WEBVTT - Episode 218 "Ray Daniels" 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.480 Um, worry with me here, you know, BT, it's just 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:07.960 so low. Shout out, O c T no color? What 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.960 we see? How game about the beth You can't stand 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.280 on the suci. I already know he came by with 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.040 me because you have up with the squad of me. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:25.239 They get they called mel allttle wasn't to the Bottler 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.680 Show podcast. I go by the name of Ferrari Simmons. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.480 I go. You know, bet that the best special special 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.680 special guests in the building, right, Dames, we snap, we 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:40.280 snap whatever whatever what? She just came alive. But I 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.280 love it. Let's go. Let's go. Happy to be here, man, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.120 let's have some fun to speak. We're gonna we don't 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.920 get into your personal stuff in a second, but we 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:48.199 need you to host the show with us. Does that 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:50.520 come here? Man, Let's talk about a plethora of things. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.239 Anytime he called me, I'm coming. Okay. Shout out to 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:58.600 Ferrari on his birthday, My brother, happy birthday? About you again, 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.840 I'll talk to her. Look, I like that tennis necklace 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:10.520 you get on. That's cool. Okay. TV for the weekend, 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.000 The Upshaw starting starring Mike Epps, Kim Fields and one 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.520 of the sexist back on Netflix. Are you guys going 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.560 to watch that? Yes, I don't have time to watch 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.880 TV like that, but I will. You know, my kids 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.640 do watch it, and I pay for the Netflix, so 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.240 I feel like i'm supporting. Do you share your passwords? 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.840 Oh no, no, no, I've like twenty five TVs in 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.959 my house, all of my TV TV get into that second. 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.840 He has a very big house. It's not I'm not 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.120 even saying it like that. I'm just saying I have, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.200 Like I think I grew up on TV. Everything I 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.440 learned was from TV or music, So you know, I 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.520 want my kids have access. So yeah, my kids watch 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.280 it all day, so I pay for the Netflix, So 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.160 I'm supporting. Okay, salute salute Bernard Boyd, Thams and Rema 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.280 bringing Afrobeats to the two thousand three NBA All Star 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.040 Game half show. Can we get some snatch for that. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.960 I don't think I've ever seen an Afro beat halftime show. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.520 I've never seen that Afro halftime show that's coming to 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.880 the NBA All Star But I don't love how popular 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.000 their music is. Becoming black is in style, Brothers, you 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.280 gotta pay attention. Not only is it black, is African Africa. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.679 This is super fire, especially Burnt Let's get it. I 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.440 love his new stuff. Are you guys gonna watch the 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.840 NBA All Star Game? They always watching NBA All Star 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.840 I like how the afros a little bit more Afro 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.480 centric the NBA is than the NFL. Well, the NBA 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.560 they understand their fan base. NFL they understand their fan base. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.280 So you know what I mean. Well, you know, the 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.760 NF the NBA has been dominated by black people, so 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.080 they understand their fan base. And not only that, if 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.840 you look at it, the NBA players, you know, you 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.840 can see their face on the court, right, you can 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.639 see them. NFL players everybody got on helmets, so they're 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.520 cheering for the helmet. They're not cheering for the faces. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.960 You know. In the most important position in the NFL 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.920 is quarterback, and you know most of them are. And 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.240 for the first time ever, we finally had to black 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:58.560 African American players playing. Well, you know, I think I 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.320 think we should get Michael Vick Moore pro. You know 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.560 a lot of these guys are old enough, these guys 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.720 at the age where they was like kids seeing Michael 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:06.720 Vick run the ball. And now, if you pay attention 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.480 to the to the way it works. They're old now, 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.840 so now they're like man, they was seven, eight, nine, 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.000 ten years old and Vic was running. So now these 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.040 guys figured out I could be a quarterback. So we 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.640 have that, we have that thing happening now. So I'm excited. Alright, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.639 if you gotta see Rihanna and right, y'all see how 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.440 Asap was like holding them. It was hard. That was artistic. Man, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.840 that was dope. Stop. No, you didn't like it, right, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.320 I think that. I think that now. Wait, so you 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.080 did not like it and said I didn't like it. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.960 Anytime I see black people being celebrated, I love it. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.400 But you can tell when there's an agenda being pushed 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.120 on us, you know, and the guy is being he's 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.360 following the woman, and the woman is leading the family 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.280 and the guys holding the baby in his hand. The 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.120 man should always be the leader of the family because 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.640 he's the person that protects people, so he should be 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.160 in the front because that's what his job is, to 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.760 protect his family. But you know, that's a whole nother story. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:08.160 So you didn't you didn't like where he security. You 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.600 were not an agreeiance with the positioning of the I'm 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.560 not gonna say I'm not in agreeance. I'm gonna say 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.000 that I think that there's a slight agenda being pushed 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.720 and I think that that fits the narrative. And you know, 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.200 if that was my family, I would have been in 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.080 the front. I don't mind holding the baby, but I 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:26.880 feel like the man should always be in the front 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.440 leading because that's the man's job is to protect and 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.919 lead his family. Don't you feel that way. I do 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.040 feel that way. However, in that specific look, if it's 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.760 a Rihanna, it's a Rihanna thing, and maybe she included me, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.600 then I'm gonna fall and I'm gonna guarantee her thing. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.240 Guarantee you if they said, if astap said this, how 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.120 it goes, they were sure whatever they had to go. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.000 They is it a vote covert? When the last time 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.000 every featured on that, When the last time anybody had 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:56.680 cared m who's on the last one's vote? Do you 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.240 know that anybody? Okay, we a little MoU before that. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.760 It's just it's just heightened right now because she just 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.440 did Super Bowl, so all these promotions are coming out. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.719 You know what I'm saying. I love it like I 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.920 love Rihanna, like dog, I've made a lot of money 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.640 with rock Nation. I'm not it's not that, but I'm 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.520 saying I just you know, it's like when you see 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.560 commercials and you're like, damn that see agenda? Now you 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.640 could just tell and you see commercial and you see 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.600 the kind of couples they pushing in front of us, like, Okay, 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.279 I see agenda. I can acknowledge the agenda. I might 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.280 not like it, but I gotta respect it, especially one 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.760 as my people. So are you a big sports causer? 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.400 Big sports? They got know just so much about sports music. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.480 It is time for players ball. I'm a foul up. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.880 Kevin Love to get bought out? Kevin Love from the 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.080 Cleveland Capitalers get bought out, Yes, even though he was 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:46.120 still playing. I didn't either. You dumped on them last season. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.720 This season that bro, you're coming off the bench after 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.200 you don't want he won his chip in sixteen coming 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.400 off no bench. Damn. That's the first Kevin Love headline 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.960 I've seen all year, Isn't it? Isn't that the different 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.280 like they're not they're not relevant. Cleveland is really good 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:03.960 this year. Yes, but they got some young guys on that. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.120 That's my point. But it's like, Bro, you you're the 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.839 old g and you played with Lebron. Bro, you're supposed 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.239 to be be coming off the bench. No, he's getting old. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.600 Everyone does not have Lebron James longevity. All Right, We 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.640 then retire because, like Ray said, we ain't heard about 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.279 Kevin Love since he got dunked on and we ain't 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.040 inside that. But he said that, But I would just 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.919 say I've heard about Kevin Love this season. Alright. I 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.440 didn't say that, but I want you let's get you 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.800 guys here about Michael Jordan makes making a massive donation 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.240 on the sixtie birthday, which is February seventeenth day after 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.279 my uh thoting ten million dollars to make a Wish Foundation, 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.520 the largest from an individual in their forty three year history. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.720 I think it should be Louder Way louder. I think 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.480 they all. I think they try to allow Jordan as 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.520 a villain out here, like he doesn't gave. You make 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.039 Jordan's seem like he's a villain. And I've heard a 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.320 lot of villain stories about Jordan's soul. I think Jordan 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.360 made itself to be the villain. No, Jordan's said, I 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.560 don't want to be a role model at that. He don't. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.560 I don't think he said that. He said, Barkley said 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.719 it that I'm not kind of any kind of agreed 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.960 join Jordan's kind of you know Jordan, he don't, he don't. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.360 He don't get into politics or anything politics. And the 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.480 funniest stories when when Chamillionaire of talking about that story 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:23.120 where he bought Michael Jordan's and he seen him and 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.800 he said, oh man, you know, you know get uh. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.200 I think he asked for a picture Michael Jordan, I 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:34.400 will take pictures with niggas and he turned around, Hey, 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.240 I don't think Lebron would ever do that. Shut up man. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.080 Tom Brady reportedly has a plan to win back his 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.440 wife just said he was supposed to start a Fox 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.320 Sports job this year. However, he would rather begin in 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.040 two thousand twenty four as he hopes to get some downtime. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.080 What do you guys think about that? I said, Tom, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.200 get you go get your family back, or maybe maybe 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:56.760 Tom want to be a thought for the rest of 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.520 the year. What are you talking about. I think any 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.520 time a man wants his family back, I'm all about 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.800 family and family structures. So go get your family back. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.240 I support that completely. I don't have no I mean, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.600 you know, you could kind of tell what happened. He 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:14.440 probably didn't want She probably was, you know, unretired. Lad, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.280 that's when the divorce happened. Yeah, so obviously they definitely 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.880 probably had that conversation like you go do this then 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.640 and she got probably and then I hear that she's 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.520 worth more than him, so she has you know, she's 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:25.920 a big deal. We have. When we had an episode 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.160 about that, Chapelle say he said jay Z got fuck 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.720 you money, but Beyonce got fuck you two money, so 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.679 to money. So yeah, let's take a quick commercial break. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.160 We got Ray Daniels in the bid and we're gonna 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.480 pick his brain talk to him when we get back 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.840 right here with the Ball Show. We'll be right back 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:50.280 with more of the Baller Alert Show. You're listening to 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.079 a special edition of The Pallor Alert Show. What if Everybody? 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.439 This is Ray Daniels and I'm kicking it with my 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.959 good friends at the ball Alert Show. And we were 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.680 back with the ball Alert Show podcast available everywhere you 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.000 get your podcast. Ray Dames is in the building. Can 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.240 we get some snaps from my guys, Big, big, big, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.520 big deal that you're here, sir, I don't know about that. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.440 I love I love when you Bradley Stike. You please now, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.840 I got a quick story those me. Maybe I don't 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.280 even know if you remember this. I met you. I 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.280 was I had just graduating college maybe a year, and 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.319 I was throwing parties. I didn't want to get a 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.880 day job, like, man, I'm just throw some parties. Charge 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.800 people at the door to the dug me Dave Mato, 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.280 my Hatto and um My Dog cooked, and you brought 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.440 rock City. You Bitty Barnes brought Rock City to Tampa, 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.360 and um I was hosting d J was djan And 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.400 that's the first time I met you. And then when 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.080 I saw you guys, I was like, man, I gotta 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.800 move to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta and I will 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.680 slip your intern for what maybe ten months, I didn't 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:54.640 even know that. I didn't know either. Yeah, yeah, I 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.200 was doing Street Team and all types of ship and 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.880 then um we started linking. And then I've known you. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.440 I always liked you. You and Dave like to my 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.320 favorite people that I've met period, Like in the game, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:10.240 you've actually saw me come from zero. Yeah, and I's 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.400 and I'm and I'm and when you hit me, I 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.079 was like, you were working in Scope at the time. Correct, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:17.800 he was signed the inter Scope. I think I was 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.400 working for Motown at that time. Town. Yeah. Please bragging 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.160 yourself a little bit. I don't know, to be honest 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.280 with you, I don't know how to brag on myself. Okay, well, okay, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.840 how to raise days? Get a start? Um? Somebody asked 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:30.760 me to help them that I went to high school with, uh, 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.920 a young musician. Yeah, he was an artist, artist, producer, writer. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.440 He wanted me to help him. So, uh, he said 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.360 to me, since we were in seventh grade, I always 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.040 talked and people listening. So I was working a regular 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.880 nine of five. I was trying to figure my life out. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.120 So when he asked me to help him, I was like, 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:46.680 maybe this is a guy want me to do. And 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.920 I jumped in head first. Um, and that guy didn't 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.160 make it and I'm here, So that was what God 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.040 wanted me to do. You just you, just you, you 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.640 just not even give me some more. So well you know, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.280 because okay, so let me tell what it is. Let's 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.920 sell what is so let me get an example. I 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.800 feel like we all at this table of dreamers right, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.400 And I think we all are like, I don't think 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.720 our parents understand what we're doing. You know what I'm saying, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.280 streamers right, Okay? So you know, for me, we all 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.280 we all are here because we had a dream. And 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.520 I'm pretty sure all of us have met someone that 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.960 we looked up to and got in the room with 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.720 him and was like, how the fund did they get? Right? 