1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: When you have your goal and it's your goal and 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: not somebody else's goal, then you're going to be more 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: inspired to chase and pursue that goal. And so it's 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: about taking the steps forward, progress, taking care of yourself 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: and building that stamina. And it doesn't happen overnight. But 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: if the goal kind of makes you clench your teeth 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: and nerves and determination and like make your heart flutter, 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: it's probably the right goal. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abody here coming to you from the 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: AG Studio. 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Snack some 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: for yourself and try out the drink that I have 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: been starting my day with for over three years now. 44 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: For today's episode, I am amped to bring you my 45 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: conversation with Alison Tetric. She is a professional cyclist and 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: coming in to chat us through all of the things 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: you need to know if you are a total newbie 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: on the bike. Cycling has been something that I have 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: gotten into a lot more over the past couple of years, 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: logging miles all over the New New York area and beyond. 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: And when I got into it and we got my 52 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: first road bike. 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 3: My road bike is a specialized rube. 54 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: I yeah, I didn't know a lot at all, and 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: a lot of the things that we talk about in 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: today's episode I wish I knew back then. We cover 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: everything from safety tips and recommendations for a better bike setup, 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: to the gear that you need, what you should rebring 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: along with you on your rides in terms of nutrition, 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: the fun fact about underwear on cycling spoiler alert, you 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: don't really need it, and so much more. I really 62 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: appreciate Allison because she's got like such a. 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: No bs perspective. 64 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: She's super straightforward and she's also super compassionate. 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With that, let's get to hurdling today. 86 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Alison Tetric. She is a pro 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: cyclist and just the woman I need to bring you 88 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: so much good info about all things cycling. 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: How are you doing today, Al, I'm doing great. 90 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: It's uh in the morning here still. 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I live Minsonoma County, which is some really good cycling area, 92 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: and it's a little foggy, so I'm a I'm a 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: warm weather rider. 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 4: It's solar powered, it's waiting, waiting for the sun. 95 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: Solar powered. I love that. How long have you been cycling? 96 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: So I've raced. 97 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: At the you know, UCI World Tour level, think you know, 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: Tour de France for about ten years, and I joined 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: Specialized about four years ago and found all things gravel 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: and got a little more gravel in my travel and 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: race for them. So we're going, you know, twelve thirteen 102 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: years strong. I played NCAA tennis, so cycling was not 103 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: my first sport. I grew up on a cattle ranch 104 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: in California, and just the bike is a great way 105 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: to express myself, find free them and explore new places. 106 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, that is why. So I had dabbled in cycling 107 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: for a few years now, but last year during COVID, 108 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: cycling became like one hundred percent my outlet. You use 109 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: the word freedom like it felt like via my bike, 110 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: I had the freedom to just like get out of 111 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: the bubble and escape the anxiety that was like so 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: much of the uncontrollable. 113 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, bike therapy is a real thing, you know, whether 114 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: it's alone and you and your bicycle or you and 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: your girlfriends, it's a bike therapy is a thing, right. 116 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: It's a real thing. So you talked about growing up 117 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: and playing different sports. When did you start to think 118 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: that being a more avid rider and perhaps taking this 119 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: to the pro level could be something in your wheelhouse? 120 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Frankly, I mean, I've just been working on this project 121 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: about heroes creating heroes. And I grew up a little rogue, 122 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, a little wild West out in this ranch. 123 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: It was really remote, and my parents are both athletes. 124 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: My mom is really competitive tennis players still but she's 125 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: pretty title nine, so you know, you just don't think 126 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: about that now. But my dad played football for UCLA, 127 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: their high school sweethearts, and just kind of growing up 128 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Annie Oakley style out there with no. 129 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: Parameters and rules. 130 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: So I didn't know, like girls do this and boys 131 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: do that, and you know, and then I just picked 132 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: up a tennis racket because my mom was and you know, 133 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: it's following athletes like Serena Williams, who's you know, a 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: little older than me but still kind of you know, 135 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: just breaking through those barriers. And then you know, here 136 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: I am, and I'm a professional athlete and Serena's still 137 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: like kicking ass and taking names. Like it's amazing to see, 138 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Like how when we can see strong athletes like what happens? 139 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: And it was actually my grandfather and he was, you know, 140 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: seventy five at the time, and he's elbowing me and 141 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: telling me, I should, you know, try bike racing. And 142 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I thought that was like the dorkiest thing, right, like 143 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, like those Neon colors which now are in 144 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: but at the time we're not, and like the tight 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: clash and you know, the big glasses, and I was like, 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: this is door ky, like I like tennis skirts and 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: getting my nails done. And he just kept telling me, 148 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: and he steered me towards the bike, and I hopped 149 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: on a bike and within three months, I'm racing for 150 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the USA national team in Europe. I've podium at the 151 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: World Championships and you know, three time gravel World Championships 152 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: and all this stuff now and I think it's just 153 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: literally knowing that those barriers and gender stereotypes and societal 154 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: constructs that don't exist sometimes like if we just keep 155 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: flowing through and I fell in love with I think 156 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: it's just mainly expressing myself on the bike, Like you 157 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: were talking about anxiety, and you can have a lot 158 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: of energy, as you can tell, and it's like funneling that. 159 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: And it was competitive, yes, but I think it was 160 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: just really a great experiment and like how far I 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: could challenge myself, push myself just to be better at something. 162 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: I definitely think there's no denying that you must have 163 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: had like a certain amount of natural talent, right, I mean, 164 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: you don't just hop in a bike and four months 165 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: later see the kind of success that you did because 166 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: you not that you weren't working hard, but you had 167 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: to start with some sort of a baseline here, especially 168 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: as a legacy athlete. 169 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. 170 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, there was some gift to it, 171 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: But I don't think that should be disappointing or you know, 172 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: too challenging for people like you don't have to always 173 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: be naturally gifted at something. And I was reaching some 174 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: pitfalls in the first part of my career with some 175 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: injuries and I survived to traumatic brain injury, and I'm 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: just trying to come back and you know, everyone's telling 177 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: me what I should do and how I should perform. 178 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 4: And I was really struggling. 179 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: And it was talking to Connie Carpenter, who is the 180 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist in cycling from nineteen eighty four and 181 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four is the first year with women were 182 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: allowed to race bikes in the Olympics. 183 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: How is that possible? 184 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: And I am just struggling because you know, with the 185 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: pressure we put on ourselves, the pressure we experienced from 186 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: others and exceeding expectations. 187 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: And I'm going, I don't know if I can do this. 188 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: And I was really down, and she said, you know, 189 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: you get to wake up every morning and just try 190 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: to be better at something like how blessed is that? 191 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: You know, like you got to just wake up every 192 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: morning and try to be better. And so, yes, there's gifts. 193 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: And athletic prowess and all of that, but also for me, 194 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: it's just a challenge and what I can do for myself, 195 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to compare myself to others, Like 196 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: I want to just do the best I can. 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: So I think that to me is my love of sport. 198 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: The traumatic brain injury caused from a cycling accident or 199 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: not caused from a cycling accident, yep. 200 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: Traumatic brain injury was in a professional bike race and 201 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: life flighted out seizures. And the problem with that is 202 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I came back too soon. You know, this is a 203 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: little pre an NFL making concussions like a very prominent discussion, 204 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: which is great now, but I had a broken pelvis too, 205 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: I can't walk. 206 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of other issues where you 207 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: just don't. 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Realize that you should be looking at your mental health, 209 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: health of your brain, you know, all of that. So 210 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I came back and arguably it was probably one of 211 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: my factus years of my career most successful. It was 212 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: also one of my most unhappy, like horrible years. And 213 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I just didn't realize that I couldn't read, I wasn't 214 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: go mentally functioning and all that. And then I crashed 215 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: again at the Pan American Games and just kind of 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: fluky thing concussion on top of the TBI within eight 217 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: months and then it was just lights out where that's 218 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: when you're like, I'm not okay, and it's actually we'll 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: bring it back to the start of our conversation as 220 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my childhood bed because I can't drive, 221 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I can't function, so I like go back to the 222 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: ranch with my parents, right and I'm sitting there and 223 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: I remember just staring at that poster Srita Williams still. 224 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: On my wall, you know, going to like how am 225 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: I back here? 226 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: At the time, it was such a low moment where 227 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't think, like, what was the blessing? You know, 228 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: people like, oh, there's a light at the end of 229 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: the tunnel. You know, everyone says all those things like 230 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: think about the positive. Remember being so angry, being like 231 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: there was actually nothing positive about this. Ten years later, 232 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: I go, oh no, And when you're that low, the 233 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: only way you can go is up. And that's the 234 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: only positive I can find now. Still, but it made 235 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: me address my mental health. I raced on antidepressants for 236 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: a year and then I realized, through you know, therapy 237 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: and working on myself that I choose my health over results. 238 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: And that's where we go into don't compare yourself to others, 239 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: like meet yourself where you're at. Your presence is your power, 240 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, things like that, and I firmly believe. 241 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: That now, Alison, thanks so much for sharing all of that. 242 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that this is a hot topic 243 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: right now in the scheme of professional athleticism and athletes 244 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: speaking out about their mental health. Right Like you were 245 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: saying you were at the top of your game, but 246 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: the lowest that you had felt mentally, And it's just 247 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: so important hearing your new stance and all of these 248 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: takeaways and clearly to an extent, like they're almost a 249 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: mantra for you right now, like you just spewed them 250 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: out like one after the one after the one after 251 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: the next, you know, like you are so dialed in 252 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: on what's important. Like, yes, we're made to feel like 253 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: our value in our worth comes with how we associate, right, 254 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: so if you're associating as a cyclist and you're performing 255 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: well as a cyclist, then everything must be great. 256 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: But that's not really how it is at the end 257 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: of the day. 258 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: No, it's it's not. And I think that's the biggest 259 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, look at the Olympics. You know, these takeaways 260 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: we get from these incredible athletes that you know, athletes 261 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: aren't robots, but you don't even have to be a 262 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: professional athlete to not be a robot. None of us 263 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: are right, you know, And it's about it's like, yeah, 264 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: just really honing in on where you are in that 265 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: moment and what you can do with your your power. 266 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: And sometimes that's saying no and you know, getting rid 267 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: of toxic relationships, not putting expectations on yourself. 268 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: And other times it's. 269 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Challenging and going for the metal or you know, finishing 270 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: your first marathon or something, you know, and I think 271 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: that's super cool. And I learned, I mean to take 272 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: some therapy, but it was identify myself as just an 273 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: athlete and I'm not. I'm you know, cowgirl, I'm a daughter, 274 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm a biochemist, I'm an entrepreneur. You know, I'm a founder, 275 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm all these things. Once I didn't just identify myself 276 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: as an athlete as a cyclist, I actually performed better. 277 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I was happier. And then finding that life balance was 278 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: really key. So that's something I always talk to people 279 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: that maybe they want to pursue a professional career in 280 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: sports or just in life too. Right, we have a 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: hard time sometimes balancing that. And I realized I don't 282 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,119 Speaker 1: want to miss baby showers anymore, and you know, weddings 283 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: and unfortunately funerals, right like you you want to find. 284 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: That life balance where you're not as sterile. 285 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: And there's a saying like happy athletes go faster, you 286 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: know type thing, and I think that's true what you. 287 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: Pointed out about finding your sense of self worth and 288 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: understanding that you are so many things that can carry 289 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: you beyond just these instances of injury. When it comes 290 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: to identifying your purpose and your why, it will also 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: help you thrive and like all the other relationships that 292 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: go hand in hand with all the other ways that 293 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: you identify. 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and it's just about yeah, purpose of your why, 295 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: which we'll get into. Put that as one of my 296 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: talking points for later, is you know, remembering your why 297 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: and then also knowing that that's totally fluid sometimes, like 298 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: it's okay to change your mind, like you're fixated on 299 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: a century and the weather looks bad, or you know 300 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: your family life is in chaos, like maybe just toges 301 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: your why for a second and that's okay too, right. 302 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: I think that's really important. 303 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Definitely definitely. 304 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: So, I mean, wow, your story is incredible and I'm 305 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: so grateful to have you here, not only to touch 306 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: on that, but then also to dive into what we're 307 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: really here to talk about today, which is talking about 308 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: best practice tips for new cyclists. So you have a 309 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: ton of experience under your belt before we really get 310 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty. 311 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: If you reflect right now about your. 312 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: Initial days cycling, before you realize maybe just how obscenely 313 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: talented you were, is there anything that you wish someone 314 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: told you right off the bat that you know now? 315 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh man, So I now biker shorts, like is a 316 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: thing which is really funny to me, right, like you 317 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: could buy in it. I don't know, like this is 318 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: what they're wearing, right, but not like actually cycling shorts is. 319 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: They're called biker shorts, which I think is funny. I 320 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: always thought they were a little long. So I I 321 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: got some cycling shorts. I bought them at you know, 322 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Big five or something, and I rolled them up because 323 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: I was used to tennis and I wanted I was 324 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: worried about panlines. And now looking at those photos, I'm 325 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: like wearing like a sports fra rolled up shorts, rolled 326 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: down short socks. 327 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: Totally fun. 328 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: But now I'm thinking about the sun damage on my back, Like, 329 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, why was I riding around for hours on 330 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: end getting sunburned, and my first bike race, I didn't 331 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: one of the rules for USA Cycling, you know, our 332 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: governing body. So if you want to go to a 333 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: bike race, like one of the rules different different to 334 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: triathlon is you have to have a jersey with sleep 335 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: But I didn't own one. And I was visiting my 336 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: grandparents in Colorado, and so I wore one of my 337 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: Grampy's jerseys and I put it on, I zip it up, 338 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: and I get to the start line. And so pedals 339 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: are a thing we'll talk about, but you clip into 340 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: your pedals where you have to just you know, move 341 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: your ankle to unclip from it. And I was really 342 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the fact of being clipped into my bike, 343 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: so I didn't know how to clip in. I was 344 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: terrified to clip out because I just would spontaneously fall 345 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: over it, you know, traffic lights and things. So I'm 346 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: at the start line in my first race wearing my 347 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: like grampees, like Colorado State champion, my ship jersey, and 348 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm just going, Okay, Alison, you're 349 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna clip in, You're gonna put your pedal your foot 350 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: down and you're going to clip it and then you're 351 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna pedal, and I'm like, what if I fall over? 352 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: And like Domino, all these women like what's going to happen? 353 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: And I'm getting I'm like so nervous and I'm so 354 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: ready to race. And then the you know, referee or 355 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, whatever commis there, says and he points at 356 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: me and he's like, her number is on backwards. So 357 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: like also, like, you pin your number and it should 358 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: read a certain way, but I pinned it where I 359 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: could see it, but then when you're on your bike, 360 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: it's the wrong way. And so there's my my grandparents 361 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: coming like, oh, we'll get it, and I'm, you know, 362 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five years old, like have my 363 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: grandma like be fixing my number? 364 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 4: And everyone in the start line is just like, oh god, 365 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: she's never done this before. 366 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: And then sure enough the race goes and I can't 367 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: clip in, and I'm like stamping my foot down. I 368 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: don't want to fall, and the race is gone, and 369 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: I look up at my grandpa and he's like. 370 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: Just go like, but I can't clip in. He's like 371 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. But it was a good experience. 372 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: It was a good experience. It was a good experience, 373 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: and it was your first experience. And I think an 374 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: important thing that we need to say as we go 375 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 2: on in this conversation is don't judge that start too harshly, right, Like, 376 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: it's a start for a reason. The fact that you're 377 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: willing to put yourself out there and try something new, 378 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: whether it's cycling or you know, it could be anything. 379 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: That's a really exciting moment for you to be a 380 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: beginner because you only get to be a beginner once 381 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: and reflect on these stories and hopefully look back and 382 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: like laugh a fair amount. So, Okay, we learned clipping 383 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: in can be tough. 384 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't fall over, but yeah, that can be really tough. 385 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: And I agree, Like. 386 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm jealous, like I've done in this sport long 387 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: enough now where I'm like, oh wow, I'm a. 388 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: Veteran, and. 389 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm sometimes jealous of beginners, you know, when you have 390 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: that fire in your belly and no sense of failure yet, 391 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: And I'm always like, oh, man, she's a fighter and 392 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: she's never failed, Like she's never been life lighted out 393 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: of a canyon, she's never followed her at the grocery 394 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: store she's never like, oh wow, and you missed that part, right, 395 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: You're that innocence of just starting and going as hard 396 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: as you can and not knowing your limits because unfortunately, 397 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: I've you know, met some of my limits in my career. 398 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: So and then it goes to start lines too, and 399 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: I think that's an important topic. Is sometimes I think 400 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: we glorify finish lines too much. You know, how did 401 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: you do? Like what was your place versus were you 402 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: brave enough. 403 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: To just start? 404 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 1: You know, like I think that's like super impressive to me, 405 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: is like people picking a goal and starting, like isn't 406 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: that like? And maybe sometimes you can't finish and that's 407 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: okay too, But we always try and glorifying the start 408 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: lines because those are really hard, you know, like you're 409 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: putting your neck on the one. 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, what a beautiful takeaway. I love that start. 411 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Glorifying the start lines is going to be the new 412 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: the new catchphrase for the. 413 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: Start lines, like isn't it great? 414 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: Like we all like because at that point you're all together, right, 415 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: there's no finish yet, you know, you're all just embarking 416 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: on this thing like a challenge or I don't want 417 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: to say journey that sounds awful arm, but you know 418 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: you're starting on this and everyone has different expectations and 419 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: I think those are really beautiful to celebrate. 420 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely. 421 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: So Okay, we talked about your clothing mishaps, so maybe 422 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: let's kick start this there as well, talking about what 423 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: we need to know about gear when it comes to 424 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: wanting to become more regular cyclist. 425 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Bibs are a cycling must have. And I know bibs 426 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: are kind of weird. So for those that don't know 427 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: or do no, like, there's shorts and then there's bibs 428 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: and bibs. To me, they have I calm suspenders and 429 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I know that's not the appropriate thing, but they they 430 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: kind of pull up over your shoulders and cycling shorts 431 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: and bibs have padding on your but you know, for 432 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: more comfort and a good set of bibs. They are expensive, 433 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: but they're really worth it. And then women sometimes go 434 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: a lit bibs. I do the shorts. I don't know, 435 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go real on this is muffin top is 436 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: a thing. 437 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: You know. 438 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: The shorts like cut in your stomach and bibs like 439 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: it's a smooth transition because there's no like cinch around 440 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: your waist, so it's nice when you lean over. You know, 441 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: everything's like compressed. It's very comfortable for heat and sweat 442 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: as well as I think esthetically it looks good and 443 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: then you get worried about having to pee because you know, 444 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: the shorts are easier just to pull down. But I 445 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: race for specialized but they have like I call it 446 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: free to pee, and I know it's not called that, 447 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: but it has a little magnetic thing in the back 448 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: where you can just kind of drop tail and you're 449 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: able to go to the bathroom without completely disrobing, which 450 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: is nice. But comfort on the bike is big. If 451 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: you're not comfortable, you don't enjoy riding. And I think 452 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: that's like a big thing because I think some women 453 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: and men, you know, you start riding and you're not comfortable, 454 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: and then you're kind of like, hey, this sport might 455 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: not be for me. But you know, if you can 456 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: dial in the comfort factor, which I have a few 457 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: other tips on, I think that's a really cool thing. 458 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: I actually love suspenders free short, but I agree with 459 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: you that I do think that this silhouette can be 460 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: like just like that, like extra, Like I want to say, 461 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: like skims level of flattering when you go with like 462 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: the suspenders style. So to each their own. I also 463 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: love a cycling short that has cargo pockets. That's like 464 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: my like goldilocks. Find that it's not always easy to 465 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: find that like perfect pocketed bibs, but I will in 466 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: the show notes to this episode, I'll throw a couple 467 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: of links into my favorite styles. 468 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: You also mentioned comfort being key. 469 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: What other tips do you have about being more comfortable 470 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: on the bike as a newbie. 471 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so every body's different, So my bike fit isn't 472 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: going to look like your bike fit. And that's why 473 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: going to a professional that has seen a lot of 474 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: athletes and has experience in that space will be really 475 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: beneficial because, let's be real, pressure points on a bike 476 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: are pretty key. So you got undercarriage pressure, hands, feet, 477 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and so how you set yourself up on that bike 478 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: will really dictate how much you enjoy writing it. 479 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: I love the phrase undercarriage like such a like politically 480 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: correct nice way to be. 481 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: Like your ass is going to kill you if you 482 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: don't take care of it. 483 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you don't want to like experience birth control 484 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: via the bike. 485 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Right, definitely definitely not okay? So a couple of things 486 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: to be mindful of when it comes to comfort. We 487 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: talked about your gear and your setup. We also talked 488 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: about your bike fit. Something else that I think is 489 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: really important, which you had referenced in your first race 490 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: as being a faux pas, is having good socks. 491 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: Why are socks important? 492 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: I love the socks for I think the compression actually helps. 493 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: I don't wear long compression socks, but I wear like 494 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: a mid calf length. And then you're sweating a lot. 495 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: If you think about it, it's it's similar to running. 496 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: But if there's a lot of sweat, a good pair 497 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: of shoes works well. 498 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: Carbon soles. 499 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: You're really connected to the bike, So a good pair 500 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: of socks mixed with a good pair of shoes, like 501 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I think it's just about that connection to the bike. 502 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: And then you don't want swamp foot, right, so you 503 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: just want like a cycling socks are thinner than you think, 504 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: and I think buying a good pair of socks with 505 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: paired with the shoes and the petals, it really makes 506 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: sense for that feel. And one tip that might seem 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: awkward to people, back to the bibs real quick. I 508 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: use shammy butter, but it's a shammy cream and it's 509 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: weird because it's just kind of an anti chafing caream. 510 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: You put back to that undercarriage thing and that really helps, 511 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: like you know, lubricate things are moving around and you're 512 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: not chafing when you do those, you know, whether it's 513 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: just spin class around the road. 514 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 515 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: And something else to point out here, which I it 516 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: took me like months of cycling before someone told me 517 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: this that you're not supposed to wear underwear with your bibs. 518 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot to bring that up. Correct, do not 519 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: wear underwear? You have the diaper. 520 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: I call it a diaper sy I'm not making this 521 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: sound very glamorous, but you got the pad and I 522 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: always just like kind of feel like you're wearing a diaper. 523 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: So I don't do underwear. 524 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: And then this might be TMI, but if you're on 525 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: your period or menstruating, I actually just tend to not 526 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: put anything in because that could also cause uncomfort and 527 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: so you just wash your clothes. I don't know if 528 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: that might be too much. 529 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 530 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: I mean to use their own right. Do we know, 531 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: like why we're not supposed to be wearing underwear with 532 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: cycling bibs. 533 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Cycling bibs are designed kind of with the built in underwear, 534 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: with the paddy the contours to deal with everything that's 535 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: going on whether you're male or female down there. And 536 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: if you do underwear, what happens is you're just causing 537 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: like you're taking away what the bib or the show 538 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: what was designed for and you're adding more like clothing folds, 539 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: and that can cause that chaping, rubbing, little raw spots. 540 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: So I think it's just letting the clothing do what 541 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: it was designed to do. 542 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to you 543 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: about my sponsor at Gooder. 544 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest. 545 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: I lent a pair of my Gooder sunglasses to one 546 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: of my best friends when he was here last week, 547 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: and he may or may not have accidentally taken them, 548 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: and I am feeling absolutely lost. 549 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 550 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: I realized in gifting these glasses accidentally to my friend 551 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: that I am beyond obsessed with Gooder. 552 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: And here's why. 553 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: Gooder sunglasses are super super lightweight and they are no bounce, 554 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: all polarized and perfect for whatever activity I have on deck. 555 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: I have tried so many active geared sunglasses. 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There's mobile services. 579 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: It could be a partner, a friend, but we're traveling 580 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: on these bicycles that you know, relatively high speeds and things. 581 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: Can go wrong. 582 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: It's held together by bolts, and it's carbon fiber most likely, 583 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: And so making sure your bike is properly set up, 584 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: functioning and safe once again more enjoyable and a better experience. 585 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 586 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: And you brought you brought up a buzz phrase here 587 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: which we should tap into real quick, which is saying 588 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: that most likely your bike is carbon fibers. So there 589 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: are going to be different types of bikes that you 590 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: can get, especially as a beginner. The first thing that 591 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: I will say is, of course they come at all 592 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: different price points, in a wide variety, with a wide 593 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: variety of options. But generally speaking, you know, a bike 594 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: that might be smoother for you to ride is certainly 595 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: going to start to get up there in price as well. 596 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the sport as a whole certainly 597 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: has like a steep entry point when it comes to 598 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: cost associated with it. So for newbies that are trying 599 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: to perhaps select their first bike, what would you say 600 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: to them in terms of things to look for, what 601 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: to keep in mind? 602 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it depends what your purpose of 603 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: the bike is whether you want a hybrid bike, you know, 604 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: mountain bike to road bike kind of hybrid, more comfortable 605 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: fit traditional road bike, you know, think the little skinny 606 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: tires and drop bars. I ride a lot of gravel, 607 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: which I think gives me some flexibility to ride wider tires, 608 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: so I feel safer. I can take it off road, 609 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: I can take it on road not lose any sort 610 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: of kind of speed feeling. But then I feel safer 611 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: with you know, potholes and manhole covers, you know, because 612 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: I have wider tires. So I think what you're looking 613 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: for is it's what's your purpose, Like what's your goal? 614 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: You know, do you want to compete in a triathlon? 615 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: Do you want to do a century? Just commute to work? 616 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a bike for everything. And then when 617 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: you look across the brand, just know what kind of 618 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: price point you want, and you know it's there's a 619 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: there's a right bike for you and to not be 620 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: intimidated by it. But the you know, the barrier to 621 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: entry is quite high, but it's worth it because once 622 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: you have it, it's a great investment and it lasts 623 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: for a really long time. Is we go back to 624 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: taking care of. 625 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: It, Yeah, for sure. And I love the idea that 626 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: you articulated. Which is so important is that know what 627 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: you want to do with your bike, right, Like, there 628 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: are so many different things and places that you can 629 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: go on two wheels, whether it is just staying on 630 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: the road or going on gravel, or maybe you want 631 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: to go mountain biking. So knowing exactly what your purpose is, 632 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: even like a commuting bike, it might be a pick 633 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: that you're also going to be riding road with that's 634 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: a very different bike than what you might choose if 635 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: you want to be like getting a lot of fitness 636 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: and going out on long road rides and stuff like that. 637 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: So all these super important questions to ask yourself, and 638 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: don't be afraid, I would say to like go into 639 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: your local bike shop and articulate all of these to 640 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: them because this is what the people that work there. 641 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: They hear these things all the time, and they're going 642 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: to have the intel and then know how to help 643 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: you choose the right bike that's going to be right 644 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: for you. 645 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 646 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean I think as far as like for women too, 647 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: sometimes it's intimidating to walk into a shop, which you know, 648 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a bunch of dudes working at and you 649 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: know you're asking about wearing underwear with your shorts or 650 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: not right, And the same thing goes to when you're 651 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: finding a bike, like don't be afraid just to say 652 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: what you want. And then also that's where the bike fit. 653 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Make sure you're buying the right bike that's the right 654 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: size for you, and not because there's a flash sale 655 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: you got to buy this bike that make you too 656 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: big or too small for you. So making sure it 657 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: serves your purpose, and kind of going back to what 658 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: you want out of the bike, and then knowing you 659 00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: can always get to know. 660 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: Something else I'd love to touch on with you is 661 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: talking about nutrition on the bike. It's an interesting subject, 662 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: right because whereas with running they say that you don't 663 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: really need to really think about fluids. If you're running 664 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: for under i'd say like forty five or sixty minutes 665 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: on the bike, that changes like real fast. So talk 666 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: to me about, you know, some of the things that 667 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: you've learned about fueling on the bike, and maybe some 668 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: of the advice that you'd offer to the hurdlers. 669 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: Yep, so I'm sorry, apparently I'm on a mantra phase today, 670 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: but something I say when I'm on my bike is 671 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: eat and drink early and often, and or you can 672 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: that works for you, eat and drink early and often, 673 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: or sip sip, nibble nibble, which I just have a 674 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: rule for myself, Like I have a lot of apparently 675 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: mantras and rules, but you know, every time I get 676 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: on my bike, I have a purpose, you know, whether 677 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: it's learning how to ride in a straight line, cornery better, 678 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, having therapy, you know, Like I always have 679 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: a purpose, kind of like you do in yoga, which 680 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: is super weird because I don't do yoga at all. 681 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: So when it comes to nutrition, I have a rule 682 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: that's one bottle an hour and then eat and drink 683 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: early and often. And once you push past that hour barrier, 684 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't fueled appropriately, you're really going to start 685 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: paying the price. So, depending on your body size and 686 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: your intensity level, eating and drinking early and often is 687 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: always good. I personally usually have a goal about two 688 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: d and fifty calories an hour, so I can put that 689 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: in my bottle. In the form of electrolyte, I use goog. 690 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's lots of options out there on the market, 691 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: and you can also eat a snack, bar, a gel 692 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: depending on your intensity. 693 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: But I used to when I first. 694 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: Started, like hav an alarm on my little bite computer 695 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: to like remind me to drink because like, you know, 696 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you start and everyone feels like world champion, right and 697 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: you start, you're at the race, you write your friends, 698 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: you forget, you're like I guess talking or going hard. 699 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: And then like later you get two hours in, you're 700 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: you're dehydrated, and you're you burn through some most of 701 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: your GLC engine stores. So it's it's about just keeping 702 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: that consistent blood sugar and however you do that, whether 703 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: it's in your bottle and a snack or or whatever. 704 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: So funny, right, because everyone has like a feeling strategy 705 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: that works for them. I feel like on the bike, 706 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: I get thirsty like pretty quickly, and they always say, like, 707 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: when you're thirsty, that's like a big sign obviously that 708 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 2: you need to take in liquids. But for me, I'm 709 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: totally with you on the co signing like early often 710 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of like taking a bike ride 711 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: to somewhere where it's like there's a strategic treat insight. 712 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: So if you like give me a donut, twenty five 713 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: miles in. I'm like, yes, actually, I would love to 714 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: do that. 715 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: I am totally a treat based athlete of destination right ba. 716 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm gonna maybe I'm gonna have to 717 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: change my Instagram bio treat based athlete. 718 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like donut, oysters, san fere like a beer 719 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: or you know. Oh, I live in Sonoma County. I 720 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: mean there's really cool places to go ride my bike. 721 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 2: I mean amazing. Yeah, I'm like, find me a donut. 722 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: You're like, I'll take a half dozen oysters and maybe 723 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: like a glass of wine and then we'll wait like 724 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: thirty minutes and we'll get back. 725 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: On the bike. 726 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done that. 727 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: I support it. 728 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a big fan of the mid ride 729 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: beer as well, which I'm carbs, Carbs. I'm not advocating 730 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 2: for drinking and cycling. I'm just saying, like a halfler 731 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: full beer isn't going to you'll be okay, I promise you. 732 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 3: I promise you do not take this as medical advice. 733 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: Let me make sure that. Yeah. But okay, So we 734 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: talked about nutrition fuel early. If you'll often find the 735 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: stuff that works for you in my bottles, I usually 736 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 2: keep one bottle of just water and the other bottle. 737 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of Element they are a sponsor 738 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: of the show. But I love a salty sip. 739 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: It's like exactly what I want when I'm out there 740 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: and it's hot and I'm dripping and all the things. 741 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 3: Do you have any go to? What fuel do you use? 742 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: I am sponsored by Doo Energy Labs, so I use 743 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: their electrolyte and gels, and then I raise some really 744 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: long events. 745 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 4: Gravel racer now, so my events can be you know, 746 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: ten twelve hours. So I start like I do when the. 747 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: Intensity is high, I go for the you know gels, 748 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: the you know, choose, you know, think about all that, 749 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: like kind of straight cards, straight sugar. 750 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: And then as the race leaves, you know. 751 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: And goes into the four, six, seven, eight hours, I 752 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: start getting hungry. So I make snacks or I do 753 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: have pizza in my feed zones or sandwiches. I make 754 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: this little sandwich called it a little stinky. Yeah, it's 755 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: a Hawaiian sweet roll, some butter, some cheese, salamie and 756 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: a pickle. Love that and it's like it's savory. I'm 757 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: a savory person. So after my I call it like 758 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: race cut. You know you've had all the sweets and 759 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: you just start wanting. So you said you'll have the 760 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: salty stiff like one hundred percent agree, And I start 761 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: craving a little more complex food. Also, your intensity after 762 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: that duration isn't full like we call it full gas 763 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: like it's not. 764 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 4: You know, you're you're starting to kind of find your groove. 765 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: You probably by yourself. You start getting kind of hungry. 766 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,959 Speaker 4: So I think a little more protein helps me on that. Yeah. 767 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 4: And then the other key though to that too is 768 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 4: like I use a camelback Chase beest for when I'm 769 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 4: not on the road, when I'm on off. 770 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: Road, which is a hydration pack like when you're scared 771 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: and it's technical if you're off road or you know 772 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: you're going to have a rock. So like I just 773 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: have a little straw and that helps me do the 774 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: zipsip nibble nibble thing. 775 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 3: The sip sip nibble nibble, the sip sip nibble nibble patent. 776 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: That Yeah, Nutrition gear, finding the right bike fit. Safety. 777 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: We touched on that buzzword before, so let's give that 778 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: a little bit more love at the moment. 779 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: Uh, certainly, I. 780 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 2: Would say at all times, but especially for new riders 781 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: as you start to get your footing and get more 782 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: comfortable on your bike, it's a really great tip to 783 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: get out there with a friend or a companion that 784 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 2: you could share the ride with. 785 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: Not only because if you happen to get a flat tire. 786 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 2: Or something, that there's someone to share in that experience 787 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: with you and hopefully help you get back on your feet, 788 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: but also because you want to make sure that if 789 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: something were to happen, like a crash, that you have 790 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: backup in someone to give you a hand. And plus, 791 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: like not to downplay the importance of like having some 792 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: one to be with in case you get a little 793 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: bit lost. 794 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, training partners are key, you know, we're talking the 795 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: CM Solar Power treat base and also social based in 796 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: the sport. You know, somebody to get you out the 797 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: door is nice too. It's eight thirty ety to lead 798 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: by thirty, but you're like on Instagram. Training partners help 799 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: with that safety once again too. We'll talk always where 800 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: your helmet. My helmet has an Angie sensor in there 801 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: that if I do ash and you know that impact 802 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: and then go to an emergency contact, which is my 803 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: partner and my phone, which is super cool for the 804 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: safety and then also sometimes like it's it's just really 805 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: nice to be with people, but also if you get 806 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: lost or if something happens. And I have hitchhiked only 807 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: a couple of times because usually I don't train alone 808 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: that often. 809 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: I like to have people around. 810 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that your helmet has that technology, and 811 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: it a lot of other like popular either wearables like 812 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: Garmin or I know like by computers will also have 813 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 2: features that you can set up where if you were 814 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: to experience to crash, than someone like your emergency contact 815 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: will also get a notification. So super super important to 816 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: do this kind of recon before you get out there, 817 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 2: just so that you can put yourself in the best 818 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: possible position. Not that we want anything to happen to you, 819 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: but should something happen to you, that you will be 820 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 2: in contact asap with the people that know that something's up. 821 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: Something else that I think is important for us to 822 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: touch on as well. Building up your stamina. Right like, 823 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: as you're a new writer, I can feel really intimidating. 824 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: You see people maybe on your strawva or whatever you're 825 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: looking at, that are doing these fifty one hundred mile 826 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: bike rides. 827 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: And you're like, I'm never going to be able to 828 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 3: do anything like that. 829 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 2: Again, we said earlier in this episode, like, don't judge 830 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: your beginnings too harshly. What would you say to this 831 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: athlete as they're starting out on getting more comfortable in 832 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: the bike and slowly building up that mileage. 833 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: I think it's what we also touched in on the 834 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: beginning was finding your why, and I think that's really 835 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: important because when you had your goal and it's your 836 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: goal and not somebody else's goal, then you're going to 837 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: be more inspired to chase and pursue that goal. 838 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 4: And so it's it's. 839 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: About taking the steps forward, progress, taking care of yourself 840 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: and building that stamina. And it doesn't happen overnight. But 841 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: if the goal kind of makes you clutch your teeth 842 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: and there's a determination and like make your heart flutter, 843 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: it's probably the right goal. But it's about giving yourself 844 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: that grace as you as you pursue that, and it 845 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: takes time, and you know, coaches can really help or 846 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: Google is a great guide too. I mean, you know, 847 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: if you don't want to you spot a bike, and 848 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: if you don't want to buy a coach too. 849 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: I get it, but I need to. 850 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: Like for me, it was about finding my why, and 851 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: sometimes that wasn't what society told me it should be. 852 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: Like if you're all your friends are doing a triathlon 853 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: and you don't want to, then you know, pick something else. 854 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 4: It makes you excited, and. 855 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: Then you know having that plan and knowing that I'm 856 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: I'm a biokeevist by trade, and the best thing about 857 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: endurance sports is that direct relationship to a lot of 858 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: times the time you put in and your performance. So 859 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: as you keep just a little bit of time increasingly, 860 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: your stamina is going to keep increasing. Of course there's 861 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: a overtraining dipping over the edge, but you know what 862 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like think a nice steady increase where you 863 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: know anything is possible, and just giving yourself that time 864 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 1: and that. 865 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: Plan definitely, and something else has totch on you mentioned before, 866 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: like with what you were wearing and wearing a proper 867 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: cycling jersey instead of just wearing a sports bra. I 868 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: be mindful that you're going to be out there for 869 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: a while, likely regardless of what level yet you're at. 870 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: So sunscreen is. 871 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: Super super important, especially if you do want to try 872 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: and I stress the word try to avoid that ever 873 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: lovely cycling shorts convenient tamline. 874 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: Well, I do the fade so when I do train alone, like, 875 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: I roll up my shorts a little bit, roll them down, 876 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: so the fade. But I love sunscreen. I put it 877 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: on like face, obviously my whole body. And luckily, if 878 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: you get nice cycling kit, it has usually upf fifty. 879 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's. 880 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 4: Trying to protect you. So they do a good job 881 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 4: with that. 882 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: But the tan lines, the sock ones are the worst 883 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: because I do like those mid calf and then you 884 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: know you're going to a wedding and you frigin have 885 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: like you know. 886 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the short sleeve fad, the sock faith, it's everywhere, 887 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: it's everywhere. Okay, before I let you go, anything else 888 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 2: that we haven't touched on just yet that you think 889 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: is important for us to bestow on relatively new cyclists. 890 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we've covered so much. You 891 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: make everything so approachable and that's what we all love 892 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: about you. And taking something the sounds complex, but just 893 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: to remember, you know, we've been riding bikes since we 894 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: were kids, and it's it's enjoyable and it should be fun. 895 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: And like I said, if you're riding bikes, you're doing 896 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: it right. And it could be an e bike, it 897 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: can be a hybrid, mountain bike, gravel road, you know, 898 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: whatever your goal is for that, and it can be intimidating, 899 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: but you know, like we could just jump in and 900 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 1: do these things, and I fine, it's just like riding 901 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: a bicycle and then not being afraid to ask questions, 902 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, and get the internet is great, your local 903 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: bike shop. Emily's always obviously like an expert in the 904 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: field here of making things approachable. So I think that's 905 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: about what you find that exploration and expression through two 906 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: wheels is such a powerful experience. 907 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: Oh, you're so good to me. 908 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 2: I think what you just said there about not being 909 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 2: able to ask questions, it's kind of my mantra and 910 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: what I've really adopted as I've carried on in this 911 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: podcast journey. It's I remember before I started podcasting that 912 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 2: I would listen to this one show in particular where 913 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 2: the host asked a lot of the questions that I had, 914 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 2: and I think so often we get like a little nervous, 915 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: so afraid, right, Like we're a little nervous to admit 916 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 2: that we have this question that we think that we're 917 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: supposed to have the answer to. So when it comes 918 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: to like my approach with interviewing guests, sometimes I feel 919 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 2: like I have to go back to basics so that 920 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: I can get the answers that I would have wanted myself. 921 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,959 Speaker 2: And the same goes of course, as we're talking about 922 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: here with cycling addressing. You know, don't be afraid to 923 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 2: ask for help, helper, go to the bike shop, befriend them, 924 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: be cool with them. Like I used to have a 925 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 2: guy uptown Rob that like I felt like whenever I 926 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 2: was coming through, he like knew that I was coming 927 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: through with some sort of perhaps super novice, but great 928 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: question that I needed answering. So reaching out to people 929 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: like your version of Rob at your bike shop obviously 930 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: dming someone like Allison, I'm sure she'd be happy to 931 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 2: help you with your questions. But finding community in that 932 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: you don't have to have all the answers right away, 933 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 2: that's really important, right, like you're not supposed to you're 934 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 2: not going to. And again on that note of not 935 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: judging your beginnings too harshly, like don't judge yourself for 936 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: not knowing all the answers. 937 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 4: No, you never. 938 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean look at life, like, we never know all 939 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: the answers, right, And I'm a professionalman doing this a 940 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: long time, and i still make mistakes, you know, so, 941 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: But I think though it's about yeah, not I think 942 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: sometimes in sport, and you know, it's about women. I 943 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: think supporting women too, I mean, and not putting what 944 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: we do on this pedestal that's unapproachable, like, yeah, we 945 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: can ride real fast, real hard, We're good at what 946 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: we do. But I mean, it's just riding bikes, man Like, 947 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: just like you could be a CEO of a company. 948 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: It's just running a company. It's you know, managing good people. 949 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: Like there's there's things around this, right. 950 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: Like come on, So the moral of the story is 951 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 2: talk to friends about riding your bike, have fun riding 952 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: your bike, and you can literally do whatever the hell 953 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 2: you put your mind to. 954 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: Any treats, Like that's the best part of riding bikes, 955 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: the treats and the snack stops, right, Like, here's why 956 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: we ride period. 957 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, al And this was so fun to 958 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: chat up with you, and we're definitely gonna have to 959 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: get a ride in the books. Our our mutual friend 960 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: Kelly and I were talking about a possible trip for 961 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: me out to California, maybe at the end of October, 962 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: so we'll look into that. We'll catch up. How do 963 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: the hurdlers follow along with you for more inspiration? How 964 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 2: do they keep up with you? Give me all the details? 965 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: Oh, perfect, Well, you can follow me on all things 966 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: the Internet's Instagram's great, it's a lot of cycling and 967 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't know bike adventures. My handle is at am 968 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: tetric am et ur ic k. And also just look 969 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: at the links in the bio because my COVID sourdough 970 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: Bread was making bandanas and selling them for scholarships for 971 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: female identifying athletes to race bikes here for Nika's Norcow 972 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: High School Cycling League. So we've done five scholarships already 973 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: and I only have a few bandanas left. One is 974 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: a total cowgirl, so you'll recognize that, and of internal summer, 975 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: and then we were talking about being treat based. The 976 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: other pattern is a Paisley pattern with everything why I 977 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: love riding bikes, which, by the way, Emily has a 978 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: donut on it, pizza, whiskey and lama and flowers because 979 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: this is like what I love about riding bikes is 980 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: all the things I get to see and enjoy it. 981 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 4: I love it. 982 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 3: I love it. 983 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so we'll definitely plug that in the show notes. 984 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: Definitely click on over there, get yourself a bandana, and 985 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,399 Speaker 2: do some good. I'm over at Kurdle Podcast and at 986 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 2: Emily a Body Another hurdle conquered. 987 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.