1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should Know from house stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there. Lights 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: are turned down here. We got our croovy pad going 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: super swinging style. Why I couldn't get square? Could I 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: couldn't get more squares? That what you're saying? Square? Square? Yeah? Square? 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Well could I answer my question? Uh, you're not square? 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: I bet you got a lava lamp in your house. 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: I don't. Actually I never have, really never have had 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: one of you. I've I would love one. I think 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: I had one. I think we had one in college 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: and one of our houses. I doubt very seriously it 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: was a uh trademark original lava lamp. Lava lamp. Yeah, 14 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: but um it was probably a knockoff because I don't 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: think it worked great. There's a lot of knockoffs from 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: those you can get little cheapis now that there's no 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: good right you want the real one? Yeah? And I 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: think if for no other reason than to support the original, 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: the o G stuff handmade in the UK. Yeah, still, yeah, 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: you believe that I do. Actually that's great based on 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: on the woman who owns it now. She seems like 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: the type who would just be like sticking to it. Yep. 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: I could make way more money, but I'm not going 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: to because it's the way it should be done. That 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: is how it started. I'm staying with tradition. That's how 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 1: she does it. So we're talking about lavelmps and actually, Chuck, 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: can you just give me a second here before we 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: get started? Can I give a little plug? Okay? So, um, 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: as you know, but I want to share with everybody else. 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: On October eight, I will be doing a live show 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: on existential risks. It's called Existential Risks or How I 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 1: Learned to Start worrying and Love Humanity. It's pretty great show. Um, 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: there's slides involved, there's um doom and gloom, maybe a 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: little bit of optimism. Who knows, there's some humor mixed in. 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a pretty good show. Um. I did 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: a similar show at the Bellhouse a couple of years back. 37 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: This is a totally brand new show, so even if 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: you saw it then this will be new to you. 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: But it's October eight at the Bellhouse and if you 40 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: happen to want to go, Tickets are available at the 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Bellhouse ny dot Com. Dude, I would be there with 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Bells on. I will list you, but I'll be in California. 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna list you anyway. Yeah. Like, uh, former 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: Falcons coach Jerry Glanville used to leave tickets for Elvis 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: at every Falcons game. That's smart, it's stupid because those 46 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: are two tickets. It could have gone to me. Oh 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: that's a good point, just dumb. Oh hey did you 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: uh are you gonna be on the radio for the Chiefs? 49 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Do you know you turn it down? I kept forgetting 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: to respond. I was out of town, so it already 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: came and went. Yeah. It was just for those of 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: you wondering why we're just talking and chit chatting. Uh, 53 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: And I wish I had his name? Can you find it? 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: The some of the guys from the voice of the 55 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs radio that they played a preseason game 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: against the Falcons this last Friday in Atlanta and invited 57 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: us to be on the field and in the booth. 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: And I was out of town for my niece's wedding. 59 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: Congratulations Shelby and Dan. Oh hey yeah, congrats and uh 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: it was two family weddings, two out of town family 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: wedding weekends in a row. So congratulations also to Alex 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: and Catherine, Alex's Emily's cousin. Okay, so we went to Columbus, Ohio, 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: and then Jacksonville, North Carolina. Lucky went to these weddings, 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and uh, I was not able to go to the 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: Falcons game. Well that's quite a sacrifice because a guy 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: named Dan Israel Dan Dan invited us to hang out 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: in the broadcast for the preseason game between the Falcons, 68 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: and it should have been so all over that and 69 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I presumed to help call the game something. Oh yeah, 70 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I would guess. I'm pretty sure he would have put 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: us on. Well I told him at email them back 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: said thanks, but if you ever come back, let me 73 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: know do it. I just remembered I got to respond 74 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: to him and say thanks, can I come? I just 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: needed fire up the way back machine. So so that's 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: a lot of chit chat. Yeah, if you don't like 77 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: our sides and tangents and stuff, I'll bet you hate 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: this episode already. But the net net of all that 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: is I'm doing a live show. If done a live show, 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: the net net of all that is that we're about 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: to talk lava lamps. Dude, that's the net Net corporate goon. 82 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: This was I think you've wanted to do this one 83 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: for a bit, right, No, No, okay, I just made 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: that up then, no I I Um, I was like 85 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: trying to come up with an episode idea. Sometimes it's 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: harder than others. I don't know if you've noticed he's 87 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: getting tougher, but um, the world's getting smaller. I remembered 88 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: we did that one on food fads. I was like, 89 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: that was an interesting episode. Let me go see if 90 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I can find another fat and one of them that 91 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: came up with this pet Rocks article about laval app 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: maybe we should do pet Rocks one day. So I 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: was like, all right, let me see if this is 94 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: any good and it was okay, But then I found 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: an article by Zachary Crockett on prisonomics, which is one 96 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: of the better websites of all time. Zachary Crockett is 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: one of the better like nonfiction magazine writers of all time. 