1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: What's that actor my bed? It's spooky. I'm really sure 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: it's dead. It's coming this way. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Wait a minute. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: I ghosted by Rose Dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz. 5 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ghosted by Rose Dress Fels. I have got 6 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: a fun one for you today, as always, this time 7 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: with Jack plot Neck, who is an actor that stays working. 8 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: He is always popping up in things. Many people know 9 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: him from the cult classic film Girls Will Be Girls, 10 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: which was drag before Reality TV, and I was so 11 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: obsessed with that movie, which also stars Coco Peru, one 12 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: of our most celebrated guests to ever be on this show. 13 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: If you've never seen that movie, you should really check 14 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: it out because it's the two of them, Barla Jean 15 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Merman drag icons and it's hilarious and it's just like 16 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Jack being spectacular. But he also I always think of 17 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: him when I think about this show that was on 18 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: in like the early mid two thousands called Drawn Together. 19 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: It was this animated show that was on Comedy Central, 20 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: and he played this character. The character's name was Xander, 21 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: and he would always say I'm on a never ending 22 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: quest to save my girlfriend. That was Jack Plotnik, because 23 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: he's he's amazing. So he's on the show today. I'm 24 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: really excited about that. You know another show that he 25 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: used to be on, Reno nine one one, which is 26 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: one of my favorite comedies of all time. And I 27 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: actually recently downloaded Paramount Plus because I wanted to see 28 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the new Reno nine one one movie. And as I'm 29 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: watching the movie, it takes place on a cruise and 30 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: I was like looking around, and I'm like, wait a minute, 31 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: that's the Queen Mary, the infamous haunted location the Queen Mary. 32 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, if you, first of all, I highly endorse 33 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Reno nine one one always, but if you're looking for 34 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: something fun to watch, and you can also at the 35 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: same time see Inside the Queen Mary, which I don't 36 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: believe is open to the public these days, that's one 37 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: way you could do it, because it certainly features the 38 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Queen Mary a lot in it. But now that I 39 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: have Paramount Plus, I started poking my head around and 40 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I found this documentary about the Paranormal Activity movies, the 41 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Blumhouse blockbuster movies made on a dime. And I'm a 42 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: huge fan of Blumhouse and the Paranormal Activity movies as well. 43 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: And the documentary is called Unknown Dimension colon the story 44 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: of paranormal activity. And the reason I was bringing it 45 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: up is because there's a fun little anecdote concerning Steven 46 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Spielberg heard of him. So Steven Spielberg. There's a story 47 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: about when DreamWorks was acquiring the movie and Steven Spielberg 48 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: was involved, and he screened the movie at home, and 49 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: he claims that a door in his house locked itself 50 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: from the inside and he had to have a locksmith 51 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: come and and open that door, and he was so 52 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: freaked out by it that he returned the DVD and 53 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: he put it in a trash bag and was like, 54 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: get this out of my house, like it's haunted. I 55 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: thought that was kind of a fun story, because you know, 56 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things is to talk about these 57 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: horror movies and spookiness happening around them, which again brings 58 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: into a question a lot of things. But I do 59 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: think that there's some truth to if you're in a 60 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: state of fear, now, is it your mind playing drigs 61 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: on you? Who knows, But it seems to that fear 62 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: state seems to attract paranormal activity, and so I don't know. 63 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why sometimes when people shoot horror movies or 64 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: surrounding horror movies, weird things happen. I'm not sure. I 65 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: am not sure, but I did read an article recently 66 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: and it's the website is sciencefocus dot com. Now again, 67 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I always like to you to make it clear. I'm 68 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: certainly I believe in science. I absolutely believe in science, 69 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: and I never want to be confused for somebody that doesn't. 70 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: But also, you know, I like to have fun and 71 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: I do think there's things that science cannot explain yet 72 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: preter natural I suppose it's the term for that. But 73 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: this was an article that came out a couple of 74 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: weeks back, the end of December, December seventeenth, and it 75 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: was in relation to the Ghostbusters movie that recently came out, 76 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: and it's a psychologist explains why we believe in the paranormal. 77 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: And so, you know, I've read these kinds of articles before, 78 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: and they've been kind of frustrating because because it makes 79 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: me go, oh no, oh, now, like, are we all 80 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: just making this shut up? But I know we're not. 81 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: But I still wanted to see what this had to say. 82 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: And I was actually kind of pleased by some of 83 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: the things in here. So it says. In twenty nineteen, 84 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: a you gov poll found that forty five percent of 85 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: Americans believe in ghosts, whereas in twenty sixteen another poll 86 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: showed that British people are more likely to have faith 87 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: in spooky spirits than the existence of God. So Richard 88 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: wise Man, that's his name. He's a professor of the 89 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Public Understanding of psychology at the University of Hertzfordshire. He 90 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: says that it tends to be driven by two things 91 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: people's believe in this stuff. One is peron experience. Lots 92 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: of people claim to have had paranormal experience after the 93 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: loss of a loved one. The other is popular media, 94 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: maybe like a podcast. I don't know. Most experiences aren't 95 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: that difficult to rationalize away with photographs. For example, there 96 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: used to be double exposures, and not so many today. 97 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: These sorts of ghosts have gone away with the arrival 98 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: of camera phones, which is true, I suppose, But then 99 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: there's also like so much ring camera like ring camera 100 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: ghosts are all the rage these days. He also brings 101 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: up you know, people have imaginations. He says, we want 102 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: to imagine a world that doesn't have pain or suffering, 103 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: where our loved ones are still with us, where pattern 104 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: searching creatures and the price we pay for seeing patterns 105 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: that are there is occasionally going into overdrive and seeing 106 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: patterns that aren't there. Huh. And he links the belief 107 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: in ghosts to create activity, which could you know, kind 108 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: of go along with my whole theory of this podcast. 109 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: Interviewing so many creative people, I've always found that creative 110 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: people tend to believe in this stuff. But my thing 111 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: isn't always that. I think it's because creative people, you know, 112 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: have imaginations and they can create these things in their mind. 113 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily I don't know if I necessarily believe that. 114 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: That's the reason I can. I can understand that maybe 115 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: being a part of it, but I think I just 116 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: always have put that on open mindedness and being open 117 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: to the possibilities of it. Maybe. And then he also 118 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: brings up when you are told ahead of time, like 119 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: a place is haunted, and how sometimes you know that 120 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: makes people start thinking, oh, I experienced something, which I get. 121 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I get it. I totally get it. But that's why 122 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: I especially love this. That's my favorite kind of story. 