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Speaker 1: This is Count Fouche and you're watching Fish on First.

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Speaker 2: Fish Unfiltered, Episode ninety five, and it is the final

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Speaker 2: episode before the start of the Major League Baseball regular season.

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Speaker 2: We are recording this on Wednesday, March twenty fifth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth. The New York Yankees open their season tonight

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Speaker 2: against San Francisco Giants. I am your host, Isaaca Zoot,

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Speaker 2: joined by All Star reliever Aj Ramos and Kevin Barrall,

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Speaker 2: and a lot to get to today before opening day

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Speaker 2: in just a couple of days before we get to

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Speaker 2: our interview with Clayton McCullough. Kevin, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 2: We are at the ballpark today. We're at the ballpark

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Speaker 2: yesterday going over some workouts, some intersquad games. Just what

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Speaker 2: have you seen from the ball club from the twenty

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Speaker 2: six men that we expect to see take the field

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Speaker 2: on opening Day.

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest storyline is the food that they

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Speaker 3: served us today on Wednesday, phenomenal food. Marlins do their

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Speaker 3: Baseball Bites event every year and this year was no

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Speaker 3: you know, it was no different. It was awesome, but

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Speaker 3: no in all seriousness. Max Meyer through Tuesday, Chris Paddock

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Speaker 3: through today. We saw a lot of the relievers. It

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Speaker 3: was really our first my first up close look at

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Speaker 3: Pete Fairbanks on Tuesday. He's nasty. I mean, that guy's

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Speaker 3: really good. He's gonna be really really good. And then

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Speaker 3: today was our first look at Austin Slater in the

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Speaker 3: Marlins or Marlin's workout gear, not even the uniform.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, no.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff so far. I feel like at this point

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Speaker 3: you're just kind of like counting down the hours until

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Speaker 3: opening day. You kind of just want these last couple

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Speaker 3: of workout days to fly by. But Sandielle Kntroll speaks

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Speaker 3: to the media on Thursday. I know we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: Clayton on and just a little bit here, but he's

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Speaker 3: also gonna speak, I'm sure on Thursday he spoke the

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Speaker 3: last couple of days. Kyle Stowers was at the today

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Speaker 3: just like jogging is what he was doing. It seemed like.

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Speaker 3: So no major update on that end, but twenty six

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Speaker 3: man roster set Isaac as he noted, the last piece

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Speaker 3: is is going to be added by the time this

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Speaker 3: as we get closer and closer to to opening day.

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Speaker 4: I got I got a question though. You know, Stours

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Speaker 4: obviously is one of the big pieces for the team,

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Speaker 4: and so he goes down. I haven't been around the

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Speaker 4: team since that happened, but can you I know what

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Speaker 4: the excitement of opening day maybe kind of give his

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Speaker 4: guys a little more energy or excitement. Uh, but what

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Speaker 4: was the vibe did you feel when you lose like

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Speaker 4: such a big piece that were there guys down or

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Speaker 4: what have? Did you guys noticed anything like that any difference?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't sense a sense of oh shit, we're screwed it.

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Speaker 2: It is going to be we think three to four

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Speaker 2: weeks hopefully for Stours. This is a team that has

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Speaker 2: just and dealing with injuries seemingly every single year.

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Speaker 1: To open camp. Last year, they didn't have Yuri this year.

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Speaker 2: They ended last year without Stours, So obviously it does

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Speaker 2: hurt the lineup significantly, particularly to begin the year.

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Speaker 1: But you know, kudos to these guys are keeping their

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Speaker 2: They know they've got enough talent to compete in what

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Speaker 2: is a really tough division, a really tough national league.

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Speaker 2: But they know their boy will be back, their Stanford

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Speaker 2: educated boy will be back sooner rather than later. And yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: kudos to this team for keeping their heads up and

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Speaker 2: what I was gonna go to AJ this week before

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Speaker 2: Opening week? It's almost like super Bowl week between the

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Speaker 2: last spring training game and the opener. What is what

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Speaker 2: are the vibes like in the locker room?

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Speaker 1: Is just meetings? Workouts?

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Speaker 2: How do you sort of get ready to face a

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Speaker 2: sort of a week without facing anyone but each other?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that week before, it's probably got to be a

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Speaker 4: weird feeling. I don't remember ever having to experience that.

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Speaker 4: I know there was a few days where we went

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Speaker 4: Your body feels the best if you're completely healthy and

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Speaker 4: But vibes are always the highest. It's where you have

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Speaker 4: it still. So you're trying to start the season off

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Speaker 4: asking and I was hoping I got. The answer that

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Speaker 4: other guys. Now It's like, all right, that happened, But

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Speaker 4: we got to focus on the season still. You got

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Speaker 4: to find a way to shift your perspective to not

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Speaker 4: let that get you down because it's it's it's the

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Speaker 4: beginning of the new season, right, So there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of great feelings. One of my favorite interances, which is

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Speaker 4: You know, that was a weird one, but it was

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Speaker 4: it was cool. I haven't seen anyone else do that.

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Speaker 4: It was like, it was different. It was different, I'll

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Speaker 4: say that. So that was kind of fun. So that's

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Speaker 4: one of my opening day memories. When Michael Buffer said

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Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, that's one thing I do miss of

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Speaker 2: the previous regime.

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Speaker 1: They had some weird sexy things going.

