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Speaker 3: I think you're a pussy. I stood up and danced.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm just clear the air and like and

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to assume good faith here and think that

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Speaker 1: I have seen you and movies. I am a fan.

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Speaker 2: And I'm coming totally neutral place you use tape, because

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Speaker 2: But I obviously I have an affection for Hayes. He's

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Speaker 1: The mustache and like, and we can do this right

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Speaker 1: It goes without saying I do have another podcasts. Well,

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Speaker 1: Some people can. Some actors can go both ways, right,

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, And then they can at least it's all

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Speaker 3: At that point, Well, you're right about one thing. It's

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Speaker 1: I like you?

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Speaker 2: Is that interesting?

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Speaker 1: That's good?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna bias become a studio? Yeah, not buy it,

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Speaker 2: You'd be hard pressed to find someone Mickey. And this

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Speaker 1: And real quick. Yeah, what are you thinking about? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, she's fucking Goofy.

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Speaker 1: So you mean that she is She's fucking she's fucking

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Speaker 1: Goofy the dog. Yeah, okay, it's common knowledge. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: So this is I mean, this is the kind of

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Speaker 3: Just find some people just want to skim along the surface.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about it.

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Speaker 2: We're so often, honestly, and we've been doing the show

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Speaker 2: we said, if Bill's open to it, let's get into

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Speaker 3: Squaredes, my brothers, I'm pleased to be here. And I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I say, yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: And so the question is, if you are crossing into

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Speaker 2: If somebody just folds the newspaper and my comment, Let's

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Speaker 3: Raing a big, bigger question. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of evidence that it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: You're not, you're not.

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Speaker 2: I don't seem to be right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's why, like in this situation, not

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Speaker 2: Right, that's pillow.

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Speaker 1: We just need to get that straight. We not even

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Speaker 3: But you know, we can rest on science and on facts.

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Speaker 3: So I think you can assume it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to.

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Speaker 3: Don't even say anything, mind yourself, say it out to

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Speaker 3: you got to remind them. No, I think it's best

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Speaker 1: It was in a different universe. That's right.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck were they doing over there anyway?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And our bodies replenish every you know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm realizing this is sort of what train dreams

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Speaker 3: No, right, it's exactly that we never get tired of

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Speaker 2: If I I have a dream somebody running a train,

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Speaker 3: We know it happened once. It was a book and

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Speaker 1: I wrote a book about it. He saw that.

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Speaker 3: I think he didn't, well, you know what, he made

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Speaker 1: It's a shame that he has gone because if I

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Speaker 1: did you really dream about that? Or did it happen?

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Speaker 2: Or did it happen?

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Speaker 1: You see?

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Speaker 3: It for real made up the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: In a.

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Speaker 2: We've been looking into the future and this AI. I

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Speaker 2: never replace what you do, Bill, You're an artist, you're

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Speaker 2: an actor. We need that, We need the people. They

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they can't. Did I say never? It hasn't yet.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've proven you can't get a genie back.

446
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: In a bottle.

447
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's.

448
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: That research is kind of new. Finally said you can't. Yeah,

449
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: so I think we might as well.

450
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Accept it. You've worked, I mean, we've alway.

451
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: There's two things about AI that I don't like. One,

452
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: it never makes a mistake and that makes me suspicious. Oh, yeah,

453
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: and two, it can't make a mistake. So they say, so,

454
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: I think that kind of perfection in the world is

455
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: not only.

456
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: Its really two different things.

457
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were two things that bothered you. One was

458
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: that it never makes a mistake, and one was that

459
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: it can't make a mistake.

460
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: That's two different things. Okay, in what? In what way?

461
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: I hate to get bogged down in the difference between

462
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 2: the two things.

463
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just because you were so intentional about those

464
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: being two things, like, I'm just I would love to

465
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: find some way to separate those ideas, yeah, into two separate.

