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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolli and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and well, Matt, we're a few more days

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Speaker 2: closer to the NFL Draft. We sit here on Monday,

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Speaker 2: a Happy CLIPS Day, Happy a CLIPS Day, and we're

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Speaker 2: having parties and doing stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm probably recording a podcast ording the eclipse

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Speaker 3: about deciding I'm gonna do. You got any big eclipse plans?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Nothing. I didn't buy the glasses or do any of

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Speaker 3: that stuff. But I guess it's a cool event. It

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Speaker 3: feels like spring out there though. Thanks. Yeah, we're getting.

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Speaker 2: Close to do We get into the studio and it's chilly, it.

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Speaker 3: Seems to be the case. And hot days of the

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Speaker 3: studio is freezing. So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not hot enough to be freezing in here.

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Speaker 3: It's cold.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, Matt, again, much closer to the draft here

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Speaker 2: as we as we roll along here, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I just was thinking about this over the weekend, that

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Speaker 2: all of the Steeler moves to this point that they

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Speaker 2: have made have set them up to our draft visitors today.

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Speaker 2: Logan Lee, the defensive tackle out of Iowa. Yeah, brought

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Speaker 2: him up multiple times in our mock d one of

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Speaker 2: the few body types. And then cornerback Max Melton out

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Speaker 2: of Rutgers.

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Speaker 3: Another guy we talked about a lot.

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Speaker 2: All their visits have been defensive linemen cornerbacks. Uh, defense,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Tackles are offensive lineman, I should and rod receivers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it doesn't unless it's the biggest smoke screen. Ever,

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear what their intentions are in

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Speaker 3: those first four picks, give or take. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: it seems like it's more tackles than centers. But there

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Speaker 3: have been some offensive lineman cross the board. M I

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Speaker 3: guess that's no shock. I mean, there's why hide it.

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Speaker 3: I mean you pretty much know teams do due diligence.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that Steelers could tell you, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Raiders' needs off the top of their head and

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Speaker 3: what directions they might be going. You know, maybe you

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Speaker 3: could not bring your favorite tackle or center in just

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Speaker 3: to try to hide out those intentions. But I think

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Speaker 3: people have a really good feel more than ever of

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Speaker 3: what teams around the league want to do. You know

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Speaker 3: that there's not a lot of shocks anymore. This process

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Speaker 2: Now, and if you think about it, Matt, the last

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Speaker 2: few years, the Steelers haven't really hidden. Like everybody in

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Speaker 2: the in the world knew they were drafting.

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Speaker 3: Nause was an easy one, right, I mean everybody everybody knew.

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Speaker 2: Last year was a little bit different because they traded up.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of people, well, they're

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Speaker 2: drafting Joey Porter junior. Well they did, they did?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It just happened to come. And you know, with that

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Speaker 3: Will say when they traded up. When when it you know,

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Speaker 3: came across the three and there's a trade, I didn't

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Speaker 3: know if it was for Roder Jones or Gonzalez who

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Speaker 3: end up going to the Patriots. I thought both made

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Speaker 3: tons of cents. As soon as it happened, I was like, wow,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure who that's four though, you know, so

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Speaker 3: that was I get, I guess, a bit of a shock.

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Speaker 3: But we also knew before that pick was made it

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Speaker 3: was going to be a tackle or corner. And the

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Speaker 3: first two picks were tackles in corner. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: so it really wasn't that big of a shock, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean if I had to lay chips

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Speaker 2: down right now, yeah, what the Steelers are going to draft?

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Speaker 2: What positions? I'm must telling you what players, right, But

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Speaker 2: it's it's those four positions are going to be addressed,

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Speaker 2: right probably in the when those first four picks, if

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Speaker 2: not the first five picks, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe there's two receivers. I

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Speaker 3: opposed to, you know, just as opposed to, say, in broadly,

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Speaker 3: two offensive linemen. I don't think they're going to take

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Speaker 3: I mean that they see the same needs we been seeing.

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Speaker 3: the last month or two. And the more homework got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was guy that, you know, a

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Speaker 3: Sure, you know, so you can find those, right, He's

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Speaker 3: not going to second round or anything.

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Speaker 2: You're looking at a fourth maybe a fourth round guy.

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Speaker 2: But they've they've looked at guys throughout the If you

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Speaker 2: guys at most of the positions who are either going

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Speaker 2: Except for the tackles, and that's largely been the Day

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Speaker 3: The Day one guys, yeah, exactly. I mean there's one

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of dudes they've brought in or scheduled

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Speaker 3: two that are like six seventh round picks that I

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Speaker 3: think are interesting, you know, that I've you know, went

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Speaker 3: the most part, the tackles look like Round one. The

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Speaker 3: coroners absolutely looked like Day two. The receivers look like

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Speaker 3: a combination of both, I would say, and the centers

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think that, you know, round one

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Speaker 3: if you my time, I couldn't remember who else was

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Speaker 3: can do all these things in the first two days.

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Speaker 3: If you trade down a handful of spots in round one,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe get five picks on the first two

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's kind of what you I mean, you

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Speaker 2: you want to hit your hit your spots. It's just

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Speaker 3: And it just so happens. And this isn't a coincidence

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Speaker 3: That happens to me that some of the best positions

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Speaker 3: up to the D line class. I've really warmed up

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Speaker 3: to the center class. It's an amazing tackle draft. It's

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Speaker 3: a great wide receiver draft. So you're fishing in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, these visits aren't done yet. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: depending on some here's so some of these things are

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Speaker 2: some some websites put out there. Well, you know they're

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Speaker 3: Going to meet older.

