WEBVTT - Brainwash and Repeat (with Bianca Cristovao)

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's what's sad for me is uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't relax my hair and I'm still doing the same

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<v Speaker 1>ship you do. So what the funk happened to me?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Like you have brain damage,

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<v Speaker 1>that's clear from the relaxer. But me, I maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just fucked up from the beginning. That's even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe since you know it all started with the loop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe these loobes, these various things I was using to

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<v Speaker 1>jerk off, we're apparently also frying my brain somehow racist

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<v Speaker 1>money stuff I can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep. There

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<v Speaker 1>it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove that logic

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<v Speaker 1>is black in the same way that McDonald's is serving

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<v Speaker 1>us chicken. You know what I mean, Those chicken nuggets

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<v Speaker 1>ain't really chicken, but you can imagine how chicken existed

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<v Speaker 1>inside of the space that is the food that's being

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<v Speaker 1>served to us. Same things happening with logic in his blackness.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty clear that that somewhere in there

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<v Speaker 1>there was a black relationship of sorts, but now it's

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<v Speaker 1>mostly just pink sludge that's being served up to us

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of depressing anecdotes wrapped around it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Lankston Kerman, coming in, coming in, misbehaving

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<v Speaker 1>as always coming in hots as I used to say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm happy to be here. It's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful day here. I'm still trapped in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>I say trapped because I'm terribly unhappy here. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be back in l A soon and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be back in my apartment where WiFi works perfectly, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh apartment, I live in a home, and my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and my child there, and I won't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>so sad all the time. Anyway, My my guest today,

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<v Speaker 1>she ain't sad, not even a little bit. And she

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<v Speaker 1>she had a harrowing story that I hope she tells

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<v Speaker 1>us more about when she gets on the recording. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's neither here nor there. She's not sad because she's hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>super talented actress, comedian. You know her from all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of ship so funny. Please give it up for my guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Bianca Christop, I yeah, hell yeah, you're lying. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not for the people at home to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't tell Hell good, I'm good, I'm happy I

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<v Speaker 1>made it. I'm so sorry. I was late. I was late.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost got kidnapped at a gas station. Why what

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<v Speaker 1>happened at this gas station? Why? What were the what

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<v Speaker 1>was the entirety of the incident? Well, I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just getting gas and I'm getting my gas

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm listening to podcasts and the night turned and

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<v Speaker 1>I see a guy trying to get into my car. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a half white woman, I started screaming

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<v Speaker 1>and then somebody helped removed the man from my car.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he did he like get in the car and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, dry, bitch, I'm trying to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the third street. Like what was Did he say what

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<v Speaker 1>his plan was getting in your car? He didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>what his plan was? No, he was not very here

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<v Speaker 1>in Maybe he thought Ada was is uber, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know. Well I did he get in

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<v Speaker 1>the front seat? Yeah, yeah, not the driver though, not

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<v Speaker 1>the driver's seat, the passenger seat. So that was interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody gets in French seat if they

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<v Speaker 1>if they think that's the uber, they're not like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>are you my uber? I want to sit next to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Before COVID, I would sit in front, you would sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the front. That's that's truly psychopathic behavior. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>jail worthy behavior. Before COVID it was normal. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I don't think at any point where any

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<v Speaker 1>of your drivers allowing you to sit in the front

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<v Speaker 1>seat because it was normal. I think they were allowing

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<v Speaker 1>you to do it because they are underpaid and just

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<v Speaker 1>need the rides. But it wasn't because they were like

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<v Speaker 1>the stars. Yeah, this is a perfectly normal decision by

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy person. Well, I you know, I feel sick

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<v Speaker 1>in a car, so there's a reason for it. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm saying so, sitting up front sort of alleviate

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<v Speaker 1>some of that. Yeah, it makes you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>more in control, which is illusion obviously, But okay, Well

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<v Speaker 1>I still think it's nutty, but I respect that this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is you trying to manage what otherwise might

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<v Speaker 1>be you barfing in someone's vehicles. Yes, look, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have time to talk about your your crazy front seat

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<v Speaker 1>behavior anymore because you came to me with a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory that I think is gonna be It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a great conversation. I'm very excited that we're digging into this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't delay it anymore. You said, my mama

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<v Speaker 1>told me was created about white people to brainwash black people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the chemicals getting in your brain. Correct, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>And my mama would tell me everything. Oh you, your

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<v Speaker 1>mom is white, and there you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So so let's let's start from the beginning, because they

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<v Speaker 1>already were accusing your mother of disastrous things. Where where

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<v Speaker 1>did you first come upon this conspiracy theories? This of

