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Speaker 1: Lights out and away we ao Welcome to No Breaks,

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Speaker 1: a Formula one podcast from the No Dunks, Inc. Classic Factory,

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Speaker 1: proudly a part of the Athletic Podcast Network. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: of the slipstream team watching on YouTube. Thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: along for the ride, and thanks to Sergio for coining

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Speaker 1: the term slip scream team. I love it. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host today, Trey Kirby. We've got JD Fine tuning things

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Speaker 1: down on pit Row and our guest today is a

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Speaker 1: real No Dunk's man of mystery. You hear his name

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Speaker 1: on the podcast probably once a month, regarding a variety

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Speaker 1: of topics including, but not limited to, Mountain by racing,

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Speaker 1: fly fishing, boxing, the San Antonio Spurs, jazz music, international wines, Parliament, Funkadelic,

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Speaker 1: meme cats, and most importantly today, He's one of the

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Speaker 1: few people I know who was an F one fan

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Speaker 1: before Drive to Survive came out on Netflix. It's Graydon Gordian.

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Speaker 2: Ah, thank you. It's so excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, it's a dream come true for all these years

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Speaker 3: to be welcomes onto No Ducks.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time man. We've been friends now

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Speaker 1: for about a decade. Met in the early days of

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Speaker 1: the NBA BLOGI spear shout out to forty eight minutes

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Speaker 1: a hell your great Spurs site from back in the

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Speaker 1: day we watched Game six of the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: nine Bowl Celtics first round series together. That's a bonding moment, Graydon.

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Speaker 1: That isn't happen Atlanta, So it only makes sense to

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Speaker 1: finally hop on a podcast and talk about race cars.

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Speaker 2: That day that we watched that in that bar in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Watching the Bulls that day is still I not even

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Speaker 3: a Bulls fan, but it is still maybe my favorite

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Speaker 3: like game bar watching experience of my entire life.

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Speaker 2: The place was electric. It was incredible.

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Speaker 1: So fuck sure, the Bulls winning a Game six of

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Speaker 1: a first round series that they ended up losing is

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Speaker 1: one of the high points of the Bulls since nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety eight. But I'm one hundred percent with you. I

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Speaker 1: will never forget that day. It was a great time.

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Speaker 1: we've been working with them. It's only available for a week, though,

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Speaker 1: think I need one of each actually, because they are

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Speaker 1: this is my favorite design. I think I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say that this is my favorite design. I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: it a lot JD. A lot of people are fans

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Speaker 1: of this one, and you know, Grayton and I are

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Speaker 1: both wearing hats here. Hats off to Breaking Tea. They

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Speaker 1: came to us and said, hey, we heard you've mentioned

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Speaker 1: Formula one on the podcast a few times. Would you

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Speaker 1: ever want to do a shirt? Oh yeah, we would

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Speaker 1: just hang on to it because we got a podcast

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Speaker 1: coming out later on in August, and that podcast is

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Speaker 1: finally here. Graydon had to have you on because you've

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Speaker 1: been a Formula one fan longer than anybody I know

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Speaker 1: outside of Lee Els. I'd just start watching F one.

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Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta find out more about this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had no idea about the gas thing either.

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Speaker 3: way Ricardo has performed so far. So I mean it's

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Speaker 3: it's I think that's going to be very exciting. I

437
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Speaker 3: do think that's a two horse race. Maybe Alpine could

438
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Speaker 3: climb back into it, maybe Alphatari with gasly driving as

439
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Speaker 3: well as he has. But for me, I think we're

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Speaker 3: looking at some combination of mc claren, Ferrari, third, fourth,

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Speaker 3: you know, by the time the end of the season comes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems most likely to me as well. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe Alpine makes a little bit of a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a charge here, But to me, it feels like

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Speaker 1: they already had a great season, just with what happened

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Speaker 1: in Hungary, you know, as thee Bonocon got his first

447
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Speaker 1: win and we had that awesome battle between Alonzo and

448
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Speaker 1: Hamilton for like fifteen laughs. Like that's a whole season

449
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Speaker 1: of cool stuff happening right there.

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Speaker 3: For sure, that's a huge that that alone makes this

451
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Speaker 3: a win for Alpine. It had been a minute since

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Speaker 3: a Reno powered car had.

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Speaker 2: You know, won a race. And also just you.

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Speaker 3: Know, for Fernando Alonso to come back, a guy who

455
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Speaker 3: you know, had been out of his own free will

456
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Speaker 3: but had been out of f one to come back

457
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Speaker 3: and then to drive so well and drive so competitively

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Speaker 3: with a guy like Lewis right on his tail. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think it's just an awesome race for them. Super

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Speaker 3: cool to see a young guy like Okon get a win.

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Speaker 3: It's I think one of my favorite moments in F

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Speaker 3: one is when you see a guy win his first

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Speaker 3: Grand Prix. It is there, there is just an excitant

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Speaker 3: that is, you know nothing. You know, it's a moment

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Speaker 3: in sports that it's just so thrilling for a guy

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Let's talk about some of

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Speaker 1: our favorite and least favorite things we've saw so far

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Speaker 1: during this Formula One season, Graydon, We'll start with our

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Speaker 1: favorite race. What do you think was the best race

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Speaker 1: of the first half of the season.

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Speaker 3: So there's a number of races that were terrific, but

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Speaker 3: for me, I'm going to go with Azer Bideshan. First

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Speaker 3: of all, my boy Charlie Leclair. You know, charl got

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Speaker 3: poll which I love to see. He crushes on Saturdays

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Speaker 3: and I love to see it. But and for much

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Speaker 3: of the race, I actually think you probably wouldn't say

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Speaker 3: it was the best race of the season. It almost

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Speaker 3: looked like it might even be a boring ending heading

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Speaker 3: towards the end. But once you saw Verstaffn's kind of

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Speaker 3: tire blow up and we had the restart, things went crazy.

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Speaker 2: You know, he.

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Speaker 3: Locks up, Hamilton locks up his breaks and misses the

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Speaker 3: first turn, you know, out of the main straightaway, Perez

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Speaker 3: in the first which he holds off, and then you

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Speaker 3: see some incredible racing from Pierre Gasley, charl Leclair, and

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Speaker 3: Lando Norris over the last few laps as they battled

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Speaker 3: for the last podium. Plays that for me, if you're

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Speaker 3: new to F one, go back and watch those guys

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Speaker 3: on those last few laps. It is just awesome stuff,

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Speaker 3: so intense. That was my favorite moment of the year.

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Speaker 3: And also just to see a race you don't see

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Speaker 3: it or often where both the two title leaders walked

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Speaker 3: away with zero combined points. It's not every day you

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Speaker 3: see that, which for me makes it, you know, my

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Speaker 3: favorite of the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're saying it was, Azerbaijan was so crazy

498
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Speaker 1: because it's like it looked like verstap and had this

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Speaker 1: one wrapped up and then his tire just completely blue

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Speaker 1: with what maybe four laps remainings not very much, and

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Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, I think Perez was technically in first.

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Speaker 1: There but a quick start for Hamilton on the restart

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Speaker 1: and he could easily overtake and then maybe he's the winner.

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Speaker 1: But his breaks were like Jim Carrey at in the

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Speaker 1: mask smoking, he can't stop, he drops to last, and then,

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Speaker 1: like you're saying, the battle between Gosly and Leclaire on

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Speaker 1: that last lap, I think Leclaire passed him into third

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Speaker 1: at one point and Gosly came back ended up finishing

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Speaker 1: on the podium. That was a really fun race for

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Speaker 1: one that looked like it was gonna be over, you know,

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Speaker 1: with four or five laps remaining. For me, though, best

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Speaker 1: race was the British Grand Prix at Silverston, the first

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Speaker 1: race of the season with fans Hamilton's home track they

514
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Speaker 1: renamed a straight for him. It was the first race

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Speaker 1: with sprint qualifying and it was no doubt the most

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Speaker 1: controversial race of the season thanks to a first lap

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Speaker 1: scrap between Lewis and Max. They were mixing it up

518
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Speaker 1: for the whole first half of the first lap. They

519
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Speaker 1: get to turn nine cops corner. I hear it's called

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00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: and I don't know Graydon, I don't know what's I

521
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: don't know, actually, who's right? About this. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: Hamilton had the inside line, seemed like Verstappen was going faster.

