1 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Yea, my dear friend, I know of no medicine fit 2 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: to diminish the violent natural inclinations you mentioned, And if 3 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: I did, I think I should not communicate it to you. 4 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Marriage is the proper remedy. It is the most natural 5 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: state of man, and therefore the state in which you 6 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: are most likely to find solid happiness. Those are the 7 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: words of Benjamin Franklin. Welcome to the show. My name 8 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: is Ben Oh Benny frank No relation. No, Well, you 9 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: know you're sort of spiritual successors. That's very weird. I 10 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: at least have better hair, if not a better position 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: in American politics. That's true. But you're also, like Ben Franklin, um, 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: a bit of a forward thinking innovator. Well, thank you 13 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: so much. No, I sincerely appreciate that. Uh. They do 14 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: in some places call me the the less cool super 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: producer Casey Pegram, which I take is that, you know. 16 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I treat it as the significant compliment that it is, 17 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: because Casey Pegram is the bar, and it's a very 18 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: high one, and very few people ever meet that bar. Yeah, 19 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: but you're like one click below the bar. Oh no, 20 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: took just one click. Man's uh reach must exceed his 21 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: grasp else, what's a heaven for? Did Ben Franklin say that? Oh? 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: That was Robert Browning, the poet, Robert Browning, Yes, yes, Browning. Well, um, 23 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: here's the thing about Ben Franklin. We know him as 24 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: one of the founding fathers of these fine United States. 25 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: He was a part of the Second Continental Congress and 26 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: was sort of like this, uh he was he is 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: a really good diplomat, and that he kind of smoothed 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: over some of the tensions between the other founding fathers. 29 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: He kind of acted as like a little bit of 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: a lubricant, if you will, a human lubricant. Um. He 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: was also an inventor um and he published a Poor 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Richard's Almanac where he espoused the virtues of man and 33 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: all of these little, you know, quirky sayings. Early to bed, 34 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: early to rise and all that. And he apparently did 35 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: get up pretty early every morning. In his autobiography you 36 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: can read his daily routine that started with rising at 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: four am daily. You always talk about his air bath, spen. Yes, yes, 38 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: he's a big believer in air baths. You read my mind, Noel, 39 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: and air bath is what it sounds like. He sat 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: around naked for his for his personal constitution. Additionally, he 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: was a freemason, a polymath, and and many other things. 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: He was a man of many interests and throughout his 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: life from January seventeen, seventeen oh six to his death 44 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: on April seventeen, seventeen nine d he changed the world, 45 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of his enterprises were things that would 46 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: surprise the average you know, the the average high school student. 47 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: You don't hear about a ton of the stuff he's done. 48 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: You hear about some of his experiments into the nature 49 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: of electricity and lightning. And apparently the whole deal with 50 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: the key tied to the kites probably a myth entirely right, 51 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: but he was credited as inventing the lightning rod. But 52 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: today we're talking a little bit more about his little 53 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: lightning rod there we go, uh, and the lightning rods 54 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: of his friends. See. One of the things, one of 55 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the things that you may not learn in a middle 56 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: school or high school history class about Benjamin Franklin is 57 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: that he was also a real lothario, a crazed womanizer, 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: sex thing. You could even refer to him as a 59 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: bit of a rake, yes, yes, an uber rake big 60 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: because he had there's so many different directions we can 61 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: go with this, but we know that the founding Fathers 62 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: at this point in time have moved into the realm 63 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: of myth in many ways. Nol. I love that you 64 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: point out at the beginning of the show that the 65 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: key story is, you know, it's probably a myth. It's 66 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: sort of like boy George Washington, Um, you know, not 67 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: telling a lie and chopping down the cherry tree and 68 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: all that, or wooden teeth, they were actually ivory. But 69 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: in the case of Benjamin franklin sex life, we have 70 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: documentation that proves not only uh, is there some sand 71 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: to the scandalous stories about this man, but he also 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: advised people on their own sex lives. You see, that 73 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: excerpt that we began the show with is from a 74 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: real life letter that Franklin wrote in sev The name 75 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: of the letter is Advice to a friend on choosing 76 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: a mistress, and this is again a real letter. It's 77 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: strange because we also