WEBVTT - Jimmy Fallon Will Never Make Fun of You 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.760 This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing, 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.520 My chance to talk with artists, policy makers, and performers 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.960 to hear their stories. What inspires their creations, what decisions 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:20.040 change their careers, what relationships influenced their work. My guest 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:26.400 is comedian, television host, actor, singer, producer, and author Jimmy Fallon. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.120 Do you know what a podcast is? You know that 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.600 is because you're like old school entertainment. Now you're the 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.279 host of The Tonight Shore. I couldn't get any more 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.320 older than that format. Real to real. You're part of 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.760 a legacy of people who are dead or nearly dead. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.400 As a kid in Upstate New York, legend has it 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:48.640 that Fallon's kindergarten photo had a caption that read most 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:52.520 likely to take over from David Letterman. In fact, after 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.960 a detour to Saturday Night Live and Late Night, Fallon 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.440 eventually succeeded Carson and Leno at The Tonight Show at year. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.679 Since then, he's taken the legendary NBC franchise beyond monologues 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.480 and celebrity interviews to create some of the most viral 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:14.200 moments in recent TV history. Whether He's mom dancing with 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.199 Michelle Obama, lip sync battling with Emma Stone. We're doing 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:22.479 his perfect Neil Young impersonation next to the actual Neil Young. 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:27.000 Jimmy Fallon has become the omnipresent prince of comedy in 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.119 our news feeds. Do you always do this shirt? List? 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.920 Listen to me. What I want to know is what 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:40.800 you're doing right now? Was this the plan? No? What happened? No, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.800 there there was no plan about this at all. My 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.400 ultimate goal was to be on Saturday Night Live. That 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.360 was the dream, beyond dream. I didn't even know I 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.680 could dream bigger than that, or that was it. That 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.279 was the ultimate dream. I'm in Socratuse, New York, Upstate 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.240 New York. I had my sister Gloria, and my mom 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.520 and dad and my grandparents. No one was in the 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.360 business or anything. We had no action to anyone that 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.760 has an agent or anyone from Hollywood or anyone knew 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.920 anyone to knew anything. It was you and your sister. Yeah, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.359 my sister is really funny. Oh yeah, the whole family's board. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.600 But you grew up people thought you were funny. Yeah, 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.400 and you tried to be funny. Yeah. Like if we 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.040 would go out. You know. My parents would have friends over, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.560 have a party, very irish. Our neighbors were Italian, uh, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.840 and we were between both of us. There was a 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.920 party every weekend and it was good. And my parents 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.600 would make me do stand up and they would go, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.200 go do Rodney. So they encouraged you to perform. Yeah 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.040 do Ronnie do Rodney Dangerfield and you would yeah, you 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.240 know how old. Probably it's crazy now, you know, look 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.160 back and go wait, that's right. I did all that stuff. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.240 I remember that. I used to imitate him, and I 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.280 would listen to Rodney records. My dad would have the records, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.320 but they were very you know, overprotective, and so they 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.919 didn't want to hear any dirty words. So my dad 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.080 would take a car key and scratch out the words 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.320 on the record. On the record, you're kidding. I would 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.680 skip over. I still have the record skip over. Ever 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.600 heard of that technique? Before learning the joke, Rodney even said, 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.800 up this whole joke and just skip to another premise. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.160 You know, I'll tell you my wife, you know, she 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.560 came in the back. Get out of here before you 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.120 it's even worse. Yeah, get out of my room before. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.640 So the other day, so I used to guy. I 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.000 used to love his voice and his delivery, and you 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.440 know the sound of that. So I used to imitate 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.360 those jokes. And but I always thought if I was 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.000 cutting a birthday cake, which is normally a Carvel ice 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:30.280 cream cake, or wishing on a star or throwing a 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.520 coin in a fountain, I would secretly wish to be 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.160 on Saturday Life. What are the people? Uh? Did you 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.560 think there? And go? God, he's funny. Steve Martins. So 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.920 Steve Martin was a hero. So who else? Who else? 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:48.200 I listen to? Jose Men is Bob Newhart old school guys? Yeah? 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.440 I love the Smells Brothers. But they weren't not when 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.280 you were a kid. Well I think they were. I 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.600 mean that's how they had to have been. I remember them. Uh, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.720 John Binder's Bizarre Do you remember that? You? Super? Dave Osborne, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.520 Jonathan Winters? I love Jonathan Winter. Did you want to 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.280 go into the business From the beginning it was you 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.400 were Jimmy Fallon said I'm gonna be a cop. I mean, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.080 I'm never going to really get into show business or 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.080 did you think you would? I think in order it started. 