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Speaker 1: Happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to No Dounk Skier on the Athletic Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: A different crew here today. I'm tas Mellie with me

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Speaker 2: making the magic happen. It's Eshwa kid, what's up? Esh

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? You had different crew in the Classic

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Speaker 2: Factory because Skeets, Trey and j d are going to

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Speaker 2: California for our old friend Mattio's bachelor party. They're celebrating.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you listened way back when to

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Speaker 2: our show, esh when it was this sort of an

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Speaker 2: ongoing joke where Matt would say, yeah, I'm getting married soon,

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Speaker 2: when it was there's no reality to that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't happening, and he'd say it all the time,

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Speaker 2: and then finally, like a decade later, it's actually happening.

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Speaker 2: So very excited for him and Jill. Next month when

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Speaker 2: they get hitched, I guess we won't be doing shows then.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a while from now.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna get married on May fourth, I heard right,

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Speaker 3: So happy for me. I'm a Star Wars fan. They

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Speaker 3: have a great wedding. May the Force be with you.

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Speaker 2: Got any tips on that because I know you had

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Speaker 2: the Star Wars theme for your wedding.

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Speaker 3: I know they're not doing an actual Star Wars theme wedding,

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Speaker 3: but you know, if I had some suggestions, all right,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, bring out a lightsaber or two. I know

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Speaker 3: he won't, No, he won't Star Wars, but you know,

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Speaker 3: might as well do something.

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Speaker 4: Throw a little hand up for the Force or something

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's a good way that could

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Speaker 2: be done, sort of, you know, nondescript. You know, it

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Speaker 2: could just be for the hardcore Star Wars people if

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Speaker 2: you pull it up. Anyway, We've got lots to get

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Speaker 2: to today. A little later on we'll be talking about

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Speaker 2: it's the best version of this game that we're watching

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Speaker 2: right now, but all the negativity around it. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to the idea of getting rid of corner threes what

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Speaker 2: and we'll break down when Gig Jackson heard about his

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Speaker 2: head coach being fired, how it was all done, very

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Speaker 2: very funny. But first, let's get to last night's games,

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Speaker 2: because we got Lebron versus Curry, and we gotta talk

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Speaker 2: about it because at first, you know, getting back getting

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Speaker 2: down to the last few minutes, I thought maybe these

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Speaker 2: guys were just showing how old they are. We saw

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Speaker 2: Lebron give the ball away down low. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't a great situation with Dori and Phinney Smith. Then

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Speaker 2: Curry missed the shot and I thought, man, maybe these

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Speaker 2: guys are old and haha, ridiculousness. Curry hits a three,

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Speaker 2: Lebron hits a three. You got Kevin Harlan on the

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Speaker 2: call saying good, good, and Reggie Miriller are asking him,

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Speaker 2: are you tired of saying good?

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Speaker 1: And Kevin Harland said no because he just had to.

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Speaker 2: Because we're watching a thirty seven year old and a

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Speaker 2: forty year old give it back and forth to each other.

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Speaker 2: Warriors come out on top. Curry with thirty seven, Lebron

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Speaker 2: with thirty three. A ridiculously good night.

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Speaker 1: Esh.

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Speaker 2: What is your first takeaway? What do you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about in this game?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I think it was a great one.

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Speaker 3: It was a good one, so I'd be super excited

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Speaker 3: if it ends up being the first round matchup in

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Speaker 3: the West. You know, I'm a bit of a Curry fan.

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Speaker 3: I kind of wish they could avoid each other in

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Speaker 3: the first in the.

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Speaker 1: First round, but you want to see it in the

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Speaker 1: second round and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I understand I hear everybody's saying, like, you

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Speaker 3: could get steff On Lebrun at any time, let's have it.

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Speaker 4: But it was a great game.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Pazimski in the first half was he had twenty

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Speaker 3: two points in the first half, eight of eleven from three, No,

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Speaker 3: six of seven from three in the first half and

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Speaker 3: ended up with a career high eight threes and twenty

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Speaker 4: Right, So.

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Speaker 3: Just came out on fire, the Warriors did, and you

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Speaker 3: know that first quarter and on a on a bit

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Speaker 3: So you had you had Presik in the first half

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Speaker 3: quarter fighting against Lebron. They're going back and forth. Kurry

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Speaker 3: third quarter with sixteen points, and you're just like, this

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Speaker 3: is exactly what you want to see from the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's contributing everything that even though Jimmy Butler's not lighting

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Speaker 3: you see the Lakers side of things. Lebron's kind of

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Speaker 3: first he went down early in the game. I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, he's hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, his stomach.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was thought it was the growing again.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently just got the wind knocked out of

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Speaker 3: him a bit. Yeah, comes comes back, has a monster game.

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves has a monster game.

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Speaker 2: Luca though quiet, Luca, very quiet.

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Speaker 4: Luca didn't look like Luca Luka now struggling a little bit,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, O for from three, first time in two calendar

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Speaker 2: he's having a bad shooting night, he knocks one down.

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Speaker 2: So it was odd to see that. And as they

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Speaker 2: were trying to come down, come back, I should say,

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Speaker 2: against the Warriors, he got into the lane and was

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Speaker 2: stripped there by Draymond in the last couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Because Draymond was perfect.

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Speaker 2: He gets away with some physical stuff under the hoop.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes will tell you that. That being said, he

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Speaker 2: was fantastic. And as you go down the wars, as

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Speaker 2: you were just saying Draymond didn't have a fantastic offensive night,

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Speaker 2: you don't expect him to have that. Jimmy Butler didn't

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Speaker 2: have a fantastic offensive night. So then you kind of

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Speaker 2: Steph and if Draymond's not gonna do it, and Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Butler's gonna do it, and most Moodies in your starting lineup,

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Speaker 2: who's going to do well? Brandon Bajemski was incredible that

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Speaker 2: he just said, bang in that first shot of his

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Speaker 2: and he just felt that the rest of the night.

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Speaker 2: Eight three is coming off a game where he had

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Speaker 2: no threes against the Memphis Grizzlies. That being said that

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Speaker 2: game after bad game, just like Jimmy will have a

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Speaker 2: those two consecutive cuts to the bucket. You just can't

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Speaker 2: fall asleep against this team. If you're watching Steph somebody's

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Speaker 2: gonna hit you with a cut. And to see Pajemski

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Speaker 2: doing that himself. I mean, they just had too many guys.

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Speaker 1: Esh.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll get a little later to the whole

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Speaker 2: negativity around the NBA and how it's so fricking boring

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Speaker 2: it and there isn't any substance to it. But sometimes

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Speaker 2: you know, like the old head will say, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the first half doesn't really matter, it's just about the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Well, this guy, with this team and how

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Speaker 2: they got up double digits early, it truly does matter.

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Speaker 2: You can't get down to this team. That's the miraculous

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Speaker 2: part about this team. I didn't see coming when they

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Speaker 2: traded for Jimmy Butler. How he's got like Brandon Pajemski

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Speaker 2: literally was on the bench to start this season. For

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Speaker 2: a big chunk of this season, he wasn't himself right,

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Speaker 2: and in year number two and then somehow, I mean

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green was talking about him like, hey, I I

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Speaker 2: went through it too, from year one to year two.