found that forty years before the 78 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: Revolution even got under way in seventy nine, Benjamin Franklin 79 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: was also a publisher, was reputedly publishing a tabloid newspaper 80 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: that had an advice column about things that would be 81 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: considered unmentionable in a lot of higher realms of society. Yeah, 82 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: that's right. And by the time his autobiography came out, 83 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: it was pretty heavily censored because late in life he 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: was absolutely honest about some of this stuff. But because 85 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: of that, already approaching mythical idea of the Founding Fathers, 86 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to protect that legacy and make sure that 87 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: you only remembered Ben Franklin's for Poor Richard's Almanac, and 88 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: for early to bed, early to rise, and for being 89 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: this model of virtue, studious nous, and steadfast goodness. But 90 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Franklin himself acknowledged that he was, in fact a bit 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: of allege. He actually said this of himself in an 92 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: often censored passage from the autobiography. Um he said, quote, 93 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: the hard to be governed passion of my youth had 94 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: hurried me frequently into intrigues with low women. Here's a 95 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: kicker that fell in my way. Yikes. Oh. And then 96 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: he also added, which were attended with some expense and 97 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: grade inconvenience, besides a continual risk to my health by distemper. 98 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: As far as we know, and we may not know 99 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: all of it, This guy throughout his life ended up 100 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: having what fifteen illegitimate children, that's what they say. Yeah, 101 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: and if he was around today, this guy would be 102 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: a me too nightmare. Yes, I mean big time. He 103 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: was well known not just for being alleged, but for 104 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: being alleged for underage potentially women. He even there's a 105 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: rumor that he carried on a relationship with a daughter 106 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: and her there, Margaret Stevenson and her eighteen year old daughter, Polly. 107 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: That was a little bit probably on the older side 108 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: of some of his dalliances with young women. And there's 109 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a paradox here. Well, let's back 110 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: up and say you're right. In his final years, as 111 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: he was aging in after Polly's husband had passed away, 112 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: he moved her to Philadelphia to live by his side 113 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: until he passed away in seventeen ninety. But this guy 114 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: also tried to sleep with his friends mistresses, and as 115 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: we will find, despite the rumors about his interest in 116 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: younger women, he went on record several times saying that 117 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: he actually preferred older women. In his correspondence and like 118 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: in this letter that he mentioned and we'll get to that, 119 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the reason is a little bit more functional like long term. 120 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: He's saying older women might be better for the long haul. 121 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: But there's even a little I guess I'm a verse 122 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: a mini poem, kind of a thrown about, uh the 123 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: time of referring to his time in London, in paris 124 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Um and the reputation that he developed, and and said, Franklin, 125 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: though plagued with fumbling age, needs nothing to excite him, 126 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: but is too ready to engage when younger arms invite him. 127 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: And that came about, believe it or not, folks, when 128 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: he was in his seventies. Yes, so this was. This 129 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: was some time after he had written this letter. He 130 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: was well known for having what people would describe as 131 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: an insatiable libido or sex drive. And let's let's go 132 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: back to this letter. When he was writing to a 133 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: fellow named Cadwallader Colden, which is a fantastic name, incredible, 134 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Mr Cadwallader to Colden, and he recommends, for as you said, 135 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: some some ostensibly practical reasons, that Cadwalader consider choosing a 136 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: not not a mistress, but choosing a wife who is older. 137 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: He says, if you will not take this counsel and 138 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: persist in thinking a commerce with the sex inevitable. Then 139 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: I repeat my former advice that in all your amours 140 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: you should prefer old women to young ones. You call 141 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: this a paradox, and demand my reasons, and then the 142 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: outlines seven fairly articulate reasons, but they're all stuff like, um, 143 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, it sounds pretty brutal. Number one. We 144 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: can just give the gist because these are kind of long. 145 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Number one, he says, Uh, their conversation is better, like 146 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: it's they're more for them to talk to because of 147 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: their life experience, and they are more likely because and 148 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: here's the problem with Ben Franklin, and this this comes 149 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: up time and again and you can probably already tell 150 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: he's a bit misogynist, um, and a little problematic. I think, yeah, 151 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: because some of these things are very condescending to women. 152 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Where he says, once they cease to be handsome, uh, 153 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: they as almost as though they will appreciate so much 154 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: that you're giving them the time of day that they 155 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: will do anything for you, which sounds like a lot 156 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: like Dennis Reynolds and always sunny, because yeah, it's it's 157 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. Um. So yeah, they'll take care of 158 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: you when you're sick. They'll, you know, make your little 159 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: cakes and soup medatory realizing here a little bit, but 160 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: it sure seems like he's trying to give this guy 161 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: advice of how to get like a nice like made. 162 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: We'll also have sex with him, because he also points 163 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: out aid don't mean nothing in the dark. Danny DeVito's character, 164 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Frank Reynolds, has a quote about that that we're not 165 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: going to put on the air, but uh, if you know, 166 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: you know. The third thing he says is that there's 167 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: no hazard of having children. Then he says they're more 168 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: discreet again because of experience, so they're not gonna blow 169 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: up your spot if you're trying to TLC style creep. 170 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: One thing we haven't mentioned another pretty little fact about 171 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: Franklin is that he was in fact married. He had 172 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: a common law wife by the name of Deborah Reid, who, 173 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: like Tony Sopranos style, he just cheated on her constantly 174 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: throughout the span of their forty four years of marriage. 175 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Um And also, as we know, he spent a lot 176 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: of time abroad as a European ambassador, specifically in London 177 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: and France. UM. So eighteen of those forty four years 178 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: they lived apart. Uh, And apparently she during one of 179 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: those overseas trips, she had a stroke, and Franklin didn't 180 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: even come back to Philadelphia, UH to see her, and 181 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: she she died alone, um in seventeen seventy four, which 182 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: is a shame anyway you look at it. To continue 183 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: these reasons of his uh, he mentions, I think no, 184 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: you're alluding to number five when he said this older 185 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: woman that he's described may not be as attractive per Franklin. 186 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: He says the face first, gross, lank and wrinkled, then 187 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: the neck, than the breast, in arms, than the lower parts, 188 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: continuing to the last as plump as ever so that 189 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: covering all above with a basket, and regarding only what 190 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: is below the girdle, it is impossible of two women 191 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: to know an old one from a young one. Here's 192 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: the line I think you're referring to. And as in 193 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: the dark, all cats are gray, the pleasure of corporal 194 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: enjoyment with an old woman is at least equal and 195 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: frequently superior, every knack being by practice capable of improvement. 196 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: That's pretty gross. That's one of the things that leads 197 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: some scholars to say this letter is satirical or comedic. 198 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: He was a well known practical joker and satirist. And 199 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: he also we haven't mentioned this yet, he also never 200 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: sent this letter. He wrote it, We know he actually 201 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: wrote it, but it for some reason was never sent. 202 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: What are some of the other things he named? He 203 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: also again doubles down in that hole like you're doing 204 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: her a favor kind of vibe. Um says, he almost 205 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: like tries to characterize having an affair, because again this 206 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: is talking about a mistress. He's not talking about taking 207 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: a wife, because he basically starts the letter off saying 208 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: you should get married. It's the better idea to get married, 209 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: because that is the most natural state of man. Where 210 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: he can he compares a single man to the one 211 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: part of a pair of scissors and a useless tool, 212 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: and that you know, in order to be truly happy 213 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: and fulfilled, you have to have a wife and have 214 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: that other part of the scissor. Um. But he says, 215 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: but if you're not going to do that, here are 216 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: some tips on how to get you the best possible 217 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: harem of mistress is presumably right, Um, so again virtuous 218 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: to carry on an affair with an older lady. Um 219 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: and he characterized it as such, quote they are so grateful, 220 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: while saying it's less sinful um to sleep with an 221 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: old woman than it is Uh. Then the act of 222 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: quote debauching of a virgin um, which he characterizes being 223 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: ruinous to both lady and gentlemen. Yeah. And then his 224 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: seventh point, the penultimate point, is that the compunction or 225 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: the regret or sorrow is less. Says if you have 226 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: made a young girl miserable, it may give you frequent 227 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: bitter reflections, you might feel bad about it later, but 228 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 1: in this way you will make an older woman happy, 229 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: which is again I know I used the word earlier, 230 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: but it fits. It's kind of gross, right. And he's 231 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: got one more point, which I think you mentioned earlier, 232 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: which is they are so italicized grateful, which just stinks. 