1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, uh. You know what laws just don't work? 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Are the ones that say don't do drugs? Yeah, that's 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: one of them. Yes, yeah, yeah, And like the idea 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: of consuming alcohol when it was illegal in the US 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: for a short time. Alcohol, of course, is illegal in 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: many countries in the modern day. But there was a 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: there was a great quote years and years back during 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the prohibition era where someone said people will vote for 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: prohibition as long as they can still stagger to the polls. Oh, 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: I want to say that quote is in this episode? 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: Do you think it? Maybe? It may well be because 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: this is a blast from the past. Can you believe 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: how long ago that was when we looked into conspiracies 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: surrounding prohibition. Prohibition being the law, the genre of laws 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: that say one cannot consume a given substance, whether that's 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: alcohol right has happened in the States or whether it's 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: marijuana right would be one of the newer, newer prohibition conversations. 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: And as we go through this episode, we'll all learn 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: that all prohibition really does is allow small groups of 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: it's very smart and organized people to figure out how 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: to break those laws without getting caught, and sometimes getting caught, 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: but black markets are created. That's really what you get. 23 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: So hey, let's dive in in uh not drink to 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: this one from UFOs two Ghosts and Government cover Ups. 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: History is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: now or learn the stuff they don't want you to now, 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: and with that we are back. My name is Matt 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: and Ian Ben and this is stuff they don't want 29 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: you to know. That's right. If you are looking for 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: this podcast, you are in the right place. It is 31 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: still legal, ladies and gentlemen, UH to manufacture, import, sell, 32 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: or distribute. UH. This podcast also like to UH give 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: an introduction here as always? Who are super producer? Noell 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: on the ones and twos, it is still he's there. 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: He's also on the threes. He's on several numbers. It's 36 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: also still legal for him to manufacture, produce, import, and 37 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: export UH podcast. That's correct. You know, it's interesting how 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the control of things like ideas, things that you can 39 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: put into your body. It's weird the way governments and 40 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: states and other entities try to control what you can 41 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: do with your own body. And it's strange too because 42 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: what we see is that there are so many laws 43 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: prohibiting certain things. There are very few laws in comparison 44 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: that mandate certain things, right, absolutely, and uh, the idea 45 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: of prohibition, ladies and gentlemen, is what we are talking 46 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: about today. It's what we've been spending the whole week 47 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: on and we found some crazy stuff. Oh yes, we did, 48 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: so let's get started. What is prohibition, Well, it's essentially 49 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: the act of forbidding something anything. Really, It's usually used 50 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: in a legal context, and it doesn't just have to 51 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: apply to something like an alcohol or a drug. That 52 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: would include things like certain dress codes that that are 53 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: worn for religion okay, yeah, or even for legal purposes 54 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: or private businesses. The old no shirt, no shoes, no service. 55 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: They are prohibiting your nudity, that's right. Uh. In the 56 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: United States, the word prohibition has a very specific meaning. Though. 57 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: When we say prohibition, we're not talking about being prohibited 58 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: from walking on the grass or smoking cigarettes by hospital. 59 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: We're talking specifically about an era in the United States 60 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: history where Congress changed the Constitution UH to ban specifically 61 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: one type of substance. This is the eighteenth Amendment and 62 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: will read just a small part here, prohibiting the manufacturer, sale, 63 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: or transportation of intoxicating liquors within the importation they're open 64 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: to or the exportation there are from the United States 65 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: an all territory subject to the jurisdiction, there are for 66 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: beverage purposes. Interestingly enough, you will notice that this law 67 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: does a couple of things in it omits a couple 68 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: of things because it does say that you cannot make 69 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: and cannot sell and you cannot transport alcohol, but it 70 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: doesn't say you can't consume alcohol. That's right. And we 71 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: found some weird things too. There were some bluepholes. If 72 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: you already own some booze when this went into effect, 73 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: then you got to keep it. Doctors could legally prescribe 74 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: whiskey at a pharmacy, which led to a whole other 75 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: cana badgers. Well, yeah, that was a whole another thing. 76 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Where do you get the whiskey then? Right? Yeah, which 77 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: reminds me of resurrection men, where it's you where it's 78 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: legal to experiment on human corpses, but it's not legal 79 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: to buy human corps Uh. So yeah, let's get back 80 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: to prohibition yet. So, just for some context, the Senate 81 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: and the House of the United States, the House of Representatives, 82 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: they both passed resolutions for this Amendment in nineteen seventeen. 