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Speaker 2: On on opening days, walking out with these really good

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Speaker 2: you mentioned the buffer one, you had Mhammad Ali. There

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Speaker 2: opening day is always fun time. If you've never been

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Speaker 2: to an opening day, strongly recommend you go on Friday,

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Speaker 2: March twenty seventh under the lights Ruth should be opened,

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Speaker 2: I presume. But yeah, let's talk about the roster a

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Speaker 2: little bit here. Three guys were placed on the IL,

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Speaker 2: including cal Stowars, maximil Costa is also on the IL,

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Speaker 2: and the Esta ye Ruiz, who figures to be out

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Speaker 3: They didn't placed him on the IL though, which I

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Speaker 3: found interesting. They placed they placed major Stours. You may

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, that is the one guy who they didn't.

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Speaker 2: that guy's getting an opportunity. In this case, you could

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Speaker 2: nine is certainly going to get more of an opportunity

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Speaker 2: a strong likelihood that he may have not even made

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Speaker 1: Just Kevin, what do you see the outfield play time

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Speaker 3: It's it's weird, right because the Marlins open up against

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Speaker 3: on Sunday they have Kintana. So I mean, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: gonna be in that opening day lineup. You'd have to

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Speaker 3: interesting opening day line up because I feel like for

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Speaker 3: People need to remember this guy wasn't just sitting at

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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna say a lot more right handed

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Speaker 3: Marshy's gonna be in there every day regardless of what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight for thirty.

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Speaker 2: Did Slater go for Detroit in Great Free League play

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Speaker 2: Is what do you know about this young man that

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Speaker 1: He's by far is older than.

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Speaker 3: You saying my oldest on the team by farm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but isn't saying much because this team is extremely

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's I know he burrows up a

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Speaker 4: So I feel like he's a guy that's gonna step

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Speaker 4: You don't stick around for that long if you if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you forget that he was on that

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Speaker 2: They have their hands full with Pete Fairbanks in it,

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Speaker 2: because my goodness, that guy's personality is contagious.

435
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Speaker 4: He's he's giving me personality he give.

436
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Speaker 2: He was not happy when I said that the roof

437
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Speaker 2: should be opened much more frequently. He said, don't ever

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Speaker 2: say that again. It's too hot.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what, back in my day,

440
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Speaker 1: no one had the choice, and it was pretty freaking cool.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, well, when the roof's open and the windows

442
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 4: are open, the ball flies right.

443
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Speaker 1: Well he didn't want that.

444
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Speaker 4: As a pitcher, No, you don't want that. But what

445
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Speaker 4: I was explaining to Kevin and Eli earlier was that

446
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Speaker 4: whenever those windows were open and the roof was open,

447
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Speaker 4: I would throw my change up a little bit more

448
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Speaker 4: because guys are trying to, you know, lift the ball.

449
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Speaker 4: So I would throw something that looked like a fastball

450
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Speaker 4: but just out of the zone, and I would get

451
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Speaker 4: a lot of swings and missus right and it would

452
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Speaker 4: expand the zone for me. So, uh, there's ways to

453
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Speaker 4: manipulate that. But overall, you know, someone clips you, it's

454
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Speaker 4: a lot easier to hit a hit a homer when

455
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Speaker 4: those windows and roofs. As a fan, it's amazing when

456
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Speaker 4: the roof's open and the windows are open. It's a

457
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Speaker 4: good baseball vibe. As a player pitcher, you don't like it.

458
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Speaker 4: As a hitter, You're like, yeah, let's let's let's let

459
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Speaker 4: that wind blow out.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: No one going back to the bullpen real quick. Like

462
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Speaker 3: one guy I'm really excited to watch is Andrew Marty, Like,

463
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Speaker 3: see what that looks like in the regular season. I

464
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Speaker 3: spoke to him for a while the other day, and

465
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Speaker 3: and man, that guy really went through it. Like he

466
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Speaker 3: couldn't even put on his socks. He couldn't even get

467
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Speaker 3: out of bed, and it was it was rough. Like

468
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Speaker 3: he literally told me that at one point he couldn't

469
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Speaker 3: even see the light at the end of the tunnel.

470
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Speaker 3: And in terms of his recovery, but he had a

471
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Speaker 3: really good spring, man, he really did. He struck out nine,

472
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Speaker 3: struck out the side in his first outing. He hit

473
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Speaker 3: ninety four ninety five in that first outing. It really

474
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Speaker 3: hasn't hit since, but he's been sitting ninety two ninety three.

475
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Speaker 3: And he said, you know, I think that still plays.

476
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Speaker 3: I think that still plays at a big league level.

477
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Speaker 3: And he wants to get back to that twenty twenty

478
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Speaker 3: three selfie. He doesn't look at twenty four. Who knows

479
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Speaker 3: how much of that was impacted by his back inflammation,

480
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: which was what the diagnosis was when never really got

481
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Speaker 3: another specific one after that. But uh, yeah, I'm excited

482
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Speaker 3: for an already. I think John King has quietly had

483
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Speaker 3: a great spring training. I'm excited to see what they

484
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Speaker 3: could do with two lefties now the bullpen, the Marlins

485
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Speaker 3: have two lefties. They only had one at one point, Mate,

486
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Speaker 3: and they Jute at one pointed out the season that

487
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Speaker 3: he had they had zero, zero lefties. They were coming

488
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Speaker 3: on Lake Balker to be the guy to take out

489
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Speaker 3: the right handed hitters. So I'm really excited for what

