1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles ahead. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: He got Jack. This is the Big Red Race presented 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown. Slim to 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: flying into the backfeld. The rage is brought to you 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts, The Rods, Rising Guard, Temperatureizing Vision, Flurring, Rage 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, It's 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It doesn't 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: get any better than that horn. Unleash the fiar. You 13 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: know here in the off season, it's never a bad 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: time to look over the block wall into the backyard 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: of your neighbor. Ron Wolfley. And if you happen to 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: notice that Amazon has hired our competition here on Thursday night, 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: al Michaels and Kirk kerk Street. Okay, at about probably 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: million dollars per game. I mean, anyway, I bring that problems. 19 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: I just bring it up because you know, not only 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: is Amazon paying those guys, but they're also paying the 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: NFL one billion dollars per year over the next eleven 22 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: years for Thursday Night Football. And I you know, what 23 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: about the original Thursday Night Football? What about the Big 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert? Where's the 25 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: big bag for the Big Red Rage? You know, Polly, 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: why not just go with a decade, you know, and 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: even ten right there? Why was it the eleven bully? 28 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: Why did they need that one more year added on 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: right there? I don't know. It's a mystery to me. Yeah, 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: so there you go. That's us thought i'd bring that 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: up right off the top here, not to say there 32 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: isn't news. Okay, boy do we have We have news, 33 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: including today Kyler Murray he spoke, Yes, he did speak, 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals quarterback. I don't know if he's spoke in 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: all caps, but I do know Darren Urban was out 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: there to cover it. I don't know if he fouled 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: his story and all all caps on acy Cardinals dot com. 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: But Darren Urban will join us here during this edition 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage. What's one question, Ron Wolfley, 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: you'd like an answer too from Darren Urban, who witnessed 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: a couple of charity events. Kyler Murray out there presenting 42 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: speaking a big some big big checks to a couple 43 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: of great causes. Yeah, that's a great question right there. 44 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Just how much twelve personel are we gonna use? Paul? 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: You know that is where I'm gonna start. You know 46 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: this is where I'm I am so jacked up about 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: this very thing, right there, Paul, I'll start with twelve okay, 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: all right, Well we'll start with a different question. I guarantee, 49 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: okay when Darren Urban joins us momentarily other headlines this week, 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna set forth and then you choose 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: where you want to go. Nick Vigil signs to provide 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: depth in the inside lineback a room. Colt McCoy is 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: back on a two year deal. We'll hear from Colt 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: McCoy a little bit later. Zeke Turner, you're specialty four 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: time Special Team pro bowler. The Special Team's ace and 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: hard hitter is Zeke Turner. He is back. Aaron Brunner, 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer and Andy Lee speaking of special teams, right, 58 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: so continuity for Matt Prader. Those two guys are back, 59 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: the long snapper and punterer, respectively. And then of course 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the show, we're going to get 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: into what might be the craziest NFL season ever. The 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: offseason has just been off the hook. Let's start with 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: the phase of the game that matters the most, Paul, 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: that being, of course, transition, that being the special team. 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going to start with Zeke Turner. Yeah, baby, 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: here we will go. Can you say our five L five. 67 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: Zeke Turner loves to come down our four L four, Paul, 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: R five L five of course, coming down the railroad 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: track X on kickoff cover right there, that's where Zeke 70 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Turner lives. He also lives R four L four, which 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: is the next guy outside of that, in between the 72 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: numbers running down the field. Anytime, Polly, I don't know 73 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: if you know this, Polly, but anytime you cover a 74 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: kick the middle of the field, in between the numbers, 75 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: somebody could get hurt, Paul, And I mean somebody could 76 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: go down, if you know what I mean. Finally, we 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: have something in common because as someone who covered many 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: a kick at Leland High School, Okay down, I went 79 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: many times on kickcover. Believe me. I went down with effort, 80 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: but I went down. Yes, you know, Polly also too, 81 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: just talking about some of the topics you brought up momentarily, 82 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, I have to tell you right now that 83 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: really gets me jacked up. Colt McCoy, he was here, 84 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: correct may if I'm wrong, Polly, but he was here 85 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: on a one year contract. Of course. Last year I 86 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: would say that he had a really big impact on 87 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Of course, in mentoring Kyler Murray, I think 88 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: it's so important you've got those models. You've got guys 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: like a Colt McCoy that can walk around that locker room, 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: who's got the respect of so many of his teammates, 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: a guy that went out on the field, got three starts, 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: of course, and earned the reputation and went out in 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: one two of those three games, and suddenly you could 94 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: just see the impact he had on this team last year, Paul. 95 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that he's coming back for two more years. 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: This is big time. And it's not like he went 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: out there in those two wins and just managed the game. No, 98 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: won the game. He had a passer rating a one 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: twenty in a game he had a passer rating to 100 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: one thirteen in the other game, and they ran a 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: very dynamic, drecy, more balanced and different offense than I 102 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: know you enjoyed watching. Yeah, and you know what, PAULI too. 103 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: Everyone says, oh, yeah, but the Carolina game, you know 104 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the care Oh my goodness, nobody played in that game, Paul, 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Nobody did it. It was awful that that third game. 106 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Of course, man, it just everybody struggled in that game. 107 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking all three phases ball. There were two games. 108 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: There were two games where it really wasn't an l 109 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: as much as it was a DOA, and that was 110 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Carolina in Detroit where they just they had no pulse. 