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Agreed on the web and um, this article the lava 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: imp just Won't Quit really kind of gave a boost 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: to the stuff on how stuff works. Yeah, so let's 101 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: go back in time. Let's hop in the old way 102 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Back Machine. Well, and speaking of we actually have way 103 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Back Machine T shirts now, I know in our t 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: public dot com store. Yeah, I got a bunch of 105 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: different merch now. Alright, but we're on our own version 106 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: of the way Back Machine, which is better than what's 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: on that T shirt. Okay, And we're going back to 108 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: in the County of Dorset in England, and a little 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: boy named Edward Craven Walker is born. He would grow 110 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: up and we follow him in the way Back Machine 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: as he's growing. He eventually becomes an r AF pilot 112 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: in World War Two. Looks like everything's going normal and smoothly. Yeah. 113 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: He he actually flew recon missions, photographic missions where they 114 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: would you know, go up in planes and take pictures 115 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: of what the enemy is doing. And uh. He eventually 116 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the war ended, and after the war he said, I'm 117 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: gonna go live in this little trailer in London behind 118 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: a pub and build us uh travel agency. Yeah. He 119 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: actually created a home swapping program like Airbnb. This is 120 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: in like the fifties. Interesting. Yeah, he's pretty ahead of 121 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: his time. He was in a lot of ways. It 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: seemed like, so again, everything's going pretty normally, right, Yeah, 123 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: he's just he's just travel agent ing and doing quite 124 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: well at it, I think. And uh, he goes to 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: the southern coast of France and what this author calls 126 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: a life changing trip. Uh, and he comes back a 127 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: nudist filmmaker, underwater nudist filmmaker. I think he did drugs 128 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: down there. What do you think what that means? I 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: just think he took his clothes off for the first 130 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: time ever and was like, I had never really noticed 131 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the breeze before. This is nice. You think it just 132 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: feels like drugs were involved. It's possible, but he seemed 133 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: to not really think too highly of drugs, so I 134 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: think it was more just like act. You're probably right. 135 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: He became a nudist, is what it was. Yeah, I 136 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: think you're right. So he took his clothes off for 137 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the first time. He was a never nude before that. 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: And uh. In nineteen sixty he actually, under a pseudonym, 139 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: made a movie called Traveling Light. It was a short 140 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: film with a naked lady performing underwater ballet that, believe 141 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: it or not, did okay in London had a six 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: month run. When's the Last Movie You Knew? Had a 143 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: six month run at a major theater in London. Titanic, 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: maybe it was Luck. Probably Avatar is the last one, 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: but probably so so. That was actually Chuck part of 146 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: a trilogy Tatanic, No we Traveling Light? Oh what were 147 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: the other two? Sun Swept? Because I was trying to 148 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: get information. I was trying to watch it and I 149 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: couldn't find anything. I'll bet you were Um, I know 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't find it either, but I found some mention 151 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: of it and I saw the movie poster forward or whatever. Um, 152 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: but it was. It was I think preceded by a 153 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: movie called eaves On skis New to Skiing Trip. Sun 154 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: Swept sounded like what what this is describing as um 155 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: traveling Light? And then Traveling Light was actually I think 156 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: the second of the three. It's actually a sweet little 157 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: trilogy pre porn, time and humanity when like, yeah, like, hey, 158 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: here's just a naked person skiing as titilating as we get. 159 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I've seen it referred to as new to propaganda films, 160 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: which is basically like, look, this is like this is 161 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: the life I went to the South of France. Now 162 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: you can too, and it's certainly not pre porn. I 163 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: was kidding about that. We should do an episode on pornography. 164 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we've done one on nudism New 165 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: Beaches at least. Yeah, we should do one I porn. 166 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: That'd be good. We should that. That could be a 167 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: two parter. That's maybe even like three or four, Yeah, 168 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe five or six. Yeah, alright, I'm a rusty porn 169 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: you should know. So. Um, here's the thing about Edwin 170 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: Craven Walkers film um film career. Yes, he he was 171 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: very successful at it. He became something of a legend, 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: and he invested his money in building a nudist camp. Yeah, 173 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: He's like, I got all this dough and here's what 174 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: I want to do with it. So I'm sure a 175 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: few of you are like, hose about lava lamps. Chill 176 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: out now we've reached the part where the lava lamps coming, 177 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: that's right, and lava apps come in one day. And 178 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: I think the mid fifties where um Edward Craven Walker 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: and I believe it's hyphenated. Actually craven Walker is his 180 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: last name. Oh is that the deal? And he's hanging 181 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: out in a pub called the Queen's Head. The Queen's 182 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: Head that's a new forest in the southwest of London 183 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: and he's sitting at a bar ordering a beer pint 184 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: and um, he notices on the bar along with the 185 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: liquor bottles, there's a cocktail shaker. But there's weird bubbles 186 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: floating around in it. Yeah, glass one too, not like 187 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: a steel one. Right, And there's actually you can see 188 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: pictures of it on the matha most site. Oh really 189 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: the original thing? Wow? Yeah. Yeah. So he's sitting there 190 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: about to drink, like you said, and it's got water 191 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: and oil and there's a little camp stove underneath it 192 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: heating it and uh it, you know, it looks like 193 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: a little what would become a lava lamp. It's got 194 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: the oils and little blobs and it's floating around. It's 195 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: the thing. It we all recognize now. But when this 196 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: dude sees it back then and no one had ever 197 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: seen anything like this, he was like, wow, what what 198 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: is that? Right? And the bartender was like, that's an 199 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: egg timer. Yeah, kind of a weird answer, but that's weird. 