490
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Speaker 3: the possibilities of having two left handed hitter pitchers. I'm

491
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Speaker 3: sorry in the bullpen are with with Nardian and King

492
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Speaker 3: and their two good lefties too, Like two leftis were

493
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Speaker 3: really good spring, so that should be really excited kick

494
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Speaker 3: John King quietly, I've in a really good spring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Going back to Nardie, Man, I mean when you're

496
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Speaker 4: when you come from a place where, like you mentioned,

497
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Speaker 4: it was hard to see light at the end of

498
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Speaker 4: the tunnel, and then you get the you beat the

499
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Speaker 4: odds and then you start to pitch again. It gives

500
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Speaker 4: you another level of appreciation for what you do, and

501
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Speaker 4: that can turn over to make you a better picture

502
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Speaker 4: because you're you're you're coming from a place of gratitude

503
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: and and thinks and then you translate that into just

504
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 4: every day you're maximizing it because at one point you

505
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: were thinking I may never pitch again, and then you

506
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: get the opportunity to do it again, and it allows

507
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Speaker 4: you to continue to work and really really understand what

508
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Speaker 4: you have. It's a blessing to be on the mound

509
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Speaker 4: and so h that allows you to work harder and

510
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Speaker 4: appreciate just a little bit more and that can in

511
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Speaker 4: turn make you a better picture. So definitely, you know,

512
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Speaker 4: having two lefties in the bullpen is huge. Man, that's

513
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Speaker 4: a huge thing. So I that's another reason why, like

514
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Speaker 4: Isaac said that, this is probably the strength of the

515
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Speaker 4: team right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, usually that's the norm, having at least two, especially

517
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Speaker 2: when you're starting rotation has no lefties, which is the

518
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Speaker 2: case for Miami to begin the year. Anyway, that's usually

519
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: the norm across Major League Baseball. You do never ever

520
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: break camp or ever go stay without having at least

521
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Speaker 2: a couple offended options in that bullpit, So it's just

522
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Speaker 2: surprising how okay.

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Speaker 1: They were with that last year.

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Speaker 2: Like Kevin mentioned, at times they had zero lefties. It

525
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Speaker 2: was only Vinieziano and then he would come in and

526
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Speaker 2: be used to death and then they get sent down

527
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: and they would have no lefties. So looks like that

528
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Speaker 2: won't be the case this year. You got Kad Gibson,

529
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Speaker 2: who was a really tough guy they had to send

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Speaker 2: down to make room for Nardi to open the season.

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Speaker 2: But like Clayton said, he'll be used pretty frequently throughout

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Speaker 2: this season. Last thing before we answer that interview with

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Speaker 2: Clayton McCullough. One prediction for opening Day. One prediction from

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Speaker 2: each of you. Anything could happen. We know who's probably

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Speaker 2: gonna be in the lineup, we know who's going to

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Speaker 2: start the game, and we know who's gonna be in

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Speaker 2: the lineup for Colorado. Kevin, I'll go with you first.

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Speaker 2: What's one outside the boxing that you think could happen

539
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Speaker 2: on March twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna say the funny one, which

541
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Speaker 3: would be a very Marlins thing to happen, which would

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Speaker 3: be Troy Johnston hitting a late game homer to either

543
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Speaker 3: tie the game or take the lead. The outside the

544
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Speaker 3: box one is mister Austin Slater will hit it, walk off,

545
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Speaker 3: walk off hit on opening day. He did it against

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Speaker 3: the Marlins in twenty one or twenty two. He signing

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Speaker 3: for something. Let's let's get the Marlins ten year off

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Speaker 3: to a good start.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: AJ, let's go.

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Speaker 2: And we can't say that Tyler O'Neil is going to

552
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Speaker 2: homer because unfortunately he won't be participating this game. I

553
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Speaker 2: think it's six straight opening days that he's hit a

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Speaker 2: home run for his respective team.

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Speaker 1: But AJ, what do you got?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 4: Wait, you're meaning for today, not for the Marlins opening day,

558
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Speaker 4: for the Marlins opening day, Oh, Marlins opening day. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 4: let's see, man, I'm gonna go. Sandy's gonna go. I'll

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Speaker 4: say six innings, eight k's cool.

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Speaker 2: That's a Sandy line. That's a Sandy line. Not double

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Speaker 2: digit k's, but at least a little bit more than

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Speaker 2: a kN inning.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Bert. I think Burt has a multi home run game

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Speaker 2: on opening Day at He's going to clause away to

567
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Speaker 2: that twenty five home run plateau that I predicted for

568
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Speaker 2: him on the Bolt Pediction.

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Speaker 4: So I love it.

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Speaker 3: Opening day on Friday too for those for minor league lovers.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I know Kevin's gonna have that iPad open.

572
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the real opening there right there, Come on.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, but I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the interview for Isaac, for Kevin, for a j

575
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Speaker 2: peace out, and as always, go Fish.

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Speaker 2: We are now joined by the manager of the Miami

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Speaker 2: Marlins yet again, Clayton McCullough.

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Speaker 1: Clayton clean, shaven, looking good. How are we doing today?

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Speaker 8: Doing great? Isaac, good to see you and Kevin. Thanks

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Speaker 8: for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we really appreciate the time, especially given the fact that, hey,

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Speaker 2: opening day is a little bit more than twenty four

599
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Speaker 2: hours away. I guess we can just start with the

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Speaker 2: whole ideology of opening day. What do you have a

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Speaker 2: favorite Opening day memory? Perhaps, whether whether it's player, coach, managers,

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Speaker 2: or one that sticks out.