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Speaker 2: And now you've got a guy Jimmy Butler who has

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Speaker 2: somehow like like that, like a snap of fingers turned

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Speaker 2: the best Brandon Pajemski version of himself into himself. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's into what we're seeing. I should say that is

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Speaker 2: that's as Moroc and Mo miraculous, Like all down the

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Speaker 2: fricking roster, how many guys are performing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're you're you're saying it really because

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Speaker 3: not only Pazemski, but you got Moses Moody too, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: Moses Moody benched a lot of the season, right Like.

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Speaker 3: But I heard a stat that they were I can't

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Speaker 3: even I can't even remember the stat, but they were

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Speaker 3: talking about how many games he had started and their

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Speaker 3: and one, twenty three and four something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because it's following the Jimmy numbers since he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, But it's just just the way

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Speaker 3: and if they can continuously do that, like they could

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Speaker 3: be somewhat of a threat. Like I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 3: they're going to go straight on and win the championship

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Speaker 3: possibility if they can. If you can get the Steph

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Speaker 3: playoff Jimmy and the way that Draymond is playing right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody's talking about, well.

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Speaker 3: Is he the defensive player of the of the year

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Speaker 3: since Winby's gone down and some of other people may

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Speaker 3: not be eligible, but he's bringing it on that.

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Speaker 4: Side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: I heard them talking about it on the daily this morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's just kind of talking about the team d defenses

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Speaker 3: anchoring those defenses and they look so much better together.

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Speaker 3: But Draymond Green kind of doing it a bit on

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Speaker 3: anchors that and what they look like with him on

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Speaker 3: that together, they have a pretty good recipe in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think if they can get this seating right, oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Do think it's a legitimate championship team. I wouldn't predict

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Speaker 2: them right here right now, but I mean I was

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Speaker 2: so wrong when they decided to move on from Andrew Wiggins,

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Speaker 2: just to change up what they had and Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 2: coming in and what he's done to this team offensively,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, defensively, how I mean they're undersized. Jimmy

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably the smallest team that he's

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Speaker 2: ever played on, and that makes sense with him at

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Speaker 2: the four where he's undersized. I thought sometimes they would

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Speaker 2: Kevin Looney at the five and make Draymond finish games

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Speaker 2: at the five, which they do occasionally. But when they

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Speaker 2: play way out on the perimeter. They push out and

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Speaker 2: do a great job of stopping the point of attack

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Speaker 2: Draymond's been incredible as the backline. He has been really

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was just fun entirely. It's

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Speaker 2: The only question I had was Lebron walking in the

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Speaker 1: I mean, she was screaming old man, like.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how people see overalls like. I've

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Speaker 4: I don't know overalls are having a renaissance.

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Speaker 3: I think my wife said to me the other day,

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Speaker 4: I guess. I don't think I everwhere, but they seem

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Speaker 2: he's asking to be starting on this role. And you

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Speaker 2: They got the depth, and so that's the difference to me.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I think they're ready.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a fun playoffs, I guess super fun.

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Speaker 4: If we get them in their first round, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. It could be, all right.

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Speaker 2: Moving on to something we saw from Yanistat of Kobo

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Speaker 1: Yanisay Is the.

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Speaker 2: First player in NBA history to record this. That line

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Speaker 2: Twenty assists was the miraculous thing. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: New nickname for him.

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Speaker 4: The giving Greek.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the giving Greek.

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Speaker 2: You're just passing it over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: I love literation, and so you know, for for this

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Speaker 4: Assess I hear you guys talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta stop talking about you guys.

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Speaker 1: But these the Bucks were just ready.

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Speaker 2: And Jannis said, you know after the game, and you

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Speaker 4: Everybody in the NBA wants to win. So, uh, you.

434
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Speaker 3: Know, I guess it remains to be seen. I just

435
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: don't know what all the front office can do, uh

436
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: to get him some help, Like who's going to be available?

437
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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's a part

438
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: of it, but it stuff.

439
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't want to be like Dame Lillard,

440
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 3: who stayed probably too long, uh in Portland, probably could

441
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 3: have left a long time ago if nobody was going

442
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 3: to help him out. Uh you know, I mean Dames

443
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: is a little bit older. He finally gets to the bucks,

444
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: but you don't you don't want to see that. Jona

445
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 3: Jonas already has the ring, he's got some MVPs, but

446
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: he wants to keep winning. And I think a lot

447
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: of us would like to see him continue to win

448
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 3: and not just fizzle out and be like, you know,

449
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 3: a guy that we take for granted.

450
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Speaker 4: You see this stat line and yeah, you.

451
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Speaker 2: Know I'm looking at this that line here. If you're

452
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Speaker 2: watching on YouTube as you you did a great job

453
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Speaker 2: on it. You corrected it because I think to start

454
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Speaker 2: it was a little we had some technical issues where

455
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Speaker 2: it was a little a little blacked out a little bit.

456
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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. It's still yeah, it

457
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 4: happens there, it is, there was going on.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah it happens to us.

459
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Speaker 2: But anyways, you persevered, and that is a good segue

460
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Speaker 2: for our next topic because you want to see this

461
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: and if you haven't seen it. We talked about it

462
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: yesterday and we wondered, what's going to happen to John

463
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: Morant after pulling out the you know, the.

464
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Speaker 1: The finger guns.

465
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Speaker 2: Basically, while John Moran Buddyheld received warnings but no penalties

466
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Speaker 2: from the NBA after inappropriate gestures as they were calling them,

467
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: Buddy heel pulled out first. John Morant responded, question was

468
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: really it was about John Morant, who has pulled out

469
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: a an actual gone twice on Instagram Live, whether or

470
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 2: not Adam Silver would do something specifically about that. The

471
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: next night, after receiving that warning, Job pulled it out again.

472
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: His first basket a three point shot, he pulled it out,

473
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: and then in the third quarter again he pulled it out.

474
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Speaker 2: Now it's something we see a lot in NBA games.

475
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: It's just questioned because of Ja Morant. But what do

476
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 2: you think about this? As we sort of we're gonna

477
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: skim over the fact that John Morant had a game

478
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,959
Speaker 2: winner in the same game against the Miami Heat, A

479
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: beautiful bounce on that shot. But what's your take here?

480
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, the shot was beautiful. I was

481
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: watching with my buddy, big Heat fan, he's in the

482
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: liv room. I saw as soon as Cloe Ware switched

483
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: on to him, I was like, Oh, that's game.

484
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: He's like, no, it's not. It was game called him

485
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: a pigeon. You see that? Who what he did?

486
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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, as soon as I looked up, I

487
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: saw I had a pigeon on me, so I knew

488
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: I had the game.

489
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Speaker 4: Like, I never heard that before.

490
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't know what that means.

491
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: I've never heard that before. But he called him a pigeon. Anyways,

492
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: you're not good, You're like, I literally have no idea.

