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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for another edition of
Speaker 1: mix Shots. On this Thursday morning, May seventh, two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty, Bill Jones with Mickey Spagnola and Everson Walls
Speaker 1: on another one of those days that we've all been
Speaker 1: waiting for. Yes, this is NFL's schedule release day and
Speaker 1: we're gonna preview that over the course of the next hour.
Speaker 1: And there's so much more to get to as well. Mickey,
Speaker 1: how are you are doing? I'm doing fine, Bill, And
Speaker 1: it was good to see Everson there. Take a big
Speaker 1: last gulp of his coffee drink, sir, all right, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: the drink of champions. The drink very good. And he
Speaker 1: is a champion. Everson Walls is a champion. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Are you sitting at the edge of your seat just
Speaker 1: waiting for that schedule to come out? Yes, I am,
Speaker 1: I am. I can't wait for it. U for a
Speaker 1: season that we probably won't even play, you know, come on,
Speaker 1: come on now, be optimistic. Can somebody give me a vaccine?
Speaker 1: We got vaccine, And hey, this is the most optimistic
Speaker 1: day of this whole We're entering week number nine of
Speaker 1: our nation being walked down. Basically, this is day number
Speaker 1: fifty seven. And by the way, speaking of the number
Speaker 1: fifty seven, I do believe that is the number of
Speaker 1: interceptions that Everson Walls had National Football League career. But
Speaker 1: this is the most optimistic day because we are looking
Speaker 1: ahead to what will be a season this fall. So
Speaker 1: do you say, Okay, I'm gonna down the guys, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it down. I'm gonna be We're gonna We're
Speaker 1: gonna intercept. We're gonna intercept COVID nineteen. There you go,
Speaker 1: There you go. But we got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have been making news left and right, and
Speaker 1: they just continue to sign these former first round draft
Speaker 1: picks in free agency. Well, Bill, they uh the last
Speaker 1: one they just signed Cameron Irving. Uh. And I thought
Speaker 1: this was pretty good. And I'm gonna brag on myself
Speaker 1: because last Friday I talked about I am yes. So
Speaker 1: just no, no Everson, no one else will. No one
Speaker 1: else will brag on Mickey, so he's got to brag
Speaker 1: on him, that's right, no one else will. So on
Speaker 1: Friday and my column I talked about all the things
Speaker 1: the Cowboys accomplished, but they had three more things to accomplish.
Speaker 1: One was signing a backup swing tackle. One was to
Speaker 1: find an inexpensive, experienced defensive van for the edge on
Speaker 1: the right side. And the other one with all these
Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks out there floating around, why not sign one
Speaker 1: of those guys to an inexpensive contract as a backup.
Speaker 1: So what did they do? The next day? They signed
Speaker 1: Dalton Andy Dalton to be the backup quarterback, and then
Speaker 1: yesterday Cameron Irving to be the backup swing tackle or
Speaker 1: at least compete for it. So that one more step
Speaker 1: to go, and they go to Daylowney next. Maybe if
Speaker 1: he wants to play in a one year prove it deal,
Speaker 1: I bet he doesn't. Yeah, you know, um, And usually
Speaker 1: it comes down to what his salary demands are. And
Speaker 1: that was the That was the beauty of this Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton deal, Mickey, when you look at what Dalton was
Speaker 1: willing to play for, you know, and when you look
Speaker 1: at his whole contract situation. UM, you know, I believe
Speaker 1: he was due to make around seventeen million dollars. Obviously
Speaker 1: he was not going to make that this year U
Speaker 1: with with Cincinnati. Um, but I thought it was very
Speaker 1: prudent on his part to go to the Bengals and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna let go of me eventually, anyway, do it now?
Speaker 1: And uh. And it only took a couple of days
Speaker 1: before he had to deal with what is essentially his
Speaker 1: hometown team, the Cowboys, and he got some money up front,
Speaker 1: which he was not. You know, depending on what happens
Speaker 1: with this season, he may not get any money if
Speaker 1: we played this out and we don't have a season
Speaker 1: the way his contract was structured before. So so Bill, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And you know, the Cowboys were able
Speaker 1: to have another, you know, another player just fall in
Speaker 1: their lap. All the all the things kind of met right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Dalton becomes the free agent they released him. He's willing
Speaker 1: to accept a backup role and at a backup role
Speaker 1: price you mentioned that got him for a good deal.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a one year, three million dollar deal.
Speaker 1: He gets a million dollars up front, two million dollars
Speaker 1: based salary and incentives that he can make a heck
Speaker 1: of a lot more if he has to play. So
Speaker 1: to me, it's an insurance policy for a guy that
Speaker 1: has started one hundred and thirty three games in his
Speaker 1: career in the National Football League. And this is kind
Speaker 1: of their John Kitten, a Kyle Orton, Mark Sanchez type
Speaker 1: deal where you get a guy that has experienced, you know,
Speaker 1: he has Dalton has as many Pro Bowl appearances as
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush had NFL career attempts three each. Right, So
Speaker 1: to me, to get this guy at and here's the
Speaker 1: other thing that falls in their lap, he's out a
Speaker 1: house here in Dallas. So in this and he said
Speaker 1: yesterday in his conference call that you know, the COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen thing didn't have anything to do with it, but
Speaker 1: it certainly makes it easier to play for a team.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to move somewhere else, You don't
Speaker 1: have to move your family because in the offseason they
Speaker 1: live here in Dallas. And was willing to pay for
Speaker 1: play for like I said, three million dollars plus incentives,
Speaker 1: and he put a million dollars in the bank already
Speaker 1: with the signing bonus and as you said, or as
Speaker 1: Everson said, if they don't play the season, he still
Speaker 1: gets the signing bonus. I would imagine they're not going
Speaker 1: to cancel that out. So at least he made some money.