123 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: When people go, hey, who was that that man that 124 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: just walked through the hallway and just disappeared. And then 125 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: someone goes, Howard, Oh, that's old Howard. Yeah, he's been 126 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: rooming those holes for years. Like you know, that's the 127 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: kind of story that we love. But I can admit 128 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: that I've been guilty of being at a place that 129 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: I know is haunted, and I'm like, that was something 130 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: so But then there's also this little optimistic bit here 131 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: where he says, if you look at the greatest scientific advantages, 132 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: like putting someone on the moon or coming up with 133 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: a vaccine for COVID within months, to do that, you 134 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: have to believe you can do something that's pretty close 135 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: to impossible. I think that capability to believe in something, 136 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: even though the evidence is minimal, allows us to do 137 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: amazing things. And every once in a while ghosts lead 138 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: us astray, but we can't have one without the It's 139 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: the price we pay for doing amazing things. I mean, 140 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: that's gorgeous. I love that. So you could check out 141 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: that article. I mean I pretty much told you most 142 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: of it, but it's written by Stephen Kelly science focus 143 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: dot com. So let's do some amazing things here today 144 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: on my episode with Jack Platnik and as always, if 145 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: you want to hear a little extra good patreon dot 146 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: com slash whiles Drezfalas link in the description of this episode. 147 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Jack about some unexplainable phenomenal and you 148 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: can also see a video this week of me talking 149 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: about Scream. I just saw the new Scream movie and 150 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: I loved it, so I give a non spoiler and 151 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: spoiler review on my Patreon this week. Anyway, here is 152 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: me talking to Jack Platnick on with the show. I 153 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: am joined by Jack Plotnick. Hello, Jack, how are you? 154 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: WHOA? 155 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: I'm actually really spooped out just doing this. I'm thrilled 156 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: to be here, though, I'm nervous and excited. 157 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm so excited you're doing this, Jack. I've been a 158 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: fan of yours for a very long time. 159 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 3: And it's very kind of you. I adore you. I've 160 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: known you for quite a while. 161 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: I've been watching, I mean, through the pandemic. Your Instagram 162 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: has really given me life. As the kids say. 163 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: Oh well it was how you know, it was a 164 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: coping mechanism for me, so I guess it gave me 165 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: life too. 166 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: How are you okay? So, for anyone that doesn't know, 167 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: you've got to follow Jack Plotic because you do these 168 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: videos with I mean, I'm assuming a green screen and 169 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the wig budget is high, and you put yourself in 170 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: h Like my favorite ones are these Disney ones that 171 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: you do, which are from what is that from? From? 172 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: Like Wonderful World of Disney in the City he was, 173 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm only realizing now as an adult. They were basically 174 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: a commercial for Disneyland. 175 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Park totally, which I love to I love that kind 176 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: of old Disneyland stuff. But and I've seen those TV 177 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: shows before and they're very like staged and it makes 178 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: it feel like, oh, this is what it was like. 179 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: But I'm sure I'm sure everyone of the ard. 180 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to be an imagineer when I was a kid, 181 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: so I just literally made myself an imagineer in these 182 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: videos because he goes around introducing them but barely lets 183 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: them talk, and so I just played the imagineers and 184 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: I keep the camera on them, and you kind of 185 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: start to get an idea of what life was like 186 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: for them, I guess. And my second one was all 187 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: about the Haunted Mansions. So for your show, your followers 188 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: might enjoy that. I also people who listen to this 189 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: might be as obsessed with The Shining as I am, 190 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: and I did a video called Deconstructing Bill Watson where 191 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: I play Bill Watson. Who is this weird character that 192 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: is in like a major section of the beginning of 193 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: the movie but has like one line. 194 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: Wait, is this the guy that like he meets with 195 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the movie. 196 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: Yes, but it's the guy who is also in the 197 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 3: office who doesn't talk. Anyway, your listeners know what I'm 198 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 3: talking about too, and you guys, so if you want 199 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: to see what was really going on between Bill Watson 200 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: and his boss, you can watch that video. 201 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: And you will never watch The Shining or any of 202 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: these things the same way. Again, you now, we're here 203 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: to talk about the paranormal. 204 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: And I am so ready for this. 205 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, how do you feel about all this stuff? 206 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Well, I've I always used to say, with aliens and 207 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 3: ghost I'm eighty percent a believer, but I think it's 208 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: gone way up, especially aliens, especially aliens. Well, yeah, I'm 209 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: just you know what TikTok. 210 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Has. 211 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: And also just the older I get, the more I 212 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: kind of think that this shit's real. And I've also 213 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: had some interesting experiences and I'm fascinated by it, But 214 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: I also I don't want to see one. And I'm 215 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: always kind of like when I'm in a new place, 216 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: if I feel spooky at all, I kind of will 217 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: just say like hey, mentally I say this, I'm not that, 218 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: but I say, like, don't show yourself GHEs to me 219 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: because I would die. 220 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: So you think that they can like telecommunicat. 221 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Or whatever telecommunications like with Verizon and AT and T. 222 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: Now or what's the word I'm looking for? They can 223 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: read minds? 224 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea. I think 225 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: if they exist, they could certainly kind of read my mind, 226 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: I guess. I mean, look, once you take one step 227 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: down the magical thinking road, it's fun to just keep running. 228 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Down it totally. 229 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: Why stop with it? You know? But I will say 230 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: my I was terrified of my childhood home. My parents 231 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: had the nerve when I was like fucking seven years 232 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: old to move us into like the oldest home in 233 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: this town. It was literally a log cabin before they 234 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: turn it was turned into an actual home, and my 235 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: parents were kind enough to tell us that the woman 236 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: who lived there before us told them that she would 237 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: speak with Satan in the backyard. In the garden. 238 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a nice thing to tell a family. 239 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: Nice thing to tell a seven year old. Yeah, and 240 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: the boy that was her son. He was obsessed with 241 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: the movie Jaws so much so that if you recall 242 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: the movie poster of Jaws, that kind of shape of 243 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: the Jaws coming out of the water. He would paint 244 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: it all over the basement that shape. And so the basement, 245 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: by the way, I'm told was maybe one of the 246 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: stops on the what was that called the underground railroad. 