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Speaker 2: You don't know if there's going to take place or not.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, these kids are so busy, and I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to think of a good example. Maybe someone like

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Speaker 3: Jared Verse or Chop Robinson. They might they're not for

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Speaker 3: the Steelers, but they could go anywhere from pick nine

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Speaker 3: how many teams are begging them to come to their

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Speaker 3: I mean it's hard to schedule. You're not gonna go

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Speaker 3: visit thirty two teams if you're a prospect, but twenty

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Speaker 3: might be asking you, right, I mean, can you say

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Speaker 3: yes to all of them?

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Speaker 2: Especially if you've had something medical.

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, and hey, you still want to be working out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't just be on the banquet circuit

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Speaker 3: to your rookie year. So just because someone is rumored

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Speaker 3: to be on his way here, I'm sure they've had

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Speaker 3: count on it being set in Stoneye or it's actually happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they've actually been in the building.

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Speaker 2: But some of the defensive lineman you mentioned, I mean they've.

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Speaker 3: They're pretty thorough about it. I mean, other than.

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Speaker 2: Darius Robinson, Braden Fiske, Massan Smith, Christian Boyd, Logan Lee,

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Speaker 2: I mean these are guys that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not the geno Atkins types.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, outside of Boyd, who I think he had his

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Speaker 2: pro day today. Yeah, I think he measured in it

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Speaker 2: like six. I want to say it was six two

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Speaker 3: These guys give him mixed up. Who's the Who's the

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Speaker 3: Baylor dude? I thought that was Boyd?

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Speaker 2: No, that's Gay Bud Gay bub Hall is Hall.

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Speaker 3: Okay, That's why I was getting confused there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I think, to me, boys more of

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Speaker 3: And again yeah for Hoko, you have Benton, you have Adams,

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Speaker 3: You're good at those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that doesn't mean what doesn't mean you

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Speaker 2: can't move You can't move Benton to defensive end.

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Speaker 3: But you're also not going to play the pure noses

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Speaker 3: sixty percent of the plays anyway. Yeah, I mean they

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Speaker 3: have four defensive linemen on the.

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Speaker 2: Field, and really outside of rob and those other guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think he'll get Robinson in the second

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Speaker 3: round where the Steelers pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, that's your problem is is that your your

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Speaker 2: twenty is too high to take Robinson?

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Speaker 3: For me?

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Speaker 2: It is yeah for me as well. Yeah uh and

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Speaker 2: fifty one. He's not gonna last that long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I have mixed feelings about him because this past

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Speaker 3: year he was much more of an edge stand up

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Speaker 3: he can do it. But he might be neither, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a chance he's neither. He used to

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Speaker 3: be tweeeners. There was a bad word. Now now that

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Speaker 3: Tweeners has become versatile, and you know, you can line

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Speaker 3: him up all over and I think that's what he is.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's Cam Hayward, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not say it's TJ. Watt either, but he's a

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Speaker 3: little in between.

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Speaker 2: You look at the cornerback guys that they have brought

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Speaker 2: in thus far. That's Nate Wiggins, who would be a

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Speaker 2: first round guy, Yeah, Andrew Phillips, MJ. Devonshire, Max Melton.

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Speaker 2: Melton's probably doesn't exactly count either though, because he's a local.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it doesn't mean they're not interested in it's

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Speaker 3: just that he doesn't count against him because he can.

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Speaker 2: But I think you'd look at Phillips and maybe even

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Speaker 2: Melton and Devonhi for sure those guys are slots.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can find a lot of how these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, that's why some of those dinners

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Speaker 2: Matt Bill Barmwell has put out a list for all

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Speaker 2: Uh. He says that the Bears one should stay put

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Speaker 2: I heard that McCarthy's pro day was excellent. Actually really

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Speaker 3: the season too, Like his test numbers and things like

435
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: that are much better than his recent tape because he

436
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: wasn't playing healthy, you know what I mean, playing hurt.

437
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: And I mean that coaches love that stuff too.

438
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 2: At three as the Patriots and he says that they

439
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: should stay put, I disagree, and I know you do too.

440
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's just too rough an environment. I mean,

441
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 3: I would never frown on a team. And I'd always

442
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 3: understand if you can add a franchise quarterback Adam no

443
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 3: matter what, even if it's me and you block him

444
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: for him. But man, I think that's a rough environment

445
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: and it would worry me more for May because May

446
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 3: just dealt with that. At North Carolina and had a

447
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: rough season because of it.

448
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: I think you like him way more than I do.

449
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 3: I think so too. He's my number two easily.

450
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: I have him at three, and it was close between

451
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: him and McCarthy. Yeah, there's talent there, but I think

452
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: he's the kind of player that that he he either hits.

453
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: I think he may may have the highest upside of

454
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks in his draft, but I think he might

455
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: have the lowest floor too.

456
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 3: I definitely could see Sam. I think the top guys, yeah, no,

457
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: I hear you get you fired? Yes, now, any of

458
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: those dudes just with New England at least Jakobe Brissett's there,

459
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: and he's more than just a veteran stop gap in

460
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 3: my opinion. I mean, he's a strong pro that can

461
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: handle the arrows. But you know, once through zero to four,

462
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: whoever this poor dude to three is is going to

463
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: get thrown in there with nobody to throw to, you

464
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'd rather think Marvin Harrison maybe

465
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Speaker 3: if I were then.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see I mean I can see it.

467
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: You know.

468
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know when you look at a lineman, for example,

469
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen when he was at Wyoming, Yeah, his

470
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 2: the year before at Wyoming, he had a bunch of guys.