493
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, because our pigeons are if you go

494
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: to a city and you see pigeon in the street,

495
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: they're not moving.

496
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Speaker 4: So is that what he means? Like he's like, oh,

497
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Speaker 4: I know he's not gonna I'm getting by him, right, or.

498
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Speaker 1: That's so good?

499
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Speaker 2: I think you're right. What else would it be? Yeah,

500
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Speaker 2: I'd never thought of it like that quite. Yeah, in

501
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: city's pigeons are just like there's statues in a way.

502
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 4: Got to incorporate that pick up, I think.

503
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: But anyways, yeah, that's anyway.

504
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the the thing that's making the headlines

505
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: way more so than an actual game winner.

506
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: Of course, uh jaw. I don't understand. I really don't

507
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 3: get it.

508
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: Now.

509
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: The whole celebration, I think is is a not a

510
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: big deal. It's really not a big deal as far

511
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: as everybody's doing it all the time. Like Michel Bridges

512
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 3: does the thing like what is this supposed to be?

513
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: You know, like when he hits the three, he does

514
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: this all the time. Is that not a gun? Nobody

515
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: ever says anything to him. Everybody in the NBA does

516
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: some variation of that. They're literally shooters, right, Like, I

517
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: don't know. But when it comes to John Morant, as

518
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 3: soon as somebody brings attention to it, maybe don't do

519
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: it right. That's the other side of this. He's had

520
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: all of his issues before with the guns and all

521
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: of his other issues with the kid, like just stay

522
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Speaker 3: out of trouble.

523
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Speaker 4: Man, like you are a superstar in this league.

524
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: I understand. Maybe sometimes people don't want to be role models.

525
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: We heard Charles Barkley say that a lot in the nineties.

526
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm nobody's role model. Maybe John doesn't want

527
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: to be a role model. That's fine.

528
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: But similar to what Anthony Edwards kind of said, like

529
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Speaker 2: I don't want that yeah, yeah, you know, like very

530
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: different you have.

531
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Speaker 4: You have eyes on you.

532
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Speaker 3: We know that we have gun issues in this country.

533
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Speaker 3: If the eyeballs are on you all the time, maybe

534
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 3: don't if you're in trouble for for that right, if

535
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: you're good with Arena's two point zero in people's eyes,

536
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: don't go around like pretending to shoot guns at people.

537
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: Like like I said, in a vacuum, it's fun. It's

538
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: not a big deal. I don't think that's a problem.

539
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: I have no issue with that at all as a

540
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: dad myself. Like if my kids see that, I don't

541
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 3: think they're going to think, oh yeah, I gotta go.

542
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 4: Let me go get a gun and do things.

543
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: But if you're John Morant, and especially just not even

544
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: twenty four hours, you've just been warned from the league, hey, maybe.

545
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: Don't do that.

546
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: And then that's the first thing you do is you

547
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Speaker 3: come out you got a bigger gun now like before,

548
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: I feel like it was two little shooters and now

549
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: he's got the cannon, you know, Like I just don't

550
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: understand what.

551
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: The point of doing that is, honestly, right.

552
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it on Thursday Show. If you

553
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: want more on it, I can't talk much more about

554
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: it now. I just don't got it in me. Yeah,

555
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: it's one of those things that it's tied to his

556
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: off court and the situations there. As I said, a

557
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: couple guns have popped up on his Instagram lives twice,

558
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: or I guess it could have been his friend's Instagram live.

559
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: Either way, it was on Instagram Live. So that is

560
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: the situation. I'd rather talk about some of the topics

561
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: influenced by Reddit, and we have a few of them

562
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: here that we can get to now. The first one

563
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: I've talked about it or I've hinted at it that

564
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: the NBA is as talented and skilled as it's ever been,

565
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: So why all the negativity?

566
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Speaker 1: Now?

567
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: That was thrown up on Reddit by Goose Dookie, but

568
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: inspired by our David Aldridge at The Athletic and his

569
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: write up on essentially that esh that this is the

570
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: best version of the game, the most skilled players we've

571
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: seen in the NBA.

572
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: Put there is negativity, right?

573
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Speaker 2: Is there something you point to right off the bat

574
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Speaker 2: as to your reason why that's happening or or your

575
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: feelings about why and how there is so much negativity

576
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: surrounding this incredible sport.

577
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the greatest sport we have on

578
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: the planet. I don't care get out of here. Soccer, football,

579
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: basketball is the greatest thing that we have. And you're right, like,

580
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: from top to bottom, everybody is so much better. But

581
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: people hate and I think honestly, it's just because of

582
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: the culture that we live in here that's fair. In America,

583
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: we hate everything. Like, let's be honest, if you hop

584
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: on social media, if a new movie trailer drops, they're

585
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: hating on it. If it's a legacy movie or a

586
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: new movie, if it's a TV show, if it's a

587
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: video game, everybody.

588
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: Is going to find a way to hate on it

589
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 4: no matter what.

590
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: We have the greatest athletes on the planet playing this sport,

591
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: and like, you know, how many top seventy five players

592
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: are currently in the league, how many are going to

593
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: be in the top one hundred, how many are they're

594
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: going to be bumping other guys out? This is the

595
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: best time to be a basketball fan. But instead we're

596
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: nitpicking everything, Like we're going to get to threes in

597
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: a minute, but people are like, oh, now we're shooting

598
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: too many threes. Oh, there's no variation in the game.

599
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: Everybody plays the same way. This is how I know

600
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: that you're not watching the game, because nobody is playing

601
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: exactly the same and there's so much nuance to our game.

602
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: So I just think, you know, like Marvel just announced

603
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: the cast for Avengers Doomsday last week, wouldn't you guess

604
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: there's a billion people hating on it because they're just like, oh.

605
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: Why are we doing it like this? There's always a criticism.

606
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 3: And I just think back in the day, early twenty

607
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: and nineties, eighties, whatever, obviously there's no Internet, so even

608
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: if somebody says something, it's it's just one person opinion. Nowadays,

609
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: if I say an opinion and I'm popular enough or

610
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: however whoever says it, there's gonna be so many people

611
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: that follow me in that opinion without ever forming their own.

612
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: So if I say I hate the game, everybody's gonna

613
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: say they hate the game. Not to mention, we still

614
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: have media members kind of talking about how today's game

615
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: is not as good as before. So it starts there

616
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: and then it just trickles down. Now everybody hates it.

617
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: I don't get I don't know why we're doing this.

618
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: Well, it definitely starts with the current version of the Internet.

619
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: Because even when you're talking about the old version of

620
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: the internet back in the day, whether it's like twenty

621
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: years ago, fifteen years ago, the online comment that gained

622
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: the most traction then was just a sort of a

623
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: positive comment. I mean, it was just about the comment.