Speaker 1: And he was unemployed. Hey, it's May first. I don't
Speaker 1: have a job. I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 1: play any games. And he took care of all that
Speaker 1: stuff by signing with the Cowboys. Yeah. I think it
Speaker 1: was very smart. Okay, and every Everson, I am being
Speaker 1: told by our producer Chris Bean that you need to
Speaker 1: reboot your app in case you aren't hearing Chris. And
Speaker 1: so until I get word that Everson is back with us, Mickey,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about this. You know, Dalton, I think
Speaker 1: it's easy for Andy to go to his wife and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is the way this lays out. We don't know
Speaker 1: whether we're going to have a season or not. Right now,
Speaker 1: we've got no money coming in. I take this deal
Speaker 1: with our hometown team, and we got our bills paid
Speaker 1: and then some up front right now. Well, Bill, and
Speaker 1: you know the other thing he probably looked at is
Speaker 1: he saw how other quarterbacks have kind of done a
Speaker 1: similar thing and rebooted their careers. Think about you know
Speaker 1: what Teddy Bridgewater did in New Orleans. He gets a
Speaker 1: job in Carolina. Foles kind of rebooted his career. Didn't
Speaker 1: work out in Jacksonville, but he's in Chicago. You get
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston probably looked around and said, huh, musical chairs
Speaker 1: are spinning and I might not have a seat. I'll
Speaker 1: go take this one year deal with the Saints, and
Speaker 1: maybe the same thing could happened. And look what happened
Speaker 1: to Ryan Tannehill. He kind of bet on himself going
Speaker 1: to Tennessee and then he ends up the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure Dalton looked at this thing and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I still think I'm a starting quarterback, but
Speaker 1: if I have to be a backup for a year,
Speaker 1: so be it. And like I said, and if he plays,
Speaker 1: he makes more money. If he plays fifty percent of
Speaker 1: the regular season snaps and the Cowboys go to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he makes another million dollars. If he plays thirty five
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and plays fifty percent of the
Speaker 1: snaps in the playoffs and they win a first round game,
Speaker 1: he makes another five hundred thousand dollars. So again, he
Speaker 1: understands he's in a situation where he's the insurance policy.
Speaker 1: If they don't need him, okay, it makes three million.
Speaker 1: If they need him, he has an opportunity to make
Speaker 1: more if he's productive. I gotta say. I read a
Speaker 1: quote from him saying that he's working on the second
Speaker 1: half of his career. That made me a little nervous. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want him to work on the second half
Speaker 1: of his career here. That means that Dak is not playing,
Speaker 1: so didn't I was not happy about those words at all.
Speaker 1: If he's gonna come here, I want him to be
Speaker 1: here for one year. If a Teddy Bridgewater thing happens
Speaker 1: for him, that means that Dak has gone down for
Speaker 1: one reason or another. So you know, I love my
Speaker 1: homeboard coming back home. I'm all about the Texas athlete.
Speaker 1: Me and Bill were all about that. But now I
Speaker 1: don't want Andy. I don't want Andy to touch the
Speaker 1: field unless it's a blowout. I'm sorry, And you know what,
Speaker 1: And he understands by saying that. I think he understands
Speaker 1: that the market will be different next year because he
Speaker 1: got released so late, so teams have already drafted their quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They've already signed all these other veterans, and he was
Speaker 1: late to the party because, as Bill said, Cincinnati kind
Speaker 1: of hung onto him until they finally said, well what
Speaker 1: was it, Bill, the last two days of April before
Speaker 1: they released them sure day of April. And you can
Speaker 1: really relate it to Nick Foles at Jacksonville because early
Speaker 1: on in free agency, when obviously Chicago once wanted to
Speaker 1: have competition for Mitchell Trubisky, there's a lot of talk
Speaker 1: that maybe there'd be a trade where Dalton could go
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati to Chicago. Well, they went with Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: and had Dalton been released at the beginning of free agency,
Speaker 1: he would have been right in the mix to get
Speaker 1: the same kind of contract that Foles got in Chicago,
Speaker 1: which is, I believe twenty million dollars guaranteed to reboot
Speaker 1: his career. You know, now, that's all up right there,
Speaker 1: million verses one meal, I'm sorry so to anyway. And
Speaker 1: the other part of this is it doesn't for us.
Speaker 1: Right now, as we are in day number fifty seven
Speaker 1: of this lockdown, it seems like the days are going
Speaker 1: very slow. But really, when you look at the next
Speaker 1: six months or whatever, this calendar is going to go
Speaker 1: real fast in the NFL, and before you know it, Andy,
Speaker 1: we're going to be through this next season and Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton is going to be out there as a free
Speaker 1: agent and be able to play in the market. He
Speaker 1: I mean, the way that's one way he can look
Speaker 1: at it is, Hey, he's back home. He gets to
Speaker 1: play with the with the Cowboys, even if he doesn't
Speaker 1: touch the field whatever. Then he's got six months to
Speaker 1: learn under Mike McCarthy and these other guys. How about
Speaker 1: the other thing with this where he rejoins now with
Speaker 1: a coaching staff going back to his college days, Wow,
Speaker 1: he played against it. He split Boise State when he
Speaker 1: was at TCU. Kellen Moore was a quarterback, beat him,
Speaker 1: I think in the point set of Bowl, lost to
Speaker 1: him in the Fiesta Bowl. And then Scott Tolzine is
Speaker 1: also on this Cowboys coaching staff. He was the quarterback
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin when TCU played Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl
Speaker 1: and had they're perfect thirteen and oh seasons. That's pretty interesting. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And and and the thing Everson is, you know, and
Speaker 1: I've always said this about guys that are backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: The best thing for a backup quarterback is to never
Speaker 1: have to play, because then you don't find out why
Speaker 1: they're a backup quarterback. Right. But in his case, he's
Speaker 1: only thirty two, he's played nine years, and he's his
Speaker 1: numbers are pretty darn good if you take out this
Speaker 1: past season when Cincinnati obviously was just horrible and it
Speaker 1: wasn't just a quarterback play. But we're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy that the first five years of his career he
Speaker 1: led the Bengals. Then, let me repeat that, the Bengals
Speaker 1: to five Bengals went to five straight playoffs and he
Speaker 1: started as a rookie. Now the fifth year he led them. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know, that might have been a big season for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: They won the first seven games. They were sitting there
Speaker 1: at ten and two going into Game thirteen, and in
Speaker 1: the first quarter he broke his thumb and AJ McCarron
Speaker 1: had to take over for the Bengals. They lost that game.
