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Speaker 1: Hi, this is new due to the virus. I'm recording

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Speaker 1: quality on this episode of nets World. One of the

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Speaker 1: I think some very profound insights about where we are

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Speaker 1: historic context. I'm really pleased to welcome my guests, Dennis Brigger. Dennis,

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Speaker 1: I really wouldn't have you talked of about the two

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Speaker 1: compelling columns you've published in the last two weeks. The

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Speaker 1: Good German was published on January fifth, and your follow up,

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Speaker 1: The Good American, published in January twelve. And by the

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Speaker 1: way our listeners can find both articles and newts dot com.

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Speaker 1: You've just done such a great job. Can you talk

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Speaker 1: about what led you to write these two First, let

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Speaker 1: me just say what It's an honor for me to

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Speaker 1: be with you. Politicians are not known, and I don't

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Speaker 1: say this as an insult, because they have this about

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Speaker 1: their job. Generally, they don't think as much as they act.

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Speaker 1: You're a thinker and it is a joy to be

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Speaker 1: with you. I wrote that column because something happened to

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Speaker 1: me in the last year, which I can't believe happened Normally.

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Speaker 1: As you get older and I've devoted my life to

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Speaker 1: thinking through life, I didn't expect big changes in my

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Speaker 1: modifying and crystallizing ideas. But all of a sudden, something

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Speaker 1: I had been somewhat obsessed with since I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: was taken for granted, so much so that there's actually

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Speaker 1: a term the good German. The person who didn't go

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Speaker 1: he did nothing, and that was held in contempt. And

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Speaker 1: now I understand that the good German, and I wrote

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Speaker 1: in there the good Russian, the Russian who kept silent

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Speaker 1: they of course did nothing. And then I realized, wait

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, the average human of every nationality is

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Speaker 1: going to be the good German. And we have this

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Speaker 1: for me to write. Well, it's nobly painful because in

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Speaker 1: the cases you're describing, the people are faced with horrifying realities.

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Speaker 1: I mean Lenin and Stalin and the Gulag. On the

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Speaker 1: one hand, Hitler, the Nazi Party programs not just against Jews,

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Speaker 1: also against Gypsies, but also programs to kill children who

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Speaker 1: We're now faced with not yet that level of violence,

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Speaker 1: You've been teaching with Prig University, and you have a

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Speaker 1: How do we turn the corner on this? I have

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Speaker 1: been advocating that right now we disengage from their institutions

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Speaker 1: they create police institutions. So this is as clear a

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Speaker 1: Remember that the people who started Parlor did not do

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Speaker 1: it that only conservative speak. The conservative view is we

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Speaker 1: The most important is to take your kids out of

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Speaker 1: what I just said, we must disengage. They have taken

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Speaker 1: night television, elementary schools now feature The Lie and It

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Speaker 1: as they gave the pulitzerprise to The New York Times

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Speaker 1: So we must remove our kids. And I tell parents, look,

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Speaker 1: I've said this for years. You're playing Russian Roulette with

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Speaker 1: now it's true. For elementary school. Your first grader may

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Speaker 1: well have drag Queen Story Hour where a man dressed

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Speaker 1: Why would you would gamble with them? Coming out loathing

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to start homeschooling or to take your kid

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Speaker 1: you Since a significant increase in the number the people

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Speaker 1: In terms of how you've approached it with your organization,

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Speaker 1: go about it. The mission Prager University, better known generally

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Speaker 1: This was the irony. I'm somewhat of a biblical scholar.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound bad to say something like that about yourself.

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Speaker 1: All leftists are totalitarian. Liberals are not totalitarian. Conservatives are

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Speaker 1: This is the reason for our tragedy. If liberals actually

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Speaker 1: find is that Orwell's nineteen eighty four reads the current events.

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Speaker 1: and explain it? Is amazing. They don't have to go

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Speaker 1: I am extremely honored. Thank you so much. Newtsworld is

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