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.920 So my thing is, I think a lot of us 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.480 brag on what we do when we should open our 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:28.920 mouth and when you're hear us talk, you can know 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:30.760 what we do. So I don't really know how to 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:32.680 brag on what I do. I just talk about what 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.560 I do. And I think people tend to figure out 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.640 like rock City, this nigga know his ship rock City? Yeah, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.800 and then who's next? Uh, Well, I built city. I 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.520 built rock City. I worked at in Epic and I 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:48.760 worked with Sierra. What was your job? And UM shout 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.960 out to l A read love that guy. UM left 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.000 Epic to go to in the Scope? Was that in 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.360 the Scope? And then when was your job at in 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.600 the Scope? Vice Presidency? And UM left in the Scope 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.520 because I quit in the Scope because I felt like 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.000 they were I just didn't like the way. It felt 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.400 like collecting the check and not being able to do anything, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.200 and I feel like being you know us all being here. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.079 I didn't. My dream wasn't to make money. You know, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.400 money is a by product of being successful. My dream 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.280 was to be someone, and I just felt like they 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.559 were paying me to be someone that I didn't want 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.760 to be. So I quit. Uh. Then I went in 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.280 to work at Warner Uh. And you know, I did 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.319 pretty good there. I made him a lot of money. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.280 I did you know? I did Sweeties best Friend record? 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.880 Did Sweeties tap in? Sign Eneli Choppola signed rmble Uh? Yeah, 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.920 I put. I put all of you married him a 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.800 lot of money on the board. But then, you know, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.240 you start realizing as you work at these companies that 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.800 they want your influence, they just don't want your voice. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.720 So I decided to just I started a new company 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.679 called l y I, which stands for Leverage your Influence. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.120 And I decided to bet on myself. And here I 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.599 am simple as that. You still manage one of the 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.840 biggest songwriters in the country. One Record of the Year 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.319 at the Grammys with Lizzo's About Damn Time and you 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:58.880 can't wait to put the plaque up for that one. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.560 Uh a lot man, we got, I mean connotes a 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.280 lot of those biggest record, big energy. Um Man, it's 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.040 so crazy because I don't really know how to watch 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.240 my work. I just do the work. And for me, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.160 it's like when you. I feel like most of us 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.600 lose because we're so busy watching I work, waiting for 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.360 a celebration that happened, and I don't live by that creed. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.720 I live by this. I'm the same You know this. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.760 You've been my friend for over fifteen years. I'm the 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.680 same person I was from the minute I came in. 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.920 The minute that I changed that thought process is the 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:28.600 minute that I lose it all the minute that I 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.240 walked like I mean no, every day I wake up 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.320 willing to earn my keep. Every day I wake up 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.960 willing to do the work. And good ship happened for me. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.360 Live ba. My mom ain't worked in ten years, and 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:47.440 I ain't won't never work, damn never mansion. Yeah, my 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.440 mom living the mansion, driving a nice range of but 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.400 everything paid off. My mom ain't gonna never work a 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.280 day in the life. And that's because of what we've 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.280 done in the music business. So I honor that process. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.360 How do you feel about when artists have of shoes 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.200 when they're talking about their contracts being signed to a label. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.280 I talked about this a lot. I think that I 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:07.840 think you gotta take the good with the good, the 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.720 battle with the battle with anything in life. I think 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.640 that Lebron James we just talked about, I think Lebron 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.520 James is underpaid and he makes more money than probably 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.960 everybody on his team right. So for me, it's just 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.480 the way of the world. You gotta if you're an artist, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.360 you knew what you were signed, and you took the check. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.560 You knew that you knew how much was in it 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.280 for you. I see a lot of artists. It's so 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:27.960 crazy because when I try to do deals an artists, 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.400 I'm always the first question every artist asking for saying 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.880 how much money? I'm like, why does that matter? Let 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.720 me tell you why. Because my first year in the 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.560 music business, I mean my first year, oh five, I 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.200 made like seventy eighty tho dollars That money was going 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:42.880 by the end of the year. So that means I 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.120 gotta make more money oh six, oh seven, oh eight, 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.800 And here we are in two thousand twenty three. I'm 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.120 still making more money. And the reason why it's because 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.000 I honored my word and honor the process, rather than saying, damn, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.920 I should be making more. Damn, I should be this. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.960 When I did what I did for Warner, I made 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.720 him a whole lot of money. I could have stayed 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.040 there and been like yo, but no. If the way 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.680 guy worked it out, it was different. I could have 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.320 went and begged for a job. But I know me 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.960 enough to know my damn like. It's like Sean, like 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.600 for Ferrari, no Ferrari. Since he was, you know, since 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.600 I was, I have named my phone Sean. There is 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.240 a thing. Whether he worked at Streets, whether he worked 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.440 at V, whether he works at ball Alert, wherever he is, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.000 I still see Sean. And he called me I'm coming. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.880 I don't get so you've never told me no come, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.440 and my thing is bt same thing ever y'all ever 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.480 called me I'm coming. So the reason why is because 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.400 it doesn't matter what brand you work for. It don't 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.720 matter you are the brand. And once I figured that out, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.200 I was like, Damn, I could I could be the 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.360 guy that represents Warner. I could be the guy that 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.000 represents in the scope. I could be the guy that 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.120 represents epic. I could be the guy that represents my 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.040 fucking self and I'll take the good, the good, the 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.600 bad with the bad that come with that. And that's 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.000 just where I'm at with it. So my companies called 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.400 y because I wanted people to see their influence. I 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.320 want people to see themselves, like with all of us 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.920 out here chasing money when we should be building value 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.520 and leveraging that value for ourselves. So that's so, you know, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.480 that's why I'm at with it. Man. So when you're 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.560 building value, you can't focus on what you did because 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.080 you gotta wake up and build with value tomorrow. Got 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.080 to build value the next day. I take the weekends 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.520 off when i'm with my kids because I gotta be 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.880 normal at some time. But yeah, my only goal is 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.120 waking up building value, and that's it. That's what I've 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.160 been doing. Speaking of value, what do you think about 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:25.240 everybody selling their publisher? Now, um, that's a good question. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.760 I think it's a so I think it's a good idea. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:35.080 Uh became a multimillionaire off those deals, so I'm never 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.520 gonna say it's a bad deal. But here's a good part. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.800 We sold a piece of we sold part of our 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.640 catalog that was from oh seven of two thousand fifteen, right, okay, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.920 we sold that, But Nigga two thousand fifteen to two 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:51.600 thousand twenty, we did more records, more hits, Lizzo, Sierra, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.720 every DOJ cat got out of that deal. Now we're 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.720 in a new deal and we got hits with Lizzo, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.600 Cardi everybody. I'm a worker. I don't you know how 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.120 to look at it? And I look at it. I 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.399 have a theory and it's gonna sound disgusting to you, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:05.919 but this is how I just want to be honest. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.000 I'll tell me. I wanted to tell me your name, Octavia. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.120 Nice thing. If somebody came to Octavia said I want 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.840 to buy a couple of your piss, you would sell 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:21.480 it right get like, where is this going? No, you wouldn't. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.440 I don't know, Tavia. Somebody came here and said me 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.280 get a thousand US for your piss, You're not gonna 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.119 say what are you gonna do with it? Like what 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.800 I'm gonna use the restroom right now? I'm actually gonna 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.960 do that. Okay, So I'm not gonna just sell my 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.639 whatever like that's DNA you flush it down the toilet, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.639 but you flush it every day. So my thing is this, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.880 So I couldn't work with you then because you don't 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.200 see the world why I do it. What I see 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.320 it is is you're gonna piss them all. I'm gonna 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.280 piss four or five times a day. So somebody wanna 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:47.919 buy a couple of piss. I'm a pist today. I'm 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:49.760 a piston. Momna keepiss. I'm never gonna stop as long 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.520 as I'm alive, I'm gonna use the restroom. So if 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:52.919 you want to buy it, I'm gonna sell it. So 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.800 as long as you're going, you're fine. Now. If you're 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.760 gonna stop, then that's different. Now it's like, man, I 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.000 don't know again, I'm gonna sell it. Okay, cool, that's 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.600 what it's worth something. But as long as you're gonna 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.919 pis tomorrow, then who cares. So for me, it's like 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.840 sell your catalog for two reasons, either because you continue 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.200 to go or you decided you want to stop. And 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.840 it's that simple, you know it's But if you're doing 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.960 it to make a check, that shouldn't be gone tomorrow 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:24.160 because money goes fast. Um, can you talk about your podcast? 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.240 You started the podcast. Yeah, I don't like your podcast. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.000 You be talking that I didn't even know I started. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.800 I didn't even know I started the podcast. Just start first, 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.720 you you first star, just started talking on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.680 that's what I really did. Then then it came came 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.879