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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you as we roll through the Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition of the program, letting you know where we're headed.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a mom who spoke out against

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Speaker 1: the mask mandate in New York City and has already

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Speaker 1: lost her job. Elon Musk owns nine point two percent

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Speaker 1: of Twitter, the largest single shareholder. He is now going

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Speaker 1: to be on the board. That is going to be

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Speaker 1: an intriguing story to follow as it pertains to Twitter's

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Speaker 1: embrace of the First Amendment. Stacy Abrahams four years ago

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Speaker 1: was worth a hundred k. She ran for governor, she lost.

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Speaker 1: She's now a multi millionaire. We will discuss that Colin

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Speaker 1: Kaepernick is the biggest fraud in the history of sports media.

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Speaker 1: All that coming your way, plus work scheduled to be

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Speaker 1: joined in the next hour by Monica Crowley and then

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Speaker 1: in the third hour by Senator Ron Johnson of the

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Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin. But right off the top, Katangi Brown

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Speaker 1: Jackson is going to be confirmed. There are now three Republicans.

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Speaker 1: I think Buck, you got it right. When you said

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Speaker 1: that you thought three Republicans would ultimately end up not

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Speaker 1: quite Nashville nos Radama's level, but pretty good, pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Two of the three makes sense. And let me explain

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Speaker 1: what I mean by that. Susan Collins in Maine has

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Speaker 1: a perspective that has been consistent and that I respect.

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Speaker 1: And that perspective in general is I am going to

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Speaker 1: give deference to the president in general, and the Senate's

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Speaker 1: job is to advise and consent and look over the nominees,

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Speaker 1: but not to say, hey, we're only going to support

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Speaker 1: people who agree one hundred percent with us. And Susan

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Speaker 1: Collins credit she stepped up and supported Brett Kavanaugh when

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Speaker 1: there was immense pressure on her not to support Brett Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: And really, when she won reelection against Cohen, I believe

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Speaker 1: was going to lose, she won comfortably. Main trust Susan

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Speaker 1: Collins to make the right decision. So I respect the

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Speaker 1: consistency of the principle of Susan Collins when it comes

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Speaker 1: to giving deference to the president, whether he's a Republican

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Speaker 1: the nominees. Lisa Murkowski, Senator from Arkansas from Alaska, is

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Speaker 1: in a tough reelection battle right now, and I believe

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Speaker 1: she is making a political calculation that she's more likely

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Speaker 1: to win if she supports Katangi Brown Jackson. That's less

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Speaker 1: noble to me. I also think that Murkowski got it

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Speaker 1: one billion percent wrong when she voted against Brett Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: That to me is reason enough not to be a

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Speaker 1: big fan of her. If I'm an Alaskan voter, I

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Speaker 1: Coney Barrett, so I'm less impressed by Murkowski. But again,

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Speaker 1: she's in the middle of an election. The person that

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Speaker 1: I'm disgusted by fuck is Mitt Romney. I am. I

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Speaker 1: am utterly disgusted with Mitt Romney. And it's not just

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Speaker 1: about this vote. Buck. In the last few weeks, Mitt

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Speaker 1: Romney has said I'm voting for Katangi Brown Jackson. This

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Speaker 1: TSA mask mandate. Buck. He was the only Senator on

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Speaker 1: Democrats for getting that right. Mitt Romney got that one

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Speaker 1: gotten almost everything wrong wrong. He didn't show up to

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Speaker 1: And remember he also accused Tulsi Gabbard of treason for

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Speaker 1: from Mitt Romney. So, if I'm a Utah voter right now, Buck,

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Speaker 1: than the alternative. But Clay, there is a there is

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Speaker 1: historical context there from Murkowski for me, unforgivable for a

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Speaker 1: know she's got a challenger who's an actual Republican. She's

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Speaker 1: But with Mitt Romney, Clay mid rom he went marching

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Speaker 1: I give credit to Susan Collins for standing on principle

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Speaker 1: I think she's made poor decisions. Again, if I'm in Alaska,

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Speaker 1: But for Mitt Romney, I mean, he's not up for reelection.

