Speaker 1: Come on here, guys, and welcome to No Buffs, the
Speaker 1: ten thousandth podcast about the greatest television show ever made, Survivor.
Speaker 2: I'm j E.
Speaker 1: Skeets, rolling with three fellow tribe members. First up, he's
Speaker 1: got a beard like Rupert and he rips more lips
Speaker 1: than Ausie and I'm talking about fish lips. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: sick of We've got Trey Kirby. Hey, hey, yo, wait,
Speaker 1: got our super producer from No Dunks and more importantly,
Speaker 1: a super Survivor fan, JD. Hello, there he is, and
Speaker 1: look at this. This is pretty damn epic. We are
Speaker 1: ecstatic to welcome to the No Buffs tribe. The executive
Speaker 1: producer at Crooked Media cranking out the hits on Takeline
Speaker 1: all caps in his new pod X ray Vision.
Speaker 3: He loves Ethan.
Speaker 1: It is Jason conception on. What's up? Jason?
Speaker 2: It is a delight to be here.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what were you actually showing us there
Speaker 1: for all the live stream?
Speaker 4: So this is a postcard that I got from the
Speaker 4: great and legendary Ethan Survivor looking handsome through three stages
Speaker 4: of his life.
Speaker 1: Beautiful.
Speaker 4: I got this because I bought a I bought a
Speaker 4: Survivor T shirt from his internet store, and then he
Speaker 4: was kind enough to send me two signed postcards. I
Speaker 4: didn't even ask for him, he just did it.
Speaker 2: What a nice guy. Wow?
Speaker 1: What as locks to love Ethan Beautiful? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: So look, I listed all the shows that you're knocking
Speaker 1: out of the park, Jason, but you still have time
Speaker 1: to do a Survivor podcast here with no buffs. And
Speaker 1: I want to point out right now everyone, this isn't
Speaker 1: just for the premiere episode here of no buffs. It's
Speaker 1: not like Jason is a guest. Jason is here all
Speaker 1: season long breaking down these episodes. My man, you must
Speaker 1: love Survivor.
Speaker 4: It it's just fun to talk about. It's like a
Speaker 4: vacation within a show for me. You know, if I'm
Speaker 4: looking at beaches, I'm looking at beautiful, it's ocean views.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at palm trees, I'm looking at bug bites.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm on vacation.
Speaker 1: Well would you go on Survivor?
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you ask.
Speaker 4: I've thought about it, if I would have to, if
Speaker 4: the opportunity ever seriously presented itself.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to go out of my way
Speaker 2: to try and be on it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think i'd be Okay, I think i'd be decent,
Speaker 4: but I I would consider it.
Speaker 3: Okay, you would be a fan favorite, and I think
Speaker 3: people would recruit you. They're going to see this podcast
Speaker 3: say oh we can get Jason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're going to be on Survivor. Well let's
Speaker 1: call it now season forty four or something like that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be out there, and you better make me
Speaker 1: your loved one visit. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: Well, this is my other bit that I have with
Speaker 4: my partner and my other Survivor friends, is when the
Speaker 4: loved one visits or the letter or whatever come out
Speaker 4: and everybody's like, God, I'm just gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's up, yes, stone cold, I didn't see it, no hut, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: no good Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, all right, guys, let's get into this. So I'll
Speaker 1: let everybody know the schedule here for no buffs. Okay,
Speaker 1: every Wednesday night, Survivor is on. Everybody knows that if
Speaker 1: you're a Survivor fan, we will not be going live
Speaker 1: right after the show. We're gonna leave that to the
Speaker 1: Survivor experts. You gotta leave that to the know it
Speaker 1: all's there in uh In Rob and Stephen fish Back
Speaker 1: and all that. Rob has a podcast. We'll do our
Speaker 1: breakdowns TK the next day, you know, I know, Tray,
Speaker 1: you like a get like a couple hours to digest
Speaker 1: what we just saw, talk it over, maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit formulate your thoughts. So the plan is every Thursday
Speaker 1: is when we'll all jump on together around this time.
Speaker 1: Let's call it five thirty six o'clock Eastern time, three
Speaker 1: o'clock to thirty three o'clock on the on the West coast,
Speaker 1: and that's when we'll do it TK. Is that make
Speaker 1: sense to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now that it's in a podcast and an official podcast,
Speaker 3: we got to take it way more seriously. So we
Speaker 3: need those extra few hours skeets, Yeah, to watch it
Speaker 3: through a second time and really break down the indiacies
Speaker 3: of what may happen. I think I'm not going to
Speaker 3: be dipping into the Ponderosa breakdowns afterwards at this point.
Speaker 3: That's like a press conference after a game. We got
Speaker 3: to get all of the sicko stuff into this because
Speaker 3: if we're gonna blow it out, we got to blow
Speaker 3: it out. I mean this can serve as our audition tapes,
Speaker 3: our four audition tapes for trying to get onto the
Speaker 3: island by talking Stratton just entertaining the people out here.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that, I know for this one, and
Speaker 1: we'll get into it with all the details of Survivor
Speaker 1: forty one, there's no more like tribal themes, right, there's
Speaker 1: no brain versus beauty versus or the hustlers versus heroes.
Speaker 1: There's none of that. They're just going with Survivor forty one.
Speaker 1: But who's to say it doesn't come back JD. And
Speaker 1: there's like a podcasters versus television hosts versus radio personalities.
Speaker 1: This might be our tribe, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I can't wait for that. That'd be awesome. I
Speaker 2: actually I kind of miss I'm gonna miss the subtitles.
Speaker 2: I have to say, Well, you're you're a fan.
Speaker 1: You're a fan of like Survivor thirty seven, David versus Gliath.
Speaker 2: You like I mean never actually no, really, because I go, oh,
Speaker 2: this is the cheesiest thing I've ever seen, right, like,
Speaker 2: this is this is But then I would always get
Speaker 2: into it, and then I always like the sort of
Speaker 2: the prison the Stanford Prison experiment thing that happened where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, hey, I'm gen X and that's how
Speaker 2: we gen X do this, you know, Yes, And oh
Speaker 2: I'm a hustler because that's what you know, that's what
Speaker 2: I do. I'm a healer, so I healed, you know
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So I liked the way people
Speaker 2: sort of pigeonholed themselves into whatever Jeff Probes decided they
Speaker 2: were going to be. Yeah, so I'm blue collar. That's
Speaker 2: how we do things, you.
Speaker 4: Know, I'm no collar whatever that means.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bangers, right, like David versus Goliath, great one. I
Speaker 3: thought Neils versus gen X, great one. Yeah, But then
Speaker 3: heroes hustlers, healers like, yeah, well he didn't mean I
Speaker 3: wouldn't think a healer would probably be a hero. You
Speaker 3: got a hustle to do it. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe make if you say we're never going back to
Speaker 3: a theme, nobody expects it, and then you can spring
Speaker 3: a great one.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Maybe, uh, well we'll get into
Speaker 1: the entire cast. But maybe Survivor forty one is everybody's
Speaker 1: just forty one years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oldies.
Speaker 1: So Okay, guys, So here's what we're doing with No Buffs.
Speaker 1: We're dropping this first one here in the No Dunks
Speaker 1: YouTube feed, in the podcast feed, but we have set up,
Speaker 1: or we're in the process when it comes to Spotify
Speaker 1: of setting up a solely Survivor oriented No Buffs channel
Speaker 1: both on YouTube and Apple and Spotify wherever you listen
Speaker 1: to your podcast. So go seek that out No Buffs
Speaker 1: and that's where all the rest of these are going
Speaker 1: to go. But we had to start this one in
Speaker 1: the No Dunks feed. Okay, so we're talking all Survivor
Speaker 1: what forty one here the details of the players will
Speaker 1: make predictions, which we were talking about offline, is damn
Speaker 1: near impossible. Yeah, Jason, it's like, ah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'll go with him or her. We'll try and pick
Speaker 1: a first boot too, that's just as difficult. But before
Speaker 1: we get to the actual season and all the little
Speaker 1: twists we have for this one, I thought it would
Speaker 1: be fun to look at this. I mean, Trey, you
Speaker 1: already said it. This is like our you know, our
Speaker 1: real that we're sending in to Jeff Probes and the
Speaker 1: Survivor producers that we sort of go over why or
Speaker 1: how we became Survivor fans, maybe share some of our
Speaker 1: favorite seasons, players, moments and all that. So Jason, you
Speaker 1: get a started. I want, I want like it is
Speaker 1: a little resume, name, age, occupation, Describe yourself in three words,
Speaker 1: and then your biggest pet peeve before we talk about
Speaker 1: your Survivor past.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, So my name is Jason's Deceepsione. I'm forty
Speaker 4: one Survivor forty one watching I started watching. I watched
Speaker 4: the original season because of all the buzz and everything.
Speaker 4: I got hooked onto it, and then I kind.
Speaker 2: Of fell away. I would say, after Pearl Islands, what
Speaker 2: was the Race War?
Speaker 4: I think it might have been Race Cook Islands maybe
Speaker 4: right Cook Islands.
Speaker 2: So I kind of like started to fade out.
Speaker 4: Was in and out at that time, got back in
Speaker 4: a big way, you know, around the day around Millennials
Speaker 4: versus gen X, David versus Glias, Second Chance era yep.
Speaker 4: And then I've just been back on the train and
Speaker 4: I think, and you know, honestly, it's one of the
Speaker 4: best binges that you can have.
Speaker 2: And during these.
Speaker 4: Quarantine days that we've had over the last year, I
Speaker 4: just have been going through them and just running down
Speaker 4: Survivor after Survivor after Survivor. I am watching heroes versus
Speaker 4: Healers versus hustlers right now, and it's fun. I just
Speaker 4: recently watched David's versus Glias.
Speaker 2: It's a great time.
Speaker 1: God, this guy is getting ready for the new season here. Okay,
Speaker 1: how would you again? How would you describe yourself? You're
Speaker 1: a Survivor contestant in three words? What's a little bio?
Speaker 4: I think that I am. I have a good social
Speaker 4: game and strong social game. I'm the I'm sewing chaos.
Speaker 4: I'm out here trying to like stir the pot to
Speaker 4: get people paranoid so hopefully I can continue to slip through.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, a little little finger like or something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: And biggest pet peeve? What's it saying?
Speaker 4: Get biggest pet peeve on the people who are bossy?
Speaker 1: Okay, excellent. So with all that out of the way,
Speaker 1: who is your all time favorite Survivor player? Jason?
Speaker 2: Denise?
Speaker 4: I think it's Denise short number one shortest player to
Speaker 4: ever win Survivor at five foot even, which is huge. Actually,
Speaker 4: like has when you tell people that I think they're shocks.
Speaker 4: She has such a huge physically, she just has a
Speaker 4: huge presence. She's a big presence. One of my favorite
Speaker 4: tribal final speeches of all time when she came in
Speaker 4: and was just like, listen, I'm not gonna apologize for
Speaker 4: anything that I've done. I've betrayed some people here, have
Speaker 4: lied to some people here, but I'm not gonna apologize.