Speaker 1: They ended up going two and two over the final
Speaker 1: four and Dalton didn't play anymore and in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: In the playoff game the first round, McCarron had to
Speaker 1: start and they got beat by Pittsburgh eighteen sixteen, but
Speaker 1: had Dalton been able to finish that season, who knows
Speaker 1: where Cincinnati might have gone. So he's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: He's the second best quarterback in the history of the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, and the only one that was better was
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson. And Ken Anderson played sixteen season, but he
Speaker 1: won more games, didn't Boomer. He threw WHOA, that's saying
Speaker 1: a lot. That is a lot say as many games
Speaker 1: as Boomer did. Boomer pat some more game than he did. Interesting,
Speaker 1: and speaking of AJ, he didn't have a j Green
Speaker 1: this past season, and we've seen around here what it's
Speaker 1: like for a quarterback when you don't have a number
Speaker 1: one receiver. Yeah, I mean, I have to say I
Speaker 1: had no idea that he was only thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: I guess you're starting as a rookie. Just tend to
Speaker 1: think that the players older than what they really are
Speaker 1: at that point because they started off so early in
Speaker 1: their careers. At thirty two years old. He could really
Speaker 1: offer a lot of advice to that. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: be real. Kellen is a great guy, but it's always
Speaker 1: good to have somebody there that's had more experience than
Speaker 1: you doing certain situations and you can hopefully lean on
Speaker 1: that guy. I don't know how much Dat was leaning
Speaker 1: on Tony Romo when Dak took over for Romo his
Speaker 1: first year starting, but hopefully that kind of helped Dak's
Speaker 1: progression early on because he had a great first season. Maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Andy Dalton can do that for Dak
Speaker 1: this year to where when you get those those those
Speaker 1: away games where he doesn't have a good game going
Speaker 1: against one of the better defenses. We know how badly
Speaker 1: he was in regards to play against really good defenses.
Speaker 1: So maybe a guy like Dalton can help him through
Speaker 1: some bad stretches, because let's let's face it, guy, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have some bad stretches like any quarterback, you know.
Speaker 1: And and along those lines, listening to Gary Patterson, his
Speaker 1: own coach at TCU, talk about him, you know, Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton is the type player that's he's a team guy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he can to help Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: He understands what his role is right now. And Dak
Speaker 1: talks a lot about the effect that Mark Sinzez had
Speaker 1: on him early in his career here in Dallas when
Speaker 1: he was the backup quarterback here. I think it's important,
Speaker 1: even for Dak now going into his fifth year, to
Speaker 1: have a guy as they've build a relationship here, to
Speaker 1: have a guy that he trusts, who can point out
Speaker 1: some things on the sideline as the game's going along,
Speaker 1: even where he might not have the same kind of
Speaker 1: access to coaches in those situations. That's right, that's good
Speaker 1: to have a I mean, think about it. Romo had
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson in his ear as a young starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: Then he had John Kittner Kyle Orton, so he for
Speaker 1: several of those first seven eight years in the league
Speaker 1: he had a veteran cornerback behind him, and then these
Speaker 1: past couple of years, Dak was kind of the guy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think if he doesn't play, just having
Speaker 1: his voice there to go along with Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and Tolsine and nuss Meyer, that's just the
Speaker 1: plus I think. And again, it only cost them nine
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars more against the cap than it would
Speaker 1: have if they kept Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush has restricted
Speaker 1: free agency contract was two point one million, uh and
Speaker 1: this guy's playing for three So how many TCU players
Speaker 1: as they give us, guys, what's that we have this
Speaker 1: year all of a sudden, what's going on? Three for sure?
Speaker 1: And I know too. You got the two yeah, the agents, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the two rookie free agents Siwo or Alana Lua you
Speaker 1: got it baby and Darius Jed Anderson. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are thinking that either one of those guys, you
Speaker 1: have a real shot of making this team. Cowboys haven't
Speaker 1: opening as a third running back on this team. And
Speaker 1: Alana Lua, he's gonna be challenging. Jamazlawali is at fullback type,
Speaker 1: although he's not a he didn't play fullback in college,
Speaker 1: but you look at his dimensions and he could fill
Speaker 1: that role. Be sort of an h back caught like
Speaker 1: sixty passes out of the backfield at TCU. I really
Speaker 1: like the way he runs the ball between the tackles.
Speaker 1: Two and so it's gonna be interesting. There's just talk
Speaker 1: with Will McClay last week about him. There's just you know,
Speaker 1: there's not very many roster spots for especially for a
Speaker 1: fullback type, and so there's this competition there and uh,
Speaker 1: if he but I do believe that if he doesn't
Speaker 1: make the team, that he could be a prime candidate
Speaker 1: for the practice squad. Uh. And then uh, you know.
Speaker 1: The other guy of the undrafted guys that will mention
Speaker 1: to me that he liked a lot was the South
Speaker 1: Carolina running back Rico Dowdle or Dowdale. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how you pronounce his name, but we're going to learn
Speaker 1: how to pronounce it pretty quickly because there will be
Speaker 1: a season, and Everson, there will be a preseason. In fact,
Speaker 1: oh wad on, I don't know when's this preseason schedule
Speaker 1: coming out, So Bill to just to go on what
Speaker 1: you just said about U about the running back, I mean,
Speaker 1: they have room for a third running back if they
Speaker 1: want on the fifty five man roster. Yeah they need one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they need need one. And from a fullback standpoint, I
Speaker 1: didn't know much about this dude until I saw his
Speaker 1: highlights and the way he runs. I can tell he's
Speaker 1: got the mindset to be a fullback right because he
Speaker 1: does run pretty hard between the tackles and listening to
Speaker 1: an interview with him, he sounds like he's a very
Speaker 1: willing blocker and if he can catch the ball, who knows,
Speaker 1: he just might challenge Olawally for that fullback spot. Keep
Speaker 1: an eye this guy, and he's a smart guy too,
Speaker 1: graduated in three and a half years from TC. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk about
Speaker 1: players like that. Guys. You have to get him an
Speaker 1: open field. If he's going to play that h back,
Speaker 1: you're getting the ball at the right time. He's gonna
Speaker 1: look for somebody to run over in the secondary. That
Speaker 1: might be a nice transition to use him in specialty situations,
Speaker 1: goal line, short yardage and be able to open up
Speaker 1: the game and give you some options versus run and pat.
