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Speaker 1: Hey there, I hope everybody's enjoying their summer. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: going to do something a little bit different and take

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Speaker 1: you up behind the curtain here at One Jets Drive.

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Speaker 1: The Jets twenty twenty four draft class was made up

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Speaker 1: of seven players, as you all know, from Olu Fashion

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Speaker 1: in the first round to the last pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: mister irrelevant Jalen Key. In the days and weeks after

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Speaker 1: the draft, our entire reporting team talk to the Jets

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Speaker 1: college scouts about their findings on each selection. We wanted

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Speaker 1: to find out what was unique about each player and

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Speaker 1: why do they have a chance.

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Speaker 2: To succeed with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Today, we're going to start a two part series with

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Speaker 1: a look at the scouting of Penn State tackle Olufashion,

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Speaker 1: new running backs Braylan Allen out of Wisconsin and Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Davis out of South Dakota State, and then finally Jalen

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Speaker 1: Key out of Alabama. Let's get the conversation started with

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Speaker 1: Jets Director of college scouting John Carr on Fashnu, the

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Speaker 1: jets eleventh overall selection of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, Olu fashionu our primary area of

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Speaker 2: scout is Thomas Whitty who handles that area in the

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Speaker 2: northeast for US and Ja Mandalizi is the national Scout

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Speaker 2: and we had a couple of people take a look

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Speaker 2: at him as a third look. But Thomas did such

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Speaker 2: a great job of identifying the traits of this young

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Speaker 2: man and at the same time getting all the pertinent

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Speaker 2: background information that we need on this guy. And Jay

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Speaker 2: did a great job as well as far as in

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Speaker 2: his evaluation and background information he gathered on this guy.

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Speaker 2: But we were super excited about Olu. You see the

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Speaker 2: success he's had as a left tackle plan in a

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Speaker 2: high level conference in the Big Ten. I don't give

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Speaker 2: up any sacks, but just from his quick initial quickness

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Speaker 2: off the ball, it's contact balance, his anchor ability, plays

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Speaker 2: with very good awareness, and we had him pretty high

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Speaker 2: on our board, and that when we made the trade

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Speaker 2: and we were at the eleventh pick, he was still there.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a consensus in the room that

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Speaker 2: he was our guy.

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Speaker 1: All though, such a talented dude, I'm sure he could

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Speaker 1: fit well in a lot of places, But what makes

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Speaker 1: him the best fit for the Jets, And with that

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Speaker 1: being said, what qualities stand out the most about him.

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Speaker 2: Well, not only is he a good person, a good character,

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Speaker 2: and he's smart, right, He's very intelligent. He's not a

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Speaker 2: high rep type player. He's a guy that can play

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Speaker 2: left tackle or right tackle and he works at it

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Speaker 2: as well. So those things checked the box for him.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the size and the length

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Speaker 2: and the athletic ability, his quickness off the ball, those

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Speaker 2: things were very important in our style of offense. You know,

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Speaker 2: we run a lot of zone scheme type runs and

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Speaker 2: even in our pass pro drop back and movement in

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Speaker 2: the pocket. This guy has the ability to do all

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Speaker 2: of those things. He has a lot of range as

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Speaker 2: a player as a pass protector, and so those things

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Speaker 2: qualities that he checked that he can be successful in

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Speaker 1: For those avid listeners of the podcast We Salute You,

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Speaker 1: you might remember that Penn State head coach James Franklin

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Speaker 1: recounted the story of how he told Fashion he should

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Speaker 1: enter the twenty twenty three draft. Fashio, of course, elected

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Speaker 1: National scout jamn Elisi and Aria scout Thomas Whittie for

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Speaker 1: a long time.

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Speaker 3: We've known about Oler for a couple of years now.