471
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Speaker 2: There were like five guys off of his offense that

472
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Speaker 2: were drafted. Yeah, he had he guys around him.

473
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: Sam Howell's another example.

474
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: His senior year, he didn't right and he was still

475
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: very good. Yes, yes, yes, yes, whereas May when he

476
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: had the guys around him, it was great, good, everything's fantastic.

477
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: Last year and he didn't have as many guys around him,

478
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: he was bad.

479
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 3: Good step backwards, yeah, that question. I mean Cayleb Williams

480
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: did a little bit y Jordan Addison and you know

481
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: he wasn't as good as past year. I mean one

482
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: the Heisman the year before he was best right in

483
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 3: the country. We know where to go but down? But no,

484
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 3: I hear you.

485
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: Uh at four he had he says that the Cardinals

486
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: should trade down.

487
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: I always thought that, but it sounds like most of

488
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 3: the trade down candidates. And I bring up the Vikings

489
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: more than anybody gets you out of a Doonsday, Neighbors

490
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: or Harrison.

491
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Speaker 2: Well, unless I don't, unless the Giants want to come on.

492
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 3: Then I'm in. Yeah. If I can still get one

493
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 3: of those three receivers for Kyler, I don't want to

494
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: go far from them. If I'm the Patriots, I'll go

495
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 3: far and just draft lineman left and right and receivers

496
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: on day two. And you know, but if I'm the Cardinals,

497
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: it's time to start getting Pro bowlers. You know what

498
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean.

499
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: Well, I think in this draft, though, you could get

500
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: pro bowlers by moving down a little bit.

501
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: I do too, I just would as bad as their

502
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: wide outs are, I already have the quarterback. I want

503
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: one of those three wideouts from them.

504
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: At five that he says the Chargers should trade down.

505
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: That they have junk, Yeah, it's funny, but.

506
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: You could make the argument that they should stay there

507
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: and take one of the wide receivers.

508
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, their receivers are as bad as the Cardinals.

509
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: I mean it might be the worst group of receivers

510
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: in the label.

511
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: And Herbert needs they have the quarterback in place too.

512
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of extra picks total coincidences.

513
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 3: I was a guest un Lockdown Chargers yesterday and so

514
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: I studied their depth chart as we went through it.

515
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: It's worse than I thought. I mean, the tackles are horrible. Yeah,

516
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: the linebackers are bad.

517
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 2: They couldn't stop the run last year exactly.

518
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: Their host thought that the second corner was amongst their

519
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: highest needs, and I hadn't even given that a ton

520
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: of thought. But their defensive tackles are right tackle, right guard,

521
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 3: and center aren't great. I mean, they're definitely a center

522
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: team because they think Lindsay's going to retire with his

523
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: hard situation. As you mentioned, their wideouts are as bad

524
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: as any of the league. Yeah, I mean, I don't know,

525
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: new coach. I think I would trade down and try

526
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: to get three, four or five starters out of this,

527
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 3: hopefully as opposed to one big dog. But yeah, agency

528
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 3: right right, you couldn't fill little gaps in free agency

529
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: at six.

530
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: The Giants what they should do trade down, stay put,

531
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: or trade up. Thanks Bill, No really narrowed that down

532
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: for us.

533
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: So to me, they have to emerge with one of

534
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: the receivers or one of the quarterbacks, and it's six,

535
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: you'll get one of them. Yeah, but if you're set

536
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: on getting a quarterback, that's a real game of chicken.

537
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: If you're them, you know, if if someone trades right

538
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 3: in front of it, five, you're doomed. I mean, if

539
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 3: you feel like I have to do that.

540
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: But then you're gonna get one of the wide receivers.

541
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: Then you go on the wide receivers. But if they

542
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: can't stand Daniel Jones, if he has to go, and

543
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: you know, he's gonna be a contract, you know, guy,

544
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: I could see why they would want to do that.

545
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: I don't think they have a second round pick though,

546
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: because of the Burns trade.

547
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: Because of the trade.

548
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that would be great to get Nicks penix.

549
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: So a trade up for them would include.

550
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: Next year's first, you know for sure.

551
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: And even to go two spots yeah, be something yeah,

552
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: yeah right, I mean it could really cripple you. Yeah.

553
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: I think they're in a bit of a bind. I

554
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: probably just stick and pick a receiver. I would too,

555
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, and just live with it. Yeah.

556
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: Seven for the Titans. And I disagree with this one.

557
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: He said they should trade up. Why would the Titans

558
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: trade up.

559
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: I think they're in the ideal spot.

560
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting you want an offensive lineman, that's what

561
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: they want.

562
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get one. I mean everyone on the

563
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: planet's mocked get them first. Yeah, first one off the board.

564
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 3: I've actually can than more for a trade down, you know,

565
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: like if you could get Fluaga at twelve, and a

566
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: defensive back in the mix too. I mean, there's their

567
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: defense needs a lot of work. I mean, I think

568
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 3: the offense now after signing Ridley, in the moves they've made,

569
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: it's all a line on offense where the defense needs

570
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: a lot that's not named Simmons. You know, so, hey,

571
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: you have a great o line coach, you don't have

572
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: to give them the best offensive lineman in the draft.

573
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: Coach them up at a mims. You know, see someone

574
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: that's a project.

575
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: The Falcons should trade down, I think so, too said,

576
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 2: but not too far down.

577
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the first team taking the

578
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: defensive player. And I think where they're at they would

579
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: be And I still and I think there's a really

580
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: good chance a dons or somebody highly attractive would be

581
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: sitting there for them to somebody to make them offers.