111 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: They just came out and there wasn't anything any quarterback 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: virtually could have done in that situation. So you know, now, 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: as for as for Nick Vigil, for example, Okay, there's 114 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: the second guy they signed from outside the team, and 115 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: he'll come in and yes, he's the guy who had 116 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: the pick six against Kyler for the Vikings in Week two. 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: But if he hit zoom out here wolf, you know, 118 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: you've seen it all the snarky tweets from some of 119 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: the Cardinals fans. If you comment on anything, you'll get 120 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: a tweet with a meme of the tumble weeds right 121 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: or the crickets chirping and and and look after the 122 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: last two off seasons, we get it. I mean there 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: were splash moves al grande. When you trade or d 124 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: hop and you sign a J. J. Watt, It just 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: it seems like everyone is waiting for Steve Kim to 126 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: yelle cannonball and come off the high dive like Ron Burgundy, 127 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: right and make the big splash in the deep end. 128 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: And based on what we've seen so far and where 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: this is tracking, guess what, I don't think it's coming. Yeah, Paul, 130 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, once again, Steve Kim for the most part, 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: has made his big splash. And I think you'd agree 132 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: with me on this. In the trade market, that's where 133 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: he has done really, really well, where he has made 134 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: some incredible trades. And just look at some of the 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: trades throughout the franchise. One of the best trades in 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: history DeAndre Hopkins just start right there, and Rodney Hudson 137 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: that that one isn't far behind right there either. That's huge. 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: Steve Kim has always done well in terms of the 139 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: trade market, go all the way back to Carson bomber Ball. 140 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean that one that was pretty good, right there, 141 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: wasn't it. I mean, when this offseason started, you were 142 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: so right. I made the joke half jokingly saying, you 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: know what, they should turn him into a used car dealer. 144 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: You know those old commercials used to see the dealing ist, 145 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, just unleashed Steve Khim. Let him go to work. 146 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: Just let him go out there and see what sort 147 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: of trades he can broker. Because you're right, that has 148 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: been his area of expertise and most success as a GM. 149 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: So I'd never say that Steve Khim was all about 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: the big free agent splash, right, the big free agent signing. 151 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, you know. At the same time, 152 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: I would say Steve Kim has built his reputation as 153 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: a kind time sign that right there, where suddenly you 154 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: get a guy, as they did James Conner a year ago. 155 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: James Connor signed him late in the free agent period 156 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: to a one year contract. I considered that to be 157 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: a kind time sign. He signed guys even later than 158 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: that going into training camp as well. So that's where 159 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: I think he really specializes, not in the big splash 160 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: free agent market. That's not him. And remember, not every 161 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: first way free agent is well bought. Historically, many of 162 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: these big money contracts are going to be utter flops. 163 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: And dare I say Jordan Phillips was one of them. 164 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: You know, he got paid eighteen point five million guarantees 165 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: for seventeen starts over two years. Think about that, Think 166 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: about what that does to the calf and it's just 167 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: the dead money left behind over nine million dollars. So 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, proceed with caution in a lot of these contracts. No, 169 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: you're right about that, Paulie. That was very, very disappointing. 170 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: And going back and looking at Jordan Phillips and the 171 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: last year he played with the Buffalo Bills and what 172 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: he was able to accomplish for them. Man, it's hard 173 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: to imagine that he came here and played in on 174 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: seventeen games. You said, Paul, seventeen starts, oh my, eighteen 175 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: point five million guarantees, And you're right, he wasn't nearly 176 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: the same player he was in Buffalo. And that is 177 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: always it with free agency, Paul. That has always been 178 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: the huge concern, not only with owners but also with 179 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: general managers and coaches as well. The fact you would 180 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: go out and sign a guy to big money. You'll 181 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: always have to ask the question, what is that big 182 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: money gonna do to the man? What is that big 183 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: money going to do to the player? Here's the other question. Yeah, 184 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: and look, this leads us into our next topic, which 185 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray, who spoke today two different charity events. 186 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Darren Irbo was there. He'll join us next. But good 187 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: part of the reason that there hasn't been the big 188 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: expenditure yet on a big name free agent is because 189 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: guess what, they got to pay the quarterback and that 190 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: deal is coming and because of that they have to 191 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: allocate space under the cap accordingly. That is the question 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: hanging out there. It's a question we'll pose to Darren Urban. 193 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: We'll get the latest on what Kyler Murray had to 194 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: say today. He joined the Airs on a Cardinal season 195 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: ticket priority list adasy Cardinals dot com slash priority lists. 