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Speaker 3: He was a very highly coveted prospect last year. In

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Speaker 3: my opinion, he was one of the best tackles last year.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I think a lot of people were

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Speaker 3: you talk about a young man that has his priorities straight,

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Speaker 4: So going through the school and I guess it was

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, it's Oulu's true junior year, and you

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Speaker 4: couldn't say enough good things about him. Definitely try not

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Speaker 4: to scout the helmet, that's number one, but but just

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Speaker 4: not doing what we're asking to do in terms of scheme,

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Speaker 4: And then you see him run the forty at the

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Speaker 4: something he might have not shown as much on tape,

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Speaker 4: but but it is in his body.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: So it's agible's off the charts. He's so impressive. Like

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Speaker 1: you said, he comes from a tremendous family, but you're

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Speaker 1: talking about smarts and toughness and people get on me

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Speaker 5: More than that.

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Speaker 1: When you look from a scouting perspective, this guy playing

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Speaker 3: Bring to the table consistency? Right, Like, he's athletic, he's big,

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Speaker 3: he's strong. I mean, like he just checks the box.

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Speaker 3: From a traits perspective, Yeah, you know he can play left.

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Speaker 3: I personally think he could play right. You could maybe

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Speaker 1: From that standpoint, key talk about creates it. You guys

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Speaker 3: Athletic obviously long, right, he's only he's only twenty one

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Speaker 3: I mean you look at some of the stuff online

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Speaker 3: So I mean he can do it all. He can.

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Speaker 4: As you go in and through the process, you have

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Speaker 4: about a year or two years worth of data there

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Speaker 4: that eventually the player is going to tell you who

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Speaker 4: he is. So I think with Olui, he's someone that

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Speaker 4: everything came up, came up, he checked all the boxes,

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Speaker 4: and he continued to check those over his two years

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Speaker 4: as he started there. I think his size, length, his

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Speaker 4: the Big ten level, all all really stood out this

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Speaker 4: the calling card. I just think, I mean, everything he's

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Speaker 2: That's what he does.

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Speaker 1: So when you guys are in pre draft meetings, do

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Speaker 1: you actually discuss, okay, more than just the prospect. I imagine,

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Speaker 1: what's the fit here and can you explain why you

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Speaker 1: think this is a good fit. Because what stood out

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Speaker 1: to me during all his post raft interviews is that, hey,

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Speaker 1: I looked up to Tyron Smith. Basically my whole life.

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Speaker 1: When I was grown up in Maryland, I was watching

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Speaker 1: not only can can he come in and he's a

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Speaker 1: good player, but he can learn from these folks we

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Speaker 3: No, just like with Olu, We've we've been working on

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Speaker 3: him for a couple of years, right, so having Tyrone

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Speaker 3: is awesome, but like we've been we've been evaluating him

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Speaker 3: we see the player being? And the cool thing about

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Speaker 3: Oloo in my mind is yes, Tyron and Morgan are

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Speaker 3: great guys to learn from. But in my mind, I'll

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Speaker 3: he's gonna soak it all in, he's gonna be a professional,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna wait his turn, and ultimately, like you can

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Speaker 3: never have enough offensive lineman, and when you have a

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Speaker 1: Braylan Allen, a fourth round selection in the Jets, taken

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Speaker 1: with the one hundred and thirty fourth overall pick, had

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Speaker 1: twenty one hundred yard rushing games at Wisconsin. Car College

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Speaker 1: scout Drew Morris and senior regional scout Jonathan Stiegel broke

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Speaker 1: down the youngest player in the NFL draft, the twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Braylen Allen and the three man look that

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Speaker 2: we normally do with some of the top schools. Drew

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Speaker 2: Morris was the primary for that area, followed by Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Stiegel as a second look, and I was actually the

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Speaker 2: third look. I visited Wisconsin, So tell us about your visit, John.

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Speaker 2: It was a great visit, and Wisconsin's always a great visinits.

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Speaker 2: They're always going to have tough minded young men that

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Speaker 2: they you know, downhill, physical, dig ten type back. And

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Speaker 2: first go there, you're thinking, well, this guy's gonna be

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Speaker 2: little chubby, you know. And when you saw this kid

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Speaker 2: see the work he's put in in the weight room

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Speaker 2: and for that size for him to run with such

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Speaker 2: good balance and body control, and he has such quick feet,

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Speaker 2: and you know he's a finisher. He's a positive yard

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Speaker 2: And he showed that. And you look at his twenty

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Speaker 7: I think if he would have stayed in that same

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Speaker 6: I think first off, like watching him as a seventeen

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Speaker 1: Would you find out about him from the people on campus,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean he's he was raised in a good home.

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Speaker 7: You know, it was just you know, like I said,

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Speaker 1: Do you think about December and January when you're looking

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Speaker 6: I like to see the Braylen Allen where it's third

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Speaker 1: The Jets added even more depth behind star Breesall with

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Speaker 1: A stud at South Dakota State. Here's a kid who

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Speaker 2: Cool story with Isaiah. You know when we got when

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Speaker 5: Drew was really excited about this player and again watched

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Speaker 5: over their life. He went whether to Tornado, Tornado and Joplin,

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Speaker 5: Missouri when he was nine, Him and his family lost everything,

436
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Speaker 5: had to overcome that, you know, wound up being Missouri's

437
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Speaker 5: Gatorade Player of the Year his senior year. Didn't have

438
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Speaker 5: a lot of offers, was a small school guy. You know,

439
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Speaker 5: I think he had two offers coming out of high school.

440
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Speaker 5: So he wasn't like highly touted mister five star or anything.

441
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Speaker 5: But he's just a guy that's just got great makeup, consistent, tough,

442
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Speaker 5: you know, everything you want, and a jet Isaiah Davis

443
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Speaker 5: is it.

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Speaker 6: So a lot of that information into of like work

445
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Speaker 6: ethic and things like that you're going to get from

446
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Speaker 6: talking to coaches and building relationships with those coaches, and

447
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 6: then you really just want to see it like reinforce,

448
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Speaker 6: Like when I go out to practice and hey, this

449
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 6: guy has tremendous work ethic, and I know it to

450
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Speaker 6: be true that Isaiah Davis has tremendous work ethic. He's

451
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Speaker 6: extremely focused, he's driven, and when you're out there scouting it,

452
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Speaker 6: you want to see it. Like you want to see

453
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Speaker 6: that he's out there early to practice. You want to

454
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Speaker 6: see that he's the first in line out there in reps.

455
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Speaker 6: You want to see that he's going all out in

456
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Speaker 6: all of his indie periods. You want to see that

457
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Speaker 6: he's doing little things off to the side to get better.

458
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Speaker 6: You want to see at the end of practice that

459
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Speaker 6: he's got a couple of things that he's working on

460
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Speaker 6: or he's working on with other guys. I think you're

461
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Speaker 6: taking the information and then every time that you have

462
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Speaker 6: a chance to see a player, whether that's in person

463
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Speaker 6: to practice, whether that's in an All Star game, Isaiah

464
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Speaker 6: was at the Senior Bowl, whether that's talking to him

465
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Speaker 6: at a pro day at again Isaiah talking to at

466
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Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl. You're trying to reinforce all that information

467
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Speaker 6: and just stamp it in terms of, Okay, everything I've

468
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Speaker 6: heard about this guy, now I've seen it with my eyes,

469
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 6: I've heard him talk about it. All of those things

470
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Speaker 6: are true, and Isaiah checks every single box in that regard.

471
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Speaker 6: I think the other thing about Isaiah is in terms

472
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Speaker 6: of his versatility. And he's a bigger back. Obviously, he

473
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Speaker 6: can run through contact, He's strong. I think the physicality

474
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Speaker 6: piece of Isaiah Davis is a big thing, not only

475
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Speaker 6: as a runner but in pass protection, and I think

476
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Speaker 6: that transitions really well to being a special teams player

477
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Speaker 6: for us. He's returned kicks in the past, punts, kickoffs.

478
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Speaker 6: You go back and you watch him at the Senior

479
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Speaker 6: Bowl and you watch him play on punt team and

480
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Speaker 6: you're like, all right, this guy can cover kicks at

481
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Speaker 6: the NFL level. I think that's where he can come

482
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Speaker 6: in and immediately help us as a special teams player.

483
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Speaker 5: Isaiah's got great balance and body control and got good

484
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Speaker 5: quickness and strength and power to him. So those are

485
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Speaker 5: the things that I really liked about him. He was

486
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Speaker 5: again he was my Red Star for this year, so

487
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Speaker 5: I can't speak enough on him. He's a great, great,

488
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Speaker 5: phenomenal person.

489
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Speaker 1: So background there on the Red Star. Don Green's Red

490
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Speaker 1: Star player, of course, was former South Dakota State standout

491
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Davis. As Jets senior football advisor Phil Savage told

492
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Speaker 1: us earlier on the podcast, the tradition is every scout

493
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Speaker 1: should be able to nominate a Red Star from the

494
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Speaker 1: area or group of schools. That is, a player who

495
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Speaker 1: checks every box from an intangible standpoint. The twenty twenty

496
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Speaker 1: four NFL Draft covered seven rounds and two hundred and

497
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Speaker 1: fifty seventh picks, with the Jets owning the final selection.

498
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Speaker 1: Alabama defensive back Jalen keys family was watching Day three

499
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Speaker 1: of the draft in the living room when he exited

500
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Speaker 1: to the garage with nerves as the final selections were

501
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Speaker 1: made and Key got a call from the Jets and

502
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Speaker 1: got the news that he's headed to New Jersey to

503
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Speaker 1: start his NFL career. Here's College Scouting Director John Carr,

504
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Speaker 1: College scout Andy Davis, and National scout Dom green On

505
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Speaker 1: what's relevant to mister irrelevant.

506
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Speaker 2: All came back in the room there to talk about

507
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Speaker 2: the seventh round pick there mister irrelevant, and Jalen's name

508
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: just kept coming up. You know. He was a guy that,

509
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Speaker 2: you know, very mature young man that kind of bet

510
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Speaker 2: on himself right, transferred from UAB after graduating there and

511
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Speaker 2: was kind of a laid out on at Alabama. And

512
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Speaker 2: you know, anyone knows Nick Saban's defense can be very

513
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Speaker 2: difficult to learn right away, you know, and for him

514
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Speaker 2: to come in and quickly pick up that defensive scheme

515
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Speaker 2: and and kind of become the communicator in the back end,

516
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Speaker 2: and this kid has wired the right way. It was

517
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Speaker 2: kind of a no brainer throughout the room, especially the

518
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Speaker 2: guys that covered that area with Andy Davis being the primary,

519
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: with Don Greenby in the National and Phil Savage with

520
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: his relationship at Alabama, you know, you know at one

521
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: time working there, those guys were all on board. And

522
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Speaker 2: I watched the kid on tape as well. You got

523
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Speaker 2: a guy that's good, good in his key and diagnosed

524
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Speaker 2: and you know, got good short air quickness, recovers well

525
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Speaker 2: in coverage, and he's got a really good clothes and

526
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Speaker 2: he's not afraid to throw his body around. So that's

527
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Speaker 2: gonna be a good addition to our defensive room.

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Speaker 1: How interested are you to see what actually unfolds during

529
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Speaker 1: training camp? And we could use the safety position as

530
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Speaker 1: an example, because you guys resigned Chuck Clark. We know

531
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Speaker 1: Tony Adams was an undrafted free agent that you guys found.

532
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Speaker 1: Now he's in the starting lineup. Bring back Ashton Davis,

533
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Speaker 1: but you got two young guys he took in consecutive

534
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Speaker 1: years there late in the draft.

535
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Speaker 2: JBC.

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Speaker 1: I think people often forget about him because of his

537
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Speaker 1: first year, and then also obviously bringing in Key as well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important that we have good competition. It's

539
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Speaker 2: going to make our team better, right. You know you

540
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Speaker 2: spoke of a Cook and Adams and Ashton Davis being

541
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Speaker 2: resigned as well. Those guys are going to definitely help

542
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: us on deep has been proven on tape. And then

543
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Speaker 2: you know, with the addition of JBC, another versatility guy

544
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Speaker 2: that can play corner, he can also play safety. We're

545
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Speaker 2: going to see how he does at both positions this year.

546
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Speaker 2: And then bringing in these two young guys, again, it

547
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: just makes our team more competitive. And we want these

548
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: guys because they're hungry. They got the character that they're

549
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: going to come in and they want to start, and

550
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: so that's what you want. And they're intelligent that we

551
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: can move them around. So I'm really excited to see

552
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Speaker 2: how all those guys compete on the back end. And

553
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: we got a good safeties coach and coach Manuel that

554
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: does a great job with those guys, and coach Obrick

555
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: puts us all in the right put those guys in

556
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: the right position to have success. So I'm excited to

557
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: see when they all get there and get working together

558
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: and OTAs on how these two young guys will pushing

559
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Speaker 2: some of the other guys.

560
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Speaker 8: Two seasons ago at UAB, going through there, they had

561
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Speaker 8: some players that were prospects and you see Jalen on

562
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Speaker 8: the field. He obviously looks the part and you're like,

563
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 8: all right, that looks like an NFL player. And again

564
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 8: you start talking to position coaches and staff there and

565
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 8: they love him and he's a great kid. They ended

566
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Speaker 8: up having staff change and I think late in the

567
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 8: summer or during the summer, Jalen was a late transfer

568
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 8: for Alabama, and it was really like a remarkable situation.

569
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Speaker 8: He's obviously transferring to a huge program defenses and emphasis there,

570
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Speaker 8: and Jalen didn't have another year, so for him, like

571
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Speaker 8: that's a big gamble to go make that move, and

572
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Speaker 8: it's like, hey, I'm either going to play or I'm

573
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Speaker 8: gonna waste a year of my eligibility here. So I

574
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Speaker 8: thought it was remarkable that he made the transfer, got there,

575
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Speaker 8: and was able to earn the trust of the coaching

576
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Speaker 8: staff and coach Saban to get on the field right away.

577
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Speaker 5: So that's how I've initially found out about him. I

578
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: was asking questions about the guys to the guys there

579
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 5: at UAB about Jalen again, same type of demeanor, person, toughness,

580
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: all that stuff, wired like you want them, all that stuff,

581
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 5: And I circle back, go back to Alabama to see

582
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Speaker 5: this guy. And he's a great looking kid, big, strong,

583
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: rocked up lean, you know what I mean. You tell

584
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: he's been working, he's taking care of his body, really smart.

585
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: He's started learned Nick Saban's system really fast, which is

586
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: really hard to do because it's complicated, and you know,

587
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 5: wound up being a good player for them. And had

588
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: a great season for him. Couldn't be more impressed was

589
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: Jalen's overall character, his passion, and his smarts, because, like

590
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Speaker 5: I said, Coach Saban's system is really difficult. Normally it

591
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 5: takes guys, you know, two sometimes three years to pick

592
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: it all up. He picked it up a matter of

593
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 5: a couple of months. So it's a feather in his

594
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Speaker 5: cap going to Alabama and learn it and not only

595
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 5: learn it, but learn it to the point to where

596
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Speaker 5: he could start for him and make an impact on film.

597
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Speaker 8: You see a good athlete. He's versatile, he's big, he's strong,

598
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 8: has good arm length. I think, just really for him,

599
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 8: like he's a physical kid. He plays under control, he

600
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 8: can play the deep part of the field, he can

601
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Speaker 8: play near the line of scrimmage because of his frame

602
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Speaker 8: and allows him to do both. And really he's a

603
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Speaker 8: high motor, smart player.

604
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Speaker 5: We have a meeting on the Saturday, and we you know,

605
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 5: he asked for you know who the guys are excited about,

606
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And so you know, guys,

607
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: you know, the guys that we took were guys that

608
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: we were excited about, you know. So just so happened

609
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: Jalen was the last pick, you know what I mean.

610
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Speaker 5: So it's like I told him on the call, doesn't

611
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: matter if you're the first pick, last pick, you know

612
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: your job's come in here and you know whoop some

613
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: tail and take some names and earn a spot, right,

614
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Speaker 5: So that's what it's all about.

615
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Speaker 1: On our next pot, we'll take a deep dive on

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Speaker 1: the Jets scouting of wide receiver mail Kai Corley, quarterback

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Speaker 1: Jordan Travis, and defuse it back Quantza Stickers