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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, February seventh, and as always, Jenkins and

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Speaker 2: Jones is hosted by My Good friends, Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, I'm a game.

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Speaker 2: The jet throw Jenkins aka John was Bubba's.

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Speaker 3: And it's not Sunday, it's fun. I mean, it's not Monday.

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Speaker 4: It's Sunday at seven am, and we tired as a motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, am, I appreciate you giving that piece

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Speaker 2: of context, but I had to let people know that's

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Speaker 2: how early we're waking up to try and break Joe

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Speaker 2: Rogan's record for you're jumping in, Mike, No, I'm the scorekeeper.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm the person that gin his book of world

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Speaker 2: record sends to make sure that the tally is correct.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that, Like I could believe that he

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Speaker 2: got in trouble for saying the N word on his podcast.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that there was a compilation of him

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Speaker 2: saying it.

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Speaker 3: That was super.

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Speaker 1: Fucking super cut. Zack Snyder, super cut, I read last night.

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Speaker 2: Spotify removed one hundred and ten episodes of his podcast.

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Speaker 3: I heard seventy last time? Did It Jumped?

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Speaker 1: Were there new were there new inward discoveries? Did the

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Speaker 1: inward test team that has been working so diligently the

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Speaker 1: last few days for Spotify uncover Some Hidden Inward fifty more.

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Speaker 4: Fifty more said one hundred and twenty Hey, bro, and

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Speaker 4: what's craziest in that video?

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Speaker 3: There was no context. It was just nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger.

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Speaker 3: Three minutes of that. That's insane. That's insane. Uh, And

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Speaker 3: you know, one hundred million for that man, you know.

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Speaker 1: Of course, of course the brokers are like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's saying it out of contest. Bro, there's no context

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Speaker 1: in which you ever need to say that word. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying there is you inward. It's saying

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Joe Rogan made a you know, a

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Speaker 1: ology video where he rambled for like six minutes and

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Speaker 1: he basically said the same thing. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not at all like, hats off to him for saying

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Speaker 1: that motherfucker you should have never said it to begin with,

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two, we still have to say there's

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Speaker 3: If you were not a nigga, just don't say it.

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Speaker 4: We still gotta say that shit, like like people are

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Speaker 4: still not only they're coming with that defense as if like, bro.

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Speaker 5: We already told you this nigga nigger, it makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Tyler mentioned last night we were talking

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Speaker 2: It's just not that difficult to not say it. It's

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Speaker 4: So I don't say any ratio epithets in our mind.

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Speaker 4: I don't even say the saw team.

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Speaker 3: I don't say the other word that is can be used.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't use any racial epithets at mine.

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Speaker 2: It's very easy, you know what I mean, Crackers not

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Speaker 4: I just don't say it because I don't need to.

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Speaker 4: I have nigga, like you know what I'm saying. When

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Speaker 3: I'm not going back to the projects. Gee, bro, I

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Speaker 1: And that's more than enough. It's so multipurpose, right, like

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Speaker 3: And fuck that.

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Speaker 1: Motherfuckers just plays stupid when it comes to this shit

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Speaker 2: You can't tell white people, and especially like a Joe

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's like that sets off

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Speaker 2: some fucking alarm bell in people's heads. So anyway, really

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Speaker 4: And he's still gonna get paid because the numbers still dumb,

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Speaker 4: like it's just wild, and people still listen to this

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Speaker 4: man to the to the level that they listen to him,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I guess that crowd

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Speaker 4: the crowd, like you said, that are defending it, you

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Speaker 3: So Joe Rogan has to be smart.

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Speaker 1: The prestine reputations of podcasters, it's a tough day.

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Speaker 2: Hard to get up and go to the salt mines today.

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Speaker 2: You know, we recover. Let's try to our nigga. Let's well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: here we are. We set the alarms. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: We're coming probably seventeen coming for the crown.

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Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones is coming from flip fucking in there

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Speaker 2: for the title belt.

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Speaker 3: On a real ship.

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Speaker 1: John might hit seventy an episode, but John Quinn hit

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Speaker 3: That's the whole point of this ship. We we we

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Speaker 4: Let's make it super cut nigga this episode to counteract

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Shit?

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Speaker 4: Oh lord, uh we set the universe, niggaz.

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Speaker 3: That's eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Kevin Durant and stephen A. Smith and

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Speaker 2: ms Wanda got involved this morning, which is when it

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Speaker 2: turns serious. Stephen A. Smith on some fairly typical stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith Shiit saw the news that the Nets might be

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Speaker 2: on the verge of imploding and said, in a very

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Speaker 2: podcastery type of way, Steven A. Smith, the original hot

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Speaker 2: takes sports podcaster in my brain, even more so than Skipper.

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Speaker 2: He said, the Godfather po the hot Father the pod.

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Speaker 3: Mike, did you say it the pod?

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Speaker 2: He said, If the Nets do not win a championship,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant is on the verge for being recognized more

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Speaker 2: so for the guy that left Steph Curry to go

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Speaker 2: with Kyrie Irving than he is for the two chips

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Speaker 2: and two finals. MVPs KD responded with, and I love

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Speaker 2: this egregious Steve, and I try to quote tweet it

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Speaker 2: and do some like you know, it is egregious, but

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Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen. I'm not saying I like it,

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Speaker 2: but that's what's gonna happen. And then KD quote tweeted

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Speaker 2: him today and said, this is actually the biggest insult

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Speaker 2: he could have said. He said, Steve, since you decided

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Speaker 2: to use called Steve to open the tweet.

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Speaker 3: Steve's Steve. I just realized that Steve.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a big difference between a Steve

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Speaker 1: and a Steven. You know, but he's a Steve Bro,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Bro. Those are different Stevens. They're not Steve's. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you would not call Stephen King Steve King Bro.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, but he's a fucking Steve I never

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Speaker 2: I know a couple black Steps, a couple of black Steve.

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Speaker 2: I've never met a black Steve before, Steve. Since you

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Speaker 2: decided to use ESPN to push your personal agendas, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure your minions will run with this story for you.