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Speaker 1: Hamilton says Max turned into him. Lewis says, or Max

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Speaker 1: says that Lewis didn't leave him enough room. Regardless, a

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Speaker 1: humongous crash for Max Verstaff and they said he went

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Speaker 1: into the wall at fifty one G's the guy had

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Speaker 1: to go to the hospital. He ended up being okay,

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Speaker 1: thankfully in the race though, Lewis Hamilton gets a ten

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Speaker 1: second stop and go penalty. What do you think, Graydon,

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Speaker 1: was that the right call there?

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Speaker 2: It's it's tough, you know. I think obviously.

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Speaker 3: Red Bull felt it was and felt it wasn't even

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Speaker 3: close to sufficient. A ten second stop and go penalty

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Speaker 3: is fairly harsh for what was a pretty extreme incident.

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Speaker 2: I think it was fair. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely something to see Hamilton come all the way

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Speaker 3: back and then win the race.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure is especially.

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Speaker 4: Was I know for a fact, was especially frustrating for

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Speaker 4: red Bull, but he was electrifying to watch him do

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Speaker 4: that overtake so many people fight his way through the field, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, it was It made for a great race, and.

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Speaker 3: I think in the end It's one of those things

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Speaker 3: where it's just you know, what happens on the track.

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Speaker 2: If the penalty is.

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Speaker 3: Enforced on the track, you know, the person who survives

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Speaker 3: the wreck is always going to come out a little

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Speaker 3: bit better, even.

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Speaker 2: If they cause it.

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Speaker 3: It's just kind of something that's a little bit unfair

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Speaker 3: about racing, but is a reality that I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: you can change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems to me that most of the

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Speaker 1: other drivers were like probably just the racing incident, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Red Bull already has a reputation for complaining

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Speaker 1: about stuff, but man, that was a nasty crash. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Hamilton gets his ten seconds stop and go penalty. I

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Speaker 1: think he serves it on lap thirty one of a

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Speaker 1: fifty two lap race, comes out and fourth. He overtakes

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Speaker 1: Lando pretty quickly to go into third. He catches up

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Speaker 1: to Botas. Botas lets him through to second at lap forty.

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Speaker 1: At that point, Hamilton's eight seconds back of the Leclair

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Speaker 1: with twelve laps left. I'm sure they said it was

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Speaker 1: Hammer time, and it definitely was. Hamilton finally tracks down

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Speaker 1: Mclair passes him with two laps remaining, and he passed

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Speaker 1: him at Cops Corner. With basically the same move he

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Speaker 1: used on Verstappen earlier. The crowd's going crazy. They cut

568
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Speaker 1: to the Mercedes paddock. Tom Cruise is there for some reason.

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Speaker 1: He's loving it. He's going crazy. Of course, Hamilkington gets

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Speaker 1: the w narrows Max's lead. At the time Leclair finishes second.

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Speaker 1: He led most of that race, a really great drive

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Speaker 1: and you know Botos gets a little tip of the cap.

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Speaker 1: They're at third thanks to the team orders. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was very funny that Hamilton after orders like what

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Speaker 1: a great sportsman Vouchree was letting me win. That's truly

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Speaker 1: great sportsmanship. But yeah, super controversial race and a ton

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Speaker 1: of fun. We'll move on to biggest surprise of the season.

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Speaker 1: What's a driver or a team or whatever that surprised

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Speaker 1: you during this first half For.

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Speaker 3: Me, so there's been a lot of surprises this year,

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Speaker 3: but for me, the biggest surprise is Williams with ten

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Speaker 3: points at the break. A lot of people thought Williams

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Speaker 3: were going to improve. You've got new ownership, you have

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Speaker 3: a new team principle. They're making new investments into the

585
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Speaker 3: team and with two great young drivers, we thought that

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't be as bad as they were in years prior, but.

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Speaker 2: With ten points, they now have more.

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Speaker 3: Points than they had combined in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen

589
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Speaker 3: and twenty twenty All three of those seasons together, they

590
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Speaker 3: only scored eight points, including zero last year, so to

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Speaker 3: have ten at this point in the season is a

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Speaker 3: huge step forward for them. It's an awesome achievement. Super

593
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Speaker 3: excited for them, Super excited for George Russell to finally

594
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Speaker 3: get some points after you know, so many races. I

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Speaker 3: think he had become the driver who had driven the

596
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Speaker 3: longest with a single team without having scored a point

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Speaker 3: for it. So it's nice that that's no longer hanging

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Speaker 3: over his head, you know. So it's starting to show that,

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Speaker 3: you know, you can come back from being a back marker,

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Speaker 3: you know, to make the investments, put in the time,

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Speaker 3: build the car and you can start to ench your

602
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Speaker 3: way back. And I think in a few years we're

603
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Speaker 3: going to wake up and see Williams as a competitive

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Speaker 3: team again. So really really excited, but admittedly pretty surprised

605
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: where they're at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Hungary was a fun race,

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Speaker 1: a hilarious start from Botas looked like me playing an

608
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Speaker 1: f one video game where you just floor it because

609
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Speaker 1: you can't figure out how to gently ease on to

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Speaker 1: the throttle, crashes into everybody. So Williams was able to

611
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Speaker 1: pick up some points there. They're definitely of the back

612
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Speaker 1: marking teams. It's them, Alfa, Romeo and has Right. They're beloved,

613
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Speaker 1: at least Williams is. And everybody thinks Russell's a future champion.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a supreme talent once he's in a

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Speaker 3: faster car, which I think it seems fairly likely he

618
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: might be driving the Mercedes next year. I think you'll

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Speaker 3: see him probably win a race next year, or at

620
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: least be on the podium several times. And I do

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Speaker 3: think that he definitely has what it takes to be

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Speaker 3: a champion. There's a lot of young guys with championship

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Speaker 3: you know, metal, but he's definitely among them.

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Speaker 2: And you're right.

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Speaker 3: It did take a crazy race like Hungary to get

626
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Speaker 3: Williams into the points, but oftentimes that's what it takes

627
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Speaker 3: for a back marker to start scoring points. Things have

628
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Speaker 3: to get a little wild, which Hungary is certainly seeing.

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Speaker 3: A single car restart with Hamilton is about the wildest

630
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Speaker 3: thing I've ever totally did so, I truly had never

631
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Speaker 3: seen anything like that.

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Speaker 2: So but nonetheless they made it happen.

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Speaker 3: You know that they kept the cars on the track,

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Speaker 3: and you know we're rewarded for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's been crazy races before where Williams hasn't

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Speaker 1: scored points, So hats off to them. My biggest surprise

637
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Speaker 1: I see Colin White said the same thing here in

638
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Speaker 1: the Slip Scream team. I never thought Carlos Signs would

639
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Speaker 1: be just as good as Charles Leclair and that has

640
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: been impressive to me. You know, Signs came over to

641
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Speaker 1: Ferrari this season. Right now, he's got a lead on Leclair.

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Speaker 1: Eighty three points for Signs, eighty for Leclair, and I

643
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Speaker 1: think it just comes down to the DNS, right, Graydon,

644
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Speaker 1: because Leclair has qualified higher in eight of the eleven races,

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Speaker 1: he's finished higher in seven of eleven races, but Signs

646
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Speaker 1: has a couple of podiums to Leclair's one. Obviously, Leclair

647
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Speaker 1: had the major setback at Monaco where one poll and

648
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: then crashed on the last lap of qualifying, wasn't able

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Speaker 1: to start. Hamilton tracked him down like we were talking

650
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Speaker 1: at Silverston. But I really love seeing Carlos Signs competing

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Speaker 1: with one of the best in the game because Leclair,

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Speaker 1: to me, has been fast tracked as one of the

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Speaker 1: next big things in the sports. Carlos Signs he's just

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Speaker 1: a nice guy, very handsome, but he's been on a

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Speaker 1: bunch of teams here, three teams in four seasons. To me,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like he keeps things steady and he

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Speaker 1: adjusts to every single race. He's able to get the

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Speaker 1: most out of whichever car he's driving, which I think

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Speaker 1: is impressive and really it's exactly what Ferrari needed. A

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Speaker 1: little stability there because Vettel was just the spin factory

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Speaker 1: for his last couple of years for the scooter area.