582
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: At nine. What the Bears should do with the ninth pick.

583
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: The Bears, he says, should trade down.

584
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 3: I would be very open to trading down unless.

585
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: Their mission pick, like they could they think.

586
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: The second thirds, yeah, but they do the first overall,

587
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 3: so they have two really high picks. Of course, if

588
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: Donsay was there, I would jump on them, otherwise I'd

589
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: be listening to offers I know they needed. I don't

590
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: think they do either, but.

591
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: I think that I think they're the easy trade down.

592
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean think about them. If if you could

593
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: trade down five spots, you could even take a fatanu

594
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: put him at guard in making be Zach Martin, or

595
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: he could be the right tackle, you think, anything on

596
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: the defensive or.

597
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: Then they could trade down to like in that thirteen

598
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen range and go defensive end or edge.

599
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and someone on the defront would make front

600
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense with them. No. Duneesa to

601
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: me would just be too good to pass up if

602
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: I were them. But they don't need them.

603
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: They don't need them. And again you're the Bears. You

604
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: don't throw the ball that much. I don't care who

605
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: the quarterback is having our history, Yeah, because of where

606
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: you play. Yeah, the wind is always blowing forty miles

607
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: an hour. There field soft even in the summer. Yeah.

608
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: Uh at ten, what Jets should do trade up?

609
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: Oh for like a Doom's day there alt.

610
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what the trade out.

611
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was giving this some thought too, Like everyone's

612
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: walking bowers there and I think that's great. But I

613
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: wonder about Fatanu. I mean, because he could be your

614
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: guard this year, and then when your old guys moves on,

615
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: you move him to tackle.

616
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: I don't think they're worried about next year.

617
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they're worried about that year either.

618
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: You got a forty year old quarterback and a bunch

619
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: of old offens. Like everybody they've signed is basically on

620
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: their last legs. Yes, I think you do everything you

621
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: can to make Aaron Rodgers job as easy as possible.

622
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: I think that's powers. Yeah, I mean the options. And

623
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade up for Bowers, not trade up for

624
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: a tight end. No, you know?

625
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: And eleven the Vikings should trade up?

626
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I mean tall quarterback there.

627
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: I mean they could stick and pick a quarterback.

628
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: It's possible.

629
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Well, they had more news than just than just quarterback.

630
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: If you loved Pinnix or Nicks, you could probably get

631
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: him with their second first round or yeah, just take it.

632
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if they do or not, but they're

633
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 3: obviously the trade up.

634
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Favorite the Broncos what they should do? Trade down?

635
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: I think so too.

636
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: I think they need players.

637
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: I think they need everything. Yeah. I mean they need

638
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: cap space, they need players. I mean again, I think

639
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: I'd rather be the GM of anything.

640
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they gave up all those picks for Russell

641
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: Wilson and he's not even on your roster, and you're

642
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: paying it, and.

643
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: You're paying them, and even like Garrett Bowles is up

644
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: after the year. I mean, you need everything.

645
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: Garrett Bowles is old, he's thirty two.

646
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, he came in a legal too, right, I mean

647
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna invest in that guy. I mean, like you

648
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: need everything. Trade down at thirteen?

649
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: What the Raiders should do? Trade down?

650
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: I lean that way, But sticking and picking a right

651
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: tackle for them wouldn't be terrible either yea Latham or

652
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: for Waga.

653
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: They could use a lot.

654
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: They could.

655
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they could trade down and take a corner.

656
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: They could trade down.

657
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: Everything on defense. Yeah, pretty much.

658
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, get one of the defensive tackles because and the quarterback.

659
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Thirteen's too high for that. Well, they can get the

660
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: quarter they maybe they take up Pennix or Nixon the

661
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: second you know, round two.

662
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: Those two teams I could see being the Levis type

663
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: team at the making a move to get to the

664
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: first pick in the second round.

665
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Which you would like to have some additional picks and

666
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: drake that out.

667
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

668
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: At fourteen, what the Saints should do trade up.

669
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: They always do, and it always hurts them.

670
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: They've been a bad drafting team.

671
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: They're such a weird organization. They're too aggressive in my opinion. Yeah,

672
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: I mean they live for today. That's fine with Drew Brees.

673
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: That's not fine with Carr, you know, pushing all your

674
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: chips in. They trade up for Penning, I mean he

675
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: doesn't even play for him anymore. I mean like that's yeah,

676
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: like a lave's worked out, and some of them have,

677
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: but they've been so aggressive. I think I would take

678
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: a step back and either take the right tackle there

679
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: or give me a bunch of picks.

680
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: At fifteen, what the Colts should do is trade down.

681
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Always have a hard time giving them a perfect fit.

682
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: Like Mitchell's a nice spot there, Brian Thomas, you know,

683
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: I mean there's some guys that make sense, but there's

684
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: no one that's like, wow, if he's there, it's a

685
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: perfect fit. Yeah, I mean even Bowers, it's okay. They

686
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: don't use it tight end much.

687
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: At sixteen, the Seahawks should trade down.

688
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: He hasn't made one stitting Still, No, I mean Seattle.

689
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: To me, I think there's like four names that are

690
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: really good for them. Is the two defensive tackles, but

691
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: more likely is Fatanu or Powers Johnson or maybe even Barfield.

692
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: I you know, and maybe could go to a five

693
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: spots and have one of those fall in your lap.

694
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: Still, to me, a cornerback would make a lot of

695
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: sensor as well.

696
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they drafted Witherspoon in the first round.

697
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Okay, he got one, but you need more than one,

698
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: especially in that.

