WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Filling Needs One By One 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:18.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:22.239 streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:26.920 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:34.639 and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for another edition of 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:39.839 mix Shots. On this Thursday morning, May seventh, two thousand 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.360 and twenty, Bill Jones with Mickey Spagnola and Everson Walls 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.280 on another one of those days that we've all been 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:53.199 waiting for. Yes, this is NFL's schedule release day and 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.160 we're gonna preview that over the course of the next hour. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.600 And there's so much more to get to as well. Mickey, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.000 how are you are doing? I'm doing fine, Bill, And 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.680 it was good to see Everson there. Take a big 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:11.520 last gulp of his coffee drink, sir, all right, Yes, yes, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:17.520 the drink of champions. The drink very good. And he 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.959 is a champion. Everson Walls is a champion. That's exactly right. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.720 Are you sitting at the edge of your seat just 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.360 waiting for that schedule to come out? Yes, I am, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.240 I am. I can't wait for it. U for a 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.840 season that we probably won't even play, you know, come on, 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:42.160 come on now, be optimistic. Can somebody give me a vaccine? 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.560 We got vaccine, And hey, this is the most optimistic 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.280 day of this whole We're entering week number nine of 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.680 our nation being walked down. Basically, this is day number 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.680 fifty seven. And by the way, speaking of the number 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.920 fifty seven, I do believe that is the number of 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:05.280 interceptions that Everson Walls had National Football League career. But 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.840 this is the most optimistic day because we are looking 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.440 ahead to what will be a season this fall. So 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.560 do you say, Okay, I'm gonna down the guys, I'm 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:21.519 gonna do it down. I'm gonna be We're gonna We're 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.000 gonna intercept. We're gonna intercept COVID nineteen. There you go, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.720 There you go. But we got a lot to talk about. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.400 The Cowboys have been making news left and right, and 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:35.400 they just continue to sign these former first round draft 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.480 picks in free agency. Well, Bill, they uh the last 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:45.280 one they just signed Cameron Irving. Uh. And I thought 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.359 this was pretty good. And I'm gonna brag on myself 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.360 because last Friday I talked about I am yes. So 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:57.359 just no, no Everson, no one else will. No one 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.600 else will brag on Mickey, so he's got to brag 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.440 on him, that's right, no one else will. So on 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.040 Friday and my column I talked about all the things 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.960 the Cowboys accomplished, but they had three more things to accomplish. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:14.920 One was signing a backup swing tackle. One was to 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:20.240 find an inexpensive, experienced defensive van for the edge on 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.080 the right side. And the other one with all these 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:27.480 veteran quarterbacks out there floating around, why not sign one 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.200 of those guys to an inexpensive contract as a backup. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.720 So what did they do? The next day? They signed 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.960 Dalton Andy Dalton to be the backup quarterback, and then 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.960 yesterday Cameron Irving to be the backup swing tackle or 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.600 at least compete for it. So that one more step 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:51.080 to go, and they go to Daylowney next. Maybe if 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.360 he wants to play in a one year prove it deal, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:04:38.160 I bet he doesn't. Yeah, you know, um, And usually 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.960 it comes down to what his salary demands are. And 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.400 that was the That was the beauty of this Andy 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.880 Dalton deal, Mickey, when you look at what Dalton was 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:49.960 willing to play for, you know, and when you look 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:54.360 at his whole contract situation. UM, you know, I believe 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.320 he was due to make around seventeen million dollars. Obviously 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.520 he was not going to make that this year U 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:05.400 with with Cincinnati. Um, but I thought it was very 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.080 prudent on his part to go to the Bengals and say, hey, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.200 you're gonna let go of me eventually, anyway, do it now? 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.800 And uh. And it only took a couple of days 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.120 before he had to deal with what is essentially his 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:21.239 hometown team, the Cowboys, and he got some money up front, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.560 which he was not. You know, depending on what happens 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.120 with this season, he may not get any money if 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.080 we played this out and we don't have a season 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:42.280 the way his contract was structured before. So so Bill, Yeah, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:46.479 you're exactly right. And you know, the Cowboys were able 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.320 to have another, you know, another player just fall in 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.920 their lap. All the all the things kind of met right. Uh. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.400 Dalton becomes the free agent they released him. He's willing 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:05.000 to accept a backup role and at a backup role 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.080 price you mentioned that got him for a good deal. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.600 I mean it's a one year, three million dollar deal. 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.600 He gets a million dollars up front, two million dollars 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.160 based salary and incentives that he can make a heck 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.200 of a lot more if he has to play. So 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.840 to me, it's an insurance policy for a guy that 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.200 has started one hundred and thirty three games in his 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.279 career in the National Football League. And this is kind 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.440 of their John Kitten, a Kyle Orton, Mark Sanchez type 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.680 deal where you get a guy that has experienced, you know, 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:47.240 he has Dalton has as many Pro Bowl appearances as 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:54.080 Cooper Rush had NFL career attempts three each. Right, So 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.760 to me, to get this guy at and here's the 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.320 other thing that falls in their lap, he's out a 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.880 house here in Dallas. So in this and he said 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.000 yesterday in his conference call that you know, the COVID 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.880 nineteen thing didn't have anything to do with it, but 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.680 it certainly makes it easier to play for a team. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.560 And you don't have to move somewhere else, You don't 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.440 have to move your family because in the offseason they 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:23.200 live here in Dallas. And was willing to pay for 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.040 play for like I said, three million dollars plus incentives, 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.320 and he put a million dollars in the bank already 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.440 with the signing bonus and as you said, or as 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.720 Everson said, if they don't play the season, he still 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.080 gets the signing bonus. I would imagine they're not going 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.080 to cancel that out. So at least he made some money. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.360 And he was unemployed. Hey, it's May first. I don't 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.320 have a job. I don't know if I'm going to 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.960 play any games. And he took care of all that 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.120 stuff by signing with the Cowboys. Yeah. I think it 0:07:54.240 --> 0:08:13.400 was very smart. Okay, and every Everson, I am being 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.200 told by our producer Chris Bean that you need to 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:19.680 reboot your app in case you aren't hearing Chris. And 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.840 so until I get word that Everson is back with us, Mickey, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.000 let's let's talk about this. You know, Dalton, I think 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.800 it's easy for Andy to go to his wife and say, hey, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.360 this is the way this lays out. We don't know 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.439 whether we're going to have a season or not. Right now, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.040 we've got no money coming in. I take this deal 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.640 with our hometown team, and we got our bills paid 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.560 and then some up front right now. Well, Bill, and 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.640 you know the other thing he probably looked at is 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.760 he saw how other quarterbacks have kind of done a 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.560 similar thing and rebooted their careers. Think about you know 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.559 what Teddy Bridgewater did in New Orleans. He gets a 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:05.200 job in Carolina. Foles kind of rebooted his career. Didn't 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.160 work out in Jacksonville, but he's in Chicago. You get 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.319 Jamis Winston probably looked around and said, huh, musical chairs 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.040 are spinning and I might not have a seat. I'll 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.000 go take this one year deal with the Saints, and 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.360 maybe the same thing could happened. And look what happened 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.960 to Ryan Tannehill. He kind of bet on himself going 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.840 to Tennessee and then he ends up the starting quarterback. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.720 So I'm sure Dalton looked at this thing and said, Okay, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.560 you know, I still think I'm a starting quarterback, but 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.040 if I have to be a backup for a year, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.959 so be it. And like I said, and if he plays, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.680 he makes more money. If he plays fifty percent of 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.679 the regular season snaps and the Cowboys go to the playoffs, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.720 he makes another million dollars. If he plays thirty five 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.680 percent of the snaps and plays fifty percent of the 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.480 snaps in the playoffs and they win a first round game, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.800 he makes another five hundred thousand dollars. So again, he 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:07.280 understands he's in a situation where he's the insurance policy. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.320 If they don't need him, okay, it makes three million. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.439 If they need him, he has an opportunity to make 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.240 more if he's productive. I gotta say. I read a 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.080 quote from him saying that he's working on the second 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.840 half of his career. That made me a little nervous. Okay, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.080 I don't want him to work on the second half 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.320 of his career here. That means that Dak is not playing, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.720 so didn't I was not happy about those words at all. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.600 If he's gonna come here, I want him to be 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.160 here for one year. If a Teddy Bridgewater thing happens 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.400 for him, that means that Dak has gone down for 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.320 one reason or another. So you know, I love my 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.360 homeboard coming back home. I'm all about the Texas athlete. 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.880 Me and Bill were all about that. But now I 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.960 don't want Andy. I don't want Andy to touch the 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:59.719 field unless it's a blowout. I'm sorry, And you know what, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.560 And he understands by saying that. I think he understands 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.360 that the market will be different next year because he 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.959 got released so late, so teams have already drafted their quarterbacks. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.040 They've already signed all these other veterans, and he was 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.960 late to the party because, as Bill said, Cincinnati kind 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.320 of hung onto him until they finally said, well what 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.560 was it, Bill, the last two days of April before 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.760 they released them sure day of April. And you can 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.319 really relate it to Nick Foles at Jacksonville because early 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:37.040 on in free agency, when obviously Chicago once wanted to 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.840 have competition for Mitchell Trubisky, there's a lot of talk 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.440 that maybe there'd be a trade where Dalton could go 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.079 from Cincinnati to Chicago. Well, they went with Nick Foles, 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.120 and had Dalton been released at the beginning of free agency, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.160 he would have been right in the mix to get 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.640 the same kind of contract that Foles got in Chicago, 0:11:54.679 --> 0:12:00.000 which is, I believe twenty million dollars guaranteed to reboot 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.920 his career. You know, now, that's all up right there, 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:11.199 million verses one meal, I'm sorry so to anyway. And 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.319 the other part of this is it doesn't for us. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.040 Right now, as we are in day number fifty seven 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.840 of this lockdown, it seems like the days are going 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:24.040 very slow. But really, when you look at the next 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.480 six months or whatever, this calendar is going to go 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.640 real fast in the NFL, and before you know it, Andy, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.840 we're going to be through this next season and Andy 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.680 Dalton is going to be out there as a free 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.480 agent and be able to play in the market. He 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.679 I mean, the way that's one way he can look 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.640 at it is, Hey, he's back home. He gets to 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.160 play with the with the Cowboys, even if he doesn't 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:46.600 touch the field whatever. Then he's got six months to 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.480 learn under Mike McCarthy and these other guys. How about 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.480 the other thing with this where he rejoins now with 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.800 a coaching staff going back to his college days, Wow, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.040 he played against it. He split Boise State when he 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.040 was at TCU. Kellen Moore was a quarterback, beat him, 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.800 I think in the point set of Bowl, lost to 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.040 him in the Fiesta Bowl. And then Scott Tolzine is 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.880 also on this Cowboys coaching staff. He was the quarterback 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.440 at Wisconsin when TCU played Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:21.319 and had they're perfect thirteen and oh seasons. That's pretty interesting. No, absolutely, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:26.600 And and and the thing Everson is, you know, and 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.200 I've always said this about guys that are backup quarterbacks. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.800 The best thing for a backup quarterback is to never 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.560 have to play, because then you don't find out why 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.320 they're a backup quarterback. Right. But in his case, he's 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.800 only thirty two, he's played nine years, and he's his 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.440 numbers are pretty darn good if you take out this 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.360 past season when Cincinnati obviously was just horrible and it 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.320 wasn't just a quarterback play. But we're talking about a 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.320 guy that the first five years of his career he 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.640 led the Bengals. Then, let me repeat that, the Bengals 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:04.160 to five Bengals went to five straight playoffs and he 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.960 started as a rookie. Now the fifth year he led them. Unfortunately, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.960 you know, that might have been a big season for Cincinnati. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.160 They won the first seven games. They were sitting there 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.720 at ten and two going into Game thirteen, and in 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.280 the first quarter he broke his thumb and AJ McCarron 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.960 had to take over for the Bengals. They lost that game. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.440 They ended up going two and two over the final 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.680 four and Dalton didn't play anymore and in the playoffs. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.560 In the playoff game the first round, McCarron had to 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:40.320 start and they got beat by Pittsburgh eighteen sixteen, but 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.240 had Dalton been able to finish that season, who knows 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.720 where Cincinnati might have gone. So he's been pretty good. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.560 He's the second best quarterback in the history of the 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.040 Cincinnati Bengals, and the only one that was better was 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:58.880 Ken Anderson. And Ken Anderson played sixteen season, but he 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.640 won more games, didn't Boomer. He threw WHOA, that's saying 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.040 a lot. That is a lot say as many games 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:11.360 as Boomer did. Boomer pat some more game than he did. Interesting, 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.360 and speaking of AJ, he didn't have a j Green 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.320 this past season, and we've seen around here what it's 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.440 like for a quarterback when you don't have a number 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.200 one receiver. Yeah, I mean, I have to say I 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.000 had no idea that he was only thirty two years old. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.080 I guess you're starting as a rookie. Just tend to 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.360 think that the players older than what they really are 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.240 at that point because they started off so early in 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.920 their careers. At thirty two years old. He could really 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.760 offer a lot of advice to that. I mean, let's 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.840 be real. Kellen is a great guy, but it's always 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.480 good to have somebody there that's had more experience than 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.600 you doing certain situations and you can hopefully lean on 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.760 that guy. I don't know how much Dat was leaning 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.160 on Tony Romo when Dak took over for Romo his 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.440 first year starting, but hopefully that kind of helped Dak's 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.880 progression early on because he had a great first season. Maybe, 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.400 you know, maybe Andy Dalton can do that for Dak 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.360 this year to where when you get those those those 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.800 away games where he doesn't have a good game going 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.200 against one of the better defenses. We know how badly 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.600 he was in regards to play against really good defenses. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.680 So maybe a guy like Dalton can help him through 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.920 some bad stretches, because let's let's face it, guy, he's 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.680 gonna have some bad stretches like any quarterback, you know. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.720 And and along those lines, listening to Gary Patterson, his 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.240 own coach at TCU, talk about him, you know, Andy 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.240 Dalton is the type player that's he's a team guy. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.160 He's gonna do what he can to help Dak Prescott. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.520 He understands what his role is right now. And Dak 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.040 talks a lot about the effect that Mark Sinzez had 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.040 on him early in his career here in Dallas when 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.800 he was the backup quarterback here. I think it's important, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.640 even for Dak now going into his fifth year, to 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.560 have a guy as they've build a relationship here, to 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.879 have a guy that he trusts, who can point out 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.560 some things on the sideline as the game's going along, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.840 even where he might not have the same kind of 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.880 access to coaches in those situations. That's right, that's good 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.920 to have a I mean, think about it. Romo had 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:22.080 Brad Johnson in his ear as a young starting quarterback. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:27.480 Then he had John Kittner Kyle Orton, so he for 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.240 several of those first seven eight years in the league 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.160 he had a veteran cornerback behind him, and then these 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.000 past couple of years, Dak was kind of the guy. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.440 So yeah, I think if he doesn't play, just having 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.720 his voice there to go along with Mike McCarthy and 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:51.240 Kellen Moore and Tolsine and nuss Meyer, that's just the 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.800 plus I think. And again, it only cost them nine 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.000 hundred thousand dollars more against the cap than it would 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.720 have if they kept Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush has restricted 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.159 free agency contract was two point one million, uh and 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.119 this guy's playing for three So how many TCU players 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:15.760 as they give us, guys, what's that we have this 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.480 year all of a sudden, what's going on? Three for sure? 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.240 And I know too. You got the two yeah, the agents, Yeah, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:28.040 the two rookie free agents Siwo or Alana Lua you 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.920 got it baby and Darius Jed Anderson. A lot of 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.440 people are thinking that either one of those guys, you 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.879 have a real shot of making this team. Cowboys haven't 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.119 opening as a third running back on this team. And 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:44.679 Alana Lua, he's gonna be challenging. Jamazlawali is at fullback type, 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.640 although he's not a he didn't play fullback in college, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.560 but you look at his dimensions and he could fill 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.679 that role. Be sort of an h back caught like 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.600 sixty passes out of the backfield at TCU. I really 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.600 like the way he runs the ball between the tackles. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.880 Two and so it's gonna be interesting. There's just talk 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.119 with Will McClay last week about him. There's just you know, 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:08.280 there's not very many roster spots for especially for a 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.159 fullback type, and so there's this competition there and uh, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.679 if he but I do believe that if he doesn't 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.120 make the team, that he could be a prime candidate 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.199 for the practice squad. Uh. And then uh, you know. 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.520 The other guy of the undrafted guys that will mention 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.400 to me that he liked a lot was the South 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.760 Carolina running back Rico Dowdle or Dowdale. I'm not sure 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.960 how you pronounce his name, but we're going to learn 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.040 how to pronounce it pretty quickly because there will be 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:41.840 a season, and Everson, there will be a preseason. In fact, 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:47.760 oh wad on, I don't know when's this preseason schedule 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:52.439 coming out, So Bill to just to go on what 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.920 you just said about U about the running back, I mean, 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.560 they have room for a third running back if they 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.400 want on the fifty five man roster. Yeah they need one, Yeah, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.520 they need need one. And from a fullback standpoint, I 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.439 didn't know much about this dude until I saw his 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.400 highlights and the way he runs. I can tell he's 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:17.640 got the mindset to be a fullback right because he 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.120 does run pretty hard between the tackles and listening to 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.080 an interview with him, he sounds like he's a very 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.760 willing blocker and if he can catch the ball, who knows, 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:31.960 he just might challenge Olawally for that fullback spot. Keep 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.560 an eye this guy, and he's a smart guy too, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.000 graduated in three and a half years from TC. That's 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.240 what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk about 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.040 players like that. Guys. You have to get him an 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.440 open field. If he's going to play that h back, 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:47.200 you're getting the ball at the right time. He's gonna 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.600 look for somebody to run over in the secondary. That 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.600 might be a nice transition to use him in specialty situations, 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.600 goal line, short yardage and be able to open up 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.920 the game and give you some options versus run and pat. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.480 That would be pretty good. Let me ask Chris Beam, 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.640 our producer. We need to take a break here. Chris Beam, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.000 all right, we're gonna take a break and we're gonna 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.359 be back with more mix shots here in just a moment. 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.679 I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.960 back in the day. 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What have 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.080 you researched on cam irving? Yeah, I was gonna say, 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.800 hopefully this cam is better than the previous camp, although 0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:00.000 you know, the Giants signed them for four million dollars. 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.560 I don't know how much of that is incentive stuff, 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.960 but uh, you know, at least this guy has played 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.920 games in the league, has started He started forty two 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:14.119 games between Cleveland, where he was a first round draft choice, 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.200 and then he got traded to Kansas City. He started 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.480 twenty five games for the Chiefs. And the other thing 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:23.040 about him is he's played all three spots on the 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:27.560 offensive line in the NFL. He's played he's played guard, 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:32.520 he's played center, he's played tackle. And you know, in 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:38.119 twenty eighteen he started thirteen or fourteen games for Kansas City. 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.840 So again and in his career twenty eight hundred snaps. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:47.160 So I like the fact that, you know, even though 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.960 Kansas City declined picking up his fifth year option, he 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.760 started those games at guard. So maybe what if he 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:59.160