200 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what That's what the lava lamp started 201 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: out as, is an egg timer. There was a guy 202 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: named Great Trivia Question. It is a guy named Alfred Dunnett, 203 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: who was a regular at the Queen's Head in New Forest, 204 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: Um had built this thing where it was this glass 205 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: cocktail shaker on a camp stove, just a little tiny 206 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: camp stove, Um, and he put oil in the water 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: and when the oil rose to the top, by the 208 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: time it took the heat up and rise to the top, 209 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: it meant that your egg was fully hard boiled. It 210 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: was an egg timer. But Edward craven Walker saw this 211 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: and said, no, no, no, this is way more than 212 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: an egg timer. This is the most mesmerizing thing I've 213 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: ever seen. And so he did it right. He found 214 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: out that Alfred Unnat had passed away, but apparently he 215 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: had a patent on the same timer. So Edward craven 216 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Walker went to to Um, the widow of Alfred Dunnet, 217 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: and said, hey, how about you saw me this patent 218 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the history of bad deals. But here's the thing. You 219 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and I'm going to retort. Well, I mean 220 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: I might even retort for you, because when you look 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: at the history of business and bad deals. He got 222 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: this patent for less than twenty pounds. But at the 223 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: same time, Dunnett's widow was probably like what in the world. 224 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Why would anyone ever care about this? Right, it's just 225 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: sitting there. And not only that, this guy doesn't want 226 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: to make an egg timer. He wants to make something 227 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: bigger out of this thing. So he actually rescued a 228 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: patent from obscurity and improved on it. And by the way, 229 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: West Egg doesn't convert for pounds and strictly USD. But 230 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: there's a site called I am kate which does um 231 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: inflation calculation for pounds. Oh interesting, So twenty pounds according 232 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: to I am kate says, it would be about seven 233 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: three pounds today, which is about a thousand dollars roughly. 234 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: So that's not bad. Yeah, here's a thousand bucks that 235 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: you were totally not expecting for something you were never 236 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: going to do anything with. I'm going to take it 237 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: and presented to the world. Yeah. So he gets a 238 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: bottle um. It's called Treetop Orange Squash. It was a 239 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: drink that he used to drink as a kid and 240 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: stud I think, so, I don't think it has this 241 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: original shape, but the shape of that bottle more or 242 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: less is sort of what the shape of the glass 243 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: of the any lava lamp that you see today. Looks 244 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: like yeah, you look at it and you're like, oh, yeah, 245 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: of course that would be the prototype. And so he 246 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: gets a thing. He gets a couple of liquids. It 247 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: is not oil and water like I probably thought before 248 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I researched this. It is water and why acts and 249 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: they are what's known and we'll get into the science 250 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: in a minute. But mutually insoluble, meaning uh that they 251 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: don't dissolve into one another like oil and water. And 252 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: he adds a few other little chemicals here and there, 253 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: and it got a little light bulb, screwed it into 254 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: a base and kind of hooked it all up and 255 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: bought a being bought a boom. The astro lamp, the 256 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: astro lamp, as he called it, was born. Yeah, there 257 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: was an astro light astro lamp. Okay, the astro lamp. 258 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: That's another trivia question for you. The original name of 259 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: the lava lamp was the astro lamp. Should we take 260 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: a break, I think so. All right, we'll be back 261 00:14:39,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: right after this and talk about science. All right, Chuck, science, 262 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk science because there's actually some physics behind 263 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: the lava lamp, and we're going to explain it because 264 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: it's actually understandable. Yeah, who was the guy who wrote 265 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: this again, Zachary Crockett. But this is a how stuff 266 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: works article that explains the physics. Oh the inside the 267 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: lamp part, because I thought that was kind of cute. Actually, 268 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: the bullet points for that are. The things that you 269 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: need are a compound that makes up floating blobs blobs 270 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: and quotes, a compound that the blob floats in. There 271 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: wasn't in quotes that time, and then a lamp that 272 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: illuminates the display and provides the necessary heat to move 273 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: the blobs again no quotes. Yeah, that's it though, But 274 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: that's what, Yeah, what you need. But we're gonna talk 275 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: about more science as far as mutually insoluble liquids go. Right, 276 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: because it sounds really easy, right, You got your blobs, 277 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: you got your liquid, the blobs floating, you got your 278 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: light to heat the whole thing up. Easy peasy. It's 279 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: actually really hard because what you're walking is a very 280 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: fine line between something that will work as a lava 281 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: lamp and something that will just not work at all 282 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: and look like a lava lamp gone bad, right, exactly. Um, 283 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: So you've got you've got admissible compounds compounds that don't 284 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: um dissolve into one another, but you need to have them. 285 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: They need to have pretty similar densities, not exactly the 286 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: same because then it won't work, but not too different 287 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: either because then that won't work either. And you'll understand 288 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: why in a second. They need to be fairly close. 289 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: And so the reason why UM Edward Edward Craven Walker 290 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: used wax and water is because water plane old fresh 291 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: water has a density of one point Oh, it's basically 292 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: the set point for densities. Paraffin Wax has a density 293 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: of point eight, which means that it's slightly less dense 294 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: than water, but right very close. So if you heat 295 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: up UH something, it tends to expand right correct. When 296 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: it expands, it becomes less dense, which means that something 297 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: that was more dense before will be less dense, meaning 298 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: that if it's in some other liquid that's denser, this 299 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: less dense thing will float to the top. Yeah. If 300 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: it's less dense, it rises. If it's more dense, it 301 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: will fall. Uh. And that's why you know, if you 302 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: want to change this density and then make these molecules 303 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: UH spread out. One of the things you can do, 304 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: especially in the case of a lava lamp, is to 305 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: heat it up. That's the point of that bulb at 306 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of the lava lamp. Yeah, because if you 307 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: see lava lamp, it's not turned on. You just see 308 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: the blob at the bottom and the fluid. It's not water, 309 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: of course, uh, sitting at the top, and they're separated, 310 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: but they're just sitting on top of one another. Right, 311 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: And it actually is water. Oh is it really? I 312 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: thought it was something else too, the some other some 313 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: other stuff, but the liquid that the blobs are in 314 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: is mostly water. Yeah. So here's the thing. When you 315 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: turn on the lava lamp. You turn that that heat 316 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: that you start the heat of the light bulb, and 317 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: that wax begins to warm up and it liquefies. And 318 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: as it liquefies, it becomes less dense, and things get 319 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: really exciting at that point, right, And then it starts 320 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: to flow to the top. Right, You're like, all right, 321 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: things are happening. It actually forms what are called stalagtites. Yeah, 322 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: and everyone's like you feeling it yet, right, right? And 323 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: as it starts to form stealactites, they eventually the tops 324 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: of them break off and it floats up to the 325 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: top and you're like, I'm definitely feeling it. And then um, 326 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: as it gets to the top of the lamp, it's 327 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: far enough away from the heat source that it starts 328 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: to cool down, and so it sinks again to the bottom, 329 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: and as it does, it passes another globe that's on 330 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: the way to the top, and when it reaches the bottom, 331 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: the whole process starts over again, and that wax glob 332 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: gets reheated, and it goes back up and it passes 333 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: on the way up the glob that it just passed 334 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: coming back down, and that's a lava lamp. And it's 335 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: again it sounds simple, but to get the wax density 336 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: and the water density just right, you have to add 337 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: some other ingredients. And so, going back to the original 338 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: prototype that was created by Edward Craven Walker, it's really 339 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: impressive that this guy with zero chemistry training whatsoever, managed 340 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: to do this, ever, let alone, and just less than 341 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: a decade. Yeah, I mean, I imagine there was a 342 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of trial and error trying to get that thing 343 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: just right. Because again, like I said, if I mean 344 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: you think it sounds easy to build one on your 345 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: own and prepared to be disappointed, and you can you 346 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: can make one with oil water food coloring and then 347 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: alca seltzer. It's called it's called a Yankee lava lamp. 348 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: It's terrible. But this is nothing like this, Yeah, because 349 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: what the whole point of a lava lamp is to 350 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: create this mood and to have these amorphous blobs separating 351 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: and floating around and rising and falling, and that's the 352 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: whole effect. You know. It wasn't meant to be a 353 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: lamp to give much light. It's to create mood and atmosphere. 354 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: And as we will see, we keep making little druggy jokes. Uh. 355 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: That was a big part of why they sold. But 356 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a minute. But you were 357 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that it was impressive. Uh. It 358 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: says only five or six people actually know that this 359 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: exact formulas still that who worked for the real lava 360 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: lamp company, And there are plenty of knockoffs, but that original, uh, 361 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: that original lava lamp recipe is is not known by 362 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: many people, very closely guarded. Yeah. Even in Craven Walker's 363 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: original patent, it has the ingredients, but it doesn't say 364 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: in what quantities or anything like that. It's still a 365 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: trade secret to this day. Yeah. And you also he 366 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: figured you had to uh, there was a lot of 367 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: trial and error because he had to add the water 368 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: um very slowly apparently, or else it becomes what's known 369 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: as an emulsion, meaning it's just sort of mixed together. Yeah, 370 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Like you can conceivably mix oil and water together, especially 371 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: if you have an emulsive fire, but you can also 372 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: do it by stirring it really really fast, and it'll 373 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: it'll mix together, and that's not what you want. You 374 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: want them to be separate from the first moment they 375 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: come in contact together in the lamp globe. Right, So 376 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: nine h three years I think it took him to 377 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: finally get the design right. He called it the astro lamp. 378 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: He built a little factory in his backyard and his 379 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: wife at the time, I think he's married four times, 380 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: but she was like, you know, he was the type 381 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: of guy that would finish this thing once he started it, 382 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: and he did, and originally he decided that it was 383 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: it fit really well in with this post World War 384 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: two British demand for very flamboyant, colorful home furnishings. Yeah, 385 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: He's like, this is nothing if not flamboyant and colorful. 386 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: The original Lava lamp was yellow liquid water and red 387 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: wax globs on a gold base. Great looking, groovy as 388 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: groovy gets right, Um, But he originally envisioned it is like, 389 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: this is something for a cool bachelor pad. If you 390 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: were a wealthy bachelor and you're looking to put something 391 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: that's very interesting and high end as a home furnishing, 392 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: try the Astro lamp. It was originally envisioned as a 393 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: high end home furnishing. Yeah. There there's this one great 394 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: ad that had a the scene of a bachelor pad 395 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: on a magazine page and the caption said, the perfect 396 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: gift for one's relatives, one's friends, and dash it all 397 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: oneself by three yeah, exactly, by three of them. So 398 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: this actually didn't work out very well for Craven Walker 399 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: because he and his wife were driving around in their 400 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: vein in going to places like Herod's and getting a 401 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: very chilly reception to these things. Apparently the Herod's buyer 402 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: thought the lamps were disgusting and ordered them taken away. 403 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I can't imagine seeing them as disgusting. 