233 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: And then he closes the whole letter saying, that's my paradox. 234 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,479 Speaker 1: But still I advise you to marry directly, being sincerely 235 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: your affectionate friend, Benjamin Franklin. Benny Franks So this advice, 236 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, this is something you and I have not 237 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: talked about yet. When we're off air. Do you think 238 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: this letter is sincere or do you think it's some 239 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: draft of a comedic device. I tend to ink that 240 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: it's sincere. I do too, aving what we know about him. 241 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: I hate feeling that. Yeah, because he, as you said, 242 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: his libido was such a driving force in his life 243 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: that later he himself came to feel terrible about it. 244 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: But he was also known for trying to feel up 245 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: almost any woman he found attractive, and he uh he 246 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: treated his wife horribly. His biographer said that he had, 247 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: or one of his biographers, a guy named Albert Henry 248 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: Smith uh said it is no use blinking the fact 249 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: that Franklin's animal instincts and passions were strong and rank, 250 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: and that they led him to the commission of deplorable 251 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: erata in his life, and that the taint of an 252 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: irredeemable vulgarity is much upon this man. I know, and 253 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: this is back, you know, in the early vulgarity. And 254 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: we're harping on this, but it's important that we we're 255 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: not making a hit piece on some American hero, but 256 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: it is crucially, crucially important for us to acknowledge that 257 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: this person was a human being and not just some 258 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: airbrushed ideal of early America, which you know, not not 259 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to say that he didn't do some amazing things. It's 260 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: just that he did a lot of horrible things. And 261 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: when scholars tackle the question of whether Franklin was being 262 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: comedic or serious, they go back to context clues, whether 263 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: the letter was delivered, What other kind of stuff did 264 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: he right? Uh? He for instance, wrote an article about flatulence, 265 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: the Glorious fart or something like that part proudly, proudly uh. 266 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: And that was satire, right, yeah, yeah, that was satire. 267 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: But that was satire with I guess a cause because 268 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: he was saying it's a natural act, don't be ashamed 269 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: of it, that's right. And he had some hypocrisy going 270 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: on there too, right, oh, big time. I mean in 271 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: so many ways. Again, like in Poor Richards, he really 272 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: tries to I don't know if he's trying to do 273 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: it for the for the sake of vanity or whatever, 274 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: but he's certainly all these aphorisms are meant to be 275 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: these virtuous ways of living, these kind of the Tao 276 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: of Ben Franklin kind of things, you know. But he 277 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: he even characterizes sex um as a very utilitarian thing, 278 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: referring it to it as something that should never be 279 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: done for pleasure that should only be done for procreation, 280 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, for the greater good. Um. But obviously he 281 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: did not practice what he preached in that respect at all. 282 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: And he was even um. There was a rumor that 283 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: he was a member of the hell Fire Club, which 284 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: was a group of aristocratic men um who potentially engaged 285 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: in like orgies and you know, all kinds of crazy shenanigans. Yeah, 286 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: and was those rumors. I think at this point we 287 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: still have to say he may have been involved, but 288 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: those the circumstantial evidence was pretty pretty strong. We also 289 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: know that he was Hoaxter, who was a troll for fun. 290 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine him in the age of the internet. 291 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm having a tough time. Uh. He also was known 292 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: for um doing all kinds of weird experiments. He had 293 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: electricity parties when he wasn't holding orgies. Uh. He invented 294 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: his own alphabet. We did a whole episode on that one. Yeah, 295 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: we did check back on that one if you want 296 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: to hear more. And I think we talked a little 297 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: bit about some of his inventions, not all of which 298 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: were amazing. He had a we mentioned this in previous episode. 299 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: He did make bifocals to make the Franklin stove. That 300 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: was his first invention. He made the glass armonica, which 301 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: quickly got a bad reputation due to the lead in 302 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the glass. Oh but you know that, But that's there's 303 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: still this is a really cool instrument. It's got like 304 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: a rotating drum kind of situation where it's like um 305 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: beveled glass orbs, almost like you think of a Christmas 306 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: decoration glass bowls, but they're all joined together. And you 307 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: know it's it's the same idea as playing tones from 308 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: a half filled or various levels of water and wine glasses. 