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Doctor George Pratt 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: is a clinical psychologist. He's a bestselling author with a 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: private practice in Lahoya, California for more than thirty years. 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: I specializes in helping people resolve emotional blocks and a 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: chief success. He specializes in mind body techniques, hypnosis, psychotherapy, 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: and performance enhancement. He has served as the Chairman of 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: the Psychology at Script's Memorial Hospital in Lahoya on the staff. 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: He's also a Fellow of the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis, 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Vice President of Making the World a Better Place Foundation. 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: My pleasure to bring it back. Why is it taking 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: you so long to get back on the show? George 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: Church is always good to talk to. I think we've 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: both been busy. I think so too. Well. It's good 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: to have you back in. Happy holidays to you and everything. 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: This alarming report about suicides going up so high that 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: is bringing our average life expectancy rate down. What's going on? 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: It seems scary. We had, on average since in twenty sixteen, 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: three example, forty five thousand suicides and in the age 34 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: group of fifteen to thirty four, suicide is the second 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: leading cause of death, and that's really unfortunate. We've got. 36 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: One of the major factors is a dramatic rise in 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: opioid addiction. There's lots of opioid overdoses that are going 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: on and there's a strong relationship with when we have 39 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: economic downturns, there are more deaths to suicide. So if 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: you're having financial problems, you want to be talking to 41 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: somebody to help you manage the circumstances. But between these 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: kinds of statistics and the economy and opioid addiction, it's very, 43 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: very dangerous. And one of the problems with the opioids 44 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: is there twice as likely to attempt suicide as people 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: who do don't use them. So that's one of the 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: reasons that our life expectancy is going down. It's going down. 47 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: It is going down, and we don't want that. I 48 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: mean the healthy people. It's probably still going up with 49 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: people who take care of themselves, but the average is 50 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: coming down because of the high suicide rate, right, and 51 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: the people that commit suicide, even though many of them, 52 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the majority, are not in any kind of therapy, ninety 53 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: upon more rigorous investigation, ninety percent will have evidence of 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: a mental health condition and they're not getting help for it. 55 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: So that is between not getting mental health help and 56 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: then being more vulnerable to opioids. They're in a very 57 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: day dangerous situation. And if you can imagine people in 58 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: that age range and then having children and then they're 59 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: left without a mother or father. It's a it's a 60 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: very sad situation. So we want to we want to 61 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: do something about it. We want to make to the 62 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: statistics better and have us living longer and happier so 63 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: that we have quality of life. And that's what that's 64 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: what I'm interested in, and I know you are too. Yeah, 65 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: And so the problems associated with a suicide most frequently, 66 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, they start off with strained relationships, life stressors 67 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: of some sort, finances, substance abuse problems as number four, 68 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: and then physical health conditions. So suicide is an issue 69 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: mental health professionals are saying, not only for them mentally ill, 70 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: but for anyone struggling with serious lifestyle issues. What do 71 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: you think of assisted suicide? You know, I know that 72 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: that's been bandied around for a long time, and in 73 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: certain situations, I'm you know, I could consider that as 74 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: an option for someone not in California, but in other 75 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: states when there are no other hopes and they're in 76 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: a certain condition that they can't recover, and it's so painful, 77 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: so painful, and it's so painful. But many times people 78 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: that are interested in that also have a mental health issue, 79 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: and you want to deal with the mental health issues, 80 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: so you get a clear perspective on what is it 81 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: that's going to help this person the most. And you 82 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: know other states have been exploring it and it's available, 83 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: but it's complex because of so many different factors, but 84 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: particularly for screening for mental health issues, and then also 85 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: the influence of certain medications people are taking. They can 86 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: cloud their mind and affect their ability to think clearly. 87 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Doctor George Pratt with us. His websites are linked up 88 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: at Coast to coastam dot com. Doctor when we take 89 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: calls with you next hour in addition to phone calls, 90 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: is it appropriate to ask people who may have contemplated 91 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: or attempted suicide to call? Is that something that we 92 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: might be able to deal with? Okay, I'd say whatever. 