Speaker 2: It's like, I love you. That's the shit.
Speaker 4: She is just fantastic, played the game with generosity but
Speaker 4: also ruthlessness. Had I think you could argue one of
Speaker 4: the maybe the best single move in winners.
Speaker 2: At War.
Speaker 4: Getting the Queen out. I just one of my favorites.
Speaker 4: Everybody seems to love her. Plays with a joy and
Speaker 4: a thoughtfulness and not afraid to get down a dirty
Speaker 4: big fan all.
Speaker 1: Right, didn't see that coming, Denise, winner of Survivor Season
Speaker 1: twenty five the Philippines. That's when like her and Malcolm
Speaker 1: were like yes, sort of like a crazy one too
Speaker 1: that maybe a lot of people didn't see coming. Okay, favorite,
Speaker 1: This is awesome because you've been watching a lot of
Speaker 1: these recently favorite Survivor's season If you had to pick one,
Speaker 1: very difficult. I know they're all amazing, but.
Speaker 3: What would you think.
Speaker 4: I guess you know, Heroes Versus Villains for the for
Speaker 4: the kind of bridging of.
Speaker 2: Old school to new school, just.
Speaker 4: Like Gangbuster play legendary cast JT's letter. It's like, there's
Speaker 4: a million things that have I'm against you, Russell Sandra
Speaker 4: burning his hat.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a.
Speaker 4: Great season and I think one of the great introductory seasons.
Speaker 4: If you have a person who you're in your life,
Speaker 4: you're like, I think you'd like this start with Heroes
Speaker 4: Versus Villain Season twe all.
Speaker 1: Right, and the final question, do you have a favorite
Speaker 1: Survivor moment? I mean it could be good or bad,
Speaker 1: So it could be a mistake, like what jumps out
Speaker 1: to you, like what's your what's like when you think Survivor,
Speaker 1: You're like, immediately your brain goes to like this, I mean.
Speaker 4: This is this is not this is not like an
Speaker 4: original one. But the Black Widows on Eric giving up
Speaker 4: the getting him to give up the immunity necklace. It
Speaker 4: it's unprecedented, It's never been repeated. It's like an impossible mission.
Speaker 4: The teamwork, it's like a heist movie, each playing their
Speaker 4: yea masterminded by the legendary soie and you can't.
Speaker 2: That is Survivor at its best.
Speaker 1: I rewatched that season. I guess sixteen, right, we're talking
Speaker 1: about here, not too long ago, And I remember in
Speaker 1: the time watching it, I was like, Ah, Eric, you idiot.
Speaker 1: He was stupid, fool, you know the Black widowber game
Speaker 1: got you. They got you and rewatching it, I felt
Speaker 1: so bad for they. Oh they got it broken.
Speaker 2: Ye you got him. I mean they got him.
Speaker 4: He was just too naive to understand what was happening
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 1: He was he was close. People think it's I mean,
Speaker 1: you see the lists that it's the They basically call
Speaker 1: it the dumbest move in Survivor history. Don't think it
Speaker 1: maybe is a little harsh, like if anything, it's like
Speaker 1: an incredible move by all the women coming together and
Speaker 1: like getting it off them. But yeah, do you is
Speaker 1: there what there is there something else that you would
Speaker 1: say is dumber Jason or is that sort of in
Speaker 1: the play for you?
Speaker 4: Oh, in terms of dumb, flat out like a dumb
Speaker 4: unforced error, jtuh sending the immunity necklace and writing the
Speaker 4: letter to Russell like based on that, he was so
Speaker 4: like his ingrained misogyny was so strong that he was
Speaker 4: had completely invented this, this idea that there was a
Speaker 4: women's alliance based off of the Black Widows and their
Speaker 4: incredible showing and of course parves uh and series like
Speaker 4: activity within that, but still like that was not a
Speaker 4: thing that was occurring.
Speaker 2: And so then he said that.
Speaker 4: He sent the immunion idol and the and the letter
Speaker 4: to Russell completely out of the blue. Absolutely dumb move,
Speaker 4: especially coming off of you know's yeah, and his his
Speaker 4: winning season was like pillar to post domination. Not a
Speaker 4: single vote cast for him, Like what that hurt his legacy?
Speaker 2: I'll say that was a legacy game. That was a
Speaker 2: legacy game for JT.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. All right, Trey, let's go to you again.
Speaker 1: Hit me with your well, your name, your age, and
Speaker 1: your occupation. Three things, uh, three words to describe yourself
Speaker 1: and then your biggest pet peeve.
Speaker 3: I'm Trey, I'm thirty seven, and I'm a podcaster. You
Speaker 3: think they would put podcaster on there?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Social Media manager is kind of close to the podcaster.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they would allow photoshop Boy or
Speaker 3: meme Lord.
Speaker 1: On there, but I would love to get a really.
Speaker 3: Weird one I mean, people are gonna laugh at podcaster anyways.
Speaker 3: I do think, but I don't know. There's nothing has
Speaker 3: ever beaten Philip Shepherd, former federal agent, the punctuation. They're like,
Speaker 3: are you sure, buddy? That's great describing myself in three
Speaker 3: words applicable to some survivor chill, adaptable, and I want
Speaker 3: people to know me as the funny guy on the season.
Speaker 3: I don't want them because I'm gonna show up. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna look taller than probably most of the people out there,
Speaker 3: but I'm not really gonna be that big of a
Speaker 3: physical threat. I don't think I'll be able to help
Speaker 3: on the team challenges, maybe compete in the individual ones,
Speaker 3: but I don't want that to be the first thing
Speaker 3: people think when they see me. Oh, look that big guy.
Speaker 3: We gotta get him out because he's big. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: that guy's very silly. We should keep him around. That's
Speaker 3: what I wanted to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to push back on the possibility of
Speaker 1: you not being chill, which you are ninety nine percent time.
Speaker 1: The times I've seen Trey Kirby upset and angry are
Speaker 1: when you're hungry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you're hangry.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little concerned that you could be a
Speaker 1: little short with people out there. Once you get a
Speaker 1: little rumbling in the belly there, Trey.
Speaker 3: That is gonna be my downfall. No doubt. We'll be
Speaker 3: just an occasional you know, Day fourteen rage.
Speaker 1: Just look it up on the.
Speaker 3: Back side of the shelter, on the wrong side of
Speaker 3: the bamboo, and it's just not like what you didn't
Speaker 3: stir the rice. Now all the rice is burn. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go take an angry dump out in the ocean.
Speaker 3: My biggest pet peeve survivor wise is puzzles. Brutal I
Speaker 3: would be puzzles, but my real pet.
Speaker 2: Peeve in Yeah, it might be a problem.
Speaker 3: I know. That's why. That's why I gotta be silly.
Speaker 3: Oh look at this funny guy can't even do the puzzles.
Speaker 3: You want a dumb dumb let's keep him around. Also,
Speaker 3: anytime an inanimate object doesn't work, like if I'm trying
Speaker 3: to fix something in the house and I can't fix it,
Speaker 3: I put a cat door on the wrong side of
Speaker 3: the door here recently supposed to be on the ground.
Speaker 3: You know where the cat.
Speaker 2: Is cut the top did Why did.
Speaker 3: I put a door whoops. You know, once you take
Speaker 3: the door off the hinges, who knows what said?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I got cha. You're living up to
Speaker 1: the silly guy right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy. And the problem for that would be like
Speaker 3: building the shelter. I would want to be helpful, but
Speaker 3: if it's going poorly, I'm gonna look bad on day one,
Speaker 3: I have no doubt about it. That's my all time
Speaker 3: favorite Survivor player. Yep, going all the way back to
Speaker 3: season one, hasn't been topped. In my book, Greg talk
Speaker 3: about an all time silly guy. He invented the coconut phone.
Speaker 3: One of the great lines ever. They get back from
Speaker 3: some tribal console. They're all expecting to eat their last
Speaker 3: chicken that they have there, but a kemodo dragon or
Speaker 3: something got hold of it and it just comes up the.
Speaker 1: Beach raging who got it? Go goddamn chicken before it hatch, Like.
Speaker 3: Just great lines. He's having a fake wrestling match with
Speaker 3: the guy there. He became the first juror and survivor
Speaker 3: history had the first individual immunity win. When he was eliminated,
Speaker 3: he just started fake crying, which I thought was great
Speaker 3: even Jeff Popes laughed at him. Then it comes to
Speaker 3: final tribal console. Everybody's doing their big speech as Susan
Speaker 3: Hawk gives her legendary speech.
Speaker 2: Legendary.
Speaker 3: But Greg's question to Richard and Kelly was pick a
Speaker 3: number between one and ten. Richard was closer, so he
Speaker 3: voted for Richard, and when he got to the voting
Speaker 3: confessional of the Marker, it seemed to me like Greg
Speaker 3: just wanted to have fun, hang out in nature, and
Speaker 3: there happened to be a show going on, which is
Speaker 3: probably why he hasn't been back since season one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3: It was just messing around the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I You know, you heard the stories,
Speaker 1: maybe read Mark Burnett's Survivor book, which of course I
Speaker 1: bought and read, and it's like he was sort of
Speaker 1: like a nightmare in the sense like he knew it
Speaker 1: was a television show and he was like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna fuck around with all these people and not take
Speaker 1: it nearly seriously enough and all this. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: the crazy video from his sister and then he sends
Speaker 1: a weird one back. He was just like basically weirding
Speaker 1: people out. The entire time, somebody else did eventually at
Speaker 1: one point, like who was it? Maybe Shane Powers invented
Speaker 1: like the BlackBerry where he was pretending to have a BlackBerry,
Speaker 1: which is no great update because back when in season
Speaker 1: one all phones did was call people, so eventually got
Speaker 1: an upgrade. But yeah, there have been other Greg like characters.
Speaker 1: I think Tyson is kind of like Greg, except for
Speaker 1: Tyson actually cares.
Speaker 3: About winning the game. Yeah, which actually is probably a
Speaker 3: smarter choice. You know, That's who I would want to play,
Speaker 3: like somebody who actually wants to try and win the game.
Speaker 3: But Greg, to me is still the most entertaining character
Speaker 3: that's been out there.
Speaker 1: It was he was legendary in that sense. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: almost a shame he never got back, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: better that he never did and just had that one
Speaker 1: hit under there. Favorite Survivor's season then are you sticking
Speaker 1: with season one, which is like, wow, you watch that
Speaker 1: now and it's crazy different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably put a vote for Survivor Kagayan,
Speaker 3: which has the debut of a ton of awesome players
Speaker 3: Tony Wu, Cast Spencer, Tasha, Sarah Lesina. Even the NBA's
Speaker 3: Cliff Robinson was on this season, people generally hail this
Speaker 3: as one of the best All New People casts, and
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly right, because almost all of those
Speaker 3: players have come back and been pretty good on their
Speaker 3: subsequent seasons. Ended with a crazy take. You're talking about
Speaker 3: all time dumb moves. WU taking Tony to the finale
Speaker 3: would have won who would be a millionaire if he
Speaker 3: takes cast with him?