196 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Have you seen the Cardinals home schedule? It is loaded, 197 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Darren Urban. Next on the Big Red Rage presented by 198 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert got to throw Murray in trouble, 199 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: spins out of there to his left, being chased by 200 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: two vikings and launches a deep, wide open near side 201 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: of the forties Mondel mr Cock at the thirty half 202 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: the twenty at the fifteen ten five cupdown, Kyler Murray, 203 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: you are ridiculous. Murray matchick seventy seven yard tops down 204 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: past ninety nine point nine percent of the quarterbacks on 205 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: the planet gets sacked. But not only does Kyra Murray 206 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: not get sacked, he throws a touchdown. Nasty us Nasty 207 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: does and we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty. 208 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: The stuff you see in dreams and in video games, 209 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: but not in the NFL. WHOA. It was about five 210 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: ws at the end of that while Ron Wolfley there, 211 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: Dave pash Ron Wolfley here, I'm the big red Rage 212 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Pennsilanac soon'll be 213 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: joined by Darren Urban. That was a Minnesota Vikings game. 214 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Wolf And that was the seventy seven yard catch and 215 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: run by Rondelle Moore after the scramble drill there by 216 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He went twenty nine to thirty six for 217 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: four hundred yards, passing that game three touchdowns at a 218 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: passer radia nearly one eighteen and the key play. I'm 219 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: looking at my notes from that game. If you remember, 220 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: it was fourth and five at the Minnesota forty one. 221 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: You're down thirty three thirty one, and Kyler against the 222 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: zero blitz office back foot, he throws the thirty five 223 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: yard to Christian Kirk across the middle. That's set up 224 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the game winning field goal. Yeah, that was huge. And 225 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: you know what, Paul, I think back to the first 226 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: seven in eight games of the season. I really do. 227 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: I think back to it, Paul, and that's when this 228 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: offense was humming. That's when this offense was downright lethal. 229 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: I think of the first five games where Max Williams 230 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: went out there and got the start, and Max Williams 231 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: brought so much balance and the way Kyler Murray. Do 232 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: you remember in the first half of the season, the 233 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: way he was spreading the ball all over the field 234 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: and everybody was getting their touches in. How balanced the 235 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals were in terms of running the ball. Remember 236 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: they were top three in run rate, PAULI for the 237 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: first what twelve weeks of the season. Yep, yep. And 238 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: you're right. There were the games where he's in seven, eight, 239 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: nine different receivers in a game. And yet the last 240 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: impression we had was arguably the worst game of his 241 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: NFL career playoff game. Yeah, and that led into the 242 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: offseason and things have gotten sideways obviously in the off season. 243 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: As Kyler half joke today, every time I got on Twitter, quote, 244 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: I was trending, let's hear from Kyler. Okay, let's hear 245 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: from Kyler. Here's what he had to say. He was 246 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: out there, and of course he was asked about his 247 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: future and the pending contract question. Kyler Murray today, I'm 248 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: my Arizona Cardinal. You know I've done nothing, but you know, 249 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: give him all to the Cardinals. I wouldn't continue to 250 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, So I'm not really too worried about 251 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: my future as a cardinal. I key football football. I 252 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: let people whoever have to take care of that stuff 253 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: to take care of that stuff. I'll I worried about 254 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: was playing good all food. There you go, Kyler Murray 255 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: a couple of different answers to a couple of different questions. 256 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: The first time he has met the media since well 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: since the agent issued the All Cats manifesto, right, and 258 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: he had the scrubbing to the Instagram account, and so 259 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: what'd you make of just his approach today Wolf and 260 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: the demeanor he was from the from the video. He's 261 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: all smiles, he was interacting, he threw some passes to 262 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the kids and the Boys and Girls club, he did 263 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: trivia with some of the teachers out of Desert Financial. 264 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: Just you're taking you know what first of all, Paul 265 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: eight after way to go Kyler, I mean, well done 266 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray for doing what he is doing and offering 267 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: up that kind of money. Of course, right it's for 268 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: one check because so once again ye foundation, Yep, that's 269 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: exactly right, Polly, Well done Kyler Murray. That's number one 270 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: right there. Um. I listened to Kyler Murray, especially the 271 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: first cut that you played right there. That to me 272 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: is I'm going to put that into the positive column. Paul. 273 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: He sounded, he sounded hopeful that things were going well 274 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: and that he was happy to be an Arizona Cardinal 275 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: and that maybe this is me reading into it, but 276 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: maybe Paul, they're getting things ironed out with the Cardinals. 277 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Maybe the Cardinals and Kyler Murray are getting things ironed 278 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: out on this possible extension or non extension or when 279 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: this extension might actually happen. But I put that squarely 280 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: in the positive column. Yeah. I mean, if you told 281 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: me that this essentially boils down to Kyler playing the 282 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: good cop and his agent playing the bad cop, I'd 283 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: believe you. It's been done before many a time. Right. 284 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: That's why you have an agent to be the bad guy, 285 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: to be the buffer between you and the team. There's 286 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: no doubt that there's business going on behind the scenes. 287 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: There's the want by team Kyler for a new contract. 288 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: And if you believe, for example, they album Breer blurb 289 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: in Monday Afternoon Quarterback this week in Sports Illustrated where 290 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: he said that team Kyler wants a new contract by 291 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: the draft. That was Albert Brier. Now we presume he's 292 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: talking directly to the agent. Okay, there are wants, and 293 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: then there's precedent. As we know, all six other big 294 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: contracts that have been awarded to a quarterback after year 295 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: three have all been done in June, July, August, or September. 296 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: So was the team figuring on that sort of timetable 297 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: if at all, after his third year. I mean, these 298 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: are all big questions that are looming over this whole process. Yeah. 299 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: The only other thing, Paul, that I would say right here, 300 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: you're correct and everything you said. But for the most part, 301 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the good cop bad cop thing you have to remember 302 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: you tell your agent what to do. You tell your 303 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: agent what to do. Every professional athlete has got to 304 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: do that. Now, listen, Do you listen to your agent, 305 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Do you take his counsel? 