93 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: Whatever people are needing. We want to make the world 94 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: a better place because of the young people's suicide rate 95 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: and that seems to be going up as well. Yes, 96 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: can we blame social network for that? You know, that 97 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: is a real factor because there's a correlation between people 98 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: that are on the computer and for an extended period 99 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: of time watching other people do things. Yes, and they 100 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: get bullied in some cases too. Yes, they do. And 101 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: if you could imagine if you spend more than two 102 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: hours a day, and I think that's a very liberal 103 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: amount of time. If you spend two hours a day, 104 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: your risk for depression goes up significantly. It just it 105 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: you are not being active, you are not pursuing your life. 106 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: You're watching someone else, and then you're feeling inferior because 107 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: you're not doing anything. You're on social media. I know what. 108 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: I pay a bill online, I get depressed. I think 109 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: that's I think that's pretty normal. Charges you imagine doing 110 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: that for two hours, that wouldn't be very good. I'd 111 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: rather have people do healthy things out in nature, get 112 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: some exercise, be in what are called fractals, which are 113 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: queues out in the environment that are irregular patterns that 114 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: are very good for the brain, such as looking at 115 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: leaves and trees and flowers. That those fractal patterns have 116 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: a subconscious effect and they significantly elevate our mood. So 117 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: fractals are your friends. Not so much social media for 118 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: an extended period time. Give us an example. Of course, 119 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: you can't give us any names, obviously don't want them either, 120 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: But of a patient or someone who came to you 121 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and try to commit suicide, and how do you take 122 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: them through a process to get them out of that mood. Well, 123 00:08:54,600 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: I've had people that are considering suicide and what really happens, 124 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: it's an undiagnosed depression. Now, some of the things that 125 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: we do and is to help people rather immediately go 126 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: in and look at what the triggers are for the depression. 127 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: Many times people will have failed on antidepressants. Well, the 128 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: third book that we did, which was Instant Emotional Healing, 129 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: helped identify how individuals can do various procedures and let's 130 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: say tapping on issues that have been bothering them to 131 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: clear them. It's a delinking of the emotional arousal with 132 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: the circumstance. So the people that I have seen, when 133 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: people have been depressed for period time, they've kind of 134 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: given up. But if you can go in there and 135 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: then identify what the triggers are, then you can treat 136 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: them properly. So identifying that it can be really wonderful 137 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: and and it may take a little time, but there 138 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: are techniques that even using some subconscious techniques such as 139 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: a method where you're using the body's energy system to 140 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: identify when something happened in your life or what the 141 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: trigger was. They might not they might not consciously recognize 142 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: that when they were eight they were traumatized and they 143 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: remember at that point their father walked out on the 144 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: family at age eight, and then they say, well, it's 145 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: really no big deal. I've gotten over it. Well, what 146 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: has happened is they haven't gotten over it, and then 147 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: they've built other problems on top of that. So you 148 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: have to go back to that earlier trauma to clear it. 149 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: And then when you are clearing those then people become 150 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: very positive because they know there's something that can be 151 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: done and the and it doesn't have to take a 152 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: prolonged period. Then they feel empowered and worthy to proceed. 153 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: So that's the exciting thing is we have tools. These 154 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: are called energy techniques. So I personally do do obviously 155 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: cognitive behavioral, which is the traditional you try to change 156 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: people's thoughts by you know, in some conscious ways and 157 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: so to a shift thinking patterns. But we also do 158 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: emdr I movement desensitization and reprocessing, which is a rapid 159 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: way to clear trauma. And when you can identify it, 160 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: then you can clear it. Let's say a person. I 161 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: saw a person a weeks ago that came in that 162 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: had been in a airplane crash and he was not 163 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: the pilot. It was another circumstance and the doors collapsed. 164 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: They had to phone the runway. It was very scary 165 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: that he thought he was going to be dead, and 166 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: he had been in a very agitated and a stay 167 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: where he was not thinking clearly. And his wife came 168 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: in with him and and said I had done something 169 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: with her in the past, and she said, you know, 170 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: let George try some of these procedures. And when we 171 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: had him, think of the of the crash and then 172 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: do let's say, tapping on certain parts of the body 173 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: with feedback loops to the brain. That cleared in about 174 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: forty five minutes, and there were some other things to identify, 175 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: but the majority was cleared in a very short period 176 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: of time. Then that gives people hope. What happens when 177 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: people are depressed for so long they have given up hope, 178 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: But at least if they're willing to come in to 179 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: see a professional or to a church pastor or something 180 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: like that, getting some guidance and encouragement that they can 181 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: be helped. There are lots of tools available. There is 182 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: also clinical hypnosis is a wonderful technique too. And then 183 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: as I said, the tapping and cognitive behavioral and then 184 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: the EMDR is wonderful. Listen to more Coast to Coast 185 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to 186 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Coast to coast am dot com for more