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Speaker 2: But if you believe this is what my career is

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Speaker 2: defined by, then you just a flat out hater. It's

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Speaker 2: his mom responded to Stephen A Smith ms Wanda said,

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Speaker 2: you're at it again with your limited thinking, negative narrative

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Speaker 2: baiting comments when will you show up better? More importantly,

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Speaker 2: when will you grow tired of this foolishness, to which

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Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith responded, yes, ma'am, I'm sorry with three

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the exact way you respond to a

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Speaker 1: it moving. So, you know, Stephen, you know, props in

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Speaker 1: for that. But Stephen, he's bothering on this. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be jokes that he left, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, the well run Warriors organization for this fucking

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Speaker 1: dysfunctional dubster fire of the Nets. Of course it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be jokes. It's not gonna be some career defining shit.

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Speaker 1: When you think of, you know, KD. You're gonna think of,

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Speaker 1: you know, a seven foot one of one unicorn, greatest

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Speaker 1: score we've ever seen. Perhaps that's what you're gonna think about.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna be like, oh, he fucked his whole

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Speaker 1: legacy up when he went to the Nets. No, I

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Speaker 1: don't think anyone's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Think that, Tyler. You said everything. I mean, that's exactly

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Speaker 3: what you think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's ridiculous that Stephen, I mean what Steve, Steve,

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Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's I don't STI We

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Speaker 4: saw him come back from the injury and be in

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Speaker 4: the MVP conversation, an injury that we were wonder if

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Speaker 4: we were gonna see if we would be anywhere close

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Speaker 4: we were if he.

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Speaker 3: Was eighty percent, we'd be shocked.

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Speaker 4: Last year in the playoffs might have been the best

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Speaker 4: basketball we've seen from KD.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. If they don't win, any

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Speaker 3: guys should do a KD.

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Speaker 4: My nigga KDB KD and like a motherfucker, you feel

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you said, the best score we've

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Speaker 4: ever seen. I mean, there might be some jokes while

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Speaker 4: he's playing. After he's playing, anybody gonna talk about none

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Speaker 4: of that.

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Speaker 2: Any athletes whose careers are defined by a free agency move,

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Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to think. I mean, Bron obviously,

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Speaker 2: his free agency has been such a big deal a

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Speaker 2: couple of different times. But no one's gonna think about

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Speaker 2: him going to No one's gonna think about the dis

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Speaker 2: like the decision is the most famous free agent moment

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Speaker 4: will be a lot of people saying that KD couldn't

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Speaker 3: But that's about it. I have friends those are nerds.

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Speaker 2: but they're they're not the Twitter ones you know when

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Speaker 2: But the loudest ones in the Arena when they think

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Speaker 2: I would just be super grateful that in the middle

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying that those will be the only those

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Speaker 2: Right, I would not say those people have shaped basketball

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Speaker 4: So h if you've watched KD play basketball, you know

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Speaker 1: I do think there is an interesting discussion here though,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you know we've seen the ring move,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, The needle move for Wade

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You went to the greatest regular season team of all time,

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Speaker 4: Twenty seventeen, he was the best player in the fucking world,

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Speaker 4: it was buckets, right, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 4: him and nobody, nobody, like you said, it didn't move anybody,

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Speaker 4: and it shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't, you know what i mean. The rings that

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Speaker 4: You know, for for uh way to win that ring

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Speaker 4: And I think he beat Dirk that was like what

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Speaker 3: Rats, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: For so for so in the next year, he's he

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Speaker 3: In the finals, it didn't happen the way he wanted to.

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Speaker 4: But then during the year he was going crazy you

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Speaker 4: uh uh. He there's no way that the rings that

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Speaker 4: the same place and put those other people.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: As far as the player, he's a better player, but

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Speaker 2: If there's anore aspect of KD that will outlast his

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Speaker 2: Like that's the way it was. Design is designed to

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I just can't imagine looking back on

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Speaker 4: But like Tyler said, though, you probably won't talk about

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: You know, undercovered Los Angeles Lakers. It's a crime how

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Speaker 4: So if we keep it at a stack, we've talked about

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah for sure. But I do I do

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Speaker 2: last night on ABC, the Braun proved that he's still Braun.

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Speaker 2: First came back from injury, casual triple double, crazy reverse

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Speaker 2: I have a job that pays one forty one, four

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Speaker 1: And he was like, imagine you're on the sideline of

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Speaker 3: I'm out of there. Bro.

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Speaker 2: Land is real cheap in Indiana or wherever. You'll never

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Speaker 1: That's so wow. And the thing is, of course you

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Speaker 2: Man.

436
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 1: It's I think everyone's kind of giving up on him.

437
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: I think even if you love Russ, you know what

438
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

439
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: Do you and I were at the top of the

440
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 2: list of people who are like, they're figure this out.

441
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 2: Russ is the best.

442
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 1: Yes, I think even if you love Russ, if you

443
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: know like we do, I think you're at the He

444
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: needs a reduced throw until he figures it out. And

445
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: he might not ever figure shit out, and it might

446
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 1: be done for us. And it's so weird because I

447
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: think we thought that the Russ decline was going to

448
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,239
Speaker 1: be him, you know, losing that fucking super athleticism he has,

449
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: and that's not the case.

450
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,479
Speaker 3: The motherfucker just can't play basketball anymore. Bro.

451
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 2: I do think some of it, some of the lack

452
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 2: of ability to finish at the rim, is it like

453
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: starting to go. I mean, I think some of that,

454
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 2: some of that's happening. But you're You're absolutely right. I

455
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: think the thing is he needs the He needs what

456
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 2: Ad just had. He needs the mid season off season

457
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 2: to take him, you know. And I think some of

458
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: that is Broun John is shaking his head because he

459
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: thinks it's an unfixable problem. But Ad looked terrible before

460
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: he went out too in stretches, and Bron gave him

461
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 2: the take your time, get in the gym, get your

462
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: body right again, and come back. You know what I mean,

463
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: Like it's hard to hit the reset button in the

464
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: middle of the season. I think Bron wanted Russ in

465
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: part so that he would have the ability to do

466
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: that when he needed to. And Russ has obviously not

467
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: been the guy who could give that to him, which

468
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: is why the Lakers are probably going to be in

469
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 2: a playing game. But I think Russ needs that. I mean,

470
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 2: I think he needs that weeks away, man, Like go

471
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: be with your family, get your body right, get your

472
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: mind right, come back, have a big first game back,

473
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: and you know the Lakers fans will put that shit

474
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: behind him quickly if he turns it around.

475
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: Russ's game was completely predicated on him being bigger and

476
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 4: stronger and more athletic than everybody his entire career. He

477
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 4: could move anything to do what the fuck he wanted

478
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: to do. He never had to learn how to really

479
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: play basketball. He could do whatever the fuck he wanted to.

480
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: Now he has to play basketball, and he doesn't know how.

481
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: He's fucking fifty percent in layups this year, we ain't

482
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: talking him. He was sixty percent with dunks fifty percent

483
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 4: because he has no touch.

484
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: He's never had to fucking lay the ball up when.

485
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 4: You're looking down into the fucking rim every time you're

486
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: in the air, you know what I mean.

487
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: I mean all the.

488
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: Triple double shit that I get, all of that, But

489
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 4: he could literally move motherfuckers out the way. You couldn't

490
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 4: stay in front of him, you know what I mean.

491
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 4: When he got to the rim, he was stronger than you,

492
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 4: you know, rocking a baby on these little point guards shit.

493
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: You know back then. He can't do that shit anymore.

494
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: He doesn't have that anymore.

495
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 4: He lost his fucking superpower. Now he's fucking me out

496
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: there trying to play NBA basketball, you know what I mean.

497
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: And he doesn't know how to play the game. And

498
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: it's blatantly obvious, bro, And I hate to see that

499
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: they boot his ass. But what was wild to me

500
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 4: was Ruzer came from their gut. They couldn't even control

501
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: it them. Niggas is stressed in the fucking stands.

502
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 3: Nigga.

503
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 4: No, it was a panicky ass. No like nigga please,

504
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: it was a They were pleading with them. They weren't

505
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: being disrespectful. They were asking Russ not to shoot my nigga. Please,

506
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 4: We've seen enough this year, you know what I mean.

507
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 4: But that's what's going on with Russ. He never had

508
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: to learn how to play basketball.

509
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: Because he was super athletic.

510
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: He was a superhuman and he lost his superpower and

511
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 4: now he has to just play off the game.

512
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: It was like like Mike when he when the shoes

513
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: stopped working.

514
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: Brons just send him to wherever Bron goos. You know

515
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: what I mean.

516
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 4: We need the superhaa bro eighty left, thought about it,

517
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: came back and got his mind right because it wasn't

518
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: his body.

519
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: I do think he was. You know, we talked about

520
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: I do think he had booked up to try and

521
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: be like a more dominant center, and I think that

522
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: he took some of that off.

523
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: Just look what I'm saying, he still had it.

524
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 4: Russ doesn't have what Russ had to make him Russ,

525
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: you know.

526
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: What I mean.

527
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Moving on, let's talk about.

528
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: We talked about that too. After next year, who's gonna

529
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: pick that man up? This might be his last two

530
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 4: years in the league. Maybe could very well be. I

531
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: hate to say it, I love Russ.

532
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: I mean you know what I mean.

533
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: Look, if we all know that Presty is in full

534
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: tank mode and I think a welcoming back of Russ

535
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: that kind of aligns with everyone there. So we I

536
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: think if ok passes on him, he's for sure done.

537
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: But I think Presty is in tank mode and if

538
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: Russell will definitely help you tank from what we've seen

539
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: this season, so he might go.

540
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: Getting paid forty four million this year what they could

541
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 4: have paid that man to be him.

542
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: Now he got you know, we didn't even talk about

543
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: the fact he was not on the court in overtime.

544
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: And Frank Vogel, I'll say this, I mean very clearly

545
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: has got whatever green light he needs to make whatever

546
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: decision he needs to make to win the game. Bron's

547
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: whole post game did you hear? Bron's post game interview

548
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: was about being accountability, being accountable to the great coaching

549
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: that they're receiving. You know that all players need to

550
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: be accountable to that.

551
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: Bron up there not only you know, taking a dick

552
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: at his homework, but he's lying too.

553
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: Great coaching. What no, what he's talking about.

554
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Defensively, He's like we He's like, everyone's got a you know,

555
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: every player on the roster is accountable. And Frank said,

556
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: you know, they asked Frank about mentioning him. He said,

557
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: I hope the reaction will be that that player plays better.

558
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, goddamn God, damn Russ, you're that player,

559
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: that player, that's what you're at now.

560
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 6: Got Let's talk about Ja Moran Westbrook. Fuck sick bro,

561
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 6: Damn nigga.

562
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: You got a name on the back of Jersey. Motherfucking

563
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: two k nigga.

564
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Damn God. Let's talk about his ascendency this year. One

565
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: of the most fun things happening in the NBA thirty three,

566
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: seven and five last night. But more than that, I

567
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: want Jaw to get an endorsement deal with some kind

568
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: of a personalized motivational speech company that you know, he

569
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: just he could be doing some we crawl up the

570
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: Chimney type speech like for your alarm, bro. This man

571
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 2: is on another level and his quotables are off the fucking.

572
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Charts by everyone loves that. You know, we don't run

573
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: from from smoke, We run up the Chimney quote. That's great,

574
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: But the ship, he said right after that, the you know,

575
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: if the baby see us crying, what they that's the

576
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: motherfucking gym right there, Dog.

577
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: I typed my stick. If you're crying, that's real as

578
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: fun though. Man, that's a country assaying. That's a country nigga. Bro.

579
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: I love I think, Bro. I don't miss fucking Memphis games.

580
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 4: I think this is one of the funnest teams we've

581
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: seen in a long time and will see you know

582
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: what I mean.

583
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: I think people should tap it. I think this is

584
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: fucking special.

585
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: And what's wild about when he said that climbing up

586
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: the chimney.

587
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: That wasn't just a quotable.

588
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: That nigga standing on that motherfucking shit. He meant every

589
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: fucking syllable of that ship, you know what I mean?

590
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: Like these he he he really moves that way. Gee,

591
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: you feel me like dog, he dunk throw somebody like

592
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: yesterday posted on his ig and put a fucking casket

593
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: on that motherfucker bit this respectful.

594
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: That's an NBA player.

595
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: He climbing like that. Nigga, You just a body to him,

596
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: you know, get out the.

597
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: Way, bubble. You know what I'm saying. It's wow, Gee,

598
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: But I love I love that man. Dog.