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Speaker 8: I think I'd have to go.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 9: Twenty twenty one was my first year as a major

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Speaker 9: league coach, you know, coaching first base. We open up

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Speaker 9: in Colorado, actually coursefield and long story, short second inning, Okay,

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00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 9: Cody Bellinger hit a ball to like left center, Okay,

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Speaker 9: We had a run around first outfielder runs up, jumps

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Speaker 9: over the fence, all right, and I think it looks

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Speaker 9: like he catches it looks like Raimel Tapia brings it back.

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Speaker 9: Justin Turner had rounded second base, you know, he'd extended.

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Speaker 9: So Tapia comes down. I'm like, whow he caught that?

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Speaker 1: Holy cow?

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Speaker 8: So I'm watching JT. Did he touch second? You know

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Speaker 8: he's coming back?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't.

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Speaker 9: I forgot to look at the hitter, Bellinger, who I

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Speaker 9: should have been paying attention to. So as it turns out,

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Speaker 9: Tapia did not catch the ball. Okay, every one in

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Speaker 9: the field stops and then next thing you know, JT's

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Speaker 9: flying back to first. Here goes Bellinger.

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Speaker 1: Oh nasty.

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Speaker 9: So it's a home run. But then it becomes a single.

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Speaker 9: JT has to run the bases. We get the run,

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Speaker 9: and I wanted to crawl in a hole in course field.

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00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 9: So I think, I don't think I'll ever forget that

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Speaker 9: Opening day, guys, infamously, but a great memory it was.

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Speaker 9: You know, it was a cool moment. And then I'd say,

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Speaker 9: you know last year first, you know, first one here,

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Speaker 9: the walk off, that was you know, special in just

632
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Speaker 9: different ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the over running past base runners, it happens more

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Speaker 2: than you'd think.

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Speaker 1: It happened to JT. Real mutual.

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Speaker 2: So Marlin, if I'm not mistaken where he it was gone,

637
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: but he ran the guy on first base, ran back

638
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: to tag and he ran past him.

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Speaker 1: That's it game all right there. Yeah, but anyway, I ca.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Clay, And obviously you're you're about to wrap up

641
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: your second spring training after today's work out at the ballpark.

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Speaker 3: Just what makes this one different? You know, second year

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Speaker 3: as the manager, first year, trying to get to know

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Speaker 3: everyone in the organization. I'm sure the players are trying

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00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: to get to know you. The coaching staff. Not a

646
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: lot of changes with the coaching staff this season. Obviously

647
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: more familiarity and probably just like do you feel like

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Speaker 3: spring training was a bit smoother than year one? Like,

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Speaker 3: what do you say are the kind of the differences

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Speaker 3: that you noticed from year one, a year or two

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Speaker 3: so far?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the level of excitement for what's on

653
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 9: the horizon is just as high as it was last year.

654
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 9: And big difference is certainly the familiarity with like you said,

655
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 9: the front office, a majority of our coaching staff, the

656
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 9: majority of our players that were in you know, major

657
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 9: league spring spring training.

658
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 8: So in a lot of ways, I mean, we go

659
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 8: back to you.

660
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 9: Know, last year, we threw so many things at our

661
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 9: group that was new and it was you know, a

662
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 9: lot of ways, probably you know, a one eighty from

663
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Speaker 9: what they've been accustomed to. And then also you have

664
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Speaker 9: a lot of new faces to try to, uh to

665
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 9: get to know. But then you know, you go through

666
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 9: a whole season with a group of people and you know,

667
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 9: it just it brings you together. So going in this year,

668
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 9: it was just easy to pick up on a conversation

669
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 9: with someone or you know, you have the moments you

670
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 9: can reflect on and the inside jokes. You know, it's

671
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 9: like it's like the season never ended in some ways.

672
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 9: So for that part, I don't want to say it

673
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 9: made it easier, but certainly like there were just some

674
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 9: things that were more.

675
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 8: Natural this year that compared to the first year.

676
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 9: And you know, what we were looking to accomplish in

677
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 9: this camp was, you know, very much the same with

678
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 9: I think the ability to build on a lot of

679
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 9: things that we had organizationally put in place, and again

680
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 9: like some of the relationships and trust that we'd been

681
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 9: able to build between our players through last year.

682
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Claim you guys broke camp just a few days ago

683
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: on Sunday, and aside from tough unfortunate injury news to

684
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Stalers and Ruis, we'll get to that in a little bit,

685
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: but I think overall health wise, you have to be

686
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: pretty pleased with the way you guys came out of camp, correct.

687
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's crazy to think that, yeah only

688
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 9: you know, hey, if only three or four guys go down,

689
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 9: like that's a successful camp. I mean, but it is

690
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 9: when we you know, you start with seventy some odd players.

691
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 9: We know that unfortunately, injuries, miss time is just it's

692
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 9: a part of our sport. We're all working to, you know,

693
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 9: figure out ways to try to limit those as best

694
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 9: we can. But yeah, we were for the most part

695
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 9: healthy coming out of spring training, and you know, knock

696
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 9: on wood, you know, things changed quickly, but yeah, we were,

697
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 9: which I think made a lot of the decisions at

698
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 9: the end incredibly difficult because we had a lot of

699
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 9: players that were in competition and healthy and performing very well.