404 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Maybe there was like pubic care stuck to the outside 405 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: of or something that can make a lava lamp disgusting, right, well, 406 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: I imagined at the time, especially in stuffy old England. Uh, 407 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: this postwar transition wasn't uh met with open arms by everybody. 408 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure the traditionalist thought it was disgusting, this blobby 409 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: thing floating around, especially with the pubic care. So um 410 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: Craven Walker, Uh, he was like, well, fine, I'm just 411 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: gonna create my own company and I'll market it myself. 412 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: So we formed crest Worth, which is the original company 413 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: that put out the astro lamp, which we know and 414 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: love is lava lamps. And I should say, there are 415 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different names for lava lamps and it's 416 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: really tough to distinguish which one is actual trademarks. So 417 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: lava lamp seems to be a generic term, lava light, 418 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: it seems to be generic. But Lava all caps is 419 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: a trademark name for the American version. But there doesn't 420 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: seem to be a trademark name for the lava lamp, 421 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: the original one in England. They just call it a 422 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: lava lamp. I thought it was lava lamp was the 423 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: trademarked because not that I can see our dumb article 424 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: caused them motion lamps. Well that I thought that was 425 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: to avoid the generic term. Yeah, I thought they were 426 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: doing that to avoid saying lava lamp. No, that's so 427 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: like two thousand five how stuff works, Like call it 428 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: the generic term. You know, it's not kleenex, it's facial tissue. 429 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's totally where why they call it that? 430 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh goodness, you're so right. Alright, so these things aren't 431 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: selling to the rich and powerful. They did not see 432 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: his luxury at him. But then the nineteen sixties are 433 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: rolling along l st. He comes on the scene. Pink 434 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Floyd is in the back room, the Yardbirds are upfront. 435 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Sid Barrett is for freaking out. He's freaking out. And 436 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: this thing, really, the astro lamp really fit in uh 437 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: to this whole scene, Like he was just he was 438 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: miss marketing this thing from the beginning. He was. I 439 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: I think he didn't predict the sixties psychedelicy. He was 440 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: more into like the swinging Austin Powers bachelor stuff that 441 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: was pre psychedelic and moved into psychedelia. Um, but he 442 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: should thank his lucky stars, and I'm sure he did 443 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: more than once that the psychedelic thing happened. Because when 444 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: that happened and the hippies in London found out about 445 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: lava lamps, lava lamps took off, just shot off like 446 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: a rocket. And at first Edward Craven Walker was not 447 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: not entirely cool with this. I mean he was happy 448 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: to have the money and his lamp was finally a 449 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: six US, but he knew what people were buying these 450 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: four They were buying them so that they could take 451 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: acid and stare at him for eight hours, right, And 452 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: he actually had an ad where he said, if you 453 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: buy my lamp, you won't need drugs, which is l seven. Yeah, 454 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: because the ed should have read this goes great with drugs, 455 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Like drugs, you're gonna love my lamp. Like that is 456 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: the level of dedication this guy should have had to LSD, 457 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: because LSD made him a very wealthy person. Like in 458 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: a very short amount of time. Should we take a break, 459 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna talk about how they hit America 460 00:26:36,080 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: right after this, all right, So they're taking off in England. 461 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: He takes these things to a trade show in Germany, 462 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: and a couple of dudes named Adolf Votheima and William 463 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: Rubinstein I'm pretty sure they didn't say their names like that. 464 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: They're from Chicago. Yeah, so they were just good Midwestern Germans. 465 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: And they said, I'm gonna I want to buy to 466 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: I want to buy the North American manufacturing rights. We're 467 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna call it the Lava LIGHTE L I T E. 468 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: And we have our own drug culture that's starting to 469 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: boom over here. And I think he used to be 470 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: a big hit, and they were, and they got him 471 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: on TV, they got placement, they got him in Doctor 472 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: Who that was huge, got in The Avengers, uh not, 473 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: you know the old TV show The Avengers. Yeah, it 474 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: says here though it was on James Bond. And I 475 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: looked high and low for what they were talking about, 476 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: and I actually came across a post on the Internet 477 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: of all places by a m a guy who who 478 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: runs a website. Oh, Anthony Vaz runs a website. I 479 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: can't remember the name of it. I think maybe Lava 480 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: Love or something like that, but he was on there 481 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: saying I saw this in an article that it says 482 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: it was in a James Bond film. What James Bond 483 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: film are they talking about. I'm like a James Bond 484 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: like fan for him. They're like, no idea, Bud, And 485 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: if we don't know, it didn't happen. So I have 486 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: no idea what what James Bond film? It was in 487 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: the first giveaway to me that that's bogus is here's 488 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: the sentence. A red model debut in the nineteen seventy 489 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm Sorry sixty eight episode of Dr Who. This is 490 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: followed by appearances in The Prisoner, The Avengers, and James Bond. 491 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: Talk about generic Remember the movie James Bond. We should 492 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: ask the great Mett Gorley does he know James Bond 493 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: at the Super Ego podcast? Yeah? Okay, he's an officient 494 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: not he hosts there you go tast called James Bonding. 495 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: There you go. I bet Gorley would now so on 496 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: that for him. Somebody's like, maybe that wouldy allan spoof 497 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: Casino Royal. But I couldn't find any mention of lava 498 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: lamps in that movie either, So who knows. But they 499 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: made some product placement, uh they were They were starting 500 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: to pop up all over the place, and apparently Edward 501 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: Craven Walker knew that he'd made it. His wife later 502 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: recounted when they found out that Ringo Starr had just 503 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: bought one in n I love it. He also might 504 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: know he made it by the fact that he sold 505 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: seven million of them annually by the end of the sixties. 