306 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: Do you take his advice? Yes, but your agent listens 307 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: to you. You tell your agent what to do. And 308 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: that is the only thing that I would advise Kyler 309 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Murray in this regard is that they really are one 310 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: and the same. Even though you might have good cop 311 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: bad cop, you tell your agent what to do because 312 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: he works for you. And right now we listen to 313 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: Darren Urban who joins us on the Big Red Rage 314 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Darren spent the afternoon 315 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. So just give us a quick summary, 316 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: maybe some of your initial takeaways. D Well, I mean, 317 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: you guys hit a lot of what I was thinking. 318 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the questions were inevitable today given the fact 319 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: that he hadn't been in front of any media basically 320 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: since the post game of the Rams game, the Rams 321 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: playoff game, and obviously all this stuff has happened since then, 322 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: so it was going to come up, even if I 323 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: think I think the hope was of the of the 324 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: event coordinators that it wasn't going to come up and 325 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: that was just going to be about the community aspect 326 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: of it, but that it was just natural that it 327 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: was going to be talked about. And I thought Kyler 328 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: handled it really well. I mean, there's only so many 329 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: things you can say. Obviously he could have said some 330 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: things that caused a lot of news. I don't think 331 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: he really did. Other than the fact that he talked, 332 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to say much other than what 333 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: he did say. But I thought he handled himself well. 334 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: And I think at this point it feels like things 335 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: have calmed down quite a bit from where they were. 336 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: And you know what that means exactly. We will have 337 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: to see. Um. You know, it's easy to say a 338 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: couple of things today. Well, we'll find out what happens 339 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: when the team gets together on a voluntary basis and 340 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: what happens and go from there. Yeah. You know, for me, 341 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: derb I was looking at it and thinking, man, the 342 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: question he didn't have to take questions right? Well, he 343 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: couldn't He have just said I'm not going to I'm 344 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: not gonna talk about my contract situation whatsoever. Don't Yeah, 345 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean he could have said, yeah, I'm not talking 346 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: about that right now, and uh, and that would have 347 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: been his right to do, right. I think if he 348 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: does that, you know, he probably knows. I mean, let's 349 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: let's not get it twisted. Uh. You know, the Cardinals 350 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: themselves and the media relations staff weren't involved in this. 351 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: This was a Kyler thing because it's with him and 352 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: his sponsors. But I would be stunned if Kyler didn't 353 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: have a conversation with his agent saying Okay, I'm gonna 354 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: go do this, and they talked about how he was 355 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: going to address stuff because he had no it was coming. 356 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I yeah, he could have said I'm 357 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: not really talking about any of this, but that also 358 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: brings up you know, if you if you decide not 359 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: to talk about stuff, that also brings with its speculation, 360 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: So you know, maybe that's maybe that's why they did 361 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: what they did exactly. It's sort of like the Instagram thing, right, 362 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the absence of information, you get speculation, and 363 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: that's what happened. So I know we have joke today 364 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: that he said, and I'm loosely quoting, you know, every 365 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: time I got on Twitter, I was trending for like 366 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: a five week you know sequence there. But he did 367 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: nothing to extinguish that either, did he. Yeah. I mean 368 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: I think that's true to a certain extent. I mean, 369 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: even if he had, I mean, he could have extinguished 370 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: the Instagram stuff. But as soon as the statement came 371 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: out from his agent about wanting a contract, he was 372 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: going to be trending. Because that's where we are. And 373 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, that's what the national media especially is doing 374 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: these days, is as they talk about all this stuff. 375 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: And I honestly, I think it actually gained a little 376 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: bit of steam. Given all the other quarterback movement we've 377 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: had in the NFL, I made it a lot easier 378 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: to say, you know, in years past, the talk about 379 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: Kyler being traded would be dumb. I mean, it just 380 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: would be dumb. I would have been dumb for a 381 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of these guys. But now that we're actually seeing 382 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: some of this stuff happen, it's not so far fetched anymore, 383 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, that being said, Kyler's not going anywhere, But 384 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: it brought a little bit of credibility to Willing to 385 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time on whatever platform you 386 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: might have. You know, for me, Derb I was looking 387 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: at it just the fact he was answering questions in 388 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: regard to the contract situation, answering questions in regard to 389 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: being an Arizona cardinal. I have to tell you, I 390 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: mean I saw that as a positive. I did I 391 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: move that into the positive column, as I like to say, 392 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: just the fact that he was willing to address us 393 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: that your thoughts on that, um, I would say it's 394 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: better than the alternative, as you like to say. I mean, 395 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: I do think it's better than the alternative. I don't 396 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's he said what I would expect him 397 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: to say in such a situation. You're right, he could 398 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: have said nothing if he was really upset about stuff. 399 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: But you know the other part of that is you're 400 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: at an event where you're trying to give away money 401 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: and have it be a happy event. If you're Kyler 402 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: Murray or Kyler Murray's people, you also don't want to 403 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: turn something like that into ah, you know, Kyler's angry 404 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: at the team situation where it really wasn't you You 405 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: were able to keep keep the focus on giving away 406 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to the Arizona Educational Foundation and the 407 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: Boys and goals called to the valley each and and 408 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that's also a good reason to want to 409 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: like answer some questions and kind of keep things low key. Yeah, 410 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: which is why though, d I just want to jump 411 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: in here and say, it's why I saw it as 412 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: a positive that he was even doing it, because once again, 413 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: I think it would be so easy for Kyler Murray 414 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: just to say, hey, guys, I'm not here to talk 415 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: about that. I'm not here today to talk about Well, 416 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: they they try to do that. You know, it's just 417 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: when you're in front of the media, you know, it's 418 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: and you haven't had a chance to talk to the athlete. 