83 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Then it was ratified in nineteen nineteen and officially went 84 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: into effect in nineteen twenty. That's right, January seventeenth, which 85 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: means it happened this week. It's the anniversary of prohibition. 86 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: That's so weird. It is weird, isn't it. Time is 87 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: weird and history is weird. And no offense to the 88 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: teetotalers in the crowd, but the advocates of alcohol prohibition 89 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: in the United States were very strangely motivated. They were 90 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: not so much motivated by fact as they were motivated 91 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: by ideology. So here's what they said. They said that 92 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: alcohol would lead us to a dystopian world, that there 93 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: would be rampant crime, everybody would be an alcoholic, and 94 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: there would be dissipating moral character. Now one ugly truth 95 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: about the code word or in politics they called a 96 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: dog whistle like moral character used in the nineteen twenties. 97 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: It means objecting to stuff like interracial relationships, or like 98 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: women having too many rights and things like that. So 99 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: moral character is not exactly what we would associate with 100 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: good a good morality today, right. Yeah, And they thought 101 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: if they banned alcohol they could basically save the world, 102 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: or at least the United States, that you bring all 103 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: kinds of sweeping changes, just basically saving the nation, increasing 104 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: the economy, and guaranteeing that public safety would be upheld. 105 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: And they were so wrong. In our video that came 106 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: out this week, we uh, we did a law called 107 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: three Ways Prohibition shaped America, and we talked about some 108 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: of the unintended effects of this policy. Yeah, that's right. 109 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: We went over a lot of the same stuff, but 110 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I would highly recommend watching the video just to get 111 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: more of the details. Sure, Yeah, and the ways in 112 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: which the effects of this policy completely contradicted the predicted effects. Right, So, 113 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: how has if that's prohibition, that's prohibition the United States? 114 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: This prohibition is the word, How has prohibition been practiced? 115 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: So one thing we know is that prohibition of one 116 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: sort or another occurs all over the world in virtually 117 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: every country. And uh, some countries have harsher penalties. Uh 118 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: in some places of Southeast Asia. If you are caught 119 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: smuggling drugs a lot basically a Schedule one drug, right 120 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: equivalent of such, you're gonna get some intense prison sentences 121 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: and in sometimes the death penalty. Yeah, and some countries 122 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: practice a prohibition so severe their interpretation of it is 123 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: so severe that, for example, I believe it's Japan, you 124 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: can have trouble getting a visa if you have a 125 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: past conviction for some drugs I think, like in marijuana specifically. 126 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Then there are also, of course prohibitions as you mentioned, 127 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: on certain types of dress that will affect you if 128 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: you visit a certain country. Right, that's right. We know 129 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: that in the United States, of course, prohibition did not 130 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: end with the alcohol prohibition era of nineteen nineteen thirty three. 131 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: Prohibition of one substance or another continues today. Um, like 132 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: heroin is still illegal in the United States and it 133 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: probably always will be. Yeah, Yeah, marijuana is kind of 134 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: it's it's still prohibited from a nationwide standpoint. Then when 135 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: you go down to the States, it seems to be 136 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: a routing. Um, I'm interested to see where that goes. Yeah, 137 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: it's strange to have this podcast coming out while these 138 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: laws are still in flux and changing, and you have 139 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: to wonder what's going to happen because the federal government 140 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: at this level is in opposition at loggerheads with many 141 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: state governments, which is a bizarre thing. We've been there before. Well, 142 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: let's see what happens. Are you referring to the Civil War? Okay, 143 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: so well, let's talk about the effects of prohibition specifically 144 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: in the United States, and let's start with what people 145 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: often call the bottom line, Matt. Let's talk about the 146 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: economic effects. Well, prohibition costs hundreds of millions of dollars 147 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: to enforce during a time when really the average worker, 148 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: the average person, let's say, for instance, a Forward factory worker, Uh, 149 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: they didn't make much money. That Ford factory worker only 150 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: made about five dollars a day. So how much would 151 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: you say it costs the US government to enforce this policy. Well, 152 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: according to an article that I was looking at from PBS, 153 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: uh and it cost over three hundred million dollars in 154 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: nineties and nine dollars, which is, if you convert that 155 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: to two thousand and fifteen, that equals roughly thirty seven billion. 