506 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Apparently he was so h eccentric that he would he 507 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: drove a fire truck. Yeah, he'd rid around in a 508 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: fire truck. Yeah. He also, um drove nothing if it 509 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: was a car, nothing but British made jaguars. Well, yeah, 510 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Sure, Um, well, it depends on 511 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: the year, because they had some pretty terrible jaguars for 512 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: a while. They're in the eighties. Uh so these uh, 513 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: like any fad would go away, and in the late seventies, 514 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: the lava lamp, I remember the lava lamps kind of 515 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: just worn't around that much anymore. By the time we 516 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: were kids, they didn't even have like kitchy appeal any longer. 517 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: They were just like like everyone became the Herod's buyer, 518 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: like these are disgusting, get them out of here. But 519 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: he was smart enough to know that fads come back around. 520 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: He did not shut down the business. He did not 521 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: just sell it off for pennies on the dollar. No, 522 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: he kept releasing new stuff. Yeah, nothing really took I 523 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: tried to find any like his other little inventions, but 524 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't really get much. So nothing made the waves 525 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 1: that the astro lamp did. And by the late nineteen 526 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: eighties they declined to about a thousand lamps per year. 527 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: That is so few from seven million a year. Yeah, 528 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean even you would think you'd get a thousand 529 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: like white elephant gift purchases, like, look, this is the 530 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: dumbest thing I could find. I mean, I guess that's 531 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: what they were, So a thousand year at that point. 532 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: And uh. Then a woman that we mentioned earlier name 533 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: Cressida Granger or Cressida Granger, she's twenty two years old, 534 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: ran an antique booth and saw these things were selling, 535 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: like the vintage ones. These use lava lamps. This is 536 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: back in I think, yeah, And so she was like, 537 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: these things are kind of selling. She got in touch 538 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: with the guy with Craven Walker and said, hey, I'd 539 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: like to buy your company, your partner with you and 540 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: crest Worth. If you're open to it. He said, fine, 541 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: meet me at this newdist camp and she went, all right, 542 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: keep your pants on and I'll do so. And by 543 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: all accounts, they were fully clothed and struck up a 544 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: deal where she would take over operations and managing as 545 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: managing director, and they had a deal in place and 546 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: a great deal for her where she could slowly buy 547 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: his company from him over time. Right, So, so think 548 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: about being twenty two and having that kind of like 549 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: get up and go. I love it that you're like, 550 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm starting to sell some intage lava lamps. I'll go 551 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: see if I can buy the company. But then from 552 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: from Craven Walker's perspective, You're like, I'm down to selling 553 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: a thousand of easy year nothing trying. Yeah, if this 554 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: person wants to like like invest in the company, why not. 555 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: And so Crescitter Granger's timing could not have been better, 556 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: Like she was really prescient to notice that, like the 557 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: vintage lava lamps were selling, The reason the vintage lava 558 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: lamps were selling was because there was an acid revival 559 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: going on the same reason lava lamps sold the first 560 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: time around is the reason they sold the second time around. 561 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: Everybody discovered that they really really like LSD and Lava 562 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: lamps go really really well with LSD well, And not 563 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: only that, but that was with you know, the House 564 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: of Music and Ecstasy and Raves and uh, Austin Powers, 565 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: like that whole thing kind of came back. Well, Austin 566 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: Austin Powers was like a kind of a third wave. Yeah, 567 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: that was mid to late nineties. Yeah, like I think seven. 568 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: So she oversaw a revival of the Lava lamp, a 569 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: resurgence in it, and like I saw the manufacturing uptick 570 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: in it too in the late eighties early nineties, and 571 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: then managed to ride that wave through to the late 572 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: nineties when it ticked up even further because of Austin Powers, 573 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: and they started to sell so much crested. Granger says, 574 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: they sold more in the nineties than they did in 575 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: the sixties. That's amazing. Yeah, And she started the whole 576 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: thing at twenty two, going up to Edward Craven Walker 577 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: Insaine how about it partner, Yeah, and so uh in 578 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: nineteen one, the twenty year patent expired and Granger said that, 579 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, no one realized this, thankfully, and so we 580 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: just kind of kept monopolizing the business and she slowly 581 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: bought it out over time, and I think by ninety 582 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: two she renamed the company Mathmas, which apparently was a 583 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: to of the cap to Barbarella of the film. Yeah, 584 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: that's there's like an energy bubble that it lives underneath 585 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: the city or something, and that's what it's called today 586 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: if you go to the website. Uh, she moved into 587 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: the manufacturing facilities. So she didn't say, hey, let's take 588 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: this state side or take it to China. She said, 589 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing it right here Endorset. And like 590 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: you said at the beginning, that is still where these 591 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: things are made today by hand by British workers. Like 592 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: I think they said, how many of them can a 593 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: good worker making a day amazing filling these bottles by hand? Right? 594 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: So that's if you look at the mathmas Um lava 595 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: lamps and compare the price to when you just find 596 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: online like a knockoff um, which technically they're not a 597 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: knockoff because the patent wore off, but um still a knockoffs. 598 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: It's like eighty bucks compared to like fifteen or twenty 599 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: bucks for what looks to be the same thing. And 600 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: we're actually more like a hundred seven seven pounds. That's 601 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: how much Mathemas is now. Yeah, like their standard the 602 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: original classic lava lamp is seventy seven pounds. Got the 603 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: reason why they're that much more is because they're handmade 604 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: in the UK, just as they have been since the sixties. 