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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and Matt. It's a Thursday here in Pittsburgh and that

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Speaker 1: means the Steelers are two days into their practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we three starts tonight. We got all kinds of stuff happening,

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Speaker 1: all happening. It's all happening. I feel like Jimmy Fallon

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Speaker 1: and the almost famous it's all um. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's first an f C North game for the Steelers

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Speaker 1: this year. Uh, they're getting healthy. Yeah, it sounds that way.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not sure what we can report of

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Speaker 1: what's been out yet today and whatnot. But t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt was a full participant to um. Ben Roethlisberger practiced,

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Speaker 1: the Parkers a part so participanto. Hayden back out there today,

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Speaker 1: and um you mentioned Bushes was a full participant yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, if you can get four of those

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Speaker 1: guys back, those will probably be the four that you'd pick, right.

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Speaker 1: I thought it's a really good point yesterday about again,

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Speaker 1: not a knock on Deonte Johnson at all, but you

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Speaker 1: can live without him and it might not do him.

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Speaker 1: It might not be the worst thing in the world

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Speaker 1: to play offense. A little bit differently, I really like

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Speaker 1: Alex high Smith, as was everyone listening, I'm sure, but

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Speaker 1: so bad that's not so shabby of an edge password.

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Speaker 1: And if you just have to sprinkle some Jamir Jones

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Speaker 1: and yeah, you just don't want you know, what happened

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Speaker 1: Sunday was you know, Jamir Jones on Sunday played fifteen

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Speaker 1: snaps against the Raiders. T J. Watt played sixteen snaps

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Speaker 1: against the Raiders. That's what you don't want, no, right, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the fifteen for Jamir is fine. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it sprinkled in and they'll be active. But if yeah,

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Speaker 1: you want him on the field, if if it's you know,

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Speaker 1: if it's him out there with water, if it's him

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Speaker 1: out there with with Ingram Okay, okay, I mean, especially

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Speaker 1: if it's not a crucial down in the distant situation

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Speaker 1: or you know, just rest here and there or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm interested to see more of him, but

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Speaker 1: you don't want that exclusively. You don't want that exclusively.

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Speaker 1: So great news, of course, with what um I mean

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Speaker 1: He's been awesome when he's been out there this year.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's not breaking news. That's not a

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Speaker 1: surprise to anybody. Uh, there's none of this. Oh is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be ready after his holdout which isn't even

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Speaker 1: a holdout? And you know, so he's fine, He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: He was great against the Bills, he was great against

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. I expect he'll be great against Riley Reef

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals on Sunday as well. I imagine he

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Speaker 1: will be very raring to go there. Uh. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the way that it might force the Steelers to play

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Speaker 1: offense if Deante Johnson doesn't play. Yeah, obviously you still

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Speaker 1: have Chase Claypool ot there. You still have Juju Smith shoes.

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Speaker 1: So he had James Washington near the sprinkle in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right right. Maybe don't play as many three wide receiver

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Speaker 1: sets and that makes some sense. Um, A couple of

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Speaker 1: nuggets here is Jujus lad the receivers and snaps both

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Speaker 1: both of the first two weeks. But I think if

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Speaker 1: Deonte doesn't play, which seems like the case, then clay

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Speaker 1: Pool snaps go up dramatically. I'm not sure he leaves

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Speaker 1: the field unless he's gassed, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: And you can replace him with Washington and too series

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Speaker 1: they're similar style players, and I do think Washington would

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Speaker 1: play his snaps absolutely go up because you're still gonna

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Speaker 1: play eleven person Noel, But you mentioned this yesterday. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you see five to ten snaps a what. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: see more double tight end sets, maybe an extra offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman even pieces his head in. Who's to say? I mean,

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Speaker 1: but dear, I think it's safe to say you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be bigger on offense, you know, on average in this

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Speaker 1: game than the first too. Not to mention Deonte is

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Speaker 1: your smallest play, especially against a team like the Bengals

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Speaker 1: who don't sub a lot. No, they don't. Um, you

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. Um. Their defense has

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Speaker 1: been pretty stout, but it's not star studded. Um Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the Steelers can get to the point

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Speaker 1: It just seems like it's been a year and a

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Speaker 1: half they've they've been getting pushed around. Here's you know,

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Speaker 1: I did some studies today, Matt, and right now, Nase

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Speaker 1: Harris is averaging. He's played a hundred and eleven snaps.

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Speaker 1: The only running back who's played more snaps in him

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Speaker 1: surprising to find that. Because Tony Pollard has gotten a

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Speaker 1: They have been, and they must have ran a lot

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Speaker 1: he's played four more snaps than Derrick Henry. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: Steelers backfield has the fewest touches through two games of

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Speaker 1: any of the thirty two teams. Okay, so right now,

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Speaker 1: Henry leads the NFL NFL running backs and touches with

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Speaker 1: sixty one. They just feed him and feed him, and he's,

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Speaker 1: like I said, he's been on the field, und I say,

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Speaker 1: hundred seven snaps and he's touched the ball in sixty

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Speaker 1: probably getting the balls, getting the ball a lot, and

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Speaker 1: they're actually throwing to him a little bit. McCaffrey who's

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Speaker 1: tied with Naja Harris and snaps at he's gotten fifty

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Speaker 1: nine touches. These guys are touching the ball fifty of

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Speaker 1: the time their stabs. Naja Harris is seventeenth among running

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Speaker 1: backs with thirty two touches, So he's on the field

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Speaker 1: all the time, but you're not giving him the football, right,

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Speaker 1: not to the degree that some of these other guys.

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Speaker 1: The other guy if you look at this, Derrick Henry's

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, Yeah, he's he's got fifty four touches. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin cook Is is four and those two actually played

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Speaker 1: in overtime games. That helps a little, but was getting

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Speaker 1: the ball time before that. Damien Harris is fifth. So

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Speaker 1: you got Henry and Harris both played with Naja Harris, right, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mark Ingram, another Alabama running back, is sixed on that

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Speaker 1: list in touches, he's got forty one, uh. Montgomery, Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 1: week one starter when they broke camp, right. Alvin Kamara,

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Speaker 1: who you don't think of as a high volume guy's

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Speaker 1: got thirty four touches. He's got more touches. Mike Davis,

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Speaker 1: Carson's yeah he's missed some times. Wow. A lot of

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Speaker 1: they're mixing him in. It wasn't mixing anybody else and

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Speaker 1: not giving Naj Harris the ball. And I told you

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Speaker 1: ran through all of his first down runs. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: averaged four point nine yards a carry on his twelve

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Speaker 1: four negative runs. So if I'm like, the big runs

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Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I don't mind that either. And

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Speaker 1: we had a good conversation before we hit record. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we should have hit record earlier because it was really good.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the one thing I said that that

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Speaker 1: holding penalty, you know, things of that nature have happened

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Speaker 1: an he's such a good receiver to or they're scratching

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Speaker 1: the surface of what he can become there. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: even have to run elaborate routes. I think it's worked

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott right now, Like that first game against Tampa,

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Speaker 1: it well. But if I was terrible, you're paying him

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Speaker 1: to get Harrison ball more. I mean, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: back to the shouldn't use first round picks on running

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Speaker 1: not like he hasn't passed test and you don't like

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Speaker 1: football team do you trust to get positive yardage more

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Speaker 1: than Harris Nobody? You know. It might not be great

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Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna have many negative runs when it's

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Speaker 1: all said and done. Too. He does a great job

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Speaker 1: think that should be a priority this week is get

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Speaker 1: as you said yes yesterday, maybe Deonte being out of

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Speaker 1: the picture enables that a little bit more, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got Juju and Claypool doing the blocking

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Speaker 1: instead of Claypool and Deonte. You know, it sounds a

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Speaker 1: lot better, you know, or Ebron and friar Muth and

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Speaker 1: you know. So it'll be interesting that it doesn't break

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Speaker 1: my heart that Johnson is not playing UM but him

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't play UM, but that sounds bad because

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Speaker 1: change the course of the offense a little bit. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the full injury report. This is how they're officially listed.

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Speaker 1: not replacing him with with Chop Liver's out there, some

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Speaker 1: when you know, if Tevin Jones is out there, right, Washington,

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Speaker 1: So again, good stuff. I mean I guess it's been

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Speaker 1: Sometimes two with a young team. You know, you hate

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Speaker 1: get the feeling. Maybe they were feeling a little bit

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Speaker 1: Did you realize how young this team is? It's really young.

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Speaker 1: They sliced this many average years per player, um. They

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Speaker 1: if you take Ben, if you take every starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: They have gotten drastically younger. Yeah, drastically younger. But well

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Speaker 1: teamways and now it's the Steelers. We'll see them on

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Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock at Hinesfield. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening

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