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.360 I want to be a baseball player because my grandfather. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.400 They lived in our backyard. My grandparents in like a 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.760 cottage in our backyard. It was legal, but we fed 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.960 them through a slot in the door, I mean. And 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.080 they were from what we hear, they were healthy when 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.359 they died. So I would come from school and I 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.599 go hang out with my grandparents. My mom went chopping 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.279 or something like that, and you know, and my mom 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.840 didn't drive, so she would walk everywhere. My dad barely 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.000 drove there from both from Brooklyn and my grandparents so 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.000 no one in Brooklyn knows how to drive because they 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.160 take caps and buses everywhere. So they taught me how 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.719 to drive. So I'm awful to this day. But I 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.920 would just go home and hang out with them. I 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.039 talk to my grandma and I take things apart and 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.240 try to fix things, and she'd call me. She's like, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.040 you're my Einstein. You're a little at your Einstein. You're 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.520 gonna fix things. Where's the moment you see yourself I 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.200 think I can do is professionally or did you ever 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.200 have that moment? Until years? Like the big thing was 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.440 I heard my mom heard about an impression contest on 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.960 the radio. They said they're gonna be a bananas comedy 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.160 club funniest person in the Hudson Valley contest right outside 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.040 of Socrates, New York, but Keepsie, New York. And they said, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.480 but that was the local comedy club. And they said, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.000 I have two minutes ready of an impression, any impression 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:22.960 you do the best that you do. I did more 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.640 than one. I did. You don't have to do it now, 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.200 But what are some of the impressions you could do 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.080 in my act? I think now, but I did. I 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.279 had a troll doll that someone gave me for my 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.839 high school graduation, which one am I gonna do with that? 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.359 But it said it was a troll doll with the 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.800 graduation cap said like best the luck or something. I 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.080 took the hat off and I said, I'm doing commercials 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.800 for different I want different stars celebrities to be the 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.680 spokesman for this troll doll. Let's start up. First, Jerry Seinfeld, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.480 I go, okay, what got of dolls? Are theys? The hairs? 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.640 His arms on? Av move? This is a doll move 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.800 bins theys eggs. He doesn't even have bands on. And 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.920 then the I can I do? Uh Bill Cosby or 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.320 something like what the look at the thing with the 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.600 lip panguin down and then you see the web the 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.240 troll what drunk? After then I do uh from voter like, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.080 see I can't be dislike look this thing over here 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.160 at my head, Yeah, my head. I did the hair thing, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.560 then did the big joke. The closure was it was boewinkle. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.960 I said, well, maybe I should play with myself. And 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.480 then I pulled out a bow winkled from the back, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.480 and then and then and then the next The last 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.640 person was pee wee herman. I go, I know what 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.880 you mean, blwinkle. I'd like to play with myself, tiff. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.680 It was topical at the time. Crush. That was a 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.840 good thing. It was on two minutes. I ran through 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.280 it and I won first place. You won first place? Yeah, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.000 and so where does that lead to? What happens? I 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.680 made money off that. I forget now how which was 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.080 it was five hundred bucks or somebody have cash? And 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:52.920 I go, oh, my gosh, I got this for two 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.839 minutes of work. This is the biggest money I've ever 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.760 I'll ever have. I laid it on my kitchen table 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.640 and took pictures of it and posed next to it 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.760 and stuff. Uh, it was a big deal, and I go, oh, 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.560 maybe I'll just so that. I started entering contests, talent 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.200 contest and then Banana's Common clubs, So why don't you 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.880 come and start being the m C here? So I 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.080 started doing that. Every weekend. My dad would drive me 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.800 down to the comedy club. We'd stay overnight in the hotel. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.640 I do these things. I opened for Kevin James and 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.280 all these people. Should you should you get into that 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.520 circuit you Lewis Black. Lewis Black was the first time 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.120 I realized what comedies like the idea of having an act. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.120 He was a guy who's talking to me like we're 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.360 talking like, oh, yeah, so your your name is Jimmy, Okay, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:34.960 it's good and you're gonna go out all right, good 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.720 to see it. And then he goes and Lewis Black 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:43.000 and he goes on say he's like Clinton, Little Clinton, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.680 And I go, what what is going on? That's you 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.680 can do that? He was just a normal dude. I go, oh, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.680 he's doing an act. It was unbelievable. Sign Felt even 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.200 told me that about himself. He said, I go up 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.080 on stage when I before he goes, he goes on me, 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.280 but I blow myself up. Yeah, Because we hung out 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.679 with Seinfeld before we're together. Do you find yourself becoming 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.240 him a little bit when you hang out with him? 