247 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: It was a very creepy little basement. And and they 248 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: told us that's your playroom now, Oh, fine, it was. 249 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: And they also, because I was the youngest in my family, 250 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: basically just let me watch any movie everyone else was watching, 251 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: like It's Alive, about the Killer Baby or Psycho. And 252 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: I couldn't shower alone from the first year of the house. Now, 253 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: I didn't make them go in the shower with me, 254 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: but I would my mom. I had to be able 255 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: to see her through the frost glass sitting on her bed. 256 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Oh I couldn't because of Norman Bates. 257 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: I get well that and Satan, Yeah, definitely Norman Bates inspired. 258 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: And then for years I would get home from school 259 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: and I was a last key kid. I was the 260 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: first one to arrive. I would go right, and I 261 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: wonder if more people have this experience. But I'd go 262 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: right for the knife drawer and I would walk through 263 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: my house with the knife. 264 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: I like to do that now. 265 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: Oh oh no, I may or may not sometimes take 266 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: a little sweep around with a knife, just to make 267 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: sure everything's. 268 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 3: Fine and you're feeling me, you know what I mean? 269 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: And exactly what you mean is this was this an Ohio? 270 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Is that is Google correct that you grew up in a. 271 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from Columbus, Ohio. 272 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, because Google told me Worthington, Ohio? Is that accurate? 273 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Now do you know it? 274 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't know it. 275 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: But it's a great city. It's a progressive little haven 276 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: in the middle of the Midwest. 277 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to hear that. I did do some 278 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of research here and I found I 279 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: was like, I wonder if there's haunted places in Worthington, Ohio, 280 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: because you know, there's places everywhere. 281 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: Is said to be the most one of the most 282 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: haunted places in the state. And it's right down the 283 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: street from my house. And a friend of mine told 284 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: me the story. A friend of her stayed there and 285 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: saw just this black blob that just felt like pure 286 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: evil floating above their bed. And it's known for that 287 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: the whole Now it's just been I think it's now 288 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: no longer a hotel. But yeah, that's a pretty scary place. 289 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: I didn't have an experience there, but my brother and 290 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: I had a terrifying experience when I was only about eleven. 291 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 3: We were babysitting at someone's home and we were watching 292 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: a film and uh in the in the TV room, 293 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: and we started hearing noises in the kitchen, like a 294 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: drawer opening and slamming shut. And we'd go in there 295 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: and there was nothing there, and then we'd go back 296 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: to the room and we'd hear it again, and the 297 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: dog was just in the doorway with us, but but 298 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: scaring at the doorway into the kitchen and just barking. 299 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, that was pretty scary. 300 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, do you know what the story was of 301 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: that house? 302 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: No? No, I mean I had killed that family just 303 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: a week prior. That was far too young to gil. 304 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: I could only dream of killing that time. Because now 305 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: I have You know what, you can make your dreams 306 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: come true when you're an adult. 307 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: No, I'm just well, okay. So when I was doing 308 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: my research, luckily a lot of the work has already 309 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: been done by Worthingtonmemory dot Org, and they were telling 310 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: me here. It says most of the city's ghost stories 311 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: originate from buildings right in the middle of town. A 312 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: story in the Worthington Suburbian News that was published in 313 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two tells of the hauntings of the former 314 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: Worthington Inn I told you yes, and the Old Rectory, 315 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: which I hate that word. I'm sorry, I hate the 316 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: word rectory. 317 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: It's a little director. 318 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: It's very close, dangerously close to rectum. But the Old Rectory, 319 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: which is now home to the Worthington Historical Society. According 320 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: to some who have worked or stayed in the former, 321 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: a mischievous ghost, often considered to be a previous owner 322 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: named George Snyder, likes to turn on faucets and slam doors. 323 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: He also leaves behind the scent of sig smoke. 324 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 3: Those might be just like farts from somebody who smoked 325 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: a lot of cigars. 326 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: I know these ghosts and their cigars and their cigarettes. 327 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: As always, they always leave it behind. But I guess 328 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: that was well. 329 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you get home from a bar 330 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: and you smell it in your clothes for weeks, So 331 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: I guess it's the same when you die on a 332 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: smoke a lot in your clothes and they don't have 333 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: washing machines in the nether realm? 334 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: Right? Or how many times do you think it was 335 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: someone that was sneaking a cigarette and then they're like you, guys, 336 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: I think there's a ghost in here. It smells like 337 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: cigarettes in here. Actually, it turns out worthy toon. There's 338 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: a lot of different sneaky places on here. I was, 339 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean the the Kilborn commercial building. 340 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: I went to Kilbourne School. I did not know that 341 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: that was. I mean, it certainly felt scary going to 342 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: ninth grade there, but I think that was more about puberty. 343 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there's a historical society in town that does 344 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: ghost tours every October if anyone ever happens to be 345 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: in town. It looks like there's a whole list of 346 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: things here. The Saint John's Episcopal Church and Cemetery, which 347 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: the wife of the church first deacon, Philander Chase. That's 348 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: a great name. Mary's uh, the wife of the church's 349 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: first Deacon Philander Chase Mary. Her life was difficult and unhappy. 350 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: She died from tuberculosis soon after moving to Worthington from Connecticut. 351 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: During an expansion of the church. Her remains were removed 352 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: from the burial site and placed under the altar in 353 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: the sanctuary. Now she makes herself known by filling the 354 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: space with unexplained lights and sounds. Some refused to be 355 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: in the church after dark because of the eerie presence. 356 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: Well, what were they doing digging up her bones and 357 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: throwing them under the altar? 358 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone knows you don't double Yeah, exactly, Come on, Wow, 359 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: that's a very great So you never had Satan? 360 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: And the same thing was I moved right right when 361 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: I went to college. I moved into a haunted house, 362 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure of it. 363 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, okay, wait before we get out of there. So, 364 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: did you ever encounter Satan in the garden or anything 365 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: like that. 366 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: No, but my dad was pretty pretty hard at times, 367 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: so maybe he was inflicted by this, by the spirit 368 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: of the house. He was a very loud, yeller. Okay, No, 369 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: I never I never felt any presence in the house. 370 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: I was just generally scared of it. 371 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 5: Okay maybe yeah, okay, so this ghost you said in college? 372 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, gat what happened? 373 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: I went to college in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and we moved 374 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: into a very old home that was called the dramat 375 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: Frat because it kept getting passed down from people in 376 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: the theater because I majored in theater. And uh this 377 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: was Carnie Mellen in Picture of Pennsylvania. And I spent 378 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 3: the summer there by myself before everyone else arrived, and 379 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: I felt it felt creepy and like like I remember 380 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: one time I may or may not have been looking 381 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: at a pornographic image, but my shade is when they 382 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: just opened, you know the old kind of shades you'd 383 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: pull down and would stick. Uh huh yeah, they didn't stick. 384 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: That was pretty scary. But then when everybody joined me, 385 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of really weird stuff happened. Let me see. 386 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: My friend was lying on the couch one night and 387 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: I'm in my bed and this is everyone's gone to sleep. 388 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: It's like midnight, and I hear somebody clunk clunk clunking 389 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: up the stairs. Uh, into the house. Because to enter 390 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: the house you had to go upstairs and then you'd 391 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: hit front the door of the entrance, and I remember thinking, like, 392 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: who is coming in this late and why is it? 393 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: But I just fell asleep. I didn't think much of it. 394 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: So later my friend, who was in the living room, 395 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 3: he says, did here's somebody coming up the stairs us? 396 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 3: And I said yes, he said I did too, and 397 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: I looked to the front door. And then after you 398 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: opened the front door, you have to open another door 399 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: to liver room. Oh wait, no, after you open the 400 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: front door, that leads right into the living room, he said. 401 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: I waited to see if somebody was going to come 402 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: into the front door. No one did. But then on 403 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: the other side of the living room, the door from 404 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: the living room to the rest of the house. He 405 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: saw it open and no one was there. So that 406 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: was wild. Another time, I was walking home from school 407 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 3: and I was just sort of singing to myself, just 408 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: very quietly, singing that song from Charlie Brown, Happiness is 409 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: finding a cord or you know that song, huh okay. 410 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: And I get home and there's a whole group of 411 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: people in the living room watching TV. And as I'm 412 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: walking through, just one of the people the room just 413 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 3: starts singing that song and I freak out. I'm like, 414 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: why did you just sing that song? And they were like, 415 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just felt like it was anyway, 416 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: that just seemed really weird. By the way, these are 417 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: gonna build an intensity. 418 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Okay, no, these are good. 419 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: The next one, we had the laundering room in the 420 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: basement of this house, and there was this bottle of 421 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: beer left open from a party or something, and it 422 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: was just sitting there. No one wanted to throw it away, 423 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 3: you know how college kids are, And literally like weeks 424 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 3: and weeks past and we would all just walk by 425 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: this bottle of beer and no one would throw it away, 426 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: And that one day it was just totally right right. 427 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 3: And then one day I noticed it was gone. I 428 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: was a good somebody somebody bent over and got rid 429 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: of it. And then a few weeks later it was 430 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: right back where it was same. But I mean I 431 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: it was the same amount of beer just sitting there. Again. 432 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: I thought that was so creepy. 433 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Where do you think it went? Did they just like 434 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: hit it in a closet or something or. 435 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just saying that that that gave 436 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: me the chills. But everybody kind of in the house 437 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: kind of felt a weirdness so much so we did 438 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: a Wiji board one night and we were talking to 439 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: this spirit on the Wigi board and it said that 440 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: it was a relative of someone in the house, and 441 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: then we figured out that it was a relative of mine, 442 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 3: and then it said it was in heaven looking down 443 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: on me and that its name was David. And I 444 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: didn't know who that was, but I remember thinking maybe 445 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: it was. This is going to sound crazy, but I'm Jewish, 446 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 3: so I decided, by the way I guess all of 447 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 3: these stories need to be filtered through. A sophomore in 448 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: college's brain, which isn't quite together yet, decided it was David, 449 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: King of the Jews, and we finished playing with it. 450 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: It was wild because we really felt that thing moving 451 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: on that Wiji board. I went into my room and 452 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: saw something so terrifying I nearly screamed, but I was 453 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 3: just stood there in fright. And I'm going to tell 454 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: you what that is right now. Earlier that day, I 455 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: was in a I had been in a thirst store 456 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: and I found these three dimensional pictures with lights behind them, 457 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: and I thought that was the coolest thing ever. They 458 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: happened to be lights of Jesus, like one of them 459 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: is like knocking on a door. Do you remember these 460 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: three dimensional pictures with a light and you could like 461 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 3: if you move. It seems that the pictures three dimensional. 462 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 463 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: Anyway, So I had hung them earlier that day and 464 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: they were a little heavy. So I remember, I like 465 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: really made sure they would stay out because I put nails, 466 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 3: I put tape. So I go in my room and 467 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 3: both of the Jesus pictures that I hung on my 468 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: wall were lying on the floor. And then those were 469 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: ripped out of the wall. Whoa wow, So David Kane, 470 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: the Jews didn't like that I was hanging pictures of Jesus. 471 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: Now here, here's the kapper. This is the big ending. 472 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: We had a girl living with us in that house 473 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: who claimed she was a little psychic. But she said 474 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: that she was lying in bed one day and she 475 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: opened her eyes and there was an old man sitting 476 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 3: on the furnace next her bed in her bedroom, and 477 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 3: that he was looking at her, and she she was 478 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: wide awake now and he didn't disappear. He was right there. 479 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: He stood up and just walked slowly out the window and. 480 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: Was gone out the window through the window he. 481 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: Just sort of disappeared through the window. So but no, 482 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: everyone who lived in that house was like, yeah, this 483 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: is it was a freaky place to live. Wow, but 484 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: I did I never saw anything, but I heard those footsteps. 485 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: Definitely heard that. 486 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: And well, anyway, so the thing with weija boards is that, 487 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: like sometimes I think people do them in a location 488 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: thinking that they're talking to whoever the ghost is there, 489 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: but like you could be talking to somebody else too. 490 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: You know, you could be talking to like who knows what, 491 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: just some whoever wants whoever's down to talk. So it 492 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: could have been, like, you know, more than one experience 493 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: happening at the same time. Maybe it wasn't the same 494 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: person as that person that was in her room, or 495 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. There's a lot of possibilities. 496 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: But oh absolutely. And also they don't have to tell 497 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: the truth. So yeah, spirit comes to the board, it's 498 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: just fucking with you. I mean, I have to figure 499 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: once you return to the almighty all knowing, you're you 500 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: kind of know everything and you can just fuck around, 501 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: especially with like some college kids that like leave beer 502 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: bottles around, like let's just have a little fun here. 503 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: But well, I hope it's fun being a ghost, because 504 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think I want to be one, 505 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: because it seems like maybe you're stuck. 506 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems sad to me. It seems. I always 507 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: compare it to somebody that's like stuck in a trend 508 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: from like a long time ago that won't move out 509 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: of it. 510 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: When it's like still wearing skinny jeans. 511 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, like we all decided we're not doing that anymore, 512 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, no, no, it's still cool, and you're like, 513 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: come on, like go to the right right. 514 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. 515 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. But the fact that it ripped nails out of 516 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: your wall, that is so scary. Yeah. 517 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: Well, either that or I was trying to hang very 518 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: heavy pictures on nails that can't hold them. But the 519 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: point is, at that moment, I was sure it was 520 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: King of the Jews angry with me. Point is, I 521 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 3: bought it. 522 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: So did you hang them back up? 523 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: No? I did not. I know I didn't, and I 524 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: really loved them, but I was like, okay, done with. 525 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Those because even though maybe those were a haunted object 526 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: from a thrip store, you never know what these thrip stores. 527 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do find that very interesting that because I 528 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: like thrit Star shopping. I like things that have been 529 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: other places use things, articles, lamps, same, you know, but 530 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: that is kind of creepy to think they're usually person 531 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: the energy. 532 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: Like nine times out of ten, I feel that there 533 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: they belong to dead people. I go to a lot 534 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: of estate sales and sometimes, you know, sometimes it's just 535 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: people moved or they're downsizing or whatever. But then other 536 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: times it's like the person just died, and it's like, 537 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of eerie. What's also disturbing to see people. 538 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: I like, speaking of someone just just dying. I missed 539 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: out on the greatest opportunity of my life because of 540 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: this exact thing, which but I have to trust I 541 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: was meant not to give this apartment, but I was in. 542 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: I thought I was going to live in Manhattan, and 543 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: I was looking for a place I could afford. And 544 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: the luckiest thing that could ever happen to somebody in 545 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: that situation happened to me, which was I walk up 546 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: to a building and this person's walking in there, like, oh, 547 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: there's an apartment out there that just got freed up. 548 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: You can come in with me to look at it. 549 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: So I go in and literally the person there had 550 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: just left this apartment like that early that the night before, 551 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: because all her stuff was there. And I'm in there, 552 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: going like, how did like just that never happens. Normally 553 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: a person finds an apartment and they end up raising 554 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: the rent by one thousand dollars, right, So anyway, they say, 555 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: I say, what happened to the woman? They go, oh, 556 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: she died last night? 557 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: What? 558 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: And they're ready, just like come on in check it out. 559 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and the price was crazy good, And I go, 560 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: how did she die? They said, she threw herself out 561 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: that window. 562 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 563 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: And then I turn around and in the corner of 564 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 3: this apartment is an altar two cats, not the musical, sorry, 565 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: just kittens, an altar with candles, an entire wall covered 566 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: in little like cutout magazine kit like one hundred and 567 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: two hundred cats. 568 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: Oh, no cat. 569 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: And I backed out of that apartment so fast. Oh 570 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: kicked myself for a decade after. I thought, Jack, that 571 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 3: was the only way you were going to ever afford 572 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: an apartment in New York is if the person literally 573 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: just died. 574 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but with the ghost of a cat lady as. 575 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: A right, Well, I don't know, maybe maybe if I 576 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: kept the altar up, she would leave me alone. 577 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: It could be you never know any but yeah. I 578 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: went to in Estatesyll a couple weeks ago and the 579 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: friend that I was with opened the refrigerator like a 580 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: nosy person, and it was like all the food is 581 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: still in there, Like it was like all the cupboards 582 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: filled with food, and it was just like, oh my god, 583 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: this person just died. 584 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes I think about that, and I pushed the 585 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: thought away very quickly. But I'll purchase something and I'll go, 586 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: I wonder if I'll live long enough to use this. 587 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: It's just a morbid thought. We all morbid thought. You know, 588 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: when you walk up to a balcon and you go, 589 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: I want to throw myself off. It's just a weird 590 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: morbid thing humans have. Am I the only one? 591 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: No, you're not alone? So what about Have you had 592 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: experiences with psychics or anything like that? 593 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 3: I paid quite of money to talk to one, and 594 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: then I had mixed feelings. Certainly she got a lot 595 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: right that no one could ever know. Oh, and that 596 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 3: really gave me chills. My grandma's name is nowhere to 597 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: be found on the internet, and she knew her name. 598 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: She knew that my family loved going the Disney World. 599 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: She knew my dad's girlfriend's things that aren't available anywhere. 600 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: She knew. 601 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that there's a psychic grandma database, 602 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: because I hear this kind of thing all the time 603 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: from people that are public figures or whatever, that they 604 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: go to a psychic and the psychic knows their grandma 605 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: or their grandpa or whatever, and they say, there's no 606 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: way you could know this is It's nowhere on the internet. 607 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: I feel like they have their own little thing, these 608 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: psychics going on. 609 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Can I tell you my favorite psychic story please? 610 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: A friend of mine named Jessica Bendinger. She wrote the 611 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: movie Oh shit, what's the movie about cheerleaders? 612 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 613 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: Bring it On? 614 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. 615 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: So before bring was Bring it On, it was just 616 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: a script that she had and then she was working 617 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 3: on right and the script at the time was called 618 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: cheer Fever instead of Bringing On, So that was the 619 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: working title cheer Fever. And Jessica goes to a psychic 620 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: and to sort of ask him, like, you know, just 621 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 3: to help point her in the direction she should go. 622 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: And this was one of cheer Fever was one of 623 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: the many projects she was looking at, so Anyway, this psychic. 624 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: The way he works is as he's talking to you, 625 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 3: he's writing things down on a tablet, And after he 626 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: chats with her for a few minutes, he looks down 627 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: at the tablet where he had written these words, and 628 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: he says, what's cheer virus? And she goes cheer fever. 629 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, what is that? She goes to the movie. 630 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 3: He goes, keep working on that. That's going to be big. 631 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: WHOA interesting. 632 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a pretty cool story. I used to feel 633 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: that I was psychic because when I would go to 634 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 3: out to a club, and in my thirties, I would 635 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 3: after i'd have a drink or two. I loved seeing 636 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: if I could guess people, guess things about people, and 637 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: I was often right with me, like guessing their last name, 638 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: guessing I would say, like I'm feeling an airplane. They'd go, 639 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: my dad is a pilot. And my experience of it 640 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: at the time was that it was almost like it 641 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 3: was as if someone was whispering these things in my ear, 642 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 3: but I couldn't hear it in the way normal way 643 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: and ear or hears it. 644 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: Really Does that make sense? 645 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I'm not saying I was psychic, but I 646 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: did constantly sort of surprise myself in how many times 647 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: i'd get things right. 648 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: Do you have that happen when you don't have a 649 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: cocktail or two? 650 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't happen anymore, and I'll tell you why. 651 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: So my thought at the time was that it was 652 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: an and I don't know why. I just believed it 653 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: was an indigenous, a Native American girl whispering in my ear. 654 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: That's that was just this feeling I had. And then 655 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: I turned thirty. Yes, I guess this was like leading 656 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: up to when I was turning thirty, and I just 657 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: sort of my career stalled and I got into a 658 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: bit of a depression. And that was the first time 659 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 3: I saw a therapist, which I'm so glad. I think 660 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: it's a great thing to see a therapist at each 661 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: time in your life. You know, every ten years you 662 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: sort of go through a change, and it's a good 663 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: thing to have just have someone to bounce things off of. 664 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: But anyway, so I had this depression, lasted a year, 665 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: and the gift went away. If it was a gift, 666 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it was. But I no longer really 667 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: have much. I'm not I don't hear any thing anymore. 668 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 669 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: And my feeling is that I just became boring to 670 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 3: whatever that presence was. I was no longer very fun 671 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: to be around for that year and they went away. 672 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: So did you? Were there attempts? Were you like out 673 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: and about and be like, I'm going to guess your 674 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: last name is Johnson? 675 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: Like now it's I probably did, probably did a few times. 676 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: That happened, and I lost it. I do love the 677 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: idea of like the drunk psychic, like that being like 678 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: the Long Island medium or something. We have the drunk I. 679 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: Love the drunk psychic. Oh right, it up, we'll pitch 680 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 3: it together exactly. 681 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So it turns out you've got a lot 682 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: of great stories here. What else? What else can we 683 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 1: get from you? Yeah? Uf story? 684 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw you? 685 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, here we go. All right, give it 686 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: to us. 687 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: Well, now, mind you. A UFO to me simply means unidentified. 688 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 3: And I saw something one night in Los Angeles that 689 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 3: as it was happening, I knew I was seeing something 690 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: that to me was completely unexplainable. And it happened right 691 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 3: over West Hollywood. 692 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: So I've seen a unexplainable things to be fair. 693 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: Usually floating in the sky, but I hear you. I 694 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 3: hear you. So anyway, this was I was young, I 695 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 3: was probably like thirty, and I love wind. I love 696 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 3: wind windy nights, and you don't often get wind in 697 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: LA and this was a lot of way. It was 698 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 3: like a crazy windy night. And I went outside and 699 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: stood on the roof of my building just so I 700 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: could enjoy it. And it was clear night, so there 701 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 3: was just a sky full of stars. It's probably midnight, 702 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 3: and I see some lights pretty far away and they're 703 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: flying in's it called in tandem. I don't know how 704 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: to put it, but it was like eight lights flying together. 705 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: And the first thing my mind thought was, well, those 706 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: are helicopters, because they were kind of in a circle 707 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: and flying together and very far away and very slowly. 708 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 3: And then I noticed something that really freaked me out, 709 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: which was, as I said, they were sort of flying 710 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: in a circle together slowly across the sky, very slowly 711 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: across the sky, and the stars in the middle of 712 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 3: that circle you couldn't see. So in other words, it 713 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: hit me, that's a large shape outlined by lights. 714 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 715 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: And so they were kind of the perimeter of. 716 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: Yes, And the thing you have to understand this. So 717 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 3: my first thought was is it a hot air balloon? 718 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: But this was the windy, this was crazy wind and 719 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: it just kept slowly chugging across the sky, very far away. 720 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: So it's not like a huge shape right above me, 721 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 3: but far away. And my heart's racing now because it 722 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: was no it was This was a long time ago too, 723 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: and it was no shape of any plane I've ever seen. 724 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 3: It couldn't have been a plane, and it could have 725 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 3: been a balloon, and yet it was big. And I 726 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 3: watched it go across the sky and uh. 727 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see it as it like disappeared or 728 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: how did that end? 729 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, just kind of got too far away to see. 730 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 3: I guess I can't remember. I mean when I say slowly, 731 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't it that slow. I feel like I 732 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 3: watched it for about seven minutes. 733 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: Wow, you saw a UFO. 734 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fascinated by them. I have a terrible, terrible fear, though, 735 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: of a giant shape floating in the air above me. 736 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 3: Even as a child, I had this concept of a 737 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 3: giant shape above a very small like pin. Anyway, it's 738 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: always been a scary thing and I have just I 739 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 3: just really don't ever want to see that really. 740 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: See Okay, I've talked about this a thousand times at 741 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: this point on this podcast, But I saw unexplained phenomenal 742 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: up in the sky in uh Sedna a couple months 743 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: ago on purpose, I went on a UFO like tour 744 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: thing and like things, I saw things, and I thought 745 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: it was like just I thought it was like whale watching. 746 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was like majestic, gorgeous. Thought it was 747 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: so cool what. 748 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: The thing you saw was majestic. 749 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, just the way that they would fly around it 750 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: was like so different than an airplane or a helicopter 751 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: or anything like that. I got like, I also am 752 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: convinced that they're not bad and that it's all good, 753 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: because I just think that they have so much power, 754 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: like they're above us, Like if they wanted to do 755 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: some bad stuff, they would do it, but they seem 756 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: to be I don't know. I think they come in peace. 757 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: Do you do you believe that they might be picking 758 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 3: people up and experimenting on them. 759 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: Ah, that's what people say. I mean, who am I 760 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: to say that it's not real? But the woman that 761 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: gave my tour claims to have been abducted many times. 762 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, did she have any marks or anything? 763 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I did not. 764 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 3: I've heard it sometimes they take a little divot of 765 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 3: skin out of your back. 766 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, I mean I don't really know if I 767 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: want that, but I'm good with my back divots and everything. 768 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: Divot less, I think they call it. So I have 769 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: a friend who's pretty sure he was abducted, and can 770 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 3: I tell you that story? 771 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: Please? 772 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: Okay? So I asked him, I said, can I tell 773 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 3: the story if I don't say your name? He said, 774 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 3: just tell my name. I don't care. So he's one 775 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: of my closest friends. His name is Jim Hansen, and 776 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 3: he works in Hollywood as a costumer. And anyway, so 777 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: here's the story. Tells that he could tell better, but 778 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 3: I'm your guest today and he isn't. So anyway, him 779 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: and his friend were driving I think, from Seattle to 780 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 3: a Los Angeles and it was a high turn and 781 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 3: they were going up a very big hill, like a mountain, 782 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 3: and so as he recalls it, he was quite young. 783 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 3: But at the top of the mountain, they decided to 784 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 3: put in into the cassette player that tells you how longer. 785 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 3: This happened a book on tape, and so they stuck 786 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: it in and they start heading now down the mountain 787 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 3: and it's a pretty long way to go. Now they 788 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 3: begin driving down the mountain and suddenly they're at the 789 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 3: bottom of the mountain and the book on tape is done. 790 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: It's you know, it played out and is ejected and 791 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: he turns his friend and he goes, what happened? What happened? 792 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: Because he has no memory of driving down the mountain. 793 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 3: He just was suddenly on the down at the bottom 794 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 3: of it. He turns his friend to say what happened, 795 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 3: And his friend kind of like stirs awake and goes, oh, 796 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 3: my god, I just had the most terrified nightmare. And 797 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: he's like, huh what. And his friend says, we were 798 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 3: in the car and I saw like a hand, like 799 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 3: an alien nish type hand reaching in to unlock the door. 800 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: Ah. 801 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 3: And that's the story, and he swears by it, and 802 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 3: he never doesn't know anything else. There's nothing else he 803 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: can share about it. 804 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: Whoa an alien unlocking the door? 805 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: Said he saw a hand like going to open the door. 806 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: That is so freaky, because yeah, I mean, that's what 807 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: a lot of people you know, report missing time is 808 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: like probably the most common thing that you hear. Oh 809 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: my god, that is so scary. 810 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 3: And I may, I may. You know, I make comedy 811 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 3: videos all the time. And my friend Klinton Loup, who 812 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 3: is Miss Cocoa Peru. 813 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of our favorite guests of the show. She 814 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,959 Speaker 1: she gave us the alien tea. 815 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so then therefore she's already told the story about 816 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 3: how the alien that her sister saw moved its head. Right, wait, 817 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: what was the hep she Well, I don't want to 818 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: tell it because I haven't asked her for her if 819 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm allowed to, But I'll just say her sister's saw 820 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: an alien and it moved its head in a very 821 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 3: specific way that you'll see if you watch one of 822 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 3: my comedy videos. Because Miss Coco Peru knows that story 823 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 3: scares the hell out of me. And I was about 824 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 3: a two years ago. I made a comedy video about 825 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: a woman who gets subducted by aliens and you can 826 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 3: see it. 827 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: What is it called. 828 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 3: It's called Carol, and it's on It's in my comedy 829 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: shorts on my YouTube playlist. And I love this video 830 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 3: because it's it's kind of the creepiest it's actually kind 831 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 3: of scary how it came out and was so I 832 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 3: love that because I love horror films. But anyway, I 833 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 3: basically play a bunch of aliens as well as the woman, 834 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: and I moved my head exactly how she describes it, 835 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 3: how Miss Coco describes it in her story, and he 836 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: got a real kick out of that. 837 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Coco's one of these people that, you know, I 838 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: reach out to people that I like and I'm just like, yeah, 839 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: you have a story, just like I did with you. 840 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: And Coco came with like twenty story, Like so many 841 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: stories of ghosts, I would. 842 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 3: Aliens go to that episode and listen to me listen 843 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 3: to her alien story. It is terrifying. 844 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: I think that there's just some people that, you know, 845 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: I think there's some people that ghosts like, and I 846 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: think that there's it seems that aliens sometimes are drawn 847 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: to certain people and and sometimes people talk about like 848 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: their family after generation and generation have had experiences with 849 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: UFO sightings or abductions or whatever. I don't know. Again, 850 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: like you said at the beginning of this conversation, as 851 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: time goes on, it seems like this stuff is I mean, 852 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: it's still obviously so much unknown, but it kind of 853 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool to talk about it now because 854 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: there's so much evidence and so much validity, you know, 855 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: all of the all of these things that have come 856 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: out just the past, you know, two years or so 857 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: that it feels I don't feel as insane talking about it. 858 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 3: Well you shouldn't, because yeah, I definitely agree that it's 859 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 3: been made pretty valid. 860 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, do you want to hear some ghost voices? 861 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: Oh? My god, Okay, what are you talking about? I 862 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 3: love it and I'm terrified. 863 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well it's time for EVP or ev pase. Have 864 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: you ever heard the term EVP? 865 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's about the sounds that you record, right. 866 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: Yes, electronic voice phenomena. So it's you know, whenever a 867 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: person captures what they believe to be a ghost speaking 868 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: on some kind of recording device. And I go to YouTube, 869 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: where there are thousands and thousands of EVPs, though some 870 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: are also in ev police, and I have my guests 871 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: tell me what they hear, and I'll give you some options, 872 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: and the correct answer will be what the person on 873 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: YouTube leaves they heard. 874 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So we don't know if these are real 875 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 3: or if they were created to get followers. But we 876 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 3: do know that the ghosts, the person who's sharing them 877 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 3: believes they've figured out what they're saying. 878 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, that's all of this stuff. 879 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: Nobody knows that, Like you know, who knows. 880 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 3: Well, I personally love. I am happy to watch a 881 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 3: fake a really good fake UFO video or really good 882 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 3: fake ghost Like I don't care if it's fake, but 883 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 3: because because it's really exciting when people can do a 884 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 3: good job of convincing you. But then the ones where 885 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 3: they where they say like this is actually absolutely true 886 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 3: that that does that is a little more exciting. 887 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: I definitely, Well, here's. 888 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 3: Kind of decide these are all actually real. 889 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: Something about this world of EVPs on YouTube that I've 890 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: gotten into. These are not videos that are viral, Like 891 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: I really dig deep in there and I find stuff 892 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: that was posted ten years ago and it has fifteen 893 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: views on it, Like it's These are just videos that 894 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: people just here's my findings, And I don't know a 895 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: lot of times I think they seem to be legit. 896 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know either way. It's fun. 897 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, especially things like this because it's not someone 898 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 3: trying to have a paranormal channel, right, you know, and 899 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 3: is saying yeah, every night I hear some it's like, 900 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 3: come on, man, it's much more believable, like when it's 901 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 3: somebody saying, look, this happened to me and I had 902 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 3: to share it. 903 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, well a lot of times. But also it's like 904 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: paranormal teams and stuff that are sharing their findings. For example, 905 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 1: this first one is from a channel called Sam's Paranormal, 906 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: that's what it's called. And this is at the Ohio 907 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: State Reformatory. Do you know about that place? 908 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 3: No, but the reformatories were like, you punish children, and 909 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: we all know that back to the day when things 910 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 3: weren't there, weren't cameras and stuff that kids would quote 911 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: unquote pair like die from. Anyway, they were pretty horrible places. 912 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 913 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: Well, this is an old prison and it's in Mansfield, Ohio, 914 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: and it is actually it's a it's a famous haunted 915 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 1: place that's been on a lot of these paranormal shows, 916 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: and it is where they did. 917 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 3: Should record the sounds with a regular recording device or 918 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 3: these recorded with some kind of like measuring energy, like 919 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,479 Speaker 3: how does it work. 920 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: Usually it's either someone's video some type of video camera, 921 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: or some type of audio recording. Just it's yeah, just 922 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: pretty basic stuff. But this place right here, this is 923 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: where they shot Shawshank Redemption It. It was in business 924 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: until nineteen ninety. 925 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 3: Did any crew members of that movie say that they've 926 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 3: had eerie feelings? 927 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure there has to be. We gotta get 928 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: somebody on. Okay, So here it is. Here's this first one. 929 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of whispery. What do you hear? Okay, it's 930 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: pretty quick. It's just it's a voice going like that. Okay, 931 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: let me play it again. 932 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 3: Oh I'm hearing Oh call o cow. 933 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: Okell okell stop it. 934 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 3: So I have to figure that it's talking to someone 935 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 3: named Kelly, and but it's using her cute nickname. 936 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, kel, you're crazy. Wait, let me play 937 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: it again. Okay, okay, I totally pick. 938 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 3: Up that time I heard. 939 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: Oh hell, oh okay, that's scary. Well, here's some options. 940 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: Is it A, don't go there? Is it B I 941 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: don't care? Is it C Are you scared? Or D 942 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: I'm a Karen? Oh remember the term Karen. I feel 943 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: like that's kind of gone out. Maybe it was a 944 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: ghost from twenty twenty. 945 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, why would it. 946 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 3: Why would Karen die? 947 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. 948 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: These are the options. He's Jack. 949 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 3: Say option two again to me, Dear, I don't care, okay, 950 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 3: now let me hear it. Gay, Well, I mean, if 951 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 3: I had to choose, I would choose. I don't care. 952 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 3: I hope it's I'm a Karen though, because I don't mind. 953 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind it. 954 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,959 Speaker 1: I'm a ghost and I'm a Karen and I'm gonna 955 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: speak to the manager of this paranormal team. Uh it is, yes, 956 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. Now. Here's the funny thing about this. 957 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: What they said in the little description of the video 958 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: is that it says we were discussing using phones and 959 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: tablets while using the bathroom, and the ghost said, I 960 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: don't care. Okay, let me play it again. Now let 961 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: me know that I hear it. 962 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean. The thing is he can see 963 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 3: you piss and poop anyway, What does he care whether 964 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 3: you're you know, he's already forced to see all of it. 965 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: It's like, I want do whatever you want. Okay. Here's 966 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: one more. This one is from Rags Design, rygg Apostrophe 967 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: as design and on YouTube, and it is from Southeastern 968 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: Idaho Paranormal society, and it does not say the location. 969 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: But this one is also kind of a whisper voice. 970 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: What is it saying? 971 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 3: We heard again? 972 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: This one I think is harder, but it's a little 973 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: bit longer. Okay, here we go. 974 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'm hearing you're a dear heart, You're 975 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 3: it goes, You're dear. That's what I'm hearing here. 976 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: I get what you're picking up on. Here. Here's some options. 977 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: Is it a don't you tease me? Is it be 978 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm a sweetie? Is it C you don't see me? 979 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: Or d too sexy? I do think these whisper goes. 980 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but sometimes it gets late at night and 981 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: I'm listening to this and I'm like, oh, whispering in 982 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: my ear. 983 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 3: The little as mr. 984 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of sexy. Okay, so what is it saying? 985 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: One of those options? Here we go. 986 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 3: Well, It's the thing is, I can't remember the options, 987 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 3: but I heard. I'm I'm scary. 988 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: They believe it's a don't you tease me? 989 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 3: Oh, well, let's hear it again. Well, I have to 990 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 3: disagree with you. That is not what I'm hearing. But nonetheless, 991 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,959 Speaker 3: that's really creepy. 992 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: To be fair, it is hard to do this over zoom, 993 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: and it sounds best with like earphones and blah blah blah. 994 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: But I kind of hear it. I kind of hear it. 995 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what they were teasing the ghost about, 996 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: but the ghost was not having the teasing. 997 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, there's a cool TikTok series where a woman 998 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 3: has a guy uh asked the ghost questions and what 999 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 3: is it? 1000 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: What is it? 1001 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 3: She wears a sound device? Oh right, ship, I'll forget it. 1002 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 3: The point is there's so many good, good supernatural people 1003 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 3: to follow on TikTok. Sorry, really continue ignore me. 1004 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's it. I guess. 1005 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 3: So this has been so spooky and wonderful. 1006 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: You really brought it with these stories. Thank you, Jack, Oh, 1007 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: thank you youn Tell people you know where to find 1008 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 1: you find your videos and everything else going on. 1009 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 3: Oh sure, I'd be honored. Well, my YouTube channel has 1010 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 3: a playlist called Jack's Comedy Shorts, and you know, check 1011 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 3: them out. They will make you laugh larf. My name 1012 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 3: is Jack Plotnix, So if you just type that into YouTube, 1013 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 3: everything will come up. There's not that many plotinicks. That's 1014 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 3: p plot ni c K. 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