624
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: It was just about enjoying the game you're watching. But

625
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: the online comment that's going to get the traction now

626
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: is negative, unfortunately, and so the things that get amplified

627
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: are all sort of negative, and it becomes sort of

628
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: interwoven with the media personalities. And that's the scary part,

629
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: not the scary part, but the part that even like

630
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Lebron has been talking about where he just wants to

631
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: comment on to hear about the beautiful game really, and

632
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: so those kind of things are interwoven. Really, you hear

633
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: a lot of them media personalities that don't talk about

634
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: off ball cuts that we're seeing with the Golden State

635
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Warriors now it's freaking impossible to guard. I mean, that's

636
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: that's what makes me think of soccer, like Jimmy Butler

637
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: loves soccer, loves Naymar. You watch the Warriors, man, they

638
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: just keep moving and there's not a lot of talk

639
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: about that. There's just hey, I hate this thing, like

640
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: you're talking about a movie trailer. It's just hate. I

641
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: hate this thing. I hate this thing. Those things are

642
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: the things that get the likes and the reacxes or

643
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: the retweets or whatever the heck you call it. And

644
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: those are the people that pop up in your in

645
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: your feet. Although you know, a blue Sky is sort

646
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: of is kind of like a ten to fifteen year version,

647
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen year ago version of Twitter. It's more

648
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: just about the people you like, and the algorithm is

649
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: just it's just about enjoying what you're watching. So that

650
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: is totally true. And I know David Aldrich in the

651
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: article goes into that this game is just more skilled now.

652
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: I mean there's five guys that can handle, five guys

653
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: that can shoot, five guys that can pass. That didn't

654
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: happen before. It hasn't happened before. They're just better at

655
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: it now.

656
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: Everybody is better.

657
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: I was a proponent, like for women's basketball, for example,

658
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: I would say I think they were more skilled than

659
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: the men because since they can't dunk or they're not

660
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: dunking as much, they're not running as fast like.

661
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: Everybody had to be able to do all the skills.

662
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: I think the NBA's finally catching up to that because

663
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: years ago we had guys that literally could just run

664
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: and jump. You throw it up to the rim, he's

665
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: gonna go catch it. You got a job in the NBA.

666
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: Right.

667
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: That's not flying for other sports. Even it's not flying

668
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: for other versions of basketball. But now we got guys

669
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: like all the sinners can dribble and shoot everybody, point

670
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: guards can do whatever they want.

671
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: This is the best version, right.

672
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: But my thing is everybody's complaining about it. But go

673
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: to the gym and this is gonna be true for

674
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: the three point conversation too.

675
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: Go play pick up. What are they doing? They're playing

676
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: the exact same way that they all plaining about. I

677
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: hate watching the NBA.

678
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 3: Because they do this all. Right, Then, why are you

679
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: out here shooting from half court? And why are you

680
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: out here and not posting that? Why are we Why

681
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: are you six' ten with a five eletman guy on

682
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: you and you're shooting from half?

683
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: Court that's not.

684
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Smart. Best some old heads though that used to.

685
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: Play they used to play college or, whatever or. Professionals

686
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: i'm just saying college BECAUSE i know somebody who specifically

687
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: played college and will say there's too many threes, now

688
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: and so he doesn't he doesn't play pick up like,

689
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: that but he he kind of has, TO i guess

690
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: because of depending if he's playing with older guys or younger.

691
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: Guys but younger. Guys you're totally.

692
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: Right you see step, backs, Uh and that's what they're

693
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: sort of. Learning and that's kind of WHAT i wanted

694
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: to ask. About so you got kids in, ball they

695
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: are generally practicing more skill, sets like more like individual step,

696
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: backs AS i, said three point, shots and it's it's

697
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: less about the whole. Team that part of it is

698
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: is just kind of you, know a backseat to getting

699
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: better at individual.

700
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Skills is that a? Problem do you? Think?

701
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: YEAH i think you see, it especially.

702
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Like specifically About.

703
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: America, yes, yeah there it, is because you, know you

704
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: hear people talk about this all the.

705
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: Time but THE aau.

706
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: Circuits right like before when all of us were growing,

707
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: up all of us older than the generation right, now

708
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: like even if you're PLAYING, aau you're on a good,

709
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: team you're trying to get on a good team whatever

710
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: it like, nowadays you can you just start a team

711
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: Right LIKE i, Say, HEY i want my kid to

712
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: play because he might not be good, enough OR i

713
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: want to take these other.

714
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: Kids i'm just throwing them out.

715
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: There somebody's video and they're cutting highlight films and they're, like,

716
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: hey this is. It this guy is so good because

717
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: he can do all these. Things it's not helping grow

718
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: any BASKETBALL. Q you're not being a better. Teammate and

719
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: all these things are very important to being a great basketball.

720
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: Player so, like you, know, YEAH i coached my ten

721
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: year old and PLAYING tenu. Basketball here's a team we played.

722
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: Against there's this. Kid he's out there and he can

723
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: do it all a handle like a grown. Man he's

724
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: ten years. Old he's coming down the, lane he's eurostep.

725
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: In he dropped thirty five on. Us, uh you, know

726
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: and he's shooting threes and like from.

727
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: Deep you. Know i'm just, like what we COULDN'T i

728
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 4: couldn't do that WHEN i was. Ten none of us do.

729
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: That so the, games that's a good. Thing it is

730
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: a good. Thing i'm not complaining about. That but the problem,

731
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: is right, LIKE i think you AND i agree that

732
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: that is a good. THING i think that it is

733
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: fine because somebody's gonna come in and, say, well ten

734
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: year old shouldn't be doing that, anyway even if he

735
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: has the ability, to he should be going to the.

736
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: Rim you should be, no if you have the, skills do.

737
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: It that's kind of the. Point and then we should

738
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: appreciate that from a ten year old and also a

739
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: thirty seven year old and also a twenty five year,

740
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: old like if you were able to do all these

741
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: things on the basketball, floor appreciate that because it's beautiful.

742
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: Game in twenty, fourteen all of us were, saying all

743
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: The spurs play such a beautiful. Game look at the ball,

744
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: movement look at how they're doing. It nobody to say

745
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: anything about. Them of, course they still had tim to

746
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: dump it, in but they're still playing away like whatever

747
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: the best shot, is whether that is the three or.

748
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: Whatever now they've just taken. It they've expanded upon. That

749
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: now everybody's doing. That there's the clip going around on

750
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 3: the internet Of, kobe AND i think people are taking

751
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: out of, context but he was talking about playing accidental,

752
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: basketball and he's, like you, know we had to try and,

753
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: google and you, KNOW i knew IF i didn't have

754
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: this here at, one and i'd have this here at,

755
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: TWO i could go to the corner over here at

756
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: three and he's always gonna be.

757
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 4: There GREAT.

758
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: Nba they still have these sets and they still have

759
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: all these. Things it's not, accidental you, Know LIKE i,

760
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: know IF i get this mismatch, HERE i can bully

761
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: my way in and if the friender here, comes guess.

762
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: What now somebody is in the corner AND i can

763
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: shoot the, three which is more than, two and it's.

764
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: Fun the math is. Good i'm not Saying i'm a

765
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: big fan of all, analytics but, hey when you get

766
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 3: the mix, right which a lot of teams, have it's still.

767
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 4: Fun it's not. Boring people like it's, boy it's not.

768
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: Boring it's still good.