309 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: You rub your finger around it, it creates symnthetic vibration. 310 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: But that they do still exist and if you look, 311 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: if you google it, you can find some concerts of 312 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: classical pieces being played on the modern day armonica. Yes, 313 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: which will not poison people. Of course, this is such 314 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: a ghostly distinct sound, Casey, if you could, could you 315 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: play just a short clip of that soever we can 316 00:19:42,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: hear the music perfect. That's some spooky stuff. Oh, Casey, 317 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: by the way, well, while we've got you here, do 318 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: you think this letter was sincere or meant in jest? 319 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Um, it doesn't seem funny enough 320 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: to be entire It's so hard to say something that 321 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: old from such a different time. But yeah, it's probably 322 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: probably mostly since here I would say, which is yeah. 323 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: Also casey on the case, we have the verdict. So, 324 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: as mentioned in a previous episode, he compiled a list 325 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: of two hundred plus very specific synonyms. If you heard 326 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: our previous episode, then you may know what we're alluding to. 327 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: We would like to introduce you to the return of 328 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: Ben Franklin's two plus synonyms for being drunk. I adore these. 329 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: I never get tired of these. I feel like most 330 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: of these work really well if you say them in 331 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: a Cockney accent. All right, give it a go. I'll 332 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: just do a handful. Let's see and then and then 333 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: we can switch. Awa. He's at a tump over the 334 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: head with Samson's Joe bone. He's Bridgie, He's cat Cha, grinned, capable, crapped, 335 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: cher umbilico, cherry, mary wumple, cropped, cracked, concerned, halfway to Concorde. 336 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: He's taken a chipping glass, cut cones in his head, 337 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: a cup too much. I don't even know how to 338 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: say this one. He's his copper, He's crocus catched, he's 339 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: cut his capers. He's been in the cellar. He's in 340 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: the cups, non compost, cocked, curried cut, chipper, chickory, loaded 341 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: his cars. Okay, I like to do a few as well. 342 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Uh there's My favorites are the ones that don't make 343 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: too much sense in the modern day. So stuff like 344 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: I'll do a different English action, stuff like he makes 345 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: Virginia fence. He's disguised with a Z. He's right before 346 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: the wind with all his studying sales out. He's been 347 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: too free with Sir John Strawberry. He's drunk as David 348 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: sal He's seen the Yellow Star. He's as stiff as 349 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: a ringboat. His shoe pinches him. He's staggerished. He's polite, 350 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: he's wasted, he's paunch. He's been amongst the Philippians. He's 351 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: contending with Pharaoh. And what what I think is uh 352 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: weird about that is a while back I cooked up 353 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: the euphemism that I like to use for when someone's 354 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: had too much to drink, which was they're very charming. 355 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: My mom likes that very charming. I love that some 356 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: of these are just again we're going through alphabetically, but 357 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: he's eat a toad and a half for breakfast. Yeah, 358 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: he's he owes no man a farthing. He says as 359 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: good conditioned as a puppy. He smelt of an onion, 360 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: Which is so much of these euphemisms are just all 361 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: dependent on intonation. Right. Oh, he's going to Jerusalem. He's 362 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: got the gout, He's had a kick in the guts, 363 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: been with Sir John goa man at Geneva, globular, got 364 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: the Glanders. He's been before, George before, George, George heavy. Yeah, 365 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why he's apparently been. Franklin was trolling 366 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: some people. I like to think that he had a 367 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: friend named George and he was trying to make fun 368 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: of him, making a figure of speech. I don't know. Now, 369 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: that's a question I wanted to ask you. Man. I 370 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: feel like this is sort of an anthropological experiment where 371 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: he's overheard these in various pubs throughout his travels and 372 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: he's documenting them. That's the official explanation. But some of 373 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: these few all styled upon I would agree with you, 374 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, so let us know what your favorite one 375 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: is a lot of biblical ones. Going to Jerusalem, Ben 376 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: to Jericho, My favorite straightforward one is he's intoxicated. He's 377 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: had too much to drink. Did you see nim topsical? 