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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: betting show that makes the square sharper and makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, my companion Mike

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Speaker 1: and Padre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter Eto Simon.

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Speaker 2: Hello, mister first place Bears. How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: We feel you know, it's so pathetic. I thought to

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Speaker 1: myself today. The football teams that I love the most,

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears and the Indiana Hoosiers, are two of

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Speaker 1: the best teams in all of the land.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 1: They are a combined twenty one and three, and one

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Speaker 1: of them is undefeated and playing for the Big Ten

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Speaker 1: title this weekend. Feels pretty good, pretty pretty pretty good, Simon.

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Speaker 2: I would say people that figure exact deprescription, people that

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Speaker 2: are Bears fans and the fans. Even though it's only

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Speaker 2: November thirtieth, who cares. It's like I would could care less.

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Speaker 2: It's I know it's a little early, but expectations wise

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Speaker 2: did not see either of these scenarios happening as we

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Speaker 2: head Intocember here, So I would say, pretty pretty insane

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Speaker 2: times for both those fan bases. And like you said,

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Speaker 2: it's every game that we've been talking for a months

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Speaker 2: about the spairits every game is must see now. The

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Speaker 2: fact they're in control of their own destiny, home field

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Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs. Come on, who cares? What's their points there?

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Speaker 2: French one plus nine? Who cares? It's it's what we

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Speaker 2: love about football. Titans. What was that four or five

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Speaker 2: years ago they got they got the one seed. It

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Speaker 2: can happen, right, So with Ryan Tannehill, Yeah, with Ryan

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Speaker 2: Tannel exactly.

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Speaker 1: I've watched more tiktoks of Ben Jonson taking his shirt

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Speaker 1: off so the entire city of Chicago could get free

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Speaker 1: Wiener Circle. Then I care to admit I just love

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Speaker 1: the spirit. I love the way he's galvanizing this team

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Speaker 1: and the city is behind him, and he's he turned

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Speaker 1: himself that night, that night when he took off his

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Speaker 1: shirt so the entire city could get free hot dogs.

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Speaker 1: I think he made himself a hero for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life in that town.

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Speaker 3: He understood this is the magic of Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 1: He understands who he's coaching for, not just the team

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Speaker 1: and the players, but for the city itself.

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Speaker 3: He totally gets it. He's bought in.

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Speaker 1: He understands the connection, he understands the people, like I

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Speaker 1: am all in on this all in the other night,

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Speaker 1: I'm so in. I'm so in the other night at Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: we were sitting around the table and my dad was

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Speaker 1: asking my younger son, who goes to Maryland, where the

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Speaker 1: other kids from his pledge class. He just finished pledging fraternity.

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Speaker 1: He's been, you know, went through Hell Week and whatever,

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Speaker 1: and he has. My dad was asking where the other

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Speaker 1: kids from, and he was naming all the places they're

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Speaker 1: from a lot of Maryland, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. My dad's I go, No. One

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Speaker 1: from Chicago, and I tapped him. I'm like, I tapped

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Speaker 1: my son. I'm like, well, you're from Chicago. I forgot

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Speaker 1: he was born and raised in Connecticut. Because I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: so much about the Bears right now, I just assumed

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Speaker 1: we were in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I'm so im mature right now. I have about fifty

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Speaker 2: Williams or free Weeny jokes lined up, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna say any of them.

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Speaker 1: Love your Class Act our final five Today we're in

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans plus four and a half. That's a win.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland plus five and a half. That's a loss.

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Speaker 3: The New York j e Ts Jet Jet Jets.

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Speaker 1: Plus two and a half. Miraculous win. Pittsburgh plus three

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Speaker 1: and a half, it's a loss. We got the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants plus seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Our last one's out one of the Tennessee Titans plus

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Speaker 1: six and a half. Thanks freaking God. Three teams today

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Speaker 1: basically played one sided football with no offensive support whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: We bet on two of them, the Steelers and the Browns.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers, Browns, and Seahawks combined for fifteen points. None

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Speaker 1: includes the Seahawks, who were shut out. Oh boy, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that game too a little bit

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Speaker 1: because it was. It was devastating to watch. If you're

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Speaker 1: a Vikings fan right now. This season, the Jets won

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Speaker 1: on a last second kick. This season, there have been

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Speaker 1: more game winning scores in the final two minutes or

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Speaker 1: overtime than any other season in NFL history. Nick Folk

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Speaker 1: won with a fifty six yard game winning kick. Thank God,

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Speaker 1: because you've challenged me on the Jets versus the Titans,

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Speaker 1: and I decided to own the responsibility of putting the

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Speaker 1: one watching that Jets Falcons game, and it was.

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Speaker 3: It was miserable. I'm just going to tell you that

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Speaker 3: you ready to get into.

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Speaker 2: It, Yeah, let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Apples at Houston.

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Speaker 1: Houston was a late entry for us, Like we hadn't

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Speaker 1: really talked about the Texans at all. If anything, we

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Speaker 1: were going we were leaning towards the Colts, but we

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Speaker 1: Stroud was playing. That was never really a factor to me.

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Speaker 1: It was really about the injuries to Daniel Jones. The

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Speaker 1: and it turns out it is because he might be

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Speaker 1: playing on a broken leg. Great game, great win for

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Speaker 1: the Texans, Simon, great great win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and crazy to turn around their season they've had.