699
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: Like all kid though, I mean the year before, and

700
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: that's awful. But I want to think they have plenty

701
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: of needs. Don't get me wrong.

702
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: I want to have guys that can. You got to

703
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: catch the forty nine ers, that's who you're That's who

704
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: you're trying to catch. You got to catch the rams,

705
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: that's who you're trying to catch. You need more than

706
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: two cornerbacks to do.

707
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: That, agreed. I also think quarterbacks should be something. Should

708
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: it should be Maybe it's Spencer Rattler. I mean, maybe

709
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: it's not one of the top guys. I'm not saying

710
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: round one, but I just think so.

711
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: I think cornerbacks a sneaking need for them.

712
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 3: The other thing, I mean, just as a whole, is

713
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: the defensive scheme is changing so drastically. I mean it's

714
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: going from old school Peete Carroll to the Ravens. They

715
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: didn't fix it all in free agency, No, they did not.

716
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna have to get some more Ravens

717
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: like defensive play, and that's why corners one of those.

718
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: That's another reason why I mentioned cornerback is a sneaky

719
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: need for them because that's been the Ravens. We're gonna

720
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: be really good on the back end and cover because

721
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna blitz like crazy to get to the quarterback.

722
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: You know, like they got rid of both their safeties

723
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: because well, Ravens ask a lot of different things out

724
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: of their safeties. I don't think the old dudes could

725
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: do it, you know.

726
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, secondary is definitely something there that I think.

727
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: I think they have a lot of needs. Yeah, I mean,

728
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: not running back, not receiver. After that, I think there's

729
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: a lot of directions they could.

730
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Go At seventeen. He thinks the Jaguars should trade up.

731
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: I don't know him on board with that. I mean,

732
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: if it's trading up to get a doonsa at ten.

733
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: That would be could be right, here's there after everything

734
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: has happened this offseason. They've got Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk,

735
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: Zay Jones, and Evan Ingram. That's it. That's who they're

736
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: throwing to.

737
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: I know, and they're expensive. Yeah, I mean I think

738
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: that's another poorly run organization. You'd love a first round

739
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: rookie in that mix. Yees, Jay Jones could get cut.

740
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean you need to get cheaper to wide receiver

741
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: position because Trevor Lawrence's contract, he's going to get expensive

742
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: here pretty.

743
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: Quick, if you exactly, and if you stick and pick,

744
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: would you consider Thomas that early for them? Yeah? I

745
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: would too, Yeah, because he doesn't have to be a

746
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: star right now. But by year two, you've been my

747
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: best receiver. Yeah yeah, yeah.

748
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: Because ye're two, you're paying Lord, that's.

749
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: You probably have moved on from Zaga. Yeah, you know,

750
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: you know they're gonna cut Gabe Davis in two years,

751
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: same with everyone else they signed this offseason.

752
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Just on what they do principal. Yeah, at eighteen the

753
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: Bengals what they should do trade down?

754
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: I tend to agree. What do you think of this

755
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: from the Bengals? I I if we were doing Bengals

756
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: radio right now, I think my targets would be those

757
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 3: two defensive tackles Newton and Murphy or Mitchell and Thomas,

758
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: and they might all be there. Yeah, And so if

759
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: I moved down four, five, six spots, you'll.

760
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Probably give Mitchell. I don't think Mitchell will be.

761
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: There, Donnie Mitchell. Sorry, yeah, yeah, I was saying the

762
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: two receivers, the two big receivers that could replace Haggins,

763
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: and two defensive tackles. I think they all could be there.

764
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: Three probably will be too early for me. For me too.

765
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: That's why trade and down makes sense, except they don't

766
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: ever trade. They never ever, which is bombers.

767
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: They should trade T Higgins and see what you know,

768
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 2: if they can get a like.

769
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: If I were the Patriots, I'll give you a second

770
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: round pick for T.

771
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: Higgins which is an early second round or maybe.

772
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: Next to your second or whatever, which is also an

773
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: early second round at nineteen.

774
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: What the Rams should do? Trade down?

775
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: Okay, again, those two defensive tackles are probably really interesting

776
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: to them, have to be. Some of the edge guys

777
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: would be interesting, but it doesn't have to be a

778
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: lot to or verse. I think it's gonna be a

779
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 3: defense in a corner. Yeah, I think that's gonna be

780
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: a lot of defense from that team at twenty.

781
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: What the Steelers should do is trade down.

782
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: It is so I tend to agree.

783
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. But he says that there

784
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: are five starters on the defensive side of the ball

785
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: who will be on the wrong side of thirty by

786
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: their end of the next season. I don't know how

787
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: he's getting five starters at all, right, Hayward, Right, Hogan, Jobi.

788
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: Okay, it's tj over thirty at that point. I don't think.

789
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: I don't think he is.

790
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: It's not Queen, it's not Holcombe, it's not Porter or Benton,

791
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: it's not high Smith. We're getting to eleven here, pretty cool.

792
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't know where. I don't know where he's getting five.

793
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: It's not Jackson, who they has traded for. He's not

794
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 3: close to thirty yet.

795
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: He might be.

796
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: It's twenty eight, Yeah, he's twenty eight. I don't mink

797
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 3: it's not thirty at it. No, and Elliott isn't. No.

798
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how he's getting thirty, right, I

799
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: don't know how he's getting five guys at a thirty.

800
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: Patrick Peterson's not a starter anymore, all right. You know

801
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: he's not even on the team, right right, Yeah. I

802
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: mean they had the oldest defense in the league on

803
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: snapweighted age, but part of that's because Peterson was played

804
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: the most snaps of any of them. And he's not back,

805
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: you know.