Speaker 1: That would be pretty good. Let me ask Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: our producer. We need to take a break here. Chris Beam,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take a break and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: are here each and every Thursday, live at eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: from eleven to noon. Of course, you can also access
Speaker 1: it to archive Dallas Cowboys dot com, the usual places
Speaker 1: that you find all the Cowboys. Great programming, Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls. We talked a lot about Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton in the first segment. Let's talk cam irving as Mickey,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys replace one cam with another cam, and that
Speaker 1: you were never very high on cam fleming. What have
Speaker 1: you researched on cam irving? Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: hopefully this cam is better than the previous camp, although
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants signed them for four million dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that is incentive stuff,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, at least this guy has played
Speaker 1: games in the league, has started He started forty two
Speaker 1: games between Cleveland, where he was a first round draft choice,
Speaker 1: and then he got traded to Kansas City. He started
Speaker 1: twenty five games for the Chiefs. And the other thing
Speaker 1: about him is he's played all three spots on the
Speaker 1: offensive line in the NFL. He's played he's played guard,
Speaker 1: he's played center, he's played tackle. And you know, in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen he started thirteen or fourteen games for Kansas City.
Speaker 1: So again and in his career twenty eight hundred snaps.
Speaker 1: So I like the fact that, you know, even though
Speaker 1: Kansas City declined picking up his fifth year option, he
Speaker 1: started those games at guard. So maybe what if he
Speaker 1: had a backup swing tackle who was also could service
Speaker 1: your backup two. That's a pretty good deal there. So
Speaker 1: I can't say I've watched him play. You know, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's keep giving it. Let's keep giving it up, guys,
Speaker 1: Let's keep giving it up With Will McClay man. This
Speaker 1: guy's out there hustling. I think this, this this pandemic
Speaker 1: is the best thing that happened to him. And I'm
Speaker 1: hoping I'm saying that. I'm saying that jokingly, but he
Speaker 1: is on top of it. I mean, you've got guys
Speaker 1: out there that he's picking up, and these are quality individuals.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Album Smith move, that was
Speaker 1: something that baffled me a little bit, but when you
Speaker 1: look at the other moves he's made from the draft
Speaker 1: on down to these free agents, and not just the
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, but those free agents, those veteran free
Speaker 1: agents out out there. To me, I think this is
Speaker 1: a big time quality move. You can get back, you
Speaker 1: can get security in almost every position on the offensive line. Well.
Speaker 1: And it was a necessary move for this team too.
Speaker 1: I mean they they had to have a veteran guy
Speaker 1: who's a swing tack. Well, yeah, Brandon Knight as a
Speaker 1: rookie started one game at right tackle last year, but
Speaker 1: they had to And there's been talk about, Okay, you
Speaker 1: could have Connor Williams go out and play tackle or
Speaker 1: whatever and start training him out there, but because he
Speaker 1: played left tackle at Texas, but they needed a guy
Speaker 1: with experience in this league to back up both tackle
Speaker 1: spots and Mickey. When you look at Cam Irving last year,
Speaker 1: he actually started eight games at left tackle. Last year,
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher went down on the fifth play of the
Speaker 1: second game of the season and Irving came in and
Speaker 1: filled that void for half a season before Eric Fisher
Speaker 1: got back and he and Eric Fisher was able to
Speaker 1: play the last half of the season and then on
Speaker 1: through the Super Bowl for Kansas City. So if you
Speaker 1: can have somebody like that and they had a pretty
Speaker 1: good season in Kansas yeah right, yeah, yeah, and again
Speaker 1: and it's a it's another one of those one year
Speaker 1: kind of proven deals. You know, if you get the plane,
Speaker 1: maybe you get an opportunity to yourself if you don't
Speaker 1: get to play. It's a one year deal. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: it's very inexpensive. And that's the sort of thing I
Speaker 1: think they need to look for at the defensive end
Speaker 1: spot too now, because there's still a couple veteran guys
Speaker 1: out there that you would recognize their names, and if
Speaker 1: you can get them on kind of a one year
Speaker 1: proven deal as insurance against Smith, Alden Smith or Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory not being reinstated, you can't just assume that that's
Speaker 1: going to happen. You can't just assume that Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: comes back from two hip surgeries and he's the same
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford, And if he is, you still want a
Speaker 1: better pass rusher over there for nickel downs at least,
Speaker 1: so Crawford could hold it down against the run, for sure,
Speaker 1: But you just need that guy coming off the edge.
Speaker 1: And the only other guys you had out there are
Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong and Jalen Jelks, and so you needed somebody
Speaker 1: and you still need it. So I would imagine that's
Speaker 1: that's the next move if if they can find somebody
Speaker 1: to do what Dalton did and what Irving has done.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to go back a little
Speaker 1: bit to one of the unsigned h free agents. What
Speaker 1: about this guy from I think it's James Madison Rondelle Carter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you don't know about him SPACs. He look look
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I heard good things about him, and
Speaker 1: I heard they were really excited to get him, uh signed,
Speaker 1: and some of the highlights I've seen, I don't sure
Speaker 1: looks like a possibility, you know. And I didn't mention
Speaker 1: an eye uh. The fifth round draft choice, and you
Speaker 1: know this guy, here's another guy, and I talked about
Speaker 1: all these things that just kind of happened for the Cowboys. Well,
Speaker 1: this guy was one of the top collegiate defensive ends
Speaker 1: and one of the best ever at the University of Utah,
Speaker 1: and there he is in the in the fifth round
Speaker 1: for him. So again, they just keep having these person
Speaker 1: lucky deals just landed their laps and you know that
Speaker 1: might be another one. We'll see, you know. And the
Speaker 1: other thing as far as the defensive end spot goes
Speaker 1: with these free agents, it's interesting because they did it
Speaker 1: with Dalton, giving him some money upfront. With the environment
Speaker 1: that we're in right now. I haven't seen the details
Speaker 1: on cam Irving, but there probably was bonus money paid
Speaker 1: in advance. Some of these guys, these defensive ends that
Speaker 1: you're talking about, the veteran guys that are out there
Speaker 1: in free agency right now, who in other years might
Speaker 1: wait until you get closer to the season at this
Speaker 1: point and you know you might have a need in
Speaker 1: training camp, someone blows out a knee or whatever, and
Speaker 1: you'll wait till the end of training camp to sign
Speaker 1: with a team, thinking because you don't have offers right now.
Speaker 1: But a team like the Cowboys who have some money
Speaker 1: to spend, you know, who have an owner willing to
Speaker 1: spend some upfront money. There one these free agents. You
Speaker 1: can get a jump on some of these other teams
Speaker 1: by going ahead and giving them some upfront money right
Speaker 1: now and where they might sign with you, rather than
Speaker 1: waiting because they aren't sure whether there's going to be
Speaker 1: a season or not. Kind of the same mindset that
Speaker 1: maybe Dalton and Irvingham. Yeah, I signed for a couple
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and you could you could send your
Speaker 1: check from the government back saying I don't need that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on my check. I need more people
Speaker 1: to send them back. But you know, I remember when
Speaker 1: I left the Cowboys, Jimmy and I. Of course we
Speaker 1: didn't get along, and that that was all very publicized.