156 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot of scratch, my friends. That is just 157 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: to prevent people from drinking a substance that you were 158 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: already making money on before. Uh. And at the national level, 159 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: we see that prohibition had a hidden cost, which was 160 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: tax revenue that was lost. People would pay excise tax 161 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: form or sometimes called a sin tax on these right. Uh, 162 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties, this equal to eleven billion dollars 163 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: in lost tax revenue. And we're talking about a period 164 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: from nineteen twenty to I think nineteen thirty three. Yeah, 165 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: so that's you know, that's a long while. They're thirteen years. 166 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: But still, uh man, that amount of money is crazy. Oh, 167 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: and should we equate it as well? To my mind, 168 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: it's only a hundred and thirty five points six billion, 169 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: So that's nuts pocket change, right, But I guess if 170 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: you're making such a moral decisions, yeah, this is for 171 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: the good of the country as at large, right, because 172 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: otherwise people start listening to jazz um. Anyhow, there were 173 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: other costs to and many of these hit states, uh 174 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: the hardest. The states lost a lot of tax revenue 175 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: from this, but the private sector also took a huge hit. 176 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: So advocates of prohibition when this when this first came out, 177 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: they claimed that the active banning alcohol would lead to 178 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: an economic boom, right, because people aren't spending their money 179 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: on whiskey or brandy or beer or whatever they're drinking. Instead, 180 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: they're going to be spending their money on other disposable 181 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: or consumable goods, soda, popcorn, exactly. You just will spread 182 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: it out. But you're gonna see a pattern here. None 183 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: of that happened. Oh yeah. Let's also say rent was 184 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: supposed to increase as bars closed the neighborhoods improved, and 185 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: did that happen either, No, it did not, sir. In fact, 186 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: entertainment of all sorts slumped during this time because restaurants, 187 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: which are making a lot of their money off of 188 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: selling liquor. You know, let's say Jack who works as 189 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: a bar, a bartender. He's already lost his job, right 190 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: because you don't need a bartender anymore. But what about 191 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: what about Jane, She's she works at the restaurant too, 192 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: she's a server. She makes most of her tips off 193 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: of selling alcohol. Well, she doesn't make those anymore. You 194 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: don't need so many more Jans, So they lose their 195 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: jobs as well. So these Janes and Jack's are out 196 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: of jobs by the thousands. But it's not even that. 197 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: It's the entertainment industry where you, you know, you put 198 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: on in a club a show, but you make most 199 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: of your money while people are watching your show and 200 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: drinking liquor. Yes, thousands of James and Jack's not just 201 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: in restaurants, but in entertainment venues across the nation find 202 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: themselves out of a job because the product that their 203 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: industry directly or indirectly depends upon is all of a 204 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: sudden illegal. Now there's something here that that you have 205 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: for us about how the how the tax situation affected 206 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: the states. Oh yeah, this was something I've read from 207 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: a piece by Ken Burns, again from PBS, but he 208 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: was talking about how so many states relied on these 209 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: excise taxes from liquor to basically to set up their 210 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: state budget. And one example in particular was New York, 211 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: which he says derived of almost seventy of its money 212 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: from these excise taxes. And that's pretty crazy. Where are 213 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: you going to get that much money. I don't know 214 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: exactly what number it is, but seventy of their operating 215 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: budgets came from these taxes. Funny you should say that 216 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: income taxes and spoiler alert for the video. That's one 217 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: of the things that we talk about in the video 218 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: that I don't think a lot of people I certainly 219 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: didn't know. Uh. I don't think a lot of people 220 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: were aware that prohibition in a way set uh set 221 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: up part of the income tax system you have today, 222 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: depending upon which state you reside of it. Yeah, exactly. 223 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: And we're not talking about federal income tax in particular, 224 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about your state um and that it's it's 225 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: interesting because there are places like Florida. I don't know 226 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: if you saw what The Daily Show just did a 227 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: little thing on Florida. Anyways, it was about they kept 228 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: talking about how Florida has no income tax and that's 229 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: the reason that you should go to Florida, because there's 230 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: absolutely zero state income to acts. And that to me, 231 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: it's because that's a lot of money. I don't know 232 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: how much any of you guys pay, but I end 233 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: up paying a pretty penny for my state income taxes. 234 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: And we know that there were lasting health effects from 235 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: prohibition as well, so of course people who are opponents 236 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: of prohibition in the modern age. Typically what these opponents 237 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: like to do is to draw a comparison to other 238 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: prohibitive laws, such as you know, drug laws. Right. But 239 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: one one of the things that you cannot ignore and 240 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: cannot argue away whether you are pro prohibition or anti prohibition, 241 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: it's that it kind of worked in in the fact 242 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: that people drank less, and most of the diseases associated 243 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: with drinking at the time declined except for one, and 244 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: that is alcoholism. There were more alcoholics uh at the 245 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: end of prohibition than there were before in the know 246 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the teens. Well, yeah, because again it wasn't illegal to 247 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: drink alcohol, and it wasn't like you couldn't find alcohol 248 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: much in the same way, if you are in any 249 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: city in the United States, while marijuana is illegal, you 250 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: can probably find it somewhere. Right. And one more note 251 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: about health that will segue us into the next important 252 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: point is that you're right. You could find tainted alcohol 253 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: on this black market. Yeah, you could find alcohol that 254 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: somebody made in there are still at their house, you know, 255 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: And it's not safe, it's not regulated. Who knows what 256 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: you're putting in yourself, right, Yeah, there could be a 257 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: various combinations of trace metals, chemical impurities. This stuff could 258 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: not only kill you, but it could paralyze you. It 259 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: could strike you blind. If you've ever seen those jokes 260 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: or those old cartoons about someone drinking moonshine and their 261 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: eyes turned to x's and they can't see anything, that's true. Yeah, 262 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: that was a real danger and it's still a real 263 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: danger if you're not buying your alcohol from a reputable place. Yeah, 264 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: but anyway, so then then we're gonna get more into 265 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the criminal and legal aspects of or the effects of prohibition. 266 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: So one of the most important things to look at 267 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: here is something that apparently none of the people who 268 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: were putting this together really saw coming, and that was 269 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: the rise of organized crime, bootleggers, and all kinds of corruption, 270 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: because there's so much money involved when you create a 271 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: black market, especially for something that's already so ubiquitous like alcohol. 272 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: We talked we talked about in the video how there 273 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: was such an infrastructure to get this stuff around and 274 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: produce this stuff, and when you all of a sudden 275 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: cut it off, well, somebody's going to pick up the slack. 276 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: And people have been illegally making uh different forms of 277 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: alcohol like moonshine or something uh nash whiskey for a 278 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: long time. The only thing that made them illegal manufacturers 279 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: is that they weren't licensed and they were dodging taxes. 280 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: So this infrastructure to create it illegally also already existed, 281 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: but it expanded at at a very swift rate when 282 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: they realized how much money could be involved here. There 283 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: there's so many weird ways in which bootlegging shaped modern America. 284 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: For those of you who are listening who are fans 285 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: of racing, the rumors that you've heard, the anecdotes you 286 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: may have heard are true. Bootlegging is the origin of 287 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: NASCAR racing. The people who made history is some of 288 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: the first racers started out as bootleggers, and they souped 289 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: up their cars so that they would be less likely 290 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: to be caught by the cops that they hadn't paid 291 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: off yet. This is something you've covered in car stuff, right, Yeah, 292 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: this is something we talked about in car stuff. With 293 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: the origins of racing, you also hear people say that 294 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 1: the origins of some political dynasties are based in boot lagging. 295 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: Now we have to say, allegedly, the great Kennedy patriarch 296 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: was illegally importing liquor allegedly, right yeah, So uh make 297 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: of that what you will. We'd love to hear what 298 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: you think about this, but there is no way around it. 299 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: This channeled enormous amounts of money into the black market. Uh. 300 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: There are so many great sayings about prohibition because the 301 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: country itself seemed to widely turn against this fairly quickly, 302 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: and it became one of those easily ignored laws. People 303 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: would say things like, oh uh, congressmen will vote for 304 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: prohibition as long as they can stumble to the poll. Wow. Uh. 305 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: And we know that we know that this affected the 306 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: rule of law. Right. We we've talked a little bit 307 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: in our videos about corruption, but we haven't really talked 308 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: about some of the conspiracies and whether or not prohibition 309 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: were works, you know, in terms of pros and cons 310 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: So let's get to that, okay, But before we do, 311 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: I think it's time for a word from very old 312 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: sponsored ours, one of our favorites. Actually, oh excellent, let's 313 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: get to it. Well, hey there, friend, I couldn't help, 314 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: but notice you look in a little moby. What's what's 315 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: going on? Actually? I am feeling rather moby. I'm sick 316 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: and tired of all these dune the heads telling me 317 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: what I can and cannot do. No, you mean Tiktote 318 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: loves the prohibitionists and whatnot. Oh everyone who's so sick 319 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: of it? Why can't I just do what I will? Well, buddy, unfortunately, 320 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: that's not how America works unless you're one of the 321 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: top top top top top Men. Yes, I can't stand 322 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: this place. I'm going to have to go back across 323 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: the pond, I think fairly soon. Now, hold on, their friend, 324 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: have you considered that? Uh, maybe it's not all of 325 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: people but you whose mind needs changing the devil? You say, why? 326 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: I guess what? Have I told you? That was just 327 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: a simple pill once a day. You could be absolutely 328 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: fine with other people in power telling you what you 329 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: could or could not do, based entirely on their opinions. 330 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: You mean drug myself so that I forget that this 331 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: is happening. I don't think of prohibit all as a drug, 332 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: my friend, think of it as an opportunity. Here, try this, 333 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh all right, try anything once? They say, huh, I 334 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: don't know that I feel anything different. Well, how do 335 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: you feel about not being allowed to drink whiskey? Whiskey? Well? 336 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, I don't know. Well, what if 337 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: I told you you can't have any more chewing gubment's 338 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: a devil paste? That sounds legitimate? Now, a friend, I 339 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: think I persuaded to do that. Prohibit all is indeed 340 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: the pill for you. Sure, let's go with it. Yes, 341 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen a hippot all. Why try to change 342 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: the world with facts or figures when you can simply 343 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: change your mind with we old drugs. Prohibit all is 344 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: not afforded medicine prohibittal has not been proved by the 345 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: N S A TO C I A T N T 346 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: A B C, the U S D A, the F 347 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: D A, the M P A A four Saturday Dot Live. 348 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: Please distinue use of Prohibit A if you notice any 349 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: of the bottling symptoms lestid like this fight side having 350 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: his pants, lack of coffee based stinking on weird neck, 351 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: jitter specifics. The shovels Prohibit All is brought to you 352 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: by Illumination Global Unlimited. And now it's time for I 353 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: don't know about you, Matt, but one of my favorite 354 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: parts of the show. Here's where it gets crazy. I 355 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: love it when you say that, Ben, I think we 356 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: all collectively love it when you say that we we 357 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: need to get some kind of ring tone with you 358 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: just saying that it's probably prohibited. Do you think so? 359 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: I can imagine where here are the facts you can 360 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: set up for people that you want to speak with maybe, 361 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: And then here's where it gets crazy. Well, it's interesting. 362 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this unless they've listened 363 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: to our show for a long time, but you have 364 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: an amazing vocal repertoire. Oh stop it all right, Well, 365 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: what we won't stop doing is talking about prohibition because 366 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: the reason we said here's where it gets crazy is 367 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: because of course we are talking about conspiracies during the 368 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Prohibition era. These are not conspiracy theories, as we say 369 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 1: in the video. These are not you know, rumors are 370 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: tenuous connections. This is stuff that actually happened. Gangsters like 371 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: al Capone actually did network with UH bootleggers to transport 372 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: whiskey with UH law enforcement either turn a blind eye 373 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: or in some cases assist, right, And this assistance could 374 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: take a number of different roles. You might have somebody 375 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: who works in a precinct who lets you know if 376 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: a raid is coming, right, and they might do that 377 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: for just a bottle of whiskey or something I know, 378 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: and that's all it would take. And you just got 379 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: to think about that corruption. We're going to get more 380 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: into that corruption that this led to, um because you 381 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: you're talking about everything from pharmacies like where you're actually 382 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna go pick up Remember we talked about how drug 383 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: some of the alcohol were considered a drug, right, Yeah, 384 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: and if you had a prescription, then a pharmacist could 385 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: dispense various forms of alcohol to you as a medicinal thing. 386 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what that was intended to treat. 387 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: It sounds a little bit like a purposefully vague loophole 388 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: to me. Well maybe like when I was gonna say 389 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: medicinal marijuana. But you know, there there, let's say there 390 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: needs to be more research. Sure, let's say there needs 391 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: to be more research. We do know that a lot 392 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: of the criminal organizations would buy pharmacies and would own 393 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: them so that this would be a front for them 394 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: to uh launder booze, yeah, and money. Um. Another thing 395 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: that we kind of look over sometimes is the re 396 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: just aspect of alcohol for things like communion and religious 397 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: authorities that you know, they need this stuff for their ceremonies, 398 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: so it would you know, you could usually get some 399 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: for the church, but a lot of times criminals would 400 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: come in and you know, lay down their law. Right. 401 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there's a new priest or, there's 402 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: a new rabbi in town who can help you get 403 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: the help you get wine or something. Yeah, you could 404 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: say there were a lot more people going to church 405 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: or to synagog claiming to be church officials, etcetera. Um, 406 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 1: and a lot more people were going to the pharmacy 407 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: with the nebulous medical conditions, right. Uh. Corporations also had 408 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of I don't know if this is 409 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: a conspiracy, but well, I guess it kind of is, 410 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: because they cooperated to get around the law. Grape manufacturers 411 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: Ventors for instance, would issue these grape juice kits that 412 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: would have warnings on them that said, don't let this 413 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: sit too long. That's so awesome, you know. Um. The 414 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: same thing happened with Malti people manufacturers of beer. They 415 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: would sell maltish and you know for cooking and other 416 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: things like that. But you only need a couple of 417 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: other things and you got some beer. Yes, And of 418 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: course they legally had a warning on there saying something 419 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: like don't let this sit around too long, warning it 420 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: may ferment into an alcoholic beverage, because that would be 421 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: a problem. So there's another troubling conspiracy. Again, these are 422 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: not theories. These are things that actually happened. And if 423 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: you've already watched our video for this week. I think 424 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: you know what we're about to bring up in this 425 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: show today. Yeah, that is overall corruption from the very 426 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: bottom to the top. And so we talked about this corruption, 427 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: but we haven't really talked in super specific terms. And 428 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: why is that, Well, it's because it's it's tremendously difficult 429 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: to estimate with with and crete numbers how much corruption 430 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: was just rampant through everything from the very bottom to 431 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: the very top at this time, because everybody could get 432 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: a piece, and there was so much money being made 433 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: on the black market that if you it's almost like 434 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: if you chose to turn away and be the good 435 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: person and not make the money, it was almost like 436 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: you were cheating your It's crazy, you're you're almost cheating 437 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: yourself out of the future for not only yourself, but 438 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: for your children. Because it feels like there was from 439 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: for me what I've been researching it, it it feels like 440 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: there was so much sentiment against prohibition at the time, 441 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: even from when it was first introduced, that I feel 442 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: like you could almost tell that it was a something 443 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: that would go away. I see. So it may be 444 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: felt for most of America as though it were going 445 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: to be a ephemeral, a temporary thing, sure, a temporary 446 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: thing that if you didn't hop on and make some 447 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: money while this was happening, it's almost like playing the 448 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: stock market. The way I see playing the stock market 449 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: right now now is that where it's the thing that 450 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: will eventually go away because it's unsustainable. It doesn't for me, 451 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't work after learning enough about it. But if 452 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: you don't hop on and try and make some money, 453 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: then you know what what am I doing with my 454 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: whatever two dollars having my savings account. Yeah, I feel 455 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: like you might be giving me a hard sell, but 456 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: you make an excellent point. You make an excellent point 457 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: about corruption because corruption is one of those things that 458 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: some studies confirm grows in sort of a snowball effect way. 459 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: We know that in countries today that don't have the 460 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: most uniform or dependable rule of law, public officials are 461 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: dramatically underpaid and bribes are part of their job, as in, 462 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: if they were not taking bribes, they would not be 463 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: making enough money to sustain themselves. Um, in some cultures 464 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: or they'll you hear them called corruption cultures, But bribery 465 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: is just sort of another tax or fee that's on 466 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: top of it, you know. And it's it's funny because 467 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: I had a and a friend who is not from 468 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: this country, and she told me that she considered tipping. 469 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, Americans and tippings very different in comparison to 470 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: a lot of other countries. She told me that she 471 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: considered tipping a form of bribery. She's like, well, you're 472 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: just bribing them to make sure they don't spit in 473 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: your food or something. Yeah. I thought that was fascinating. Um, 474 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: And I couldn't really refute her point that, well, Matt, well, 475 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me the service industry in that way, 476 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: because you're you're taking the onus off of the owner 477 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: or the people that are paying their staff, sure, and 478 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: putting it on directly on the server themselves to do 479 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: a great job. And if you don't do a great job, 480 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: you're not going to get paid. Well, you know, personally, 481 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: I always tip. I think that especially in this country, 482 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's important. You would have to do a 483 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: lot to make me not tip you. It would be weird. Yeah. 484 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I spent enough time carrying around a trade that I 485 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: understand what it's like. So yeah, I always tip it 486 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: sometimes to my own detriment because I shouldn't, like you said, now, 487 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: going back to the the idea of prohibition, the idea 488 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: of corruption, we see something that I would like to 489 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: argue is a moral corruption, and maybe not the kind 490 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: you would expect. This was, by far, in my opinion, 491 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: that the most disturbing thing we found while looking into 492 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: uh the history of prohibition. This is a conspiracy, again, 493 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: not a theory. This is completely proven, and the United 494 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: States was the culprit. The U. S. Treasury Department specifically. 495 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: We think this is so important we based our entire 496 00:30:55,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Friday or maybe Saturday episode on this. So you gotta understand. 497 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: If you are the federal government and you've decided that 498 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: you cannot transport or do all this stuff with alcohol, 499 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: even though you didn't make it illegal for people to drink, 500 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: you look outside your window and you see people walking 501 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: around on the street just drinking booze, and you're like, 502 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: oh man, this is this is crazy. We've got to 503 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: find another way to enforce this. So before we see 504 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: exactly what the Treasury Department did, let's give just a 505 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: little bit of background. The Treasury Department was tasked with 506 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: monitoring these alcohol interdiction operations. Right. Uh, the people who 507 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: were making illegal booze were stealing industrial alcohol. There was 508 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: a problem of scale. A lot of times they would 509 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: steal it, right. And it's d natured alcohol, right, yes, 510 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: And d natured alcohol describes alcohol which essentially grain alcohol 511 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: that has a bunch of other nasty tasting stuff added 512 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: to it in the best case scenario. The other scenarios, 513 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: they would add chemicals that make it dangerous or impossible 514 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: physically impossible to drink a lot. Uh So what they 515 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: would do, what these criminal originations would do, is they 516 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: would they would steal millions of gallons of this d 517 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: natured alcohol, and they would take it to the chemists 518 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: that they were paying, and their chemists would redistill it 519 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: and make it drinkable again in theory. So this is 520 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: happening everywhere. Industrial alcohol is getting stolen left and right. 521 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: The Treasury Department says, you know what, We're going to 522 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: change the d naturing process. Uh So they ordered essentially 523 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: matt the poisoning of industrial alcohol manufacturing the United States. Yeah, 524 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: and it was all too scare people. It was a 525 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: scare tactic to stop people from drinking. Because if you 526 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: see that there are a couple of people you know 527 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: down your street who got poisoned, then maybe you don't 528 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: want to pick up that that stolen bootleg alcohol. And 529 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about people dying. More people got violently ill 530 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: than died, but still quite a few people died. I think, uh, 531 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: seven hundred in just in New York. And by the 532 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: by the time prohibition ended, the the government had poisoned 533 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: at least by some estimates, and killed over ten thousand people. Yes, 534 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: And what's strange and disturbing about this chapter in American 535 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: history is that the government itself said, Uh, this is 536 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: so morally important that we can compromise on morals in 537 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: the pursuit of this higher good, this greater good, right, 538 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: this higher goal. Yeah, We're gonna actively knowingly poison these 539 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: people because it is so bad. This alcohol thing is 540 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: such a devil's drink that, you know, if we don't 541 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: stop it now, just our our whole way of life 542 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: is going down the tubes. And uh. But then in 543 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: December five, prohibition was lifted, and oh, the celebration was had. Yes, 544 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: the celebration has had. People were back to drinking. But 545 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: of course the country did not move on completely from 546 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: the effects of prohibition. So now let's talk about if 547 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: prohibition works, because some people believe it does and some 548 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: people believe it doesn't. Clearly, clearly, there were some difficulties 549 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: with the specifics of alcohol prohibition, right, but other countries 550 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: do alcohol prohibition pretty well, even in the modern day. 551 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: You know, um Iran Saudi Arabia have i think specialized 552 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: exemptions for religious minorities or for nationals at embassies or 553 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: at hotels. But then other than that, the entire country 554 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: is a dry country. And again because of that, there 555 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: is a small black market for alcohol in places like that, 556 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: but it is not as uh I used the word, 557 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: isn't as widespread. Well, yeah, and I think part of 558 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: it is that those were not necessarily heavily drinking cultures 559 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 1: beforehand the way that the United States was. But let's 560 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: let's talk pros and cons. We've got any pros for prohibition, sure, Well, 561 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: for one, it reduced the amount of alcohol drinkers across 562 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: the population, so fewer people were doing alcohol. Whether you 563 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: agree or disagree with the policy, regardless of your basis 564 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: for that belief, there's no denying that in this sense 565 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: prohibition worked, uh to just stop the number of people 566 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: who are getting wasted all the time, right yeah, and 567 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: then also reduce the number of serious drinking ailments they 568 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: might have, like cirrhosis, stuff like that. Um. And it 569 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: addressed the moral panic of alcohol consumption, right yeah, absolutely. 570 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Um Oh. And it also made Nascar, oh yes, which 571 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: could be a proer con. I think it's pro, but 572 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: it depends on how you feel about racing, I guess sure. 573 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: And it probably influenced racing all over the place. There 574 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: are some bad things though, right yeah. One thing that's 575 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a big one for a lot of 576 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: you out there listening today is that prohibition removes freedom 577 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: of choice. Yeah. That is a huge fundamental of the 578 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: United States. And who knows. It didn't work out right 579 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: as we've seen, so maybe that freedom trumped somebody else's 580 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: moral panic. Uh. This also promoted the rise of complex, organized, 581 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: enormously profitable black markets, which, as we said, led to 582 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: a rising crime and a rise in corruption. That rising crime, 583 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people might not completely realize, 584 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: is something that would fuel criminal organizations for years or 585 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: even decades afterward. Yeah, it showed you just how much 586 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: money you can make when there's a black market. And 587 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: then it translated to other drugs, other things that were prohibited, 588 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: things like sex workers, just all that kind of stuff. 589 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: It just opened the eyes of people that maybe we 590 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: would have rather liked to keep their eyes closed. We 591 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: also know that this uh wrought unforeseen economic damage. And 592 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like we're being very, very negative 593 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: about prohibition, but these are the facts, and that's why 594 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: the prohibition era is largely seen as a failed policy. 595 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: And we're also not saying, hey, you should drink alcohol 596 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: or anything like that. It is just a fact fat 597 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: alcohol is consumed in the United States at some pretty 598 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: high levels, right, and well the numbers are there. If 599 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: you want to save money, don't drink there. You go 600 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. But uh, but let's talk 601 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: about prohibition today. Let's close there. Maybe the Eighteenth Amendment 602 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: was repealed, as you said December five three. However it 603 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: wasn't when it was repealed. It's not like everybody just 604 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: decided to sell boo hoodles of alcohol. Uh, you've got 605 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: local You can look at these maps now where you 606 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 1: can see in the United States where they're still dry 607 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: counties because they allowed for some local options. Let's say, 608 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: where if your municipality decided, well, we still want to 609 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: be a dry county, then you could be and you 610 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: can't sell alcohol. You've you've probably been on a road 611 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: trip before, many of you, where you'll stop by a 612 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: Kroger sometimes, or you know, you stop by a place 613 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: where you wouldn't normally find alcohol and there's just tons 614 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: of alcohol in there, and then other places you'll find 615 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: that there is not a single drop of alcohol for 616 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: miles right. And then you might also run into an 617 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: area that has one of the so called blue laws 618 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: where you can't buy alcohol during certain hours, were on 619 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: Sundays on Sundays like it was in Georgia for a 620 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: long time. So now this means that thirty eight percent 621 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: of the US populations living in areas with state or 622 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: local prohibitions after prohibition. Uh. Currently there are hundreds of 623 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: dry counties cross the US, which you know, it's about 624 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: ten percent of the area of the US I guess 625 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: would be technically dry. So you can pretty much always 626 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: drive to another area. Um, but some states, I think 627 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: it's Utah, have laws that if if they're not prohibiting 628 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: the sale of alcohol, they're prohibiting the strength of the 629 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: kind or the type that you can buy, which you know, 630 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: which is also the case with fireworks in some states. 631 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: So it's it's tough to be holier than now. One 632 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: part of the whole big experiment that is the United 633 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: States is that states get to make their own laws 634 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: up to a point exactly. Oh and just a reminder, 635 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: in most places, you cannot drink alcohol on a public street, 636 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: just walking around. We're just in public in general, so 637 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: you gotta keep that to a private location. You probably shouldn't, 638 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: even if it's legal. It seems like more of a 639 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: recipe for a bad day or a bad night than 640 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: it does for an adventure. I think anyone who's been 641 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: to New or less knows the consequences of a hand grenade, 642 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: A night of hand grenades, A night of hand grenades, 643 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: And what better phrase to end on, Ladies and gentlemen. 644 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: We hope that you enjoyed this podcast as much as 645 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: we enjoyed making it. 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