Speaker 1: But no him? Yep, yeah, yeah, it wasn't. His old
Speaker 1: thing was like I want to take the best too.
Speaker 1: It's like that classic like I want to beat the
Speaker 1: best and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, WHOA don't.
Speaker 1: It's so yeah, I want to beat.
Speaker 3: The absolute worst.
Speaker 4: I want to take I want to say the absolute
Speaker 4: I want to take the absolute weakest, starving person who
Speaker 4: can't make five or anything.
Speaker 2: I want to bring that person here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true, it's true. And then final question, Trey,
Speaker 1: you know favorites, fiber moment or a mistake or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to pick.
Speaker 3: Well, Jason mentioned JT's letter to Russell, which is just
Speaker 3: so good and the resulting parvity, like reading it aloud
Speaker 3: with Russell is so funny. So I'll throw another quick
Speaker 3: vote for Adam Klein at Winners at war trying to
Speaker 3: tear off the podium. Yep, it seems awesome. You're like,
Speaker 3: they should definitely do that, they should put an idol there.
Speaker 3: Only they hadn't at this point. So the guys trying
Speaker 3: to tear a flur to lee off. Jeff is just
Speaker 3: egging him on, and eventually he gets into like to
Speaker 3: play the entire podium. He's like, Yeah, I just want
Speaker 3: to play this whole thing. Sure, that's not an idi either,
Speaker 3: see somebody. That's a great mistake and just very funny.
Speaker 3: At some point that will work, but the first time
Speaker 3: not working. Great stuff.
Speaker 1: I I I, okay, don't quote me on this, and
Speaker 1: like the real Survivor nerds out there will fact check me.
Speaker 1: I'm sure something like that I believe has happened in
Speaker 1: an international Survivor. I think so where there's been something
Speaker 1: at tribal council that you could like rip off or
Speaker 1: play or something like that. And maybe that's where Adam
Speaker 1: had gotten that idea. So you know, you're right, it's
Speaker 1: coming to the It's probably going to be in this season.
Speaker 1: If we're being notous, I could imagine we see something
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, great, JD my man, you know, name, age, occupation.
Speaker 1: Describe yourself in three words big s, pet peeve.
Speaker 2: Okay, my name is Jason Doyle. You can call me JD.
Speaker 2: I'm fifty years old. I'm up there with Rudy. I
Speaker 2: guess I'm all the one of the old guys on
Speaker 2: the tribe, and that's fine. I'm happy there. My occupation,
Speaker 2: I'm a retired DJ. Back in for one year. I
Speaker 2: DJ at a disco tech in Greece, and so now
Speaker 2: I'm retired from that. So that's what I would like
Speaker 2: my lower third to say. Also, Trey brought it up.
Speaker 2: I mean, podcaster is just it's like, what is that even?
Speaker 2: Like it's is that even a job like in my
Speaker 2: regular everyday life telling people I'm a podcast They people
Speaker 2: don't understand what I'm talking about. Still, describe myself in
Speaker 2: three words, I'm I'm quiet. I think that would be
Speaker 2: a huge detriment to my game early on, because you know,
Speaker 2: I'm a little I'm a little bit shy when you
Speaker 2: when I first meet people, especially in in that scenario.
Speaker 2: But I'm also cool, and by cool I mean chill.
Speaker 2: I'm actually chilled, yes, And also I'm ruthless. I will
Speaker 2: be the most ruthless in my confessionals especially, but I
Speaker 2: don't have any qualms about cutting people loose. I have
Speaker 2: no sympathy for people in general on any subject really,
Speaker 2: so I would. I would be absolutely savage out there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it. And your biggest pet peeve
Speaker 2: complainers complain. Well, no matter how badly I'm suffering, if
Speaker 2: somebody is complaining about the exact thing that I'm suffering about,
Speaker 2: I'll be like, I just want to shut up, Like
Speaker 2: what are you like? You know, just take it easy, man.
Speaker 2: That's so yeah, complaining would be a big problem for
Speaker 2: me out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, hit us with your all time favorite Survivor player
Speaker 1: cool and then season and then moment.
Speaker 2: So so hard to pick one. I'm gonna say Poverty.
Speaker 2: But just because she's electrifying on on camera, her strategy,
Speaker 2: her her ruthless. She is also ruthless, which I admire
Speaker 2: very much, and I just love watching every time she's on.
Speaker 2: I mean this last time she was. She's mellowed out
Speaker 2: significantly in Winners at War, but still great to see her.
Speaker 2: And she's a legend of the game. So many though,
Speaker 2: Natalie Anderson is up there, and I love the the
Speaker 2: underdog Mike White's and the Cochranes as well. Those are
Speaker 2: the ones that I'm drawn to, But I gotta go Parvonting.
Speaker 1: Okay, does that make one that she was on? Be
Speaker 1: it Micronesia fans were the favorite ones?
Speaker 2: You won?
Speaker 1: I guess right, sixteen or is there something else that
Speaker 1: you'll yeah again?
Speaker 2: It's so so hard to choose one. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: a little off the board. I'm going co wrong Brains,
Speaker 2: bron beauty, pound for a pound. I think I've found
Speaker 2: that to be the most entertaining season. We meet ty
Speaker 2: for the first time, we meet Aubrey for the first time,
Speaker 2: who is absolutely insufferable for the first half of this season,
Speaker 2: but then she has this massive transformation, which is the
Speaker 2: thing I love most about survivors, watching people's journey, right,
Speaker 2: like the most unlikely people, some will embrace where they are,
Speaker 2: embrace the game, get their shit together. And actually she
Speaker 2: made it to the end. As I remember in that season,
Speaker 2: Michelle and up winning, which was a huge shock to everybody.
Speaker 2: I think it was Aubrey, Tye and uh and Michelle
Speaker 2: in the end and people criticize that, but you know,
Speaker 2: when she came back, I looked at her through new
Speaker 2: eyes and and she's actually a badass, and I think
Speaker 2: that she totally deserved to win. Also, Scott Pollard was
Speaker 2: on that season. Yeah, yeah, and I loved the whole
Speaker 2: Uh when Tie he he betrays Jason, who's also a
Speaker 2: big burly guy, and Scott and then they have the
Speaker 2: biggest hissy fit I've seen on Survivor, and all they
Speaker 2: do is buck it up like they just went around
Speaker 2: sabotaging everything, which was so incredibly entertaining to me. And
Speaker 2: then finally, I believe that's a season where, uh, correct
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. It had the infamous challenge where
Speaker 2: three people go down all at once right from heatstroke?
Speaker 2: Is that is that I think Caleb gets he gets
Speaker 2: airlifted out of there. He was all right, thank goodness.
Speaker 2: But uh, it was just one of those seasons where
Speaker 2: it's just like so many holy shit moments and so
Speaker 2: many uh just just again pound for pound, a very
Speaker 2: very entry. I was entertained, so good.
Speaker 1: Great, Okay, And final question here the moment or mistake
Speaker 1: that that just sticks with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this moment was a definite holy shit moment.
Speaker 2: It was not a good moment, but it just it
Speaker 2: popped into my mind as soon as I saw this question,
Speaker 2: and it's when Varner outs Zeke at tribal Council. Just
Speaker 2: because it was just one of those it just transcended
Speaker 2: the show. You know. It was just like, I can't
Speaker 2: believe he just did that. Also very surprised to hear
Speaker 2: that Zeke was a trans was trans men, and also
Speaker 2: that they kept it under wraps. There was no tease,
Speaker 2: there was no nothing leading up to it. It was
Speaker 2: just one of the was like they had. Uh, it
Speaker 2: was so shocking because usually they'll just a TV show
Speaker 2: will just pump the shit out of you won't believe
Speaker 2: what happens. And this this tribal Council, it just came
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and it was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then the fallout was it just spilled into real
Speaker 2: life and it was just it actually was a watershed
Speaker 2: moment for the show, and I thought it was actually
Speaker 2: it ended up being very good for trans people, I think,
Speaker 2: and and and a lot of people learned a lot
Speaker 2: from it. Yeah, So it was just it was just
Speaker 2: a cool moment, a shocking moment, a holy shit moment,
Speaker 2: and uh, that's what part of what makes Survivor so
Speaker 2: great man.
Speaker 4: And also I was proud of the way that the
Speaker 4: cast reacted in that world because it was like, uh,
Speaker 4: I did not expect people to immediately come to Zeke's
Speaker 4: defense in the way that they did, and they did
Speaker 4: like without any kind of like hesitation, and that was
Speaker 4: really a heartwarming to see. And also I thought that
Speaker 4: was like an incrediblement. I thought Jeff handled that. That's
Speaker 4: why Jeff is a legend, because he like unpacked that
Speaker 4: entire moment and reflect allowed like reflected Varner's words back
Speaker 4: on him and allowed him to see hopefully like why
Speaker 4: that was really fucked up.
Speaker 2: He's like, do you not see what you're doing? Is
Speaker 2: like really, it's not good. It was what an amazing
Speaker 2: moment that was.
Speaker 1: It reminds me like when when you specifically get into
Speaker 1: playing Survivor and this whole idea and they've been saying
Speaker 1: it since season one, like where do you draw the
Speaker 1: line right? Like, like where is the line?
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 1: None? Like you know, some people like like rap battles
Speaker 1: or beefs, people are like, no, you can say whatever
Speaker 1: you want. It's a beef. It's a battle. You're allowed
Speaker 1: to And people are like, no, you can't like, there
Speaker 1: are certain lines that you shouldn't cross and that's too much.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that also happens and so and
Speaker 1: of course that line is different for absolutely everybody, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes it a fascinating But that
Speaker 1: is a that's an iconic moment for sure, JD and
Speaker 1: what sort of fell out of that? All right, I'll
Speaker 1: finish it off here, guys, just quickly, well, actually not quickly.
Speaker 1: Am I J. E. Skeets Or am I Phil Elder
Speaker 1: on this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: I am forty one, so that's great. I'm on Survivor
Speaker 1: forty one. Hopefully I'm gonna put podcast we've had. I
Speaker 1: remember was his name Kenny way back in the day,
Speaker 1: I want to say gabone, like season seventeen. He was
Speaker 1: like a video game player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like a professional.
Speaker 1: I remember the time going like what is that and thinking, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's sort of cool. So you know, maybe we'll inspire
Speaker 1: other podcasters by slapping a podcast on my lower third,
Speaker 1: So I'll go with it. Three words to describe myself
Speaker 1: organized empathetic, I think a very good one. I think
Speaker 1: on Survivor, I do have a decent ability to put
Speaker 1: myself in other people's shoes, I'd like to think at least,
Speaker 1: so I think that could help. And I'm gonna go funny.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and keep it like like Trey said
Speaker 1: my pet Peeve in real life, and it might translate
Speaker 1: to Survivor when they're all walking to tribal council slow
Speaker 1: walkers always, God, I hate getting behind slow walkers. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine walking in sand behind a slow walker. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I never get the tribal council. Uh, all
Speaker 1: time favorite Survivor player. Somebody already slipped it in there.