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<v Speaker 1>your own making or is this one that you've heard? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is on my own making. But with that set,

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<v Speaker 1>it's based on another conspiracy which I believe it is true,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that relaxers are extremely dangerous to women and

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<v Speaker 1>and they can cause cancer, and they can cause all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of stuff. And obviously who's using relaxers Only black people.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, there is my conspiracy theory that I

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<v Speaker 1>actually believe in, and then off of that I built

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<v Speaker 1>my own, which is two brainwashes. Whoa Okay, so it

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<v Speaker 1>started at what sounds like a level of real research. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a level of real research. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, no, this is an actual found thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I I know to be true or at least believe

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<v Speaker 1>to be true. And then you're like, and I bet

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing some brainwashing ship and okay, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think Let's let's follow this train, because this is very

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to me. I I don't know how how familiar

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<v Speaker 1>you are, but I love a good toxic take on

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<v Speaker 1>on most things. So so help me understand. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're they're intending to do with this brainwashing? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a specific type of brainwashing? What? What's their

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<v Speaker 1>goal here? Well, I think first of all, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to go a little bit bad. So imagine, like you

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<v Speaker 1>use these relaxers since you're a little girl, Like the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I used mine, I was probably like ten

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<v Speaker 1>years old, So it starts very early on. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're just to be clear, you are a veteran in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. This isn't just a person used to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I stopped when I was a teenager. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, at the same time, I also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of woke up too many to me this

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So you know, you see the you see

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<v Speaker 1>the co incidence there. I stopped using relax or some

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly I became a real black person. Before was quite whitewash.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. Oh so for years, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>understanding you correctly, for years you sort of were, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working, not let's not say against. You were working

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily in favor of sort of like your black identity.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't sort of like treating that is, like the

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<v Speaker 1>way that you identified And then in taking the relax

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<v Speaker 1>or out of your hair, you started to see yourself

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<v Speaker 1>more as a black person. I think something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes it's not as simple, but yes, okay, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the relaxer itself that did it, but it it played

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<v Speaker 1>a part. Maybe it it was a part of a

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<v Speaker 1>longer growth in your life. Okay, I've long maintained this conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that white mom sometimes plays its part in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that people identify themselves. It mixed people specifically

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<v Speaker 1>identify themselves in the world like I have. I am

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<v Speaker 1>also biracial. My dad is white, and I think white

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<v Speaker 1>dad's play far less of a role in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you like sort of like see yourself as Like

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<v Speaker 1>I never at any point saw myself as anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than a black man, and I think it's because having

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<v Speaker 1>a black ass mom makes you sort of feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas a lot of the people who I know who

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<v Speaker 1>have white moms struggle more with oh, this is how

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<v Speaker 1>I identify. This is where you know. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>I used to think until right now that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of being a black girl and having a

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<v Speaker 1>black mom. But now you know, from your point of

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<v Speaker 1>view as being a black man having a black mom

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<v Speaker 1>and having the same experience, you might be onto something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I thought it was the whole thing about

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<v Speaker 1>your mother, mother, father, father, about you were telling you're

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<v Speaker 1>proving me wrong. So that's interesting. Damn all right, well

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<v Speaker 1>this let me ask you this. So so was her

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<v Speaker 1>mom the one that was encouraging you to relax your hair?

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<v Speaker 1>That's also very complicated. So my mother was the one, well,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely encourage some bad stuff, but I think the hair relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't necessarily encourage because it's expensive, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have money. So she was like, now

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't you shouldn't be doing that, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>like it's you know, it's bad for your hair. So

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<v Speaker 1>she actually did not completely encourage that. No, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>she she was on the side of of the justice

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<v Speaker 1>you eventually found uh without knowing it. With that said,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I'm saying it's more complicated than that

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<v Speaker 1>because she's a blonde woman in beautiful, long blonde hair

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<v Speaker 1>that I always wanted to have. Right looking at her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's what I you know, you're my role model.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I want to achieve, you know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was also looking at Beyonce and I didn't understand back

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<v Speaker 1>then that you know that that's the fake. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was her hair, and I my brain, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>ain't her hair. That's a whole week that lady was wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>But those blonde roots are not naturally that color and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not growing out of that scalp exactly. I would

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<v Speaker 1>look at those magazines, magazines in the you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>that hairplace where I would go to, and I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to look like Beyonce. Well I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, okay, so you're you're wanting to look like Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>You're relaxing your hair, You're trying to to emulate to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent your mother. At what point what happens that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like wakes you up, shakes you from this?