605 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: I love it, man, it's pretty cool. And and she 606 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: said that there's a lot of pressure for her to 607 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: transfer production overseas where it's going to be way cheaper 608 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: and she can make way more money. And she's like, nope, 609 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm keeping it here. Um, yeah, they're more expensive, and yeah, 610 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: we would sell more if they were cheaper, but I'm 611 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: just not doing it. If you haven't noticed someone rich woman, right, 612 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I've been I've been pretty well 613 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: off since twenty two. I'm I've got all the acid 614 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: I can take. No, uh, all right, should we talk 615 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: about lava lamp tips? Well, I want to say. I 616 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: want to say one more thing. Um, another thing. That 617 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: another reason I think Kresso Granger is pretty awesome. She 618 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: kept Um Edward Craven Walker on as a consultant, yeah, 619 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: up until his death, even though she had full control 620 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: of the company. I think in whatever um and he 621 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: was done, she kept him on as a consultant until 622 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: he died. And it was two years later. But she 623 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: didn't no one who was going to die unless she 624 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: poisoned him with a lot of acid or something. She 625 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: probably didn't do that, but I thought that was a 626 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: pretty a mark in her favorite for sure, that she 627 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: kept the guy on the original Creator the second Creator 628 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: on as a consultant. I'd like to meet her one day. So, yeah, 629 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: I think we should give some Lava lamp tips because frankly, 630 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: if I were out there listening and this happened to 631 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: me during research, hearing all this stuff, I'd be like, 632 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: I want a Lava lamp. Yeah. So if you buy 633 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: a Lava lamps, there's actually some things you need to 634 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: know about how to use it correctly. Yeah. So the 635 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: h apparently the bottles are replaceable, so they do run 636 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: out after about two thousand hours of operating time, so 637 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: they sell replacement bottles, which is really nice. I don't 638 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: know about this. To to get rid of your old 639 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: bottle and make a hole in the metal cap with 640 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: a sharp point. Yeah. I also saw that you were 641 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: the liquid out. That seems a little unsafe. You're um, 642 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: that's what the Mathemas site recommends. Really, Yeah, to they 643 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: say you can recycle the glass, you just gotta get 644 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: rid of the contents inside. I also saw there's an 645 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: sf Gate article on how to revitalize vintage lava lamps, 646 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: and they say you can get that cap off with 647 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: vice cripts. You should not do that. Don't do that. 648 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck didn't tell you to do that. I'm 649 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: just saying I saw that on SF gate. I don't 650 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: know if I do that. Uh, so recycle it. You 651 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: can get the bottle replaced. The liquid eventually will fade 652 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 1: um at least the color in the liquid. Well, yeah, 653 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: over time. Like we said that, two thousand hours is um. 654 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of hours. It's a lot 655 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: of acid, a lot of trips. Uh, here's another one. 656 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: The lamp the very first time you take it out 657 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: of the box, it may take up to an hour 658 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: and a half to start working, but once you have 659 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: used it, it doesn't take quite that long. Uh. You 660 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: should have your room be at least sixty decrease fahrenheit 661 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: celsius celsius because I think it's too cold. It won't work, right. Yeah, 662 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: and you don't want to near an air conditioner or 663 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: a draft or anything like that, or the sun necessarily. Well, 664 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: the sun will make the color fade that much faster. Yeah, right, 665 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: so you you if it's too cold, it won't work. 666 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: But then they also have a tendency to overheat too. Yeah, 667 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: if you come in your room and you're flying right 668 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: and you're lava lamp is just a single blob and 669 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: it's just a big blob, that means it's overheated or 670 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: the universe is ending around your right now. So eight 671 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: to ten hours, they said, is the max you want 672 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: to run that thing in a row. So yeah, and 673 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: in turn it often let it cool. Yeah, that's there, 674 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: you go, that's your fix. You let it cool and 675 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: then um so no more than eight hours usually for 676 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: normal operation. Um. And then in between uses, let it 677 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: cool completely. And that's just gonna extend the life of 678 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: your wax that much longer. Um. But then another reason 679 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to overheat it is because it is possible, 680 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: and it's probably not possible for it to overheat with them, 681 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: but with the bulb itself like the glass. But one 682 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: thing they say is, never ever ever put that thing 683 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: on a stove, which some people have done. And you 684 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: can understand why you'd want to do that. You got 685 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: a hot date, or your assets kicking in faster than 686 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: you think it's it's taking too long, so you'd put 687 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: it on the stove. You don't want to do that. 688 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: And seriously, at least one person has died from putting 689 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: a lava lamp on a hot stove. Yeah. That it's 690 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: hard to believe, but you sent this over. In two 691 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: thousand four, a young man named Philip Quinn was twenty 692 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: four years old and Kent Washington put his lava lamp 693 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: on a stove. It exploded, uh, and shards of glass 694 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: shut into his heart. He stumbled in his bedroom and died. 695 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: And apparently no drugs or alcohol were involved, so it 696 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was just like messed up and goofing around. 697 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like he just wanted to heat it up faster. Yeah, 698 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: that's what I think. He's impatient, wanted his lava lamp 699 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: heat it up. And then some yahoo drank it right, Yeah, 700 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: some somebody in the In the article on the Annals 701 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 1: of Emergency Medicine, they describe a guy in his mid 702 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: sixties who drank the contents of a lava lamp. Yeah, 703 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: and then immediately regretted it because he spent three months 704 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 1: recovering from kidney failure. Man, what a dummy. And then 705 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: there's one more thing about lava lamps. This is pretty recent. 