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.240 I just stare at him. Whenever I'm around him, I 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.880 just stare at him. I'm like, it's signed felt, you know, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.160 he's very normal. I started, then it'll go like we'll 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.920 have we'll talk about the weather boats. Because then the 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.800 funny I'm staring him, We'll go, we're friends. Why are 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.840 you doing that? But he he I started acting like 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:26.120 him in making observational comedy about anything. Like he called 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.680 me up for the comedians and cars thing, and so 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.400 I go, uh, I call him back and go, sure, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.440 I love to do comedians cars. He goes, oh, well, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.400 thank you for calling me back. The least I can do? Yes, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.160 Do you really have to say that the least the 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.000 least you can do? I go, let's not getting a fight, alright, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:48.520 I just got goo phone. The least you can do. Really, 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.880 it's the least you can do. What's funny. Thank you 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.679 for doing the least you can do it. But but 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.959 that's a perfect insight into you, which is the comics 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.560 that you emulated, like Steve who you can send up 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.880 certain things, you can mock certain things, but he's not mean. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.199 You're not mean. Did you try me materially when you 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.720 were younger you didn't like it? I try, well, yeah, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.679 I did. I try to keep my eye clean. My 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:14.480 grandfather said, don't work blue or try to him. He's 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.240 getting the tray split under leaf. They ate great, they 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:22.880 ate like kings. But but you thought about being more 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.760 cynical and more snarky and mean. I did have a couple, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.080 you know, I'd say the FD a couple of times 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.360 and it just didn't come out. But I mean making 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.440 fun of people. No, I never really did that. Nod 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:36.800 would have some of that, but that wasn't you. That 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.280 was more like, it's the news. You have to talk 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.199 about topics and that's just had yeah, which is what 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:42.640 we have to do now with the monologue and the 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.480 tonight show. It's like sometimes we get into them like 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:46.439 I just have to do I'm gonna get to the 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.679 tonight show. But prior to that, your nature is to 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.880 be I want everyone to be in on the job, 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.640 and you don't do anything in anybody's expense, which is 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.560 kind of a mirror I remember, you know, I don't remember. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.160 My comedy wasn't like that. I think I also I 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.080 used to tape all these comedians from the eighties where 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.240 you did the Kevin you're opening for Kevin James. You're 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.920 doing the comedy clubs in your how old? Yeah? I 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.440 probably yeah, probably yeah. I went to college where Colleges 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.760 Saint Rose in Albany, how long for three years to 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:21.560 study what communications? You idiot? No, I can. I did 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.599 computer science first. Karthri even more of an idiot. I 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.440 knew three years up in snowy Albany and with all 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.920 those legislative trash up there studying communications and you could 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.120 have been doing stand up. I didn't stand up on 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.880 the weekend, That's what I'm saying. So you kept doing that, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.000 and I did. I did a show at my Saint 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.960 Joseph's auditorium in the college, and I go, I think 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.800 we got paid fifty bucks and we split me my 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.640 friend Frank, did you lay that on the table, the 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.880 fifty bucks and take a picture for it? That was 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.120 the check. It was not as much fun. Cash is 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.360 much more fun. But my point is that you're you're 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.120 going down to New York. While you're at the college, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:54.880 You're going down to the city still doing stand up. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.200 I started, no not really. I really just stuck around 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.200 the Albany area and just doing because I was city 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.199 was after, the city was after before. You go to 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:11.080 l a um barely barely months. I just started because 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.079 I couldn't get booked at Caroline's or you know, a 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:18.400 comic strip. I went to l a because I knew 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.439 that Randy Siegel was Her name was no as a 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.640 manager and Randy Siegel, and she said she called me 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.400 she worked for Ray Rio, and ray Rio worked at 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.920 Brostein Gray, and I, being a fan of sarent Live, 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:34.480 knew that every every cast member was one with Bernie Brolstein, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.280 and Lauren was Bernie Brostein. So I go wow, and 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.120 she was like, yeah, I just did something with Sandler, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.079 and at the time Sandler was my idol. Like, oh 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.360 my gosh. So I said that. She goes, I think 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.040 you should come out for pilot season. What do you 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.360 want to do? And I go, I want to be 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.040 on Saturday Ight Live. She's like, okay, but realistically I 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.959 just said pilot season. She was as I didn't know 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.360 what that means. So I go great. So she was 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.679 but it's now, so you gotta come now. This is 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.319 the perfect time. It was just no one knows you. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.120 You will be the fresh new guy out here. And okay, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.880 call my parents. I go, I gotta call from a manager. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.480 They got my tape and my resume, and I think 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.400 I should do it and move out there. And my 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.760 parents like, okay, we's gonna feed grandma. Yeah exactly, we 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.599 don't try. We have to drive the car to the 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.280 back of the driveway. They're all the way in the 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.640 back of the yard. At this point, they were trying 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.240 to fasting. Was cool. You don't need to eat now, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.080 you got the meditation, grandma, grandpa, real quick, real quick. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:36.880 They're they're eating cloth that passes through them. Yeah, they're 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.160 pulling that rope through there where. It's a good trick 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.599 either way. So they and they go, great, we believe it. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:44.880 You didn't go for it. I go great. So I 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.080 have my guitar and I have whatever money you can 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:49.800 get out of my hand. On your show, I want 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.520 to come on where we swallow the rope and we 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.599 pull it out. Would that be great? Wait? Do we 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.520 read like jokes? Like hanging out to jokes and when 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.960 it comes out, but you gotta keep pulling. You get 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.199 to the bunt side. The news, take your table, But 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.240 can we pull things out of ours? We have to 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.000 do there? Yeah, we have to do it. So pilots done, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:14.080 one's done that, we're bathrooms pilot season. Then went out 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.319 there and I just I started taking acting lessons with 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:22.040 Gordon Hunt, Helen Hunt's dad, and I did you needed that? Yeah? 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.760 I figured? Was it just what everybody was doing them? Nobody? Manager? 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.120 I was telling me that, look, as a comedian, you 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:28.920 don't know how to act with other people on stage? 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.760 Is that true? It is true? Did it help you? 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.400 Definitely helped me? Well, the Groundlings help me more? Uh? 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.400 Then yeah, Groundings, but they're both expensive. It's not cheap. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.120 Ground Lings is a very very admired program. How long 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.959 were you win that? I was in there for a 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.079 year and a half and it was Jim Wise, my 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.160 first teacher, and he went around the rooms like no 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.280 wy in this class, and he went around to everybody. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.679 He reminds me of the story and uh, he's a 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.040 great writer. Now he's worked for Lano and now he's 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.360 doing something else. But he goes, why are you going 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.280 to go? I want to be on Saturday Live. And 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.679 he goes, okay, all right, Well the good luck and 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.640 it's like like the guts that no one else would 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.920 just say that. Of course, that's why everyone's there. That's 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:09.520 all I really wanted to do. So I wanted to 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.280 I did impressions so I would be the new Dana Carvey. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.839 I knew. I figured he's gonna leave, and so I 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.040 wouldn't be the next Dana car had people told you, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.520 I mean, what thing do you think we have the 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.320 greatest influence in terms of helping you? Who do you 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.120 credit most prized? Stand up was the best because you 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.840 could really build confidence. It's all about getting knocked down 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.680 when you go out. I mean, people are gonna just 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.720 reject you. And it's just insane how many times. I mean, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.280 if you don't have confidence, then you start losing your confidence. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.240 But maybe I'm not good. Maybe I'll start changing my 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:46.400 act for your confidence. Now, No, never there like in 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.400 my career with what I do, or's it there and 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.240 go it's over. You know that I'm never gonna get 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.960 another job again. It's over. But that's crazy. It would 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.840 be hard for you to feel that way. We have 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.120 six year contracts and six years we'll talk never really difficult, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.560 really difficult for you to feel. But if I'm playing 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.920 with you and I feel like this is just uneven, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.720 like you're just crushing me. Then I'd be like, then 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.680 my conference will go down. But I feel comfortable with you, 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:09.920 and I feel like I can play with you. But 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.760 like if it's you know you were when you have 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.360 someone like Martin Short and playing with him, and it's like, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.720 you gotta be on your game. When it's Alca Bowin 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.680 or Martin Short, you have to be on your game. 