466
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you were writing it, you could

467
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: put a backslash or a colon or something like that.

468
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: But I think we can figure it out math how

469
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: to say, Okay, okay, there's a mathemath, there's gotta be okay,

470
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: there's got to be a I can make a mistake.

471
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold up your finger.

472
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: That's one okay, Okay, AI cannot make a mistake. Okay,

473
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 3: that's piece to you.

474
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: Those feel like that's two things. So the math holes

475
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: you didn't take.

476
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 2: You changed one of the what one of the things was,

477
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: which is actually that's your right, you know what I mean?

478
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: I still think we have rights in this country actually to.

479
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: Work with you.

480
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: But I didn't think. I don't think I misspoke. I

481
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: think I said it right.

482
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: Didn't say you misspoke, didn't say you misspoke, said it

483
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: was your right, and you are right to change one

484
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: of them you went from. Initially the first one was

485
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 2: a I can never make a mistake. Then it became

486
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: a I can make a mistake.

487
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I said. That's two things.

488
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is which by.

489
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: The Wayne science.

490
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you're gonna have to time, You're gonna

491
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: have a tough time.

492
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: Yes, And this is a little bit of these science.

493
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't care about your feelings.

494
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: This is kind of like the problem with working with writers,

495
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: right is like the language that's coming in is like

496
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: it's never quite there, you know what I mean.

497
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: That's something we've been discussing a lot.

498
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: We've we've all worked with Jojo and easy E and

499
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: those guys like their brothers, they have their rhythms, but

500
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 1: that also means they share the same genetic problems, you know,

501
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: and not bringing you a scene.

502
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: Not the best people to be, you know, providing one

503
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: another with checks and balances because they have the same

504
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: genetic feelings.

505
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: You know, well, on Shameless, we did two things. We

506
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: kept the writers and we got them all therapists, and

507
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: that sort of held it together and the scripts kept coming.

508
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

509
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes a therapist would go on vacation and

510
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: wacky ship would have in the.

511
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: You know who's you in the cast, Me and the

512
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: cast secured therapist for all the writers, the way you

513
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: might bring in a coffee truck one day. M hmm,

514
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: you had twenty four hours. Kind of what a writer is.

515
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: It's like a right, a coffee truck. You can have

516
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: a good one, yes, and you can have somewhere the

517
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: coffee is so weak it could beat the ship out

518
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: of an egg.

519
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: Mm hm hmmm.

520
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, or there, or that it couldn't yeah, maybe

521
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: even weaker than that, where it couldn't.

522
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: It couldn't beat You said two things.

523
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess I yeah, I guess.

524
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I just the idea of weak coffee being able to.

525
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 2: That the weak coffee is winning a fight. That that's

526
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: how weak it.

527
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: Is against a solid No, no, no, I said it

528
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: couldn't beat it, Yeah, which is what could beat up

529
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: an egg.

530
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: You know what, I had the right to say either.

531
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: You said that as yes, as yeah, as a citizen anyway,

532
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 2: you can definitely do that.

533
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: Are we talking about?

534
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: And we have some sides here that we wanted to go.

535
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you're an actor, Jesus Christ. I'm telling you

536
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: what we got.

537
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: It's a matter of pride. I don't use sides. I

538
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: know the lines when.

539
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: I get there. Really.

540
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Oh incredible, you know, incredible for us because I don't

541
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: think we have time.

542
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: There's a piece of paper in my back pocket that's

543
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: all folded up so no one can say, but that's

544
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: not the lines. I mean, it just looks like that.

545
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: That's we were talking about meditation. Yeah, I cannot remember

546
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: phrase I'm.

547
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Supposed to say.

548
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: That's all that is. It's not my lines.

549
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I knew this about you, and I wanted to

550
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: hear you say it. You're a pro your off book

551
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: on every single script you've ever shot permanently, and I

552
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: know you can display that right now, mister Linderguard. Sorry

553
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: to bother you again. Can I come in? Uh?