Speaker 1: But one thing that I was always appreciative of Jimmy,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he was appreciative as well. He was thinking,
Speaker 1: you need to get the hell, get the hell out
Speaker 1: of here right now. I want you going immediately. I
Speaker 1: want you out of my head. And that was the
Speaker 1: same way I was thinking, I want to go ahead
Speaker 1: and get away from this situation so that I can
Speaker 1: embed myself quickly into another organization's plans for the off season.
Speaker 1: I did not want until I didn't want to wait
Speaker 1: until the off season was almost over before I decided
Speaker 1: to sign. I wanted to make sure I got out there,
Speaker 1: I got away from where I was, and really start
Speaker 1: a good relationship early on with the New York Giants
Speaker 1: at the time. So to me, I did not want
Speaker 1: to wait, and I wasn't comfortable. I would not have
Speaker 1: been comfortable with waiting later on in the off season.
Speaker 1: You know, if you think about it, the same thing
Speaker 1: that happened to Dalton sort of happened to Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one because he had a if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, a seven million dollar roster bonus coming
Speaker 1: at some point in March, and you know, Jerry he
Speaker 1: didn't want to have or maybe it was March, maybe
Speaker 1: it was later on, and Jerry was hoping to release
Speaker 1: him after June one that way they could spread out
Speaker 1: the dead money from his signing bonus, and Troy wanted
Speaker 1: to get released right away because he thought he had
Speaker 1: an opportunity for another job, specifically North Turner. I think
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator in San Diego, and he was
Speaker 1: looking at hire a backup quarterback. I can get that job,
Speaker 1: and he didn't get released. And by time they finally
Speaker 1: came together and got released, they had the Chargers had
Speaker 1: signed Doug Flutie and that job was gone. And then
Speaker 1: I think it was like a month later he decided
Speaker 1: to retire. But he had the same idea that Everson
Speaker 1: was talking about. Let me get out there quick now
Speaker 1: and then find me a new spot before all the
Speaker 1: spots are taken. That's right, Hey, Everson mentioned Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 1: Of course, Jimmy Johnson replaced Tom Landry as head coach
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. He also replaced Don Shula's head coach
Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins, and of course Don Shula passed
Speaker 1: away this week at the age of ninety. Ever since,
Speaker 1: you got some memories of Don Shula, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I just remember balls just flying over my head. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of them. I think both receivers took
Speaker 1: a chunk out of my butt during that ball game.
Speaker 1: Duri Ol' Harris. I couldn't remember the other guy's name,
Speaker 1: the Italian guy wide receiver. He was heck of a player.
Speaker 1: Both of those guys. Man. I started off early with
Speaker 1: a couple of picks and at the end of the
Speaker 1: game I had to finally get one. And that was
Speaker 1: one of the more exciting games I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have ever been in with the Miami Dolphins. And that's
Speaker 1: including what was that bill super Bowl eleven. That was
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl twelve when the Cowboys and the Dolphins played. Well,
Speaker 1: there had been earlier. There was in the seventy one
Speaker 1: season and the Cowboy Who's beat the Dolphins twenty four
Speaker 1: to three in the Super Bowl? Yeah? Yeah, and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Then after that the Dolphins ended up going seventeen and old.
Speaker 1: But that next year, if I'm not mistaken, so you know,
Speaker 1: back then you had the two great coaches going at it,
Speaker 1: and somehow I became the focus of this dog one
Speaker 1: bone game because they kept they just kept coming at
Speaker 1: me and coming at me. And that's one thing about Shula.
Speaker 1: Shola is a guy that will attack your weakness no
Speaker 1: matter what. I don't care how many times he's gonna
Speaker 1: come at you, He's gonna keep coming at you until
Speaker 1: you stop him. I stopped him early on in the game.
Speaker 1: They kept coming at me. We were going back and forth.
Speaker 1: Tony dors said was bawling. Our wide receivers were doing
Speaker 1: a good job. And at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: Ron Springs had put us ahead with an amazing touchdown catch. Afterwards,
Speaker 1: they drove right back down over my head once again,
Speaker 1: drove right back down with a couple of big plays,
Speaker 1: and they were in field goal range. Facts. If you recall,
Speaker 1: I thought von Shalman, I thought he. I thought they
Speaker 1: were in field goal range before they decided to go
Speaker 1: back to the whale one too many times. And he
Speaker 1: came at me. Uh, if I'm not mistaken, d d
Speaker 1: Lewis or Bob Bruni made him throw the quick slant
Speaker 1: pass a little high, and that's all the break that
Speaker 1: I needed and came right into my arms and ended
Speaker 1: up sealing the ball game. Well, but that's yeah. Emerson
Speaker 1: ended up intercepting the ball at the six yard line.
Speaker 1: They and the Cowboys ended up winning twenty eight twenty seven.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all was needed to kick a field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got greedy. You know what he was worried about
Speaker 1: is they couldn't stop Danny White throwing to Tony Hill
Speaker 1: and Drew Pearson. Uh. And the amazing thing was, is
Speaker 1: you know, we always talked about the comebacks that Roger produced.
Speaker 1: With five minutes to go in the game, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: fell behind twenty seven fourteen yep, and they came down
Speaker 1: and they scored to make it twenty seven twenty one.
Speaker 1: And then Dennis Thurman intercepted a pass and in the
Speaker 1: next play White throws the touchdown to Springs. They stopped
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The Cowboys get the ball back and they
Speaker 1: didn't do anything, and here they came again, and they
Speaker 1: had to get the interception to be able to preserve.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys ended up intercepting Woodley five times, five times.
Speaker 1: If anybody wants to be entertained, just go to YouTube
Speaker 1: and call up nineteen eighty one Cowboys Dolphins, and I'd
Speaker 1: guarantee you it was awfully entertaining. And Bill, it reminded
Speaker 1: me of how fast that Tony Doorset was. Boy, he
Speaker 1: would hit the hole and just glide through there. I
Speaker 1: think may have been his best overall years. Nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: one was a big year for Tony Dorset. So was
Speaker 1: that Italian wide receiver Jimmy Cefalo. Jimmy Cephalo, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jimmy Cefalo. That quick Italian boy, That quick
Speaker 1: Italian was out there kicking my butt there. We ended
Speaker 1: up meeting each other a little bit later on, after
Speaker 1: we retired. We talked about that game. I tell you
Speaker 1: one more thing about shooting. You know, he loved his kids.