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Speaker 1: So Sign's coming in and pushing Leclair, I think has

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Speaker 1: been really really impressive.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I couldn't agree more. Signs is so consistent

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Speaker 3: in his consistency is what's.

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Speaker 2: Keeping him competitive. I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: Leclair's ceiling is much higher, and if he can cut

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Speaker 3: down on these DNFs, cutdowns on some of these self

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Speaker 3: inflicted wounds like he had at Monaco, he's probably still

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Speaker 3: in the lead. And I suspect that he'll have more

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Speaker 3: points than Signs by the end of the season. I

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Speaker 3: would be very impressed if Signs can keep this up

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Speaker 3: in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Of the year.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that the reason you're seeing Ferrari

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Speaker 3: where they are in the overall standings is because as

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Speaker 3: a second driver's Signs is so reliable and is getting

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Speaker 3: the most out of the car.

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Speaker 2: Week in week out.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the car, one of the biggest challenges that

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Speaker 3: EF one drivers complain about is adjusting to a new

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Speaker 3: car and.

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Speaker 2: Moving from McLaren to Ferrari.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about two very different styles, different engines, different

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Speaker 3: aero dynamics. The fact that science has picked it up

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Speaker 3: as quickly as he has very impressive.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a great segue and a great question from

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Speaker 1: Arthur in the Slipstream team. He says, ask Graydon, what's

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Speaker 1: going on with Ricardo? He's being terrible this year. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about our biggest disappointments. Great and get us started.

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Speaker 3: Bud he is it's you know, he is my biggest disappointment.

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Speaker 3: I'm very surprised that Daniel Ricardo. You're talking about a

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Speaker 3: guy with seven race wins, you know, a guy, guy

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Speaker 3: who knows how to how to get up on the podium.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he's sixty three.

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Speaker 3: Points behind his teammate Lando. I understand Lando is having

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Speaker 3: a spectacular season, maybe the best season outside of you know,

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Speaker 3: easily the best season outside of anybody not named Max

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Speaker 3: or Lewis. But nonetheless, for Danny to be floundering down

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Speaker 3: in ninth, it's a huge disappointment. I know he's disappointed.

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Speaker 3: He's complained about challenges with the car. Perhaps there's you know,

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Speaker 3: and there's issues with I think the breaking style. He's

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Speaker 3: kind of famously known as the last of the late breakers,

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Speaker 3: and he's claimed that he's that he can't necessarily drive

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Speaker 3: his very aggressive style into turns. But nonetheless, I think

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Speaker 3: it's a shock and you know, you'd hope you'd see real,

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Speaker 3: meaningful improvement because clearly the car is capable of a

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Speaker 3: pace that he's just not matching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's strange to see when you compare in

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Speaker 1: them a lot to like Perez or Signs or Vettal,

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Speaker 1: these veterans who have also switched to new cars this year,

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Speaker 1: and they've been able to figure it out. Like Paras

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Speaker 1: I thought had a bit of a rocky start with

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Speaker 1: Red Bull, but he's obviously turned it around. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit bummed about Danny Rick this year

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Speaker 1: at McLaren as well. He's one of the best personalities

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Speaker 1: in F one. If you've watched Drive to Survive, like

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Speaker 1: it's impossible not to be cheering for the guy. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was looking forward to him and Lando together. You know,

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Speaker 1: I love Lando's a great trash talker. Danny Ricks the opposite.

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Speaker 1: He just wants everybody to have fun out there. I

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Speaker 1: thought they were gonna be a great team, and like

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Lando's been great, but Danny has not brought.

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Speaker 2: It for me.

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Speaker 1: Biggest disappointment so far Aston Martin only forty eight points.

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Speaker 1: It's a disappointing season for them. They were P four

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Speaker 1: last year as racing point. They swapped in Sebastian Vettel

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Speaker 1: for Sergio Perez, still got Lance stroll around, but they

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Speaker 1: just haven't been competitive at all. I love the Green Livery,

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Speaker 1: but I'm missing that classic racing point, pink and blue,

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Speaker 1: and as it turns out, no pink Mercedes, no chance

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Speaker 1: for Aston Martin. Regulations changed or prior to this season

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Speaker 1: regarding high rake and low rake cars. Graydon no idea

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Speaker 1: what a rake is, no idea what a higher a

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Speaker 1: low rake could possibly mean. But I know it affected

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Speaker 1: Mercedes and Aston Martin more than anybody else except for

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Speaker 1: Mercedes is actually building their cars so they can adjust.

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Speaker 1: Aston Martin has just become another team. You know, they

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Speaker 1: really challenged for third last year, but now they're kind

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Speaker 1: of at the back of the midfield. So it's got

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Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a disappointment for Aston Martin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's definitely a huge disappointment. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: having a pole position last year in Turkey for Lance

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Speaker 3: getting a win at the secured GP with Sergio Perez

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Speaker 3: behind the wheel, you know, I think they had hoped.

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Speaker 2: To repeat that success. But you're right.

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Speaker 3: The regulations that affected the you know that were affected

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Speaker 3: low rate cars more in particular, which just as a

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Speaker 3: quick explainer to.

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Speaker 2: Those sport low rate cars are cars that are.

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Speaker 3: A little bit longer and have a slightly less aggressive

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Speaker 3: angle about them, where high rate cars are a little

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Speaker 3: shorter and they're angled more aggressively, which famously, you know,

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Speaker 3: Mercedes is a very low rake car and Red Bull

755
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Speaker 3: is a very high rate car, which always helps it

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Speaker 3: in the corners it has a lot more aerodynamics, but

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Speaker 3: a low rake car has less drag and therefore will

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Speaker 3: be faster on the straightaways. So it's choices that you

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Speaker 3: have to make when you're setting up the car. And

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Speaker 3: whatever the regulation changes were, to be honest, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if.

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Speaker 2: I explain them.

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Speaker 3: They changed somehow, but inarguably they've they've impacted, you know,

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Speaker 3: the low rate teams a lot. You know, S and

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Speaker 3: Martin being where they are, and then similarly Mercedes now

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Speaker 3: being challenged by Red Bull, you know that they've lost

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Speaker 3: some time comparatively to their biggest rival.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it worked out for the competitive nature up top

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Speaker 1: for the championship, but if you're asked and Martin, you're

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00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: probably like somebody gave you a cake and it's like here,

771
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: you try and bake that cake just from looking at it,

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Speaker 1: and they don't know the ingredients unfortunately for them. But

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Speaker 1: I think I see a yellow flag. Looks like we

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Speaker 1: got a safety car coming through. Gotta get things cleaned

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Speaker 1: up around here when we come back NBA Formula One

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Speaker 1: Driver Comparisons, Welcome back to the show. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of knowledgeable F one fans in the No Dunks universe,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of real graden Gordians, but we've also got

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Speaker 1: a lot of Trey Kirby's in the mix, new fans

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Speaker 1: who are just getting their feet wet. So to ease

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Speaker 1: the transition, and because we are technically a basketball show,

782
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: thought it would be fun to do some Formula one

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Speaker 1: driver NBA comparisons. Graydon I'll give you a driver's name,

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Speaker 1: you break down who they are in the NBA. There

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00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: are twenty drivers, probably too many for right now, so

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Speaker 1: we got about half of them ready to rock. Let's

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Speaker 1: give it a go. First one, we're starting at the top.

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Speaker 1: Who is the NBA comparison for Lewis Hamilton?

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Speaker 3: This one is probably the easiest because there's really only.

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00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: Two people you could compare Lewis to and.

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Speaker 3: For me, as the modern day got, he's got to

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00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: be Lebron James. He's he's a complete driver, he's a

793
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: complete player.

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Speaker 2: He does everything for you.

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Speaker 3: But it's also it's not just about what they do

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00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 3: on the court or the course. It's about the fact

797
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: that Lebron has his burgeoning media empire.

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Speaker 2: He's got interests outside of the game.

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Speaker 3: So does Lewis Hamilton with his fashion line. He's got

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Speaker 3: myriad interests. They're just huge personalities that whose impact on

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00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: global culture are going to transcend their time at the

802
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: top of their sports. For me, it's it's you know

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00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: the way that mjs Lebron Schumacher is to Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a pretty easy one, and you're

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00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: seeing it in the slipstream team all over the place.