769
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: Basketball, yeah it was pretty boring back in the day

770
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: when it was just a dump into the of the

771
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: box and yeah that.

772
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: That guy would show a nice. Move but now you've

773
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: got five guys that. Can.

774
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally when we're talking about kids who do, it

775
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: it's so hard to guard these these guys with step.

776
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: Bactories it's. Impossible, men, women, boys. Girls it happens out there.

777
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: Now it's freaking crazy watching a pickup game of, anybody

778
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: because it's freaking. Hard i'm tired of thinking about it

779
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was playing AND i, literally you, KNOW. I

780
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: i generally play a little bit more old, school more

781
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: pick sets.

782
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: And and getting into the.

783
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Middle but whoever can take somebody off the dribbles can

784
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: take them off the, triple that's for. Sure and that's

785
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: why it's fun to watch somebody with a with a

786
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: mean step, back but it's freaking hard to stick.

787
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: With.

788
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: Okay so that's a good segue into our next reddit

789
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 2: thread that we picked up because it's about specific about

790
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: three point, shots which is a big complaint for a

791
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: lot of, people old, heads new, heads not having fun.

792
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: Watching so the thread was for the first time IN nba,

793
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: history miss threes are more common than missed. Twos now

794
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: for some, reason this reddit user pulled it, down SO

795
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: i don't have that red reddit user's, name but it

796
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: was directly From Kirk goldsbury on The ringer and him

797
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: giving these incredible stats and that incredible stat BECAUSE i

798
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: WAS i was surprised to see that mysteries are more

799
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: common than miss, twos because as we've seen it is

800
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: we're at a record level for. Threes and another crazy

801
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: fact here From, kirk more points are now scored from

802
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: the corners than the entire mid, range WHICH i mean

803
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: is is, ridiculous don't you, think, yesh when you start

804
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: thinking about the fact that.

805
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: That's where there's a lot of shots come.

806
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: From like you, said it's it's definitely the most efficient

807
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: shot in. Basketball so it Was kirk brought up eliminating quarter, threes.

808
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: But i'm not. Sure i'm not sure on.

809
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 2: THAT i think it's definitely something that should be experimented.

810
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: With it should start in THE G, league but just

811
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: to just to, experiment BECAUSE i do see the idea.

812
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: Experiment how what do you, mean, like are you are

813
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: you on board with eliminating the corner three like we

814
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: have we have.

815
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: This this picture.

816
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Here, yeah, yeah.

817
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah so if you're not watching on, YouTube it's sort

818
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: of like it's like a bucket. Hat if if you're

819
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: looking at the three point, line it still. Exists three

820
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: point line still, exists but there's a cutoff before the.

821
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: Corners you, know it's like it's above the break as

822
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: to the way they call it. Now it just sort of.

823
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: Stops so it's, like you, know, somebody somebody's got a

824
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: bucket hat, on and then you see the brim on

825
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: either side as it goes. Out so where would the

826
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: players go would they still be in the corners for

827
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: for a long two point shot just because you want

828
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: to spread out the defense as much as, Possible like

829
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: we're just talking about The Golden State. WARRIORS i, Mean

830
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: i'm thinking back to the to The calves and how

831
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: they would push up on the defensive end and they

832
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: would get everybody out there on top of the, bucket

833
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: had in this instance like way out there to stop

834
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: three point. Shots but they wouldn't have to go down

835
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: low as much as much as they did unless you're

836
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: still taking those long two point shots from the, corner

837
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: so you still got to be. Around but, yeah what's

838
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: what do you what's the?

839
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: THOUGHT i?

840
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: THINK i think if we did something like this like

841
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: this this this is terrible, looking by the.

842
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Way but you don't like the way it.

843
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 4: Looks this looks.

844
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: TERRIBLE i THINK i think there's an aesthetic to a basketball,

845
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: court and this right here just like it irks me

846
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: a little.

847
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: Bit but, okay but, yeah we're saying that more points

848
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: are now scored from the corners instead of the mid.

849
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: Range now we're just talking about like step backs and all.

850
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: That isn't that something you would rather?

851
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: See?

852
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: OKAY i think once, again if you're if we're going

853
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: to complain about the game and we're saying that we

854
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of, VARIETY i don't think this

855
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: is gonna really fix it. Either and it's because, spacing, Right,

856
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: like we spent so many years trying to figure out

857
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: spacing and, basketball AND i just mean like collectively as a. Sport,

858
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: right if you watch the games in the seventies and the,

859
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: sixties obviously there's no three point, lines so people are

860
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 3: just as close to the basket as, possible because that's

861
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 3: what makes the most. Sense when we get the three

862
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: point line in the, eighties obviously people weren't shooting. Them

863
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: it still was pretty, compact but you got to have

864
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: a guy that gets spread it a little bit onto

865
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: the nineties into twenty and twenty. Tens but like once

866
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: we've got this whole, spread, now obviously the analytics say

867
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 3: go for the corner shot because the corner is shorter, distance.

868
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: Right why get rid of?

869
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: THAT i think if you have this arc at the

870
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 3: break and then there's nothing, there then people are still

871
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: just gonna run and everybody's gonna be around there because

872
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: three is still more than two.

873
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: People people will still be up top up.

874
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: Top, yes they will still be around the, arc and

875
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: offenses would just kind of be about. THAT i, think you,

876
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: know we have we have four out one end. BEFORE

877
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: i think it would kind of even go back to.

878
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: That you're just gonna have a big at the free

879
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: throw line area that can facilitate and kind of dishback

880
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: out Every.

881
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: Everything is just gonna be cluttered at the top of the.

882
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: Key and so they would be cluttered above the three point.

883
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Line but so you're not you don't think that would

884
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: encourage more post shots or or forget about post, shots

885
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: just more mid range, shots just more ball, handling just

886
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: more guys with the ability to handle and go buy.

887
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: GUYS i, think you, know if you don't have, more

888
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: if you don't have as many people that can stop

889
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: you defensively or that can help out.

890
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: DEFENSIVELY i, SAID i GUESS i see where You're you

891
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: would think.

892
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: That it would push.

893
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: There BUT i just feel like if we got the

894
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: same stats right, now all the analytics that we have,

895
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: currently they're they're saying take the three or take a.

896
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 4: Layup they're trying not to have the.

897
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: Mitterring so they're, like, okay so if we get rid

898
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: of coroner, three keep the keep the. Arc you'll still

899
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: just you, know do the same. THING i, think in my,

900
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: opinion like because they're still going to be trying to

901
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: get to the. Rim AND i know what you're, Thinking, okay,

902
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 3: well if we have defenders at the top and you

903
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: have people at the, rim then they're going to be

904
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: forced to shoot. THOSE i think defensive will try to

905
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: make you shoot, those but still just think the.

906
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: Players are too. Good they will manipulate a way to get.

907
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: Those shots right at the top of the key at

908
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: the at the, arc DON'T i don't know if this

909
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: would force. It but, also LIKE i, said all the

910
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: all the offenses would be predicated still to get those

911
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: three points as much as.

912
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 4: Possible so they're all.

