WEBVTT - Reset, Regulate, Reclaim: Understanding Your Nervous System 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.960 Welcome to Checking In with Michelle Williams, a production of 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:04.880 iHeartRadio and The Black Effect. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.040 On this next episode of Checking In, We're going to. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.640 Dive into setting the nervous system. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.680 Resetting the nervous system. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.880 We've been seeing this word, at least I've been seeing 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.560 this word a lot on social media. The word is 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:31.520 disregulation and a lot of the disregulation. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.320 That you're feeling or I'm feeling. Guess what, It's not 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.800 your fault. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.159 Stay tuned and as me and my next guest we 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:48.839 talk all things resetting the nervous system. Welcome to another 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.680 episode of Checking In. Yes, I love doing the solo episodes, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:58.400 but I love bringing people in who are just masters 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.279 of various areas that I speak about, people who are 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.560 licensed and credentials, because sometimes I feel like I'm teetering 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.800 on the line of being therapeutic. But I'm like, Nope, 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.080 let's bring the professionals in. And today I have someone 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.640 who is just amazing at what she does. I have 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.399 her book called The Nervous System Reset, and I have 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.400 posted about it a few times and could not wait, 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.360 and I would not bring her on until I read it. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.080 And so I just want wanted to share with y'all. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:39.959 Someone super amazing, Jessica Maguire. She is just just. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:42.160 Awesome. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.600 And the book is called The Nervous System Reset. She 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.200 does have her Bachelor of Health Science a degree and 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:54.240 it's a Master of Physiotherapy now over and outside of America, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.920 it's called physio you know, but you all will get 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.400 to learn in a few minutes what all that is. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.200 She's also the founder of the Nervous System School, where 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:07.880 she teaches a long term, sustainable, transformative methodology of nervous 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:08.720 system repair. 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:10.600 And so I'm. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.640 Happy to have her here to talk everything this regulation, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:19.120 the nervous system, our vagus, nerve and everything. A girl, boy, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.760 calm your nerves. Welcome Jessica Maguire. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.639 Thank you so much for shaw. What a beautiful welcome. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.960 I'm really excited to be here and talking to. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:37.200 You ap subolutely. I've been on an amazing journey of peace, 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.239 not chaos. Even though there's chaos going on around us, 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.160 whether it's chaos in your home, whether it's chaos on 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.280 the news, I want no part. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.160 I think we have to be aware of what's going on. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.000 But I've just been on a journey where even I've 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.200 had people walking my home, women saying, Wow, your house 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:02.959 is so peaceful, and I'm like, it's probably because I 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.320 don't have kids and a dog running around. You know, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.480 that could be, But I really think it's something I 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.079 think that we can talk about. Maybe that can start 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:17.040 from the inside. But as it relates to the nervous system, reset, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.760 what made you dive so deep into this? 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.440 Yeah, it's a brilliant question. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:30.000 My story probably was beginning in twenty seventeen where I 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.000 had my own practice and I saw a lot of 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.080 people with chronic health conditions, so you know, they might 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:43.280 have lower back pain, but then they'd also have digestive issues, anxiety, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.160 and they tell me I'm not sleeping, and I felt 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.880 really limited, like in how I was working with people 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.920 because we've separated body and brain so much. You know, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.960 it's like, well, this is a brain problem or this 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.800 is a body problem. And what I seeing for a 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.320 long time was that no, actually they all present together 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.920 where brain and body are involved, and we're really missing 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:12.720 something important by trying to separate things. So I closed 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.840 down my clinic and decided to take a year to 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.480 look into the nervous system, knowing that it acts as 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:23.440 this bridge between the body and the brain, and looking 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.400 at why people with emotional health also have a lot 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.599 of physical conditions that arise with it, like emotional health 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:37.880 challenges led to physical health challenges. And I was about 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:42.800 to leave and my beautiful older brother Sam passed away, 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.640 and it was a big shock. So I experienced a 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:52.719 lot of dysregulation, had a lot of anxiety from the shock, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.479 and then sometimes I'd feel like I was stuck on 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.920 the couch and couldn't get off to go and. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:00.000 Catch up with peace. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.560 But I took a year and I went right into 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.560 all the research, and then when it came back, it 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.279 began the beginning of. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.599 What's been my life's work for the last. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.240 Six or seven years of teaching. I mostly teach coaches 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.760 and clinicians and practitioners, but I also teach everyday people 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.520 how to support their own nervous system and free themselves 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.960 from all of that suffering that comes emotionally and for 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:31.880 a lot of chronic health issues too. 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:32.600 Wow. 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.800 So it could be the last of a loved one. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:45.839 The emotional weight of grief, unprocessed, not extracted from the body, 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.440 can still live in the body and present itself differently. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.400 Because some people think by the way, losing a loved 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.840 one can be just as traumatic. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:03.960 As physical abuse. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.279 You get like the people think that it has to 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.400 be a bloody car accident. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.880 No, it could be the loss of a loved one exactly. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:19.640 Yeah, And I think we probably don't consider, you know, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.360 when we think of things that might be a traumatic experience. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.360 It's like you said, it could be People think like 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.320 a car accident or an assault, or you know, a 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:33.760 major disaster. But what counts more as traumatic stress is 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:40.720 when we feel helpless, hopeless, powerless, like experience it's too 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.240 much for us to process. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.560 Mmmmm hmm. That's so good. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.920 Like I was just talking with someone, even when I 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.640 think about the phone call when my dad, when I 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.080 found out my dad passed, I'm sitting over a brunch, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:59.080 But what it did to the body, you know, I didn't. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.880 You would have thought I saw him, pat I didn't. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:03.760 I'm way away, you know. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.320 So I hope this episode encourages people to maybe take 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.440 a look back at things that have happened. Maybe you 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.400 were bullied in school, and you're like, that happened when 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.400 I was seven years old. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.400 I'm forty years old or I'm thirty years old. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.240 Now that can't possibly still be causing certain things and 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:21.600 you never know. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:23.560 It very well could be. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.560 I like when you said every one of us has 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.400 an internal set point at which we feel and function 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.040 our best, like a thermostat in a house. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:37.120 Our brain and body work together via our nervous system. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.600 I thought that was absolutely it's so practical. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.679 Exactly, and it gives us an understandstanding that the house 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.240 can be too hot that we're living in, and that's 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.560 where we might be agitated anxious, like a lot of 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.120 mobilizing energy in our system. Or it can be like 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.760 the house is too cold and we feel immobilized, flat 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.520 and shut down, and that's that set point is based 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.480 on a few things, largely the vagal tone or the 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.560 health of our vegus nerve in helping us recover from 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:17.000 and cope with stress. And also you touched on this before. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.880 Our brain works as a prediction machine and it predicts 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.400 what's going to happen next more so than respond. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.120 To so good. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.000 Now you said something, you know, I didn't learn about 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.080 this until you know I've been I was, you know, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.079 got to therapy, have set with the psychiatrist and a 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.520 psychologist as well. Somebody's probably listening saying okay, she said 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:46.000 something vague, not last vegas the vegas nerve. 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.040 Yeah, the vegas nerve. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.960 What is the vegas nerve, Jessica. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.280 So we have nerves, and these are nerves that connect 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.920 basically the brain and the body a little bit like 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.040 a bridge. And this is what got me really interesting 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.200 in that kind of because it really shows the connection 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.680 between emotional healths, physical health, but even relational healths, like 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:20.120 how we connect. So the vaguus nerve is out a 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.480 cranial nerve, and if you ran your hand down the 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.760 back of your head, you would feel there is your 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.800 brain stem or that lower part there, and that's where 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.120 it starts. And then it's got a branch that comes 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:35.280 to the heart and the lungs, and that part is 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.760 what slows us back down, regulates us, keeps our physiology 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:40.280 in check. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.400 So it connects to the heart's pace maker. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.360 And then we've got another branch going from the brain 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.440 stem under our diaphragm and it spreads out like a 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:54.840 big vine and it touches almost every organ in our 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:02.760 throx or our trunk, and it's relaying really important information 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:07.000 between the body and the brain. So things like the gut, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.000 brain access it can. The vegas nerve can send like 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:15.199 almost instantaneous messages from the gut up to the brain. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.360 And the really interesting thing. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.240 About the vegas nerve is that eighty percent of its 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.040 communication is running from the body up to the brain. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.000 So we have come from this really top down society 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.000 of like, well, if I can think different, then I 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:33.720 feel better. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.600 But it's not always true. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.120 So a lot of how we feel is from the 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.320 sensory information traveling up from our body and then the 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.559 prediction that the brain is making based on that information 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.360 from our body. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.240 Someone could also be listening say I've never dealt with traumba. 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.040 I don't even know what depression feels like, do you, 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.439 But do you still feel like even the most healthy 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.239 or because they could be dissociating disassociating by the way, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:09.199 it could be that too. But you know, even the 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.280 most healthy person, you have a vagus nerve. You have 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:19.040 to have some type of regulation of the nervous system. 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:24.080 And so your book also lets people know that nothing 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.520 is necessarily wrong with you. You're not a bad person. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.600 You're worthy of love and a healthy life, a good job, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:37.920 great relationships, but just knowing when to be in tune 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.480 when you're like, something is not right. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.000 I'm more irritated. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:49.600 I'm agitated more than I should be, even i'm reading 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.320 to in the book, just your responses to things. How 0:11:54.360 --> 0:12:01.120 does a person know when I guess the nervous system 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.600 needs to be reset. 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.160 It's a great question. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.160 And it's also interesting because we might go through phases 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.840 where we're like, well, you know, I don't have any 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.520 of these things to be concerned about. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.559 But then we might have a. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.079 Situation in our life that drops us down into that 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:28.080 collapse and hopelessness, and you know, it's almost like a burnout. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:34.480 So and I think most people after COVID and the year, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.160 the last few years that we've had, it has been 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.199 a really disregulating time. But how we might see this 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:50.200 show up is we could recognize the anxiety that is 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.400 often there if we're more in that too hot state, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.880 you know, where we're like, yep, well I often feel anxious. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:01.720 I don't sleep, I have some digestive issues like that's 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.800 another big one. And then we can also see it 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.160 in the immune system. So somebody might be experiencing things 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.880 like chronic pain, they might notice their skin health isn't 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.600 so great. Lots of ways that shows up, but a 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.520 really big one is relationships. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.600 So this is where we might find ourselves. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.520 Storming off, slamming doors, you know, arguing wanting the attention, 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:32.120 or even arguing with people online and we just can't, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:33.400 you know, pull ourselves back. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.280 So that's the too hot But for the too cold person, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.640 it's really this sense of like helplessness. You know, there's 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.520 a there's like no matter what I do, it's not 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.800 going to work out. That's that's a big one. Or 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:54.400 even with enough sleep, still feeling exhausted, fatigued, foggy. And 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.200 you know, we think a lot of it is about 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.840 more willpower with things like burnout, but it certainly about 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.720 physiology and the system. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:14.600 Yeah, it's interesting when you're talking about, like say, digestive issues. 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.120 I was as young as seven years old, and I 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.040 don't know if this is something, if it's a trait, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.040 you know, how a person deals with fear or anxiety. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.440 I'll never forget being bullied at school, but I hadn't 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.400 told my parents what it was. I would just go 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:38.160 home with a stomach ache, no appetite. And as you're talking, 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:43.400 I'm wondering, even as young as that age, how our 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:49.560 body chooses almost how to respond to dysregulation or not 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:54.400 being safe the digect until this day, if I'm anxious 0:14:54.400 --> 0:15:00.440 about something, no appetite, no, and so I I find 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:06.440 it fascinating how people I don't know if it's a trait, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.800 like I wish I could say I want ice cream 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:17.800 first as not being hungry, So. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:19.600 Go ahead. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.880 I think it does present. I think it does present 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:26.480 differently for different people in systems. So I'm similar to 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.440 you very much digestive system impacted. And for other people 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:36.600 that will recognize like the breatholding, you know, the and 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.200 then other people will be more impacted by sleep. So 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.720 you know, we could say that's our makeup, our constitution, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:49.200 where we have more ways that we are impacted by stress. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.320 And I think it's. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.840 Interesting that you can remember that because for many children 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:02.120 I think, who have had developments too trauma or it 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.560 could be you know, chronic stress, or it could be 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:11.800 significant stresses in their childhood. Sometimes they grow up to well, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.840 number one, we see an increase with some chronic illnesses 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.840 from adverse childhood experiences as adults. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:20.280 But then there's that. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.240 Loss of being able to trust their bodily signals. So 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.760 like the gut is not just about our physical health. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:32.480 It's also a really rich source of what we call 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:38.080 interceptive information or ours in a system telling us what's up. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:42.840 It's like listening to our gut. So to come back 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:48.760 to regulation throughout our life is essentially what's teaching us 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.600 to trust our inner voice in our bodily signals. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:52.840 And so good. 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.000 Yeah, I don't think we've got it right when we 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.280 say the antidote to anxiety is about being calm. It's 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.760 actually about trusting that deep inner voice and being able 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:06.840 to act on it too. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:07.439 You know. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.040 It's not about well, I've got to calm down. It's 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:15.200 actually about what's happening and what you need to take 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.879 care of my physiology, my emotions, or the whole being 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:19.480 that I am. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.479 What are there some of the common myths about how 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:30.399 a person should go about resetting the nervous system. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.840 Wow, this is a good one. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.480 I think the biggest one that's a challenge is like 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.720 we can just hack it, you know, and do one 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.320 thing and then our nervous system is okay. A lot 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.800 of this for people is actually being able to have 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.760 a new sensory experience when we're really challenged. So it's 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.119 like say you're in the face of something today. All right, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.560 let's say your example of when you were bullied from 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.840 school and you go into a situation today where there's 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.840 somebody who has more power, there's conflict, there's tension, and 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:10.199 you could feel yourself clam up, collapse your belly titans. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.920 In that moment. Now, we repeat these patterns in. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.800 Our body, and that's a lot of the time why 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.520 we repeat the same things, like in relationships, in different 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:26.080 scenarios because of that prediction our brain makes. But if 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.240 you can have a new compelling sensory experience where you 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:34.160 move yourself to regulation, your brain and nervous system will 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.320 predict in the future that you have agency, you have choice, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.960 And that's like stepping back and saying, yes, I've got this, 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:41.480 I'm not. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:42.240 Going to collapse. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:47.640 So that is the real training of the nervous system, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.920 and it's something we call neuroplasticity, like to be able 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.880 to change it. Yes, this is where I would say 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.000 we can't hack the nervous system. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.840 Like we hear a lot about hacks and quick fix, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:00.679 it's about. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:05.159 It's more about in the hate of the moment, we 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.760 are the most plastic and if you have any experience, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:10.680 we change. 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.399 Yes. The thing I love about neuroplasticity is that it 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.400 is so empowering. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:17.920 Now. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.000 It takes time and some practice. You're not It takes you. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.240 It takes progress, not perfection. You're not gonna get it 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.240 right off the bat. But when you talk about plastic 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:33.480 and plastic, it's pliable. It can change, it can do 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.040 all the things. And so as you're talking to talking 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:40.040 to me about right now, I have faced some things, 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.399 even in my thirties and forties, where I've had to 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.200 tell myself, You're not that seven year old girl anymore. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:52.119 You're safe. You can make this decision with power. You 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.640 can say yes, and you can or you can say no. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.120 You can take the risk. No one's here to beat 0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:58.720 you up. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:00.760 Exactly. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.400 Sometimes you're just trying to get a deal done. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.720 They need an answer today's. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.800 You know, but how many of us, with the dysregulated 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.080 nervous system, even just making the decision do you want 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.760 pizza or a hot dog? 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.639 And you get so overwhelmed? 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.679 Totally true, you know. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.200 I think a big part of that where we sometimes 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.560 forget that the story that's running, or the narrative that runs. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.600 We think, all right, if I can work with the story, 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.000 then I'm okay, like if I can. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:33.720 Work with limiting. 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:37.400 But a lot of this, the stories and the beliefs 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.280 are coming from the state of the nervous system. 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.760 So you say, like, story follows state. So if we go, okay, 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:46.800 what state am I in? 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.639 It's like I'm looking at life through one pair of glasses, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.360 you know, with one particular team. As I come back 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:58.240 to regulation, I can actually see the truth of the 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.199 dynamics of like what you're saying. 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.040 You know, there's a deal to be done. I'm an adult. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.560 This is actually what is going on. It's not the part. 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:11.400 And it's also like this sense of self. So our 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.840 nervous system and our sensory information makes up our sense 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:16.399 of self. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.520 So who we see ourselves as. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.480 As in any given moment is carried out through the 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.800 nervous system. So there's no point trying to debate and 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.520 argue and reason and use logic. It's a lot more 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:34.560 about shifting to a state that's our true nature, not 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:40.359 the self that you know still feels hopeless and helpless 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:41.119 and powerless. 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.320 So good, so good, and y'all yes. In the book, 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.159 she has. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.960 Many ways of the Part two of the book says, 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:55.000 I think resetting the nervous system, right, because when you've 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.760 got to go through the science, you've got to go 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.600 through the practical situations that you have probably faced in 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:04.800 your life. Now Part two, you're wondering, wow, I identified 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:08.439 myself in part one. How can I get myself in 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:12.879 a state of practicing because as resetting the nervous system, 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:14.560 because I think as long as we're human and we're 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.040 dealing with people, things are. 0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:19.560 Going to happen. 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.719 I love that you talk about even something as simple 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.960 as how we sit in a chair with our arms down, 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:35.239 you know, down to probiotics, the gut health, how that 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:40.320 has a lot to do with here mental health for 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:45.000 you know, just for people to understand and in your 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.080 own work. I'm so glad that you even told your 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.200 own story about what you've had to do and now 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.800 it is your life's work. So in part two we're 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.960 getting to resetting the nervous system. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.240 Is that something you still practice today? Do you step 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.840 to say okay to prage two eighty two of my 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:11.119 book or people that you love as well? 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:17.280 Yeah, yes, Look this is so deeply ingrained in me. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.120 Now it's really a big part of how I live, 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.000 so you know, I think I think a big part 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.760 of nervous system health is about stepping into things that 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.720 are a stretch for us because. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.480 It's so great for us. 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.320 It's like you know, if you go to the gym 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.800 and you lift weights, eventually you need to lift a 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:42.320 little bit heavier to challenge yourselves. Yeah, and so I 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.080 think for the nervous system, it's great if we can 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:49.399 step into the places that are challenging for us. Not 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.959 that we push ourselves to be protective, but you know 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:57.879 that still scare us. And then true, I think of 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.840 like the ups and downs over the last you know, 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:04.440 six seven years since really getting more into this work, 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:09.240 like with a pandemic, Like I've shifted a lot with 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:16.359 my focus of work that's required, you know, growing the 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:20.399 relational aspects of life are always challenging, like no one's 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:25.239 born this innate relation or wisdom we learn and just 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:30.399 continuing to undo some of those moments where like you 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.080 you know, we go back to being very young and small, 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:39.400 like I lost my younger brother as well at four, 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.360 and a lot of things came up for me around 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.840 the fear of things falling apart and having to have 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.639 that control so it's just it's just being able to 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.760 undo more and more of those layers, and we can 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.640 start to see that play out. You know, we use 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.320