419 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's one thing to ask them not 420 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: to ask any football questions, which was done by the 421 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: PR people around the event, and obviously he was still 422 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: willing to talk about it, which I thought was a 423 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: good thing. Well, here's okay, last last question you can 424 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: all answer, including myself, and then we'll move on. When 425 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: Kyler says, I'm not really too worried about my future 426 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: as a cardinal, quote unquote, are you worried? I'm not 427 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: I think this is part of the process. There might 428 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: be a little more drama than everyone expected. I don't 429 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: think there's any question he's part of the Cardinal's future. 430 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, Yeah, you know what, Paul, Honestly, right now, 431 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: I do. I think he's going to get an extension 432 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: at some point in time. I think the Arizona Cardinals 433 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: are going to do that. I would want to see 434 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: one more year, but sometimes you know what, just because 435 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: you wish it, you don't always get what you want, 436 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: isn't that right? Ball? Yeah, what do you want to 437 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: see next for the Cardinals? In free agency? Darren Irban? 438 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: There's our segue? Where would you start? You know? And 439 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: you and up, Paul, You and I have talked about 440 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: this a lot. I mean, I think at this point 441 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: it's clear that they're going to be smart about any 442 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of signings, you know, kind of one year deal 443 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: type of things, because they either didn't get the people 444 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: they wanted or they just don't see the need to 445 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: spend the money on the people that were available. But 446 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: you know, I still am concerned about pass Rusher. That 447 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: is a position that to me is the number one 448 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: thing that catches my attention. Obviously, a number two wide 449 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: receiver and even cornerback are things that would behind the list, 450 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: But pass rusher is the one position that I'm really like, Okay, 451 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: where does this team go without? Right now? All right, derb, 452 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: I have to ask you this right now. When I 453 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: say zach Ertz, when I say James Connor, when I 454 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: say Max Williams, when I say, um, let's see justin pew, 455 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: what do you think of I think of guys that 456 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: are all going to be on the team next year, 457 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: and they better play well because that's who the crux 458 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: your offense is going to be. It's a bit of 459 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: a trick question. Here we go, Here we go. I 460 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: got sucked in by this last week. I'm just saying, 461 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: right now, you let Christian Kirk go. And of course, 462 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was surprised once you saw the 463 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: contract that Christian Kirk gotten by the way, way to go, 464 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: see Kirk, Way to go, baby, I don't think anyone 465 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: was surprised the Arizona Cardinals could not pay him that. 466 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: But I see a paradigm shift from three wide receivers 467 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: to two tight ends in rundown situation when you've got 468 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: zach Ertz and Max Williams and James Connor as you're 469 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: running back and you signed Justin Pew of course a 470 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: very underrated year. As a matter of fact, I would 471 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: say last year to me was Justin Pew's best year 472 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: as an Arizona cardinal. Yes, I will say this a 473 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: couple of different things. One, I don't think you need 474 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: to I don't think anybody should get ahead of themselves 475 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: on Max Williams. I want the man blew out his knee. 476 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I have. I love Max Williams. I hope he comes back. 477 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: I need to see him out and doing stuff before 478 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well they're going to base an offense around 479 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: having him out there on the field. That's number one 480 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: and then number two. I don't know if it's going 481 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: to be a paradigm shift as much to me. You know, 482 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: one of the years at Texas Tech, Cliff Kingsbury had 483 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: a tight end and his name escapes me right now. 484 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Who is one of his top receivers, And that's because 485 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: that's who he had ad And I don't think anybody's 486 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: going to confuse zach Ertz with some big inline tight end. 487 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: He in a lot of ways is just a bigger 488 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: kind of wide receiver in a lot of way. And 489 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: if you're not getting a number two wide receiver, maybe 490 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: it's just the fact that zach Ertz is that pass 491 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: catcher that you're looking to have in there. Now. Obviously 492 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: you're not gonna split him wide all the time. But 493 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: I just don't see this gigantic shift of changing. Oh boy, 494 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: I hope you're wrong. I know, I hope you're wrong 495 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: right there. So you still see them going with eleven 496 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: personnel three wide receivers as their primary personnel group? Is 497 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: that what I do? And I think they might, you know, again, 498 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: use earths out there. I could they use a little 499 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: bit more twelve for sure, But I still think in 500 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: the end Close Kingsbury is who he is. Well, I mean, 501 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: you talk about running this team back in this roster back, 502 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: and we did on Cardinal's Underground this week, Darren, but 503 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: aj Green might be back. Reportedly Robert Alford visited the 504 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals today even though he's been a Cardinal the last 505 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: two or three years, right, So, I mean these are 506 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: names that might be back in the fold. I don't 507 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: know what you guys make in terms of a need 508 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: at the cornerback position now, especially after the Jeff Gladney signing. 