554
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was, Yeah, you bet you.

555
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: Uh, I understand. I'll keep it real short. Then I'm

556
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: on my way out of town. But I was wondering,

557
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: do you mind if I sit down? I'm carrying a

558
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: bit of a load here.

559
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: Well, you know I am already sitting, so you want

560
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: to sit too, Okay, Yeah, sure.

561
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: Real good. It's really close. It's really close, basically perfect. Yeah,

562
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: it's just this vehicle astbot yesterday I was just wondering.

563
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to do a lot count.

564
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it was perfect, the pause was perfect, every

565
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: like that. You are completely off book on this scene. People,

566
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: This is like, this is what we're talking about. This

567
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: is I mean, this is a jojo scene. By the way.

568
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: You can tell just from it, how you can feel it.

569
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: You can feel it that he was perhaps in his

570
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: cups when he wrote this.

571
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: Should we I proove on this scene with the help

572
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: of the smartest computer in the entire world.

573
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: Powerful technology to ever exist in.

574
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: The history of these lines? You're telling me are a

575
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: real question?

576
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Well, well but are we still sorry? Are we still

577
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: reading the script? Is that what you're asking is we're

578
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: talking right now? Yeah? Ok, let me put this down

579
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: out of the scene now, yes, sorry, I think that

580
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: was very sudden. I don't want to pull you out

581
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: of it too quick. That scene.

582
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: You were good, you were making lemonade.

583
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: I'll say, with some.

584
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: Material, have you lost faith in your sides? Is that

585
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 3: what's happening?

586
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: No, we were flipping them over. I was trying to you,

587
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: we're still reading the So is there like you have

588
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: a way version that like can show we still have

589
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: faith in them. No, I understand something.

590
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So I just put them down so that we

591
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: could talk without you being mister London guard. Uh, and

592
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: we could discuss the idea that. Sure, that scene was good,

593
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: It was fine. You were doing a lot of the

594
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: work camera.

595
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Was doing in a lot of work in the movie.

596
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: Could the script have been so good it would have

597
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: made your jam a little easier? And the answer is yes.

598
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: And I think we've actually done that through the use

599
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: of this incredible AI technology and we were able to

600
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: take the first draft, which was a decent first draft,

601
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: and turn into actually a finished product.

602
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so you took AI and then you you just did.

603
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: A bit m hm. Would you like to do a

604
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: scene where we like play this? I'd love to see that, Okay?

605
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: Should I give him the like the good version?

606
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me your best shot.

607
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: You want Wait, what do you want me to do?

608
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: I just thought you might want a chance to like,

609
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: I got to be in the scene large time. I thought,

610
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: like in case you wanted to like we you know,

611
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: we're partners. We like to like make space for each other,

612
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: and like sometimes we get mad if one of us

613
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: is going to be like the star you know what

614
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean.

615
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: Does somebody have a better role than the other person

616
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: in the scene you're about to do.

617
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

618
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh so we're saying that, like should I mean, is

619
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: he saying like you and I just do it and

620
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: we just leave him out of it?

621
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: That's interesting, you know, you know, like to watch a

622
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: small actors only small parts, right, mm hmm.

623
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: Hold on, some of them are pretty small.

624
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: The way I do it, I get pretty small. Okay,

625
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: when I'm acting, I essentially disappear.

626
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: What's so small? And that's why, like he can have

627
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: been in so many incredible projects.

628
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait, you literally disappear.

629
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to find me. It's kind of a

630
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: game for the audience to play of.

631
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: Like plays next door to each other if you just yeah,

632
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: the change, costume changes and like that can be sort

633
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: of complicated. That'snique brother.

634
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

635
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that, and I've been waiting to be

636
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: recognized for how difficult it is to recognize me.

637
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: Would you like to be Bill? Would you like to

638
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: play Bill's character in this scene? Oh? I don't know.