378 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: He's nim topsical. That's like some Sioux stuff, right right? Uh? 379 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: Or oxycrosium. Uh. So none of this, despite the fact 380 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: that we both obviously think this is hilarious. Uh, none 381 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: of this mitigates his overwhelmingly gross activities with women. Uh. 382 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: In his his letter, which is pretty short, you can 383 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: read in full online his letter does it sounds like 384 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: to all three of us come off more sincere than 385 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: uh coming off as a satirical piece, you know what 386 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean? And thus ends the story of one of 387 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: Ben Franklin's most famous or infamous unsensed letters. But this 388 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: does not end our show, nol. I propose that we, uh, 389 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: that we take a trip into a segment we haven't 390 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: done in a while. Listener mail sounds great, man, what 391 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: do we have? Our first listener mail comes from Christine 392 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: See and it is in regards to our tooth fairy episode. 393 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Christine writes, my kids had the worst tooth fairy ever. 394 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: She was consistently late. After a while, she started leaving 395 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: notes explaining why a little notes written with pink or 396 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: purple gelpin. One fairy was fighting in a civil war. 397 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: One was in drug rehab for a fairy dust addiction. 398 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: There were many others. I remember one of my daughters 399 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: actually gave back some of the money to help. UH. 400 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: These day are like tooth fairies. UM love the show, Christine, 401 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: that's that's really funny. That's great. Thank you so much 402 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: for writing. And we have received some great stories from 403 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: everyone about their own tooth fairies avariances. Here's one from 404 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: Mike T. Mike T says, gentlemen enjoyed the episode about 405 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: the tooth Fairy. Didn't realize how recent that entity is. 406 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: Since you asked, I had a fairly unorthodox approach to 407 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: interacting with my daughter when she started losing teeth. This 408 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: was about eight years ago. Instead of money, she got 409 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: a poem under her pillow. The poem was purportedly from 410 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: the tooth Fairy, and they were centered around the tooth loss. 411 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: I still have a collection of about five or six 412 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: of them on the computer, the Lost Teeth Chronicles. At 413 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: some point our daughter actually wrote a letter to the 414 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: tooth Fairy trying to figure out why she wasn't getting 415 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: any money. She was pretty upset about it. I think 416 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: she still has the reply from the tooth Fairy in 417 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: her drawer somewhere anyway, Thanks Mike. So it sounds like 418 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: we have a lot of parents who are taking an 419 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: innovative and original approach to the tooth fairy story. I 420 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: think that's pretty cool too, and it was not something 421 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: that I really considered, but why not make it your 422 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: own right? Absolute Lee? And since this practice is fairly recent, 423 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: who knows the practice that you invent with your loved 424 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: ones may become the like, the dominant thing, you know 425 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: what I mean? A few decades from now, people may 426 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: be getting two fairy poems instead, or tooth fairy correspondence 427 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: instead of Quarters or Nichols, or however works out with inflation. 428 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: I'll have to check the episode out again. This concludes 429 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: our listener mail, but not our show. Thank you so 430 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: much for listening. Please tune in for our next episode, 431 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: when we uncover what may be the one of the 432 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: real life inspirations for the Tail of Rapunzel. In the meantime, 433 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: you can find Casey Nolan myself all over the internet 434 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: where on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all that jazz. We've got 435 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: a community page where you can meet our favorite part 436 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: of the show, your fellow listeners. It's called Ridiculous Historians. 437 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: And if you want to find us personally on Instagram, 438 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: we can help you out with that too. I am 439 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: at ben bullying, I am at embryonic Insider. Big thanks 440 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: to our super producer Casey Pegram as always Alex Williams, 441 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: who composed our theme. Yeah, oh, I was just hype 442 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: manning you. I know you are a big fan of 443 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: all of these folks. Um as am I and of 444 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: course um our research associate Gabe. Yes, yes, thanks so much. 445 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: Uh and Noel, thanks for thanks for hanging out with 446 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: me as we dive once again into you know what. 447 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we did something important in this episode, 448 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: but I can't resist going back to those synonyms for 449 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: being drunk. Oh, I know they're They're just too much fun. 450 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: If you haven't made up synonym for being drunk, go 451 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: ahead and send it to us as well. Yeah, you 452 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: can also just do that at Ridiculous at how stuff 453 00:28:50,880 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: works dot com. We will see you next time in 454 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: four