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you exactly what happened. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to friends, and I was so excited to spend

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<v Speaker 1>my summer in friends. I'm like sixteen years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like so ready, and I'm I've been like saving

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<v Speaker 1>up and like I've been excited, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the place to get my hair relaxed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way by a black woman. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to stress it out. I want to stress that I

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<v Speaker 1>was a black African woman. I want to stress it

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<v Speaker 1>out because I want you get to know that I

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<v Speaker 1>trusted her, you know, I had so much trust in her.

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<v Speaker 1>She relaxed and it looks amazing. I look like Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely wonderful. And I go home and I start

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<v Speaker 1>touching it, you know, and swinging in back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And then suddenly I realized that, like my hair is

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<v Speaker 1>falling off, and I'm like the probably from I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you make excuses when you're desperate, so and

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<v Speaker 1>I keep like touching it and more hair is falling

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<v Speaker 1>off and more hair is falling off, and then I realized,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing my hair, this big burn it all down,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna be bold. So by the time I

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<v Speaker 1>made it to France, I was basically bold, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had not cars. And yeah, and when we were when

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<v Speaker 1>we say bald, because I want to be clear, when

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<v Speaker 1>you say bald, I assumed there were still long strands

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<v Speaker 1>hanging on and then just the sies, it was really

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<v Speaker 1>burnt on top. So I looked like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a mullet, but like like you know those like

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged man who are like losing their hair but

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<v Speaker 1>they want to save it like that. That was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>George GA stands it. You had a real like Larry David,

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<v Speaker 1>George Coastance David. Yes, that's what I was like. Fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>that is that is tragic, especially if you win in

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<v Speaker 1>and pointed at a magazine of Beyonce, who I assume

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<v Speaker 1>is not bald under there. I don't know what what

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<v Speaker 1>our natural hair really looks like, but I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>not Larry David. Yeah, no, it was. That was heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the summer. In the summer, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>winter you can hide it, but in the summer you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot hide it. So you heard you? You show up

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<v Speaker 1>your Bald and France, which is a great film, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, baldin France. It's a lovely film that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to produce this summer. But you're you're bald and France.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do? Do you shave it all off?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you do you fully commit? No? I am I

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<v Speaker 1>am doing the middle age guy. I'm trying to preserve

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<v Speaker 1>the last remaining Oh yeah, of course I can totally.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I can totally. Um. Really, I to

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<v Speaker 1>sympathize with with men who lose their hair, like you

0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.880
<v Speaker 1>know from that experience. Yeah, I don't know. You then

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this will never grow back, like I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be I'm gonna have to like trump this ship from

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<v Speaker 1>now on. Oh wow, I didn't know. I didn't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very much in the moment. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>I am bold now, and that's a problem. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like two three years from now. I was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of scarfs. When people ask I think at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, you know, I'm sixteen and I have so more.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also like a level of embarrassment that I

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<v Speaker 1>did the relaxer and this happened to me. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>even explain. It was like a level that I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather tell people they had cancer to admit what I've

0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:59.720
<v Speaker 1>done cancer. Well, cancer is a hero's journey. That's that's

0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.280
<v Speaker 1>some body fighting through something. You volunteered to have your

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<v Speaker 1>your hair turned into a horse shoe, that is, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fool's journey if nothing else mm hmm. So

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<v Speaker 1>from then on I was thinking about it. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the whole similar to think about it. As I was

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<v Speaker 1>putting my scarves in my head and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>who would come up with the product like this? Like why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would you want to do why would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to raise this? Why would you want to do this

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<v Speaker 1>to women? Like why? And that product is evil and

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<v Speaker 1>burns your hair? And so you're sitting there, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>who would come up with such an evil product? Who

0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.480
<v Speaker 1>would want to hurt when? And then you put your

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<v Speaker 1>hands together in a triangle and you said, the white

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<v Speaker 1>devil is the only person I can think of who

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<v Speaker 1>would be this this evil? Is that where we're at? Absolutely,

0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.200
<v Speaker 1>first they convinced you that you need to have straight hair,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll show you a path of evil to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve it. And is their plan to to just make

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<v Speaker 1>you less because I guess this is circling back to

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<v Speaker 1>the original question. Is there their plan with this brainwashing

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of their evil, uh misdeeds? Is it to

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<v Speaker 1>just make you less black, to make you feel less confident? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the ultimate goal of their dastardly efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel less confident, to make you feel um

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<v Speaker 1>powerless in this world? And uh, to make you distracted

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<v Speaker 1>because you're huge. You're so worried about your hair, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to worry about other things in the world. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't work on climate change if I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep calmbing over you know exactly like I truly we

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<v Speaker 1>could have resolved what's happening to the polar bears if

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<v Speaker 1>only I weren't sitting with like these massive ball spots

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<v Speaker 1>from the severe. We would only have electric cars in

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<v Speaker 1>this world if it wasn't for relaxers. This is devastating news.