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00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: Lewis equals Lebron. Both are chasing a Michael. I like

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00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: that point, Jerry, and both are seen as whiny by

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Speaker 1: their haters. That's absolutely true as well becoming a Lewis

809
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Hamilton fan, I felt like I was becoming a Lebron

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Speaker 1: James fan in twenty ten. Next one up on the list,

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Speaker 1: who is your NBA comparison? Graydon for Max Verstappin.

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Speaker 3: This was a tricky one because I actually I actually

813
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: struggled to think this one, but I decided that for me,

814
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: it's really about who is a guy who maybe to

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: some as a villain, but to people who maybe would

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00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: hater Lebron James or Hayda, Lewis is a hero. Is

817
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: the guy who's looking to knock him off of that

818
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: number one spot is now maybe finally being thought of

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Speaker 3: as the greatest in his respective sport. For me, it's

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. He's the only guy that vis really meaningfully

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Speaker 3: challenges the other one for the title of greatest today.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. And you know, earlier on this

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Speaker 1: year on the podcast somehow Skeets and I got talking

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Speaker 1: to do you think do you think Kevin Durant knows

825
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: who Max Verstappin is? Just does he? Is he aware

826
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Speaker 1: of who he is as a person? My vote was

827
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Speaker 1: for yes. Katie is always about the Zeitkist to me,

828
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Speaker 1: he would have to know a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: Drive to Survive series, and as a competitor, I'm sure

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00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: he's interested in other sports around the world. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is I think this is a pretty solid one too.

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Speaker 1: Kad as Max vers staff And you're seeing some Luka

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Speaker 1: Doncic love as Max Verstaffen here, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably fair too, that Max is probably a little further

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Speaker 1: along in his career than Doncic's. Right now, let's move

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Speaker 1: on Lando Norris. Who's his comparison?

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Speaker 2: Lando love this one? So what are we talking about here?

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Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy with an electrifying style that

839
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Speaker 3: that fans love. You're talking about a baby faced assassin.

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00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy that is pushing his team

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Speaker 3: to great heights, perhaps faster than anybody thought they would.

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00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: For me, Lando is easily Devin Booker, who I think

843
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: has who I think.

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Speaker 2: People love to watch.

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Speaker 3: He's easy to root for, he's likable, he's got, you know,

846
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: the young the young looks. But he's taken the team

847
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: all the way to the finals pretty early in his career.

848
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Speaker 3: I think that that's similar to what Lando was doing

849
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Speaker 3: out there on the track today.

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Speaker 1: That's a great call. I did not expect a Devin Booker,

851
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: and I think it works even better because didn't. Uh

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00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: didn't McLaren put like a Phoenix Sun's logo on their

853
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: car for one of these races during the finals.

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00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: Did I hadn't even thought about it, or I hadn't

855
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: even thought about that.

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00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: That's pretty good man. I was thinking maybe Trey Young

857
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: And honestly, once you started describing it, I was like, huh,

858
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm gonna go three for three on days,

859
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: But curve ball with Booker, that's really good. Moving on,

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00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: Valerie Botas, who is his NBA comparison?

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00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: Okay, so VALCHERI, what are you talking about here, You're

862
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: talking about a second fiddle, but a guy who is

863
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: supremely talented, who really is terrific at what he does,

864
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: but has faltered at some really big moments and has

865
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: been overshadowed because he plays alongside a guy that's actually

866
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: won titles. For me, this guy is, and lastly, a

867
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: guy who, despite being great and despite playing on a

868
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: great team, can be a little chippy with the media

869
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: from time to time.

870
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: I think he's Paul George Oh.

871
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: I think he's not the best player on his team

872
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: despite being really great. But you know, when he's at

873
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: the highest stage, sometimes he doesn't make it happen.

874
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty fair comparison. I thought it

875
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: was a little disappointing this year that we didn't even

876
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: get the fake buzz of Ken Botos challenge Hamilton for

877
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the title, Like that wasn't even part of the discussion.

878
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: This year was one hundred percent focused on Lewis and Max.

879
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Do you think that Botos is gonna be done at

880
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Mercedes after this year?

881
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: I do think he's going to be done at Mercedes

882
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: after this year. I think I would.

883
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: I'm ninety percent confident Russell takes the seat. In fact,

884
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see is Botos even.

885
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: Gonna hang around in F one?

886
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: Is a back marker team gonna want him or are

887
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: they gonna want to take a bet on a younger

888
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: talent that they think they can you know, build into

889
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: over the coming years.

890
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is Botos's rep around Formula One? He started

891
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: with Williams, if I'm not mistaken. He's been at Mercedes

892
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: now for a while and there were a couple of

893
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: years where at least he was pushing Hamilton a little bit,

894
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: but this season and last season he's really seemed to

895
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: fall off.

896
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: I think he is a terrific talent. He was a

897
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: great driver with Williams and when Mark brought him on,

898
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 3: they were super excited. And for the first few years

899
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: he was the perfect pairing because he was happy to

900
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: be a second driver to Lewis, where prior to having

901
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: him on there, Nico Rosberg and Lewis had an incredibly

902
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: tense relationship and the sort of animosity there was something

903
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: that Mercedes.

904
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: Was really looking to avoid.

905
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: But Botos has floundered as he's gotten more and more

906
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: frustrated with being the second fiddle, with having to you know,

907
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: obey team orders let Hamilton through. There's you know, he's

908
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: done it this year, but there's a few instances in

909
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: the past where Botos was almost sure to win a

910
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: race and in fact had to let Hamilton through incredibly

911
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: controversial team orders to come.

912
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: Down from Toto Wolf and the rest of the team there.

913
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: So I think that as as that started.

914
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: To come to like he's it's I think it's just

915
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: kind of caused his career to you know, I don't

916
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: know sour a little bit and I think he's sputtering

917
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: to an end.

918
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: I see some people in the Slipstream team are saying

919
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: that Lewis Hamilton would prefer for Botas to stick around

920
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Mercedes because he's clearly the number one as long as

921
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: Botos is there, whereas if Russell comes over, you know,

922
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: he has the relationship with Toto Wolf and Russell's tabbed

923
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: to be one of the next big drivers in Formula

924
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: One as well. Do you think Lewis Hamilton cares at

925
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: all who's the second driver at Mercedes. Oh?

926
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: I think he absolutely cares, and I think the Slipstream

927
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: team is one hundred percent correct.

928
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: In fact, that's probably.

929
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: The biggest thing that Botos has going for him is

930
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 3: that Hamilton is going him to be a huge advocate

931
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: because the boat. You know that that Hamilton is going

932
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: to be a huge avity keeping him because I think

933
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: that he doesn't want the challenge that Russell's gonna pose

934
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: is gonna come and he's gonna be very aggressive. He's

935
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: gonna intend to make his career. He's the guy that

936
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Mercedes is going to see as the future of the team.

937
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: And I think you it's not going to be as

938
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: extreme as what you saw with Betel and Leclair because

939
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: Bettel was probably you know, further past his peak than

940
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: Hamilton is. But I think that, you know, old guard,

941
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: young gun tension would absolutely be there whereas Hamilton is

942
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: you know, clearly undisputably the number one guy.

943
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: As long as Botos is still there, that's great.

944
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: I love it. All Right, Let's move on. Who is

945
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: an NBA comparison for Daniel Ricardo?

946
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: Ooh I uh okay, so this is this is a

947
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: good one.

948
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: So who are we talking about here? We're talking about

949
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: a fan favorite with a big personality. We're talking about

950
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 3: a guy with a super aggressive style that reached great

951
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: heights earlier in his career, but more recently has bounced

952
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: around from team to team and hasn't been able to

953
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 3: recreate the magic that he maybe had earlier on when

954
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: he was teamed up with some really exceptional young talent.

955
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: You're talking about for me, with the last of the

956
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: late Breakers, you're talking about the fastest.

957
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: Of the fast breakers. You're talking about Russell Westbrook.

958
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Interesting, Interesting, and Westbrook, I guess I would say that

959
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Ricardo is a little bit more beloved than Westbrook is.

960
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: Westbrook is a polarizing guy, and you know, everybody loves Ricardo.

961
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: But that's not bad, I don't, you know. Like I said,

962
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: I hopped in season one Drive to Survive and at

963
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: that point they were talking about Max Verstaff and perhaps

964
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: becoming the youngest world champion ever, but they still wanted

965
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Ricardo to be able to do something and you know,

966
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: be a successful driver as well. And it seems to

967
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: me like he's he's the guy that they've said has

968
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: the championship pedigree the entire time. He's got the incredible nickname,

969
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: the best nickname on the grid, no doubt about it,

970
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: and the last of the late Breakers, but just hasn't

971
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: been able to put it together. So from that perspective,

972
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: I definitely see the Westbrook comparison.

973
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 3: And I think for you know, for people who were

974
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: probably a little bit newer fans have come in the

975
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: driver Survive era, you know, they kind of missed what

976
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: was Ricardo's you know, heyday, which was you know, over

977
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: those years that he was with Red Bull, he won

978
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: seven races. He had a number of other races in

979
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: which he was incredibly competitive. His win at Monaco in

980
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, I think he is one of the great

981
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: Monico wins because his car was faltering and he actually

982
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: wasn't able to get into his top gear and he

983
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: managed to maintain the lead. Nonetheless, it looked like it

984
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: might be another heartbreaking loss after a few seasons prior

985
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: where he had lost in a similarly kind of upsetting

986
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: circumstances in Monaco as well. So I think, you know,

987
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: he he clearly is capable of getting himself up on

988
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: the top step when he's in the right car, but

989
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 3: he's not capitalizing on his opportunity this year or over

990
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: the last few seasons for that matter.

991
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: And just like Wesbrook, he has been bouncing around a lot.

992
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: Is that just the way of f one? You're on

993
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: top of the world and then suddenly there's a younger

994
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: driver who's going to be faster than you, and you

995
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: start feeling the pressure, like that happened with Vetel and Leclair,

996
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Like you're saying that happened with Ricardo and Verstappen, and

997
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: maybe it could maybe it could happen with Hamilton and

998
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: Russell as well.

999
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: I think the thing that we forget about F one

1000
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: or forget but maybe what is such a huge gap

1001
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: between other sports that Americans watch a lot of is

1002
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: there are only twenty spots in this entire sport. There

1003
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: are there's fifteen guys on an NBA team. This is

1004
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: basically like one NBA team's worth of positions, especially when

1005
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: you limit.

1006
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: It to just the top teams that are actually contending.

1007
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: So it is incredibly competitive, you know, and I think

1008
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: that there is always and these teams, you know they're

1009
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: they're only going to be so sentimental about holding onto

1010
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: a guy who's been there for a long time, especially

1011
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of cash associated with every position.

1012
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: You know, in the standings, you know up that they finished,

1013
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: so you know they're gonna be aggressive. It's hard to

1014
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: you know, let and you see a lot of turnover,

1015
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: especially given this incredibly talented young generation of guys, They're

1016
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: going to put a lot of pressure.

1017
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: On the old guard here pretty soon.

1018
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: Has not always been the case that there are great,

1019
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, twenty to twenty four year old drivers, because

1020
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: that's the thing. To me. I'm always like, man, they're

1021
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: doing Vettel dirty. You know, what's Leclaire ever done? That

1022
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: guy hasn't he did one season at Alpha Romeo, whereas

1023
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: this guy's a world champion. They're just get rid of them.

1024
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: But like, it's the right move. I know I was.

1025
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: I was more happy to drive fast when I was

1026
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: twenty than when I'm thirty seven. You know, I would.

1027
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: Actually say that it's actually maybe the opposite. Well, it's

1028
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: I would not say this is standard. I say it's

1029
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: a little bit new that that. Over the years, the

1030
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, F one is getting younger and younger and

1031
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: younger in terms of the age of the drivers. It's

1032
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: why you see and create you know, we're consistently breaking

1033
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: the youngest driver to win a championship, youngest driver to

1034
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: win a race. That most of those records have been

1035
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: set in the last ten or so years, whether they

1036
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: were by vettal or Verstaffn or whomever you know. So

1037
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: I think that that's it's it's if you actually go

1038
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 3: back to the very beginning of one.

1039
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: You know, guys were much older.

1040
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: Guys were even in their thirties when they were first

1041
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: getting a drive. Now that's a ways back in the

1042
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: fifties or sixties, but I think that you know, you're

1043
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: seeing a lot of young guys get a shot because

1044
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: they're eager to get the new talent in and prove

1045
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: whether they really got it. At the same time, though,

1046
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: which really interesting, is you're seeing the old guard hang

1047
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: on Hamilton Reichen in Alonso Vettle. These guys are really

1048
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: deep into their career and they're still holding on with

1049
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 3: drives and some of them competing at a very very

1050
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: high level, with Hamilton in particular, so it's kind of

1051
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: actually splitting in both extremes.

1052
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want to be in the middle. It

1053
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: sounds like I know that drivers at least look a

1054
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: lot younger than they did because I was watching something

1055
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: about like the closest rate or closest championship races in

1056
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: F one history, determined by points, and like they showed

1057
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: Nigel Mansel with his helmet off. I was like they

1058
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: were letting a fifty year old man drive a Formula

1059
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: one car around that. It seems a little bit unsafe

1060
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: to me, but you know, speaking of older gentlemen. Moving

1061
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: on to our next comparison, who is your NBA comparison

1062
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: for Fernando Alonso?

1063
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, so what are we talking about here.

1064
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: We're talking about a veteran guy who has got a

1065
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: ton of savvy, borderline tricky, some might even say dirty,

1066
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: but a guy who is nonetheless respected, will be respected

1067
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: as one of the all time greats, certainly as a

1068
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: great defender.

1069
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: As we just saw the other day in Budapest. He's

1070
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: gonna be one of the all time greats.

1071
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: Despite the fact that he didn't win nearly as many

1072
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: titles as some people thought he might at the beginning

1073
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: of his career.

1074
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: I think he's CEEP three.

1075
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: It's true interesting. I actually really like that because Chris

1076
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: Paul has not been my favorite basketball player over the

1077
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: course of his career. And the things that rubbed me

1078
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: the wrong way about Chris Paul are like his controlling

1079
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: nature and the way he goes about things that displease

1080
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: him and Season one of Drive to survive. I like

1081
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: anytime they showed Alonzo, I was like, this guy is

1082
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: complaining again, Like it just seemed like nothing was ever

1083
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: his fault. But like you're saying, I missed the peak

1084
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: of Fernando Alonzo when he was one of the best

1085
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: drivers in the world, and now seeing him come back

1086
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: from a couple of years away and seeing like that

1087
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: battle with Hamilton just recently, you gotta put some respect

1088
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: on the guy's name, just like Chris Paul taking a

1089
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: team to the finals.

1090
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: But you're Hunterson right.

1091
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: He is a fame famously difficult teammate, which I think

1092
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: is another thing that makes him like Chris Paul.

1093
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of.

1094
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: People Okun claims to love driving with him, but there

1095
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: are a lot of guys that have not not shared

1096
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: that sentiment.

1097
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: Well, OCN should love it. He got a win and

1098
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: got his first career win thanks to Fernando Alonso playing

1099
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: that defense. A lot of people were saying, maybe Fernando

1100
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 1: Alonso was gonna be either Kawhi Leonard or Lou Dort

1101
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: for the way he shut down Hamilton for a while there.

1102
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: But moving on, who's your George Russell comparison? He's come

1103
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: up a few times so far on the Podcas asked.

1104
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: So for me, and and this his name has already,

1105
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: uh you know, been mentioned by some of y'all listening

1106
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: for me. If you're looking at George, you're talking about

1107
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 3: a guy who's a supreme talent, who's gonna define the

1108
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: sport over the next decade.

1109
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: A person who dominated.

1110
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: In you know, the earlier in his career before he

1111
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: came up to the big leagues, but has struggled to

1112
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: realize his potential so far because he hasn't been surrounded

1113
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: by the pieces he needs to really compete for a title.

1114
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: For me, George Russell is Luca. Oh, okay, this is

1115
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: I think.

1116
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: I think he'll be what Luca and him. I think

1117
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: their their their greatness will coincide. In fact, I think

1118
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: we'll probably see the two of them win titles when

1119
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: MVPs compete at a very high level at similar times

1120
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: in their lives.

1121
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: Well, I guess if you're a Maverick span you're then

1122
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: rooting for George Russell to stay with Williams, because if

1123
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: he joined uh Mercedes, that'd be like hooking up with

1124
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: Lebron there on the Lakers. Nobody would like that, would

1125
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: that be. Would people look down upon that? If George

1126
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: Russell goes to Mercedes? Is that a thing? Do people

1127
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: worry about building a super team in Formula One? It's

1128
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: just two drivers?

1129
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: No, I don't think anybody. I don't think it's the

1130
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: same culture around it.

1131
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 3: Because the car is so critical to your ability to compete.

1132
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: Nobody blames a driver for trying to put themselves in

1133
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 3: the best car. I just think it's like, you've got

1134
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 3: the car has to be capable. Put Lewis Hamilton in

1135
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: a Haas and he's not scoring points, It doesn't matter.

1136
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: Right, What a challenge, What a change that would be?

1137
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's I think it's so nobody blames him

1138
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: for being I'm going to go and put myself in

1139
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: a position to win.

1140
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: All right.

1141
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: I think that's a good one. We got a few

1142
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: more left here, let's get to him. Why not? We're

1143
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: having fun. Who is your NBA comparison for Sebastian Vettel?

1144
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: I wrote down Chris Paul, So I know that's not

1145
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: going to be the answer.

1146
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 3: Oh see for me here, Okay, you know what this is.

1147
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: This is another tricky one. Vettel is probably more achieved

1148
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: than the guy I'm about to say, but you're talking

1149
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: about a guy who's at the end of his career,

1150
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: is kind of bouncing around, has chilled out a little bit,

1151
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: but is hoping for just a little bit more of

1152
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: late career glory. But for me, the biggest thing about

1153
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: it is Vettel has become kind of the godfather to

1154
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 3: f one. He's the guy that all the other drivers love,

1155
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 3: that the young drivers look to for guidance, that they

1156
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: look to as almost a father figure. For me, that

1157
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: makes them a lot like Carmelo Anthony, who is who

1158
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: is so respected by the other players in the league.

1159
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: I think in the same way that Bettal is.

1160
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: I think that's really good. And surely Melo would love

1161
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: to have four titles just like Metal does.

1162
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: That's where I think the comparison falls apart. Yeah, Bettal was,

1163
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, is going to go down as you know,

1164
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: one of the greats with four straight titles. Mello never

1165
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 3: did anything quite like that. Maybe we'll count his Olympic

1166
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: titles and say that, you know.

1167
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair, Yeah, that's definitely fair. I

1168
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: don't know much. I don't understand how red Bull came

1169
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: into the sport and instantly won a bunch of titles.

1170
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: My guess is they just paid a whole bunch of

1171
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: money to make their car the best.

1172
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 3: Money and success have a correlations.

1173
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: They are they are there is that? Yeah for sure? Well?

1174
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: Plus, I mean energy drinks were at an all time

1175
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: high when Red Bull really got into Formula one. Racy,

1176
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's a coincidence. Moving on, got

1177
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: a couple of more comparisons left. Who is Carlos Signs

1178
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: in the NBA?

1179
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So what we've got here is a guy

1180
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: who's really terrific but is undoubtedly the second best on

1181
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: his team, but you know he can reach great heights.

1182
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: But he's also the son of royalty of his sport.

1183
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: He comes from a lineage of championships. His father won

1184
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: multiple titles in his respective sport. For me, Carlos is

1185
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson lay alongside you know, you know a guy

1186
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 3: who's thought of as gonna be one of the greats

1187
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: of his era, and his dad, you know, won a

1188
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: couple NBA titles. Carlos Signs Senior is a multiple time

1189
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: World rally Car champion, So he's you know, he comes

1190
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: from a great lineage that I think He's a Clay guy.

1191
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: That's perfect. Man. I had Mike Miller down just because

1192
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: he seems like a well liked guy. But Klay Thompson

1193
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: is like, like beloved around the NBA. Nobody has a

1194
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: bad thing to say about Clay and he fits in

1195
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: perfectly being a second generation player, being a second generation driver,

1196
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: and like you're saying, you know what you're getting from play.

1197
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna shoot the ball every single time he's open.

1198
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna shoot it. Even when he's not open. He's

1199
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna make him. But Steph Curry still the number one

1200
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: guy there, just like Leclaire is for Ferrari. That's a

1201
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: great one. Our final comparison, Mick Schumacher, who is the

1202
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: NBA is Mick Schumacher.

1203
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going a little bit off script here because

1204
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna make a comparison that's not to a

1205
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: guy who's not yet an NBA player.

1206
00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: But what are we talking about.

1207
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 3: We're talking about the sun of an all time great,

1208
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: arguably the greatest of all time, a guy who we

1209
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: don't really know how great he's going to be, but

1210
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 3: there's flashes of brilliance and everybody is really excited to

1211
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: see how his career evolves, and it would be so

1212
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: cool for him to reach the top of the sport.

1213
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: For me, he's a little Brownie James.

1214
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, that's what I had on my list too.

1215
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: That's what's gotta be like Mick Schumacher. I was like,

1216
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if this guy's got to be good,

1217
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: but I know who his dad is and he won

1218
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: a championship at the lower levels. I don't think you

1219
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: can pick anybody else for Mick Schumacher. Is he going

1220
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: to be good? Do you think? Is it's just a

1221
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: matter you got to take your LExEN has for a

1222
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: little bit.

1223
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's pretty good.

1224
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: I actually think he's doing well in the car, which

1225
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: is incredibly limited. I think he actually drove really well

1226
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: in Hungary. I think he had a great race. You know,

1227
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: it's a rookie season is tough, but I think he's

1228
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: evolving quickly.

1229
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm pretty bullish on him.

1230
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: Is he as great as some of the other young

1231
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 3: talent Leclair Versus stap In, Norris Russell. I mean there's

1232
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: a this His generation is a real murderers row, so

1233
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 3: it's going to be competitive. But I think he's got

1234
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 3: the chops to hang in the sport for a long time.

1235
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: Is he a guy that Ferrari would be interested somewhere

1236
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: down the line, or is it more like they have

1237
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: their pick of the litter?

1238
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Really?

1239
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I assure you Ferrari is interested if he if

1240
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 3: he excels and does well. You know, the Schumachers are

1241
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: so beloved inside the Ferrari organization. You know, Michael is

1242
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: a legend there, and he's still very although he's mostly

1243
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: out of the sport now, you know, he's still you know,

1244
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: beloved by top brass over there, and and Mick, you know,

1245
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: has been part of the Ferrari Young Driver program. I

1246
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: assure you that if he excels and reaches his potential,

1247
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: that they'll seriously consider him as a guy to bring

1248
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 3: to the top team.

1249
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: Incredible stuff, Graydon, Those are your f one driver NBA comparisons.

1250
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: I've got one last one to make that I've seen

1251
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: this lipstream team a few times. JD is total wolf

1252
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: the way he's just hold down for us in the background,

1253
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: making things actually happen out here, and making all the

1254
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: right calls for us. And speaking of the right calls,

1255
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: we got to take one more break when we're back

1256
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: a little preview for the second half of the season. Well, Graydon,

1257
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: I finally exceeded track limits, completely botched it. We had

1258
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: ten names lined up and if you were paying close attention,

1259
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: you may have noticed I only asked nine names. Really quickly.

1260
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: Hit me with your Charyl Leclair NBA comparison.

1261
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 3: Well, he is my favorite after all, And I think

1262
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: with Charyl Leclair, you're talking about a guy who is

1263
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: the most storied team in the sport, is pinning their

1264
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: hopes and dreams to the man. He's thought of as

1265
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: a complete driver and a complete player. His NBA comparison,

1266
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: he but are they actually contenders?

1267
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: You know, they wish.

1268
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: They were, but they're not there yet. For me, he's

1269
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, who.

1270
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: Interesting one of the youngest guys out there, if I'm

1271
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: not mistaken as well, So that's a great comparison as well.

