WEBVTT - Xtras: Dune Prophecy Episode 1 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.400 Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for the first episode of 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:09.639 Dune Prophecy on Max and HBO and the Wider Dune Cannon, 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:10.520 so be warned. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.400 Wild Cannon guys, Wild Cannon. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.080 Hello, my name is Jason Concepsiode. 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:33.559 And I am Mersey Nights of the Benny Jesuit. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.920 They're not called that yet and welcome back to ext 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.440 revision of the podcast when we Dive dee Vinny your 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.040 favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture coming from my 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.519 art podcast. We're bringing you three episodes a week every 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.160 Tuesday Thursday, with an extra episode every Wednesday. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.599 In today's episode, we are joined by super producer and 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.240 dune expert Aboo. How's it going. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:57.400 It's going super well. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:58.240 I love to hear it. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.840 I'm your local mentet. If you're our BENI Jess, that's right, and. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:07.280 Jason is obviously are chosen one. In the airlock. We 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.120 will be deep diving into that recap of Doom Prophecy 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.760 episode one, and boy does a lot of has stuff happened. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.480 I'm glad Aboo is here to help us through so much. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.600 Law the kids love law and HBO delivered with the 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.160 Law in the omnibus Aboo's gonna take us through some 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.160 of the Toms Easter Eggs references that you may have 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.920 missed in this very dense, dense first episode of the 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.040 Dune Prophecy Program. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.200 In the words of the Great British Breaking Show, it's 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.520 quite stodgy this episode. Let's step out of the air 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:43.160 lock and talk about it. We open with narration in 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.440 the wake of the human victory over Ai and the 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.200 great but Lerian Jihad, when the humans have overthrown the 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:50.840 Thinking Machine. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.000 Pretty crazy to see that according. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.200 To legend or history. Why don't we have any history? 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.040 Nobody wrote anything down. We're not here anyway. According to 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.560 the propaganda that it exists, it was in a tradese 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.480 who led human forces to victory in this wonderful grand 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:12.520 victory over the Thinking Machines Akaai. The Harconans, who we 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.359 have to admit are kind of scumbags and a lot 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.400 of the stories that we know from the Dune universe, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.600 were somehow branded as cowards for their behavior during this 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.840 war and were exiled to a planet that sucks. Valia 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.880 harconin one of these spends these years in the wake 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:37.400 of the war helping to build an organization of women 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:42.560 who task themselves with guiding political events in the galaxy. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:47.080 They are trained as soothsayers. Basically, they're human light detectors, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.840 and through a marketing campaign, which we do not see, 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:52.800 get themselves assigned. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.760 Let's see the marketing campaign, guy, we. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.840 Need to see the marketing campaign of their early benage, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.600 of their years of like, you got it. Have one 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:04.360 of these soothsayers. Wow, I just got a soothsayer, and 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:05.359 I know the truth you. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.520 Need in your house. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:08.560 Yeah, no one. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.440 Will ever trick you again. That will be a cool 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.239 woman wearing a spooky uniform, and she will tell if 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.560 everybody is telling them, we. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.480 Need that marketing cafe. Anyway. By the time that our 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.040 story commences, these women are already being placed with various 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.840 important houses throughout the galaxy. The word lands rat is 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.600 not used, but I think we can assume that this 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:36.320 collection of great houses probably exists. Yes, Mother Riquella is 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:41.160 the first mother superior of this organization, and it is 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.280 her mission. She creates the mission of this group to 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:50.480 curate the genetics of the various royal houses so that 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:55.120 they can put in force a kind of eugenics program. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.640 Yeah, Messiah, eugenics program to. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:03.920 Create future royal who are in obviously influential and powerful positions, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:09.920 but are also pliable in some way I guess, genetically suggestible, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.480 so that the Sisters can wield influence. Do I have 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:14.640 it write aboo so far? 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.680 Yeah, that's a pretty good summary of it. I think 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.880 the show itself really glosses over and rushes past a 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.720 lot of this Mother Raquella stuff because this is from 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.039 the book from Sisterhod of Dune, written by Brian Herbert 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.480 Kevin J. Anderson. And the important point that the show 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.359 doesn't hit on is that Mother Raquella is so important 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.039 and her legacy overshadows the Sisterhood so much because she 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:40.240 is the first ever Reverend Mother, as in, she has 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.640 taken Spice, just like Jessica does in the movie right, 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.480 and she has survived that ordeal, the Spice agony quote unquote, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.240 and has come out the other side with abilities, with 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.560 access to her other memories, with all of those Reverend 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.520 mother abilities that we know, and she's the first to 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.880 ever achieve it. I the show never mentions that I wouldn't. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.599 Like to spend it an hour with her an opening 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.760 episode about her and yeah and her journey. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.159 So Abu does she not have. So she has genetic 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:12.039 memories from that extend beyond her own memories, but they're 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.800 probably not that extensive because this hasn't been going on 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:15.400 that long. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.279 Right, that's correct? Yeah, I mean she presumably has genetic 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.240 memories down her female line, like every Reverend mother who 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:22.880 has gone through the agony. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.560 Right, but not the collected memories. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.320 Not the collective Benny jesret right, So that is like 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.560 Rickella is the start of that. She initiates that program 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.760 and spends most of the book. The show doesn't address 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.440 this at all and just assumes we're past it, but 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.520 spends most of the book trying to figure out how 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.279 the fuck do I make more Reverend Mothers because everyone 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.080 I keep giving spice to keeps dying. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.600 Got to drink ato spice, right. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.640 And they keep dying. So they're trying to figure out 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.440 the right formula and dosage. And I see, by the 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.720 time we get to where this show picks up, Valia 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.720 herself has been only the second to ever survive it. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.680 I think, Oh, and we haven't learned that yet. That 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:00.760 might be a flashback. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:01.800 That might be a flashback. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.720 So Mother Raquella as she is dying calls for Valia, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.480 who appears to be her favorite of the sisters. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.200 Over her own door. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:15.039 That's right, yes, tough, look the sister. Valia shares Mother 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.960 Superior's dedication to this genetic project. Raquella tells Valia that 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.280 tyran erfl It's coming end quote, and then she has 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.520 these various dying visions of like a huge sandworm swallowing 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.320 the city and glowing eyes in space that speak in 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:37.760 a kind of garbled language. She comes back to reality 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.240 and grips Valia's hand and asks her to grow the 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.120 sister its power and to protect it as it goes forward. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.760 Apparently tyran erfl is some kind of prophecy of holy judgment, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.240 a reckoning, and a tyrant who will rule the galaxy. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.719 Can I just interject him? Because I think this is 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.880 one of the funniest things about making a show like this. Personally, 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:01.479 I liked this episode a lot, and I felt like 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.520 they do hold up the suspense, mostly due to density 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.800 and confusion. But I do think it's really funny that 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.840 they basically just tell you, like Pola Tredees is the 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.960 bad thing that's coming, so early on in the show. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.200 It's like, we know where Dune is going, and if 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.800 you've read the books, you know, so basically we're just 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.760 going to be having the dramatic irony of watching them 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.760 create their own downfall, which I think is like an 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.000 interesting thing to lay out so early on. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.119 I agree with you, and I will say that part 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.360 of my I think that there's a good show that 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.640 will emerge here, and I think this first episode is 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.679 a bit of a mess, but I did really enjoy 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:37.520 the vibes. 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.040 It's a good vibe show, and I think the. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.160 Vibes will grow. That said, I think there's a lot 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.640 of suspense building by like dropping these little clues and 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.360 it's like, oh, you can find out why this is 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.360 such a big deal. Yeah, And I think that is, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:54.239 in my opinion, a mistake. I think they should have said, 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.960 here's what the big thing they're worried about is, so 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.080 you can share in that. Because there's a there's so 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.280 much download that you're like, does that matter? Does that matter? 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.640 What is that? There is a lot of vagary ching 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.040 around to try and understand what's important, what's not, what 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:10.960 are they freaking out about? And I think they needed 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.760 to set that stage early. And then there's also the 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.400 other thing of ladies. It's gonna be ten thousand years 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.640 from now. Don't don't worry about it, stress that far, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.520 you know what I mean, Like, let's trump the break somebody. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.920 Else in your order. She is gonna just take it 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.680 upon ourself to do it anyway, So don't worry about it. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:29.800 Can you wait until tomorrow? 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:30.520 Probably? 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:31.120 Yeah? 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:31.800 Probably? 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.080 Yeah. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.800 I do think that's gonna be the most interesting thing 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.320 is like how can they hook us into this world 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.360 when we already know where we're going, And that's the 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.160 cust of all prequels. I do think that the visual 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.560 world building and as you put it, Jason, the vibes, 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.679 which I think we are into a vibe show, and 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.000 that side of it really did suck me in, like 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.040 I want to spend time in this world, which I 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.280 think is really important. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.199 It's a lot like foundation where yes, just looking at 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.560 it great, I can just continue need to look at 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.760 it because I want to continue to just even beyond 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.480 the storytelling, like the visuals. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.080 Or another immense law show. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:11.040 Yes. Valia orders a small group of sister collaborators to 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.760 begin a plot to raise an empress who will rule 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:21.760 over the imperium. Apparently Sister Dorotea is on the outside 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.800 of this plan. She's going to be a problem because 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.320 she disagrees with a lot of stuff, including the genetic project. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.600 She's like, we're meant to be just humble witches, guys, 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.920 we're not supposed to be becoming eugenesis doctors. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.520 She probably has why did you join this group? Then? 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.400 Like this is kind of what the group project is Dorotea. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.640 I think her mom is Riquela. I don't know if 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:40.720 she had a law of choice. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.200 Yes, So there's a lot of clues and hanging mysteries 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.160 regarding her as well. At the funeral for Mother Raquela, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.840 Dorotea and her acolytes make it clear that hey, mother 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.240 Superior's dying wishes, we're not down. We don't like that, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.679 We're not going to do it. Conflict clearly shaping up. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:01.080 Valia finds now Mother Dorotea, so she did she drink 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.400 the spice or no, she just took the mantle on, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.040 but she hasn't done any of the stuff. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.959 Correct, which shows like her disrespect for the version of 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.720 the sisterhood that was before. Now she's like, I'll just 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.840 take it on, yeah and do something different. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.640 Yeah, And again there's potential for more flashback that flashes 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.240 this out. But Dorotea is also the other Volley and 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.160 Dorotea are the two next sisters to do the stuff 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.080 and become the next reverend mothers in the books. In 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.960 the books, and then there's a power struggle. There's a 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.839 schism in the sisterhood and it's Dorotaea vers Valia. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.240 Interesting again, skimm Dova in the last ten minutes of 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:34.920 this episode. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.240 Yeah, so Dorotea is like, we should just be, in 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.440 Rosie's words, humble witches who guide the imperium. We don't 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.319 want to like ruling it from the shadows. That's overstepping. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:51.959 And so in service of my vision for this organization, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.240 I'm going to go into the genetic archive and I'm 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.440 going to destroy it. And Valia is like, no, you're not. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.439 She used stops her from doing it. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.839 She's like, I don't know that. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.240 I'm not gonna get her that something she invented. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.920 Yeah, she invented the voice. She's the first person to 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:10.959 ever use it live. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.680 Is that true to the Bookaboo? 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:13.720 That is true to the book. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.440 Yes, Okay, so she's been developing the voice apparently, like 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.360 doing R and D in secret she's so, this is 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.920 the first live test of the voice and it's successful. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.480 I want to know how have she been practicing it? 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.240 Because if she they get those prisoners from the imperium. Oh, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.040 that's true, she's just been making them do horrible stuff. Yah, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.720 she's a villain. They they if you felt like the 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.720 Penguin on HBO Max, that was real villain centric show. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.200 I feel like this is following on in that in 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:41.160 great terms. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.160 So Valia's like, well, listen, the voice pretty cool? Right, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.960 you were like this is pretty sick. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.400 Wouldn't you want to do this? 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.520 Don't you want to learn how to do this? Right? 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.480 I will teach you how to do it? If you 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.720 just let us do the gen nick thing, can we 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.480 do it? Dorte is like no, I will never agree 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:02.040 to that. So Valias like ten stands us up of 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.400 the neck and she's dead, and she does go on 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.800 and the other sisters come running, not knowing Maybee the 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.000 voice has been used. They don't even know about the voice, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.120 and they're just like, oh my god, dort kill herself. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:13.760 This is crazy. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.240 Guess we can just do our plan now. This is convenient. 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.000 Yeah, I'm fast forward thirty years. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.400 Yeah, my read of it is those three women that 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:24.000 run along. I think they at least heard the voice, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.640 or they have some suspicion that Valuo was involved. But 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.400 that plan is essentially like getting an empress to be 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.760 in charge of the imperium is the most important thing. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.760 So we'll keep this between us, and like people in 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.800 a slasher movie, in thirty years, someone's gonna come up 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.600 and be like, bro, did you kill someone? And it's 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.800 going to be a problem. And now it's that years later. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.440 That's a crazy time jump. 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.080 So now it is thirty years later, one hundred and 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.000 sixteen years after the end of the Butlery and Gie 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:56.040 hot aka Machine War, and it's like ten thousand plus 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.319 years before Paul and Tree's again, not that big of 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:01.960 an emergency. Obviously, we don't want it to happen, but guys, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.400 we had ten grand And also. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.240 Guys, he was born early anyway, so it was supposed 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.400 to be that next generation. So he's like even then, 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.000 it's still a long time, guys, even though he came ali. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.920 So in the intervening years, Valya has taught the sisters 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.200 how to use the voice, and the Order has only 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.239 grown in power and influence. We now have sister soothsayers 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.480 very much in demand across the galaxy. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:23.520 Everyone has on it. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.920 Everyone has one. You gotta get. 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.720 It's like a tamagotchi. Everyone wants on you. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.280 Well, the Harkonans have not got one, and you think 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.199 they're probably thinking, well, hold on, Valia, you're one of us. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.960 What the fuck can we get a soothsayer? And they've 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.520 asked numerous times and Valua is like, for the fourth time, no, no, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:48.240 fuck yourself. Interesting interesting development. Yes, Imperial guards arrive, including 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.280 the prince Lord Constantine, who is he's hung the half 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.000 brother of the Princess Ynez who will soon be a 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.640 student here at the not yet ben a Jesuit order, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.800 and he's here to just inspect the facilities and make 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.360 sure everything's fine for the arrival of his sister. Lord 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.720 Constantine is like, my sister's got to have her own quarters, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.760 she's got to have her own cell phone, she's got 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.080 to have a prince, she's got to have. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.400 A she needs a special seat that's riped off so 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:16.840 no one else can sit in all. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.440 Of that stuff. She needs a toilet seat that warms 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.560 up and all that stuff. And Valuys like spa days 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.520 and Volley's like, absolutely not. She's just gonna be a 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.000 normal sister like everybody else. And Lord Constant's like, okay, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:29.520 well I tried. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:30.760 Yeah, He's like I had to try it. 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:31.240 He wasn't that. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.520 He's very chill guy. He tried, and he's like, yeah, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:38.600 I tried. Later to lahar Conen, Valia's sister is teaching 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:43.200 the students how to strategically guide events in the Councils 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:48.160 of the Powerful by lying and understanding the difference between 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.360 lies and the truth, and understanding when to use each 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.600 and how to shade truth with lies and how to 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.720 shade lies with truth, et cetera. Her sister Valia comes 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.400 down and says, hey, the Emperor deal, we got it sealed. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.840 Princesses common She's gonna be living here. It's gonna be great. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.720 Okay, bo, can I ask you a quick question. Ye 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.360 are the women that we see in that sequence? Are 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.560 all of those women actual characters from the books? 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.960 No, there's a lot of original characters. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:17.240 Okay. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.320 It felt to me like this was kind of a 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.680 adding kids to the Magic School section. It didn't necessarily 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.960 feel like they were coming directly from the book, So 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:26.520 thank you for that. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.240 We go to Seleusis Secundas, which apparently is the Emperor's 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:34.960 throne world and will in the future, I believe, be 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.480 the place where they make his imperial guards. Is that correct? 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.200 That's correct. The planet mysteriously gets nuked to oblivion and 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.400 becomes like the Healthscape prison planet. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:43.840 Fun. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:48.680 Okay, Swordmaster here into Tradees is sparring with Princess Ynez 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.120 and let me tell you, Oh they're sparring. He's using 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:52.640 more than just the sword. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.320 Is dead Pool Wolverine levels of we're having a fight, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:57.840 but really we're having sex. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.880 Focus on my body, he says, yeah. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:02.480 Focus on. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.600 The chemistry. Is that this is seems like she's having 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:09.080 a good time. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.760 Constantine comes back and he's like, just came back from 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:17.240 the school. Were elsewhere. The Emperor is having a meeting 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.480 with the Duke of Riches. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.360 A space venus. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:32.800 Hey, yah, you're gonna love the matter. You're gonna love him. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.280 And if you are marrying princess to my charm, beautiful, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.080 I give you the ships. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.760 You need the sheep negotiation. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.480 You need my ballist, the ships and knows that the 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.120 Cussi fall the iracas and you get the spies and 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.760 the spies are gonna flow, So apparently the emperor is 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.160 hard up for warships the emperor. So this is a 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.080 good point where we can ask a question. I think 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.800 because I think you hear emperor and you think unchecked power. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.680 But the emperor in the world of Dune is hamstrung 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.600 by the power of his subordinates, the power of the 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:13.640 great houses. Could you explain to us exactly why this 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:19.840 emperor seems so weak and unable to provide his own armaments. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.640 And machinations with other houses. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.480 Yeah, yeah, couple of reasons. One, Jason, You're correct, there's 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.520 like this tenuous political tripod of this universe. You have 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:35.000 the Emperor and his forces, which is currently hous Carino 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.320 on one side. Then you have the lands Rod, which 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.119 is the collection of great houses, the trades, the Harconins, 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.040 there are jay Z's. And then you have a group 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.040 we haven't seen in this show, but is very present 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:47.879 in the books and we saw it in the Villna films, 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.440 the Spacing Guild, who have a monopoly on all travel. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.719 And you have these three powers sort of precariously working 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.359 with and against each other at all times. And so 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.919 the Emperor isn't so powerful that he can just stomp 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.000 over the Guild or the Lancerod any day he chooses, 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:04.800 he has to work with them. His hands are tied. 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.000 The second reason we're seeing sort of a weaker house 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.680 Carino and a weaker Emperor at the moment is because 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.000 we've just come off the tales of a machine war 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.840 that SAPs the resources of all of humanity basically right, soldiers, money, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.199 everything we came from, back from essentially the brink of 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.520 enslavement and destruction at the hands of machines and House 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.320 Karno was pivotal in doing that, but very likely sacrifice 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.520 the most in doing that as well. So they've obtained 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.680 power but at great cost. And now they may control 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.640 Aracus and Spice, but that doesn't mean they are objectively 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.359 the most powerful people out there right now. 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.960 So they need the ships they need there cheesy ships. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.040 While this is happening, we see that Kasha, the Emperor 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.960 soothsayer and Duke with Chesy's soothsayer like finger signaling to 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.040 each other and they're like, this fucking duke is a 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.040 real asshole listening, and she's like, yeah. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.560 In case you didn't realize, the Duke of Richesi, you're 0:18:58.600 --> 0:18:59.600 selling his child, and. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.359 The Duke's in sooth series like, you don't even know 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.919 the half of it. I work with this guy all 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.040 the time. He's a piece of shit, and Kasha has 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.800 to be like, well, listen, once the marriage is over 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.760 and we're clear of that, we can take care of 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.159 this guy. Whatever gom Jabar in the neck, we poison, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.160 whatever the case might be, we get rid of him. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.159 But we just got to get this wedding going. The 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.680 Emperor then consults with Kasha over the ballistas and whether 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:29.280 it's worth marrying his beloved daughter Ynez to the Duke 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:33.320 of Richesi's son, and they confer and he goes over 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.280 to the Duke of Riches. He's like, okay, let's do it, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:36.560 my daughter for the ships. Yeah. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.000 And it's very clear now that he is fully under 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.639 the thrall of the Benajezra at this point, or at 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.000 least takes them pre be prey the Sisterhood. Let's call 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:45.800 him the Sisterhood. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.320 I wouldn't even say the thrall. I just think he is. Again, 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:54.439 he's a weak emperor vying with powerful political forces that 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.880 are ostensibly his subordinates but have agency on their own, 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.560 and he just doesn't know where to turn. And I 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.560 think Kasha has given him good advice to this point, 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.840 and he's got to get the spice to flow. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.960