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<v Speaker 1>If true. I don't know that we can necessarily prove

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<v Speaker 1>it yet, but I'm excited to be following this journey

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Because it seems like the white man is

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<v Speaker 1>the root cause for all things terrible, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>the major theme of this podcast. Again, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how familiar you are, but we truly walk away from

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<v Speaker 1>every episode and we say fuck you white devil, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's usually the end, I think. So you're right

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<v Speaker 1>on track, you're doing great. Oh yeah, thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. And I just think it was the chances

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<v Speaker 1>before we go to break. This is the last question

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<v Speaker 1>I asked, what's the chances your mom's listening to this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she a big fan of of your comedy? Where

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<v Speaker 1>she at in all of them? My mother doesn't speak

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<v Speaker 1>English very well, so I you know, I am fearless,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything I say about her and great my childhood

0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and all that, she's perfect. So there's no chance she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw this into Google translation, and even if it does,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be mostly unintelligible afterwards. Yes, exactly, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no I have no fear perfect. Well, then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep talking ship. We're gonna come back after this

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<v Speaker 1>break with more Bianca, cristal about and more. My mama

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<v Speaker 1>told me and we are that we don't say the

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<v Speaker 1>n word around two year old. Yeah, we're back here

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<v Speaker 1>with more Bianca Christo vile more. My mama told me,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still talking about the possibility that relaxers were used

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<v Speaker 1>to brain wash black people by the white devil. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the conversation we're having. Do you think, uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all relaxers or they're like specific ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>like especially cooked up by you know, white witchcraft as

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<v Speaker 1>it were. Well, I am very excited for these for

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>this particular research, because we already know that most hair

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<v Speaker 1>you know, most hair companies that black women use are

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<v Speaker 1>not black owned, right, so it's very interesting to find

0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>these relaxing you know, these relaxers are owned by black people.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they are not, I say, all those that

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<v Speaker 1>are not owned by black people are definitely part of

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<v Speaker 1>my conspiracy. If there's one or two that are owned

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<v Speaker 1>by black people, those might be the ones that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are safe to use, Okay. I like, okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Look, if they're owned by white people, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't trust them, period, There's no no other explanation. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they are owned by black people, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's some consideration we can give them. Maybe and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard him on that. Maybe hard. All right, let's

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about what you're saying, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not completely untrue. There there's a fair amount of evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that says that even the products, the the ethnic hair

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<v Speaker 1>care stuff that you often find in your your Walgreens

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<v Speaker 1>locked up under heavy lock and key for some reason

0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.320
<v Speaker 1>because they're worried us are gonna run run in and

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<v Speaker 1>steal hair grease and and rung and slick hair that

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't afford. H is often owned by some larger

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 1>white conglomerate, i e. Dark and Lovely and UH and

0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Optimum Care, both of which are black hair care products,

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<v Speaker 1>are actually owned by Loreal, which couldn't be wider as

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand, Yes, exactly now to your original question,

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<v Speaker 1>or rather your original conspiracy theory of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>or or suggestion that white people invented relaxers, I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the unfortunate position to tell you that you are

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<v Speaker 1>not correct on that one. Relaxers were actually invented by

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<v Speaker 1>a dude named Garrett Morgan. Garrett Morgan you may actually

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<v Speaker 1>know he's a notable name in black history because he

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<v Speaker 1>is not only the major inventor of relaxers. But he

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<v Speaker 1>is also credited as the inventor of the smoke hood,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the predecessor for the gas mask, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is also the inventor of the stoplight. So this motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>was all over the place with his So he was

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<v Speaker 1>working on a stoplight. Are you serious the stoplight that

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<v Speaker 1>we're using right now for cars? He he invented the

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<v Speaker 1>greg and he was like, you know what, let's relaxed

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<v Speaker 1>that what. Well, this is where it gets even crazier

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<v Speaker 1>because I agree with you, there's no part of me

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<v Speaker 1>that wants to put my faith in a man who

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<v Speaker 1>invented the stoplight to then work on black hair care products.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not It's not usually how I approach my hair

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.880
<v Speaker 1>care products. It's like, I bet that dude who knew

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<v Speaker 1>to put the red above the yellow is uh, is

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I should trust with with all of my ship

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<v Speaker 1>on my head. Now here's where it gets interesting, because

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<v Speaker 1>he invented relaxers, or rather the serum as it were,

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>for relaxers, but he didn't mean to. It was actually

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>a complete accident. He was making a lubricant for sewing

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<v Speaker 1>needles in a sewing machine, like a new special lubricant