509 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Darren, give us your thoughts. There is that 510 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: a want or a need at this point in the 511 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: secondary well, I mean, I think they're going to need 512 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: another cornerback. You know, now, is Robert Alford willing to 513 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: come in and you know, play for a very cheap 514 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: contract and fight and potentially end up being fourth on 515 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: the depth chart if that's what they decide. I'm sure 516 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Robert Alford feels like he's going to be higher than that. 517 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, if you're going to bring 518 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: in guys on cheaper contracts, it's not the worst thing 519 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: in the world to bring in somebody that already knows 520 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: your system, whether it's Robert Alford on defense or Aj 521 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: Green on offense. I mean, I'm a little surprised Green 522 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: is still in the picture. I thought they would move 523 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: on from him. But if he does end up coming back, 524 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, maybe that just says what they had out 525 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: there and who they were willing to go after and 526 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: what they're measuring. I mean, they're not doing this in 527 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: a vacuum. You know, they're obviously comparing that possibility to 528 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: another other possibilities they have, and they are determining if 529 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: they go on that route, that the bringing those guys 530 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: back makes more sense than bringing in somebody new. DIRB 531 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: Once again, how much do you think the fact that 532 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Kyler Marie and his agent want this extension this offseason, 533 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: how much of that do you think has inhibited them 534 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: in terms of this free agent period out there right now? Well, 535 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't think that inhibits inhibits them at all. 536 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, whether the Kyler and his desire for a 537 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: new contract, I don't. I don't understand why that would 538 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: have any kind of impact on going out and getting 539 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: free agents. It shouldn't. You know, you've got a cap 540 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: number with Kyla right now that you can work with, 541 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: and then you've got a cap number. I mean, Patrick 542 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes ended up having a lower cap number than Kyler 543 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Murray last year. So if you sign it Kyler Murray 544 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: to a new deal, you could probably work it where 545 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: his cap number is not going to grow this year. 546 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: In fact, that would be a big reason to do 547 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: an extensions. You might be able to keep it low 548 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: or even make it lower for next year when it's 549 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be almost thirty million dollars. So that shouldn't 550 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: be an inhibited factor at all in my and I 551 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: guess you know, we kicked it around earlier, and actually 552 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: I was the one who brought it up. In sure, 553 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: you can do you know the kaponomics, and Deshaun Watson 554 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: can get two hundred and thirty million guaranteed over what 555 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: four years in his base salary can be one million 556 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: this year. I get it. But if you're going after 557 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 1: a big name free agent and there's competition, he's going 558 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: to need a big, long term contract, and all of 559 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: a sudden a contract extension to Kyler would inhibit you 560 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: in year two, three, or four, perhaps that might have 561 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: been a barrier to getting deals done with some of 562 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: these bigger names. Perhaps I'm not exactly sure. But Darren, 563 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: if we go to acyclonels dot com and we read 564 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: your story about Kyler Murray hasn't been filed in all caps, 565 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: that's my question. Not all cap, just regular story. Okay, 566 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: thank you man, Thanks Darren. There you go. Hey, we're 567 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna come back, and I got a few things to 568 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: foister on Wellefully we'll get into someone what's gone on 569 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: around the league, and then Cole McCoy, you want to 570 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: talk about quarterback, how about the backup in his importance 571 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: here in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan ford 572 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: In Gilbert snapped the McCoy straight dropback, looking left all 573 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: the way and that dumps it off from the cross 574 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the Connor out of the fifteen Rex 575 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: at tackle twenty twenty five get the first down. Boy 576 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: Paul McCoy looked left the entire time and at the 577 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: last second shifted his eyes to the right, Connor to 578 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: the ten, to the five and end of the ends 579 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: off of the touchdown. Cole McCool, the cool veteran, went ahead, 580 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: bought himself a little bit of time that split seconds. 581 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: McCoy takes the snap, uff baked to the right, throws 582 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: over the middle. It's caught inside the ten yard line 583 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: by ergs down at a five, perfectly executed, great read 584 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: by Colt McCoy. Gorgeous tossed by Colt McCoy. Oh, that 585 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: is a greasy throw by Colt McCoy. Right there, spin 586 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: that pig. Colt shotguns snapped to McCoy, balls loose on 587 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: the ground, He picks it up, throws over the middle. Hey, 588 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: it's caught for a touchdown. By arts up on Colt 589 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: McCoy picking up a loose ball on the turf and 590 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: throwing a pass over the middle for a big touchdown. 591 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: Here about that A twenty twenty one montage of Colt 592 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: McCoy courtesy of our Jim Almahundro. You had a Week 593 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: nine win at the forty nine Ers, where the Cardinals 594 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: had four hundred and thirty seven total yards behind Colt McCoy, 595 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback who went twenty two or twenty six for 596 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: two forty nine a passerating and one nineteen. You also, 597 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: as a team, Ron Wolf ran thirty nine times for 598 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: a buck sixty three at the forty nine ers, a 599 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Niners defense that was an NFC Championship game, by the way, right. 600 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: And then in Week eleven at the Seahawks, a twenty 601 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: three thirteen win there, Cole McCoy got the start thirty 602 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: five or forty four, three twenty eight no picks, one 603 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: thirteen passer rating, and you're talking touchdown drives of sixteen, 604 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: thirteen and ten plays a piece, and I think this 605 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: is where you're driving. Did the Cardinals see something, especially 606 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: in those two wins that said, you know what, that's 607 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: when this offense was at its best. Yeah, Paulay, honestly, yeah, 608 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I do believe that the Arizona Cardinals wanted to be 609 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: a more physical team going into last year. They wanted 610 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: to be more physical, and they wanted better leadership in 611 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: the locker room at least, that's the two things at 612 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: Steve Kin pointed to and said, that's what he was 613 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: trying to do last offseason was actually build that kind 614 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: of team. So going into the twenty twenty one season, 615 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: of course they could be more physical. And Paul, I 616 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: think when you go back and you look at the 617 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: tape and again you look at James Conner in particular, 618 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: and how he was running the ball in between the tackles, 619 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: whether it was that a shotgun or they were putting 620 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in the first half of the season, they 621 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: were putting him under center more than they did in 622 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, and running the football 623 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: in a more north south direction. That's when this offense 624 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: was at its best. With Max Williams as the stud 625 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: tight end. Once again, I understand he's coming off an ACL, 626 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: but Paul, you know it as well as I do. 627 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: The ACL is not the death sentence metaphorically speaking, that 628 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: it used to be for NFL players in the past. 629 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: It just isn't. It's something now. The surgery and the 630 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: treatment and the rehabilitation is so good that you can 631 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: come back off an ACL and be the same guy. 632 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: And that's what I expect with Max Williams, and it's 633 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: why they signed him as early as they did in 634 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: free agency in my opinion. And when I say the 635 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: offense was at its best, I'm not talking about Colt McCoy. 636 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're a better team with Colt McCoy quarterback. 637 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: To your point there, and thanks for saving me for 638 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: maybe being a little confusing. I'm talking about just the 639 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: balance and the power aspect of the offense during those 640 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: two wins. You know, we all know that the future 641 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: of football is the future at quarterback Kyler Murray as 642 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: we like to call him, and Colt McCoy. After signing 643 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: the two year deal and meeting the media this week, 644 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: he was asked yes about Kyler Murray heading into his 645 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: fourth year. Kyler's obviously extremely talented, just finished his third 646 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 1: year in the NFL. I would say that his arrow 647 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: is pointing up. I know how hard it was for 648 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: me my first three years in the NFL to handle 649 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: all the things that come with being a franchise quarterback 650 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: and being in the NFL. And I think Kyler's handled 651 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: it tremendously. You know, he's a super competitor, he wants 652 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: to win, he works hard, and I think it's kind 653 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: of sets the tone for our whole team. Yeah. So, yeah, 654 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: thirty five year old Colt McCoy. You know, with the 655 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Texas roots, right, Colt McCoy is going to be going 656 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: into the Texas High School Hall of Fame by the way, 657 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: and joining the likes of his head coach, Cliff Kingsbury. 658 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: He's already a member of the Texas High School Hall 659 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: of Fame, and then of course Kyler Murray at some 660 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: point we'll also be a member there as well. So 661 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: you just have that chemistry between those two guys. And 662 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: I know Kyler gets a lot of heat for when 663 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: the cameras catch him and he might be miffed on 664 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: the sidelines, but there's also a lot that the camera's 665 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: missed when he's interacting with Colt McCoy on the bench 666 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, no, PAULI sorry for cutting you off 667 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: their ball. I just wanted to jump in because I 668 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: thought what you were saying right there. It's so true, 669 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: it really is. Listen, the thing I love most about 670 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: the Colton McCoy signing right now is Paul. If in 671 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: fact Colt McCoy did not have a great relationship with 672 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Colt McCoy thought he wasn't doing anything to 673 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 1: help Kyler Murray. If in fact that was the case, 674 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: Colton McCoy would not sign a two year contract with 675 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. This is the thing that fills me 676 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: with hope. Colt McCoy looking at it and saying, Man, 677 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: I want to come back and I want to be 678 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: this guy that is going to mentor Kyler Murray and 679 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: be put in this role as the backup quarterback. That 680 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: to me said so much when Zach Ertz and Colt 681 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: McCoy came back and wanted to play here. And what 682 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: was interesting too was how many times Colt McCoy on 683 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: his own said that he sees the game and he 684 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: sees offense the same way as the head coach. Yeah, 685 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Wolf you know, Carson Palmer and Kurt 686 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Warner were de facto offensive coordinators, especially towards the end 687 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: of their career. They would not formulate a game plan 688 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: until Carson Palmer had broken down the opponent on a Monday, 689 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: until Kurt Warner had come in on a Monday or 690 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning and give his thoughts and notes on the 691 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: defense they were going to see. Was only when they 692 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: got the input from those guys. And think of how 693 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: many defenses that Colt McCoy has seen, how many defensive 694 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: coordinators he's gone against in his years, right, no doubt, Polly, 695 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: it's an excellent point by you. So it's it's just 696 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: a valuable resource to have in that capacity. All right. 697 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, we've had certified insanity around the NFL quarterbacks, 698 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: receivers and more. Let's visit some of those NFL headlines 699 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: and maybe how they impact the airs on our Cardinals 700 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: here in the off season. As we continue with a 701 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: big red rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert and 702 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: Off William coming around the left side, He's gonna be 703 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: hit behind Off and I'm be covering that hit the 704 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: putty putty, But funny but he cover a touchdown. No, 705 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm a player Hurtinals, I'm got am a bumble by 706 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: hurry one of them up nineteen sixty eight nine out 707 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals Archives, the late great Larry Wilson the 708 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer an eighty eight yard fumble return at 709 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: Green Bay on this day in nineteen thirty eight. Larry 710 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: Wilson was born in Rigby, Idaho, would have turned eighty 711 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: four today. And Wolf, you knew him very well. Yes, 712 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: I mean pound for pound safe to say, one of 713 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: the toughest players in NFL history. Yeah, you could definitely 714 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: say that, Polly, I would say the toughest guy that 715 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: I've ever been around Larry Wilson. When you go back 716 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: and look at some of the footage on Larry Wilson 717 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: and you watch him playing out in the field with 718 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: two broken hands, Paul actually intercepted a pass with two 719 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: broken hands. Stop and think about that. Larry Wilson and 720 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: how he played the game. He was one of the 721 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: guys that actually created the Bobcat Paul. That's a free 722 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: safety blitz where a free safety, a guy who usually 723 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: is playing in the middle of the field or maybe 724 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: playing too deep. Of course, a free safety would actually 725 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: creep down late and shoot one of the a gaps 726 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: between the garden center. It was called the Bobcat it 727 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: was called a free safety blitz whatever it was. Larry 728 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: Wilson was the guy who pioneered that, Paul. That's why 729 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: when we joke when Buddha Baker had his first career interception, 730 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: I think was at Dallas right two years ago and 731 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: he had a cast on his hand and he had 732 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: his first career interception. That's nothing, Buddha. Larry Wilson, he 733 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: interception with with two casts? Are you kidding me? That's 734 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: not impressive. By the way, speaking of all timers, how 735 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: about John o'mahondro going into the initial class of athletic 736 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: trainers right at the Hall of Fame. He's going to 737 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: be honored. How about that? The initial class A guy 738 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: who spent a Cardinals trainers, spent forty two seasons at 739 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: the helm of that department for the years on a 740 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: Cardinal So that's well back in the days. His first 741 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,479 Speaker 1: training camp is a great story from Darren erbanan easy 742 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com. His first training camp. There are one 743 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: hundred forty players and can think about that? Think about 744 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: I do like to tell you everybody else out there, Polly, 745 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: those spats man, that was you know Johnny o. You 746 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: know Johnny O. The love that I have, the affection 747 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: that I have for this guy. He was the trainer, 748 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: of course when I was with the Arizona Cardinals, a 749 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals as well, and he basically, I know 750 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: he's not really gonna be happy with me for saying this, 751 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: but he's basically like my mom my football mom, because 752 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: he how many times you'd be out in the field 753 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: right there and he was the first face you would 754 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: see when you were done on the ground. It was 755 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: Johnny O. And there he was, and it was like 756 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: your mom. And he'd looking and say, hey, listen, you're 757 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, You're gonna be all right. Everything's gonna 758 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: be fine, right, Jim Machine Sheer. Of course he'd look 759 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: and say, man, what a richard you are? You sure 760 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: you weren't asking for your mommy at that point after 761 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: you got Jack stop by Lawrence Taylor. That's what I 762 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: want to know. By the way NFL headlines, let's go 763 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: through him real quick, okay. Seattle trades Russell Wilson to 764 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: the Broncos, Deshaun Watson is in Cleveland, Matt Ryan to 765 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: the Colts, Carson Wentz with the Commanders now that's just 766 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Then you have the guys to get after 767 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,479 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Khalil Mack. And then it was Chandler Jones 768 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: to the Raiders, obviously, Zadarius Smith, even Yanike and Gockway 769 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: going to the Colts over there. And then the receivers, 770 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, first off, Christian Kirk resetting the market. You 771 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: can blame Christian Kirk and the Jacksonville Jaguars because then 772 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams said, you know what, I need a brand 773 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: new deal for NFL record receiver money. He got it 774 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: in the trade to the Raiders. And then this week 775 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill traded from Casey to Miami. He is now 776 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: the highest paid player ever at his position. Well, Polly, 777 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean the Russell Wilson thing is absolutely huge, 778 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: but I have to tell you it's Tyreek Hill. It 779 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,959 Speaker 1: is Tyreek Hill. Did you think that we're gonna trade Tyan? 780 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: Did you hear anything about Tyreek Hill being out of 781 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City? Paul and point in time, let me let 782 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: me throw some night. Somebody tweeted this out name the 783 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: last time Andy Reid lost a trade, and then he 784 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: went and named Alex Smith. Donovan McNabb Oh, Kevin Cobb. 785 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: We know about Kevin Cobb. A. J. Feeley, Marcus Peters, 786 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: D four, Fido Shepherd name the last time Andy Reid 787 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: lost a trade? Which makes that intriguing, does it not? Yes, 788 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: it does, Paulie, and I have to tell you right now, 789 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill made that offense, hum Man, He really did. 790 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is a great quarterback. There's no doubt about it. 791 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: This guy is so excellent and so good. But Tyree 792 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: Hill changed that offense. Paul You had to account every 793 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: time you had to know where Tyree Hill was lined up. 794 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: He provided aid, comfort and shelter in a lot of 795 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: space for guys like Travis Kelsey running those short and 796 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: intermediate routes because everyone else was playing so deep because 797 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: of Tyreek Hill. He changed that offense. Dear what he 798 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: said today he did as a press commerce said, wherever 799 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: I go, the Cheetah he always has to prove he's 800 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: the fast this guy and the team, no matter what. 801 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: He went third person about himself, He has challenged any 802 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: comers on this new team, the Dolphins, to a foot race. 803 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: He says he has to prove he is the fastest 804 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: guy in any team he's on and so, by the way, 805 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: he got seventy two million guarantee guaranteed. I mean, did 806 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: you ever think we go in the offseason and say, 807 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 1: you know what that guy got Christian Kirk money Special. 808 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: Thanks Jim O Mondro, Lauren Coble, Ron Wolfley and Darrener. 809 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: But I'm Paul Calvc. This has been the Big Red 810 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert, Jah Number one. 811 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: Kil You've been listening to The Big Red Rage presented 812 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: by satan Ford in Guilbert. Are you satan Ford State 813 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: Farm talk to an Agent today at eight hundred State 814 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: Farm And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals dot 815 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: com Slash Podcasts. 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