1272
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: And a hollowed team Ferrari, the Boston Celtics. And like

1273
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: you're saying, the hopes and dreams are alongside or on

1274
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: the shoulders of Jason Tatum, it almost makes me wish

1275
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: that you had picked Carlos Signs as Jalen Brown. You know,

1276
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: another number two They're not something that could work in

1277
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: the future as well, but great stuff. Sorry, I completely

1278
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: botched it, man. I feel like we were at the

1279
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: Monaco Grand Prix and I was the guy trying to

1280
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: take the right wheel off of Valtrie Botas's car and

1281
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. Just smashing that thing on

1282
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: again and again and again. A bit of a bummer,

1283
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: but at least we got it in there. We got

1284
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: the second half of the F one season starting this weekend.

1285
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Currently another eleven races on the schedule, potential twelfth to

1286
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: be added later in the season, and F one is

1287
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: coming back hot. Got a triple header on deck, starting

1288
01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: with the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa this weekend, practice Friday, qualifying, Setaturday,

1289
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: race on Sunday, the twenty twenty Podium Hamilton Botas Verstappen Classic.

1290
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: Greaton what's special about Spat?

1291
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: Spat is genuinely my favorite race of the year. It

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Speaker 3: is so beautiful to see them racing through the Arden

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01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: forest in Belgium. It's one of the most spectacular to

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01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: watch on TV and I'm sure would be incredible to watch,

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01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: you know, in person. It's an incredibly fast course, a

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Speaker 3: bit like Silverstone or Austria in that way. So the

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Speaker 3: guys who did well there you might suspect would do

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: well here. It's the longest track of the season, but

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Speaker 3: it also it just has so many magical moments that

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01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: are so you know, these so many hollowed corners, special

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01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: parts of it, especially the first sector les Source a

1302
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 3: Rouge Radion and onto the Chemmel Strait that is one

1303
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Speaker 3: of the great sections of any.

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Speaker 2: F one track on the calendar. So this, this for me,

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Speaker 2: is my favorite weekend of the year. I'm very excited.

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01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: Well, just like we say with every episode of Survivors,

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01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: sounds like a great time to get in this weekend.

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: Who does the track favor? You say, it's a fast one,

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: but also a long one, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's historically it's you know, before Ferrari kind

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Speaker 3: of you know, had their struggles. They were always great here,

1312
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: they had great engine power. But I think you know, listen,

1313
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 3: who who was really going to contend to win at

1314
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: this track.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be Max and Lewis.

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: I think their cars are clearly the fastest here, you know,

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01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 3: especially over time. I think Ferrari can do well here,

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 3: as we've shown them to been able to improve on

1319
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 3: their race pace over the season, you know, and we

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01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: saw them perform very well at Silverstone, which I think

1321
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: is a track that has you know, some similarities to this,

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 3: you know, I think other you know who it's it's

1323
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: it's but again it's it's tough to say. There's always

1324
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, so much craziness that can you know through

1325
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: a race, you know, make it haywire. That being said,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of passing opportunities here, especially on the

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01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: Chemil Straight, which I believe is the longest straight of

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01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: the year. So you know, if you're talking about the

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01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: cars with the pure pace are the ones that are

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Speaker 3: probably going to end up at the top.

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01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: All right, tell me if this is true from Nebraska

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: Jones who says SPA has two of the top eight

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01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: corners in F one.

1334
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: Is he I mean, he's gotta be.

1335
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: He's probably referring to O Rouge and either the Source

1336
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 3: or Raty on which I completely agree for me.

1337
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: O Rouge.

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Speaker 3: That moment is they go up that hill and they

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01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: kind of sweep left and then sweep right.

1340
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: You see it. It's an iconic shot.

1341
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 3: Is I think one of my favorite moments in F

1342
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: one all season long, so not wrong.

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Speaker 1: That is, that's the next level. Liking cars level one,

1344
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: learning about tires level two, having favorite corners as level three.

1345
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: Next time we do this podcast, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1346
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: break down my favorite corners for you, Graydon from SPA.

1347
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: We go to the Dutch Grand Prix at Circuit zon

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: Fort for the first time since nineteen eighty five. The

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: only question I have for you, Grayden, do you know

1350
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: who was on the podium at the Dutch Grand Prix

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01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,439
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five?

1352
01:04:59,720 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: Wow?

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I don't, I don't. Should I take a

1354
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 3: wild stab as yes.

1355
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: If you guess the top three names from the nineteen

1356
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: eighties Formula one driving you will probably get it.

1357
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: If I guess the top three names from the nineteen eighties,

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01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 3: I'll probably get it.

1359
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: So what Nigel Mansel?

1360
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: Maybe the next three names?

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01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: Allan Allen is out? Is that too young early for

1362
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: Alan Prost to be on the finished? Second cross? Us

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: is there?

1364
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: It's it's probably it's probably a little too early for

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01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: Senna to be there.

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01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: No, it's not too early. He's on the podium there. Third, okay, wow?

1367
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: And then who would be first at this time? Niki Lauda.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

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01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Once I saw that, I was like, I can

1370
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,959
Speaker 1: ask this question. I know these three names, I've seen

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01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: these movies. I don't know anything about this track to you.

1372
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: I know it's uh, it's it's one of the slower

1373
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: tracks I believe in the in the circuit, it's it's

1374
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: it's got a So it's going to be more similar

1375
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 3: to probably like an Abu Dhabi or Singapore, I think,

1376
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 3: or no, actually Singapore might be.

1377
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: Not a good comparison.

1378
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, I think you're not necessarily going to see

1379
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 3: the you know, the top speeds that you see at

1380
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: Silverstone or Spa. But other than that, you know, I

1381
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: mean the last time they raced here, I was one

1382
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 3: years old.

1383
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: So I great times, great time, remember the race.

1384
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: I assume there will be a giant verse snap in

1385
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: the fan section. There are a lot of so I'm

1386
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: looking forward to that final leg of our triple header,

1387
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: the Italian Grand Prix at Monza. That was a crazy

1388
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: one last year. Pierre Gosley first win of his career,

1389
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: ended up on the podium with Carlos Signs and Lance Stroll.

1390
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: There's that great shot of them on the podium up

1391
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: above the empty crowd and nobody was there. Kind of

1392
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: a mummer they didn't have anybody to celebrate with, but

1393
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: some incredible shots. We got other notable dates on the

1394
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: back half of the schedule here as well. Green in

1395
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: the United States Grand Prix at the Circuit of the

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 1: America is down in Texas, October twenty fourth. Like you said,

1397
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: we're getting a second Grand Prix here in the States

1398
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: next season, but's the only one right now. Laura's dad

1399
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: and brother went to the NASCAR Grand Prix at the

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01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: Circuit of the America's down there. Said it was awesome.

1401
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: I think Chase Elliott won in a rainow. My question

1402
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: for you, what are we going to one of these

1403
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: US Grand Prix?

1404
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm down to go anytime.

1405
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: That is the only Grand Prix I've been to live

1406
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: is the US Grand Prix. I went in twenty eighteen.

1407
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: I actually saw Kimmy Reichen in when they're the last race.

1408
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: He won the last race he'll probably.

1409
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: Ever win, and I thought it was incredible. I had wondered,

1410
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: is this going to be as exciting as it is

1411
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: on TV? If you can't ball the guys as much,

1412
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: maybe you've got a little bit less information, but at

1413
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: the end of the day watching them so close, he

1414
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: passed my lap after lap inch.

1415
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: Closer to one another.

1416
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: When you see one of those kind of long overtakes

1417
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 3: that takes ten laps to evolve as somebody chases someone down,

1418
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: it's so cool to see live. The crowd is totally electric.

1419
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 3: It's a really fun space. I would huge wreck. If

1420
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: you are into F one, whether you've been into a

1421
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: long time or just now getting into it, go to

1422
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: the race in Austin.

1423
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: It's a great time.

1424
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: Is it a full weekend thing? Are you there for

1425
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: practice and qualifying or the race or are you just

1426
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: a race man?

1427
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: I would do qualifying in the race practice.

1428
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 4: If you are a huge that's I.

1429
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: Think that's like practice is a bit much. It's not

1430
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: that exciting, all right.

1431
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: Also on the schedule the Salpolo Grand Prix at end

1432
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: of her lago, so I know that one's a little

1433
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 1: bit up in the air. We had some good Lewis

1434
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: Hamilton drama in the past there with Alex alban I

1435
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: think the championship could still be up for grabs at

1436
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: that point. And we end things with a double header

1437
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix December fifth, the Abu Dhabi

1438
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: Grand Prix December twelfth. This is a long season. But

1439
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: the good thing with this year, I think is that

1440
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: sometimes when you get to these last couple of races,

1441
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 1: they do not matter at all, right, like the championship

1442
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: has been decided and we're just racing out the string.