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.480
<v Speaker 1>that was helped to helping to make the needles move

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<v Speaker 1>smoother and faster. And the product, the sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>chemical he created, he then spilled on his arm and

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<v Speaker 1>all on his arm here, yes, so it lands on

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>his arm hair. And then he noticed this that his

0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>arm hair gets silky smoothed out of nowhere. This little

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>chemical makes his arm hair silky smooth, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's something that's pretty cool. And then this is

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<v Speaker 1>where this motherfucker turns into a real sick oh, because

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<v Speaker 1>he takes that product and then he says, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see if this actually works in you know, a

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>grander scale, And so he starts experimenting on his neighbor's

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>dog with the chemical. He takes his neighbor's dog and

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<v Speaker 1>he starts dipping the dog, and he starts dipping the

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<v Speaker 1>dog headfirst, and the dog it's just like a golden retreat.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's already a white like that dog has straight

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<v Speaker 1>hair or is it? Apparently, and I'm cautious to say

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<v Speaker 1>it the way that I planned to say it, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is also the choice I made. Apparently it was

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<v Speaker 1>a real nappy headed dog. He found a real nappy

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<v Speaker 1>headed neighbor's dog, and he started dipping the dog and

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<v Speaker 1>he and he noticed that that dog came out with

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous silk locks that that previously did not exist. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he started to experiment on himself. He started putting

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the products in his own hair and uh and smoothing

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>his own hair, straightening his own hair, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>started marketing it to the rest of the U. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so this guy is black, yeah, scary, very glad or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was the early nineteen hundreds. Okay, show men,

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<v Speaker 1>can you show me your hands real quick? My hand? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I want to see I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>the forearm. What does my form look like? Oh, you're

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to see if I have hair to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do the experiment. That's what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe. I don't believe this guy has dropped some

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<v Speaker 1>lubricant on his arm, because, like you know, black man

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>that are not known to have very hairy arms, and

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 1>then he knows that know that there it goes. Michael Spressy.

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I think this guy was jerking off with this new loopie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you don't think it landed on his arm. You

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>think it hit his pubic region from from him being like, man,

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 1>this lubricant is so smooth, it's better than lotion. I'm

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna beat my meat with this sewing machine

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:26.240
<v Speaker 1>lubricant and see what happens. That's my that's my theory. Wow.

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>If true, you have you have ruined Garrett Morrigan. Uh.

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>For every young person that was gonna write a special,

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, book report on Garrett Morrigan and and what

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>he did for black history, now they have to include

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>that Garrett Morgan was beating his meat and accidentally discovered

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>how to straighten pubic hair, uh, and then decided, Yeah,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>this is better than for public hair, I'll do it

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to my my scalp hair as well. Wow. I think

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>so Garrett Morgan invented this thing, but to your original conspiracy,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and I have not jumped off board. Even though I'm

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>now relatively firm believer that Garrett Morgan, a black man,

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>invented it. I had. You haven't lost me in the

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>argument that maybe this is a there is a fair

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>argument that although white people did not necessarily invent relaxers,

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>they did find endless ways to capitalize on the invention.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Right that like, although it was made by a black man.

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:38.719
<v Speaker 1>It was usurped and and made evil by white people

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and and the white powers that be. M M, how

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about relaxers? I have a daughter. I

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>would never put that ship in her hair. Uh, But

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I also understand that we we generationally come from a

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<v Speaker 1>history where it made a lot of sense into terms

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of the way that that people sort of saw themselves

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the way that they were being asked to see themselves.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's an unfair thing on my end

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 1>to be like judgmental of anybody that had that felt

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the need to do that, right. I wouldn't volunteer it

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>for anybody that I love or care about, because God damn,

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that ship's you know, not good for you. No, you're

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>saying so, I think, And to be clear for any

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>of our listeners who are sort of curious as to

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 1>why they might be bad for you, there's a chip

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.959
<v Speaker 1>ton of arguments that you can find for what relaxers

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>can do. And they say, according to some research, at

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>least relaxers can cause life threatening ailments such as reproductive problems,

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>heart disease, different forms of cancer, early puberty, fibroids, and

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>mental health disorders that shouldn't evil see mental health issue?

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>That goes back to my conspiracy. Yeah, it truly, it

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>goes back to your suggestion of brainwashing or at least

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>a type of like mind control that would happen if

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you take this a certain amount of the relaxers or

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>take them in a certain form, right, m hmm Yeah.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Even more interesting, relaxers have been found to disrupt the

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>chemical balance of our bodies by entering our system via

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>cuts and burns. Now, why is burned specifically interesting because

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>relaxers often burn it literally, like when you apply it. Yeah,

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>well that's the reason, Yeah, exactly, telling her it burns

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and she sat supposed to and I'm like, I don't

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>think so, my head is on fire. You know, maybe

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>if I didn't use relaxes, that could be a lawyer

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>or a doctor and not a comedian, you know what

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Yeah, No, I do know what you mean.