599
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: I think he I think they're one of the funnest

600
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 4: teams we've seen a long time, and we need to

601
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 4: fucking tap in every game you can.

602
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: Right now, let's talk about trade rumors, deadlines coming up

603
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: this week, all kinds of stuff flying around about what

604
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: the nets are gonna do, you know, potentially moving James Harden.

605
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: We just had a move between the Clippers and the

606
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: Trailblazers that I think everyone has Dame. Everyone's kind of

607
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: looking at Dame like you're not gonna run from this grind,

608
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: from this.

609
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 5: Level of grind.

610
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: The grinds changed. This is a different grid. This grind

611
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: is a different grind than yesterday's grind. Bro, are you

612
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: ready to run yet?

613
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: Yesterday's grindri is not today dog man. What are you

614
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: guys hoping to see this week? And and just on

615
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: a personal emotional level, how do you feel for Dame?

616
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just it's this is why loyalty in

617
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: a professional world is a an overrated It's overrated, man.

618
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you you have the path you

619
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: want for your career, but look, the three of us

620
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: have talked about this. I have the personality of a

621
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: nineteen you know, of a baby boomer worker. I wanted

622
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: to go work at a place for thirty five years,

623
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: put my time in retire, Like that's personality wise, but

624
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: that's not what the world is today. Like you know

625
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, I got laid off three years into

626
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: that shit. Bro, we're millennials. We don't get to just

627
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: choose that shit. And similarly, you might want to be,

628
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: you know, a nineteen sixties basketball player that gets to

629
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: just go and be the guy. But I that's not

630
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: how the world works, man. I just don't know that

631
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: it's realistic to even shoot for that At this point.

632
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

633
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Dame's got to be a bit disillusion It's

634
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: gotta be a part of him that knows you're not

635
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: getting a ring in Portland. But you know, we saw

636
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: the the you if you remember the freestyle he dropped

637
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: last summer. And this kind of goes back to the

638
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: whole needle movement conversation that we had a few minutes

639
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: ago where he said, you know, I'm trying to get

640
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: to that to that Dirki Jann it's you know level

641
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know who I'm saying, because we talked

642
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: about how Dirky Yonna smooth and needles by staying put

643
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: where they were, you know, getting that ring and how

644
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: those rings, you know, hold a lot of weight. And

645
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: he said that shit in a freestyle. But bro it

646
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: ain't happening in Portland. And you know, Dame, if he

647
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: hasn't made up his mind yet, he's gonna have to

648
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: reach a decision.

649
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: And am I gonna stay put here? Am I gonna be

650
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: a Portland life? Or where? Am I gonna go?

651
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Somewhere where I can you know, have a legit shot

652
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: at getting a ring, because Portland's not gonna be a

653
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: place that's gonnaive hm that legit shot.

654
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: He said, he's not staying because of the team, It's

655
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: because of the people around him. He's kind of like,

656
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: you know, I'm in the same way Brin is when

657
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: other big players, when you go places, you make a

658
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: lot of.

659
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: Money for the community surrounding you, you know what I mean.

660
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: So I respect that. I think that kind of box

661
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: the men, though.

662
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: You can't say something like that and be like, all right, man,

663
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: I was playing, you know what I mean. I'm shaken,

664
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

665
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't, I don't.

666
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: It's I don't feel bad for him. Because he chooses this,

667
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Somebody said, how y'all lose

668
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: a norm palletrade twice?

669
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Said that ship, how you

670
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: out to the normal problem twice? You know what I mean?

671
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: Like it's just this horrible decision making, you know what

672
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: I mean? But hey, it's not. I don't feel bad

673
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: because this is what he wanted, you know what I mean?

674
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, the grind is like you sure did it.

675
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: It's like you really don't want to run yet, grind

676
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: tapping on that Man show like bro.

677
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: Bro, I mean trying to help you out, like you

678
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I

679
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: don't get it, bro, But it's not. Also one thing

680
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: you talked about like he want that Dirk and you.

681
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: Aren't Dirk or Yiannis. It ain't there for you, Baba.

682
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: You need some real ones with you, you know what I mean?

683
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: So hey, you know, let's talk about uh. Tyler is

684
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: a big UNC fan coach k coaching his last game

685
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: Chapel Hill last night. Are you one of those like

686
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: it was fun to hate him or you were like, yeah,

687
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here forever? Like where are

688
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: you at emotionally, Tyler.

689
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: It it wasn't fun to hate him because coach k

690
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: isn't a fun hatable villain, you know what I mean.

691
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: He's a very cut in dry you know, he's his

692
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: fucking he's dry as fuck. He's never giving us a

693
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: real great quotable. You know what I'm saying, He's not.

694
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be Oh, I'm gonna mis hating him. Nah,

695
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: you can do, Bro, You know what I'm saying. It

696
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: wasn't really fun hating you. It was just something to do.

697
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I respect it.

698
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've watched Duke basketball for probably thirty years. I

699
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: think ninety two was actually when I first started watching

700
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 4: that shit. And are you gonna shed it here at

701
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: the end of the season, bro, Fuck, I watched like

702
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: four games in the last two years, you know what

703
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: I mean. If I'm keeping it a stack, you know

704
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: what I mean? They got fucking Paulo was fucking insane.

705
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

706
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: You stopped watching college basketball because of one of Den's.

707
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: No, No, that's the energy I'm no, I mean, And

708
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: to me, it was more like, I mean, I got

709
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: tired of seeing him funk off great talent when he

710
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: didn't win one with Zion, I'm like, nigga, all right, bro,

711
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: you can, I mean you could, really you can. Let

712
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: let let let let all boy take this shit over.

713
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: You feel me like I feel like he's he's he

714
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: hasn't learned how to. He hasn't figured it out. Like

715
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: when you look at Tatum, what the player was Tatum?

716
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: When he was playing with Tatum and Ingrim on the

717
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: same squad, r J and Zion on the same squad,

718
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: you feel and with.

719
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: Tatum and Ingram, he ain't do ship with that team.

720
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: Dog.

721
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: You feel me like he couldn't, you know, like Tatum

722
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: looked regular that. I mean, we were shocked the tape

723
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: I saw Tatim in high school. I'm like, what the fuck?