1443
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: Do you think these ones are gonna count this year?

1444
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: It feels like it.

1445
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel to me like we're gonna be somebody

1446
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 3: is gonna be thirty fifty. However, many points clear like

1447
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: we've had in the past seasons where they wrapped it up.

1448
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: I think we've had Hamilton wrap it up in.

1449
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: Recent years in Brazil, in Mexico, maybe some other places,

1450
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 3: you know, So it's definitely there. I don't see it happening.

1451
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: It's just too close, it's too tight. I don't think

1452
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 3: anybody is gonna give an inch right up to the end.

1453
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: I think at the very least, you might still see

1454
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: people even if the driver's title is wrapped up, you'll

1455
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: still see them competing for the constructor's title, which I

1456
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 3: think is going to be very tight as well. So

1457
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot to race for

1458
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 3: all the way up to Abu Dhabi.

1459
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: Sounds like we might need to run this podcast back

1460
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: the week after Thanksgiving, but that's for the future. Now

1461
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: it's time for predictions. Can't let you leave without getting

1462
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: some skin in the game, Dan Graydon, Who wins the

1463
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: drivers Championship? Who wins the Constructors Championship?

1464
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: For the Driver's Championship, I'm gonna go with Max Verstappan.

1465
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: I think he's been the better driver to date this year.

1466
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: I think he would clearly be in the lead if

1467
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: it weren't for a few very prominent DNFs. I think

1468
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 3: that he has what it takes to put it together

1469
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 3: and take the title away from Mercedes.

1470
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: It won't be easy.

1471
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 3: It's going to be the fight of his life, clearly

1472
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 3: the toughest thing he's ever done out on the track.

1473
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: But I think he's got what it takes.

1474
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: I think he has the talent needed to beat him.

1475
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: So does that mean you think that Red Bull would

1476
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: therefore win constructors as well?

1477
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: I actually don't.

1478
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 3: I actually think that Mercedes hangs onto the Constructors Championship.

1479
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: I think that they have that. Sergio, while he's growing

1480
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 3: into the car and performing better, is just not as

1481
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: comfortable with the car as Botos is behind the wheel

1482
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 3: of the Mercedes. I think Botos has a lot to

1483
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: drive for trying to save his seat, trying to save

1484
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: you know, his place in F one.

1485
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: In general, I think that Bell both.

1486
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 3: I think that your Botos will put it on the

1487
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: podium enough times that Mercedes actually will win the constructors title,

1488
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 3: but will have a split championship this year.

1489
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: What happens when they have a split championship? Are you

1490
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: even happy? Like?

1491
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 3: Uh?

1492
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Max would be happy he's the champion. Happy Lewis,

1493
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: I have to imagine, would be disappointed.

1494
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: It happens from time to time.

1495
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it hasn't happened in recent years

1496
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 3: because Mercedes has been so dominant and then before that,

1497
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: Red Bull and Bettle were so dominant. But it actually

1498
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: does happen, you know, historically, there's plenty of examples of it.

1499
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 3: We're just modern F one fans aren't that used to it.

1500
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: Well, we got to pull up on our YouTube page

1501
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: where you can go and vote. We asked who will

1502
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,879
Speaker 1: win the twenty twenty one drivers Championship. Fifty one percent

1503
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: say Lewis Hamilton, forty nine percent for Max Verstappen. I mean,

1504
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: that's as close as the real races are. I'm throwing

1505
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 1: my hat in with Hamilton. You gotta beat him. Let's

1506
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: see somebody do it. How about third place, though, Graydon,

1507
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: we're talking let's talk constructors here, because more than likely

1508
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,919
Speaker 1: it'll either be another Red Bull driver or another Mercedes

1509
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: driver who's third in drivers. But what about for the

1510
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: constructors Championship? You think Ferrari's gonna be able to pull this.

1511
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: Off for the constructors.

1512
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: I think, actually Ferrari does pull it off because I

1513
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 3: think that Leclair to date is underachieving and actually can

1514
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: step up his game. I think he's going to get

1515
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 3: on more podiums. I think it's even possible that he'll

1516
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 3: take a win before the end of the season. Meanwhile,

1517
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 3: Lando is basically driving perfectly, and if he continues to

1518
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 3: drive perfectly, they'll be very competitive. But I just wonder,

1519
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 3: you know, is it I think it's possible it's only

1520
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 3: a DNF here there for Lando, even for faults on

1521
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 3: his own, suddenly they slip back. So I think for me,

1522
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: I think that Ferrari probably ekes it out, but that

1523
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 3: is going to be razor thin. I think that is

1524
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: going to be also very fun to watch up until

1525
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 3: the very last race, as I try believe that won't

1526
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: be decided until abbi dab.

1527
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: That'll be awesome. Do you think Lando can stick in third?

1528
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: Do you think he has a chance.

1529
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: I think he has a chance for sure.

1530
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 3: I mean to be honest, he probably has been the

1531
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 3: best this season of anybody out there.

1532
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: He's just not in the best car. You know, he's

1533
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: been incredible.

1534
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 3: I think that botas you know, the Mark is a

1535
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: meaningfully better car, and Botos, despite his flaws. You know,

1536
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 3: if he just you know, steadies his hand a little bit,

1537
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 3: can take back third. I think pretty easily. In fact,

1538
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: I probably expect that. That's why I'm picking Murk to

1539
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: win the Constructors title. But it's not going to be easy.

1540
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: And if Lando can, you know, can can keep it up.

1541
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: There's no reason he can't.

1542
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they have this saying in F one,

1543
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: but they should take this from basketball. You can't teach hype.

1544
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: You can't teach cars. So even if you're in a MRK,

1545
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: you got a chance because you're going fast. Last question

1546
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: I need answered, graydon give me a bold prediction for

1547
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 1: the second half of the season.

1548
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: Okay, my I thought a lot about this.

1549
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 3: I thought, is Lando wins a race, is at Leclair

1550
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 3: wins race, so that those aren't bold enough. I think

1551
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 3: nobody would actually be that surprised to see that at

1552
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 3: this point. For me, my bold take, and I think

1553
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: I alluded to it earlier.

1554
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: This season is.

1555
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: Despite Botos coming in third, despite Botos helping Mercedes win

1556
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: yet another Constructor's title, this is his last year in

1557
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: F one.

1558
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: I do not think he has a drive next year.

1559
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 3: I think he leaves even somewhat willingly, but I don't

1560
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 3: think he's done driving. I think he's going to take

1561
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: up rally racing. He loves to rally race in the offseason.

1562
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see him in a different

1563
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: motorsport next year.

1564
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: But Botos will not be a part of F one

1565
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.

1566
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: I actually think that's really cool when the whether my

1567
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: choice or by not having a seat, driver leaves Formula

1568
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: one and catches on somewhere else and gets the show.

1569
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: They're skilled in a different kind of car, like we've

1570
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: seen Grojan do that Alonzo did as well. Rally driving

1571
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: seems pretty different, though.

1572
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1573
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 3: It is very different and I don't know that it's

1574
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: you know that the skills translate that immediately, but he

1575
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 3: loves it, and certainly the finish. He's from Finland. The

1576
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 3: finish are one of the great rally driving cultures. Is

1577
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: something that I think he's loved for a very long

1578
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: time and enjoys participating in, and he thinks, in fact,

1579
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 3: has made him a better F one driver his experience

1580
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: in rally.

1581
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised to see him go give

1582
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: it a shot.

1583
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: Well, my stupid, bold prediction was that Lando's gonna win

1584
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: a race. Nobody would be surprised by that.

1585
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: Man.

1586
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: Sorry, this guy.

1587
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: Gosh, gosh, I he's in third, he's in third. I

1588
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: you know, you got to think that he's right there.

1589
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been killing it. Three podiums this year, the

1590
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: most after Hamilton ver stopping in Botas. He had fifteen

1591
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: straight finishes in the points before Hungary. He's been finishing

1592
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: in the top five. He just needs a little of

1593
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: luck to end up atop the podium. It's gonna happen

1594
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: this year. Gonna happen. That'll do it. For the inaugural

1595
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1596
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