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Speaker 2: But we talked earlier the year it couldn't keep going right,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't keep losing. They have such a great defense,

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Speaker 2: and like you said, it's Colts. We started on that side,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like it was the right side and

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Speaker 2: the more as we went along and you heard the

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Speaker 2: injury news that that should flip everyone right, And really

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Speaker 2: the Texans, you know, they try to give it away

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Speaker 2: a couple of different times, but like you said, Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones just simply couldn't take advantage of it. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think jj wadteed a great stat, simple stat, but

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Speaker 2: it is a great step. They've won every game basically

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Speaker 2: he doesn't. So that just makes sense for that cold team.

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Speaker 2: Like we talked early the year, he was their MVP.

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Speaker 2: He was so dominant and they could go as far

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Speaker 2: back to he's their MVP, but they still need Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones to make those plays, and right now he's not

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Speaker 2: to start the year. They've kind of falling apart. And

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Speaker 2: this Texans defense once again just stepped up every time

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Speaker 2: we need him. Step on that game they kind of

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Speaker 2: the CJ back, you know, as great as David Smills

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Speaker 2: this was a real test and this is like a

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Speaker 2: divisional setting type of game like that. Both teams took

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Speaker 2: this as a playoff game. So CJ really stepped up

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Speaker 2: and it's some big time throws and you know that

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Speaker 2: it sucks for the Colts. They went all in, right,

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Speaker 2: they went and got sauce, and you saw in that

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Speaker 2: this game changer, but it was a big deal, Like

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I actually think it was a big deal because that

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Speaker 1: CJ stroud, he was okay, Like, there are so many

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Speaker 1: issues with this offense, and I don't know, We're now

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Speaker 1: there's offensive line reasons, there's running game issues, there's play

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Speaker 3: Had the full compliment. But there were times today when CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud did get the ball downfield, especially some good throws

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Speaker 1: They were at the fifteen late in the game. They

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Speaker 1: Their defense is great them, the Browns, the Vikings like

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Speaker 1: those are great defenses that are so hampered by offenses

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like their offenses up and down, But I mean,

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Speaker 2: they do enough every week to win, so it's hard

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Speaker 2: to get too upset with it. Where all of these

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Speaker 3: So sad? It is so sad.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact they were five and a half point underdogs to

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Speaker 1: the Niners. Let's talk about the fact that the Niners.

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Speaker 1: What was the final score, like twenty six to eight

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Speaker 1: The Niners scoring drives. Four of their five scoring drives

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Speaker 1: them to kick the field goal. Other than that, everything

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Speaker 1: they did was on a short field. How are the Browns,

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Speaker 1: who were awesome supposed to be defending that they can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I was going to do shame on the

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Speaker 2: special teams of the Browns team, but I got someone else.

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Speaker 2: I want a shame. But I agree with you, by

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Speaker 2: the way, it felt like that's what caused us the

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Speaker 2: game in every aspect, right. The special teams, you know,

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Speaker 2: they give up that punt. I think they got down

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Speaker 2: in and that's how they get their touchdowns. They get,

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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of plays here and there that

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Speaker 2: their part, they're holding up. This was really you know,

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Speaker 2: even though brock Pretty this stat sheet, it's not anything special.

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Speaker 2: When sixty eight one touchdown to me, he had a

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Speaker 2: why Pretty is a start in the league. Right. What

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Speaker 3: So uh.

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Speaker 1: There were two special teams players that you're talking about

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Speaker 3: Still in the game. Uh, the ball is sailing out

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Speaker 3: Carries him out of bounds. So now the Browns, no.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's right. It goes out of bounds. It goes

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Speaker 3: Right, That's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the easiest tricks that more guys do.

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Speaker 1: So now the Browns are backed up and they have

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Speaker 1: It's like, what are the Browns supposed to do? There's

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Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: After the game, the Browns defenders ripped Juwan Jennings for comments.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the comments are.

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Speaker 1: It's not reported that he had during the game that

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Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I'm shock he has been punching the mouth yet. I

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Speaker 1: Like, it's interesting to me for the second week in row,

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Speaker 3: That's leading to some action.

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Speaker 2: Last week, Yeah, we need more devo receivers. We had

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, DK Metcalf tried to be one for

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Speaker 1: This is the one sign in New York Jets plus

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Speaker 1: two and a half. This was an ugly game, back

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Speaker 3: Did you watch any of this game?

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Speaker 2: Of course? I bet it. It was our we gave

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My own issue was it was just we didn't

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Speaker 2: My only issue was we were taking a bad number

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Speaker 2: a thousand different ways. Right, But, like we always say,

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Speaker 2: The fact that you know they scored seven points in

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Speaker 2: It's jests team fifty yard bombs and you know pun

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Speaker 3: And missed field goals going both ways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just I I know people who work for

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Speaker 2: I don't really care what the ownership or whoever's telling

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Speaker 2: He's been told, I am for sure that he needs

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Speaker 2: he gets a touchdown with two minutes left, Yes, Aaron

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Speaker 2: he needs to go for two in that exact scenario,

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Speaker 2: because it's great they go up one, they're gonna win,

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Speaker 2: or even better, they're they lost now because they're down

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Speaker 2: oh my god, all right, me and Chat gonna hold

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Speaker 2: onto this one here. And I think Kirk got it twice.

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Speaker 2: He got it, punted, got it back and then God

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Speaker 2: bless Kirk. He's just so bad. They got it. He

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Speaker 2: he really didn't. And yeah, it's exactly what we talked about,

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Speaker 2: though we faded it because it's like Kirk is now

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Speaker 1: Him without Drake London, without Drake London, and I do

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Speaker 3: Have anyone he can rely on.

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Speaker 1: It's play fine, but Darnold Mooney was kind of non existent.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the game he alligator armed

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Speaker 1: Sills number eighty seven on the Falcons. He dropped a

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Speaker 3: It was exciting. It was truly awesome to watch this game.

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Speaker 1: I never felt like I actually never felt like the

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Speaker 2: Just the whole time was like, my god, is this

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Speaker 2: just that, Like you just said, all the mitsfield goals.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's it's not landing on the two

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Speaker 2: I really thought it was gonna be a one or

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Speaker 3: What was I loved?

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Speaker 1: I thought he might go for for two. What's interesting

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Though he's just in his mind though,

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Speaker 2: like I'm not playing to get you a better draft pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to win. And you know, if you're trying

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Speaker 2: you kick the extra point there. The Jets are not

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Speaker 2: that team. They won the number one pick, Like, what

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Speaker 2: I thought they were. I thought they would bring him

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Speaker 2: if you can't, like they're he's.

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Speaker 1: Saving saying he keeps winning, they're going to have to

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Speaker 2: Not listening to him. But I'm with you, it's good

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Speaker 2: Austin talk these quarterbacks, but there might only be one

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Speaker 1: It's and I think they're obviously going to get rid

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Speaker 1: like seven in a row. They're three and nine on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not even going to be back until

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Speaker 1: you going to have?

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Speaker 2: I would love that job as a coach though, Like,

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Speaker 2: you got a good line, you could have a high

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Speaker 2: pick to get a quarterback, and you have all the

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Speaker 2: weapons like you have Drake, you have the running back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I have all the spots that are

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Speaker 2: coming up. Like there's there's gonna be some ugly coaching opportunities.

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Speaker 2: This feels like a pretty good one.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a little bit more about uh Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Taylor and the Jets in a minute. Buffalo at Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh plus three and a half.

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Speaker 3: Dude, this first half was so.

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Speaker 1: Freaking ugly and chippy, and the whole game got ugly

451
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Speaker 1: and chippy. Cam Hayward constantly in Josh Allen's face. There

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Speaker 1: were multiple personal foul calls that weren't even part of

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Speaker 1: the play. They were after the play, with people acting

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Speaker 1: like idiots, like this was such an ugly game, and

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Speaker 1: then the wheels came off for the Steelers as soon

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Speaker 1: as the second half started, Aaron Rodgers getting literally bloodied

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Speaker 1: and having to leave the game. That to me was

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Speaker 1: sort of the perfect example of what this game became

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I know, like tease us chat it felt so good

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Speaker 2: that first half.

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Speaker 3: It was all so real, so real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just exactly like we know, Pittsburgh's a

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Speaker 2: shitty team, but you saw that first half. That's how

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Speaker 2: they win and steal these games, right, They play really

466
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Speaker 2: good defense, keep guys in front of them, steal the ball,

467
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Speaker 2: get turnovers, offensively, play smart, play simple. But my god,

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Speaker 2: Rogers probably should not have played this week. He was

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Speaker 2: just nothing first out there, and whatever happened at halftime,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't get over how bad it started

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Speaker 2: for us. Where like you said, he came out, what

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Speaker 2: is there fourteen to fifty five on the clock, so

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Speaker 2: it's literally the first NUW first play. Yeah, he gets

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Speaker 2: hit stripsack Like you said, bloody knows they have they

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Speaker 2: kick it off right away, no commercial break, right, this's

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Speaker 2: just well there's.

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Speaker 3: Strip sack and the Bills score.

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Speaker 1: So it goes from being seven to three Steelers at

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Speaker 1: the half, they have the ball, they could drive down

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Speaker 1: the field potentially score, and instead it's now ten to

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Speaker 1: seven Bills. Aaron Rodgers is out of the game, Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph is in the game, and for a second I

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Speaker 1: said to myself, maybe it'll be better.

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Speaker 2: And again at the halftime, I think it was minus

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Speaker 2: three and a half Pittsburgh. So it's not like the

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Speaker 2: books thought the Bills were about to come back, like

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Speaker 2: like you said, it was a good spot for Pittsburgh

488
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Speaker 2: to be in. Mason comes in throws a pick. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: even then, I'm still not freaking out at this point.

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Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, we'll see their defensive beginning yards, but

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Speaker 2: they've been holding them to three. And it really did

492
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Speaker 2: come down that fourth down play like we've seen it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we didn't talk about the things

494
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Speaker 2: Ginning game, but that Green Bay game against the lines

495
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Speaker 2: dictated by fourth down touchdowns like these are huge flips,

496
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Speaker 2: not just the totals obviously, but the spreads. Definitely a

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Speaker 2: fifth just for the Bills momentum wise. And you know,

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Speaker 2: if if I would have came to before the game,

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Speaker 2: it said, hey, let's fade Josh Allen here. He's only

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Speaker 2: gonna throw it for one hundred and twenty three yards.

501
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Speaker 2: You would sign up for that. One hundred and twenty

502
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Speaker 2: three yards and a touch at an interception and a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: You're not used to the Bills winning that way with

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Speaker 2: him on the road. But we saw something we've never

505
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Speaker 2: seen before, which is historical. You know what was it?

506
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Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty yards rushing, most.

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Speaker 1: Rushing yards against a Steelers team at home in fifty years.

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Speaker 1: The last time it happened, by the way, Buffalo Bills

509
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Speaker 1: against the Steelers fifty years ago.

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Speaker 2: And I told you the Eagles against your Bears gave

511
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Speaker 2: up the most rushing yards in Eagles history since nineteen

512
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Speaker 2: sixty two. So we had two franchises at home give

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Speaker 2: up the most rushing yards they ever had. This is again,

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Speaker 2: it's stuper corny. We've been talking about. It's not the

515
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Speaker 2: football we are used to from the two thousands to

516
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Speaker 2: what it's become now. The running back, not that it's

517
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Speaker 2: the Eagles blueprint, right, They didn't invent leaning into the

518
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Speaker 2: run depending on the run, but all these teams have

519
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Speaker 2: leaned into it, and we've seen a total shift in

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Speaker 2: the league, where you know, teams got small to catch

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Speaker 2: up with speed to stop these spread offenses. And now

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Speaker 2: you're seeing teams like the Bills, who you saw they

523
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Speaker 2: couldnot pass block. Those two tackles in there, could not

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Speaker 2: plast blocking. Know they could do they could run block.

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Speaker 2: Those are the big ass human beings. And when you're

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Speaker 2: just moving guys like they were, I mean, Romo is

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Speaker 2: losing his mind. The Steelers would not bring in a

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Speaker 2: corner to cover the edge. I feel like any time

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Speaker 2: Cooks wanted to go outside and pick up ten you

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Speaker 2: could get.

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Speaker 1: He would just he would like jump jump, run, jump cut,

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Speaker 1: go right Tony Romo diagrammed it eight thousand times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the third quarter, the Steelers finally

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Speaker 1: had a drive to start the fourth quarter, and of

536
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Speaker 1: course they got down to fourth and two outside the ten,

537
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Speaker 1: and their creative play calling, not running misdirection, not trying

538
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Speaker 1: to throw over the top of the defense. It was

539
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Speaker 1: basically run into the middle of the defensive line out

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Speaker 1: of shotgun. So of course they turned the ball over

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Speaker 1: on downs. Before that series, the Bills had three hundred

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Speaker 1: total yards. The Steelers had ninety total yards. That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And it's a bad Bills defense. This is not a

544
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Speaker 2: great Bill's defense. So that's the most alarming part of it.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers in the first half combined,

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Speaker 1: what do they have? Five MVPs between the two of

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Speaker 1: them combined, they were twelve of twenty five for one

548
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Speaker 1: hundred and four total yards. Six to twelve for Josh Allen,

549
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Speaker 1: six of thirteen for Aaron Rodgers, fifty yards for Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: fifty four yards for Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it was atrocious,

551
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Speaker 1: atrocious football.

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Speaker 3: But congrats to the Bills.

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Speaker 1: You know they did a huge win, huge, huge win

554
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Speaker 1: for the Bills, and congrass Josh Allen NFL record seventy

555
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Speaker 1: sixth rushing touchdown. That's the most rushing touchdowns by a

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Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history passing.

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Speaker 3: Do you knew who he passed?

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Speaker 2: I do not. Fran Tarkenton, Cam Newton. There you go.

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Speaker 1: at another shot. He wants to know if we can

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Speaker 1: stop betting the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I'm with another.

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Speaker 1: Shot, like I felt like we had been getting away

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Speaker 1: with it. We've lost the mojo on the Mike Tomlin spots.

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Speaker 1: This is not a very good team. Their defense is

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Speaker 1: giving up the most yardage they've given up in the

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin era. The offense is as unimaginative as ever,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers is injured and hobbled. What are we

603
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: doing with the Steelers team? I feel like we got

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Speaker 1: to jump off this bandwagon here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. I'm with the guy, but it's just

606
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: there's certain spots where they just fills up the gray

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00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: under Valley and we'll eventually have to jump on them.

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00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, for contest wise, if we can avoid the

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Speaker 2: rest of the year, I'm with the guy. I'd be

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Speaker 2: very happy not to have them in our contest.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, and next week I think they have to

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Speaker 1: buy Next week, don't they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they're playing Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: They're six and a half point underdogs at the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: No doubt they're gonna tempt us with exactly when we

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Speaker 1: want to walk away, they're going to pull us back

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Speaker 1: in with an ugly game against a struggling Ravens team

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Speaker 1: and a big number where we're going to be off

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Speaker 1: the bandwagon. And of course that's going to be one

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Speaker 1: we want to bet the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I on losing half my money on that Ravens money line.

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Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's going to say how the Ravens lose

624
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: that and that that spot against a one armed quarterback

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Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers came to hand the ball off properly.

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Speaker 1: Right now, This is an interesting question too, and then

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Speaker 1: we've got one more, but I want to go to

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Speaker 1: this one first. Joe Connolly wants to know, excluding the

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Speaker 1: old Guard Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, which team in the

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Speaker 1: AFC do we think is most likely to take over

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Speaker 1: that position and get to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's a ton of unproven guys that's top

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Speaker 2: of the AFC.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, it's not Indy anymore like Daniel hobbled

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Speaker 1: I'm Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, if I'm still a betting man,

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Speaker 2: you're just hoping the Bills get in there. You feel

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00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: comfortable with the Bills. I still see a path for

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs. But if the Chiefs don't make it, the

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Speaker 2: Bills don't make it, and I'm forced to pick teams

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Speaker 2: out of everybody, probably gonna end up on Denver. They

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Speaker 2: just they have a coach who's done it before, and

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00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: that's a big deal when the rest of the coaches

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Speaker 2: he's going against, you know, Hardball obviously has but it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's a unique spot. With this Embers team, They're

646
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Speaker 2: probably gonna have the best defense left in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's why New England's a fun team because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, I mean, guys again took it as offense.

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Speaker 2: They just give me the major. Drake makes the major.

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz vibes the year he med that MVP run

651
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: of just really athletic in the pocket, great deep ball

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Speaker 2: thrower in the offense. That's humming. They they might have

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Speaker 2: known any better like that. That's what's so fun about

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Speaker 2: New England. They might not know any better, and they

655
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Speaker 2: get the right matchups, they also could make that run.

656
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would say any team would be exciting.

657
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: Unless you're a Jags fan. It's just like you're waiting

658
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: for the You're waiting for the shooter to drop. So yeah,

659
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: for right now leading their division, Ravens Denver, New England,

660
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: I think all those fan bases should be really excited

661
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: because the Bills the Chiefs said they're not they're not

662
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: a lock to make the playoffs. Yet it's really interesting.

663
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: Also, I would say the Texans, if they can figure

664
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: out any offensive.

665
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: You just buried them.

666
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: You just buried them.

667
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: But like the problem is, you talk about defense, right

668
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: Like I when I was when I was thinking about

669
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: the answer to that question, I was thinking the Broncos

670
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: first and foremost because they've got such a good defense.

671
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: But bo Nicks is unreliable, and as much as Sean

672
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Payton is a coaching genius, he still has to figure

673
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: out ways to manage bow Knicks in really specific situations

674
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: and hope that bow Nicks can execute on his vision.

675
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Right.

676
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: He needs to be the perfect avatar for whatever Sean

677
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: page and is trying to call in any scenario. The

678
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Texas defense is just as good, you know. The Texas

679
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: defense could be even better than the Broncos defense. They've

680
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: got an incredible pass rush, they've got a great secondary,

681
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: they keep teams from scoring points like this is a

682
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: really historically great defense potentially, and they got the same thing.

683
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: But I think that there's probably more trust in CJ

684
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: and less trust in what they can do offensively because

685
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: of their play calling, you know what I mean.

686
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: I do think you just have high expectations for both though,

687
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: like not to be the backer of bow Knicks, but

688
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: he's had some impressive fourth quarter comebacks this season that

689
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: I'd give him a ton of respect to that Houston

690
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: defense you just talked about. He had two huge drives.

691
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: We lost that bet. He scored eleven points against that

692
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: dominant Houston defense on the road and burned us. He

693
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: beat us, yet we had Houston. So I agree with you.

694
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: I don't like them or trust them. But whatever the

695
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: magic did was this kid in the fourth quarter. He

696
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: has nothing for three quarters and he shows up in

697
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: these big moments. So I don't know. It's just like

698
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, like the Gid asked a

699
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: really good question like this, We're an untrod of water

700
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: right now, and I don't know. I just still I'd

701
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: rather take Drake may or Bow over Lamar beuse I've

702
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: just seen Lamar choke so many times in the playoffs,

703
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: So I just have an a hard time trust Lamore

704
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: even I feel like that's probably the easy answer.

705
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: One of the other questions that we just got from

706
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell that came in from Joe connolly was about

707
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. His question was, and I want to sit

708
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: now because I want to lead into talking about that

709
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Minnesota game for a second. His question was, would JJ

710
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: McCarthy ask for a trade? JJ McCarthy is not asking

711
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: for a trade. The Vikings might decide to trade JJ

712
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: McCarthy because they just don't think he's good enough and

713
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: they're going to try to figure out can they get

714
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, you know, someone who can play within Kevin

715
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: O'Connell's system and actually deliver the ball to Justin Jefferson

716
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: delivered the ball to Jordan Addison. I thought, you know,

717
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: in the game today, Minnesota is a twelve point underdog.

718
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: And if not for all of the.

719
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Turnovers and Max Brosmer not really knowing the difference between

720
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: a Viking's uniform and a Seahawks uniform, they keep that

721
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: game close. I know you're gonna say I'm crazy, but

722
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: the only touchdown the Vikings the Seahawks scored of the

723
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: first nineteen points they scored was a pick six where

724
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Brosmer on a fourth and one was about to go

725
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: down and underhanded it directly to a Seahawks player, Ernest Jones,

726
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: who ran it back ninety years for a touchdown.

727
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: Their defense was in Donald's.

728
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: Grill all day, including two sacks and two forced fumbles

729
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: in the first twenty minutes of the game.

730
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's another reason why a lot of people

731
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: have pauls about Sam Dono, because certain teams know how

732
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: to play them, and they can look very foolish and uncomfortable,

733
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 2: and once you get the little rattled, it doesn't really

734
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: go away. So I don't I'm not hating you read,

735
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: but the whole reason I wouldn't let us touch this

736
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: when it's just like, dude, I told you, I try

737
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: to watch film on this kid. I'm just like, this

738
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: kid looks like he's about to die today. So I

739
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: need to turn this off because I'm going to talk

740
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: myself out of this in a second. And you know,

741
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: even when he did have good throws, you knew what

742
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: the deal was going to be. He was gonna be

743
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: highly inconsistent. It's his first start in a really, you know,

744
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: terrible environment to be in. And he's not a first

745
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: round pick. He's not a kid that's been playing sec

746
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: football his whole life. Man, this is not that type

747
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: of situation. So you know, him throwing four picks, taking

748
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: four sacks, it's against arguably the best defense, number two,

749
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: number three defense in all football right now. So, like

750
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: you said, it's your theory about taking Minnesota sound. They

751
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: did defensively what they were supposed to do. It's just

752
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: you got a total zero from the unknown at the

753
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: quarterback position, which we said going into there's just no

754
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: way to account for what this kid's going to do.