806
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: I mean maybe he's still considering, uh, one of the linebackers.

807
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's not Killer Brew. I

808
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: mean I'm trying to think who's on defense. It's over

809
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: thirty that could even be considered a start.

810
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Landon Roberts will be thirty. But I don't know that

811
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 2: he's necessarily going.

812
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: To be a I'm a starter, okay, but still, I

813
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: mean you're not. I'm not going to fight him that

814
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: getting younger on defense it's not a bad idea, yeah, right,

815
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: be a priority. I mean there's no question about it.

816
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: Younger also helps gets you cheaper.

817
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean, they correlate with one another. I

818
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: just think that there's going to be more than we

819
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: talk about this all the time. I mean, if I

820
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: think there'll be a lot of options at twenty that

821
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: trading down wouldn't be terrible.

822
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: At twenty one. What Miami should do. Trade down? He's

823
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: got everybody trading down.

824
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so who's moving up.

825
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna have to want to move up to get

826
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: to these spots. Well. At twenty two he has the

827
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: Eagles should want to move up.

828
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Maybe for a corner maybe, yeah, it's one of the

829
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: top corners.

830
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: At twenty three, what Minnesota should do trade up?

831
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're they might.

832
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Have to trade both of those picks to go up

833
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: where they get to the quarterback. At twenty four, he

834
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: has the Cowboys should stay put.

835
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: How about that?

836
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I think that maybe.

837
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. There's probably a no lineman there,

838
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: Barton or power Johnson.

839
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: It's like the second team outside of the top five

840
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: that he has staying putt.

841
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm said, I have more state puts Giton Mims.

842
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: Twenty five, green Bay should stay put or make a

843
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: slight trade up.

844
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: For who maybe one of the corners, maybe the Jeene Barton,

845
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: probably one of them will be there though.

846
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you would think.

847
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

848
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: At twenty six, Tampa Bay should trade up.

849
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: H I don't know about that. I mean for one

850
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 3: of the d linemen, for one.

851
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Of the corners, probably a corner.

852
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you consider like an ad Mitchell for them?

853
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: I don't think they need them.

854
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Evan's and Godwin aren't young, but.

855
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: They're young with they're expensive, and they just drafted the

856
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: kid from Nebraska last year, Palmer.

857
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: I mean, their needs aren't massive, but there's a lot

858
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: of directions they could go.

859
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

860
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: I definitely don't think they're one player away to trade up.

861
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: No, you know, right at twenty seven, the Cardinals should

862
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: stay put unless they trade down at number four.

863
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, trade down, trade up, move, Yeah, that adds up.

864
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the bill should trade down plan.

865
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: I thinks they're trading up. They're trading up for one

866
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: of those two, probably big receiver. It would be one

867
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: of the I mean it's not like they don't have

868
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: other needs and receiver, but I would think they're gonna

869
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: be hit working the phones heavy for Mitchell or Thomas.

870
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty nine, Detroit should stay put.

871
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: There's plenty to pick from. There'll be a corner there

872
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: they like that can play or d Lineman.

873
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: At thirty, Baltimore should trade up.

874
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't want to give up a

875
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: lot of picks from them, No, I wouldn't either. They

876
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: have a lot of holds right now.

877
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: Right at thirty one, San Francisco should trade up.

878
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of that for one of the tackles, possibly, yeah,

879
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: the high pedigree guy.

880
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: And at thirty two, the Kansas City Chiefs should trade up.

881
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: M hmm. One of the tackles would make sense. I

882
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: know people are still gonna link receiver to them, and

883
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 3: that makes some sense as well. I mean, Marcus Brown's

884
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 3: on a one year deal. I am kind of excited

885
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: about the idea of trading up for Bowers, but that

886
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: would be a major Yeah, I don't see here.

887
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: First yeah, there, they have to give up multiple, multiple picks,

888
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: like four or five picks to.

889
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: Get exactly exactly they tried for a quarterback. They got

890
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: an expert for sneed, but I mean, you're gonna go

891
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: two first for a tight end? Probably not? Probably not.

892
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: So that's Bill Barnwell's list to get everybody on the

893
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: move in this year's draft. A lot of trade downs,

894
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: a lot of trade downs, and they can't all possibly

895
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 2: trade That's that's why when when we do our mock drafts,

896
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: it gets a little unrealistic, sure, because you're just constantly

897
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: trading or you're constantly getting offers, and that's not the

898
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: real that's not the real world.

899
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: It's not the real world. I mean maybe more. I've

900
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: never been in sitting there answering the phones, but I

901
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 3: would think in round one you're gonna get more calls

902
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 3: than you are in the fifth round two, of course,

903
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: and a lot of it's just you know, gms are

904
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 3: talking now, like, yeah, it would be interested. There's one

905
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: guy we're looking at the twenty. But if he's not there,

906
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: we're open for business, you know, and then teams would

907
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: know that, you know, they don't might not tell him

908
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: who that guy is, but you know.

909
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Let's get through another break. He is Matt Williams and

910
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,360
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911
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Speaker 2: And Matt. A guy who in college got to wear

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Speaker 2: a Steelers type uniform was Cooper Dejen.

923
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Speaker 3: Ah. Yeah, today's day for him.

924
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: Today was his day. He had his his workout we've

925
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: been waiting to see. Measured in at six foot in

926
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:15,959
Speaker 2: five eighths.

927
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Okay, it's about we thought.

928
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two hundred and two pounds.

929
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: I'd say is the over two hundred. He has a

930
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: thirty looking building.