706 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of awesome. Um, there's a company called cloud Flare. 707 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: I didn't understand this at all, So okay, So whenever 708 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: you're on the web, when you go into a new 709 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: a new website, you're actually I done. You're You're assigned 710 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: a code that you use on that website, and it's 711 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be random or else For some somehow, hackers 712 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: can impersonate you if it's not a random code. Humans 713 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: are not capable of generating random numbers, and the computers 714 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: we program by extension aren't either. Okay, I can generate 715 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: a random number. You can't. It's not random. That would 716 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: be funny if you were like the new Internet security guy. 717 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: He just starts spitting out numbers and foil all the hackers, 718 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: well for now, until they employ you. This company, cloud Flare, 719 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: has a wall of a hundred lava lamps and a 720 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: camera recording their movement. And the the completely random, unpredictable 721 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: movement of these globs on the video screen gets turned 722 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: into pixels, and those pixels get turned into a random number. 723 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: So this random number is generated by the movement of 724 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: lava lamps. And that's how about fift of Internet traffic 725 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: gets their random number security codes generated by a bank 726 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: of lava lamps that cloud Flare's offices in San Francisco. 727 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Of course is in San Francisco. Of 728 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: course they micro dose out there, which I think we've 729 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: been on the chord is looking down on Uh. Do 730 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: you want to hear an interesting tidbit about random numbers? 731 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is tricky works? Quick? 732 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: Give me another random number nine eight six seven five 733 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: three o nine. Well that's my story though. Apparently that 734 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: old song eight six seven five three o nine genny. 735 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: If you go to a store where you have a 736 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,479 Speaker 1: rewards program and they say enter your number, Apparently enough 737 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: people sign up using that number that you can go 738 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: to any store in the country and spit that number 739 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: out and you will get the whatever discount. Try that. Yeah, 740 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: nice work. Like you're traveling, you go into the bev 741 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: Moo or bottle of wine, They're like, you got your 742 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: bevmo card, Like, oh, I'm just in town. We don't 743 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: have bedmos in Atlanta. Just say eight six seven five 744 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: three o nine. That's awesome. And what if they're like, 745 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: you're the one thousand customer or whatever, you're under arrest, 746 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 1: you're chipping and it's bad news from there. It's got 747 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: to be the last acid reference. I don't know, is 748 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: there one in this listener mail coming up? I bet 749 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: we can work one in. So if you want to 750 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: know more about Lava lamps, go get one, and maybe 751 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: you know if you've got the coin, splurge for a 752 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: handmade one from UK for math. Most if not get 753 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: one from Lava like here in the US, you won't judge, 754 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 1: or just get one on Ali Baba or Amazon. Whatever 755 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: floats your boat, Okay. Uh And since I said whatever 756 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: floats your boat, that means it's time for listener mail 757 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: called this board breaking follow up. Sometimes episodes that I 758 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: think like, yeah, it was fine, we get tons of reactions. 759 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: Well this one we just got something wrong, right, Physics, 760 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: well that too, but we had a lot of kata 761 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: te and martial arts. Okay, yeah, people right in enthusiast 762 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: about board breaking. They really were into this. Uh So 763 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: this is a kind of a two parter with a 764 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: little correction in the end. Hey, guys, listening to board Breaking, 765 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like you had a confusing source. I hope 766 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: I can clear it up. You said that when breaking 767 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: a board with a karate chop, you want the grain 768 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: parallel to your hand, but you weren't sure what to 769 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: do with the grain when striking it with a close fist. 770 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: What matters isn't the orientation of the grain compared to 771 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: the hand, but the orientation relative to how the board 772 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: is supported. When stressed, the board naturally wants to crack 773 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: along the grain, not across it, So you want to 774 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: be sure that the grain isn't oriented so that the 775 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: fibers in the wood span from one support to the 776 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: other like the person holding it, or it will be 777 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: too strong. Yeah, when oriented correctly, the grain will be 778 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: parallel to the hand for an open handed chop, but 779 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 1: that's just coincidental with being oriented correctly compared to the supports. 780 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: I hope I was able to say this clearly, guys, 781 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: I can understand why your source had trouble putting it clearly. 782 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: I think that's from David Branson. And then we also 783 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: got a little bit of the formula wrong for force 784 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: equals mass times acceleration. Yes, he said it's force equals 785 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: mass times acceleration, not force equals mass times velocity. The 786 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: thing is with physics like most of those terms are interchangeable. 787 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: It means the same thing. Joe Dyer says, acceleration is 788 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: the derivative velocity. Velocity is the derivative of position. And 789 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 1: Joe also says, yes, I'm an engineer, so I won't 790 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: bust your chops over this. Too bad. Yeah, So thanks 791 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: Joe for being nice, and thanks to everyone who wrote 792 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: in with those corrections and your enthusiasm for board breaking. 793 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: So Joe wrote both of those no, no no, no, Joe 794 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: Dyer wrote that one, and then David Branson of Branson, Missouri, no, 795 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, Okay, he wrote, Well, maybe I don't know, 796 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: probably not nice. Missouri's are nice, that's true. Um. Well, 797 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: thank you David, and thank you Joe, and thank you, 798 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: like you said to everybody who wrote in, um, including 799 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: those of you who wrote in while you were on acid. 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