639
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: I mean I guess you can do it.

640
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh it's just a dream come true.

641
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, just be loose, have fun with it.

642
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Okay, March, sir, sorry to bother you again. Can I

643
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: come in? No, I'm little, I'm little. I'm a little busy, Marx,

644
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: I understand. So to summarize, I'm leaving town but wondering

645
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: if I should stay. I'm carrying luggage here, No, Marge, Yes,

646
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: the same car I asked about yesterday. I'm wondering to you. Yes,

647
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: we don't have car, March. That's good. Are you sure?

648
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Because I mean, how do you know? Since it was

649
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: my crime. The detectives left with the plate, and I

650
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: called the people who work here, so if they don't connect,

651
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: it could be random. I see, Marge. So how have

652
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: you been making lists lately?

653
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: We don't have a car, sir?

654
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: A I did that? Yes, yes, you know. I don't let.

655
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: The Cohen brothers hear that it would break their hearts.

656
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: That's really good.

657
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: That's tough already, right, because.

658
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Anything I would tell really tell easy E and then

659
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: he can tell Jojo.

660
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: You know, okay, I I'm asking you could we keep

661
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: this under our heads. Not a fan of AI, but

662
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: that was a brilliant scene.

663
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Do you think they're not going to hear the episode though?

664
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the issue.

665
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: That many people are going to be listening to this one.

666
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: I think they said I was pretty safe to do

667
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: it because it's such a small audience. I think some

668
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: implied I could call them all and like individually.

669
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Are you wait, are you willing to do that? You're

670
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: willing to call every one of our listeners? No? No, no, no,

671
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: just that it's a you.

672
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: You're just saying, you know, one could Okay, I'm not Yeah,

673
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm not worried nobody's going to hear this. Maybe what

674
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: if you just said that's why I said fuck a

675
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: couple of times.

676
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: What if you just said something like, hey, I know

677
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: you thought you were listening to the podcast a second ago,

678
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: but this is actually me calling you during the podcast.

679
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't have time to talk right now, you know

680
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: what I mean? So the listener thinks that they that

681
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: they did actually just receive a call from you to.

682
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: Ask everybody to do this thing. You know where you

683
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: put your and your pinky finger.

684
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: And that's helpful for you as an actor.

685
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: No, it might be helpful for the people to think

686
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: that they're on the phone. Oh, they're not that stupid.

687
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm being crazy.

688
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: One of them is.

689
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them are actually stupid, or like, they're

690
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: so stupid they wouldn't be able to make that shape

691
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: with them, at least not on command. They've probably accidently

692
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: done it.

693
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we should go for it. Hello, it's

694
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: William and Shmacy. I just wanted to call you up

695
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: and apologize for that podcast. I was ill informed by

696
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: my handlers. I'm very very sorry. Goodbye.

697
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hanging up sound was more squishy than I.

698
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Would have expected, right because it was sopping.

699
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: I think it is a dry click normally, but they've

700
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: got they perhaps got an underwater phone.

701
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Or you guys are tough. Hello.

702
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: This is William H.

703
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Macy.

704
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to apologize for being on that dumb ass podcast.

705
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to hang up now.

706
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: Better, Oh my god, and I we're not going to

707
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: get all the wetness out, so I really it was

708
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: much drier for sure. Yes, it was humid, just that it.

709
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Was only one click this time and not a series of.

710
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: Floor with it.

711
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: And that's the people. We got it, even if half

712
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: of them don't believe it. It's you know, I've done

713
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: it enough good. I'd love to talk about these fucking handlers.

714
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: Like my handlers are being so mean to me lately.

715
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: They don't let me eat the stuff I want to eat.

716
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: They don't let me play with the toys I want

717
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: to play with.

718
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: Oh, bedtimes getting earlier in our life.

719
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, sun stay, they think I don't notice that the

720
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: sun is still up and it's have for me to

721
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: go to bed. Man.

722
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you except sooner or later,

723
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 3: you got to stand up.

724
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you put it off, you've been just.

725
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: It's gonna be later, it will happen. You got to

726
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: stand up. I'm stand up till ten and give me

727
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: the duck I want. It doesn't matter what you think about.

728
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: Stand up for yourself.

729
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: It was the duck for me to What is it

730
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: about that they don't want us to have that duck?

731
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: Huh?

732
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: That's just for the tub? Why I know the squeaky

733
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: fell out of mind.

734
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I still loved it, Yeah, I really did.

735
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: It's not about the sound For me, it's about the companionship. Yeah,

736
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: I don't feel clean if I don't have the duck.

737
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question about the land on

738
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: and it's on LU on FX. We'll be watching it on.

739
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: On X Who I should have stopped you? Okay?

740
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, please please Hulu their decision, You

741
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: and the show are the owner of the Cleveland Browns.

742
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: What do you think of their decision to have you

743
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: actually have legitimate decision making power over the real life

744
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns franchise for the last seven years going into

745
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: in order to prepare.

746
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: For this sort of a method operation you've been Do.

747
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: You feel like that worked out from an acting perspective,

748
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: from a football perspective, because I know there's been some

749
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: second guessing on allowing you to actually have complete and

750
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: total team control for such a long time. Well, I

751
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: hear you. I floated the idea.

752
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: You're all I can do to say, let me run

753
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns for a while and then I'll know

754
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: right then because reality is better than fiction. It's just

755
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: because you know why it's real. The word comes from

756
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: real but actors, you know, though they don't. The actors

757
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: are kind of low people. On the totem Pole. I

758
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: know that shocking to say, it's.

759
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: True and so, but it was your idea to run

760
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. And did you say that it's sort

761
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: of like a threat, like you wouldn't do it unless

762
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: you've got control of the team.

763
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: With great humility, I said, let me just sit in

764
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: the front office. And you know, it doesn't that I think,

765
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: I said a week, but of course they could have countered.

766
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: But at some point, it's just normal that you're in there,

767
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: you know.

768
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: And it would seems I'm pretty good at what I do.

769
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: I think I would be invisible and very small by the.

770
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: End of the time.

771
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get small as well.

772
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And humility comes from the you know, when you

773
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: said that, I didn't realize that I.

774
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Do it too. Oh, you do it. Yeah.

775
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: I can think of a lot of roles I've done

776
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: where I was a lot smaller at the end of

777
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: the film than when I started.

778
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: Okay, how many minutes is the show the land?

779
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: How many minutes? I don't know. It takes thousands, that's

780
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: all I know.

781
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Film, and it just feels like so many minutes. And

782
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: sometimes you watch these most of it's not in here and.

783
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: They usually don't use all of that thing because this was.

784
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: A month, you know, months of my life, and you

785
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: were talking about you were talking about roles that you've done.

786
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you wanted to sort of like

787
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: talk about your career and things like that. I think

788
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: we want to focus on the stuff people actually want

789
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: to hear, you know, just like how many minutes is

790
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: the show? Well? Yeah, for them, you know, like let's

791
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: actually get down to business.

792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the stuff, a lot of the

793
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: roles they can just see if they want to find

794
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: the movie or whatever. But how many minutes I don't know.

795
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can get that anything else.

796
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Ay, I could tell you pretty quickly.

797
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: Scary, man, it's scary.

798
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: How good that stuff is? Scary. They're getting so good

799
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: at the number of minutes. They're getting really close.

800
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: They're getting close.

801
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: It has the same numbers in it. Sometimes, No, what

802
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: does the answer that they give when you say how

803
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: many minutes is this show? Sometimes the answer that they

804
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: give back.

805
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: To within a fraction of an hour even.

806
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: The same, like number of digits are.

807
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: You saying to me with a straight face? Sometimes AI,

808
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: I can be right, and sometimes it can be wrong.