700
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: And one of the moves that you did to sort

701
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: of combat the injury to Star Wars is bring in

702
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: Austin Slater. He's going to face a lot of left

703
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: handed pitching. Do you foresee him getting any starts against

704
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: the right handed pitching?

705
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: And then also I follow up the question before.

706
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: Would be would you be in favor maybe a shortened

707
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: spring training a little bit because a month and a

708
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: half over there in camp, you're just waiting for something

709
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: to happen.

710
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll tackle that last part first, Isaac. Yeah, I

711
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 9: mean the WBC adds a little bit of linked as

712
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 9: well to spring training. I think it depends, like you

713
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 9: almost you must need the time with the pitchers unless

714
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 9: you just you know, start things with them a little

715
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 9: bit sooner and maybe away from like you know, as

716
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 9: much oversight and supervision to get what you feel like

717
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 9: is at least a build up that gives them the

718
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 9: best chance to go into the season prepared and the

719
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Speaker 9: position players, I think for sure, it's the length of it.

720
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 8: Is probably not necessary.

721
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 9: I think now guys just come in already in really

722
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 9: good physical condition. Things in that end have changed so

723
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 9: much in our industry in the last you know, fifteen

724
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Speaker 9: twenty years, and you know, once they get you know,

725
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 9: thirty roughly thirty played appearance, I bet most guys are

726
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 9: ready to go take on the season. So it's as

727
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 9: much spring training, it's definitely about the pictures and trying

728
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 9: to ensure that they get the proper type of build

729
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 9: up we saw I guess a few years ago.

730
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Speaker 8: It was it was shorter and you know, more of

731
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 8: a scramble, but I guess you know, did okay?

732
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Speaker 2: So?

733
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Speaker 9: And then with the Austin Slater question, do you think

734
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 9: but Austin can really help us out? Though it be

735
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 9: against left to say that Austin never gets a start

736
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 9: verse right, he never faces the right handed picture. You know,

737
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 9: I don't know, Like I said, things within a week,

738
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 9: within a season change you know, rapidly. But I think

739
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 9: you know, we've talked to Austin thinking that he's really

740
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 9: going to come in here and be able to help

741
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 9: us verse left take down some really big at bats,

742
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 9: whether that's starting or coming off the bench in a

743
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 9: big spot to face left. So I think that the

744
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 9: majority of his opportunity and where we'll be counting on

745
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 9: him is verse left. But you know he's going to

746
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 9: have to face some right just wait the way games

747
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 9: play out.

748
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766
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Speaker 2: And then the other other right handed hitter than in

767
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: your ball, Clive that the organization did bring in in

768
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: Christopher Morrell. He's expected to be do you for everyday

769
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: first base, but for the most part, I'm curious. You know,

770
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 2: it's been a little bit of a struggle during spring defensively,

771
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: a little bit offensively, but he did hit the ball

772
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: pretty hard.

773
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Speaker 1: I'm curious in a season where.

774
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Speaker 2: There's maybe a little bit more expectations, how much of

775
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: a runway are you guys willing to give it on

776
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: the defensive side anyway before you maybe try something else

777
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: for morell because first base it's not an easy position

778
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: to learn on the fly.

779
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 8: No it's not.

780
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 9: And I mean we have to I'm gonna have to

781
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 9: have some grace, as you said, like he's taken on

782
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 9: a brand new position as well as you know normally

783
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 9: is going to be over there, and it's going to

784
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 9: be a new spot for him. And you know, Liam

785
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 9: started what twenty twenty five games maybe last year over there, Griff,

786
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 9: you know, if he gets over there, it's his first time.

787
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 9: So I think, I mean, right now, as it stands,

788
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 9: we know that position is a little it's influx from

789
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 9: an experience standpoint, and with that generally will come some.

790
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 8: You know, some hiccups, and so I think that's just what.

791
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 9: We're going to continue to work through with all of

792
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 9: them as they get over there and get more reps.

793
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 9: And you know, I think we are We're banking on

794
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 9: the ability that Christopher you know has He's still got

795
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 9: a very you know, high engine, like he he swings fast,

796
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 9: he hits the ball hard, and you know, you know,

797
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 9: we're counting on that that hopefully we're the ones that

798
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 9: are able to you know, get the version out of

799
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 9: him that you know others have certainly hoped for. So

800
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 9: I do think that Chris is going to get some

801
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 9: some runway and some opportunity to you know, to play.

802
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 9: And we'll let you know, continued opportunities to shake out

803
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 9: with him and others as as this season moves along.

804
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: You mentioned Norby and you mentioned Griff, just talk about

805
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: their springs. Norby obviously had a really good spring, probably

806
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: as best as in big league camp, put up great numbers,

807
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: played a couple of positions for the most part, actually

808
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: looked pretty good at those positions, at first and I

809
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: think left fields where he played. What are your thoughts

810
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: on him? And then Griff, how soon do you think

811
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: he can get into a game at first base for

812
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: you guys before you guys do that.

813
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, Connor to me had had a terrific spring, and

814
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 9: I had a really good off season looking back, and

815
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 9: he finished the year in a good spot. And you know,

816
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 9: it was an up and down season from a health perspective,

817
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 9: It was up and down a little bit from performance.

818
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 9: You know, Connor grew a lot, and I think you

819
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 9: speak to Connor now and the things that he's focused on.

820
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 9: His perception of things has changed a little bit, like

821
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 9: he understands like if he in order to have a

822
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 9: start to finish productive major league season, you know what

823
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 9: you focus on and what you can control, and having

824
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 9: a really strong process plays a big part of that

825
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 9: and not chasing just a result, or chasing an arbitrary

826
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 9: set of end of season goals or back of the

827
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 9: baseball card numbers at the outset, Like you let those

828
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 9: things at the end of the year, when the dust settles,

829
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 9: they're there because you went about it. You know, very

830
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 9: very process driven, and I think his at bats at

831
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 9: the end of camp the last you know, a couple

832
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 9: of weeks were very encouraging. I think it was not

833
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 9: only the production he was showing. He was hitting the

834
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 9: ball to all fields, but it was also just the

835
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 9: bat quality, Like there was a more of a calmness

836
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 9: in the box he was he was getting in better counts,

837
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 9: he was seeing more pitches, and I think that was

838
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 9: just a byproduct of him slowing things down a little

839
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 9: bit and not feeling like everything that had to happen

840
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 9: is just when the bat started. So we do believe,

841
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 9: I do there's a good offensive player in Connor Norby,

842
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 9: and we are going to have to, you know, move

843
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 9: him around to try to find, you know, what is

844
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 9: maybe just the most optimal place that day for him

845
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 9: on the field. But it's about trying to give him

846
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 9: opportunities in the batter's box. And Connor performs offensively, you know,

847
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 9: I'll find a place for him to play. He will,

848
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 9: you know, probably take down most of his reps early on,

849
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 9: will be defensively in the field at first base. I

850
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 9: think we just feel really good I do with Graham

851
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 9: and Sonoha at third base.

852
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 8: And again, how quickly those things change.

853
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 9: I say that to you guys now in the eve

854
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 9: of opening day, and then we get a week ind

855
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 9: of the season, and I'm not sure how the landscape's

856
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 9: gonna look. But Connor will continue to you know, work

857
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 9: at third. He'll get us, he'll get starts at third,

858
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 9: first base, DH potentially in the outfield, and Griff at

859
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 9: first base.

860
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 8: I'm not sure.

861
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 9: I think it was it was as much to open

862
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 9: up that possibility with Griff, and he did a really

863
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 9: nice job I mean he did. He put in a

864
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 9: lot of work and able to get him enough game

865
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 9: reps where at least you know if he's either starting

866
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 9: a game there or depend on how things go, and

867
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 9: he slides to first base during a game that at

868
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 9: least feels comfortable enough to be able to go handle

869
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 9: himself in in a major league game with you know,

870
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 9: full transparency that you know, again like it's taken on

871
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 9: a new it's not that easy and people say, oh, yeah,

872
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 9: you get a few games over there, you know you

873
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 9: got it. So he's worked really hard and I'd have

874
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 9: confidence in putting him out there. And again, what the

875
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 9: line up combinations look like day to day, series to

876
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 9: series with individuals where they can play defensively, what I

877
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 9: think is the best matchups offensively is kind of how

878
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 9: I'll let those decisions be guided. But it is nice

879
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 9: to have at least exposed a number of players on

880
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 9: our roster to some positions that they potentially might have

881
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 9: to play this year.

882
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: This is the only lineup question we're gonna ask you

883
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: Lefty tomorrow on opening day because Hunter Ober your opening

884
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: day third baseman.

885
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 8: Connor is not going to start at third base tomorrow,

886
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 8: So no, how we'll start at third.

887
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, really quick with with with that first base,

888
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: how much do you think this would help someone like

889
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: Liam Hex like you have you know Norby, you have

890
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: Griff that could do it, PAULI could do it if

891
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: if he has to do you do you think that's

892
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: that could help someone like Liam who could focus more

893
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: on catching where we know he had a really good

894
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: year catching. If he has to play first, he will,

895
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: But how much do you think that helps Liam Hex?

896
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: Where it can he could focus solely more on catching

897
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: where now you have a little bit more at behind,

898
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: someone like a Morell at with Norby and then Griffin

899
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: and even Paul who can do it.

900
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, good question.

901
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 9: I've seen Liam's taking a ton of steps defensively behind

902
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 9: the plate, I think, and all so I think we

903
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 9: think back to Liam. I mean, this guy was you know,

904
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 9: a year ago, we had a lot of question marks

905
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 9: on Liam. How is he going to you know, handle

906
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 9: himself defensively at the major league level as a catcher

907
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 9: coming from Double A to the big leagues, And all

908
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 9: he did was get better and he's had he's had

909
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 9: a terrific spring this year behind the plate. And I

910
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 9: mean the way things are, there's very few teams now

911
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 9: I think that just have someone that catches one hundred

912
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 9: and thirty games, like you know, one hundred and forty games,

913
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 9: so it will be more of a timeshare you know,

914
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 9: back there anyway. And you know Liam's ability, he's such

915
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 9: a good he says, a good offensive player for us

916
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 9: versus right that he's going to you know, need to

917
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 9: be in the lineup most you know, every game versus

918
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 9: a right handed pitcher, and so having his ability to

919
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 9: you know, play first, which if things were to happen

920
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 9: win in the game, it makes it a little bit easier,

921
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 9: you know, if something you know, were to happen to Gus,

922
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 9: it's not like you're losing the D eight. But he's

923
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 9: also going to DH as well. So I don't think

924
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 9: it's going to be like trying to limit It won't

925
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 9: be limiting Liam's opportunities behind the plate now because we

926
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 9: have other guys that can play first. Liam has put

927
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 9: himself in a position where he's doing a really nice

928
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 9: job defensively and he's going to get a lot of

929
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 9: starts behind the plate versut right handed pitching. And there'll

930
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 9: be also sometimes because of the calendar and just how

931
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 9: the schedule's falling where he's gonna need to go play

932
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 9: somewhere else.

933
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 8: On some of those days.

934
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: Playing last season, it was a really big struggle just

935
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: controlling the run game. It was a big weakness for

936
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: the team last year. No MLB team allowed more stolen bases.

937
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: Gust and Liam are a returning set catching pandem this year,

938
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: and the rotation is just filled with the right handed pitching.

939
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 2: Are you concerned that that's going to continue a little

940
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: bit in twenty twenty six as well?

941
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 8: I know we're going to give up stolen bases.

942
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 9: I mean, so I think it was a priority for

943
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 9: us in camp, and like, yeah, part of this is certainly,

944
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 9: you know, gust and Liam continuing to improve that aspect

945
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 9: of their game. You know, just hey, you just got

946
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 9: to do your part, like you know, let's try to

947
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 9: get your exchange time down. Let's try to get you know,

948
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 9: the accuracy of your throws improved, you know, the total

949
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 9: pop time. And both guys threw the ball really well

950
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 9: in spring training, and I think we saw like the

951
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 9: aggressiveness of both of them with with ass backpicking and throwing.

952
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 9: So I want that to continue where they feel confident

953
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 9: to go, try to you know, take down outs and

954
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 9: try to you know, put a little bit of doubt

955
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 9: in the opposition's mind. And then you know, our pitchers

956
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 9: on the on the other end of it. It was

957
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 9: a big point of emphasis with look, what part of

958
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 9: it is your pickoff moves. That's one part, Like let's

959
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 9: try to improve your pickoff moves. And we saw like

960
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 9: during camp we'd have targets set up, we were having

961
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 9: them try to make their pitch designs, their live vps a.

962
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 8: Little bit more game realistic.

963
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 9: We're building in some pickoffs within those sessions, trying to

964
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 9: heighten some some focus there and intentionality, and they guys

965
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 9: did a great job. And then okay, now the next

966
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 9: part is okay, can you get to you know, a

967
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 9: delivery or have something that helps you get a little

968
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 9: bit quicker at home plate? And now how is your

969
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 9: ability to execute as well as like hold your stuff

970
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 9: with that holding the ball.

971
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 8: Vary in time.

972
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 9: So we're gonna give up stolen bases. I mean that's

973
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 9: us and everyone else. We hope we're better than we

974
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 9: were last year. I think we're you know, we'll we

975
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 9: try to take some measures to you know, improve that

976
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 9: and we've just said that we know they're going to

977
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 9: happen if we can limit.

978
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 8: We can limit some attempts.

979
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 9: If you can hold a guy there for an extra pitch,

980
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 9: you know, an extra couple pitches that might be the

981
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 9: one where the balls put in play and now you

982
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 9: know some action is happening. So I think that's it

983
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 9: just trying to limit some of the attempts and not

984
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 9: you know, you know, let it just be where they're

985
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 9: able to open up a high number of players.

986
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 8: On their roster that can you know, are in play

987
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 8: to run.

988
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: On the flip side, you guys stay a lot of

989
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: bases at spring training and even throughout the offseason with

990
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 3: the additions you look at a Ruiz unfortunately on the al,

991
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 3: but even through the trades you added a Dylan Lewis

992
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: or Brendan Jones, and even lower in the minor leagues,

993
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 3: a lot of guys steal a lot of bases, a

994
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: lot of high base a lot of base stealers to

995
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: say the least. And and that's seems like that was

996
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: a big focus for you guys to spring and we

997
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: saw it last season too. You got still a lot

998
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: of bases, even aj Ramos, who we were recording our

999
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Bold Predictions episode with said that he thinks you guys

1000
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: are going to be top three in baseball and.

1001
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 1: Stolen bases this upcoming season.

1002
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: How much of an emphasis was that for you guys

1003
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 3: to steal bases a spring and how much do you

1004
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: think that can help you guys, especially at the start

1005
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: of the season now where you lose a little bit

1006
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: of power with soturs out.

1007
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, we do think it's needs to be an important

1008
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 9: part of our offense. One way, we have a lot

1009
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 9: of I mean we do. We have a youthful roster, right,

1010
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 9: so with you know, youthful usually comes uh, you know, athleticism,

1011
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 9: some speed, and we feel like we have that not

1012
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 9: only with the group we have here that are going

1013
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 9: to break with us to start the season, but also

1014
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 9: littered throughout our minor league system.

1015
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 8: We have a lot of you know, very athletic players

1016
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 8: that are capable and.

1017
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 9: It Yeah, we've got to find ways to score runs, right,

1018
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 9: and it's not always created equal, and we do we

1019
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 9: have a team that if you look at like that,

1020
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 9: some of the things strengths offens is that we have

1021
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 9: a lot of guys who put the ball in play

1022
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 9: right and so Yeah, we're going to put the ball

1023
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 9: in play some and the base stealing will be, we hope,

1024
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 9: an important component of us putting pressure on people and

1025
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 9: creating run scoring opportunities.

1026
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 8: Then also just the ability to run the.

1027
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 9: Bases at a high level and to be able to

1028
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 9: take advantage of times where we get an extra ninety

1029
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 9: feet and we put ourselves in score and position or

1030
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 9: get to third with less than two. That now, you know,

1031
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 9: makes that ball in play even for an out more important.

1032
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 9: And so I think that we'll again try to play

1033
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 9: off what we feel like is a strength of our

1034
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 9: team from an athletics standpoint, and Craig Driver a great addition.

1035
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 8: He's been all in along with a number of our

1036
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 8: minor league base running coaches.

1037
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 9: Those guys spend a lot of time this offseason talking

1038
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 9: about base running, talking about base stealing technique, and then

1039
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 9: we took it into this spring training and made it

1040
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 9: a priority. We did like a lot of the mornings

1041
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 9: they had a base stealing session where it was you know,

1042
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 9: it is it's different techniques and looking at different tells

1043
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 9: on pitchers. So what we believe it's something that we

1044
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 9: should and we'll be able to weaponize this year.

1045
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 2: Entering spring, you guys talked about approaching this twenty twenty

1046
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: sixth season with a little bit of urgency, obviously like

1047
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: every single major league season. What exactly does that look

1048
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: like compared to last season, where the expectations.

1049
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: Were perhaps not as high.

1050
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: So I want to win ball games, but this year

1051
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: maybe there's a little bit more pressure to win. So

1052
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: how will we how will you be managing differently with

1053
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: those set expectations.

1054
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 9: I think for me personally, I don't know if I'm

1055
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 9: going to look at like managing the game as a

1056
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 9: whole lot differently. I mean, I think you know, everybody's

1057
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,479
Speaker 9: going to have their own opinions on who should finish

1058
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 9: games and like you know, what's the lineup, and like

1059
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 9: how's the bullpen going to go? I think we'll like, look,

1060
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 9: what we're still going to try. Developing our players is

1061
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 9: not something that we're going to change. And that's not

1062
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 9: this year, next year, five years from now, right, and

1063
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 9: so always looking to get guys better is what we do.

1064
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 9: And that doesn't mean we're not trying to win a

1065
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 9: game every night, Like we go out there that night and.

1066
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 8: It's to win.

1067
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 9: If that means someone gets pinch hit for, or someone

1068
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 9: gets replaced defensively, or you know this particular guy comes

1069
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 9: in to pitch, Like, those are decisions I'm trying to

1070
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 9: make every night to give us a chance to win

1071
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 9: that game. But also, we don't play one hundred and

1072
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 9: sixty two singular games once a week, like there's games

1073
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 9: the next day and the next day. So it's what

1074
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 9: sets us up the best tonight, I think, to try

1075
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 9: to win, and if not, then what's gonna give us

1076
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 9: the best chance to win a game tomorrow.

1077
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 8: So the sense of.

1078
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 9: Urgency I wanted our group to feel was we're not

1079
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 9: guaranteed just because hey, we won more games than people

1080
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 9: thought last year, that automatically this year, well that means

1081
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 9: we'll take another big jump and we're gonna win eighty

1082
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 9: eight games, we're gonna win ninety games. And just because

1083
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 9: you spend a full year in the major leagues that

1084
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 9: all of a sudden like, yeah, next year, you'll just

1085
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 9: do better.

1086
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 8: Like it doesn't work that way, No, So it wasn't.

1087
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 9: You couldn't just roll into camp and think that now

1088
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 9: that I've done this, I'll automatically just be better through

1089
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 9: us Moses Like, no, like our team and individuals aren't

1090
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 9: gonna just get better because because you know el is

1091
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 9: trying to get better as the rest of the league,

1092
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 9: and you know everyone is. So I wanted our group

1093
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 9: this year while I could care less about the predictions

1094
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 9: and what people think we may or may not do,

1095
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 9: but us coming in this year and not expecting that

1096
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 9: all just because we did. You know, we were a

1097
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 9: nice little story last year that you know it's just

1098
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 9: going to be rolled out and be better this year.

1099
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 1: Claim final two for me. I know you're busy.

1100
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: We're, like I said, a day away from opening day,

1101
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: your second career opening day at the Helm. I have

1102
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: to ask you, are you concerned at all about a

1103
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Troy Johnson revenge series this weekend?

1104
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 8: I think always concern with those players. It seems like

1105
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 8: guys who change teams, there is something to that.

1106
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 9: So happy and excited for Troy's first opening day major

1107
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 9: league roster.

1108
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 8: Happy for Troy. I mean, look, Troy came up and

1109
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 8: did some nice.

1110
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 9: Things for us last year, and I know he's a

1111
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 9: real he's a friend of fish on first and so

1112
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 9: excit I did for Troy. And then when we play

1113
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 9: this weekend, I will not be pulling for Troy or

1114
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 9: any of that.

1115
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you gotta feed him those lefties. You gotta

1116
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: feed him King and you gotta feed them Nardi.

1117
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: If not, who knows. I don't want that to happen

1118
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: laying in a ballgame.

1119
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: But last one year, Clayton, before we let you go,

1120
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: One Bowl prediction for the twenty twenty six Miami Marlins,

1121
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: either individual or team wide.

1122
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 8: Xavier Ewards wins the National League Goal Glove at second base.

1123
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: Wow, there we go. That's great. I like it, all right, Miami.

1124
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: That's a great way to end it. Thank you very

1125
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: much again, Clayon. We really appreciate the time.

1126
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can do this again sometime during the season.

1127
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: And best of luck to you this weekend.

1128
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 8: All right, thanks a lot, guys.

1129
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah,