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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back into another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros Baseball podcast. I'm your host, Mike Maher and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined today by Kelly Kirby, and we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking MLB free agency, winners and losers with a focus

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Speaker 1: on fantasy baseball. Now. A ton has already happened in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball free agency, but we have a ton

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Speaker 1: still to come to. There's a lot of big names

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Speaker 1: like Corbin Burns that have yet to sign, but we

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Speaker 1: already have some major moves at Kwant Soto, Kyle Tucker,

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Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger, Garrett Corchet and so many more. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to get to as many as we can today

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Speaker 1: and trying to group them together and give you an

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Speaker 1: idea of who we think are winners, who are losers,

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Speaker 1: and who are we'll find out together. Kelly, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing today?

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Speaker 2: crazy outside, so I'm definitely in the mood.

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Speaker 1: To talk baseball. I'm so jealous since I moved. I

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Speaker 1: love the snow. I'm from the Northeast. I have lived

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Speaker 1: and he's like, when's it going to snow? And we're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe tomorrow, but like, you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: Let's dive right in, and I wanted to. I tried

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Speaker 1: talk about it. The first three I grouped together a

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Speaker 1: trio of lefty hitters Juan Soto, Kyle Tucker, and Cody Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: Juan Soto famously signed a ginormous contract with the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets that made Joe Piece of Pa very happy.

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Speaker 1: I watched that video the other day. He was a

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Speaker 1: and maybe, you know, throw some shade at that a

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker traded to the Cubs, and you know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking winners and losers. The biggest winner would be you

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Speaker 1: as a Cubs fan, someone who loves Kyle Tucker. And

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Speaker 1: then Cody Bellinger t to the Yankees, the classic Brian

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Speaker 1: Cashman move, who loads up. You know, he likes to

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Speaker 1: load up on lefty pitchers and lefty hitters. That's been

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Speaker 1: his move for twenty years now. It doesn't always work,

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Speaker 1: but it is his go to move for that stadium.

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Speaker 1: It's very predictable, but it works. It's a short fans

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Speaker 1: it is interesting that he kind of just always goes

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Speaker 1: these three other than you know, obviously the obvious winners

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Speaker 1: like you getting Kyle Tucker and wants to getting all

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Speaker 1: that money, who do you think, in your mind is

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Speaker 1: the biggest winner from this group. With an eye towards

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Speaker 2: Mean, I think you gotta go with Bellinger. And the

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Speaker 2: reason the only reason that I think that's true is

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to hit forty home runs. He's

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Speaker 2: You know, I've said that when I wrote Upfielder Profiles,

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Speaker 2: and I don't really think there's a middle, so he

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Speaker 2: can be the biggest winner. From a fantasy perspective, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know where you draft him based

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Speaker 2: to honor Joe, I'm going to say that the Mets

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Speaker 2: a Cubs fan, I am ecstatic about Kyle Tucker. My

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I don't care about the Mets.

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Speaker 1: And you know how much money they have to spend.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, there's not a lot of protection

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Speaker 1: that lineup. The starting rotation is very shaky. They're turning

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Speaker 2: He'll probably hit what twenty five ish to thirty home

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Speaker 1: with this, with signing another big free agent, putting deferred

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Speaker 1: But then you look at what Max Freed got from

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of crazy packages being thrown around

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Speaker 1: for the Garrot Crochet. There were like, you know, these

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Speaker 1: that deal any day. So the Dodgers went again, you know,

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Speaker 1: they get a pretty good contract, another good pitcher they needed, pitching.

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Speaker 2: So the different I've a pretty well known not Blake

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Speaker 2: just sort of hit and miss. Whereas with Freed, I've

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Speaker 2: contract was bananas. I don't mind the sense that he

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Speaker 1: Its traditionally not a great hitters park unless you're Barry

428
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Speaker 1: Bonds for you know, for different reasons. But I wanted

429
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: to look at like the park factors for right handed

430
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 1: hitters specifically, and I expected to see Miller Park, which

431
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: is apparently now American Family Field, remember it to be

432
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 1: significantly better than Oracle Park, which is apparently where the

433
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: Giants play. But they're both bad for right handed hitters.

434
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: I was surprised by that. I guess at least both

435
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 1: bad like overall, like they're both like bottom tier, like

436
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: Oracle Park is actually slightly better at twenty five and

437
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: American Family Field is two spots lower at twenty seven.

438
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 1: The difference is when you filter by home runs, and

439
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: that's where the Brewers Ballpark goes up to seven for

440
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: right handed hitters and Oracle Park is twenty eight. So

441
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: that's the difference. Is I guess just the overall about it,

442
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, park factor, if you're right in a hitter,

443
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 1: they're both not overly great, but home runs and that's

444
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: kind of like what has you know, kind of been

445
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: key to his success and interest is those home runs.

446
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's where we could see a decrease

447
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: depending on how the season goes, because last season he

448
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 1: hit thirty two of them, career high thirty two home runs.

449
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: He's currently projected with some you know, these are early projections.

450
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: Obviously we're you know, we're talking about this in December.

451
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: He's currently projected twenty five, which is in line with

452
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight the year before twenty four, but with some

453
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, and those are considering park factors too, and

454
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: also down to eight RBI, and so I do think

455
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: this could be a downgrade to him. And again we're

456
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: early in free agency. There's still a ton that's going

457
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: to happen here, and we'll see what happens with the

458
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: rest of the Giants lineup. But I do think overall,

459
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: it's a slight downgrade. And this is a guy who,

460
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: you just had a career year thirty two home runs,

461
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: two fifty one batting average. The year before he batted

462
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: two seventeen, and the year before that he had thirty

463
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: one home runs bad at two thirty eight, and he's

464
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: a career two forty eight hitter, which is in line

465
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: with what he just did. But we have seen decreases

466
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: in some of these numbers, you know, in the past,

467
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: and dips, and I just wonder, you know, did we

468
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 1: just you know, like like you said, like, I'm sure

469
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: people targeted Willia Domas and fantasy last year because he

470
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: was in a contract year, and good for him, he

471
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: had a career year. But now it feels like the

472
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: Giants are buying high and fantasy managers, there are some concerns.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be a terrible pick for you,

474
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's gonna bomb there, But I

475
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: think if you're just kind of looking at the trajectory,

476
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: because a lot of times what we like to do

477
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: with younger players is project and extrapolate, Like, Okay, this

478
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: guy just hit thirty two home runs as a twenty

479
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: eight year olds. He should only get better. I think

480
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: we just saw his ceiling personally, and I don't know

481
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: that he's going to get that ceiling again as long

482
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: as he's an Oracle Park and you know, in the

483
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: National League West. Any other thoughts on Willia Domas before

484
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: we jump over to Jimenez.

485
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: I was just gonna look real quick, where is he going? Like,

486
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: so he's going in the thround in like the early

487
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: NFBC drafts, and I think that's just way too high

488
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: in my opinion. That's fine, but you know, shortstop, shortstep

489
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: is Yeah, again, he just doesn't he doesn't excite me

490
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: in any way. So I just I don't know. I'm like,

491
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: I would rather, I would rather draft one of the

492
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: earlier ones and then uh, you know, hang out after

493
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: that and do something else. But but that's just me.

494
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't think he's a loser

495
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: or winner. I think it was kind of a very

496
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: neutral shift because we don't know what we're gonna get

497
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: from him year in and year out.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fairly neutral. I think if I

499
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Speaker 1: had to pick winner or a loser, I would pick

500
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: loser just because I think there's gonna be there's gonna

501
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: be fewer opportunities for home runs. And of course he's gonna,

502
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, go out and hit fifty home runs last

503
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: year and I'm gonna look dumb, but I do think

504
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be harder. You also take crack that thirty

505
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: home run.

506
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: You also take every chance you can to call people losers.

507
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not going to

508
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: bank on that. But yeah, I hope he hits I

509
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 2: hope if he hits fifty, just so that we can

510
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: look at ourselves and be like, well, good job, guys.

511
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: Way to undermine him.

512
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully someone remembers this December episode and clips

513
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: it when he hits fifty home runs and throws it

514
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: in my face. Another player different, very incredibly interesting to

515
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: me for many different reasons is Andre Semenez And my

516
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: question for him is isn't is he a loser or

517
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: a winner? Is I can't tell if Andre Semennez is good?

518
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: Like is he good? Because his numbers are always like

519
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: good and you know, he's always useful for fantasy, and

520
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: then I look at the expected numbers and he's bad

521
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: at bald data and it's just atrocious. And I've I've

522
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: been struggling with this with Andre Semenez for years. He's

523
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: someone I've traded for in Dynasty leagues. He's someone I

524
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: traded away in Dynasty leagues because I look at his

525
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: bad at bald data and I'm like, this is just gross.

526
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: It was kind of the same struggle I went through

527
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: with another player we talked a lot about at the

528
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: end of last season in Victor Roblists, who just he

529
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: was always like this exciting player and it's bad at

530
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: bal data. It was just really bad, and then it

531
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: caught up to him. It hasn't really caught up to

532
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: Andre Simenez. He's always just fine, like your anted. He

533
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: only hit nine uner runs last season, which is you know,

534
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: kind of what's gonna you know what you're gonna get

535
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: when you know you look at a stockcast page filled

536
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: with blue. But he still hit two fifty and stole

537
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: thirty bases, and so he's gonna be someone who's not

538
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: going to kill your batting average. He's a guy who

539
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: has hit two ninety seven before. I don't think we're

540
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: going to see that again, just based on you know,

541
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: the batted ball data that we're talking about, the same

542
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: thing with the seventeen nine runs and not really sure

543
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 1: that happened. Maybe just some of those bouncy balls were

544
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: bouncing the right way for him when the balls reduced.

545
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: And it's an interesting move for the Blue Jays. Sometimes

546
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's kind of like Bobachhet insurance for them,

547
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: because who knows what we're gonna get from Bobachet this season,

548
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: and who knows what it's going to look like going forward,

549
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: And so maybe for them, it just seemed like they're

550
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: getting a, you know, a positive replacement level player and

551
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: an affordable contract. You know, the Blue Jay need to

552
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: do something for me, he just seems like a guy.

553
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: If I'm drafting him, I'm hoping for ten home runs.

554
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm basically protecting thirty stolen bases, and a batting average

555
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: isn't gonna kill me. And that's basically what we're talking

556
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: about here. I don't know that the change in ballpark

557
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: or team or roster really does a whole lot for him.

558
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: I just think he is who he is. I don't

559
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: think protection matters. I don't think lineup matters. I don't

560
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: think Paul Park necessarily matters. I just can't tell if

561
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: this guy's good. What do you think?

562
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: He's not replacement level, but he's kind of that, Like

563
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: he's like fantasy replacement level player. Like I feel like

564
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: you can draft him, but you could probably also find

565
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: someone else that you can draft that will do what

566
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: he does. The thirty home run or the thirty stolen bases,

567
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 2: that's why you pick him up, That's why you know,

568
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: that's what you're looking for, because even just don't I mean,

569
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking at his stats, going, don't draft twenty twenty

570
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: two version of him, because like his three seventy one

571
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 2: on base percentinge is never coming back. That's just not

572
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be a thing. And his ISO I

573
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: just was I left in my head it was point

574
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: zero eight seven, So I mean, you know, I don't

575
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: know how he hits ten home runs, but it's yeah,

576
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: I just I feel like he would be what I

577
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: would consider to be just a fantasy replacement level player.

578
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yeah, you can draft him, just don't

579
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: draft him high. You know, right now he's going into

580
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: somewhere in the fifteen sixteenth round. It's it's like I

581
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: would rather take a shot on I would rather take

582
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: a shot on an upside than draft ondre metas. So

583
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: that is however you want to look at it.

584
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think that's a good clarification that

585
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: I use the term replacement level, which I kind of

586
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: hate because I hate War as a as a metric.

587
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: We can go. That could be another show someday where I,

588
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, my war on war and how much I

589
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: hate it. But I do think it's important that I

590
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: agree he's like a fantasy replacement level type player because

591
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: of the stolen bases, and he's just kind of like

592
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: average across the board everywhere else as a regular baseball

593
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: player is very good and very valuable to a team.

594
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, he's got position versatility, he's an elite defender,

595
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: and you know that stuff matters more than it does

596
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: for us as fantasy managers. And he's still very young too,

597
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how much the batted ball stuff

598
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: is going to really improve at this point, but you know,

599
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: he's still twenty five years old. Turn in twenty six,

600
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: let's see he turns, he's so he already is twenty

601
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: six now, so he's going to be going into his

602
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: year twenty six year old season, Like that's still super young.

603
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 1: Some guys don't even you know, are in like their

604
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: second or third season as a twenty six year old.

605
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: He's already been in the league for five years. I

606
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: think he can get better. You know, he's kind of

607
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: like the opposite of Willie Damas. I don't know that

608
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,760
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609
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 1: I think he can get better, but I also I

610
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: also think the bad at ball stuff is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's just going to turn into a

612
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: power hitter. And you know, I think ten home runs

613
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,120
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Speaker 1: hundred picks and turn into a profitable better. And it

641
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: saved me from myself because I you know, I use

642
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: the systems to bet instead of betting from my heart

643
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: and my head, which has not been a profitable strategy

644
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: for me in the past, but I highly recommend it.

645
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Despite being an employee, I am an obsessed user of

646
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: the app, so I highly recommend going and getting that

647
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: app and the free premium for a month. And that

648
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: promo has been available for a while, and so I

649
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: think if you are interested, you should do it sooner,

650
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: revond later, because I think it's going to go away

651
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: pretty soon because it was kind of a push for

652
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: the end of the year, kind of get people excited

653
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: about the you know, see what we have to offer,

654
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: But it already has been live for a while, so

655
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: I don't thin it's gonna last much longer. So if

656
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: you're interested, hop in there now. And speaking of being interested,

657
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: the A's are interested in spending money again all of

658
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, which is shocking, but it seems like maybe

659
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: they kind of had to because there's a potential grievance

660
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: come in their way. If they don't spend some money

661
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: and they're moving to a new place, they're gonna have

662
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: to attract some new fans. Although they won't be there

663
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: for a few years, and so they signed Luis Severino

664
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: and they traded for Jeffrey Springs, two very intriguing moves

665
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: for different reasons. I think the first thing I kind

666
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: of looked at was and I know you and I

667
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: talked about it like a few weeks ago. I was like,

668
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: what does this ballpark look like? Though, because they're going

669
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: to play in a they're not going to be They're

670
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: vague their ballpark in Vegas isn't gonna be ready for years,

671
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: and so they're going to play at a ballpark in Sacramento.

672
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: And at first I was like, that could be terrifying.

673
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: We saw what this did when the Blue Jays did that,

674
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, at their Double A ballpark down in Dunedin,

675
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: and it was you know, very hit or friendly. It

676
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: sounds like this ballpark is surprisingly similar to their current ballpark,

677
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: and so it might be more pitcher friendly than we

678
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: were thinking. You know, I sent you like the overlay,

679
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: and it seems like the dimensions are pretty similar to

680
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: their current ballpark, except that it doesn't have that massive,

681
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: massive foul ball foul territory that uh, the Oapen Coliseum has.

682
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: So I'm not as terrified as I was before. I'm

683
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: still ify on both these guys for different reasons. But

684
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: Luis Averarno had a pretty good year last year and

685
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, parlayed it into a pretty good contract, and

686
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: we've seen him be very good in the past. He's

687
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: someone who was very good in the Yankees. And so

688
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: my initial question for you before we get into winter

689
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: and loser is is least Severino back? Is he back?

690
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: Is he back?

691
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. And the idea that this is the

692
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: biggest contract that A's have handed out like ever is

693
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: something that I'm not going to be quite over anytime soon.

694
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I think it's like a It's

695
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: like a mental trick where for me, whenever you say

696
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: a minor league ballpark, I just assume it's going to

697
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: be a bandbox that you can just hit like crazy.

698
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: And so I was surprised when we looked up the

699
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: how we think it's going to play, in which case,

700
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: I do like him a little bit better. I don't

701
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: hate the A's overall either, So I'm I'm intrigued by

702
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: what he could do out there. If it really does

703
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: play the way that they say it's going to, I

704
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm intrigued enough to draft him. I

705
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: would like to see what Sacramento is going to do

706
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: first before I take a risk. But I think, like,

707
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: as like a starting pitcher, what four on your team,

708
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: Like it's a I think you could do a lot

709
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: worse based on his kind of career numbers, and so

710
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: it's all right. I mean, I just don't think it's

711
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: his career r A is three point eight one, So

712
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean, really, you really have to draft him exactly

713
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: where you think he's going to play on your lineup

714
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: and not expect some massive turnaround from him that all

715
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: of a sudden he's gonna start striking out tons of

716
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: players again, because I mean he's struck out seven point

717
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: ninety six K nine for the last two years, literally

718
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: the same exact numbers. So I again, it's one of

719
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: those Yeah, if you can get him really late and

720
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: really cheap in drafts, then I feel like you could

721
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: do way worse. But there's nothing exciting about him.

722
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. It is funny that you said

723
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: the I didn't notice at seven point nine six was

724
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: exactly the same. Surprisingly, the K percentage is up almost

725
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: three points or I guess almost exactly two points. Yeah,

726
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: that was my one concern was that we saw when

727
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: he was with the Yankees and he kind of like

728
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: had his breakout. He was striking out over two hundred

729
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: batters a year. I don't think those days are coming back,

730
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: but he seems like he could be cromulent, you know,

731
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: in that replacement level tier if we're talking about that

732
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: for fantasy purposes. His ERA last year three point nine one.

733
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: Expected numbers are all about like four point one four

734
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: point two except for his XCRA, which is right around

735
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: his actual e RA. Early projections have him right around

736
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: four four point two, which you know, again, it's fine,

737
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: like it's not going to kill me. Ideally, if I'm

738
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: if I'm drafting someone with that kind of ear ray,

739
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: I want more strikeouts, but it's not like it strikes

740
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: out no one. You know, if he gives me ak

741
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: per nine and a four ERA, like fine, you know,

742
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to love that, but you know

743
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: he's not going to kill me either. And if I'm

744
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: in Rodo, it's someone who can you know, as long

745
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: as he's if he can go out there and throw

746
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: another one hundred and eight two hundred innings, that could

747
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: be valuable too, especially if the A's take a step forward,

748
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: and they were you know, they didn't even try last

749
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: year and they were better than we thought. And so

750
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: it's possible they were even better next season, especially if

751
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: they continue to spend some money. Jeffrey Springs is a

752
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: fascinating one. Obviously, the A's have a long history of developing.

753
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: They haven't really done that in a long time since,

754
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: you know, the days we remember of the moneyball era,

755
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: when you know, we focus on all the hitters, but

756
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: they really had a lead pitching at the same time.

757
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: And the Rays were kind of the new A's in

758
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: that we just know that anyone who goes to the

759
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Raise is going to be intriguing because of what they

760
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: do with their pitchers. And the early question I had was,

761
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I see the Rais trade away a pitcher. It's what

762
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: do the Rays know that we don't like? Why are

763
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: they moving Jeffrey Springs? And I get it. They had

764
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: rotation depth, they had depth to deal from. He has

765
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: a real contract. He doesn't have like a very expensive contract,

766
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: but it's like he's not They bought out his arbitration years,

767
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: so he is making real money. He's making link ten million.

768
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: I forget the exact number, but it's right around ten

769
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: million or something, so he is making real money, and

770
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: so I'm sure that's part of it. You know, they're

771
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, they're playing their own version of moneyball, and

772
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: so they got to move someone. They might as well

773
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: move the guy who just came off a you know,

774
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: major injury right after they signed him and didn't they

775
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: didn't really get much on their return twenty twenty five

776
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: is is cash is ten to five, so he's making

777
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: ten point five million. So if we have to look

778
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: for something, that's probably why they moved him. You know,

779
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: they need to move some money, move some money around,

780
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: try to compete in the Al East. The A's have

781
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: to at least appear that they want to spend money.

782
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: And I think Springs is a really intriguing pitcher. He's

783
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: someone who we saw before he got hurt a couple

784
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: of years ago, was in the Cion conversation. And I

785
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: don't know if we're going to see that kind of

786
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: ceiling again, but you know, and they're projecting him for

787
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty innings. I think that's probably

788
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: the max we're going to get for him. But it

789
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: is good that he came back last year. He made

790
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: seven starts. You know, he shook the cob webs off

791
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: and down the strats. He looked pretty good. And you know,

792
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued by him. He did strike out more

793
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: than one per nine innings, and I think we can

794
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: see that again. They're projecting him to just for just

795
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: under nine, but I think he can he can beat

796
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: that projection. So I'm intrigued. I don't know that I

797
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: can call someone who got traded away from the Rays

798
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: to the A's a winner, but especially in the same

799
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: thing for Severno, you know, going from the Mets who

800
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: just signed mon Soto to the A's, I don't know that.

801
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can call anyone playing in

802
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: a you know, a Triple league, a Triple A ballpark

803
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: for a little while, a winner. But I am intrigued.

804
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on Jeffrey Springs? Now that

805
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: I've poisoned your thoughts, that's.

806
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't listen to you anyway.

807
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: But I.

808
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: Have the exact opposite feeling about Jeffrey Springs that I

809
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: do about Blake Snell, in that I irrationally love him

810
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: for no apparent reason whatsoever. So chances are good that

811
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: I will buy it right back into him this year,

812
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: probably draft him around or two before I should. I

813
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: like his numbers. I think that, like you said, he

814
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: came back and got rid of some of the post

815
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: surgery you know, how does my arm work now? Type

816
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: of of uh of cobwebs. But I again, I I yeah,

817
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: it's the same. Like I don't know how a Sacramento

818
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: is gonna play, but I love like his strikeout numbers

819
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: and where he's been kind of throughout his career. So

820
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: so yeah, I guess I'm I'm in on him, probably

821
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: to my own peril, but uh he's Yeah, he's the

822
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: anti Blake Snell or me. But I just it is amazing.

823
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: Do players know that when the Rays trade you and

824
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: you're a pitcher, that, like everyone in the fantasy community goes, oh,

825
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with you. Like, I mean, do they

826
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: have any idea that that's the signal that something has

827
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: gone off? Because yeah, that's that's the only thing. I mean,

828
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: if any other team had traded him, we wouldn't be

829
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: having this conversation and be like, oh, yeah, this is great.

830
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: But because it was Tampa, we're like, oh, what should

831
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: we do with that. So, yeah, I find that really interesting.

832
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna draft him, and that's you know, that's it.

833
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm in a pretty similar spot myself. I've

834
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: always liked him. I'm going to try and not overdraft him,

835
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: but I will have a few shares this year for sure,

836
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: depending on unless his you know, stock really jumps, then

837
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I probably won't. But if it stays reasonable, I'll, you know,

838
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: I'll have a few. I wanted to close it out

839
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: with kind of just a pile of these guys. I

840
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that we need to spend a ton

841
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: of time talking about any of them in particular. I

842
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: didn't think any of them warranted their own kind of section,

843
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: but I did want to hit, you know, as much

844
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: of the major moves as I could see. Who kind

845
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: of strikes, strikes, out stands out a nice baseball pun

846
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: as interesting for one reason or another, Any biggest winners

847
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: or biggest loser. So I'll just run through the list

848
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: real quick, and then you know, we can kind of

849
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: hit who we want to talk about, trying not to

850
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: butcher those guy's name, but tomy Yuki Sugano signed with

851
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: the Orioles. He's someone we talked about a little bit already,

852
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: so we can start with him. Devin Williams gets traded

853
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: to the Yankees for Nestra Cortes. Two interesting moves right there,

854
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: you say, Kakuchi goes to the Angels. Sorry, sorry for that,

855
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: you say, Kakuchi, I'm sorry that happened to you. Nathan

856
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: Havaldi resigns with the Rangers. Clay Holmes signs with the Mets.

857
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: But as I mentioned earlier, it seems like they're going

858
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: to try him out as a starter. So that's, you know,

859
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of like the Michael King experiment. We'll see how

860
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: that go. Seth Lugo. Jake Berger traded to the Rangers.

861
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: Is intriguing. Anytime you got out of Miami, it's good

862
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: for you. Shane Bieber re signs with the Guardians. Tyler

863
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: O'Neil signed with the Orioles. Jordan Romano signs with the Phillies.

864
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Alex Cobbs signs with the Tigers. Michael confordo to the Dodgers.

865
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: The Dodgers can't keep getting away with this. So a

866
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: few real quick notes and then I'll toss it to

867
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: you because I'm talking a lot. Devin Williams obvious winner

868
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: going to the Yankees, going to be the closer of

869
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Good for you. As long as he's healthy,

870
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna should once again be one of the best

871
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: closers in baseball. He should continue to be drafted as such.

872
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Romano to the Phillies is intriguing. He's had you know,

873
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: some rough injury luck and rough. It seems like he

874
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: goes out and like he'll allow you know, he'll he'll

875
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: close like three games and then he'll allow like four

876
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: runs and you're like, oh good, what's the injury. I

877
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: know it's coming, And like the next morning he's going

878
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: on the al that seemed to happen. Like I have

879
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: like group chats where we talk about closers like way

880
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: too much, and it's like someone will be like, oh god,

881
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: Jordan Romano is about to go down again, and the

882
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: next day he does. But the thing with the Phillies

883
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: is like he depending on what happens the rest of

884
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: the off season, like he's currently projected to be their closer,

885
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: Like he could be the closer of the Phillies. So

886
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: he's a potential by to see what happens. You know,

887
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have to spend a ton of draft

888
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: capital on Jordanmano, but you know the closer for the

889
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: Philly size value, you say, Kakuchi, don't love him going

890
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: to the Angels. Don't really love anyone going to the

891
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: Angels until further notice. Nathan Valdi resigning with the Rangers.

892
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot changes there. Jake Berger to the

893
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: Rangers is intriguing. You know, he got off to like

894
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: a really slow start last year, but then kind of

895
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: looked better the second half of the season. Tyler O'Neill

896
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: to the Orioles. I think it's a downgrade from Fenway

897
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: Park for him. He mentioned being a little surprised that

898
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: the Red Soxs weren't that interested. It is worth noting

899
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: the Orioles are moving that left field fence back in

900
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: a little bit this season, much to the delight of

901
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: the Ryan Nowncastle stands out there like me. So that

902
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: is intriguing, But I don't think you can really, you know,

903
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: draft him aggressively based on you know, he got hurt

904
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: again last year. I think if you're gonna have a

905
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: career year as a right handed power hitter who lifts

906
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: like that, I think Fenway Park's were you gonna do it.

907
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: He had like a good year, but I don't think

908
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: you can really project a better year with the Orioles.

909
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: Clay Holmes is intriguing, depending on where his draft price

910
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: is because his pencil had been be a starter with

911
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: the Mets, and Shane Bieber resigns with the Guardians intriguing.

912
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping maybe the Red Sox would

913
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: take a fire on him, because you know, you're really

914
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: buying low on someone like Shaneieber right now, and maybe

915
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe he turns it around and you know, now he's

916
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: back with the Guardians, he's healthy. And then Michael CONFORDO.

917
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what the Dodgers do with him.

918
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't really have the worst righty lefty splits, but

919
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: I would imagine the Dodgers, you know, they love righty

920
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: lefty matchups and making their lineups that way. I imagine

921
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be like a platoon player for them.

922
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he plays seventy percent of the time,

923
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: which is going to be good these on the Dodgers,

924
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: but badly he's not in your lineup every day. But

925
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, you know, maybe he plays every day

926
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: for them. You never know with them, and I think

927
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I had everyone so over to you, who stands out

928
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: to you winner loser? Disagree with me, agree with me?

929
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: What do you got my I'm.

930
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it. I Devin Williams is the

931
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: obvious winner there, I think, or the Yankees or the

932
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: obvious winner there. I also like Jake Berger a lot

933
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: with the Rangers. I think that they've got a good

934
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: line up around him, and he can his RBI numbers

935
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: should be really solid there, so that that's probably the

936
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: one that I have the biggest swing on, the one

937
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: that I'm most willing to target. And then Romano, like

938
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: you said, I mean Shane Bieber. He's another one that

939
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: I really used to love and tried to draft as

940
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: much as possible. So I think, yeah, if he can

941
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: kind of come back even like seventy five eighty percent

942
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: of what he used to be, that, I mean, that's

943
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: the solid like SP three to me. So so I'm

944
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: definitely intrigued by him. I did laugh when Alex Cobb

945
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: said that he wasn't sure he was going to get

946
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: signed like anywhere, Like he didn't. I think he talked

947
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: about that he might hang it up or something. And

948
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the Tigers are like, here

949
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: is a giant contract. He's like, oh, okay, he could

950
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: be good. I mean I don't. I never know what

951
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: to do with him either, but yeah, and Kakuchi, it's

952
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: one of those ex I have that same feeling exactly

953
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: like where I just don't want anyone to play for

954
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: the Angels until they figure things out. But he, you know,

955
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: he could be all right out there too. It's he

956
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: surprises me, I think everywhere he goes, and it's kind

957
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: of that same like fantasy firework, where most of the

958
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: time it's going to look pretty consistent, and one week

959
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: he will absolutely kill your ratios and I had to

960
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: head matchups. That's the risk with him, but I'm not

961
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: anti drafting him as long as the price is good.

962
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, I always kind of find myself very down

963
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: on him, and then I'm surprised that he's His numbers

964
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: look the way they do. And you mentioned Alex Cobb.

965
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: I barely even touched on him because for like the

966
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: reasons you mentioned, I have a lot of Alex Cob

967
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: fatigue because I've always been intrigued by Alex Cobb and

968
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: his stuff and he's just like even in his like

969
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: healthy years quote unquote, he's not healthy, and you just

970
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: you know you're going to burn an eye ol slot

971
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: with him for half the year and then what you

972
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: do get is you know, middling. And so yeah, that's

973
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: where I'm at on that. But I do want to

974
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: toss it to the audience, So I should have mentioned

975
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: this earlier. But in the YouTube comments, let us know

976
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: who you think is your biggest winner biggest loser. You know,

977
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: if you agree with us, disagree with us. You know,

978
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: is Willie Domas, is Andre Sameniz Good? Can you make

979
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: the argument that Juan Soto made a mistake going to

980
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: the Mets for any other reason other than it made

981
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Joe piece of be a happy, which we don't like

982
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: to see happen. And the other thing I want to

983
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: talk about before we get out of here is there

984
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: are still a lot of big names yet to sign. Corbyn, Burns,

985
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: Alex Pregman, Peter Lonzo, Jack Flaherty, Anthony Santander, Tiascar, Hernandez

986
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: John and Iya, Christian Walker, Labor Torres. The list goes

987
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: on that those are kind of like the my list

988
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: of the top remaining guys. I asked, you know, everyone

989
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: in the audience. You know, listeners make a prediction for

990
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: where you think these guys are going to sign. Is

991
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns or Alex Pragman going to go to the

992
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Red Sox. I've seen a lot of Alex bregmant to

993
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: the Red Sox talk. I thought for sure he was

994
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: just going to go back to the Astros, but you know,

995
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: it looks like they're looking elsewhere. They tried to trade

996
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: for Nolan Aronado where he said no, thank you. I

997
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: haven't heard a whole lot about Corvin Burns recently. Like

998
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: I said before, I think the Max fred contract kind

999
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: of broke the market and so not really sure what's

1000
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: going to happen there. I hope for his sake he

1001
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: signed student rather than later and it doesn't turn into

1002
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: like a Blake Snail situation. But I assume there are

1003
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: enough teams out there like desperate for pitching that someone's

1004
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: going to pay up. I do think the Max Freed

1005
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: contract made things interesting. Pete Alonso fascinating free agent target

1006
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: for teams, a lot of power, batting average has been

1007
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: all over the place. You know, what's his market look like?

1008
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: Does he take a team friendly deal to go back

1009
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: to the Mets because of want soda. Does he go

1010
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: somewhere else that you know needs a right handed power bat.

1011
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Maybe the Yankees get their revenge and bring him over

1012
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: to the Bronx to get back at the Mets. Jack

1013
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: flaherty fascinating return last year. Could be interesting to see

1014
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: what kind of contract he gets out. You know, I

1015
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: think teams are a little scared about the health and

1016
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: performance issues stuff. Yeah, any thoughts on any of these

1017
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: guys where you think they're gonna go.

1018
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I can see the Cubs signing

1019
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: Bregman after having brought in Tucker because they desperately need

1020
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: a third baseman. And then other than that, yeah, I don't.

1021
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: I think Alonso's gonna end up in New York, But

1022
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: which side really sure? So? But yeah, when you brought

1023
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: it up, I haven't heard anything about Burns in a

1024
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: really long time, so I assume he's he's They're talking

1025
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: to everybody and pointing at Max Freed's contract a lot,

1026
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: so I don't really know who wants to pay out

1027
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: for him, but somebody will give him plenty of years,

1028
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: so it's coming. But that's those are my thoughts on

1029
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: the free agents who have yet to sign.

1030
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: All right, that's all the time we have for today.

1031
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. Thank you to Kelly for

1032
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: being here and doing this with me. I'm very interested

1033
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts, So drop those you two comments

1034
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: and let me know who you think the biggest winners

1035
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: and losers are and make some predictions for MB free agency,

1036
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: because I think there's a fascinating list of names still

1037
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: out there, and you know, Corbyn Burns being the biggest one,

1038
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm most interested to see where he

1039
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: goes and what that contract is because I think Max

1040
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Freed broke everything and I think the Dodgers are just

1041
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: dancing a victory dance once again because they signed Blake

1042
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Snell before the Max Freed contract and now they don't

1043
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. But thank you all for

1044
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: stopping by for Kelly Kirby. I'm Mike Maher and we'll

1045
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,440
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1046
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,239
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