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And what a heartbreaking revelation for you to find this afternoon. Yeah, man,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I could have been anything I wanted, but I wanted

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to relax my hair And now now I gotta tell jokes.

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh two strangers and bars and ship Oh my god,

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and my hair is not even straight one of the

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>things that it got me asking all of this information

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>is what what is in relaxers that could cause so

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>many terrible things to happen to the human body. And

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the main chemicals that they say, the one

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that they say is most harmful in relaxers, or certainly

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>most dangerous and relaxers, is a chemical called sodium hydroxide,

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or as it's most commonly known in the streets. Lie.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with lie at all? No? Not at all?

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>You know for that I would have to be smart,

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but we established that I never got there because I

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and and what a shame because we all need to

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>learn about I. It's it's truly how can you function

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>in the world without knowing what the fuck LIE does?

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean any of this, but LIE is a

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>product a chemical that is most commonly used for soap making,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>candle making, homemade biodiesel, frosting glass, and for chemistry experiments.

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the main chemicals that exist thing

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in a relaxer, and it also is something people are

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>using to make bio diesels, but also so yeah, which

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>isn't super encouraging either, right that, like a lot of

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>our are sort of I guess, uh, everyday products include

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>chemicals that come with some level of caution if nothing else.

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. So here's where LIE gets even more interesting

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is that LIE, when it makes direct contact with human skin,

0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>can cause extreme burns, much like what you're experiencing, or

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you experience rather when you were on your your Great

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Parisian adventure. It can also lead to blindness and death

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>if consumed, and LIE is in fact so powerful that

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 1>when combined with extreme heat, it can be used to

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>completely dissolve a human body within three hours. So actually

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>your question about me if I was worried that I

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>will ever grow hair again, it was a legit question.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I maybe I you know that that was positive a

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>possibility it could have burned me so deep that I

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>could have been built for the rest of my life.

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right, and that's I think that's why I was

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>asking the question. And maybe you needed a little more

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>uh information to sort of make sense of it all.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>But legitimately, there is a possibility that through these chemicals,

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you can burn your flesh so badly that it it

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>salts the earth that there is no more growth able

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to happen from those those spots. It's kind of interesting. Now,

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>you know how when like Mob I love Mob movies, right,

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're always trying to make a body these up here,

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they're just put it into like a bath of relaxer. Yeah, exactly.

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You just dip a man in a big old tub

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>of dark and lovely and you you wait a couple

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of hours and he'll he'll disappear, and he'll be gorgeous

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>when he does. Like device. Yeah, just it truly is

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a a a jarring thing to be putting in someone's head,

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically in the head of a child or a young person.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Give the fact that that your brain and body are

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>already sort of in a developmental state. They're they're already

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>figuring themselves out, and then suddenly you add chemicals to

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>them that potentially can be changing the way that their

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>chemistry naturally would develop. M hm okay. So the other

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and this is the the the other product that I'll

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you about, or rather chemical that I'll tell you

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>about that exists inside of these relaxers, a chemical called

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>sussenic acid, susanic acid, sussenic acid, I don't know, I'm

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>not French, but the susanic acid found in relaxers is

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>explicitly said to be kept away from skin, eyes, and

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>even clothing. A a company called bio Amber. This is

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a company that manufacturers were manufacturers renewable chemicals, states in

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>their website that sussenic acid may be harmful if absorbed

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>through the skin. This is a chemical they're literally putting

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>inside a product that goes directly onto your scalp, and

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>instead they're being like, I wouldn't put that on anybody's skin,

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and we make the chemical. Yeah. See that's that's is

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>getting darker and darker. Yeah, no, it's not. I again,

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I this is always, I guess a difficult revelation for

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my guests. But uh, it never turns out better when

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we get into the research. You know what I mean?

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>You never read more. You're like, turns out relaxers actually

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>contain a ship ton of vitamin D. That's that's better

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>than sunny delight? Is there one good thing about them?

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Is there a vitamin in it? Is there something nice?

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the good thing is is perhaps the confidence

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 1>you could feel afterwards. If if that's the look you're

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>going for, you could look like the lady on the box.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, she's always swinging her hair and looking real

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>sensual back at at whoever is buying the product. And

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'll be honest, I've always wanted to make love

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to one of the ladies on the Dark and Lovely Box,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and so maybe you could feel like the Dark and

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Lovely lady. But other than that, no, you're burning your

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 1>your brain and your scalp. My hair never never turned

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>out like that lady on the box. I'm so sorry

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 1>that happened to you. It did turn out. It sounds

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like a a little bit of a Joe Pesci. Uh

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you had you had a Joe Pesci thing going on,

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And maybe that's okay, Maybe maybe that's pretty cool too.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Going back to that salon and I was crying to

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that lady, Oh my god? Did she was she sympathetic? Did?

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>She said? Had a client there in a chair, and

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I made a scene. I was like, you burned my

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hair ball at this and I started ripping hair of

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>my head. WHOA does the scene? So you were willing

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice more hair from your already dwindling scalp. All too, Sorry,

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not a big deal. And she gave me like

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a product for free. By the way, I paid for it.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I paid her loads of money. Yeah, did she never

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>give me back the money, of course, not no, but

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you did. What was the product? Was it more relaxer? No,

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:58.240
<v Speaker 1>it was some some joel, you know, something like moisturizing

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that obviously didn't keep my hair on my head. But

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that was the promise she gave. I got you that

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it was going to help to keep the hair from

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>did not. Obviously, it's wow. Well you remember that lady's name.

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Should we should we shout her out one time, send

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>people to her her wonderful salon for more of her

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>impressive work. People, if you're ever in the Europe, don't

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get your hair done in Europe. Just don't just wait

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and carried out. Don't do it in Europe. Don't do it.

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 1>That's if you're going to France, just go the way

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you are. Don't don't try to impress all these French

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>people with your your new hair, because sisters and brothers,

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it ain't gonna work. It's it's gonna turn into something

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>you didn't plan for it. All right, we're gonna take

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>one more break. We'll be back with more Bianca, Christoph

0:36:53.880 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Alan more. My mama told me, man, we are back.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>People who were enslavery wished that they had curveside service

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>at Applebee's. Yeah, we're back here with more Bianca Christoval more.

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 1>My mama told me, we're still talking about the possibility

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that you're frying your brains. Ladies and gentlemen, you are melt,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>melting your insides when you put these these products in

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.439
<v Speaker 1>your hair, and specifically, the white man is the one

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that wants you to do this. Now here's where the

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>research for me becomes especially interesting because I kept, I

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>asked you a few times, what do you think the

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 1>white man's goal is in sort of like creating these

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>products and and asking black people to relax their hair.

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that it reminded me of

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>is the the sort of rich history this country has

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>of forcing black people will to wear their hair not

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>naturally in public spaces in order to to be presentable,

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean. Mhm. There is a

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>ship ton of there are rather a ship ton of

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>examples of historically, and we've talked about a few of

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>them on the podcast already, of people being forced to

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>either cut their hair or treat their hair with products

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>in order to sort of be made more presentable for

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>workspaces and school spaces based on sort of white administrations

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and overseers. Oh yeah, no, it's a it's it's a

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>real problem. And they, you know, it's so funny. They

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>do it even to themselves. I have friends, white friends

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>who have curly hair, and they tell me, like if

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>when my hair is curly, I have less men approaching me,

0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>whereas my hair is straight, more men come up to me.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>That happens to even like white woman. It's not you know,

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it's bizarre. It's a bizarre thing. Yeah. I mean some

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of it feels like it can be chocked up to

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to socialization, right that, like you socialize enough and are

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of like given these images of what is attractive

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>over and over again, and then those images become permanent

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>in a person's brain, whether intentional or unintentional. And so

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that part I can sort of make sense of for

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the white people, but I think for the black people.

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I I especially think about like these stories of like

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>children who were sent home where I don't know if

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you ever saw it, but there was that video of

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like that kid who was on the wrestling team and

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>was forced to literally cut his dreads before a wrestling match,

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and had a bunch of white people cutting his dreads before. Yeah, No,

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a heartbreaking image to to sort of take in.

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>But they're literally surrounding him cutting his dreads off before

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling match because the breath decided that his hair

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't legal for the match, as if it had somehow

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 1>allowed him an advantage that uh, this husky white boy

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>he was about to flip on his back head, you

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Horrific, terrific it is. Yeah, obviously,

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>like the black hair has always been like a conversation debate,

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and the relaxers are part of it, I suppose, yes,

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I think even more devastating. One of the

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>things that I started to think about is like, uh,

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the new laws that that are truly just coming into

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>place now. I think it was like earlier this year

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 1>for the first time that Congress had even been able

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to introduce a potential law that says it's illegal to

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>tell black people or people of color that they have

0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to change their hair in order to participate eight in workplaces. Yeah,

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you know, it's so interesting because like

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, you see, it was very interesting for me

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>to to to see even Michelle Obama never never with

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 1>her hair, you know, natural, like never not once. And

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that is in a way, you know,

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting observation. You know, I'm not saying she's

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 1>wrong for it. I just think it's interesting that we've

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>never seen it. Well, no, I think I think to

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>that point, it's what makes these conversations so complicated, right,

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>is like you find yourself in a position where the

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>world is expecting you to look a certain way, and

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>then we as as black people, as people taking in

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>these these people in positions of power, go well, why

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>won't you represent us the way we need to be represented?

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>And it becomes this weird in fighting rather than sort

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of recognizing that the real danger is a group of

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>people suggesting that the way that we were in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place was not satisfactory, that it didn't it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work as we would like it to work. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean with that said, you know, bottom line is that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have any type of power or attention in

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<v Speaker 1>media and you do represent in a natural way, it

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<v Speaker 1>does inspire a little girl. So remember my story about Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to like Beyonce. Now, Beyonce I think is

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<v Speaker 1>arguably extremely a positive you know influence. You know, for

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<v Speaker 1>young girls or you know back in the day, was

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<v Speaker 1>But who else inspired me to actually turn the natural

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<v Speaker 1>uh to to go natural journey was Kellyes, remember when

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<v Speaker 1>she came up with my milk shape, so so she

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<v Speaker 1>had natural hair and so it was like like one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first people I saw rocking her natural hairs

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<v Speaker 1>like that, yeah, be me. And then you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>gave up the relaxers and like, yeah, I thinking who

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<v Speaker 1>I am right now? And I think to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>it's It's part of the reason why representation is such

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<v Speaker 1>a hearty conversation shan right, is that it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>about needing to see an equal number of black people

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<v Speaker 1>to white people whatever, but it's saying that, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>we can show the actual diversity of what black people

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<v Speaker 1>look like, I can make more conscientious decisions about what

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<v Speaker 1>I should look like and what I should be doing

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<v Speaker 1>with my own body. That it maybe Beyonce is not

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us, and some of us need to

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<v Speaker 1>go the route of Calie or the route of fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Viola Davis or whoever to to help us see ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>out in the world. I love it and signed hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we've got two signatures so far. And if anybody

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>else wants to say, I don't know anybody else. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. We're gonna We're gonna send a petition

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of two signatures to the government and say please stop

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<v Speaker 1>making relaxers, and they'll say what and and probably have

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<v Speaker 1>us murdered by the CIA. That's you know, relaxers. They

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>will have us murdered with relaxers. Sure, they're gonna dip

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>us in relaxer, much like that puppy that Garrett Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>dipped in the in the relaxer. And I have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no evidence. I couldn't find any research that said

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<v Speaker 1>how long that dog lived after Garrett Morgan did that

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<v Speaker 1>to him. But I got to assume he didn't break

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<v Speaker 1>any records, you know what I mean. This wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>dog that uh that made it to like twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you're gonna say, there's no evidence that he

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<v Speaker 1>actually harmed this dog. I thought, that's what you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I've been very clear. He harmed the funk

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<v Speaker 1>out of that dog, and then he like he wrought

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>about it himself. That's how we know. Who knows. I

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he wrote about it. Yeah, I'm sure

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the neighbor wrote about it, like this black guy's torturing

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>my dog. He's like, I keep my dog keeps going

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:03.479
<v Speaker 1>missing and coming back sexier than before. My dog goes away,

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.359
<v Speaker 1>and then my dog comes back and I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to fuck my dog. And I don't know why, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that Garrett Morgan has something to do with it. Well, Beyonca,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did it. I think I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was This was a lovely conversation. I had a great

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>time with you. Could you tell the people at home

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>what you have going on? Any cool things and where

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>they can find you? Well, you can find me on

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the Instagram and at Banta Christop bo I. I perform

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit around Los Angeles. I'm gonna be at

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the Comedy Store this weekend. I don't know that when

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>this episode gets released, but yeah, I I post about

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it in my stories. So follow me and and then

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and come get and come and see me live. I

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>cannot speak anymore. Tell yeah, So follow follow Bianca, see

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>her alive, do the thing. Don't don't threaten her with

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 1>any relaxes. She's been through enough. And as always, you

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>can follow me at Langston Kerman on all platforms and

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>uh and and please if you have can spiracy theories

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>of your own, If you have drops, if you have

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>any opinions you would love to send us, you can

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>send them to my Mama pod at gmail dot com.

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear from you. Otherwise, that's it

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>by bitch my crop chips in your rails. A Quala

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<v Speaker 1>bears are racist. The lastly, money part turney stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell me