: to keep it real at your request today, We're going

1450
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: to keep it real about this game against the Packers.

1451
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 1: Pete.

1452
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you because I know you watch

1453
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: all the league, all the games. Is it realistic if

1454
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: this team doesn't make mistakes? Can they beat the Packers

1455
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: this coming week?

1456
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: Well, they better be better on the back end defending

1457
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: the pass. This is a good pass offense, and I

1458
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: don't we haven't still haven't seen the best of it

1459
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: yet because Jordan Love was coming off that knee injury

1460
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: and for a couple of weeks he was kind of

1461
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: dragging a little bit. But you're starting to see little

1462
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: bits and pieces where he looks like Jordan Love again

1463
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: from last year. And they have good receivers. Christian Watson

1464
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: can fly and much like I talked to you guys

1465
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: about Brian Thomas clearing out with his ability to get deep,

1466
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: that's what Christian Watson does to their offense. And then

1467
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: they have so many guys underneath, and they have good

1468
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: tight ends. I mean they can catch the ball and

1469
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: catch the ball in the passing game as well, So

1470
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a real and Jacob's runs hard.

1471
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: It's gonna be.

1472
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs is a good back and they got a

1473
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: good offensive line, so that this rush defense, who's done

1474
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: pretty good for the most part of stopping the run,

1475
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: especially this past Sunday they dominated, It's gonna be tested.

1476
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: And my fear is if the Packers get the run

1477
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: past like two things going, I think it's not gonna

1478
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: be good.

1479
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: It could be, it could be, it could get loose.

1480
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: That game can get high sched.

1481
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm worried about because we have not

1482
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 3: like even if you look at the Patriots game, we

1483
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: didn't consistently rush Drake may He had too much time,

1484
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 3: especially early in that game. And that's an awful offensive line.

1485
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: This is a good offensive line, better receivers, better quarterback,

1486
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 3: and if they get the run like that's my biggest concern.

1487
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: If we I think you have to make him long

1488
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 3: dimension one dimension, you have to get him third long situations,

1489
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 3: and you have to get off the field. This team

1490
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 3: has not being able to get off the field. We

1491
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 3: don't get turnovers, we don't get up on third down

1492
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: very well, especially early so that needs to change. And

1493
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: then offensively, Pete the Packers defense, I don't know much

1494
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: about them.

1495
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 5: They hadn't been up until they.

1496
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: Got a lot of pressure last week in CJ. Stroud.

1497
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: What were they doing?

1498
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: Were they blitzing or they just rushing forth?

1499
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 5: Oh, they got after them.

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Speaker 1: The Texas had problems with their offensive line on Sunday,

1501
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 1: and I haven't watched that tape yet, but it looked

1502
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: like on the TV when I was watching it they

1503
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: were And that had been a criticism of the Packers

1504
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: up until that point. That the pass rushers Rashaun Gary

1505
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: and Preston Smith and those guys, Yeah they're good players,

1506
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: but they hadn't been winning.

1507
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 5: That started to come together.

1508
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 1: Having Alexander back at corner helps at you know, because

1509
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: it makes them slow down the reads and you can't

1510
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: get the ball out. So it helped the pass rush.

1511
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: But that's a good defense. They have some young players.

1512
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: Evan Williams of safety on the back end is a

1513
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: really good rookie safety from Oregon's good player.

1514
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 5: They're athletic, they can run, they you know. And then

1515
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 5: they saw some veterans.

1516
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's some veterans on the you know, like

1517
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,479
Speaker 1: you mentioned Presto Smith, Kenny Clark, get guys up front,

1518
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: they could get after it.

1519
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a challenge for that offense. I mean,

1520
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about it.

1521
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for them to win this week, Guy,

1522
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna stop the pack the Packers.

1523
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: I think the Packers are gonna like I think this,

1524
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: And if you look at and Doug said something aout

1525
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 3: complamentary football as we came out of the last break,

1526
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 3: and I agree with them. But what kicked off that

1527
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: complmentary football. It was the offense. It was Trevor, it

1528
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 3: was Brian Thomas Junior, was Tank Bigsby was that offensive line,

1529
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: and I think the offensive line for the rest of

1530
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: the year. If they want to get on any kind

1531
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 3: of run and start stacking wins, I think it has

1532
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 3: to be the offense. I think the offense has to

1533
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 3: come out fast. I actually would take the ball first

1534
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: almost because this we give up more points.

1535
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: You're steven.

1536
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 3: We give up more points than any other team in

1537
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 3: the NFL, and the opening drives of games more than

1538
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 3: anybody defensively. So let's take the ball first and see

1539
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 3: if we can get that fast start. And get going

1540
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: and set the tone. And I think this is one

1541
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 3: of those games, guys, that we're gonna have to win.

1542
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: Thirty one to twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty four. I

1543
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 3: mean it's gonna be in the high twenties, low thirties.

1544
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 3: And offensively, I think the onus is on them because Pete,

1545
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: I just don't see us getting enough pressure. And then

1546
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 3: you have a good offense line with a really good

1547
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: back in Josh Jacobs who is a power back downhill, physical.

1548
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: And if they get and good receivers.

1549
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 3: And if they get it going, like I just I

1550
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: don't see us getting a bunch of stops and so

1551
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: got to get a turnover here there, that'd be nice.

1552
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 3: But I think the onus is on the offense this week.

1553
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: The offense has to start fast and come out and

1554
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: saying we're gonna be in a heavyweight fight. Let's go.

1555
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 3: It is on our backs and defensive, give us a

1556
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 3: couple steal possession, get a turnover, give us a couple

1557
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: of stops, and let us go to work. I think

1558
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: I would take the ball first. I think this week

1559
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: I would play.

1560
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take arm I would make Armstead start

1561
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: at defensive three. Technique. If you look at the Packers

1562
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: defensive offensive line, the center is just okay and the

1563
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: right guard is just okay. That's that's the week.

1564
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: That's the weekly. Yeah, okay. I haven't watched the tape,

1565
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: so I'm looking forward to it.

1566
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: But it tackles a really good player, and the left

1567
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: tackle has is okay. The left guard is really good. Jenkin,

1568
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins, you remember him. He's a good, very good player.

1569
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 3: And this is what I mean. Pete, uh, Doug Peterson's

1570
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 3: talked about it. You know, we're two and five. We've

1571
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 3: won two of the last three. Now, you could argue

1572
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 3: we beat a winning team in the Colts there four

1573
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: and three. However, that may be the.

1574
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: First four and three team I've ever seen, by the way.

1575
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 5: I'm serious.

1576
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: They just got flex the Sunday night, Bete, they're going.

1577
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: I know, but they lost. They beat the Dolphins barely

1578
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: by That team with the Huntley went out and they

1579
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,520
Speaker 1: played the backup quarterback and held on for dear life.

1580
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: It's not a good team.

1581
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 3: But I mean, this is like, if you want to

1582
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 3: start stacking them, you better get it here because like

1583
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: it does not get easier. You got to go to Philly,

1584
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 3: which is a tough place to play. Now, the Phillies

1585
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 3: beat up a little bit on the offensive line. But

1586
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 3: then you got the Vikings, who were you know, we're

1587
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 3: beating the Lions early.

1588
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 5: And what's the four games? The four game stretches brut.

1589
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to this. Three of the four against the

1590
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 3: best division in football, the NFC North. So you got

1591
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 3: this week the Packers at home. Then you go to

1592
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: the I believe, the leading NFC East team, The Eagles

1593
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: have the best record in the NFC East, first place Eagles.

1594
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: They're tied with the Washington Okay, but.

1595
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 3: They're tied for first right. Then you go come home

1596
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: to this King Vikings, who are a five win team.

1597
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: Then you go to Detroit, who I think is the

1598
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: best team in the NFL. Like if the Detroit Lions

1599
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: are paying the Chiefs, I'm picking the Lions.

1600
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm without without Hutchinson, I am they better go get

1601
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: They should go get Max Crosby.

1602
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: Well, there's a chance before we play them, they're gonna

1603
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: have traded for a pass rusher. Whether I don't think,

1604
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:17,919
Speaker 3: I don't.

1605
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: Think that shows up. Believe me, that shows up. It

1606
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: showed up in a big way.

1607
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 3: I get that. But I don't think they get Crosby.

1608
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: I think they go get.

1609
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: Smith.

1610
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 3: I think they get Zadarius Smith from Cleveland.

1611
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not good enough.

1612
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: But can they afford Crosby? Can they fit him in

1613
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: the cap?

1614
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: If you're all in this team, is this team?

1615
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 5: You're right?

1616
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: This team can win a Super Bowl year. He'll get Crosby.

1617
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 3: I would listen if they can fit it, because I

1618
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 3: do believe this is the best team in football. And

1619
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: if you get with a pass rusher, and if you

1620
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 3: can afford cap wise, go give a second rounder and

1621
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: go get Crosby, because I think you can get him

1622
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 3: for a second rounder.

1623
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: I would. I would do that. And it's because you

1624
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: had to give up one and you think you're gonna

1625
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: be good late one. Go get him for that too.

1626
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 3: You noticed Crosby set out this week, and that guy

1627
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: doesn't sit out for anything.

1628
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 5: And you know what else he did? No, he played

1629
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 5: this week?

1630
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 3: Oh did the end up? He did, but he didn't

1631
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: practice all week.

1632
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 5: Sorry, you know what he did?

1633
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: He didn't practice all week. But they came out.

1634
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: He said he's open to be a Drade because he's

1635
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: going to be a part of the rebuild.

1636
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. He wants out.

1637
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 5: I can't play Detroit.

1638
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: I get him and make it happen, because with him

1639
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: they can win a super Bowl. If they don't get

1640
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: a guy like Crosby, they're not winning a super Bowl.

1641
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 3: They're good on offense, so my goodness.

1642
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've made they've They've made Jared Goff into

1643
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: the big time, big time MVP Candidy.

1644
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 3: They got two start backs, they got an offensive line.

1645
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 3: I mean, they are good. Now, here's the funny thing

1646
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 3: about the NFL. Though we are saying this right now,

1647
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: but the league is funny. And I'm not wishing this

1648
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 3: on anybody, but every team, every team is one or

1649
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: two key injuries away from being very average. That's that's

1650
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: the sad part. But that's the beauty of the NFL

1651
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 3: because you don't know until you get to December.

1652
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: It's a survival test making that far and playing your

1653
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: best football at the right time.

1654
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 3: Right now, they're the best team, But in my.

1655
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: Opinion, the Chiefs are the best team. I don't think

1656
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: so that defense is dark good Ton. I know they

1657
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 1: look ordinary on Sunday well.

1658
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 3: But they were also without Trent Williams got ejected, which

1659
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: both guys should have got both guys. Both guys should

1660
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: have got ejected. Ayuk blues the out. They don't have

1661
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 3: Christoph McCaffrey.

1662
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 5: He played, I know, but up until this point he's

1663
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 5: played pretty good football without those guys. Samuel was sick.

1664
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: He didn't play Samuel's I mean they were without their

1665
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, let's not make too much out

1666
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: of them beaten.

1667
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 1: And you know they hadn't run the ball. The same

1668
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: offensive line was there. They couldn't run ball.

1669
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Chiefs aren't good.

1670
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are impresive at this point because

1671
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: they can always find a way no matter what.

1672
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 3: The fact that what's crazy about the Chiefs and we

1673
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 3: don't play them, which I'm happy about, is Patrick Mahomes

1674
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 3: has six touchdowns and eight interceptions and and they're undefeated.

1675
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

1676
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 5: But you know what he can do if he needs

1677
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 5: to go get one.

1678
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: He that's the like this is and this is the

1679
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: next evolution that Trevor needs to take. When you have

1680
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: the ball in the fourth quarter and you have to

1681
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 3: go score, everyone in the stadium has to know you're

1682
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 3: gonna go score. Like there's certain guys in this league,

1683
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: like with like two or three minutes and you're like, oh,

1684
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 3: they're going to go score. They're like, Mahomes, you can

1685
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: gotta go score. Josh Allen, He's gonna go find a

1686
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 3: way to score. I mean, there's certain guys. The Detroit

1687
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: Lions is a team behind Jared Goff. I mean, give

1688
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 3: him great. Did he end up with over one hundred

1689
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 3: and fifty passeray again?

1690
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: No, but he's but he's his stats are amazing. He's

1691
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: the only quarterback. He has a completion presented at eighty

1692
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: three point five in the last four games, which is

1693
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: the highest ever. I mean, he's it's incredible. Do you

1694
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: realize he has They have scored more touchdowns and he

1695
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: has incompletions in the last four games.

1696
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unbelievable.

1697
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: Sixteen They fixed him. Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson,

1698
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, What about that guy?

1699
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: Give him credit. That's the quarterback coach. Give Mark a

1700
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 3: lot of credits.

1701
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 5: Job with the quarterback too. I mean, look, Mark's a

1702
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 5: good quarterbacks coach.

1703
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: A bunch of love to go around.

1704
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 3: It goes back to keeping it real. This is the

1705
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 3: opportunity against a very good Packers team. Come into town

1706
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 3: where I want to win.

1707
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: You're legitimate win this.

1708
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: It changes the entire narrative of this season. It doesn't

1709
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: mean you're back in it, but you are now different.

1710
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 3: It's different. It feels different going to Philly. It feels

1711
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: different in the division, it feels different in the city.

1712
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 3: It feels different in this building. And I think this

1713
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 3: is an opportunity because I think it's gonna have to

1714
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: be the offense. I hope the defense plays better. I

1715
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 3: hope they clean things up. I hope they get up

1716
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: the field. I don't have a lot of confidence right now.

1717
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: That means offensively, Trevor. That line bigsby Brian Thomas Ingram

1718
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: and it starts with Trevor. This is the opportunity. Go

1719
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: take it to them and say, Hey, as an offense,

1720
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 3: we're putting this team on our back this week. We

1721
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 3: know we're playing against another good offense. We are gonna

1722
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 3: go score, We're gonna get into the thirties, and in

1723
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter when we have the ball, we're gonna

1724
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: make the plays. Then it's gonna take the win. That's

1725
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: what we need to see this week, and that's what I.

1726
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: Hope we say this week and limit the bubble screens.

1727
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,160
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1728
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01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 2: about LSU wide receiver University Pete. Is Brian Thomas Junior

1748
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in this class?

1749
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: No, but he's close.

1750
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 5: His former teammate is the best wide receiver in this class.

1751
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: Could he be by the end of this year considering

1752
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks?

1753
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: Could he be by the end of his career. Absolutely.

1754
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll happen this year, but he

1755
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: could be.

1756
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think let's let's delineate between the best receiver

1757
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 3: in the best numbers. I could see Brian Thomas Junior

1758
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 3: putting up better numbers than the Molik Neighbors because of

1759
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: the quarterback he's dealing with.

1760
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: But I think.

1761
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 3: Neighbors was hurt. But based on when both had been

1762
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 3: on the field, it'd be as much as I love

1763
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Jr. And I do think he has the

1764
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 3: potential to be one of the best receivers in the

1765
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,879
Speaker 3: I mean really good receiver in this league and upper echelon,

1766
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: I think it would be unfair and we'd be forgetting

1767
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 3: what Neighbors did the first four weeks when he was healthy.

1768
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 5: Not only that Neighbors was a better receiver at LSU.

1769
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: He was and so like, here's the thing, better than Harrison. Yes,

1770
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: right now and he will be. Look when he came out.

1771
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: I one thing about Marvin Harrison that bothered me is

1772
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: there's no real suddenness to his game. Brian Thomas and

1773
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: elite neighbors have suddenness. It matters, you know, and and

1774
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: so donsay in Chicago. He doesn't have real suddenness either.

1775
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: That's the difference between Brian. I think Brian Thomas is

1776
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: going to be one of the best receivers in the NFL.

1777
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a real, true alpha number one receiver.

1778
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,919
Speaker 3: If Brian Thomas to do that, he needs to continue

1779
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 3: to work, and he should. He's a rookie, so I'm

1780
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 3: not true. He continues his route running routes and is

1781
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 3: in cleaning up and becoming even a better route runner.

1782
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 3: Like I saw something, And I don't know if you're

1783
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 3: gonna get to this question or not. So if I'm

1784
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 3: stealing your thunder, kaya forgive me.

1785
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if we have it.

1786
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: The questions coming in is was is Brian Thomas Junior

1787
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 3: the second best receiver in the history of this franchise?

1788
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: And I'm like, did you forget about a guy named

1789
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,480
Speaker 3: Keenan McCardell.

1790
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: I think you're going off potential and there, but I'm like,

1791
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: you don't.

1792
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: That's like, like Jimmy.

1793
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: Smith is fifteen receivers and yards and catches and catches

1794
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: and yards.

1795
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that people like to get excited about

1796
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: things best drafted a receiver.

1797
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 3: Hold on time out. I don't like doing this to

1798
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: young players, and we do that too often here, Like everyone,

1799
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 3: pump your brakes. Brian Thomas Junior is a heck of

1800
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: a football player and is having a great rookie year

1801
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 3: and has all kinds of potential, has skill, a skill

1802
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: set that is rare. He can go get it, he

1803
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 3: can run by people, and he's good when the ball's

1804
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 3: in the air, no doubt about it. Like he is,

1805
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 3: he has a chance to be special. But please don't

1806
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: even put him in the same sentence as Jimmy Smith

1807
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 3: at this point. Jimmy Smith arguably should be in the

1808
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. If you go watch him, and if

1809
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: you go talk to any Hall of Fame corner who

1810
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: had to play against Jimmy Smith, they didn't want to

1811
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 3: lined up against him that day because that's how good

1812
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 3: Jimmy Smith was. And Keenamar Cardell was an absolute beast

1813
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 3: and one of the best receivers in an era. When

1814
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: you went across the middle, you took your life in

1815
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 3: your own hands. And he went across the middle and

1816
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: played the middle of the field as well as anybody.

1817
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 3: And as Pete said, is a top fifteen like all time,

1818
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: like yards or near there and so.

1819
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, Tony, But to Cau's point, he will be

1820
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: the best drafted wide receiver in team history.

1821
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. I'm not sufted, so I'm not

1822
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 3: saying he's not.

1823
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: The bar, like he's so low on that I can

1824
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 2: jump in the.

1825
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Purse of the position for so long. Remember it started

1826
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 1: with R. J. Sower.

1827
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 3: I get that, but bar, But here's what I don't like.

1828
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 3: We do this too often in this organization, too much pressure.

1829
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:59,440
Speaker 3: The guy has played seven games, he is outstanding. Enjoy it, celebrated.

1830
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 3: What a great rookie year, what a great pick. I'm

1831
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 3: glad he's on our team. What a good job getting

1832
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 3: him late in the mid mid to late of the

1833
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 3: first round. Love every aspect of it. But don't start

1834
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: at like, don't start saying Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell, like no.

1835
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: No, does he have the tools?

1836
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 3: Yes, high percent. I love Brian Thomas jet It is

1837
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 3: so fun to watch him. I want us to throw

1838
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 3: deep to him like five times a game because he

1839
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 3: just runs by people and for somehow, some way, even

1840
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 3: when he's covered, he comes down with it.

1841
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1842
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 5: But if he runs deep four or five times, that's

1843
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 5: four or five times. They can't run a bubble screen.

1844
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 3: Here we go. But you know what I'm saying, Let's

1845
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 3: celebrate what he's done so far, but let's not.

1846
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: Start all right, We'll pump the brakes, but.

1847
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: We do, Pete, do you see you see what I'm saying, Pete,

1848
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you said. But in terms of

1849
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: being he has the ability to be into that class.

1850
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's exciting.

1851
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: Great As yesterday on one of our shows, I said,

1852
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: there are elite receivers in this league like Jamar Chase

1853
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: and Jefferson and those guys. If he continues to do

1854
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: what he what I think he can do, he could

1855
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 1: be in that class.

1856
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 3: He's like, he can has a chance to be special.

1857
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, no doubt about it.

1858
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: And I love it. I absolutely love it. And he

1859
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: is the best tracted receiver I've seen in this franchise.

1860
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: That's not saying, but but he's done it for seven games.

1861
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 3: Let's keep it going. I mean he is, and I do,

1862
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 3: and I think what Pete said, what a great job.

1863
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 3: Because he was the fourth receiver taking off the board,

1864
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 3: and there was talk should this team trade up to

1865
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 3: go get one of those top three guys which I

1866
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 3: was a top three which I was never for no

1867
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: chance know how would have done that. But when they made.

1868
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 5: The wide receivers to go, and he goes.

1869
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 3: And he goes, and he has his speak fast, he

1870
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 3: has a gear that most guys don't have. And right now, ironically,

1871
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 3: the two best young receivers of this class both played

1872
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: together last year. It's Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior.

1873
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: Both are with Jade Daniels, with Jane Daniels.

1874
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: How they how they lost the game? I have no

1875
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 3: They can't stop.

1876
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 5: That couldn't stop anybody.

1877
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: Even though they had the two defensive tackles that Jacksonville had,

1878
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: they couldn't stop anybody.

1879
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's unreal. So love it. Great seven game stretch,

1880
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 3: his yards per catch, the numbers he's putting up. Love it,

1881
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: every bit of it. I just don't like. I see

1882
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 3: questions like, is he better than Keenan marcrdell?

1883
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 1: No, not yet, Yes, cans that didn't have.

1884
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 3: Does he have a skill set that Keenan never had

1885
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 3: because Brian was born with it? Yes, was.

1886
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Keenan was one of the best route runners in the

1887
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: NFL has ever seen.

1888
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Keenan. I don't know what he ran,

1889
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 3: but it was. It wasn't super fast, but somehow that

1890
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 3: dude got open and got behind guys and made catches

1891
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 3: and played the game like in a manner like. And

1892
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm biased because Keenan McCardell is one of my favorite

1893
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 3: teammates I've ever played with. Because Keenan McCardell is the

1894
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: toughest football player I've ever played with. And he's a

1895
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: wide receiver. And I've never seen I've never seen someone

1896
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: practice as hard as Keith Marcadell. I've never seen someone

1897
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: study the game like Keenan McCardell. I've never seen someone

1898
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 3: who loved football like Keenan McCardell. And I've never seen

1899
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 3: a guy who would sacrifice everything for his team like

1900
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: Kean McCarthy.

1901
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 8: He was.

1902
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: This is a guy who played the week after getting

1903
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 3: a Grade three AC joint separation, was told to be

1904
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: out four to six weeks, played the next week. By

1905
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 3: the way, this is a guy in the playoffs that.

1906
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 5: Broke, guys that cover.

1907
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Yes, one of my all time favorite guys that cover,

1908
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 1: and he needs to be in the ring of all.

1909
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: He should be. I love it. And he's a guy

1910
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: in a playoff game. Broke his wrist against the Patriots

1911
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 3: and was going to be out for obviously broken wrists

1912
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: like broke broke and said, I'm playing against the Jets

1913
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: next week. I'm like, there's no chance you're playing. Didn't

1914
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: practice all week non contact, He ran through the routes,

1915
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: put a cast on, and had like ten catches against

1916
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 3: the Jets in a playoff game with a cast. The

1917
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 3: dude was like an animal, an animal.

1918
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: And he should still be in the building, by the way.

1919
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 3: And by the way, one of the best receiver coaches

1920
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: in this league.

1921
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 5: Yes, that's what I mean. You should still be in

1922
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 5: the building.

1923
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not taking anything away from Chad Hall. He's

1924
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 3: our coach. I'm glad he's here. He's a good football coach.

1925
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, and I think now you can argue

1926
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 3: this that Brian Thomas Junior is the third best receiver

1927
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 3: in this You can argue that. You could argue that

1928
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 3: all day long, and I don't have a great argument

1929
01:26:58,840 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 3: against this.

1930
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 2: All Right, all right, we're keeping it positive. We beat

1931
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 2: a bad New England team. How much good can we

1932
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: take from this game moving forward, given who that opponent was. Tony,

1933
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: you talked about the offense getting going. What are some

1934
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 2: of the good things that you saw in.

1935
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 3: Your run game? You got the run game going. I

1936
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 3: think the offensive line is a group that's played starting

1937
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,440
Speaker 3: with Houston and since then has played really good football,

1938
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: really good football, and his physical They ran the ball.

1939
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 3: I thought Walker Little was outstanding and and I like

1940
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 3: that they gave the ball to Tank Bigsby twenty six times.

1941
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: I think that is a recipe for success. Run the

1942
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 3: ball with Bigsby, play action pass, take your shots down

1943
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 3: the middle of the field. Trevor's playing good. It helps

1944
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 3: the line protect. You don't have to drop back as much.

1945
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 3: It takes the pressure off that line, especially against some

1946
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 3: good pass rushers. It wears defenses out and allows you

1947
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: to dictate the tempo and the pace and your will

1948
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. That's how I think this team

1949
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 3: should play. And it does another thing that we needed

1950
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: to It keeps our defense on the sideline. They had

1951
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: long drives from the second quarter on except for the

1952
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 3: bomb to Brian Thomas Jr. And the putt return. Were

1953
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 3: the defense that to go right back out there. And

1954
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 3: the defense did better in the second in the last

1955
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 3: three quarters, but you look at the second half, that

1956
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: defense wasn't on the field very much because they ran

1957
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,480
Speaker 3: it and they eight clock and a combination of controlling

1958
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 3: the clock, running the ball, play action, pass, big shots.

1959
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: You have a big play receiver and Brian Thomas Jr.

1960
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 3: That's the recipe in my opinion, of how you need

1961
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: to play because of all the things I said, And

1962
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: keeps your defense on the sideline. The defense is struggling

1963
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 3: right now to get off the field. And so the

1964
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 3: best way sometimes play good defenses is don't let the

1965
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 3: other offense on the field.

1966
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Let's score points. There we go.

1967
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 3: Well, you got, I mean, you gotta score points. You

1968
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 3: got and you got you gotta make you gotta take

1969
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: seven not three?

1970
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, running a little late today, so we're

1971
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 2: gonna head to break really quickly here on Jaguars presented

1972
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 2: by Chubbies Wings. But we'll be back to talk about

1973
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: Green Bay.

1974
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 6: Well, definitely, it was for us all just to continiously

1975
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 6: stay together as a unit like we know we can

1976
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 6: be in as a franchise in general, we needed that.

1977
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: For eleven years, Dreamfinders Homes has been proud to call

1978
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Visit Dreamfinders'

1979
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 2: Homes dot com for all of the available inventory and

1980
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: go Jags. Welcome back to Happy Hour second hour, closing

1981
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 2: things out here on mister Chubby's Wings sponsored hour of

1982
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: Happy Hour, and listen the team. I know, I feel

1983
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 2: like we're saying this every single week. They absolutely needed

1984
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: that win last week, especially after the performance against the

1985
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: Bears and after this one, hoping to kind of roll

1986
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: that into a game against the Packers, who are a

1987
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: much better team where I think if you can get

1988
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,799
Speaker 2: a win, that would actually change some things around here. Obviously,

1989
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: you're beating teams in the Colts and the Patriots that

1990
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: you hopefully should beat, but a win against the Packers

1991
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: would go a long way. Pete, when we're looking at

1992
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: a team like Green Bay coming in, what did you

1993
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: see from them last week and what are we going

1994
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: to see this week.

1995
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 5: Well, they got all over c J.

1996
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Stroud. They limited him throwing the football, I mean, and

1997
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: they didn't play very well with the Texans. And look,

1998
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: we know they can score then we know the Texans

1999
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: can score points. But I think he threw under one

2000
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: hundred yards on Sunday and it wasn't just him.

2001
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 5: They don't have Nico Collins, so that changed the way

2002
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 5: they play him.

2003
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: But Green Bay is good. They're talented at a lot

2004
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: of spots, important spots, and like I said earlier, I

2005
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: think the pass rush has.

2006
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 5: Been a problem for him.

2007
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: But they're gonna score points on Jacksonville. So Jacksonville better

2008
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: be ready to go get points of their own. And

2009
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Tony's right, it's going to be. It's gonna be a

2010
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: higher scoring game. And I think that's going it's gonna

2011
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: be the it needs to be the Trevor Lawrence thrown

2012
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: a round game where Thomas gets one hundred and twenty

2013
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: in a touch you know that kind of game. I

2014
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: think that's what it needs to be for Jacksonville.

2015
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 3: Well, here's the number, CJ show only twenty one attempts,

2016
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 3: eighty six yards, no touchdowns, no interception, sacked four four times.

2017
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 3: That means they dropped back twenty five times. I actually

2018
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 3: had five rushes, so they dropped back thirty times. But

2019
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 3: let me tell you the formula. Pete Joe Joe Mixon

2020
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 3: twenty five carries one hundred and fifteen yards a tank.

2021
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's get tank going. They had thirty three

2022
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 3: rushers for one forty two four point three yards a carry.

2023
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 3: I think that's the formula. I'm not saying I agree

2024
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 3: that they.

2025
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 5: Need because they're not great against the run either.

2026
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: They're not.

2027
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 3: They need to take shots down the field, no doubt

2028
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 3: about it. But it needs to be set up by

2029
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 3: running the ball, play action, pass, run it. Keep that

2030
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 3: offense that Packers offense on the sideline. I think that

2031
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 3: if you do that.

2032
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: If you don't score points, you're gonna pay for it.

2033
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I do. That's a theory to you. If you run

2034
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 1: the ball and control the clock and go get a

2035
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: field goal, they go get a touchdown seven to three,

2036
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: you go get your control.

2037
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 5: O'clock gets fourteen to six.

2038
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 3: You have to you have to make you have to

2039
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 3: score touchdowns. You can't kick field goals, so you have

2040
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 3: to be good in the red zone. Pete's exactly right.

2041
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 3: I just worry. I just worry about our defense because

2042
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 3: our defense hasn't done anything to me that gives you

2043
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 3: confidence that can get off the field.

2044
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 2: And it's the time of possession for me too. We've

2045
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: talked about this. Obviously. They're on the field so much

2046
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 2: that even if the offense is doing well, they're out

2047
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: of rhythm because it's been ten minutes since they had

2048
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 2: the football.

2049
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 3: Like literally in the first quarter Sunday, it was eleven

2050
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 3: and a half minutes to three and a half, nineteen

2051
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 3: plays the five place. I mean, the Jack said you can't,

2052
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 3: and I said it on the broadcast, you can. If

2053
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 3: you're an offensive player, you're sitting there on the sidelines.

2054
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 3: You get no rhythm. You're like getting cold, Like I

2055
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 3: gotta go warm up, I need a stretch again, Like

2056
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:36,799
Speaker 3: get off the field.

2057
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Well. And if you're a Green Bay, save your good

2058
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: play for the fourth, good place for fourth, five and six,

2059
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 1: because you know you'll be playing the backups by that.

2060
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 3: Here we go, Pete in the hockey lineup change.

2061
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 5: It just infuriates me.

2062
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: I just can't understand it, and I don't think I'm

2063
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:57,640
Speaker 1: the only one I know.

2064
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 5: You've said it too, But does anybody else say it?

2065
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,839
Speaker 5: Does log him and say it.

2066
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. I just think you need your best players,

2067
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 3: especially when you're a struggling defense. You need your best

2068
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 3: players on the field. There's certain guys I wouldn't take

2069
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 3: off unless they're just gas gassed. Trayvon Walker, Josh heinz Allen.

2070
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't take Ventrel Miller off. He's he runs and hits,

2071
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's great in coverage. But you

2072
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: know what, tell me.

2073
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 5: The line coverage once he learns at a drop.

2074
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 3: But Pete, here's the thing. Tell me the linebacker we

2075
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 3: have who's good in.

2076
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: Coverage, because Steven Lloyd's terrible in coverage.

2077
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 3: So put Ventrail out there. Get Eric Armistead every third down. Hey,

2078
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 3: you're playing three technique, or rush the passer or start

2079
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 3: him there. I'm not I'm actually ok Pete in base personnel.

2080
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 3: If you don't want to play Eric Armistead inside, like,

2081
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 3: make him a sub player. Sixty seventy percent of the

2082
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 3: players are in sub anyway, So put him out there

2083
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 3: and Nickel it's fine. I'm okay with that.

2084
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Hamilton I would play the like Hamilton's good in the

2085
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: run game, he looked, you know, Tony the other day,

2086
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 1: he looked almost back to being what he was.

2087
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 3: I hope that's right, But you sign you signed Graziano.

2088
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 3: He's a serviceable guy in first and second down if

2089
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 3: you need to give those guys a blow.

2090
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: Can Mason Smith get back in the next year. We

2091
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 2: didn't see him suit up last game.

2092
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like. I mean, he's been inactive for

2093
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: two games, healthy and active this year at a seven.

2094
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't popped on film. He's gonna have to go

2095
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 3: earn it. I don't know what's going on. I don't.

2096
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason he's not out there. He's

2097
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 3: a second round pick. You need production out of him,

2098
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 3: and he's not giving you the production.

2099
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 5: The knock on him coming out of LSU was did

2100
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 5: he love it?

2101
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean that was you know, he had the.

2102
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 5: Major knee injury early.

2103
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: And was on the way you know he has he has.

2104
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, and I love the kid, don't get

2105
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 1: me wrong. He was on my better than day. I

2106
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be his big time player or steal.

2107
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: I still do think he has the potential, but you

2108
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: can't if you.

2109
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 5: Don't love it. I don't care how much much potential

2110
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 5: you have.

2111
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: It's not going to work.

2112
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's draft and develop. We're gonna have to develop

2113
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 2: that one for sure. We're keeping an eye on this

2114
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 2: throughout the week and kind of see if he's going

2115
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 2: to be active this week. But going into it, we

2116
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 2: know the Jags.

2117
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 5: You know what, guy, here's what would bother me if

2118
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 5: I were him?

2119
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: What's that.

2120
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 1: Your guy drafted behind you? Your former teammate was active

2121
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 1: and you weren't.

2122
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 3: How do you look on tape? And I think it's.

2123
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: It's okay, I mean, yeah, nothing great.

2124
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 2: They're just I think they're really I mean again with

2125
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 2: the switching. They're really committed with the moving everybody back

2126
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: and forth, because then they get Lacy up and Ota

2127
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: maywell every other.

2128
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Maywe was not even active. I thought he they loved him.

2129
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 1: Lacey wasn't great on Sunday. I don't understand.

2130
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 2: They have a real infatuation with lady and they're going

2131
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: to keep rotating until someone kind of makes them stop.

2132
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2133
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, rotation hockey rotations, as Pete loves to.

2134
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 5: Said, over the wall, get over the ice, get on

2135
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 5: the ice. Too many men on the ice penalty.

2136
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 2: All right, we got predictions for this game coming up.

2137
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm not locking anything, and I apologize for the double lock,

2138
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 2: but I don't want to hear what these fellows think

2139
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: will happen this week.

2140
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 3: I know Pete, like screen Bay, you know, I'm I

2141
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 3: picked the jags every week, you do, you know my

2142
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 3: confidence if I lock it. I'm not locking it, but

2143
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 3: I'm picking the jacks all right.

2144
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 1: But you know what if we put them on a

2145
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: log detector right now, that thing would go nuts, and

2146
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: picking picking Jackson it would go so they'd have to

2147
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: go get a new one.

2148
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 3: It would be Let's say, what's who playing Monday nights?

2149
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 3: And I haven't paying attention. I've been on games games.

2150
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 3: What's this two game Monday night thing?

2151
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 2: I can't like it, to be honest, I like it

2152
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 2: because then if one's bad, you can switch the other one.

2153
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 3: For both are good? Ky be positive?

2154
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 2: All right, Ravens Bucks, that could be very.

2155
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 3: Good, be a great game, and that's a great game

2156
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: that could be.

2157
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 5: That could be a high school Chargers Cardinals game.

2158
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 3: Charge Cardinals does not interest me. I'll be watching Ravens.

2159
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 5: It is the Chargers because the Chargers actually played. Remember

2160
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 5: then went to Denver and beat up the Broncos last week.

2161
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 2: All right, thirty seconds, give me your quick pick.

2162
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 3: I got Chargers will beat the Cardinals. They're more physical team.

2163
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 3: I think they win. I'm gonna go Bucks. I think

2164
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 3: the Beatos are sneak too. I think they get a

2165
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 3: win against the Ravens.

2166
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, gentlemen, thank you for letting me sit

2167
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: in for JP Shadwick. He'll be back on Thursday. He'll

2168
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 2: be back next Monday. I appreciate you all, all, everybody

2169
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, thanks for joining us on Happy Hour.