755
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: That's why that number fluctuated so much this week. I

756
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: mean we talked this morning. A couple of books had

757
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: at eleven, a couple of books already had at thirteen.

758
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: So it really depended on what sharp group hit, what

759
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: book and which side they're on, And it was just

760
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: no one really knew. You're really betting the unknown there.

761
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: But the thing you did know is two really good defenses.

762
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: We're going to play this game. So as bad as

763
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: Sam Donald was, he was a veteran quarterback there. He

764
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: didn't put his team. He wasn't throwing pick sixes on

765
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: fourth down like a rookie quarterback for the Yeah, so

766
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: just brutal. If you did beck Minnesota like you said

767
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: it was, the theory was right, but my god, got

768
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: a total zero at the quarterback. And Uh, to answer

769
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: the JJ McCarthy question like you did, he ain't going anywhere.

770
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: He's gonna be there. I talked about it. I think

771
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: they'll go get a veteran so someone to challenge him.

772
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: If they keep losing, get a high enough draft pick.

773
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Maybe Kse does fire another one and try to get

774
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: in a quarterback he likes. But to me, they just

775
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: go to the veteran route, someone to challenge him. See

776
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: if he takes that year two, year three Jrump. If

777
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: he doesn't, you know, they're gonna eat it. They made

778
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: a huge mistake moving on from Sam Donald and you

779
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: saw them hugging embrace after the game, like I'm sure

780
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: he whispered to him, just miss you, but like I

781
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: just he knows you fucked up. Yeah, that's the tough part.

782
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Greg Olson and Joe Davis. They did their best to

783
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: glaze Max Brosmer.

784
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Like before the kid threw a pass, they were talking

785
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: about this kid, he could be Brock Purdy. They were

786
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: making actual comparisons to Brock Purdy. The first pass, which

787
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: was a little bit out of reach of Jordan Addison,

788
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: they were blaming it all on Jordan Addison for not

789
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: catching it off his fingertips when he.

790
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: Was diving for the ball.

791
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: Like, they did their best to make everybody interested. And

792
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: then it was punt punt, punt pick. That was basically

793
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: the first four series for the Minnesota Vikings. All Right,

794
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: we have to talk about the Carolina Panthers plus ten

795
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: and a half Stafford. Two early picks, including a pick

796
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: six six lead changes the Panthers are down twenty eight,

797
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: twenty four, fourth down from their own forty three. Bryce

798
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Young kids tedtor Roa McMillan for the touchdown. Are you

799
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: kidding me? Carolina wins this game thirty on twenty eight.

800
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Bryce Young give him tons of flowers. He isn't consistent,

801
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: we know that, but he set the NFI record most

802
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: comeback wins started his career. I believe he's at eleven now,

803
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: at the youngest stage. I think I think he just

804
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: beat like Josh Allen by like thirty days. So, you know,

805
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: obviously totally different spectrum. Josh Allen's are freaking all freaks.

806
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: But that thing we talk all.

807
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: The time, the things so is Bryce Young by the way,

808
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: in some ways right.

809
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: But the thing you can't you can't scout, you can't coach,

810
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: you can't teach, is that clutchness, that ice in your veins.

811
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: No problem driving the field the end of the games,

812
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: and that fourth down touched him. That was big time.

813
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 2: That was a risky, risky play that paid off huge

814
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: and a game where we we we said we were

815
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: gonna about the money line. We threw a little on it.

816
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: Wish you were more confident in the number obviously, and

817
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: you know, we talked the Rams were due for a stinker,

818
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: more so Stafford was. But even he bounced back like

819
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: he threw those two egregious picks and it was fourteen fourteen,

820
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: like he wasn't in that bad of a spot after

821
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: really playing so poor, you know, red zone red red

822
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: zone turnovers, it pick sixes, and there was just everything

823
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: going wrong. Like this is such a good Rams team,

824
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: but it's it's incredible what this offensive Bryce Shung's done.

825
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: And they you know, looking at all the different team

826
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: schedules and how the season's gonna end, they're probably my

827
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: number two team right now. That's like, I really cannot

828
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: wait to see what happens these next five weeks. So

829
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: they basically have this bye week Chad, then they're at

830
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: New Orleans. Then it's Tampa, Seattle, Tampa. I mean, oh

831
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: my god, is that a juggernaut to finish the season.

832
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: So I love it. It's like, you know, a team

833
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: that normally believes in we joked coming into the year,

834
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: they're win total six and a half. They've hit it.

835
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: They now their seventh win, a team we never quit on.

836
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: We always loved. It's been like a long two three

837
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: years with them, But this is always the team we envisioned, right,

838
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: are really good offense with Bryce Seung pushing the ball

839
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: downfield in uh you know, can they go three and

840
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: one in those next four games? Chad? I don't think so.