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.160 So it's like, that's the only thing where I feel 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.360 like I'm having a bad day someone when you're working 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.080 with them like that, when you say on your game, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.840 you really gotta be on your toes. They're so they 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:32.720 impress you, well you Martin Short is unbelievably. It's like 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.080 log rolling with him and you're going off the log Oh, totally, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.880 no way. I can't hold my own. He's just Unbelievable's 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.640 think he's already on two different levels and then he'll 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.560 save some reference that it's so funny that I can't 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.360 my brain can't work. It stops because I go to 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.320 that reference and I go, did you just bring up 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.600 you know who? We thought? You're actually looking in your 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.520 mind at what he just said, and he just said 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.560 that word. Yeah, Higgins will do that to me now. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.920 And then Steve Higgins is our my announcer, but sidekick 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.040 or whatever, but he's just an amazing comedian's a genius, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.800 and he'll just say something and I'll just screw my 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.360 head up for days. Because the other day he said, 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:12.040 maybe this's beacon. If anyone remembers this, it was a 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.200 typing tutor. It was. It was a computer program to 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.480 teach you how to type. Maybe this beacon teaches you 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.440 how to type. It's the hottest thing, and like the 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.400 eighties early nineties, it's an awful reference. The crowd went 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.600 its complete silence. But it stopped me in my tracks. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.640 A year and a half of groundlings, and that stops 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.800 because you're done with it, or something else happens next. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:37.200 Here's a good story. I get center at Live, I 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.320 get an audition Marcy Klein and I Alicon semi to 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.960 New York to audition for Lauren. They're looking for a 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.320 new cast member. I go on stage at the comic 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:49.080 strip from Los Angeles. Come in, I have three minutes. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.840 I go on the stage. I could show live in 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.080 front of an audience. It's an audition with just nobody 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.160 else in the room, an audience. There, I see Marcy 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.840 and Lauren. Lauren's wearing a hat, a baseball hat pulled 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.640 down on and Marcy has the blonde hair, and I 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.360 know who everyone is, and I was like, wow, that's 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.320 Marcy Klein, that's Laura Michael as well. So I go 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.280 on stage and just I could just couldn't get people. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.600 Three minutes was not enough to grab people. It's tough 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.680 to kill people. Didn't understand the troll a bit. They're like, huh, 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.480 I don't know what he's doing with the celebrities with 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.760 the troll doll. I don't know, And I just bombed. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.320 I bombed, yeah, and I knew it. I was like, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.000 that was just just sweaty. That was sweaty. There was 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.720 a diner next door to the comic strip and it's 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.320 like Boulevard and Broken Dreams. It's like obviously the next 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.520 to Marl H. Monroe, impersonator and drinking common. So I 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:38.760 died painting and those dudes from the beam or eating 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:40.960 lunch they came into as well. They oh, that was 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.720 a terrible set uh. And so I went back to 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.119 l A and I got an independent movie called The 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.720 Entrepreneurs or something, and it was I was like, Wow, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.440 this is cool. And I was doing this thing and 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.120 I Warner Brothers want to sign me for a TV 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.480 show and I said, Okay, I'll do it, but one 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:04.359 out if I get Saren Live wat Hamburger Man it 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.239 was coming. It was like that. It was a thing 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.399 about waitresses and I was the delivery boy and it 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.480 was it was man, I don't remember any of it now. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.200 Any Sunshine cater So sold delivery or something like that. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.240 It was like it was a catering service and here 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:28.879 you go, here, here you go. That was like the 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.960 fifth leade was But I said, like, if I get 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.159 Saren Live, I can't do this show. And well, they go, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.000 what I might put that in the contract, but it 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.920 was so crazy to say that. They let me do it. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.879 I don't think anyone's ever done in the history of anybody. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.880 They put in the thing. If Jimmy Fallon gets satur Alive, 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:51.520 he's not doing Here you go anyways, I go back 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.000 to audition. How much longer after you bomb and how 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:57.800 much they give you another shots? Year and a half 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.240 so it is a long time. Yeah, we're maybe a 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.160 year maybe they end up hiring Tracy Morgan. That's their 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.880 next round, and you go in and what happens. They said, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.359 don't do the troll bit, which now that's my only act. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.440 Don't t would be let me come back. I don't 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.520 do the troll bit. I did instead do a celebrity walkathon, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.840 which basically is the troll bit exactly the new like 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.680 your backstage years and looking at me, I didn't understand, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.879 and you're looking at the troll You're coming with me. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.119 I went to Ellen Stardust Diner, which is here and 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.560 right by the Dirty Rock. Next time I do your show, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.159 I want the control on the desk with us talk 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.040