Speaker 1: Dave Shoela came here, if he recalled, he was our
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator rights Fags and in nineteen eighty nine, and
Speaker 1: god did he make it two years. He was just
Speaker 1: that horrible. I'm sorry. Yes, Lawrence Taylor said that Shoela's
Speaker 1: offense was so basic that he thought it was a trick.
Speaker 1: You remember that interview after Giants game. He said it
Speaker 1: was so simple, he thought it was a trick. So
Speaker 1: I mentioned that on the Randy Galloway Show. And so
Speaker 1: I think Shula told Dave. Shula told his dad, coach Don,
Speaker 1: that Everson is down here talking about me bad on
Speaker 1: the radio. And so schulad daddy Shula goes to Gary
Speaker 1: Myers Spags. He goes to Gary Myers and goes, hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on with this Emmerson guy? Why is he
Speaker 1: talking about my son so bad? That's about two That's
Speaker 1: about two memories of Don Shula. Man. He never wanted
Speaker 1: to say my name, right, he never went to what
Speaker 1: reminded me, you know, ninety years old, he had the
Speaker 1: most wins in National Football League. Amazing, amazing the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, let's let's remember they started off with
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Colts. Yes, and then after they lost to
Speaker 1: the Jets in that Super Bowl, the next year, he
Speaker 1: got traded to Miami. They gave up a first round
Speaker 1: pick for Don Shula. I had forgotten all about them
Speaker 1: that tried. I do remember him being with the coach
Speaker 1: he actually coached with them as well, right, yes, yes, both, yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely and in fact, all right, he was hired as
Speaker 1: and we need to go to break after this, but
Speaker 1: he was hired in nineteen sixty three at age thirty
Speaker 1: three as head coach of the Baltimore Colts. In thirty
Speaker 1: three years as a head coach in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: Don Shula had two losing seasons, two losing. Some mazing
Speaker 1: in thirty three years. So some great memories there. And
Speaker 1: whenever you mentioned David Shula, always think of Iowa State
Speaker 1: in Barry Switzer letby, we'll tell that story when we
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Speaker 1: Not very much? Bill? Okay, how about you, Everson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting out, guys. I'm sorry. I'm I do a
Speaker 1: lot of jogging. I'm walking with my dog in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: My dog hides from me. Now. He doesn't want to go.
Speaker 1: He every time I grabbed the leaves, he's like peeping
Speaker 1: around the corner. Like I go left, he goes right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What kind of dog do you have? Ever since? Mutt?
Speaker 1: That's what I have? Yea, I have a hide. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm from the hood, Bill, I have mutts. We don't
Speaker 1: really name them. We don't really know what they are.
Speaker 1: We just get them, you know, they're just dogs. What's
Speaker 1: his name? Morley after Bob? Okay, I've got two beagles
Speaker 1: and they're about twelve years old. Now, Bo and Romo. See,
Speaker 1: and you can tell you're not from the hood because
Speaker 1: you know what they are. They're Beagles. I haven't no idea,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, all right, Mickey, would you like to
Speaker 1: tell the story about Dave Shula and Iowa State as
Speaker 1: I could remember it, The Cowboys were getting ready to
Speaker 1: play Cincinnati where Dave Shuel, I mean where Dave Shula
Speaker 1: was the head coach, right, that's nineteen ninety four, Yeah,
Speaker 1: ninety four. Switzer's the head coach of the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: he said something to the effect of, well, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what's did he say? It was like, it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of like we're going to play Iowa State. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals were maybe winless, right, uh Dan,
Speaker 1: it's about sixth week of the season something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember where it was in the season. And
Speaker 1: in this press conference that week, Switzer said, ah, you
Speaker 1: know this is and he didn't he really didn't mean
Speaker 1: anything bad by you know Switzer and whatever enters his
Speaker 1: enters his break to explain this before you. We just
Speaker 1: have to remember Switzer didn't have a filter, okay, right, right?
Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, uh, I think of some similarities with
Speaker 1: someone else, but I won't go out together, so Switzer's said,
Speaker 1: So they say, yeah, you know this is you know
Speaker 1: we we'd have these kind of games when I was
Speaker 1: at OU. You know, you play Ioways State and you
Speaker 1: got to get them ready to play. And uh so
Speaker 1: the postgame handshake after the Cowboys barely squeaked out of
Speaker 1: victory in Cincinnati. You'll call what Dave Shula said that
Speaker 1: you call that handshake there, don't. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was a headshake. It was kind of my head slap
Speaker 1: right right, and he said something like take how's that
Speaker 1: Frialwa State or something. They well, no, he said, you
Speaker 1: can take that Ioways State and yeah, right, yeah, stick
Speaker 1: it somewhere. So wait, wait, so no, the Cowboys won
Speaker 1: the game. No, the Cowboys. So he's bragging about almost
Speaker 1: because they no, No, no, he was he was close.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys had to come from behind to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're still lost. You still know. But he didn't
Speaker 1: say it like Nicky said. He said it like, take
Speaker 1: that Ioways State and stick it somewhere. Yeah they beat
Speaker 1: him twenty twenty three, twenty all right, right, and I'm
Speaker 1: guessing it was the last second, last minute field goal. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just glad they didn't talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: the maturation of of of cows and bulls and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you know, uh, he had
Speaker 1: a little he had a little uh quote about a
Speaker 1: young man not really maturing. Yes, yes, yes, something about
Speaker 1: something happening, something happened, something not something not descending yet,
Speaker 1: something it hadn't descended yet, ain't between him and parcels.
Speaker 1: The PC didn't enter their d And I have to
Speaker 1: say it was great, by the way, can I can
Speaker 1: I say this? You know you're looking at TCU, who
Speaker 1: had a great draft day draft couple of days twenty twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, just great athletes obviously some of the first
Speaker 1: rounders and really notable drafts and notable teams. If you
Speaker 1: have all those draft picks. What the hell happened to
Speaker 1: you a season? Well, the quarterbacks. It goes to show
Speaker 1: that quarterback position is very important, whether it's at the
Speaker 1: NFL level, the college level, high school level, you name it.
Speaker 1: And they were they were not good at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: They needed a backup obviously, right they went They went
Speaker 1: five and seven, They went five and seven. Well, they
Speaker 1: did struggle offensively, so dep uh and that that really
Speaker 1: hurt him. And that's the thing. J Jalen Rager, who
Speaker 1: went to the Eagles first round draft pick, one of
Speaker 1: those guys you're talking about, and that may be one
Speaker 1: of the reasons the Eagles are so excited for Rager
Speaker 1: is that he didn't have much at quarterback at TCU,
Speaker 1: especially as last year there, and he still, you know,
Speaker 1: he has that potential. The other guy, another guy you're
Speaker 1: talking about, Jeff Gladney cornerback who was elate first and
Speaker 1: then Ross Blacklock a defensive tackle to TCU. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: they killed it come draft day, but I was wondering
Speaker 1: the same thing. How'd they go five and seven? And
Speaker 1: the coach is up there bragging like, hey, guys, that
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys out there, you know that
Speaker 1: just let you know the talent we have here at TCU.
Speaker 1: But yet with five and seven, so when you have
Speaker 1: a defense that's still was in good shape, I really
Speaker 1: thought they could have done a lot better than five
Speaker 1: and seven in the Big twelve. All right, Mickey, the draft,
Speaker 1: I mean, the schedule comes out tonight and in fact,
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com you're gonna get a little
Speaker 1: sneak peek of it starting at six thirty tonight, gonna
Speaker 1: get a jump start on the NFL network at seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: So what intrigues you about this schedule? We can run
Speaker 1: down outside of the NFC East, The Cowboys home games
Speaker 1: this year will be against Pittsburgh, Cleveland, San Francisco, Arizona,
Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Road games at Baltimore, Cincinnati, the Rams, Seattle,
Speaker 1: and Minnesota. So I'm wondering, if not not to mention
Speaker 1: cancelations or postponements, but would the COVID thing have any
Speaker 1: effect on the order of games, Like, do you do
Speaker 1: you want to play as many of your division games
Speaker 1: right away? Do you want to push them back in
Speaker 1: case some of the early games get canceled. I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering if any of that has affected the order of
Speaker 1: some of these games early in the season. The one
Speaker 1: the thing that I worry about is the different governing
Speaker 1: states and how they will treat the season itself. You know,
Speaker 1: the even different cities like Los Angeles right now, they're
Speaker 1: not trying to play any games. New Orleans, the Saints,
Speaker 1: you know, they're not trying to have any type of
Speaker 1: big gatherings because of the hot spot that they were in,
Speaker 1: especially last month. What I mean, how can they have
Speaker 1: one governing response because it seems like each city has
Speaker 1: different rules versus another city. I think that's what That's
Speaker 1: what worries me about going from state to state and
Speaker 1: city to city, those road games might be a little
Speaker 1: tricky in regards to what the regulations might be in
Speaker 1: regards to COVID. Well, I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: ended up being based on what happens nationally, because as
Speaker 1: they've talked about even starting the possibility of opening up
Speaker 1: facilities here in the next couple of weeks, it has
Speaker 1: to be a national thing. It can't be state to
Speaker 1: state like well, Texas they don't care. Anybody can go
Speaker 1: out and do what they want. Let the Cowboys practice
Speaker 1: well in New Jersey, they're probably not letting the Giants
Speaker 1: and the Jets. So to make it equitable, it's got
Speaker 1: to be league wide. And I think that if the
Speaker 1: season starts on time, it'll be league wide. The other
Speaker 1: thing I was wondering is you know, you do you
Speaker 1: want to you know push as many of the say
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Rams and forty nine ers home games
Speaker 1: back further and make them go on the road, so
Speaker 1: teams don't have to go into California, or the same thing,
Speaker 1: teams don't have to go into New Jersey that early
Speaker 1: in the season if it starts on time. That's what
Speaker 1: I was kind of wondering about. If any of that
Speaker 1: affects the orders of the games. I think basically, once
Speaker 1: they're ready to go, they're going to be ready to go.
Speaker 1: But I do think that they might. They may look
Speaker 1: at it that way right now as they make out
Speaker 1: the schedule that if you push back, especially the New
Speaker 1: York you know, the two New York teams, you got
Speaker 1: the same thing going on throughout the northeast, really Massachusetts, Um, Buffalo, whatever,
Speaker 1: whether you might start them on the road. But I
Speaker 1: think to answer you the first part of your question,
Speaker 1: do you play more division games early in anticipation? What
Speaker 1: if you had a disruption of the season. I think
Speaker 1: if you had, as a second wave of this, a
Speaker 1: disruption of the season, the chances of resuming the season
Speaker 1: are so remote that just look a look at what's
Speaker 1: going on with the NBA right now. I mean in
Speaker 1: the NHL where it ended March fifteenth, and here we
Speaker 1: are May seventh, and we have no idea whether they're
Speaker 1: going to be able. I mean, it doesn't look good
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to resume. They're although
Speaker 1: they're holding out hope. So I think I think if
Speaker 1: there's as eruption in the season in any way, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a delayed start of the season. More
Speaker 1: so than you know, something happens in November. I think
Speaker 1: something happens in November, it's probably crashed. You know that
Speaker 1: it's not going to resume at any point. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think everyone needs to be ready for.
Speaker 1: A could be a major shift in when we play
Speaker 1: you know, fotball, maybe you know, football maybe moved to
Speaker 1: the winter, you know, instead of the fall. You know,
Speaker 1: baseball could be moved further down the line, maybe with
Speaker 1: an abbreviated season, and then try to catch up again
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. I'm wide open. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: the NFL is as well in regards to what the
Speaker 1: options might be. It would also be interesting to see, how,
Speaker 1: you know, if they do play games, so they're gonna
Speaker 1: put seventy and ninety thousand people in the stadium, they're
Speaker 1: gonna restrict it I'm gonna be mailed. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: mailing in my car. Boy cut out. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you right now, you ain't showing up. I've already gotten mine.
Speaker 1: I've already gotten mine. Yeah, it's already cut out. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, of us two covering games,
Speaker 1: you know you could just say, okay, cover it off
Speaker 1: a TV. You ain't going to games, you ain't traveling
Speaker 1: to games. Um, yeah, that's I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff still up in the air. Again, they are
Speaker 1: talking about phasing in opening the facilities, letting a few
Speaker 1: people in the facilities. I would imagine it would be
Speaker 1: the coaches, and then at some point trying to get
Speaker 1: the players in there. I'm sure we're the last ones
Speaker 1: in the door, right but I do think that they
Speaker 1: have a window there where ye are normally they As
Speaker 1: it stands right now, the Cowboys would be reporting around
Speaker 1: July twenty second or so, since they're in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game on August seventh or whatever that date is.