841
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: This might be as good as it gets. But you know,

842
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: they have a win against a really good Green Bay team.

843
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: I went against a really good Rams team, you know,

844
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: win against Dallas like I'm looking at right now. They

845
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: just they've won some games against good teams that I

846
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't count them out. I think they could shock the

847
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: world and somehow fit you know, which would be crazy

848
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: them stealing it from Baker with them winning this division,

849
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: I think it's not out of the world yet.

850
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: Simon.

851
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: I want to go to shame on you right now

852
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: because it is connected to the Carolina Panthers. Shame on you,

853
00:41:50,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Chad Milman. Simon, Who do we love more than anyone

854
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: else in the NFL?

855
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: Barry Milman?

856
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: No, the Carolina Panthers.

857
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, who have.

858
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: We invested in more than any other team in the

859
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: NFL the.

860
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: Past several years?

861
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: Panthers?

862
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: Who did we say we loved in this spot against

863
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: a Rams team that was at peak value against a

864
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Panthers team that was coming off of a prime time

865
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: loss in which it did not look very good but

866
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: still had a chance.

867
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: To cover a Panthers.

868
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: We went to a whole breakdown of why we liked

869
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers on Tuesday.

870
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: We were both in we both loved it.

871
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: I stupidly, stupidly mentioned some defensive back issues. They were

872
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: going to be without defensive backs because of injuries and suspensions.

873
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: The guy who knocked Juwan Jennings in the night was

874
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: going to be out this game. In that instant, we

875
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: walked away from the game, did not go back to it.

876
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: It's like we looked for an excuse not to bet

877
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: on the Carolina Panthers. There's ten and a half point

878
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: home dogs when we have almost beten the Panthers. There's

879
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: ten and a half point home dogs in every single

880
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: scenario for the past seven years, no matter who the

881
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: quarterback was, and yet somehow we didn't do it when

882
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: they were primed to win outright. Shame on me, Shame

883
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: on Chad Milman.

884
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: Simon happened to.

885
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: The best of this. Chad. I'm gonna go with I was.

886
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: I said I was gonna do Brown Special teams because

887
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: they burned us bad today. But shame I keep going

888
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 2: back to the wall, But shame too, these NFL referees

889
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: On Thanksgiving. I'm trying to watch these games with family members,

890
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: and all people can talk about are how horrible is

891
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 2: refs are, how rigid is for gambling? All this bs

892
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: and I just can't take it. They have to let

893
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: either call down the New York thing or let these

894
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: coaches have one challenge, any call, whatever it may be.

895
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: People were losing their minds. I mean you probably what

896
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. This is Troy Lions Green Bay game,

897
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: letting that coach call the time out what was clearly

898
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: a false start. Do you have a camerangles there's just

899
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: nothing left up to imagination. You have every angle, every sound.

900
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: It's all people talking to the rest of the Thanksgiving

901
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: around on the other way, where it's like, damn it,

902
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: these are great games. All these games are so good,

903
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: and now I have to defend the Shield, which I

904
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: will do. I am a mouthpiece for the Shield. I

905
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: love the NFL no matter what, but my god, they

906
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: make it hard. In those type of scenarios where you

907
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: just have multiple games with bad referee calls are dictating

908
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: these games. I mean that Dallas game that was a

909
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: bad game as well, Like people were really complaining about it.

910
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: But it's hard to complay too much because it feels

911
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: like the Chiefs have gotten every call for the last

912
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: five years. So it just instead of everyone talking about

913
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: the games, it became a thing about the refs, and

914
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: it's just I can't take it any more. NFL on you

915
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: from l a coaches challenge. These calls just won a game.

916
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: It's just some of these calls just turn the whole game.

917
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: They can't leave up the rest addicted these games. It's

918
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: just too much money, too much speculation now by the

919
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: general public. They got to earn the trust back of everyone.

920
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: Who is your hero of the week? Man?

921
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we are our own heroes

922
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: because we didn't put any of the Thanksgiving games or

923
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: that Black Friday game into it. I almost try to

924
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: talk to you out of the Browns. Unfortunately, I loved it,

925
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: but we are ice cold on our Tuesday's Picks Chads Choice,

926
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Simon says, I'm dying here with Simon says, that's why

927
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: I didn't even text Chad people honestly about Sunday or

928
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: I should say Friday's game, because I was like this,

929
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: this bet has taking on so much water right now,

930
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: I can't even we had a good number of six

931
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: and a half in the contest. I don't want to

932
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: make you try to put it in. I just ice

933
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: gold with my pick, so apologies, people, we are our

934
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: own heroes of woiding these picks. But for myself, I'm

935
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: killing myself with you, Simon says, and I'm betting these

936
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: it's good numbers. But yeah, luckily, contest, we should be

937
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 2: sitting here two and three. You saved us with the Jets,

938
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: probably could be one and four, got the Giants left

939
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: to get us back to three and two and keep

940
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: us one step closer. If we hit it, we'll be

941
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: up to fifty nine percent for the season.

942
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: I love how you both shamed yourself and made yourself

943
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: the hero at the same time for being ice cold

944
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: in the picks, but being smart enough not to put.

945
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: The we're heroes from We're self aware enough. We don't

946
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: have the egos Chad, we're heroes.

947
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: We are self aware. My hero of the week Tyrod Taylor. Look,

948
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: he was the reason we bet the game. He did

949
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: exactly what we were hoping he would do. He had

950
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: that team moving down the field. He ran for the

951
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: game time touchdown on a broken play where it looked

952
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: like they had nothing going and it was going to

953
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: end twenty four to seventeen. He scrambled for the yardage

954
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: to put them in rain for the game winning field goal.

955
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: He had a passing touchdown, He had a rushing touchdown.

956
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, you are the reason we are two and

957
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: two right now. You are the reason I won my

958
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: Jets bet at plus two and a half plus three

959
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: and on the money line, I thank you.

960
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: Tyrod Taylor, you are a hero.

961
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: He is quietly becoming the Teddy Bridgewater of covering. He

962
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: is seven and one is his last eight starts against the screen,

963
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: just undervaled every time by the public, and finds a

964
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: way like we said, I never in my wild streams slow.

965
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: He'd be throwing fifty yard bombs in that game in

966
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 2: the rain keeping us that cover.

967
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: Simon says, like you said, was Philadelphia minus six and

968
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: a half. Chetch choice was Cleveland plus five and a half.

969
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: Ugh brass Balls New York Jets plus two and a half.

970
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Bully for US Rock on a hard place was New

971
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: York Giants plus seven and a half. We forgot to

972
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: do sharp versus Square this week in the rush to

973
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: do a lot of other stuff in today's show. I'm

974
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of glad because I'm getting my ass kicked in

975
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: that the favorite parlay Seattle minus five and a half

976
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: at won, La Chargers one, Miami at won, Tampa Bay one,

977
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams underdog parlay, Pittsburgh lost, Cleveland lost, Jets one,

978
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: Houston one, Tennessee lost.

979
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: Simon, what are.

980
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: Some early leans if you've had a chance to look,

981
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: If you haven't, I have two that I noticed right away.

982
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: I mean, are we supposed to go back and take

983
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: the Jets again at plus yes? Yeah, I mean that's insane.

984
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: I immediately put that down.

985
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: We might have like a Northeast Northeastern crazy snowstorm up

986
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: here in the Northeast when this game is happening, So

987
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: we're getting two outdoors potentially in the weather. Let's grab

988
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: that early plus three in case that is true and

989
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: this number moves a ton. There's like again, there's a

990
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: couple of games I do like, but I'm just interesting

991
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: where the line's gonna go in them, because it feels

992
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 2: like I'm getting a bad number, but I'm probably gonna

993
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: be on the Chiefs. They're at home in prime time

994
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: right now. They're at minus four, minus four and a

995
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: half against Houston. I know people are gonna be like, well,

996
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: you just tried to fit. You gave us the exact

997
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: same spot last name. We're trying to fit Houston on

998
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: the road. I am like Chad just keeps saying their

999
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: offense is dysfunctional. They can't keep getting away with it.

1000
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: I think this is a nice spot to back this

1001
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs team that I think the public is fining leave

1002
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: them for dead like they've been going. They've been backing

1003
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: them every week and they've been losing them for every week.

1004
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: So that's the number I'm gonna be on. I'm not

1005
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna jump and make people take it right now, but

1006
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna grab them minus four just in case it

1007
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: does move. And another game that I like, but I

1008
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: could see it moving. Colts. They're minus one and a half.

1009
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: I'm worried it might flip because I just don't know

1010
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: if if Jones got more banged up, they and they're

1011
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: gonna sit them out, this could move. I'm gonna roll

1012
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: the dice on the early risk and just take it

1013
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: now in case he is all kid to go. I

1014
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 2: could I could see this game up to the minus

1015
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: two and a half on the Colts as a favorite

1016
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: on the road.

1017
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: Jets was the very first game I noticed. And by

1018
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: the way, as we're talking, that line has moved to

1019
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: two and a half almost everywhere. There is one three

1020
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: that I can see that is still out there, but

1021
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: that's juice to minus one eighteen right now.

1022
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: Interesting to me.

1023
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: Also, the Cowboys had been three and a half point

1024
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: underdogs on the road at Detroit for Thursday night when

1025
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: we started the show. That number is now down to

1026
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: Detroit minus three. The other game that stood out to

1027
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: me expectations are that Jaden Daniels is going to play

1028
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: next week. Washington is on the road at Minnesota and

1029
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: they are one and a half point underdogs right now.

1030
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: I bet it, but I feel back because I'm super biasing.

1031
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: I already talked about I'm heavy in the Commanders tonight.

1032
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: You know, I put them another contest them in. It

1033
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: was one of my five favorite bets, and these last

1034
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: two games, I'm really big on them tonight, Commanders and

1035
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: the Giants, And I think I talked about doctor Nick

1036
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: gave out. They're both huge luck discrepancy, so it should

1037
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: be a type of game where the bounces should go

1038
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: their way. And I think the Commanders tonight up at

1039
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: six and a half. I like your early read. I'll

1040
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: grab that plus one and a half. Now, it doesn't

1041
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: matter who the quarterback is for Minnesota, right, we're really

1042
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: banking on even if you know it's Mariota. Once again,

1043
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: if they cover tonight, that that number one flip, they'll

1044
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: be a favorite Mario to plays well tonight. So I

1045
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: like that early read by you, all right.

1046
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,760
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00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: Say whatever you want. Feedback is it gets until next time.

1084
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: I love you.

1085
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: This isn't golling. You're not at a own.

1086
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: This is NFL, which stands for not prolonged.

1087
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: When you make them goals, I'll be telling