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Speaker 1: To your point, Buck, he's got hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: I find this guy detestable. Now, I really do find

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Speaker 1: Mitt Romney to be a detestable person. Cheap false virtue

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Speaker 1: It could end up fifty one forty nine, and Mitt

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Speaker 1: Democrats to get them to fifty so Kamala can break ties, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he could be for the Republican Party if

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Speaker 1: those sweets. We had editorials in the Washington Post about

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Speaker 1: how Romney's a maverick and how he's cementing his legacy

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Speaker 1: and the Romney brand is separate from the tainted Trump.

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Speaker 1: difference is, you know, Joe Mansion is representing a state

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Speaker 1: the wool Democrat all the time. Mitt Romney represents Utah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe historically the strongest Republican state almost in the country, right,

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Speaker 1: of Utah listeners right now who are furious we're number

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Speaker 1: just what I think. We're not alone here, given how

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Speaker 1: every line has been lit up with callers from Utah

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Speaker 1: on this issue. Specific Funny, we've just got Utah callers.

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Speaker 1: People around the country are annoyed about what he's done too,

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Speaker 1: But we got Brian in Leyton, Utah. What's up, Brian, Hello,

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Speaker 1: big fan buck. After the twenty twenty election, I would

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Speaker 1: get annoyed when you kept talking about COVID rather than

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Speaker 1: the potential fraud in the election, But you were completely correct.

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Speaker 1: I'm Utah voter and definitely didn't vote for Romney in

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Speaker 1: the primary and almost didn't vote for him in the general.

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Speaker 1: But I was lazy and filled the straight Republican ticket.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely take that back, and I'll make that

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Speaker 1: mistake again. When I heard he voted to keep kids

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Speaker 1: in mass I was disgusted and I wrote him right

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Speaker 1: away and I got that same lame response that you

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, that he trusts the experts. That's bineless response

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Speaker 1: drives me crazy because it is the leaders that we

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Speaker 1: elected that are responsible to weigh all options. Like man,

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Speaker 1: get on your show for years, for years, and I

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Speaker 1: recommend to everyone the book Skin in the Game by

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Speaker 1: not seem to live because we can't trust experts. They

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Speaker 1: have their bias, they have their skid is barely in

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Speaker 1: the game, and we need leaders who have skin in

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Speaker 1: the game that will weigh all options and be reasonable

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Speaker 1: and smart like you guys. Thank thanks so much, Brian,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I think to seem to Leb is a

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Speaker 1: pro mask guy, so we gotta we gotta check that

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Speaker 1: one out. I'm pretty sure. But the stories do reflect

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Speaker 1: buck that experts get things wrong all the time, and

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Speaker 1: the more of a limited expert you are, the more

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Speaker 1: likely you are to get the things wrong in your

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Speaker 1: chosen field. Take it outside of masking. Look at economists.

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Speaker 1: Economists get everything wrong. You know they can tell you

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Speaker 1: why something matters after it happens, but their forecasts are

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Speaker 1: almost universally wrong. Well, this is also why the history

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Speaker 1: of medical breakthroughs. Scientific breakthroughs, really breakthroughs comes athwart a consensus.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's there are people because they didn't know

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Speaker 1: something before. Usually when someone comes along with some great

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Speaker 1: piece of new knowledge that is true, everyone around them,

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Speaker 1: the system, the establishment, the apparatus, doesn't say, wow, you're

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Speaker 1: a genius. They say, oh, that's reckless, that's terror. What

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Speaker 1: do you mean You want to sterilize instruments, You want

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Speaker 1: to wash your hands between surgeries? What are you crazy?

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Speaker 1: Mucus and blood and stuff on your hands. It's possible

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Speaker 1: when you go from one surgery to the next. That

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Speaker 1: was the state of modern medicine, so to speak. And

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Speaker 1: so what the middle of the nineteenth century, give or

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Speaker 1: take Yeah, coming out of London, they suddenly started saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe if we clean our medical equipment, maybe if we sterilize,

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Speaker 1: maybe this could make sense. And that was ridiculed by

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Speaker 1: all of the people in positions of power at the time.

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Speaker 1: Every major breakthrough comes athwart the scientific or expert or

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Speaker 1: whatever consensus of the time. Just remember that one. Let's

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Speaker 1: see we got Bob and Ogden Utah. Hey Bob, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? We're good, Bob. What's on

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Speaker 1: your mind? Well, going back to the when Romney ran

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Speaker 1: for president back in two thousand and twelve, I refused

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Speaker 1: to vote for him for the simple fact that when

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid accused him of not paying taxes for ten years,

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Speaker 1: Romney wouldn't even stand up and defend himself. And I figured,

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Speaker 1: if he's not going to defend himself, he's not going

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Speaker 1: to defend the American people. So I wrote in Bill

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Speaker 1: a cat a much more qualified individual, right, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: stand up for himself. Steve in Salt Lake City, let's

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Speaker 1: get Steve in here as well. Hey, you guys, something

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Speaker 1: happened to Romney between the first and second debate in

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Speaker 1: two twelve. I mean I campaigned for him. Dennis Miller

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Speaker 1: was right there, ready to go to that second debate

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Speaker 1: and keep going with him, and something happened. He didn't

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Speaker 1: even go after Benghazi. You know, he did have that

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Speaker 1: good Russia comment. But something happened between that first and

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Speaker 1: second debate back when he was running against Obama. And

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Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out what that was. I mean, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I remember those debates very well, and that first debate

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Speaker 1: against Obama, Mitt Romney absolutely crushed him. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was not close, not even even the Democrat spin room. Afterwards,

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Speaker 1: And then in the second debate, when the Benghazi issue

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Speaker 1: came up, Candy Crowley boxed out MIT so to speak

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Speaker 1: and decided to jump in in favor of Obama on

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Speaker 1: the did he call it a terrorist attack or not?

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Speaker 1: And that kind of turned some of the momentum because

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Speaker 1: you know, CNN is a Democrat propaganda networks, so that's

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Speaker 1: not surprising. I also think, you know, the historically there

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Speaker 1: is a press. You're right, he dominated in that first debate.

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Speaker 1: Historically there is often the case Trump was a disaster

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Speaker 1: in the first debate against Joe Biden and then just

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Speaker 1: completely cleaned his clock the next time they went. The

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Speaker 1: because he hasn't been prepping as much as the contender

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Speaker 1: so he's worried about everything else. But man, I wish

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Speaker 1: we could go back in time and change that first

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Speaker 1: Now that I'm speaking about it that Trump had with Biden,

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Speaker 1: just appeasing and doing whatever the woke left says. They

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Speaker 1: have to explain some things to the American people. I

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Speaker 1: think one of the areas that is surprising to many

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Speaker 1: of the Biden regime so far is that almost eighty

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Speaker 1: year old Joe Biden is somehow now a woke warrior

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Speaker 1: for the trans child agenda or for trans children. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody saw that. I don't think they had

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Speaker 1: that on the bingo card, so to speak. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they were expecting this one. And here you have

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Speaker 1: the White House being asked about this, because this is

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Speaker 1: now a reality. It used to be clay when we

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Speaker 1: would have these debates. Hey, if we're really going to

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Speaker 1: use different gender pronouns, how long until you have males

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Speaker 1: in women's prisons and women competing against men in sports

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Speaker 1: and all these things? How long before? And they said, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're just fear mongering, or oh, we can go back

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Speaker 1: and play you all those clips. You go find it

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Speaker 1: all over the place, editorials five years ago, ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: And now it's shut up, bigot. That's not a man.

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Speaker 1: It's a six foot three woman who happens to have

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Speaker 1: male genitalia swimming in that pool. Okay, okay, that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting position for them to take. And the White House

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Speaker 1: and this is what I mean by they're they're on

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Speaker 1: defense now because people have seen quite clearly the reality

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Speaker 1: of this left wing agenda policy, or this left wing

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Speaker 1: agenda rather on the policies that it creates. Here is

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Speaker 1: the White House. Here's Jensaki being asked by of course,

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Speaker 1: Peter Doocey about what the White House's feelings are right

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Speaker 1: now on men competing against women in sports. In some

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Speaker 1: places like the Ivy League, now there are biological males

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Speaker 1: competing against women. Does White House think that it's fair? Well,

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Speaker 1: I would note that we're not the governing body for

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Speaker 1: the ncatable AT or any other system out there that

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Speaker 1: I believe you're probably referring to the case over in

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Speaker 1: swimming in the ncable A. We understand how important sports

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Speaker 1: are to student athletes across the country, but the nc

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Speaker 1: doable A obviously makes puts these policies in place. What

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Speaker 1: I would say, Peter, if we look at this broadly,

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Speaker 1: is that we celebrated International Transgender of Day of Visibility

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Speaker 1: last week with a slate of new actions to ensure

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Speaker 1: we are continuing we continue to protect the dignity and

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Speaker 1: identity of all Americans. Blather blather in misdirection. Clay the

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Speaker 1: question was to the White House, should men compete in

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Speaker 1: women's sports? This White House is too cowardly or perhaps

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Speaker 1: too savvy because they know how the American people feel

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Speaker 1: to answer well. Credit to Peter Doucy for asking the question.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden needs to be asked this question directly himself,

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Speaker 1: because to your point, Buck, he's seventy nine years old.

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Speaker 1: There is no way on earth that Joe Biden, who

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Speaker 1: I believe is a sports fan based on past statements

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Speaker 1: and every sneak in some clicks on OutKick when no

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Speaker 1: one's looking, I think I think he may have been

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Speaker 1: on out Well, I don't he knows how to use

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Speaker 1: the internet, But if he knows how to use the internet,

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Speaker 1: then he'd have been an OutKick. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: big Eagles fan, historically played sports growing up. And so

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Speaker 1: there is a zero percent chance Buck, that seventy nine

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Speaker 1: year old Joe Biden believes that a biological man should

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Speaker 1: be kicking women's asses in the swimming pool. And also

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Speaker 1: the Democratic base does not believe this either, Right, there's

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Speaker 1: about ten or twenty percent of Democrats that do, and

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Speaker 1: everybody's cowtowing to that group. But do you think black

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Speaker 1: Hispanic Asian men in particular, who are overwhelmingly sports fans.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they want their daughters and granddaughters and

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Speaker 1: at competing against men? No way, And so this is

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Speaker 1: a dodge and it's a dodge buck because Democrats can't

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Speaker 1: figure out how to figure out how to balance this

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Speaker 1: pyramid of victimization because women are a huge percentage of

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Speaker 1: the Democratic base now overwhelmingly the Democrats are made up

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Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. You have to make a choice.

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Speaker 1: You're either in favor of transgender rights being so inclusive

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Speaker 1: that there is no difference between men and women, or

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Speaker 1: you support women's sports. Can't have it both ways, and

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Speaker 1: I think the overwhelming majority of Americans support women's sports.

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Speaker 1: They believe women should beat against women and men should

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Speaker 1: compat against men. And the Democrats are afraid to say

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Speaker 1: that because it attacks their base and they know that

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Speaker 1: they're on the wrong side of this issue. If there

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Speaker 1: were more than a handful of actual i'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: actual journalists, just people that want to get real answers

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Speaker 1: from this White House, there would be follow on to

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Speaker 1: she didn't answer the question. It's a very straightforward question.

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Speaker 1: The White House factors in on Title nine issues all

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Speaker 1: the time. The White House factors in or will weigh

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Speaker 1: in on any number of cultural and political issues. You know, though,

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Speaker 1: to pretend that they don't have a position on this

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Speaker 1: is cowardice. But they know that if they make it

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Speaker 1: too obvious, the Democrats are always hiding what they really

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Speaker 1: believe to fool. Unfortunately, you know, ten percent of the

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Speaker 1: middle of the country, you know, metaphorically speaking, politically speaking,

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Speaker 1: in the voting for them. And so this is why

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Speaker 1: they won't answer the question, which is why we have

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Speaker 1: to keep pushing and keep asking. Because Clay, They're only

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Speaker 1: choices are betray women sports or betray the West, the

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Speaker 1: left wing lunatic base there, that's right, and they're refusing

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Speaker 1: to pick a side. Speaking of picking a side, moms

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Speaker 1: have picked aside. They want their kids out of masks.

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Speaker 1: A mom in New York City just lost their job

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Speaker 1: for making that argument. You're gonna want to hear this

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Speaker 1: story next. Flat Travis and Buck Sexton on the front

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Speaker 1: lines of truth