809
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: Didn't we cover that? And what was all that?

810
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: There were two things he didn't like about it, Hay,

811
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: there were two things, and now you bring it up blithely.

812
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: I did so. I'm editing the show in my head

813
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: as we go. Okay, well, I'm experiencing the show as

814
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: a listener.

815
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 3: You keep the part in where you say it. I'm

816
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: asking you to keep my rebuttal in.

817
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep some of the different parts I'm thinking.

818
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: About stuff I'm going to add in.

819
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Lady. Yeah, we're gonna be doing a lot of that.

820
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: Plenty are on this one.

821
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah you do.

822
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: AI, and they're gonna have me saying curse words. Yeah,

823
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna be as we're gonna be able to work

824
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: that in.

825
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: You know, and cutting us into Woody Creek Distillery.

826
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: My handlers, I can say with some authority the term

827
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: is now handler.

828
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: You've just noticed that your disillery, Woody Creek, does not

829
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: have a signature podcast. There is no podcast flavored, there's

830
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: no offering.

831
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: There's no podcast partnership really whatsoever that we've been able

832
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: to detag. And right, it's again hal that microphone taste,

833
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because this isn't look, not

834
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: just this show, but a lot of these shows.

835
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: It's big Now podcast, a regular podcast.

836
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: The Woody Creek Podcast.

837
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: What and go through cast? What's the portfolio that you

838
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: offer right now? From Woody Creek?

839
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: We have everything except rum and tequila and podcasts.

840
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: But now post now you have podcasts? Well, yeah, to

841
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: do it. We just made it up. We just did it.

842
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Is that all you have to do?

843
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: This is I could just come back in here and

844
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: start talking anytime.

845
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna will probably have to put a banner

846
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: or something. But other than that, this is now the

847
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Woody Creek Podcast. Let's face it. I mean we've already

848
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 2: got wood in the name.

849
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: Of the show.

850
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: What would the banners say, Hi Bill, welcome back, Happy Birthday?

851
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: I mean, whatever we moved.

852
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: It's radio man, What are you talking about? Yeah?

853
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: But don't you feel more comfortable when you kind of

854
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: look up and go, oh, somebody was thinking about me.

855
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's what they feel, not what we feel.

856
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Wow, generous, Hey, did you hear that?

857
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: That's for you? The way I roll, that's for you,

858
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: the listeners.

859
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: He's doing it for the audience.

860
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: This was all for you.

861
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: I've lost track. I've been in the woods. You just

862
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: brought me back. God damn, I get so wrapped up

863
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: in my own stuff making this.

864
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: Show, don't you.

865
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: It's not about how I feel, it's about how they feel.

866
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: Wow, and I it's good when you have a guess

867
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: because me and your audience we share something, which is

868
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: we don't care whether.

869
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: You like it or not.

870
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, or you actively sometimes don't want me to.

871
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: Enjoy it, right yeah, sometimes, but we have that My

872
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: point I've fund between the guests and your audience against

873
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: you guys. It's well, it's part of what makes the

874
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: whole thing work, that common enemy.

875
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: I think I actually owe the audience an apology, and

876
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: I've gotten a little lesson in how to do it

877
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: from my friend.

878
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Here.

879
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: He's got his hand up with a little finger in

880
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: front of his mouth, and it's radio your dumbass.

881
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, go ahead, Hey, audience, this is Sean.

882
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm here.

883
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: Bill just taught me a pretty valuable lesson, and I

884
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: just wanted to say sorry. And from now on, I'm

885
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: gonna have your experience in mind a little bit more.

886
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: I wasn't that wet. He just hung up, So I

887
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: wasn't that wet.

888
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: Come on, hung The show's over the show's over bite bye.

889
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: That was sloppy, wet, that was like disgusting.

890
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: I agree to disagree on this one bill. And by

891
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: the way, I did just hang up so bite by

892
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: Hamburg