Speaker 1: I'm going Tyson. I I'm torn between Tyson and Jeremy,
Speaker 1: who I also love as frival. Jeremy, I think Tyson
Speaker 1: is the perfect balance between uh playing you know, okay,
Speaker 1: when I play pick up basketball. Trey knows this because
Speaker 1: I play with him. I love a balance of let's
Speaker 1: have some fun and like get a run in and
Speaker 1: nobody needs to be a dick and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I also want it to be a little competitive,
Speaker 1: you know. I wanted to be like, Okay, we're not
Speaker 1: just like dicking around here, like let's actually like get
Speaker 1: at it. You know, if we're barking at each other
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's fine. I want that competitive juice,
Speaker 1: so a good balance. I think Tyson does in the
Speaker 1: game Survivor is doing both, Like he knows it's a game,
Speaker 1: he knows he's on TV. He's a funny guy. He's
Speaker 1: super sarcastic. But then you counter that with like the
Speaker 1: guy wants to win, and he'll do a lot of
Speaker 1: things to try and make that happen. So I love Tyson.
Speaker 1: I think Jeremy I think he's a little more serious,
Speaker 1: or at least how he's portrayed on the show. But
Speaker 1: I think he's just cool. I just like would like
Speaker 1: to be Jeremy's friend.
Speaker 3: I would like to be Tyson's friend on the island
Speaker 3: because he has cracked the code in being able to
Speaker 3: eat any time he wants to. He's like the only
Speaker 3: guy that's never hungry on an episode or on a
Speaker 3: season of Survivor, Like he was the Coconut bandits with Jervis,
Speaker 3: and they would just go hide out, drink half the cocaanuts,
Speaker 3: and then bring it to everybody else and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: thanks for opening these cocaduts for us. Never no one's
Speaker 3: mentioning why are these all half empty? Never goes hungry,
Speaker 3: And then on Winters at War, he had like a
Speaker 3: peanut butter hideout the entire time all times, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been eating the peanut butter this entire time. I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna tell anybody else that's out here. Uh So,
Speaker 3: the fact that he's somehow on a show where like
Speaker 3: the main thing of surviving is you're going to be hungry,
Speaker 3: to figure out how to never be hungry is pretty impressive.
Speaker 1: It's a good skill to have out there on the island.
Speaker 1: My favorite Survivor's season, you guys have basically nailed them.
Speaker 1: I think it's I have three Heroes versus Villains is
Speaker 1: amazing with the Santra becoming the two time winner, Micronesia
Speaker 1: Fans versus Favorites with Parverdy sixteen and then kaya Ann
Speaker 1: with Brain's brown and Beauty Tony's first win. Those those
Speaker 1: are just awesome. They're iconic. But like, even the worst
Speaker 1: season of Survivor is better than ninety five percent of TV,
Speaker 1: Like I will I will fight anyone about that, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the worst season?
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
Speaker 1: They're all decent to me, they're all even the worst
Speaker 1: ones are good.
Speaker 4: Probably the brand Enhances season Blue Collar versus White Collar
Speaker 4: Snow Collar. M That season was I think a little rough.
Speaker 4: I reb Mike eats a Mike eats a scorpion episode one,
Speaker 4: and that's kind of like the coolest moment in the
Speaker 4: entire SyES.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, throws up. This is a bad idea, and
Speaker 1: Mike won, right, that was the one, Yeah have won.
Speaker 2: He was a clear winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, that one is bad, but still it's better
Speaker 1: than most television.
Speaker 2: At least.
Speaker 1: I'm entertained. Weekend week go my favorite Survivor moment. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna go with a really weird one
Speaker 1: here because I know and we'll be doing it here
Speaker 1: on no bus, talking strategy, who's led lining with who,
Speaker 1: who's going to backstab? You know, idols and advantage advantages
Speaker 1: and all that. I love a good old challenge though,
Speaker 1: and I liked him when they were like ten plus
Speaker 1: hours long, and I'm talking about Survivor ten, tom Ian
Speaker 1: and Katie in Palal the Final Immunity Challenge, which which
Speaker 1: is really what I want to keep it for, Like
Speaker 1: who just wants it more? At that point, all they
Speaker 1: had to do was hold on to a booie that's
Speaker 1: bobbing around in the water. Last one left standing wins.
Speaker 1: Katie lasted for five hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it went.
Speaker 1: Another seven hours.
Speaker 2: Insane.
Speaker 1: So and Jeff Propes they said they practiced it and
Speaker 1: they thought it would go forty five minutes.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Jeff was you know, Jeff was hot.
Speaker 4: He was like he's so mad at production after.
Speaker 1: That, I know, And this is the thing, like, I
Speaker 1: guess what was it David versus Christian?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: They Chris and Alex went for for six hours on
Speaker 4: the stand up thing.
Speaker 1: But those are generally super rare now, not because the
Speaker 1: survivor contestants are weak and just followed after forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: because survivors made a decision to like try and get
Speaker 1: rid of those, like yeah, super long immunity challenges where
Speaker 1: it's like just do you have it in you? How
Speaker 1: long can you literally stand or hold something up? Which
Speaker 1: I just love those, man, I love them at the
Speaker 1: end when it's hepped off at the end though he off. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I think is also brilliant about those challenges. Though, cool,
Speaker 1: you can you can do that, you can really talk
Speaker 1: somebody out of them possibly winning it by just hopping down.
Speaker 1: I love those, so I'm.
Speaker 3: Not should go down as one of the dumbest moves
Speaker 3: staying on a pedestal for for twelve hours and then
Speaker 3: jumping off at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was god, Oh my god, it's gotta be Yeah,
Speaker 1: poor Ian, that's a that's sort of yeah. He's got
Speaker 1: a lot of Eric vibes to him. Actually when h yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they were young, it makes sense. Okay, So there
Speaker 1: we are. We're all going on Survivor. Now, that's our
Speaker 1: little bio. We are going to get into Survivor forty
Speaker 1: one here, guys, trust me, I know we're running a
Speaker 1: little longer than we thought. We'll break down everything you
Speaker 1: need to know about this season and then get into
Speaker 1: the cast and make some predictions. But let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. Hopefully it's a Pontiac aztech GD or maybe
Speaker 1: some fringles we're selling here. Let's find out. We'll see
Speaker 1: all right back with no buffs getting into Survivor forty one. Here.
Speaker 1: I thought about this during the break, Jason, I want
Speaker 1: to try and one up your Ethan postcard with this
Speaker 1: very sexy Jeff Probes. I know the light yes, got
Speaker 1: it lit here there it is my man, Jared Bobby.
Speaker 1: This I forgot, I had it. I was like, hey, Noura,
Speaker 1: where's that sexy Jeff Probes candle we have? She's like,
Speaker 1: it's in the spare bathroom. Like, okay, great place for it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we have we have lit the candle there for Jeff. Okay,
Speaker 1: So guys, so Ribber forty one. Here's what we need
Speaker 1: to know, and I want to get your takes on
Speaker 1: some of it and we'll, you know, go around the
Speaker 1: horn here. First thing is we already sort of addressed
Speaker 1: it from off the top, but there's no more like
Speaker 1: the subtitle or the tribal theme, so you know, there
Speaker 1: is no David versus Goliath or Edge of Extinction or whatever. JD.
Speaker 1: We've got your sort of opinion on it. Jason, what
Speaker 1: do you think? Are you fine with this just the
Speaker 1: old number?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's try something new.
Speaker 4: I think it's time for It's a good natural stopping
Speaker 4: point for something fresh after taking a season off because
Speaker 4: of the pandemic, and so why not try something new
Speaker 4: and see where it goes? All new casts, no one returning,
Speaker 4: And it seems like it might be that way for
Speaker 4: a while, So why not just like, you know, freshen
Speaker 4: it up and see what works.
Speaker 2: I'm all for it, Trey.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I saw that they were originally gonna call it
Speaker 3: Dawn of a New Era, which I think kind of
Speaker 3: speaks to what Jason is talking about. Like, we went
Speaker 3: through forty seasons. Everybody who was great basically has come
Speaker 3: back and played once, if not a second, additional time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's time to get some fresh blood in
Speaker 3: here and pile up a lot of it. Right Like,
Speaker 3: we're only gonna have you know, eighteen castaways or whatever now,
Speaker 3: so they're not gonna be able to bring him back
Speaker 3: right away. Let's go three or four seasons with all
Speaker 3: new casts, see who's actually gonna be a star, and
Speaker 3: then bring him back for an All Stars, because then
Speaker 3: you'll get excited to see the people that you haven't
Speaker 3: seen for such a long time. Maybe we'll be able
Speaker 3: to cross over with some of the first forty seasons,
Speaker 3: but I'm happy to see new people right now.
Speaker 1: Survivor forty one fresh Blood has a nice ring to
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. I'd watch that. Okay, here's the big one.
Speaker 1: JD will start with you your opinion on this shorter season.
Speaker 1: This is I think actually huge and I want to
Speaker 1: unpack this with you guys. Now, Survivor usually thirty nine days.
Speaker 1: I mean, we got the thirty nine days. You know
Speaker 1: X people. Let's say twenty people one survivor, you'll get
Speaker 1: the epic Jeff Probe shot. Not this time, JD. We
Speaker 1: got twenty six days. That's it. They're cramming this in here.
Speaker 1: I would add that apparently they're getting fewer supplies. They're
Speaker 1: going to keep these tribes smaller throughout the season. I've
Speaker 1: read too, meaning that the players have sort of nowhere
Speaker 1: to hide. But the twenty six days. Are you worried
Speaker 1: about this at all? Are you like, yeah, bring it on.
Speaker 1: I mean this should just like ramp things up. What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my first my first thought was, oh, no,
Speaker 2: are there going to be less episodes because of the
Speaker 2: there's less time out there on the island. But I
Speaker 2: guess they could still do a full thirteen fourteen whatever
Speaker 2: they usually do, So there's that twenty six days is
Speaker 2: also when I think about it, if I'm going out
Speaker 2: on a beach for twenty six days with very little supplies,
Speaker 2: that is still a long time. I think these people
Speaker 2: are gonna suffer a lot while they're out there, and
Speaker 2: it just may make the game that much faster. It's
Speaker 2: more fast paced. I mean, I've said in the past
Speaker 2: before that the challenges kind of wash over me sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know, especially the reward challenges. I
Speaker 2: know that strategically who wins, and you know, you want
Speaker 2: immunity and all that, but the actual watching these things
Speaker 2: play out sometimes it's just like, okay, let's just let's
Speaker 2: just get to it. Very rarely am I on the
Speaker 2: edge of my sea going, oh my god, you know
Speaker 2: they won pizza great, you know, so you know so
Speaker 2: that that's right, That's where I am on it. So
Speaker 2: if there's less war challenge. I also the part of
Speaker 2: Survivor that I love the most is the scheming. It's
Speaker 2: after the challenges where everybody we see the shot of
Speaker 2: the snake and then we see everybody, you know, having
Speaker 2: their little discussions in the strategy and the chess starts.