Speaker 1: I mean, you push it back. Let's say training camp
Speaker 1: started in September, the regular season starts in October. Then
Speaker 1: you're pushing back to where the Super Bowl would be
Speaker 1: played March or whenever. Uh, so they've got a window
Speaker 1: where you can you can slide it back a couple
Speaker 1: of months and still play through the winter months. And
Speaker 1: like you say, you could have, like I said, you
Speaker 1: could have, you can abbreviate the schedule, as you guys
Speaker 1: were saying earlier, let's just get the district the division
Speaker 1: games out of the way. And Uh, if I don't know,
Speaker 1: can they just go on the whim? Can they say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start off divisional games and then schedule more
Speaker 1: during the season stacks? Yeah, I don't know, going to
Speaker 1: be the interesting thing there? Yeah? Great, Bill. And since
Speaker 1: we're we're talking about the future, I ran across this
Speaker 1: on uh NFL dot com. Uh And I don't know
Speaker 1: how they projected this because it's too hard to figure
Speaker 1: out when it's real. But they ended up projecting the
Speaker 1: compensatory picks for twenty twenty one draft. And the way
Speaker 1: they figured it out and the equation takes into so
Speaker 1: many factors on how many guys you lost, how many
Speaker 1: guys you played replaced, how much guys got paid, how
Speaker 1: much you paid your guys to bring them in. But
Speaker 1: whoever did it had the Cowboys coming up with the
Speaker 1: most compensatory picks for twenty twenty one. He was saying,
Speaker 1: or you know whoever figured it out the computer, that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would get four compensatory picks, one each and
Speaker 1: the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth round. So that would
Speaker 1: be a windfall, and it kind of makes the trade
Speaker 1: up for be it as giving up your fifth round
Speaker 1: pick next year insignificant if you get all those picks
Speaker 1: ahead of time. So the Cowboys had the most with four,
Speaker 1: There was a couple of teams with three, and then
Speaker 1: the majority of the teams were projected to get two.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the center ty Or bad As from Wisconsiner,
Speaker 1: they traded up to take the last pick of the
Speaker 1: fourth round. Who do you think is going to be
Speaker 1: the starting center for this team when the season does start? Oh,
Speaker 1: I got a feeling it might be Tyler Biades. And
Speaker 1: if it's not in game one or two, I bet
Speaker 1: by halfway through the season he's the starting center. I
Speaker 1: just think they liked the idea of having Joe Looney
Speaker 1: the backup center guard and if this guy and look
Speaker 1: this guy played guard lad I mean center last year.
Speaker 1: He actually called line shifts. He actually had to call
Speaker 1: out blitzes. You know, no one on the team right
Speaker 1: now before he was drafted had played center in the
Speaker 1: NFL last year, because when Looney play, or at least started,
Speaker 1: he started at guard the one game. So I like
Speaker 1: the fact that this guy had his hand on the
Speaker 1: ball last year and he's got he's got the pedigree
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, yeah, the school he comes from
Speaker 1: and been known for offensive lineman. To me, it's no brainer.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't come in and make an immediate impact,
Speaker 1: I'd be extremely surprised. Fact, I agree that assuming he's
Speaker 1: healthy and he's head some injury issues the last couple
Speaker 1: of years and coming off a shoulder surgery this off season.
Speaker 1: But I think that they're looking at it that Looney
Speaker 1: and Biadas are the center, are at the center position,
Speaker 1: and if Biadas is ready, they go with him. If not,
Speaker 1: then Looney's ready. Looney starts to start the year and beyond,
Speaker 1: you know, and the only reason he wouldn't be ready,
Speaker 1: I think is because he doesn't have the off season
Speaker 1: or an injury. And then you got Williams and McGovern
Speaker 1: battling it out for the left guard spot. And the
Speaker 1: other part of this, Mickey, when you talk about their needs,
Speaker 1: they really haven't replaced Xavier sue a Philo who left
Speaker 1: in free agency, is a veteran inside gay. Well that's
Speaker 1: going to have to be the loser of the begovering.
Speaker 1: William Battle would be the backup guard, I would think, right.
Speaker 1: But but but still, even from an inventory standpoint, you'd
Speaker 1: like to have another veteran guy in there in the mix. Anyway. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe they're looking at this irving guy as that's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Yeah, that's why McClay is the man.
Speaker 1: That's why will McClay is the man. And if he'said
Speaker 1: about it, and go back to Everson's nineteen eighty nine season,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys drafted Mark Stepnowski in the third round. If
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Rafferty started the season in about halfway
Speaker 1: to two thirds through the season. Stepnowski took over because
Speaker 1: they knew he was going to be the future center.
Speaker 1: So ain't going anywhere in this one in fifteen season, right,
Speaker 1: so might as well get him in there and get
Speaker 1: him seasoned for nineteen ninety sore you thinking, what are
Speaker 1: you thinking, old Chand like Rafferty was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think he put up much of a fight. He's like,
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, I have night. Well, you know, the
Speaker 1: safe thing happened to Ed two tall Joe is right
Speaker 1: when they wanted to start Tony Tilbert at the end
Speaker 1: of the season. Yea, and everybody, the media, I said, everybody,
Speaker 1: US media people made a big deal of it because
Speaker 1: it was gonna break Ed's consecutive start streak. Right, So
Speaker 1: with Jimmy figured out, oh okay, this all started, and
Speaker 1: I think it was either the second to the last
Speaker 1: game of the season. They're the last game and and
Speaker 1: Jimmy said, okay, I'll start him, let him play two
Speaker 1: series and I'll get ever been there, right, And the
Speaker 1: funny thing was Ed was like, what's the big deal?
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm not coming back here next year. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But it mattered to us media guys. All right,
Speaker 1: we I think we've lost ever since and Mickey, we're
Speaker 1: out of time on this no of mix shots. A reminder,
Speaker 1: sixth thirty, this evening, six thirty, this evening right here,
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Speaker 1: out that the Cowboys are hosting the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: The regulars. Is that where you're putting your money bill.
Speaker 1: It's going to be okay. That's my only prediction. The
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