913
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: Going to be at the top setting, screens running things

914
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: or running basically starting action by the, rim breaking through

915
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: and then going toward that arc to get a shot

916
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: like little elevator plays like like kind of how The

917
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: warriors run that ye With Steph AND i think that'd

918
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: be like most people's. Offenses SO i don't know if

919
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: we're trying to get more variety in the game taking

920
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: away the corner, THREE i don't think it's going to

921
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: add variety that, much we might see a little more

922
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: dots pop up on a chart from the mid. Range

923
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: but to, ME i JUST i don't see how that makes,

924
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: sense AND i, GUESS i. Guess my last point is

925
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: that sometimes the GYM i play at we have too many,

926
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: people so instead of playing the full court long, ways

927
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: they have the short court, sideways and guys come in

928
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: and complain all the, time, WELL i don't want to do.

929
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: That there's no three point line's messing with me about my. Back,

930
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: well they, say, well there's just one like volleyball line

931
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: that if you shoot from, behind that will count that

932
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 3: as a two.

933
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: Or three, whatever depending on what you're. Playing this exact same.

934
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: HAPPENS i know players are smarter than the guys that

935
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: my local pick, up but everybody runs to this spot

936
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: and then who's down? There Right like IT'S i go

937
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: and post up down, there and Then i'm just, like,

938
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: WELL i Guess i'll be the one to take a,

939
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: layup even though you know Usually i'm the one shooting.

940
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Him BUT i don't want to be four. Guys it

941
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: doesn't make.

942
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: Sense, okay you, know well that ain't that ain't gonna

943
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 2: Happen i'm sorry you got good points up until that last.

944
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: Point it ain't gonna happen in THE. Nba but to your,

945
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: Point Kirk goldsbray broke down the. Stats you, know above

946
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: the break threes versus corner, threes which we all know

947
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: it's the easiest, shot and so the percentages are incredibly.

948
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: High but the above the break three percentage is also still.

949
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Good and so like you, said there will still be

950
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: guys above the the above the break three hanging out

951
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: there in THE nba, World so that's still going to be.

952
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: PROMINENT i don't think it'll be prominent as much as

953
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: the volleyball line at your at your local, gym BUT i.

954
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Would like to see. IT i think the variety.

955
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: IS i think you'll see some guys still standing in the,

956
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: corner right and and and so you'll standing in the

957
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: corner because it encourages, spacing because it helps out getting around.

958
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: Defenses but it's still.

959
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: Only two point.

960
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Shots so the question is whether or not guys will

961
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: start chucking from up top a lot. More BUT i

962
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: think there will be alternate skill sets that will see

963
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: more off like you, know post, Scores like we, said more,

964
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: Cutting i'm sure just to get around everybody and more mid.

965
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: Range probably it has to. Be it has to definitely

966
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: elevate the mid range shot, more which happens in THE,

967
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: nba but As kirk points, out it doesn't happen that.

968
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: Much MAYBE i heard something about this a month or so,

969
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: ago but maybe the way that the game is played

970
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: has kind of been an. Influx before we had three

971
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: point specialists and it was like a skill if You're

972
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: Steve kerr and you're coming in the game just to

973
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: hit two or three threes in the. Game where now

974
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 3: everybody's shooting the, three and now there's the mid ranging

975
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: specialist AND i think that's, UH i don't, KNOW i

976
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: remember what video this, was but somebody who's breaking it,

977
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: down it's like this has become the superstar. Shot and,

978
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: uh when you look at it like, that maybe that's

979
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: not a bad, thing, Right, like who who do we

980
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: think of that shoots mid? Rains first parts coming on

981
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: obviously is, shape, right That'sh then you got you got Your,

982
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: jimmy's you got your De. Rozan's guys that are stars.

983
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: Obviously Why, yeah so.

984
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: SORRY i have to INCLUDE qui even though it doesn't

985
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: play a, lot but, yeah.

986
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 4: Yeah you have to, ye, yeah you got. It but,

987
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: YEAH i MEAN i think maybe maybe that's what it.

988
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: Is maybe that's where we're, headed and maybe that's. OKAY

989
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: i know that's not where we came. From but with

990
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: the evolution of the, game we just have the mid range,

991
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: specialists like it's a TWO k.

992
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: Badge you, know that's an Interesting the mid range specialist

993
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: is an interesting thing because we don't see three point

994
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: specialists as.

995
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: Much there's they still.

996
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: Exist but like In Isaiah joe of The, thunder like

997
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: that's that's his, thing that's what he does.

998
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 4: Hard, yeah was that like A Luke? Canard?

999
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah but the good, ones because this is the

1000
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: best version of the, game like In Isaiah, joe develop

1001
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: enough to put it on the floor a little, bit you,

1002
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: know they can expand their games a little. Bit but

1003
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: you know the point from From kirk as he evaluates

1004
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: the numbers and we look at, it he, GOES i,

1005
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: mean this line was the exact same that they created

1006
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: oh long time, ago like forty six years, ago in

1007
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy. Nine so it's the same, floor it's the same.

1008
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: FORMAT i, know you don't like the look of WHAT

1009
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: i called the bucket hat. ESH i, MEAN i know

1010
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: it looks, different so it's. HARD i, mean he goes

1011
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: into what we saw happen in baseball a few years,

1012
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: ago where it's a little different because the baseball field

1013
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: dimensions don't change. Exactly but baseball saber, metrics the numbers

1014
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: started pulling guys over in the infield to take away pull,

1015
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: hits and so they, said all, right well the shift

1016
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: has to be. Eliminated so they eliminated the, shift and

1017
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: they made the bags, bigger and they turned on the pitch,

1018
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: clock and they limited to pick offf moves to two per,

1019
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: batter and so they, adapted AND i.

1020
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: Don't see a.

1021
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: PROBLEM i don't see a problem, here and a little

1022
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: adaption to try it just to see what. Evolves and

1023
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: AGAIN i think that's baseball used the minor. Leagues it

1024
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: is a little different in basketball to able to be

1025
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: able to utilize the minor leagues to as your test

1026
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: ground because there aren't as many leagues as in, baseball

1027
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: right like basketball strictly only has the ONE g. League

1028
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: if you were able to expand it to, COLLEGE i

1029
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: guess that that probably won't, happen but to.

1030
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Try it out is.

1031
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: Okay the scary part is like you're sort of, saying

1032
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: or are you just gonna see too many guys shooting? Threes

1033
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: like we're here at a record number of threes for

1034
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 2: The Boston celtics four to eight and a half. Threes,

1035
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: uh it's gonna it's gonna shatter the all time. Record

1036
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: it sure feels like that because they're so, good, Right

1037
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: like you were, saying that's that's the important. Part but

1038
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: are we going to see more of? That AND i

1039
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: think that's why you don't have to throw it in

1040
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: THE nba. YET i think that's what those teams are

1041
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: for in THE G. League that being, said there's not

1042
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: as many of them in in THE G, League like

1043
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: we go down here At College Park, skyhawks there's just

1044
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: not as many great three point. Shooters and so if

1045
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: you do see more guys shooting, threes they ain't gonna go.