724
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: Like his worst years in basketball were while he was

725
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 4: with coach k You feel what I'm saying. You had,

726
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: you know, other than like the a SEC tournament, But yeah, gee,

727
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if he's really figured out

728
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: uh today's game. I mean, he's one of the best

729
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: coaches of all time. But you have this type of

730
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: talent and you ain't winning like that Zion ship was flagrant.

731
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: Zion and r J there's no fucking way in the planet, dude,

732
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: you could have win Tyler for show with your basketballnd

733
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: you probably could have figured something out to coach some

734
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: that Nick niggas to a chip.

735
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, Like, so, I mean it

736
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: was fun, but you know, so shired the guy. Have

737
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: they made that official? He's what jo a guy?

738
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 4: Shres a guy, yep, shy guy and the young dudes

739
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: love Shire.

740
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

741
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what ex's and those, but I mean,

742
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: like I've seen like I don't know and this I'll

743
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: say this is the last point. Coach k like he's

744
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: had some some big fuck up moments, like when they

745
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 4: were up ten against Yukon with like a minute and

746
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: a half, when they had I think it was Okra

747
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 4: four and Gordon on the team in the final four and.

748
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: Then he does this fucking weave dude, they had I

749
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: think it was JJ.

750
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: All had was JJ Reddick and fucking and uh Douhan

751
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: and they were basically gifted the fucking game and he

752
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: stopped him from playing how they were playing slow the

753
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: game down with two minutes left and and and Ocle

754
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 4: four and them came back and took over the game

755
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: and won the chip against a team that Duke would

756
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 4: have definitely beat the next team.

757
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: So he's had some big moments.

758
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: He's done some silly asshit where he's losing games, changing

759
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: the energy of game on some scary ship.

760
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: You feel me, So don't let the door hit you

761
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: right right, But yeah, it's it's time. It's time.

762
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: Like all podcasts, everyone you're listening to today is well

763
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: past their physical prime.

764
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: So I was.

765
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: I was very happy to see. It is nice as

766
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: weird moving as we're getting older that hurt John Tyler

767
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: and I have long accepted it. No, no, it is.

768
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 4: It's just obvious, so obvious now, like my quad and

769
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: my knee are trashed right now. My quad, knee and

770
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: backward trash last night. You feel me, So I might

771
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: be feeling it more than y'all. Actually when you say that.

772
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: Because you're trying. You're trying, why, that's why you're.

773
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: Working out normal workouts and it you know, it.

774
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: Is nice as we're going through it to see that

775
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: professional athletes are like pushing hope for everyone because maybe

776
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: it's nutrition and science. I have no idea pushing the

777
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: bounds of what makes sense Kelly Slater, at fifty years old,

778
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: just won one of the biggest surfing championships in the

779
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: world and is now thinking about retirement. He and Braun

780
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: and Tom Brady apparently have a were washed but still

781
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: great group chat they've been in since Tom Brady retired,

782
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: and Braun even said I think he said a piece

783
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: of me left when Tom Brady retired. So these dudes

784
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: are defying physical expectations. But I'm just trying to picture

785
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: fifty years old winning a big win like a pipeline

786
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: surfing championship. This shit does not make any fucking sense.

787
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: Bro, that's wow.

788
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: And like surfing is, you know, people think of it

789
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: as a leisure activity, But bro, do you know the

790
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: fucking core strength? You know what I'm saying, You have

791
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: to have to fucking be an Olympic level surfer and

792
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: all that shit like that. It takes a whole fucking lot.

793
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Bro, It takes a lot of core strength to stand

794
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: up on a surfboard.

795
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: Right.

796
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's winning a championship at fifty.

797
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: That is crazy. Bro, That'shit's crazy.

798
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm not going to pretend to know anything about this, nigga.

799
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: I think I watched the doc on him like six

800
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: years ago. I have no Kelly Slater is of surfing.

801
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: I would say, like what Braun is of basketball.

802
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: It's like if you don't follow basketball at all, just

803
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: like if you've heard of a basketball player, even if

804
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: you don't like sports, Like you're aware that space Jam

805
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: came out, you know what I mean.

806
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: He's that dude. He's the face of their sport.

807
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: But to do anything at fifty competition wise, to me,

808
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: that shit's just crazy. All right, this is a personal

809
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: topic for me, but I just want to discuss this.

810
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: The three of us are great friends. But like the

811
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: one great friend activity we've not done together is we

812
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: haven't stolen anything together, and so.

813
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: That is a bonding moment.

814
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: Did you see the news story about a gold cube?

815
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 2: John has no idea what the fuck I'm talking about

816
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: right now? Did you see the new story about the

817
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: gold cube in the middle of Central Park last week?

818
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: I saw you tweeting about it.

819
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: It's worth two million dollars, is sitting there. It apparently

820
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: has a security detail, but I feel like they're probably

821
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: somewhat amateurish, you know. I think it's a security detail

822
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: we could do something with. It's real pure gold it's

823
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: worth two million dollars. And if you look at the cube,

824
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: it's actually not very big. It was photographed to look

825
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: like it was big as fuck, but it's not even

826
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: knee high. And all I'm saying is, I think we

827
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: should steal the golden cube fro. This is like good.

828
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: Podcast Nicholas k in the line one, you know, saying

829
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: we need to bring him in the fold for this

830
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: we can go.

831
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: I'll bet you that motherfucker weighs like three thousand pounds though,

832
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: that's what I'm wanting.

833
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: It's not even that heavy.

834
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: Yes, oh, I thought it was. We need to steal

835
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 3: that motherfucker. That's crazy that gold is that valuable?

836
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: That a fucking hollow ass shoe box is fucking two

837
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: million dollars.

838
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: Bro, How much would it be if it was solid?

839
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah, all it's not even

840
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: that big.

841
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Here's my plan. Number one melted down and number two

842
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: put it in my pocket.

843
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna melt it down on the spot.

844
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: Is that the there's portable smelting kits. We just melted down.

845
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: You gotta get it into one of the little killing cups.

846
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: You're just dropping in the you know, like a big

847
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: park of pocket and you walk out.

848
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: Of there with the gold cubes.

849
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: Motherfucker trying to send us on a dummy mission. Dog,

850
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: we're trying to hit us on the crash mission. Ug,

851
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: melt it down. I'll do the smelting. I'll do the smelting,

852
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: and I'll weave the park. We'll drive to get away car.

853
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: Go see what y'all know, and be like at least

854
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 4: two seconds into smelting it when forty eight niggas come

855
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: out the fucking woods. All right, there, my boy, it

856
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: was fun doing the pot. There's no Jenkins and Jenkins

857
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: here though here.

858
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: It'll be all be for.

859
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: It'd be great publicity, you know what I mean? No

860
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones. Heist of the gold Cube guardy B.

861
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: And Dragonfly Jones arrested, the Jeff Jickens still on the loops.

862
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: The jeffre j is known as John Nichols trying to

863
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: cross the border.

864
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about I have not seen the

865
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: new Cosby doc. I've heard is very good. But I've

866
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: also heard that Tyler's tweets make an appearance in the dock,

867
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: which makes me think it might be the kind of

868
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: a doc on a horrible person I might want to watch.

869
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Do you know what they put in there yet? Tyler,

870
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

871
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: I was gonna like, you know, take a look at it,

872
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: but so it was like four parts, and I was like,

873
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: I am not fucking watching four hours just to see

874
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: one of my tweets, like I'll see it in a

875
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: screenwrip or something, hopefully one of my devoted Twitter friends.

876
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: Can you know, tell me what they said, because I'm

877
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: not sitting to four hours of that Mick rib looking motherfucker.

878
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: And I just wonder what sweet they put out there,

879
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: because I have been lighting Bill Cosby ass up, I

880
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: do not like that motherfucking dog. I don't think there's

881
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: anything that's like PG or you know g ready that

882
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I have said about that.

883
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: Dude, Bro, you could you're a stream shot the screamshot

884
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: here Hall of Fame ship. They put that in the documentary.

885
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I might.

886
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't have four hours to spend on someone I

887
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: think is a terrible person, but I might have to

888
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: just to see on an HBO screen that tweet.

889
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: Bro, what is what is it? Where's the doc?

890
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: Heat?

891
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: What's showtime? Oh?

892
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: Showtime?

893
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: You want to showtime doc? And You're like I don't

894
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: need to see it. I saw it what I tweeted

895
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: it like that. That's a personality and it's mind blowing.

896
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: If you ain't dropping that bag off, I don't give

897
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: a fuck, bro, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's

898
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: all I care about. If I got paid off that,

899
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I'd of be like, yes, please send me the cut man.

900
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: You know, tweets are public domain or whatever the fuck,

901
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: and they didn't.

902
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 3: Cut me in on us. I don't give a fuck.

903
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 3: Is so, Bro? You are different? Gee?

904
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Tyler, I want to give you a chance. I

905
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: think if there's anything remotely resembling a public service that

906
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 2: we do on this podcast, it's when you are able

907
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: to use your professional experience to help give advice to

908
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: the people who listen to this show. And a couple

909
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, we haven't had a chance to talk

910
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: about it. We're running at a time a woman destroyed

911
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: her career. She did the whole lighting herself on fire

912
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 2: on Twitter thing, she lost everything for basically talking about

913
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: as a recruiter that that she sort of gleefully would

914
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: underpay people or whatever. You have experience on negotiation, on

915
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: being a recruiter and all this and I just wanted

916
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: to give you a chance to number one let us

917
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: know how you feel about her, and then number two

918
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: pass on some advice to the Jenkins and Jones community

919
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: for sure.

920
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: See yes, being the recruiter that I am, well, you know,

921
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: to to give the listeners some background, there was this

922
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: recruiter who tweeted out, you know, I was talking to

923
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: a candidate for like one hundred and thirty thousand dollars

924
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: position they only you know, wanted eighty five thousand. It's

925
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: not my job to teach you how to negotiate salaries,

926
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, And that was some

927
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: dickhead shit, And I'm gonna tell you some real shit.

928
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: As a recruiter, I don't like a lot of recruiters,

929
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

930
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: And this is like a prime example of why I

931
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: don't like a lot of recruiters, because, for one, a

932
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: lot of recruiters are on like some power.

933
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: Trip bullshit where they realize all the.

934
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Powers that they have over these people who want, you know, jobs,

935
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: and they flex on it and their dickheads like this

936
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: isn't the first recruiter to go viral on some bullshit

937
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: like this, like we see recruiters all the time getting

938
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: asked up like if you're not sending a cover letter,

939
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: I delete you your application before even looking at it. Like,

940
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of here with that nineteen fifty

941
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: eight Madman shit. Bro, It's twenty twenty two, and you know, and.

942
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: You know that recruiters are terrible present company excluded because

943
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: they're so insulated in a bubble of people who think

944
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: and say stupid shit like that that they don't realize

945
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: they're going to get destroyed on Twitter for saying it.

946
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: They think that's like, oh, these are the jokes we

947
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: make about how stupid society is.

948
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: Exactly, Bro, I firmly believe there is no such thing

949
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: as an okay recruiter. You are either great at it

950
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: or you're terrible at it. You know what I'm saying,

951
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: because think about all the all the interactions you had

952
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: with recruiters, right, Like, you've either had a recruiter you know,

953
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: hit you up, Hey, you know, I want to get

954
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: your an interview for this job. They get you the interview,

955
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: you don't hear from them ever again until that two

956
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: month later mass email when they've closed out the position

957
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: and they tell you that you didn't make the cut

958
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right Like, no one has ever had a

959
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: five out of ten experience with the recruiters, either one

960
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: out of ten or a ten out of ten, you

961
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know that's a like

962
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: one out of ten experience. And then you'll have a

963
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: fucking amazing recruiter reaches out to you, gets you the interview,

964
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: you know, preps you for the interview, follows up with

965
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: you after the interview. You know less, you know if

966
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: you got the job or not. If you didn't get

967
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: the job, they'll be like, hey, you didn't get the job.

968
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: I hate that this happened. I willa circle back to

969
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: you when something else opens up. They reach back to

970
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: you two months later, get you another interview, maybe get

971
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: you the job. Right Like, that's a ten out of

972
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: ten recruiter, and you're either one of the other. Like

973
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: I said, there's no such thing as an okay recruiter.

974
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: But I the reason I don't like this recruiter in

975
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: particular is because, for one, like I said, the power

976
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: trip shit that she's on that a lot of recruiters

977
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: are on, and too, the company man shit that she's

978
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: on that a lot of recruiters are on right. A

979
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: lot of recruiters want to save their company money instead

980
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: of getting their candidates paid. And I am not one

981
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: of those recruiters. I want these motherfuckers to cash out,

982
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: you feel me? Because the dog like like, how do

983
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you fuck? Can you feel good about yourself? Know whing

984
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: you're fucking someone out of like forty thousand a year?

985
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: Right?

986
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Like you just get a fucking pat on the back

987
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: from your from your manager like, hey, great job. Meanwhile,

988
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: this is a real life person who's gonna be working

989
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: at this job for like five or six years, leaving

990
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: fucking thirty thousand a year on the table, leaving like

991
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty one hundred eighty thousand on the

992
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: table during their time, they're fucking half a mortgage, a

993
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: kid's college fun. And you're cool with doing that to

994
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: someone just to get a fucking pad on the back

995
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: from your manager, Like that's some boot licking shit, bro.

996
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: And I don't, like I said, I don't fuck with

997
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: a lot of recruiters for reasons like that dog, because,

998
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: like I said, I try to get my candidates paid.

999
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: This is not my money. I want motherfuckers to cash out.

1000
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: You feel me.

1001
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: I have, Like she said, it's not my duty to

1002
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, teach people how to negoshake. It

1003
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: might not be, but it's I take that on. You know,

1004
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: it's a duty of mind, because when I see cannis

1005
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: underselling themselves, I tell them flat out, you know what

1006
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like I'm gonna give y'all, you know,

1007
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: for one with salary negotiations, I come flat out and

1008
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: I tell candidates, you know, this is a blah blah

1009
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: blah position.

1010
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: This is the salary. Is that acceptable for you? And

1011
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: we take things from there.

1012
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: There are times, however, like when I'll see like applicants

1013
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: who you know, email us and you know they're you know,

1014
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: a great applicant, and I will email them like a

1015
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: questionnaire or screen or whatever. You know what I'm saying,

1016
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: just at some hr shit that we have to do

1017
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: where you know, we get there. You know, are you

1018
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: a citizen when you need sponsorship or whatever? You know,

1019
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: when would you be able to start if you know

1020
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: you accepted a position with us and you know what's

1021
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: your desired salary? Is a is a question on there, right,

1022
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: And there will be Cannas who undersell themselves on that

1023
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: salary question.

1024
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: Is it more common for people to undersell or oversell themselves?

1025
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: Undersell for sure? Undersell way is way more frequent. And

1026
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: I do not let cannis undersell themselves. Like if I'm

1027
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: reaching out to a candadate about a one hundred and

1028
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand position that they applied for, and I

1029
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: shooting that questionnaire and I see them come back like

1030
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: ninety thousand, you know, when we have that conver sation,

1031
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: when I talk to them before you know, setting up

1032
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: an interview with them, I tell them, this isn't a

1033
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: hundred twenty five thousand dollar position. You put ninety thousand

1034
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: as your desire salary. You're not a ninety thousand dollar talent.

1035
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You have a one hundred

1036
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand dollars plus resume, you have a

1037
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: hundred twenty five thousand dollar plus experience run on that.

1038
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: Do not understay yourself short in this interview process or

1039
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: with anyone else you interview with. And I will tell candidates,

1040
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: is it okay if I, you know, put one hundred

1041
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand on your desired salary on this on

1042
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: this screen. You know what I'm saying, because we have

1043
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: to put that in the system, and shit, you know

1044
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: when we attach it to a person's file. So I

1045
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: don't want a manager interviewing someone and they're like, oh,

1046
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: this person is great and then they go look at

1047
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: the screen and say, oh, and we can get it

1048
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: for ninety thousand awesome. Know the fuck you can't you

1049
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna get this person for one hundred twenty five thousand,

1050
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: just like the position says it is.

1051
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1052
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: So, but my advice is to people who are out

1053
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: here and if you're negotiating with someone, I would say,

1054
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: do not put your number out there without asking about

1055
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: the salary range first, you know what I'm saying. Because

1056
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: once you.

1057
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Can do that, you get they say what do you

1058
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: want to make? You can say what's the salary range?

1059
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and you should do that should be your

1060
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: answer every time. And the recruiter is gonna do one

1061
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: of two things. They're either gonna tell you the salary

1062
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: range you know for the position, or they're gonna tell

1063
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: you it's opening and it's depending on experience. Now, if

1064
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: they tell you it's open on dependent on experience, it's

1065
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: one of two things there too, that could very well

1066
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: be true or it could be some bullshit. They could

1067
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: be trying to, you know, hold out on that info

1068
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: with hopes that you under sell yourself. So when if

1069
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: they tell you that you know, dependent on experience is open,

1070
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: what you do then is you tell them, Okay, I'm

1071
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna have do some market research and get back to you.

1072
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: And that's not some bullshit that you're blowing up there,

1073
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: as You're gonna really do some market research. And I'm

1074
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: gonna tell you the market research you're gonna do here.

1075
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do is you're gonna go to the

1076
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: job description of the of the position that you know

1077
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: you and the recruiter are talking about. You're gonna copy

1078
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: a big chunk of that shit. You're gonna put it

1079
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: in Google. And when you put it that, you know,

1080
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: the a chunk of that job description in Google, you're

1081
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: gonna see the listings come up for that job description

1082
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: on the job boards that it's advertised on, and the

1083
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: salary shit that might pop up for those you know

1084
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's when you know that, Okay,

1085
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: this recruiter is trying to hold down and hopes that

1086
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: I low ball myself. But if you know it comes

1087
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: up where you see these listings on all these job

1088
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: boards and it does say, you know, depending on experience,

1089
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: then okay, the recruiter was shooting straight with you, is

1090
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: depending on experience. So what you're gonna do then is

1091
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna do some more market research. You're gonna, you know, like,

1092
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: say you're you're interviewing for a software developer position, five

1093
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: to seven years of experience job a script pitheon, heavy,

1094
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: et cetera. You're gonna plug in that and you're gonna

1095
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: look at, you know, the the the job listens for

1096
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: that type of position of that skill set. You're gonna

1097
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: you know, see, okay, well the range here is one

1098
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: hundred twenty five one hundred fifty thousand for this type

1099
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: of skill set, and you're gonna come back to the

1100
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: recruiter with that, right, So you're gonna do some market

1101
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: research whenever a recruiter tells you that you know it's

1102
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: depending on experience, and get back to them. Don't ever

1103
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: say you're your your you know your price right there

1104
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: on the spot without doing that. So that's the advice

1105
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: that I would give to to, you know, people who

1106
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: are interviewing for that position, if you come across that

1107
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: position and recruit if you come across that you know,

1108
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: depending on experience, stipulation, and recruiters need to do fucking

1109
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: better because, like I said, these are real life pipy.

1110
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: You're dealing with recruiting.

1111
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: I view recruiting as you know, at its essence, you

1112
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: are helping people improve their lives.

1113
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. A new job is a

1114
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 3: leaping quality of life for most people.

1115
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: And if you don't take that seriously, go and you

1116
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: just want to swing the motherfuckers and save the company money,

1117
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of recruiting, bro, Go like sell

1118
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: some used cars or some shit. No shots, the used

1119
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: cars sell. But but this ain't for you, Like I said,

1120
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: this this is people's real ass lies, bro. And you're

1121
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: just out here fucking people over to get a pat

1122
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: on the back from your fucking manager, you boot looking motherfucker.

1123
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's all I have to say about it, man.

1124
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: And like I said, if you know what I'm saying,

1125
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: you know where to find me if you need. If

1126
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: anyone out there listen has any types of questions about

1127
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: negotiating or whatever, reach out to me.

1128
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: I love to seeing motherfuckers get paid.

1129
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: It's it different, dude, Yeah, boot looking is so fucking

1130
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: it's shut up there with mood cricket and.

1131
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: I love that great advice.

1132
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Though, yes, but yeah, but like I said, do your

1133
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: research and for you know what I'm saying back to

1134
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: the whole googling job description. Shit, There's there's two types

1135
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: of recruiting. Basically, there's you know, corporate recruiting. There's agency recruiting.

1136
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: You know, agency recruiting is you know, when you come

1137
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: on board with an agency, you know, you get contracted

1138
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: out to a company and you know, you get paid

1139
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: to the agency or whatever. Right, And the way agencies

1140
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: make money off that is they make money off what's

1141
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: called a split. There's a pay rate and a bill rate.

1142
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: The bill rate is what they build a company for

1143
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: that you'll be contracted out to. The pay rate is

1144
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: what they pay you.

1145
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1146
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: And so you know, say you come on board for

1147
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: a job and it's forty dollars an hour that you're

1148
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: getting paid the company that you're that you're you know,

1149
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: contracting for, they are billing the company you're working for

1150
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: like sixty an hour and they're making like twenty an

1151
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: hour off of you, right, So that's how agencies get

1152
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: paid here. So if you are, you know, applying for

1153
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: a position that is with an agency that you know,

1154
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: you know you're going to get an interview for, you're

1155
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: going to get a call back for, Like I said,

1156
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: google that job description first and do some shopping on

1157
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: the rates there for staffing agencies, because you might see

1158
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: one staffing agency that you're about to apply to might

1159
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: be like forty dollars an hour, but you might see

1160
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: another one advertise like fifty five an hour, you know

1161
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And you could have been leaving like

1162
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars an hour on the table by not doing

1163
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: your research. So that's another way thing I would just

1164
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: for sure recommend there. So just some free game, y'all. Man,

1165
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: I want to see I'll get paid, you know what

1166
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1167
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: So I know that in my personal life, had I

1168
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: become friends with Tyler a decade earlier, probably would have been,

1169
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: you know, some of the finances would have been on

1170
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: a different trajectory, bro. So I'm always happy to hear

1171
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: you pass that influm because like, for example, I mean

1172
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: I've had the you know, well, what do you think

1173
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: you should make I don't fucking know, you know what

1174
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Like absolutely no expense. It would never occur

1175
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: to me to say, why don't you tell me what

1176
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: you think?

1177
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: That's what you need to ask them, bro.

1178
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Everyone, Like I said, there's always a range for a position,

1179
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: even if it is legitimately depending on experience. Well, like

1180
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: I said, if its depending on experience, to your research.

1181
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: First before, what surprised me because so I grew up

1182
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: in a house it was really really bad with money,

1183
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: like my my, you know my we've talked about on

1184
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: the pot. My parents had addiction problems other things, but

1185
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: like my college fund got rated like when I was

1186
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: in elementary school, you know what I mean, before it

1187
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: really even existed. So I always felt like I don't

1188
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: know anything about money or the professional world, just because

1189
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: of the way that I grew up, you know, I

1190
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: wasn't like taught this stuff or whatever. But when you said, oh,

1191
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: by far people undersell themselves, it's like, oh, this is

1192
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: like a this is a problem of capitalism, and like

1193
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: the way everyone feels like, oh I should be grateful

1194
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: for you know, like this opportunity like whatever, whatever, whatever,

1195
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: And as you've said, it's like, but that's not a

1196
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: you feel it's it's actually it's kind of like sports.

1197
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: You feel like that's a personal like relationship between you

1198
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: and whoever is interviewing you, like, but it's to them,

1199
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 2: it's not. It's just it's straight up business. It's like,

1200
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: I have X amount for this job. This person told

1201
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: me this number. I'm saving X amount. Like it's just

1202
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: straight up numbers like that, you know what I mean.

1203
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: So great advice for anyone listening. I know that would

1204
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: have helped me a lot out quite a bit when

1205
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: I was younger, So I hope that helps everyone out too, John.

1206
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't worth shit back in the day.

1207
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: But what's the nigga got some sense, you know what

1208
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: I mean. You've actually helped me personally with a lot of.

1209
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: These space for sure. I'm like, hey, guess what, we

1210
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: have people who listen to the podcast who can also

1211
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: benefit from being friends with Tyler on the podcast. All right,

1212
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: that's all our time for Jenkins and Jones this week.

1213
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 2: We'll be back in the middle of the next week,

1214
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: right around the trade deadline actually, so we'll see if

1215
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: any of this crazy shit comes to pass. Thanks for

1216
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: working with us. Please keep leaving us the five star

1217
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: reviews and say nice things or whatnot that's appreciated, and

1218
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: we'll see how soon.

1219
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: Bye Bye, Believe Russell Westbrook alone