Speaker 2: And that's what I like the chess game, the strategy.
Speaker 2: So hopefully, hopefully there's more of that. Usually in the past,
Speaker 2: when people are like they've got heat stroke or they're starving,
Speaker 2: I'm not that into watching people suffer like that, you know,
Speaker 2: like I don't like medical emergencies and stuff, So I'm
Speaker 2: hoping they don't make it too hard for them. But
Speaker 2: you do want it.
Speaker 1: To be hard. Does it like medical emergencies?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, I've read not about being hard though anymore. I
Speaker 3: don't think it doesn't feel like to me that Survivor
Speaker 3: is about the surviving the elements aspect anymore. And I
Speaker 3: don't think that's just because they're down to twenty six days.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the first couple of seasons, they
Speaker 3: would have the big episode, you know, we bring out
Speaker 3: the mirror. Guess how much weight you lost? Look how
Speaker 3: little food you have. Now they're getting opportunities to have
Speaker 3: stuff to eat. They've got a whole bunch of rice.
Speaker 3: Apparently they're going to get less rice here. But it's
Speaker 3: definitely more about playing the game rather than actually surviving, which,
Speaker 3: like JD is saying, that's the most exciting part. The
Speaker 3: thing I would hope doesn't get lost is having those
Speaker 3: off days where nothing's happening. I feel like you could
Speaker 3: easily talk yourself into people plotting against you, you know,
Speaker 3: like when you have a lot of downtime, and you're
Speaker 3: getting bored, you're able to talk yourself into I had
Speaker 3: known these people for three weeks. There's no way I
Speaker 3: should trust that guy, even if you have, even if
Speaker 3: you were trusting them yesterday. So maybe they lose a
Speaker 3: little bit of a paranoia time cutting out these extra days,
Speaker 3: but maybe that's counteracted by the fact that you got
Speaker 3: to make moves one after another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, Jason?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of agree with everything that JD and
Speaker 4: Trey said. I think that on the one hand, the
Speaker 4: show really appears to have made a move away from
Speaker 4: like the grueling like you against competitors, against the outdoors
Speaker 4: aspect of it. And I think part of that is,
Speaker 4: like bug bites just look disgusting and tally and and
Speaker 4: I think the other part of that is it's just
Speaker 4: kind of better TV if people aren't starving and passing
Speaker 4: out because they don't have enough rice or what have you.
Speaker 4: That said, I I do like that if they are
Speaker 4: going to cut back on supplies, that these reward challenges
Speaker 4: would maybe matter a little bit more and be integrated
Speaker 4: into like the kind of flow of play I'm always
Speaker 4: a fan of, like the they hit a clue or
Speaker 4: an idol or something inside the competition.
Speaker 2: I love that shit.
Speaker 4: I love when someone's got to sneak around and figure
Speaker 4: out how to get it in the midst of everybody.
Speaker 4: So maybe more of that during the reward competitions would
Speaker 4: be really cool. But and I but a thing that
Speaker 4: Trey said then and I hadn't really thought about, and
Speaker 4: I agree with, is that downtime you really see and
Speaker 4: when you read interviews with former survivors, they really talk
Speaker 4: about you don't understand how bored you are all the time.
Speaker 4: And I really think that that is an important aspect
Speaker 4: of what happens. You're just there turning your wheels, thinking
Speaker 4: about who's talking to, who went where, what's going on,
Speaker 4: And that is such an important, like subtle engine of
Speaker 4: the texture of survivor.
Speaker 2: And I hope they.
Speaker 4: Find a way to keep that going because you know,
Speaker 4: watching the broadcast, you take it for granted how little
Speaker 4: information they have and how much downtime they have, right,
Speaker 4: And so I hope that that continues. But all in all,
Speaker 4: excited to see what happens. But there's no there's no
Speaker 4: way around cutting thirteen days off of the competition like
Speaker 4: this is going to be a drastic change, and I'm
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine how it might impact the game
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know what the reason is? Is it? Are
Speaker 2: they I I've heard rumors that they tried to they
Speaker 2: were trying to squeeze three seasons into this one in
Speaker 2: this window of time. I don't know if that's true
Speaker 2: or not. Otherwise, is it COVID related or like, what
Speaker 2: is the thinking there? I'm I'm sure you guys don't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm just curious and asking out loud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. Could it even just be
Speaker 1: it's maybe easier to get some of these people that
Speaker 1: we want to come out for a little less time.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just spitballing here. It's a good
Speaker 1: you're basically asking for four weeks at that point, and
Speaker 1: not obviously.
Speaker 4: It feels like it must it must be COVID related.
Speaker 4: You would think that it's something about their ability to
Speaker 4: to record multiple seasons and move them down the pipeline
Speaker 4: and probably a shortened window, and well, you know, like
Speaker 4: if it works, fine, yea work move.
Speaker 2: Away from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I would approach this, like try it
Speaker 1: out and if you're happy with it and you got
Speaker 1: a great season, then yeah, go with twenty six again,
Speaker 1: like no one's gonna really care us as the viewers
Speaker 1: at home it like it shouldn't really matter because you're right, Jadi,
Speaker 1: we're still getting the same amount of episodes. It's just
Speaker 1: there's all that no downtime for the actual survivor contestants,
Speaker 1: which I agree with trade like maybe that's where some
Speaker 1: of the good stuff happens because they're in their brains,
Speaker 1: or even some silly moments I'm sure happened, but they're
Speaker 1: there doing production. Maybe they've just decided like, wow.
Speaker 2: They're just bored.
Speaker 1: This is like we're sort of wasting everybody's time. Like
Speaker 1: we could crank this up and accelerate this gameplay a
Speaker 1: little bit, so we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3: Somebody had a calendar once upon a time, right, like
Speaker 3: a calendar that they were marking off, and once that
Speaker 3: came out, everybody was like, what how are the days
Speaker 3: on this possibly working? Because it didn't make sense when
Speaker 3: the episodes would actually air compared to when the challenges
Speaker 3: were I don't know if this is accurate, but Wikipedia
Speaker 3: says that the reason it's twenty six days is that
Speaker 3: there is a fourteen day quarantine that cut into their productions. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: fourteen that's forty.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, makes sense. That does make some sense. This means,
Speaker 1: by the way, guys, let's just throw it in here now,
Speaker 1: we're not getting a loved one's visit, are we? They
Speaker 1: got to? Well, so what they got a quarantine? How
Speaker 1: would they even do that?
Speaker 2: I mean, right, it's your unemployed loved one. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: it's gonna it's gonna be a zoom meeting or something.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, we've done that before, way back in like
Speaker 1: the first couple of early seasons. I remember them doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have what was that?
Speaker 4: What was I forget the name of the device that
Speaker 4: was supposed to be like some competitors BlackBerry, but they
Speaker 4: did it on one of those like palm elf or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm drawing a blank on what it was actually called.
Speaker 1: It was something like that. You're right, You're right for sure?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then we had I remember like in Thailand, wasn't
Speaker 1: there the infamous they got videos from home and we
Speaker 1: saw Brian's wife was like showing off like their mansion
Speaker 1: and all their cars, and like I was like what
Speaker 1: I mean, he ends up winnings like it's didn't matter.
Speaker 1: But that was great. Okay, so we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: what they do with the love Onunes. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: big too, uh, And Jason, we'll start with your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this. This is from the CBS press release. Okay,
Speaker 1: quote for the first time host Jeff Propes will also
Speaker 1: take viewers inside the action.
Speaker 2: The game within a game.
Speaker 1: Addressing the audience directly throughout the season, even letting fans
Speaker 1: in on some twists before the players are made aware.
Speaker 1: So these are actually two different things. You joked about
Speaker 1: the game within the game. I think that's almost like
Speaker 1: a different thing where they're gonna like hide a bunch
Speaker 1: of puzzles in the season for kids to play at home,
Speaker 1: and like they can just become more survivor fans. But
Speaker 1: this thing about Jeff Propes breaking the fourth wall a
Speaker 1: little concerning if I'm being honest, But what's.
Speaker 4: Your honestly like a little concerning in the sense that
Speaker 4: we've got a shortened season. This, if I'm going to
Speaker 4: be completely like paranoid red flag about it, is smacks
Speaker 4: of we need to fill out, we need to pad
Speaker 4: out these episodes we're not getting enough. We've cut it
Speaker 4: down thirteen days, and we need content. Jeff, Can you
Speaker 4: just go direct to camera and talk to people? Now,
Speaker 4: maybe that's not the case, but I think it's on
Speaker 4: the table, and it is slightly concerning. Slightly concerning in
Speaker 4: the context of a shortened season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would add to that because of this accelerated gameplay.
Speaker 1: Is there any worry JD that Jeff Probes has to
Speaker 1: almost explain to us what the hell's going on because
Speaker 1: they need to fill in the blanks a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I don't like that if that's the case.
Speaker 2: I mean neither. I think that they have gotten really
Speaker 2: good at cutting away a lot of the fat, Like
Speaker 2: the last few seasons especially, it's just been a million
Speaker 2: miles an hour, you know, So I I now I'm
Speaker 2: worried Jason that. Yeah. The one thing that I want
Speaker 2: if he's going to do this, I want him to
Speaker 2: be in like a Hunger Games style control room, like
Speaker 2: Plutar Heavensby, you know, like, yeah, let's see what we're
Speaker 2: gonna do next, Shelter on fire like that.
Speaker 3: That's a good point, Like what is so confusing about
Speaker 3: Survivor that you could possibly need Jeff propes to explain
Speaker 3: it directly to you, because I mean even when they
Speaker 3: do this, like you know, uh, Kelly Wentworth right, was
Speaker 3: the first to get an idol at a challenge or
Speaker 3: something like that. And even then it's like she gets
Speaker 3: the clue she's reading about it, and then they kind
Speaker 3: of like flash forward to here's where it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: They light it up with a spot shadow and all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff like that could be very confusing
Speaker 3: if you were just hearing somebody talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but they're explaining it with the show here. This is
Speaker 3: this to me is a little bit too much talk
Speaker 3: show Jeff. Like when that guy sits down on a
Speaker 3: log next to a competitor, I'm like, fast forward. I
Speaker 3: want to hear Jeff at tribal console and I want
Speaker 3: to hear him singing people at challenges. I don't need
Speaker 3: him breaking everything down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It makes me think immediately of a was it
Speaker 1: Siree that got voted out even though she never got
Speaker 1: a vote because it was a bunch of like it
Speaker 1: was an idle armageddon, right, everybody's what.
Speaker 4: They call it, like idle train hashtag idle trainers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Propes literally comes on and does a breakdown of what
Speaker 1: the hell happened there, because it was in their defense,
Speaker 1: the mad confusing. It's like, what why is that? Why
Speaker 1: are we why is she gone? She didn't get a
Speaker 1: vote because of all these ties and stuff like that
Speaker 1: and all the idols? Will we get more of that?
Speaker 1: Because that was him explaining sort of this craziness that's happening,
Speaker 1: and that it was whiteboard. Yeah, he was like up
Speaker 1: a play and I actually liked it though that must
Speaker 1: have been that was a final that was the final episode,
Speaker 1: So that makes a little more sense. That's in front
Speaker 1: of a live studio audience and stuff like that. I think,
Speaker 1: if I remembering this correct that he was on stage
Speaker 1: there with the whiteboard breaking it down. But we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think it's I read this press release and it
Speaker 1: keeps saying like it's like Probes is gonna come on
Speaker 1: before a commercial break. I feel like and say, like,
Speaker 1: what do you think? You know, what do you think
Speaker 1: Joe's gonna do with that idol? Do you think he
Speaker 1: should play it or do you think he should not?
Speaker 1: We'll find out after the break. That's I don't know
Speaker 1: that's what I sort of think we might get, Jason,
Speaker 1: We'll see it a guess.
Speaker 4: Well, well, if it's that, that's relatively unobtrusive. But if
Speaker 4: it's like, man, we got to burn, we gotta fill
Speaker 4: time right now because we just don't have enough stuff,
Speaker 4: that's where I worry right right.
Speaker 1: As for the game within the game that Jason alluded to,
Speaker 1: I saw Mike Bloom, a fantastic Survivor writer and podcaster.
Speaker 1: He wrote quote each week will apparently feature a hidden
Speaker 1: Rebus puzzle in the episode that fans can spot and solve.
Speaker 1: Though it has no bearing on the game at hand,
Speaker 1: it allows fans and families who've been following the show
Speaker 1: for years to become players in their own right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get this is for the kids. Jeff Crows love
Speaker 1: the kids.
Speaker 2: He loves it for the kids.
Speaker 1: For the kids twelve years old, Are you.
Speaker 2: Twelve, are you twelve? Sixteen years old? You're watching right
Speaker 2: now at home with your parents.
Speaker 4: You love Survival, but you don't know how you're gonna
Speaker 4: be in it.
Speaker 2: We'll look up here. Wendell used to watch Survivor as.
Speaker 4: A kid, and now he's playing in the game.
Speaker 2: And you can do it too. Just ask your parents.
Speaker 2: If you can send us a table, we'll take a
Speaker 2: look at him inside, if you can be on Survival.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like it's almost having to like do
Speaker 1: the little math like equation JD. To then win the
Speaker 1: prize and in this case, do this little Rebus puzzle
Speaker 1: while you're watching Survivor. And you got it right, Hey,
Speaker 1: we might get you on the show. Any concern JD. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, look, well, your your son's at least
Speaker 1: Jackson love Survivor.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah he does. And that's the first thing I
Speaker 2: thought of it, Like, Okay, we're gonna play this, We're
Speaker 2: gonna try it out, and uh hey I love an
Speaker 2: Easter egg in a show. And that's what it sort
Speaker 2: of reeks. It reeks to me, like, is just here's
Speaker 2: this hidden thing. It's just it's a little wink to
Speaker 2: the audience. It's a little game that you can play
Speaker 2: at home. I'm fine with it as long as it
Speaker 2: doesn't intrude or with anything else that's happening on screen.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see. I'm always in naysayer. It's like, ah,
Speaker 2: this is gonna this is gonna be stupid. But then
Speaker 2: the Survivor always sort of comes around and they do
Speaker 2: a pretty good job of of these kakamamy schemes that
Speaker 2: they come up with, So I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful, So
Speaker 2: we'll see.
Speaker 1: Okay, try any any thoughts on this the game within
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for these puzzles, just looking forward to
Speaker 3: spot in a renus.
Speaker 1: I mean you said the hope it's like an easter egg,
Speaker 1: like it's on the tree in the background, or it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta pause your your show to catch it. It
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be like that's gonna be blatant. It is
Speaker 1: gonna be like you're gonna be knocked over the head
Speaker 1: with it, because I mean it's also for kids, right,
Speaker 1: so it's like if the whole idea is for a kid,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, here's the puzzle, I assume, and
Speaker 1: we'll see, Hey, look we're gonna be doing it on
Speaker 1: no buffs regardless who's gonna figure out the puzzle fastest,
Speaker 1: So that'll at least give us some content, all right,
Speaker 1: final like sort of thing you need to know about
Speaker 1: this season. I probably bury the lead. If I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: I should have flipped these around. This is the first
Speaker 1: season of Survivor to be cast under CBS's new reality
Speaker 1: show casting mandate, which has resulted in a more racially
Speaker 1: diverse cast, and we will get to showing you the
Speaker 1: cast and again making our picks. This is awesome. This
Speaker 1: is just cool to see the photo of all the
Speaker 1: Survivor contestants, which Jadi, I think you have and you
Speaker 1: can throw up, but it is pretty cool. I assume
Speaker 1: everyone's going to agree to have more people of color, Jason,
Speaker 1: because there usually is like one, two or maybe three,
Speaker 1: and there is a lot more of this season.
Speaker 2: Survivor has been good.
Speaker 4: I think pretty uh, pretty solid with it over the
Speaker 4: last several seasons. But it's great to see. This is
Speaker 4: surely uh probably more of a Big Brother mandate than
Speaker 4: a Survivor mandate, but but I'm glad to see it,
Speaker 4: and it should make for some uh you know, satisfying
Speaker 4: viewing for the people at home who get to see
Speaker 4: themselves reflecting in a Survivor contestint The.
Speaker 1: Cast also, when you go through the breakdown, tray seems
Speaker 1: to tip slightly older than a typical season, only six
Speaker 1: people in their twenties and then we got three in
Speaker 1: their fifties. I also got a couple of people from Canada,
Speaker 1: which is nice. I think there's a there's two Canadians
Speaker 1: in the bunch.
Speaker 2: It's important, important representation, I think, thank.
Speaker 1: You, but Trey, Yeah, any thoughts on sort of first impressions,
Speaker 1: I guess of what they've casted here for surviving for
Speaker 1: you one.
Speaker 3: I love it. You got to have a mix of people,
Speaker 3: and you got to have a of ages, because it's
Speaker 3: so common that it's like, you know, all of the
Speaker 3: twenty year old bros show up and they're like, well,
Speaker 3: we're all twenty year old bros. We're together for the
Speaker 3: entirety here. Wait what if the women join up? Not
Speaker 3: an all girls alliance? Yucky? Yeah, so yeah, I'm totally
Speaker 3: for you know, there's more life experience to the people
Speaker 3: who are in their fifties. It's very funny to read
Speaker 3: the bios from the twenty year olds here who are very,
Speaker 3: very proud of what they accomplished in high school, and
Speaker 3: then the you know, the thirty five year olds are like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a neurosurgeon. It's a little different than winning state
Speaker 3: in high school track. I mean, kudos to you, but
Speaker 3: being a neurosurgeon. You've accomplished some things and seen some things,
Speaker 3: and it just gives us a chance to see more
Speaker 3: sort of odd couple pairings, like nobody would have picked
Speaker 3: Malcolm and Denise to be one of the best twosomes
Speaker 3: in Survivor history, but once they finally started working together,
Speaker 3: they were a great pairing. Dominic and Wendell were a
Speaker 3: great parent, like, yeah, no doubt. It's like, you're gonna
Speaker 3: see these people finding like minded contestants out there that
Speaker 3: you wouldn't expect, and I think that's gonna be something
Speaker 3: that's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, JD.
Speaker 2: Anythink to add to this, Yeah, you guys summed it
Speaker 2: up perfectly. It's just great to see. It's great that
Speaker 2: there's going to be new types of people, new personalities,
Speaker 2: new new gameplay. I think we're gonna see out of this,
Speaker 2: so I'm yeah, I'm excited for it. The Kaslok's awesome.
Speaker 1: It does. It does when, especially when you start going
Speaker 1: through it. Are you a fan like JD of returning seasons,
Speaker 1: like returning player seasons like where we get the Legends
Speaker 1: coming back? Do you think they're they're generally better than
Speaker 1: new cast seasons or are you a fan of Like, no,
Speaker 1: come on, you gotta get sober forty one fresh blood
Speaker 1: in the mix. What do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean? I do love returning players for sure. I'm
Speaker 2: also one of these people where whenever Survivor, the season
Speaker 2: of Survivor ends, it's gone from my brain completely, you know,
Speaker 2: like that's right. I had to go back and look
Speaker 2: do some research for this. It's like, oh, yeah, that happened,
Speaker 2: Oh that guy, you know. And and when oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that woman comes back, it's just like it's just like
Speaker 2: she never left, you know. And then so I do
Speaker 2: enjoy that, But I also love a fresh a whole
Speaker 2: new fresh cast. Is this is just so refreshing, and
Speaker 2: especially after last season which I loved Winners at War,
Speaker 2: but this is just all brand new and we'll get
Speaker 2: into it. But all of these people are die hard
Speaker 2: Survivor freaks, like they just seem to know the game,
Speaker 2: most of them anyways. Yeah, so that's when they know
Speaker 2: the game and they know the history and they know
Speaker 2: this the strategies and what's worked before, what hasn't worked before.
Speaker 2: It just makes for much more entertaining strategic season, which
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's do it this. We have one more
Speaker 1: break to take, but let's get everybody's contestant that intrigues
Speaker 1: them the most. Okay, I'm not asking you who you
Speaker 1: think is gonna win. I'm not asking you who's gonna
Speaker 1: get booted first, who's gonna be the start of the season.
Speaker 1: I'll save those for after the break. But in the
Speaker 1: eighteen players we got here, Jason who And I don't
Speaker 1: know how much research you did, by the way, like,
Speaker 1: did you do.
Speaker 2: A deep dive? I mean I'm in a fantasy league.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, let me just say it's impossible.
Speaker 2: It's impossible.
Speaker 4: It's impossible to scout these folks in the same way
Speaker 4: that you would scout NBA players, NFL players, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But gosh, I okay, so not the person that I
Speaker 4: would like to win, or yeah, just.
Speaker 1: Like someone that jumped off the page to you or
Speaker 1: the video or whatever that you're like, oh, okay, that
Speaker 1: could be an interesting survivor character.
Speaker 4: You know you mentioned him. I'm gonna say David the neurosurgeon.
Speaker 4: He listed as his like comp Russell, which always concerns
Speaker 4: me when people, yeah, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: it's like, is Russell a legend. Sure, did Russell make
Speaker 4: multiple final travels? Yeah? Does Russell have a gaping hole
Speaker 4: in his game that speaks to what actually the game
Speaker 4: is a social game and that you don't try to
Speaker 4: play that aspect of it. Yes, So it's weird to
Speaker 4: me to be like, Oh, I love Russell. Is like
Speaker 4: one of the most incomplete players ever in Survivor history ever,
Speaker 4: Like if he could figure out how to build alliances,
Speaker 4: he'd win. So I'm gonna say I'm gonna go with
Speaker 4: David because I'm really fascinated when people say that they
Speaker 4: love Russell and they want to play like him, and
Speaker 4: I'm I'm interested to see what that looks like in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, JD who jumped off the screen
Speaker 1: or the page for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see what happens with Jeanie Chen.
Speaker 2: She's okay, the Portland grocery clerk. And I believe that
Speaker 2: she said that her the only thing on her bucket
Speaker 2: list is to play and Survivor. She doesn't care about
Speaker 2: traveling the world or anything. She just wants to play Survivor.
Speaker 2: And and she just seems like all rainbows coming out
Speaker 2: of her eyes, you know, like she's so like a
Speaker 2: positive person, but I feel like when she gets out there,
Speaker 2: she might It's like the Mike Tyson. Everybody's got a
Speaker 2: plan until they get punched in the face, and I
Speaker 2: feel like that might happen to Geenie because I don't
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It's just as you say, Jason,
Speaker 2: like it's so hard to tell. But I I'm hoping
Speaker 2: for an Aubrey's style journey for a Genie because you know,
Speaker 2: I think that it'll be overwhelming at first, but I
Speaker 2: think I'm hoping that she falls into a groove and
Speaker 2: I just I just loved her energy and the one
Speaker 2: minute thing that I watched her in. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how Genie does. I'm rooting for
Speaker 2: it for sure.
Speaker 1: That that could be. I mean, we've seen it multiple times.
Speaker 1: You said Aubrey, I would say Cochrane, David, like the
Speaker 1: they get out there.
Speaker 2: And like what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, even Suri, maybe even a little bit like what
Speaker 1: have I gotten myself into? And New York for sure,
Speaker 1: But then the story, as the story goes, they get
Speaker 1: a little more comfortable and they find their footing and
Speaker 1: they go pretty far and become Usually they become pretty
Speaker 1: iconic characters or a people at least that cheer for them. So, okay,
Speaker 1: Genie the forty six year old grocery clerk from Portland, Okay, Trey,
Speaker 1: what about you? Most intriguing is the question here.
Speaker 3: I've also got Genie very high on my list because
Speaker 3: her answer to what is a notable accomplishment you've had?
Speaker 3: Is I got the Hustle Award one year at basketball
Speaker 3: camp when I was fifteen years old. What an answer?
Speaker 3: As back, I was putting in work, I was taking charges,
Speaker 3: I was boxing out on the regular at fifteen. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I hope she does well. And I'm also excited to
Speaker 3: see Evy, who is the first non binary contestant on
Speaker 3: Survivor using they pronouns. If I'm not mistaken. They say
Speaker 3: that their pet peeve is straight up men, and after
Speaker 3: the way that some things have happened in Survivor recently,
Speaker 3: there are going to be some opportunities for them to
Speaker 3: speak out, so I think that will be certainly interesting.
Speaker 3: And they seem to be a pretty charismatic person in
Speaker 3: the first place, so I think Hebby's gonna do pretty well.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our final break. But when
Speaker 1: we come back, I mean, it's damn near impossible as
Speaker 1: we said, but we're gonna try and predict first boot,
Speaker 1: who becomes the real star basically meaning who's coming back
Speaker 1: for sure and who is the sole survivor of Survivor
Speaker 1: forty one. One more break, Let's get some pringles.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 1: Okay, back with no buffs. Now, we're not gonna go
Speaker 1: through every single person here on the cast. That seems
Speaker 1: a little overboarder for being honest here, we're already running
Speaker 1: an hour ten in here, so we'll show you everybody
Speaker 1: if you're joining us on YouTube, so you have an idea.
Speaker 1: We got three tribes JD. You can chuck them up here.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna butcher how you say these tribe names.
Speaker 1: This one is the Luvu tribe. Hopefully I said that one. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love you, uh love to love to love you,
Speaker 1: love you, love you. The next one, I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to start by pronouncing it. It's ah ula, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. And then and then we've got the
Speaker 1: Yase tribe. So they're Fijian words for flood, wave and lightning, respectively.
Speaker 1: So you've seen the people. There's eighteen people. I want
Speaker 1: you guys to somehow tell me who's gonna be the
Speaker 1: first boot of the season? All right, Wednesday nights the
Speaker 1: premiere Jason, Who's going home?
Speaker 2: Gosh?
Speaker 4: Okay, So when I was going through my Fantasy League picks,
Speaker 4: there's again there's not a lot to go on. But
Speaker 4: one of the things I did go on is that
Speaker 4: sweet spot is about twenty five to win the whole
Speaker 4: thing and stick around young.
Speaker 2: Younger people don't tend to do that well.
Speaker 4: Similarly, over fifty, they may stick around for a while,
Speaker 4: but they very rarely win. I'm going to say somebody young,
Speaker 4: and so I'm going to go with Gosh.
Speaker 2: It's really hard, you know why.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, how how difficult this is. We don't
Speaker 1: know which tribe is going to be.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go I'm gonna go with Xander, twenty
Speaker 4: one years old, off of nothing other than he is.
Speaker 4: He's a young guy, and maybe he'll rub people the
Speaker 4: wrong way and he'll be seen as a and see
Speaker 4: maybe seen as a physical threat. So let's get him out.
Speaker 4: I think that Xander from the Ya tribe.
Speaker 1: That's right, the long locks, right, there over on the
Speaker 1: left if you're joining us on YouTube. Okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: going with the young guy.
Speaker 2: And the Uh.
Speaker 1: I could see this tribe losing, I'll be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep it up, Keep it up, Janey. I've actually
Speaker 3: got somebody from this tribe as well.
Speaker 2: Right, and so you so who's next? What did you
Speaker 2: want from me?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, let's go. Let try. Uh, we'll do We'll do
Speaker 1: it one out of time for everybody. So, Trey, who
Speaker 1: do you got going to first? P Oh, Tiffany front middle?
Speaker 3: Sorry? Yeah, yeah, she said three words to describe myself funny, loving, loud, loud.
Speaker 3: And that's when I said, oh, you're gonna be the
Speaker 3: first one going home if you're Boston. People around my
Speaker 3: man Xander does not want to hear it. And I mean,
Speaker 3: once you put this picture up, I kind of agree
Speaker 3: this uh doesn't look like they might be competing in
Speaker 3: the most physical challenges. Who knows it always.
Speaker 1: Comes down to a puzzle, right from queens.
Speaker 4: So I feel like I know the loudness of which
Speaker 4: you speak, right, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a teacher, I believe, Yeah, is there right?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 1: Okay, we got a Xander and a Tiffany j D.
Speaker 1: Where are you going for this one? First boot?
Speaker 2: The Tiffany high on my list for the exact same reason.
Speaker 2: Trade Also the teacher thing with so many young people.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're on her tribe, but young
Speaker 2: people in college they don't want to be bossed around
Speaker 2: by an elementary school teacher. I think she's elementary school.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. But if you're loud and your teacher
Speaker 2: and your bossy. There's another guy I can't remember which one,
Speaker 2: who's a professor, who I think might be in trouble
Speaker 2: for the same reason, like I think his wife said,
Speaker 2: don't don't be yourself, you know, don't just don't explain
Speaker 2: things to people you know like. But second on my list,
Speaker 2: I believe. Let me see, on the Luvu tribe, it's
Speaker 2: Sydney Sidney Siegel. She is the from the left to
Speaker 2: the third in from the left, Okay, back there, reason
Speaker 2: being I heard her talking in her little blurb just
Speaker 2: when she referred to herself as sexy. I don't like that.
Speaker 2: You know, it may be true, but I don't like it,
Speaker 2: and that things come easy to me and my parents
Speaker 2: have given me such a huge opinion of myself, and
Speaker 2: I think that could be very problematic on a on
Speaker 2: a tribe, uh, you know, just because it's it'll just
Speaker 2: be annoying. That said, looking at this tribe, I don't
Speaker 2: think they're going to lose the first challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you got this is the tribe with
Speaker 1: the NFL player. Yeah, they're in Danny McCrae. But you
Speaker 1: never know, we don't know what what it is. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of the time, like I said, it
Speaker 1: ends in a puzzle and it's like whoever just pooches that. Uh,
Speaker 1: they'll be going to travel console. Okay, you got to
Speaker 1: go back to the Ya tribe for me. Guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not Pickensander and I'm not picking Tiffany.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be David the neurosurgeon. I think
Speaker 1: he as I assume a very intelligent guy, may not
Speaker 1: be the best people person and maybe getting a little bossy.
Speaker 1: Because here's the other thing, right, not only do you
Speaker 1: have to lose a challenge probably to to get there
Speaker 1: to them be voted out, but we're talking like from
Speaker 1: day one on Survivor, we're building. We're building our shelter
Speaker 1: where we got to get our things all in order, like,
Speaker 1: you know, who's in charge of this, and you get
Speaker 1: those bossy people that are really good in real life
Speaker 1: and in the profession, and they're you know, they they
Speaker 1: got to where they are for a reason. But that
Speaker 1: can backfire very easily on Survivor. So I just think
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, throwing a dart at the dartboard
Speaker 1: here and saying, David is is the first one out?
Speaker 2: Just looking at this fiction or trying to judge, trying
Speaker 2: to gauge the energy between David and Tiffany. I I
Speaker 2: want to say, there's there's some friction.
Speaker 4: There, you know, shades shades of another David, David Sampson,
Speaker 4: who is the Marlins that was the first booting Cabby
Speaker 4: on very similar dynamic. This extremely high achieving person, super smart,
Speaker 4: used to running an organization.
Speaker 2: Drive it with immediately first on the block, goodbye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see Okay.
Speaker 3: So a lot of somebodies say to him, it's not
Speaker 3: brain surgery, David. Yeah, we're just voting here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's got to be an episode titled It's not
Speaker 2: brain surgery or you can book that.
Speaker 1: Okay. As we start to wrap this up, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna jam these two together, so you can give me
Speaker 1: two names if you really want to. We're looking for
Speaker 1: the season star, Like, who do you think is gonna
Speaker 1: come out of this as like a fan favorite? And
Speaker 1: maybe that's also the winner. So if you only have
Speaker 1: an answer to the one of them, I mean, we
Speaker 1: need a winner, but you can also give me a
Speaker 1: season star, Jason, how about it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go for star. I'm gonna go with Erica
Speaker 4: Casupanan based on nothing other than Casupan's a Filipino, a
Speaker 4: very common name in the Philippines, and I think therefore
Speaker 4: I'm going to assume that she's Filipino, and therefore I'm
Speaker 4: pulling for her.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: She's from Toronto too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked her.
Speaker 4: I liked her little bio as well, and she seems
Speaker 4: like a charming and a high achieving, highly energetic person.
Speaker 4: For the winner, I'm gonna go with Richard Foy. He
Speaker 4: is the flight attendant thirty nine years old from Lyndwood, Washington,
Speaker 4: And I just feel like that profession means you're watching
Speaker 4: people all the time, You're catching vibes, You're seeing who's happy,
Speaker 4: who's unhappy, who's anxious, who needs something.
Speaker 2: You're used to being.
Speaker 4: In observation mode, and I think that's going to serve
Speaker 4: him very well, and so that listen again, it's so
Speaker 4: hard to know who's going to win from this stage,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Pick Richard, Okay. I feel like he's going to give
Speaker 1: some banger confessionals too, Like you like, as a flight attendant,
Speaker 1: you can only imagine like they're incredible at like they're
Speaker 1: helping people, they're serving people, they're getting attitude from people,
Speaker 1: and then they go to the back or to the
Speaker 1: front of the plane, like can you believe that dickhead
Speaker 1: in sixteen with the big forehead and will stop sweat
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I'm I'm I'm obviously uh stereotyping
Speaker 1: of flight attendant that they do that.
Speaker 2: But I just.
Speaker 1: Got a good vibe that he's gonna like drop angers
Speaker 1: in confessionals. I like that pick. But you're going for
Speaker 1: him as a winner, which is known for him to win.
Speaker 1: It's very very bold. Will throw him up here. I
Speaker 1: believe I have the right tread yep, oh I do,
Speaker 1: I do? Okay, great, Yeah, there is in the green
Speaker 1: tank top repping for looking like dominic Toretto there in
Speaker 1: the green tank top. To bring it back to that's Prue. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh JD. Let's go to you next as we take
Speaker 1: this down again, someone you're either cheering for and then
Speaker 1: who you think gonna win this thing?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm uh it's I'm cheering for both of
Speaker 2: these people. To show who I think is going to
Speaker 2: be a star. I don't even let me see here
Speaker 2: at the tribe. It's Sarah Wilson, who I believe is
Speaker 2: in the uh right, the left, first woman to the left.
Speaker 1: Okay, what we want to do a front rows.
Speaker 2: She is a long distance swimmer, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm partial to swimmers. I swimmer myself, and just you know,
Speaker 2: to be a long distance swimmer, you have to have endurance,
Speaker 2: you have to have some stamina also graduated mit. So
Speaker 2: I just have a good feeling about her. You know,
Speaker 2: she's young, but I think she's smart, and she just
Speaker 2: she's I think she's tougher than she looks. So I
Speaker 2: think she was is going to emerge as a star
Speaker 2: of this game and the winner of the game. I
Speaker 2: think it's on the She's on the same tribe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Shan tell Smith right next to her, she is the
Speaker 2: Canadian pastor. She's just had a rough life basically, so
Speaker 2: I think she's tough as nails as well. She was
Speaker 2: in a gang apparently, so I think she is not
Speaker 2: to be try filled with uh and listening to her talk,
Speaker 2: I think she can read people, and I just think
Speaker 2: she's gonna be good. I don't. I think she's going
Speaker 2: all the way. And it's a total homer pick because
Speaker 2: you know she's She's Canadians, so I always want to
Speaker 2: pick somebody who I want to root for. But I'm
Speaker 2: I'm very very high on Ricard as well. Uh I.
Speaker 2: One of my best friends is a is a gay
Speaker 2: guy as well who worked as a flight attendant and
Speaker 2: skis you are one hundred percent right. Lots of hilarious
Speaker 2: confessionals I think coming our way when I'm really looking
Speaker 2: forward to that. But honestly, he's he seems so charming
Speaker 2: that I think he might be a threat, and I
Speaker 2: think he's not going to make it to the end.
Speaker 2: I think people are going to be wise to that.
Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Look, hey, we
Speaker 1: need to say this. We haven't had a female winner
Speaker 1: since thirty four game showers Sarah. Yeah, we are on
Speaker 1: a crazy male run here with Ben Wendell. Show it
Speaker 1: to Wendell, our guy Nick Chris coming back from Edge
Speaker 1: of Extinction playing eight Hours Survivor and winning Tommy and
Speaker 1: then then and then Tony. Uh for a second time.
Speaker 1: That's six straight male winners, So Trey to do they
Speaker 1: make it seven? Or is a woman going to win
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: I can't believe y'all took my two picks. I was
Speaker 3: gonna go with Ricard or Shan as my backup pick.
Speaker 3: So I think those ones are solid ones. If I'm
Speaker 3: giving a little variety here, let me toss a vote
Speaker 3: for Deshaun Radden on the Louvu Tribe, a twenty six
Speaker 3: year old medical student. He's coming in with his own nickname.
Speaker 3: He's gonna call himself Devious d Rad, which I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's gonna go over well, uh, the Devious
Speaker 3: d Rad. But you can tell he's ready to play,
Speaker 3: and that's exciting. So at the very least he's got
Speaker 3: to be trying hard. If I were going for a
Speaker 3: straight up winter pick, gimme Rickard.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: I love a prematurely graying man with a Ponytail bat
Speaker 3: and I think Ebby's gonna take home that sea of
Speaker 3: money at the end of things. Than that's my family.
Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Is that an official thing? Did
Speaker 2: she do that every time?
Speaker 1: I think she's got a good run going. They used
Speaker 1: to do it on the show, and I know they stopped,
Speaker 1: like announced a year and a half away.
Speaker 3: She's gonna skip this one, no chance.
Speaker 2: Come on, no chance.
Speaker 4: There is honestly one of the craziest and weirdest and
Speaker 4: most fun things in TV histories. That see is just
Speaker 4: like I like this show a lot. I'm going to
Speaker 4: give somebody money everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: Like that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like it was going to be a
Speaker 3: one time thing, right because I think it was. Tye
Speaker 3: was the first one, and yeah, apparently does a lot
Speaker 3: of work with animals, and Tye was obviously had a
Speaker 3: relationship with Mark the Chicken.
Speaker 4: Save Some Lives, Save Some Animal Lives season.
Speaker 3: No, but see us like it was good one time,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be good every single time from here
Speaker 3: on out. Sometimes she even gives money to more than
Speaker 3: one contestant, right, Yeah, she's splitting before messing around.
Speaker 1: Okay, my winner or I think will be a star.
Speaker 1: I guess sort of go hand in hand. I'll pick
Speaker 1: him as my winner. I mean, it's impossible. I hear you, Jason.
Speaker 1: You said like a young young person doesn't generally win
Speaker 1: this game. That's true, But we got three twenty year
Speaker 1: olds here. I'm going with Jerryus Robinson, who is a
Speaker 1: twenty year old college student from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I
Speaker 1: believe he is on the the UA tribe there, he's
Speaker 1: in the middle there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I in watching his videos, great energy, seems like just
Speaker 1: a really fun guy to be around, and I think
Speaker 1: that will keep him around.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: He looks like he could be a physical threat, so
Speaker 1: maybe that backfires on him as the as the show
Speaker 1: goes on. But I'm gonna be I'm gonna be cheering
Speaker 1: for him. I just great smile too, just lights up
Speaker 1: the camera there and in any of his little talking
Speaker 1: videos that we saw heading into this. So go go
Speaker 1: to Robinson, go get it done.
Speaker 3: Twenty has also been wearing Puka shells and a lot
Speaker 3: of his promo shops.
Speaker 1: I like this guy.
Speaker 3: This guy's running for the island, goes.
Speaker 2: By JD too, So he's gotta be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh wow, he doesn't go by JD apparently. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: there you go. Oh my god, we' we cheered for
Speaker 1: a JD here on Survivor forty one. All right, there
Speaker 1: it is, guys, let's call it there. Well, hold on, okay, Jason,
Speaker 1: you said you were in a Survivor pool already. But
Speaker 1: but what I need to know now is, yes, are
Speaker 1: we gonna I mean, we got to do something here
Speaker 1: on No Buffs. Maybe we just uh maybe offline, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll pick a I think we pick a man and
Speaker 1: a woman each, Okay, and then or or you know,
Speaker 1: if he's in play, of course, we pick two people.
Speaker 1: Let's just make it two people. Yeah, we don't need
Speaker 1: to pick a man. We pick two people. Like it
Speaker 1: longest combined tenure for your two people, you know, win
Speaker 1: something or everybody else has to chip in, give money
Speaker 1: to charity or something like that. All right, Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're doing something. We'll figure it off offline. We'll keep
Speaker 1: you guys longer than we need to love it. Very
Speaker 1: excited for this reminder, we're pushing you guys to subscribe
Speaker 1: to No Buffs, the new YouTube channel and the new
Speaker 1: podcast feed. Just search for No Buffs on Apple and
Speaker 1: we're working on Spotify. It'll hopefully be there soon. It's
Speaker 1: already up there on YouTube, so go subscribe if you're
Speaker 1: a Survivor fan and you want to be following No
Speaker 1: Bus all season long. Here. As I said, Jason is
Speaker 1: going to be with us every single episode. In fact,
Speaker 1: Jason's gonna be with us more episodes than Trey and I.
Speaker 2: Because oh my god, that is the key. That is
Speaker 2: a weird thing that happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll peel back the curtain. Tray and I,
Speaker 1: along with our wives and a couple of their friends,
Speaker 1: we booked a trip to an island. By the way.
Speaker 1: We're doing our own Survivor here months ago and it's
Speaker 1: finally coming up here. Before of course, we knew the
Speaker 1: Survivor schedule, so we're gonna miss episode one break down,
Speaker 1: the recount. It's okay, it's in good. Are we or
Speaker 1: are we watch it on vacation? Buddy, Well, we might
Speaker 1: watch it. I don't know how we're gonna call in.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's to be happening. But anyway, we
Speaker 1: got Jason, we got JD. I think Task is actually
Speaker 1: gonna gonna fill in.
Speaker 2: You know, Testy will definitely be joining us. So that
Speaker 2: seems pretty pumped about it too, so so look forward
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: Jason, Okay, that's great. So that'll be coming out on
Speaker 1: Thursday again around five thirty pm Eastern time two thirty Pacific.
Speaker 1: We'll be waiting a day or the next day after
Speaker 1: at premieres there on Wednesday night Survivor. So that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Email or tweet at us any screen grabs, observations, questions,
Speaker 1: you have no dunks inc By way of Twitter. It's
Speaker 1: probably just the easiest way to do it, but if
Speaker 1: you want to email them in no dunks at the
Speaker 1: Athletic dot com. And again we'll be back here well, Jason,
Speaker 1: JD and task will be back on Thursday afternoon. We'll
Speaker 1: get it up as soon as humanly possible, will of
Speaker 1: course be live on YouTube. I can't wait, guys. I'm
Speaker 1: super pumped about this. I was just geeking out for
Speaker 1: the last ninety minutes talking about old Survivor seasons and
Speaker 1: then this Survivor forty one with you guys, so I'm
Speaker 1: super excited. I'll end with this. I saw Probes say
Speaker 1: this to again Mike Bloom their Parade magazine. He says quote,
Speaker 1: this is Jeff Probes. I'll say it right now. If
Speaker 1: you have never watched an episode of Survivor, just watch
Speaker 1: the premiere of Survivor forty one, and if you don't
Speaker 1: get hooked, blast me on Twitter for wasting your time.
Speaker 2: Bold, bold stuff, incredible.
Speaker 1: So now is a good time to get in. Make
Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to No Buss. Guys, have a great
Speaker 1: show on Thursday, and we'll see you a week following that.
Speaker 1: The tribe is spoken