1046
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: Down they're just not gonna. Be they're Not they're not

1047
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: gonna Be they're not gonna make as many, shots, Right

1048
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: SO i don't know if you're gonna see what you're

1049
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: actually would see in THE.

1050
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: Nba it's kind of like a good.

1051
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: Representation.

1052
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah and our Man Sam, vassini he, Commented he,

1053
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: said you want to see more free, throws that's what

1054
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna, see WHICH i don't really but why would that?

1055
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: Happen just because there's more, space so guys will be

1056
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 2: able to go buy players more and so you're gonna

1057
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: just gonna see fouling because you have to try and stop.

1058
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: Them it's gonna be harder to stop them because of

1059
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: where they are on the.

1060
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: Floor, yeah LIKE i, SAID i think if we go

1061
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: with my theory of being a little bit more cluttered

1062
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: at the, top it could be more fouling up, there maybe.

1063
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: Leading to more fruit.

1064
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: Throws or just like you, said like if if we

1065
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 3: decide that we're gonna force guys to drive, more, hey

1066
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: get rid of this element of the game over, here

1067
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: and we're just gonna make you drop to the, Basket,

1068
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: like then there's gonna be more defenses that shift toward

1069
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: there and then you're meeting them at the. BASKET i

1070
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: just think more fouls occur there, too so then you

1071
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: maybe slow the game down that. WAY i don't, know it's,

1072
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: interesting it's an interesting topic and debate for.

1073
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 4: Sure.

1074
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah because what it comes down to is, that you,

1075
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 2: know mysteries are more common than miss, Twos, like.

1076
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: YEAH i, THINK i think.

1077
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: DECIDE i mentioned some of the old heads that you

1078
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: see at the gym that don't like, it don't like

1079
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: that part of.

1080
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: IT i get.

1081
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: IT i, MEAN i would like to see more more,

1082
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: cutting WHICH i think this would. Encourage i'd like to

1083
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: see more ball, movement WHICH i think this would. Encourage

1084
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: i'd like to see more, handles WHICH i think this would.

1085
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: Encourage it's, yeah but you don't want to see the

1086
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: number of threes matching the number of. Two's really it's

1087
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 2: become so even THAT i would just like to see

1088
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: the result off, top like you, said on top of

1089
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: that bucket.

1090
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: HATS i guess my question is somebody who WHEN i play, basketball,

1091
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: Like i'm a, shooter always, been, SO i shoot a

1092
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: lot of threes and a pick up. Run, yeah but

1093
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: why are? Threes why are three so? Bad why do

1094
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: people hate them so? Much why are they feeling, like, oh,

1095
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: yeah we can't get them? Up, because LIKE i, said

1096
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: if you watch AN nba, game it's not like one

1097
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 3: hundred percent shots or threes and there's no. Skill it's

1098
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: not like they're just dribbling down the court and then

1099
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 3: they just tack it up, right AND i, know, yeah

1100
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: like you, said it's, half but there's still other things,

1101
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Right like you still have all the highlights that we

1102
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: was always we've always.

1103
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: Had we have all the drives and all the step

1104
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: backs and even the post ups are still.

1105
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: There people don't like.

1106
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: Change, ash that's what thinks WHAT i, Think that's what

1107
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: it comes out. To what what happened to the GAME i?

1108
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: LOVE i THINK i think that's what it. Is it's

1109
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 2: just like you get a little. Older i'm not sure

1110
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: how old the guys you play, with.

1111
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: But, yeah all ages from from literally the oldest guy

1112
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: we played with this seventy.

1113
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: Five, okay, okay so she's he or she's gonna be.

1114
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: Old they're gonna hate what they. See, yeah but hold,

1115
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: on what about like how young are the?

1116
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: Youngs the youngest people are like, sixteen like we, have

1117
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 3: but the greatest mix of guys they hate.

1118
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: Threes it, depends.

1119
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: Like you, know some of the some of the young

1120
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: guys are out there chucking and some of the other

1121
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: ones are smarter and they're, like, HEY i get to

1122
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: the rim and they're some of the old guys that

1123
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: are that literally never cross the three point line and

1124
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: there's some of the old guys that's, like if you

1125
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: don't pass it to Big steve who's six ten in the,

1126
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: post like we're gonna, fight you know WHAT i.

1127
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: Mean SO i don't, KNOW i, honestly but.

1128
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: Even young people talk like, that like we're gonna fight

1129
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: if you don't give it to the guy in the.

1130
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 3: Post there's some it's, rarer of, course, right but the young, guys,

1131
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: LIKE i, MEAN i get. It LIKE i think that

1132
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: there's bad three point. SHOTS i get, That AND i

1133
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of, teams a lot of players

1134
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: who probably shouldn't chuck as.

1135
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 4: Much i'm not.

1136
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 3: Arguing against, THAT i, guess BUT i THINK i think

1137
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: that we are overreacting a.

1138
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 4: Bit, okay, yeah three.

1139
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: Point BUT i don't, know maybe in a couple of,

1140
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: Years i'll feel like everybody else because it's just it

1141
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: just continues to go. Up but at some point somebody's

1142
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: gonna come, in Like wimby for. Example you, KNOW i,

1143
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: mean he can shoot the. Three but like If steph

1144
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: changed the, game we've had to check change the, game

1145
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: Or jordan changed the, game Like winby might be the

1146
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: next person to change the game to something, different and

1147
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 3: in a couple of years be saying, like.

1148
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 4: HEY i missed when we shot more.

1149
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: Threes you, know LIKE i don't know what that, is

1150
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 3: but we have to give a time like this explosion

1151
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 3: is over the past few, years but it's it's been

1152
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 3: like really a ten, year simple. Size it's going to

1153
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: happen over the next ten.

1154
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i mean we've reached the high this current.

1155
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: Year AND.

1156
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: I think what people often complain about is like a one, pass,

1157
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: yeah possession three you, know just here it is and

1158
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: then you know it's going back and forth really.

1159
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: Quick that's What that's WHAT i.

1160
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: Think that that's a result of the paysing space that everybody,

1161
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: wanted right they The sun's introduced in early two thousands

1162
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: and everybody started going with. It spurs did it in twenty,

1163
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: fourteen and then now The warriors that have taken it

1164
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: to the next, level and The celtics are taking it

1165
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: to the Next.

1166
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah the rockets in between, there they tried the, Rockets,

1167
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: yeah they, tried and they almost got.

1168
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: There they almost beat The.

1169
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Warriors but now when you're seeing this record and you're

1170
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: seeing a team doing it that won THE Nba, championship

1171
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: so it really breeds a lot of people are watching

1172
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: it just.

1173
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: Because it was The.

1174
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: Celtics that's.

1175
00:54:52,760 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: All just to share one of the. Comments you're on

1176
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: the stream TEAM i. GOT i got called out here

1177
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: a Mayor schlaka said cutting happens already so much task

1178
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: please stop BECAUSE i said that would encourage more. Cutting,

1179
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: YEAH i think it. WOULD i, mean, yeah, YEAH i

1180
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: think it would cut. More we'd see more of. It

1181
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: it kind of does.

1182
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 4: Happen nobody said that it was never.

1183
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: HAPPENING i.

1184
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 2: Can't stop talking About Jimmy butler Loving neaymar and how

1185
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: it looks like The warriors are always. Cutting like you,

1186
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: said they run the elevator. Play but, anyway it's it's

1187
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: a good discussion to.

1188
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: Have so is this? One moving?

1189
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: On speaking of young, guys young Guy Gig, jackson twenty year,

1190
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 2: old had this to say after his coach was. Fired

1191
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: Taylor denkins was, fired and then he said this is

1192
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 2: how he found out.

1193
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: QUOTE i was.

1194
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Brushing my teeth and my friends called me and said

1195
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 2: Coach jenkins got. FIRED i was, like they probably saw

1196
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: that ON nba. Sentel it's a Great reddit thread shared

1197
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: by Sheet, larry because, man we all GET nba senteled it's.

1198
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: Happened it's happened to the best of, us and then

1199
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: we often get. Lazy BECAUSE i mentioned HOW i GOT

1200
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: Nba sentel That luca apparently was called after he was

1201
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: traded By Nico harrison at like two or three in the.

1202
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: MORNING Nba sentel put up the screenshot of all the

1203
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 2: phone miss, calls AND i, say come, On so it

1204
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 2: was An it looked like BECAUSE Nba sentel was trying

1205
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: to sell it looked Like Luca's instagram. Story SO i

1206
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: went To instagram to see If luca had.

1207
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: It it wasn't.

1208
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: There BUT i still mentioned it on the show because

1209
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: once something gets planned or, PLANTED i should, say it leaves.

1210
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: This vestige in your, head like, okay.

1211
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: Maybe that, happens so you start talking about. Things you

1212
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: SEE Nba sentel didn't Get Gigi jackson though this was.

1213
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: Legitimate he he, He he said that in more details

1214
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: in the. Interview he kind of s, that you, KNOW

1215
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: i didn't call all my guys and all my teammates

1216
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: to figure out what's going. ON i just started to

1217
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: think ABOUT i started to try and understand what was

1218
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: going to happen to our, team how this would impact our.

1219
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: Team what was your take on this this Gg jackson

1220
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: reddit thread that was was fun Ash.

1221
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: Uh that's. Awesome, YEAH i Love Cintel like it gets me.

1222
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes but see That yeah, again nobody got sentil his

1223
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: buddies didn't get.

1224
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: Senteled, no but he thought they. Could but, anyways you love.

1225
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: It, Uh, YEAH i Love cintel as far AS G jackson, like,

1226
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: yeah it kind of, sucks you, know you find out

1227
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: your coach.

1228
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Is fired that.

1229
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: Way LIKE i feel bad FOR nba players sometimes when

1230
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: they find out news through like unconventional, ways like they

1231
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: somebody didn't come and tell. Them you, know people find

1232
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: out they got, traded their trum shams themselves or something like.

1233
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: That you, know like they're just On twitter and they're,

1234
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 3: like OH i got. Traded this is. Real that's that's

1235
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: kind of insane to. Me BUT Nba, SINTEL i think it's.

1236
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: FUNNY i think it's. Hilarious they always, have you, know

1237
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: their their whole group of fake reporter handles Like charms

1238
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: Or Crisby hayne Not, haynes and it makes you really.

1239
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 4: Have to double.

1240
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: CHECK i, know we live in a society with a

1241
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of fake, news you. Know, yeah

1242
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: me and so it's nice sometimes to just you got

1243
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: to make sure that you're checking your sources for, Sure

1244
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 3: like make sure that you go in, there you see

1245
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: everything and see what's going, on make sure you're not missing.

1246
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: Anything keeps you on your. Toes.

1247
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: Man i'm here ON NBA senta BECAUSE i want to

1248
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: quickly go over how they were eliminated From. TWITTER i

1249
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: mean they were taking Off twitter for a day because

1250
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: THE nba was trying to figure out what to. Do

1251
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: but they put them back on BECAUSE i suppose because

1252
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: in a, way any publicity is good publicity for THE.

1253
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: NBA i, mean this count has half a million, followers

1254
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: and so they kept them. Around AND i just saw

1255
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: something About i'm not even gonna share. It don't, share

1256
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: don't share, misinformation not even gonna talk about. It but

1257
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: it is it is. True you do have To you

1258
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: got to check all those.

1259
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: Sources, Now, yeah just make sure you double. CHECKING i

1260
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: think is. Good it is good.

1261
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: Practice they're doing their job trying to keep you on your.

1262
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: Toes maybe we should have you, KNOW i can't even

1263
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: say more of that because there's a lot of misinformation.

1264
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: Already you should just make sure that you go and double,

1265
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: check don't believe the first thing you see On. Facebook

1266
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: don't believe the first thing you see On.

1267
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: Twitter you, know, like, yeah there's just all they're all

1268
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: over on the. Tweets Blue sky is like Old, twitter

1269
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: where it's like everything is on the up and.

1270
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: Up it's pretty.

1271
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: Legitimate, yeah just, sure it sure feels that. WAY i

1272
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't even want to say that Because i'm

1273
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure if that's, true BECAUSE i

1274
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: don't spend a ton of time.

1275
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: There but it sure feels that. Way it feels like literally.

1276
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: Ten fifteen years, ago it was awesome On twitter where

1277
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: you just go on there to see what you're complaining,

1278
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 2: about seeing guys shooting above the volleyball, line you, know like.

1279
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Like that kind of, stuff like real.

1280
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: Stuff, yeah that's real, Stuff, esh complaining about the volleyball

1281
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: line that, anyway anything to Add, esh BECAUSE i think

1282
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: it's our time to go.

1283
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: Here oh, MAN i don't think.

1284
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: So i'm glad we could do.

1285
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: It, yeah been, fun been a great. Time appreciate uh

1286
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: letting me hop on the. Mic and you don't have

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Speaker 3: to build some. Time you don't have to thank.

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Speaker 1: Me you can do it.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you're a part of the, show and just to

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Speaker 2: let people know the show should be. Back this is

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Speaker 2: a weird time in THE nba where we don't really

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Speaker 2: know what's going on In march And. April it's sort

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Speaker 2: of the weird time for The No Dunk. Screw we

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Speaker 2: will be back affirmatively for sure next. Week i'm just

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Speaker 2: not sure if It's monday Or, tuesday but it will

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Speaker 2: be early next week because a couple of the guys

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Speaker 2: are taking days. Off but next week we shall be

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Speaker 2: back at least some of. Us and then as we

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Speaker 2: get into the play in, tournament where tickets are already

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Speaker 2: being sold here In, atlanta A, SEAN i don't know

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Speaker 2: if you purchased. Them we'll be back one hundred of the,

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Speaker 2: time full. Squad but for, Now Clipper, bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here, first have a great, time turn.

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Speaker 4: Up love you guys, Awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining, us and remember this is the best

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Speaker 2: version of basketball in the history of.

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