931
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine and three quarter inch hands, so big a

932
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: size hands there, thirty one and an eighth inch arms,

933
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: seventy eight inch wingspan.

934
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: Though, Okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. I

935
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: think his chest is pretty broad.

936
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, his forty this according to Jim Naggy who

937
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: bl Yeah, it was between four four two and four

938
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: four five great, which is plenty fasten.

939
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: That line right coming off an injury too. Yeah right.

940
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: His ten yard split was between one five to two

941
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: and one five to five.

942
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think that's his specialty, but you know,

943
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: but that's that's why that'll play a problem with that.

944
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: Vertical jump thirty eight and a half inches, very good,

945
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: and his broad jump was ten.

946
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: To four over ten. For some of that bigness, I mean,

947
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: he has to stay.

948
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: Long jump champion, yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred meter champion.

949
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: It's Iowa.

950
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: But still I think he checked all the boxes but

951
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: didn't blow your door.

952
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't do any shuttles or anything like that. Okay,

953
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: that's probably still the chance the best stuff either, you know.

954
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: I mean he's probably smart not to. You don't have to.

955
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 3: So all the pro days are done. I mean there's

956
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: a couple of these type of things, like Johnny Newton

957
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: is not it's Johnny now right, I believe. So, Yeah,

958
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: Jazz is on here. Sorry, also has not worked out.

959
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: I don't think Latham's going to. I don't think Harrison

960
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: is going to. But there might be here and there

961
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: one of these single type workouts. But most of that

962
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: stuff's in the books. But I think I think the

963
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: Jeens still in the mix for number one corner. I mean,

964
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: depending what you're doing.

965
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: Mike Pursuit of is talking. We're talking about that. Today

966
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: we filmed another one of our mock draft for Steelers

967
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: dot Com and he said he's gonna he's gonna put

968
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: Degene on his safety list, which he can play safety.

969
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: Can do that, He's done it, he did it at Iowa. Yeah,

970
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: but I don't want to waste that talent. No, I

971
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: mean he's trying to make a Fitzpatrick like. You can

972
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: play them at corner, you can play them at safety.

973
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: It's sort of the beauty of him.

974
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can play in the slot.

975
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean he wouldn't play safety if you drafted

976
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: him as a corner. Of course, it's for our purposes.

977
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm not picking on Mike, but makes things a lot easier,

978
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: a lot easier because it's really cheating, Yeah, because he's

979
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: easily number one safety, and then you don't have to

980
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: come up with four other names, which was not easy

981
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: at safety in the rank, and you don't have to

982
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: come with a fifth corner, which is easy. I mean,

983
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: there's tons of those dudes to pick from. To me,

984
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: him and Fatanu are the same way. Yeah, you know,

985
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: it's like I want to draft him at the more

986
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: difficult and scarcer position, but I can fall back on

987
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: this guy, maybe be in a Pro Bowl guard safety

988
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, he ain't so bad.

989
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah he's gonna he's gonna play somewhere. The speed will

990
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: play on the outside, Yeah right.

991
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if the Steelers drafted him the gene. I

992
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if he would beat out Jackson from

993
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: day one, as in your two corner packet, but he'd

994
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 3: be your slot all day long, and he'd probably play

995
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: seventy percent of the snaps, you know, as a rookie,

996
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: if not one hundred, if he's one of your best

997
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: eleven easily, which he could be, which isn't a knock

998
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: on Jackson. Or let's say draft Patanu, you put him

999
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: at right tackle, and if he is, if he struggles

1000
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 3: and you can't resign or don't want to resign James Daniels,

1001
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: next year, maybe you draft another tackle and say, hey, Troy,

1002
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: you're moving into guard. You know, to me, that's kind

1003
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: of a nice umbrella for these guys.

1004
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't feel the same way about like Darius Robinson.

1005
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: I think, to me, Darius Robinson's a defensive end in

1006
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: this in this Steelers, in this defense. Whereas some teams

1007
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: may look at him, you know so well, he can

1008
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: play end or tackle in our in our four to

1009
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: three defense.

1010
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I for the Steelers. He's never going to go

1011
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: to t J. Watt's room. Yeah, I mean that's not

1012
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: going to happen, you know.

1013
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he body type wise, he kind of

1014
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: does kind of look like TJ.

1015
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 3: White.

1016
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean he's sculpted, huge, hands long, but he's a

1017
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: defensive end all day long in this defense.

1018
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in the he's in the same position room

1019
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: as Adams and Benton. You know, He's definitely different than

1020
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: those guys, but he's that's where he's going every day

1021
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: to work.

1022
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some of those kind of unicorns like that

1023
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: in this draft that. Okay, I can I can do

1024
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: some different things with these guys.

1025
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And I don't look at as much of

1026
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: a benefit with Robinson as I do those other two. Yeah,

1027
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, without question. Yeah, So I've waiting on the gene.

1028
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: I think he's solidified himself. I think he would go

1029
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: somewhere in the first round.

1030
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: I think so too has to. I mean I really

1031
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: really leaned towards tackle with twenty. But if he was

1032
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: a Steelers picker, like, I totally get it. Yeah, he's

1033
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: one the defensive players I would be like Okay, now

1034
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm like done on defense. Yeah, and six more picks

1035
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: on offense, you know.

1036
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so that that is now out of the way.

1037
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: So it's good little bit good news there also to

1038
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: Andandre Sweat, the big defensive tackle out of Texas, got

1039
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: himself in a little bit of trouble over the weekend

1040
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: with a d.

1041
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: W I Yeah, bad timing. I mean, I know he's

1042
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: a good time no, of course, of course. I mean,

1043
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: but it's not the Jalen Carter situation. But it always

1044
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: happens this time of year. Or there's a couple hopefully

1045
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: no more, that publicly get themselves in trouble doing something

1046
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: that they shouldn't, you know. I mean, hey, they're young men,

1047
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: they're more they're immature. They got a lot of whorld

1048
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: with their fingertips, they have a lot of opportunities. But man,

1049
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean you almost need to be in bubble wrap

1050
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: for these couple of months.

1051
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to get in any kind of

1052
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: trouble like this, right, I mean it's gonna cost you money, yeah,

1053
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean more so than just what you know what

1054
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: DWI cost John Q public. This is going to cost

1055
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: you some serious money.

1056
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And maybe the thing is, and this is not

1057
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: pointed at Sweat because I don't know the answer to this,

1058
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: but I've been in those rooms. There's one hundred players

1059
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 3: in this draft where there's a lot of concerns about concerns,

1060
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, like he's immature, or he may have an

1061
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: issue with alcohol, or he's been in barroom fights people

1062
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: don't know about, or etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. It's shoplifting

1063
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: when he was sixteen. I don't know if I can

1064
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: trust him, whatever it is. And then, you know, if

1065
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: you're wish you wash you on a player as a person,

1066
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: and then he does this, Now, well what direction are

1067
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: you going to go? You know obviously right, I mean

1068
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: he may be it might be the opposite. This guy's

1069
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: a pillar of the earth. I wish you'd marry my daughter.

1070
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: He should be team captain. He screwed up. Once, I'll

1071
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: let it, I understand, We'll call his agent, we'll talk

1072
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: it through. What happened. How bad was it? Not that

1073
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: it's ever good, but if there was already issues, it's

1074
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: going to really hurt you.

1075
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just another strike against you that, like.

1076
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 3: There were a lot of Jalen Carter concerns before he

1077
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: got in trouble, right, you know. I mean he was

1078
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: to manage them throughout the week and things like that.

1079
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's just you know, one more thing

1080
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: that a guy who's draft stock, quite frankly, had been

1081
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: moving down.

1082
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: I think I dropped him on my top five defensive

1083
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: tackles this week. I don't know how many snaps he

1084
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: could play for me.

1085
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: That's the problem. I mean, you know it with taking

1086
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: one of those nose tackle types.

1087
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the defensive players are getting faster and smaller,

1088
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: and he isn't. I mean, if he was, he three

1089
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: sixty six I think at the combine and at his

1090
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: pro day, so that's probably him in his best shape. Yeah, Like,

1091
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna show up at three forty five.

1092
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: He might show up at three seventy five. Now he

1093
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: got a problem, Yeah, an issue. He got a real problem.

1094
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna it's smaller. That was my

1095
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: concern with them.

1096
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: Is it an issue if you Latham not working out

1097
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: at all A little?

1098
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: I mean he's a little. Yeah, I mean it's not

1099
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: with Marvin Harrison. I mean I can watch the tape

1100
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: and see him run and you know, and frankly, do

1101
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 3: I care what Latham runs a forty in?

1102
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: No, But I'd like to see him do some position drills.

1103
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: I'd like to do something it did even bench. I mean,

1104
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: you would think that would be an easy one for him.

1105
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: I mean I'm sure, I mean bench his long arm.

1106
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: I mean he's not about say he's not built well

1107
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: to work out. I mean he's change the direction. Stuff

1108
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: is not going to be great.

1109
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: If you think back to remember, I mean, hey, and

1110
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: we were part of this, everybody making fun of Orlando

1111
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: Brown Junior in his workout, What do you run like

1112
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: a six?

1113
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: It was right, right, right.

1114
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: He's one of the worst workouts in combine history. Hasn't

1115
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: seemed to affect him as a player. He's not. No,

1116
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: I think he's overrated as a player. But he's an

1117
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: NFL starter.

1118
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, I mean they well, he was

1119
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: a third round pick and that was a hit. Yeah,

1120
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: I mean he clearly has been a hit. He's made

1121
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: a fortune since. Then again, I don't think he's worth

1122
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 3: the contract he's making. But he's one of the best

1123
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: twenty tackles on the planet or thirty tackles on the planet.

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00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: The Latham thing might help to steal it if if.

1126
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: It causes him to fall to twenty right, fine, y,

1127
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: you know.

1128
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: It is what it is, and his agent and his

1129
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: camp would know why put negative stuff out there? Will

1130
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: leave it. I mean, no, she didn't run a forty right.

1131
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: You know he's not the fastest guy in the play.

1132
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson didn't run a forty right, right.

1133
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, so he probably should well

1134
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: that one who was Fastah.

1135
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean for me, Latham. You know,

1136
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: in some ways you could look at Okay, what are

1137
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: you trying to hide here? Yeah, we all know that

1138
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: you're not going to run well.

1139
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, is it gonna be a five to five?

1140
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: Is it going to be a twenty inch vertical? Yeah?

1141
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 3: Then you're like, I don't know if I could take

1142
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: him a twenty I mean, if it's really bad, But man,

1143
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: I think it might hurt his stock in it in

1144
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: a draft that's so loaded at tackles, right, maybe he

1145
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 3: loses tiebreaker to fl Wagah or Seanhu or whoever they're

1146
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: you know, Fatanu, you know, one of the other f names.

1147
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: But would I hesitate to draft him. Not the slightest,

1148
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: nodest scenes that I know. You know, tape's good, Yeah,

1149
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: tape's great.

1150
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: So let's get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

1151
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. That's going to do it for our

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Speaker 2: number one of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with our number two right after this.