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Speaker 1: We try to do these every week because I got

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Speaker 1: so many questions. Mail Bag. I'm a Jets fan. I've

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at a team like the Jets,

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Speaker 1: saying that it doesn't matter. It'd be like you know,

426
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Speaker 1: I just think it's a lot of noise that ultimately

427
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: doesn't determine your success or failure. And all those guys

428
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: use an example like Geno's way better off. Maybe Geno

429
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: wasn't quite ready, and some of it happens like you're

430
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: not quite ready. You get thrown in the fire and

431
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 1: you mature, or you become a better player. You have

432
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: to become a backup, so you kind of learn mentally

433
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: how to approach the game differently, Like everyone has a

434
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: different trajectory in life, no matter what you do for

435
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: a living. Some people are ready to hit the ground running.

436
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: Some people are just child prodigies who dominate their whole life.

437
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: Other guys, like you know, battle in the mud for

438
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: years and don't figure it out till like their fifties.

439
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: In a certain industry. I just think, if you're a

440
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: quarterback that does actually have the talent, slash maturity and intelligence,

441
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: you just hope that you can land in a spot

442
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: where you get that spot. I do believe for the

443
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: most part, obviously there are gonna be examples of guys

444
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: that probably got screwed throughout the history of time in

445
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: any walk of life. I do think usually the cream

446
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: rise at the top. Lifelong Dolphins fan, I know how

447
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: you feel about Tua. I feel about the same, maybe

448
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: slightly higher on him. But my question is more what

449
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: happens if this season continues to be a disaster. Is

450
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: McDaniel's job in jeopardy? Well, you just got a contract extension.

451
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: I think you get a mulligan usually as a coach,

452
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: and the to a situation through their whole team for loop.

453
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: Now he comes back. You know I'm recording this before

454
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: the Arizona game that I would say that'd probably be

455
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: a bad loss, right if you're a Dolphins fan, your

456
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: favorite in the game, you got Tyreek Hilsey saying he's

457
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: in tears because he's so happy he's back. And I

458
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: don't blame him. I mean Tyreek Hill and Wattle playing

459
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 1: with those other two cats, it's completely useless. But I

460
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: do not think his job's in jeopardy now. But I

461
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: do think, what when you say disaster. If TWA plays

462
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Speaker 1: the rest of the season, even if they have a

463
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: bad season, they're more likely to draft like eight nine,

464
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: ten than two three four, So you're not gonna be

465
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: in position. It's not a great quarterback draft. Two is

466
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: going to be your quarterback next year. You've got to

467
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: figure out how to improve the team. The offensive line

468
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: has been a major question mark since two has been there.

469
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: They've invested in guys who have been hurt. They've obviously

470
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: lost some defensive players this year in the last couple

471
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: of years because of cap situations. So your team is

472
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: just not as good. And two has proven if you

473
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: give them a good enough team, you can be a

474
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: wild card team, and that is a really good accomplishment

475
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: at a franchise like Miami. But right now, how is

476
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: their team? Like, Look what the Rams had to do

477
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: to turn over the roster, trade a bunch of guys.

478
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: One guy was traded obviously to the Dolphins and Jalen Ramsey.

479
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: Then they hit on a million picks, so a huge

480
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: part of their success. Now, Stafford's way better than Tua.

481
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: But like when you watch the Rams, you go think

482
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: how many guys that impact their team that they've drafted

483
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. I mean, Pooka and

484
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Aku is immediately one of the best players in the

485
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: league at his position. Jared Verse looks awesome. Young number

486
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: zero is a guy they drafted last year. I think

487
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: in like the fourth or fifth round, and they got

488
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: countless other guys that. Honestly, sometimes when I'm watching them play,

489
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: aff to Google because I don't even know who they are.

490
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: So you need to hit. If you're gonna do kind

491
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: of a reboot and improve your team, you got to

492
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: hit on a bunch of picks. I'm not just talking

493
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Speaker 1: about the first rounder. I'm talking about like third, fourth,

494
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: and fifth guys that are starters. Hey, John, this is

495
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Speaker 1: an anonymous account question for the mailback. I heard you

496
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: mentioned on the show the other day that you were

497
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: in a fraternity at cal Poly. I myself was in

498
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: one as well. I was in AGR. It's the aag

499
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: for it. They drink a lot of booze, used to

500
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: party there a lot. I was curious which one you

501
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: were in. Also enjoy hearing about your experiences at Fresno question.

502
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I was in Sigma Alpha Epsilon. I did it when

503
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I was obviously a freshman, and then as the years

504
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: went on, I got more and more detached. As just

505
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't I think that fraternity has been kicked off campus.

506
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: We had some issues been kicked off several campuses actually

507
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: throughout California State schools UC Davis kicked off. I think

508
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: San Diego State kicked off, definitely kicked off cal Pauly. So,

509
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: but I had a lot of buddies in AGR and

510
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: my brother was in that at Fresno State. He's a

511
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: farmer and he's buddies with a bunch of those guys. Well,

512
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I was found funny when I was at cal Pauly

513
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: all the ad guys who usually you know worked in

514
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: family business for farming, they hated breaks like Christmas Thanksgiving

515
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: because they go home and work liking they were in college,

516
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: not to go to school. They were in college to

517
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: party and kick it and get away for their dads

518
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: and grandpas. I'll love question for the back mark. Davis

519
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: seems adamant. They're not trading Max Crosby. With Deshaun Watson

520
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: tearing his acl and them already being one and six,

521
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: they need to move Miles Garrett. The Lions owe the fans.

522
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: Their team is young and they don't really need early

523
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: picks for the next couple of years. Why not trade

524
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: Miles And if they can't make the numbers work, trade

525
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: them again. He has another year and countless teams would

526
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: want to give the Lions a first round pick right

527
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: back for him, So why not rent them and get

528
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl finally? While the league is weak and

529
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: injuries are everywhere, and can you imagine Aiden Hutchson, Miles

530
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Garrett and the rest of the guys on that d line.

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Speaker 1: Holy shit, that's insane. Totally agree if I were the Lions.

532
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't think we talk about that enough now. The

533
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: risk is right. So if I if I pay you know,

534
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money for something and my intention then

535
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: is to flip that, even if I'm not planning on

536
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: flipping it for more money just to break even and

537
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: benefit from using that, there is risk involved. What if

538
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: something goes bad? So if you trade for him and

539
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: then he gets hurt, obviously you are stuck with that

540
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: player and you've lost the draft capital. So in a

541
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: perfect world, I hear you, you can trade for one

542
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: of those two guys. Let's just say give two ones

543
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: and then in the offseason you could trade them again.

544
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: Even if you don't get two ones back. Well, if

545
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: you won the Super Bowl and you can flip them

546
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: for another one because you need the cap space or whatever.

547
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: But if you were to get injured, then you'd be

548
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: stuck with that player who both those guys make a

549
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: lot of money. Obviously, I would with all my chips

550
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table and not necessarily and

551
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: live more in the moment than the long term. This

552
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: has been a franchise that has been so bad for

553
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: so long, and now they are so good. Honestly, you

554
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: could justify even if Aiden Hudson had not gotten injured,

555
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: to also make that trade. Which can you imagine if

556
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: Aiden Hudson had not been injured. It's like the Lions

557
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 1: with Aiden Hudson have just traded for Max Crosby. I

558
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: do think they will be very, very inclined to be

559
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: aggressive and swing for the fences, so I totally agree. Now,

560
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: it takes two to tango, right. You can't go on

561
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: a date if she says no. So you can want

562
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: these players. But if both the teams say no, regardless

563
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: what you're offering, even if you're offering like they're offering

564
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: two first round picks and you're headed toward the dram

565
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: and you won't do the trade. So they got to

566
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: say yes. Huge Bears fan. In my opinion, eber flu

567
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: situation is fascinating. Since taking control of the play calling

568
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: early last season, the Bears defense has played undeniably well. However,

569
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: Iberflus is widely considered the fourth best coach in his

570
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: own division, and many people doubt his ability to get

571
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: the offense right. Clearly the team has improved under him,

572
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: but I'm afraid there is a ceiling. How do you

573
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: think Chicago, how do you see Chicago handling the situation.

574
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: It's a tough one. I think it's all gonna be

575
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: predicated on how this season goes. And I think sometimes

576
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: I probably sound negative on them because I push back

577
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: on Colin a couple weeks ago when it came to

578
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: the Bears. You do not have to apologize for beating

579
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: the living piss out of bad teams because, as any

580
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Bears fans would know, you couldn't do that in the

581
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: years past. So that by itself is a huge step

582
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: to be a good team and to win double digit games. Obviously,

583
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: you gotta beat your divisional opponents and the good teams

584
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: you play, but you gotta beat the bad teams. To

585
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: be a great quarterback, it's not just about throwing sweet

586
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: go routes like Matt Stafford made incredible play. I mean

587
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: the touchdown he threw the cup on Thursday Night where

588
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: he like avoids a pass rusher, ducks under another guy,

589
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: hits cup in the back of the end zone. There's

590
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: only so many guys that can do that. But you

591
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: know what Matt Stafford can do with his eyes closed,

592
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: hit a wheel route, hit the checkdown. It's no different

593
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: as a team. To be a great player, you got

594
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: to do the basic things well to be a great team.

595
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: Like the Patriots for twenty years, they weren't losing many

596
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: games to the team's drafts in the top ten, and

597
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: then they were winning a lot of games against the

598
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: best teams. So every year you look up twelve thirteen wins,

599
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: well half of those wins are probably coming from team

600
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: less than six wins, and so the Bears are already

601
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: off to a good start. It's gonna be judged though

602
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: they haven't played a division game. He goes three and

603
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: three in the division, all of a sudden, they win

604
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: ten or eleven games and they're a wildcard. I think

605
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: it gets an extension because the whole point of this

606
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: sport is to win, and if he's winning and beating

607
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: the Lions, Vikings, and Packers, I don't know how you

608
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: deny it. Where I do think it gets weird. Let's

609
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: say he goes two and four in the division, they

610
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: win nine games, they're the seven seed, and they get

611
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: bounced in the first round. What do you do? I

612
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: personally would try to upgrade, but they're human elements. What's

613
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: his relationship with Poles? What's his relationship with Kevin Warren,

614
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: which is essentially like the pseudo owner because he has

615
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: so much control. It's a tough spot. I think it's

616
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: easy if you miss the playoffs, we need upgrade the coach.

617
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: I think it's easy if he wins eleven games, like

618
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: he's getting an extension. That's a fact where I think

619
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: it gets tough. You go nine to eight, you lose

620
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot of games against the good teams. What the

621
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: hell do you do? I dabble in a bit of

622
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: the betting space before the season. I put in a

623
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: couple of big ones for division winners. Obvious ones to

624
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: me were the Niners, the Eagles, the Lions, the Texans,

625
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: the Bills, and the Chiefs. I was a little worried

626
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: about the North, but ultimately picked the Ravens and the

627
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: NFC South similar deal, but decided I couldn't bet on

628
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: the Falcons. That had cousins off an Achilles and Dennis

629
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: Allen makes it an auto not take for any Saints. Bet.

630
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: I never thought my biggest worry would be the Niners,

631
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: as I'm a huge fan and we've owned everyone the

632
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: past few years. I guess my question is are we

633
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: cooked well Sunday Night? To not be cooked is must win.

634
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: You win Sunday Night against the Dallas Cowboys, you're four

635
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: and four, and it shows you how high the standards are. Currently,

636
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, as of Friday morning, October twenty fifth,

637
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: are in last place in the division. Now part of

638
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: that is the Rams just played, so they've played an

639
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: extra game they win, and or I guess they hadn't

640
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: played an extra game because they had to buy. But

641
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: they have three wins. The Cardinals have three wins. Both

642
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: those teams have beat the Niners, and obviously Seattle has

643
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: four wins. So you beat the Cowboys, you're four and four.

644
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: Then you've got to go to Tampa, which is not

645
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: an easy road trip. But they're missing their entire offense,

646
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: so I would say that's must win as well. So

647
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you beat the Cowboys. I think

648
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. They will beat the Cowboys, would

649
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: be favored against the Bucks. Take a deep breath. You

650
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: could be five and four. Then you get Seattle at home,

651
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: who the forty nine ers have owned Gino Smith, and

652
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: part of that is Nick Bosa against them looks like

653
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor. He destroys their offensive line, and the forty

654
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: nine ers defensive line plays x. The Seattle just does

655
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: not play well against the forty nine ers. So I

656
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: think all of a sudden, and I don't feel great

657
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: about this because the Niners have not proven that they

658
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: can beat anybody. I mean, they can lose to anybody. Besides,

659
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: like the Patriots, on a weekly basis, they don't score

660
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: in the red zone consistently. They turn the ball over.

661
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not acting like a three to oho stretch.

662
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: Here's a lock. But all of a sudden, beat the Cowboys,

663
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks, beat Seattle. You're six and four, and

664
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: everyone could take a deep breath. Then the schedule gets

665
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: really hard. Packers, Bills, the Bears, play the Rams again,

666
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: play the Lions. So it's I think for the forty

667
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: nine ers to win this division, they got to rattle

668
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: off the next three games, and that Tampa game would

669
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: have been really, really hard if Evans and Godwin were healthy.

670
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: Clearly they're not. I'm a longtime Raider fan and have

671
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: to endure the last twenty plus years of watching my

672
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: team every week. It's tough, man. I've had discussions with

673
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: friends and family about our quarterback situation. I understand Carr

674
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: was not Joe Montana or Tom Brady, but I argue

675
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: we at least had a chance to win every week

676
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: because we had a competent quarterback. But others argue it's

677
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: best to start over if you don't have a top

678
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: five quarterback. I remember the years of Andrew Walters and

679
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Bruce Gradkowski, and I'm afraid to go another fifteen years

680
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: of that. What do you think is a better plan

681
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: to look for a top five quarterback every year or

682
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: build around a twelve to sixteen quarterback in the league.

683
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: I think the hard part about Derek, I think you're

684
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: being too bullish. You don't need a top five quarterback.

685
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: If you have, like a top twelve quarterback Jared Goff,

686
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins forever. You just ride that out.

687
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: You just have to, because if you do a good

688
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: enough job building the team you're gonna be in the playoffs.

689
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: I think the problem for Derek is he oscillated too

690
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: often closer to twenty than he was ten, and he

691
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: wasn't quite good enough after it. You guys didn't give

692
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: him four years. I mean he was on the team

693
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: for nine, So I don't have a huge problem with it.

694
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: The main issue, which sucks for you as a fan

695
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: is you didn't have a backup plan and you had

696
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: no path to getting a guy you weren't drafting high enough. Yeah,

697
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: and now you're just stuck in this weird purgatory. So

698
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: part of it, and this is why I bet against

699
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: the Packers, like that never happens to Rogers. To Jordan Love,

700
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, they landed the number one overall

701
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: pick twice. No think how they landed far far I

702
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: got drafted by the Falcons. Then they trade a second

703
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: round pick for him. Aaron Rodgers was the end of

704
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: the first round. Same thing with Jordan Love. So part

705
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: of it is on your organization to figure it out,

706
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: like how could you just never and Derek was this

707
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: he was a second round pick. But it's like you

708
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: guys never even end up with like, ah, we got

709
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in the fourth so I feel you're paying

710
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: So my answer to that, I think it's different for

711
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: every team. But I don't think it's crazy to move

712
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: on from Derek after nine or ten years, even if

713
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: you have to downgrade because whoever is replacing him, Jimmy Garoppolo,

714
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is not as good as Derek Carr. But

715
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Derek Carr isn't good enough to just ride out for

716
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: fifteen years. He's just not and early on in his

717
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: career he was better. I do think he's kind of

718
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: gotten worse. You mentioned Palmdale on your show a while back.

719
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: I threw it on the car in surprise. My girlfriend

720
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: of seven years knew every word. It's great too. I

721
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: mean it's Palmdale afro Man great too. Truthfully? How bad

722
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: are the Raiders? Does the Tom Brady and Richard Seymour

723
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: ownership change change the way we run? I know people

724
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: use Michael Jordan as an example of a former player

725
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: owners not working out, but there are plenty of examples

726
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: working thoughts. I think the problem with it Michael is,

727
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Michael was never going

728
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: to change his retirement lifestyle, which a big part because

729
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: that's the way he played. When Michael played basketball, he

730
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: played golf all the time Michael lived right. That's why

731
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: most of us that grew up in the Michael Jordan

732
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: era revere the guy, because honestly, I have a you know,

733
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: we have a lot of similar vices, like the booze

734
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: a little like play golf, like screw around. But I

735
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: think it's hard to own, slash control everything if you're

736
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of off in your own world, where I do

737
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: think Tom's m was much more all the chips in

738
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: the middle of the table. On football, Michael was once

739
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: the game started, and he was such, I mean, an

740
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: elite great player, it didn't matter. But his career was

741
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: relatively shorter, and part of that was he went to

742
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: play baseball because he might have been kicked out of

743
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: the league for gambling. But that's a whole nother conversation.

744
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: But the reality is, if Tom gives you a lot

745
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: of If Tom's just playing golf, screwing around, yeah nothing,

746
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: getting his opinion on stuff isn't gonna be as impactful.

747
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: But if he is much more hands on, like watching practice,

748
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: like this guy's not good enough helping you out in

749
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: some scouting situations guys. I do think there's no way

750
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 1: to dispute. He could be a benefit. Now Tom owns

751
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny percent of the team, so he is

752
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: not the decision maker. I think it's more if Mark

753
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: will open his arms, bring him around, he can utilize

754
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: him just giving him advice. I was talking to someone

755
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: the other day about this situation. Mark has always relied

756
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: on the history of the Raiders. The people healings on

757
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: played for the Raiders in their heyday the seventies, in

758
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: the eighties, and his biggest coaching hire of the last

759
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: ten years was a guy that his dad hired in

760
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. I'm not a huge live in the

761
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: past guy. I like using the past to help direct

762
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: my future, but I don't love holding on to it

763
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: because I think sometimes it can kind of hurt growth.

764
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: You have to look forward, and part of looking forward

765
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: is surrounding yourself that with other people that look forward.

766
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: It was like a great Nick Saban defining characteristic. He

767
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: was always willing to adapt. This guy's philosophies as a

768
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: coach were created in the eighties in the early nineties,

769
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: but as he had to the latter half of the

770
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: last ten years, changed his offense, would just constantly be

771
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: willing to change where I think Mark has been. I

772
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: want that because that's what used to work, and those

773
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: are the people advising him. So I think just getting

774
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: a fresh perspective from someone that has no ties to

775
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: the Raiders, someone who was the you know one A

776
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: and one B with Belichick the key to the dynasty

777
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: of just knowing what works and calling games like he's

778
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: very very close to around the sport and because of

779
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 1: the game he calls the number one Fox afternoon game.

780
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: He's watching the best teams. So sometimes you can go, well,

781
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: you kind of lose touch with what goes on in

782
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: the NFL, like there's a gap that grows the longer

783
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: you're out of it, which is very true. But he

784
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: gets to stay pretty close. Every week he's calling like

785
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: you know whoever, Eagles, Niners, Packers, Lions, Like he's getting

786
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: to see these teams, so he knows what's working currently

787
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL and he has to prepare so he's

788
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: watching tape on it. So is it guaranteed to work? No,

789
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: it just can't be any worse. I'm bullish on it

790
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: working or at least helping. I wonder how you were

791
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: able to recap all the Sunday games right after the fact.

792
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean a busy Sunday is like fourteen games. You

793
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: were able to give good takes on each game just

794
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: when they end. I wonder how this is possible. Well,

795
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I got multiple TVs in my office.

796
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: So I got a six inch TV. I get another

797
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: TV that's like one of that kind of you know,

798
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: oscillates toward me that is probably I don't know, forty inches,

799
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: and then I got like a thirty inch computer screen.

800
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: So in the morning, let's just say there are seven

801
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: games going on, I throw a four box with the

802
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: most important games on the big TV. I throw the

803
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: lesser important games that might not even come up right,

804
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: like Panthers, Falcons or something on the little TV. And

805
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: then if there is a game that is really really important, right,

806
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: like a playoff level game, I might even throw that

807
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: also on the four box on the TV, and then

808
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: I take notes during the game. The other thing is

809
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: like I don't really do anything on Saturday in terms

810
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: of going out, Like I don't want to be hungover

811
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: or anything on Sunday because it's a big workday. But

812
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: like I can't break down every game like I could

813
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: if I just sat and watched it, and then we

814
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: just go into everything. So I just think I've been

815
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: watching football for a long time. I take Sundays very

816
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: seriously because there is a lot going on, and you

817
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta take some notes because you just there's

818
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: just too much going on. And sometimes I think, after

819
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: especially if I get done with Colin, I'm like, I

820
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: didn't really like what I said, So I'm probably too

821
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: critical of myself. But I think you just you just

822
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: gotta stay really focused. I mean, for from ten am

823
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 1: till I go on with Colin. I just got six

824
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: or seven games going on at one time in the office.

825
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: And even if the forty nine ers play, which are

826
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: a big deal in my house, I put it on

827
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: for Maria out in the living room, and I don't

828
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: even watch the game with her because I guess it's

829
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: like there's another important game, there's Rams Lions, or I'm

830
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: just making up games, you know what I mean. So

831
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: it just it takes. This is not a to job

832
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: in the sense of physical labor, but it does take

833
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: a dedication on Sundays, like I take this shit very

834
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: very seriously. I've been very lucky to be afforded this

835
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: life that I've worked for. But Sunday's a really, really

836
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: big day in my home. But I wouldn't be able

837
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Speaker 1: to do it. Like I don't just have one TV.

838
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean I got and sometimes on a given week,

839
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Speaker 1: if there are ten games going on in the morning,

840
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: which I hate, I'll even have my computer. YouTube TV

841
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: has changed the game for me. It's made it possible

842
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: for me to do it. But you got it, I

843
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: just have every game on television. The other thing is

844
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: the longer you do this, you get a pretty good idea.

845
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: Like last week, for example, on Sunday morning, I wasn't

846
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: as locked into like Indie Miami. Like when Miami was

847
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: on offense, I wouldn't even watch the box. Now when

848
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Indy came on, I wanted to watch Anthony Richardson, I

849
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: would pay attention. But on that game or on that morning,

850
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: you had to be dialed into rams line or excuse me, Lions,

851
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: Vikings and Packers Texans. So the other thing is you

852
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: can only I only have one audio of the game.

853
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: So if there are seven or eight games, I have

854
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: one audio going and it's usually the most important game.

855
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate that though. Take the ship seriously, love the

856
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: pod and love the Eagles. I live in Brisbane, Australia,

857
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: and I yelled at the cowboy fan the other day

858
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: the NFL is exploding here in Australia. It's all any

859
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: of the guys at lunch are talking about. It. Used

860
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: to be cricket in the summer, but now rugby in

861
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: the winter, in the NFL in the summer. Keep up

862
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: the good work, mate, Not even a question. Someone asked

863
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: me before if you think the NFL would play a

864
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: game in Australia, and I thought no, because the travels

865
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: pretty long. Do you think the younger generation of GMS

866
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: are so quick to trade because they grew up playing

867
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: fantasy football? Uh, that's a good question. We talked about

868
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: this the other day. I did an opening of a show.

869
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: I think an element is their owners are more likely

870
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: to give them the go ahead, their coaches are more

871
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: on board with doing it. I think these guys are

872
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: so rich now, like if I sign, if I'm a

873
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: GM and I sign, let's say I'm making four million

874
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: dollars a year and I signed a five year contract,

875
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: so I signed twenty million dollars, so financially in life.

876
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: I've made it, and I've made so much money, where

877
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: if I get fired tomorrow, my life's great. My kids'

878
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: life are going to go to the best private schools.

879
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: My wife's cool, she's happy with it. Life. We've made it,

880
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,959
Speaker 1: so I might as well I get this opportunity once.

881
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: A lot of gms don't become retread gms. It's not

882
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: like coaches, as a wise man once long ago told me,

883
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: you better be prepared to get one shot. This isn't

884
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: You're not getting a phone call three years later. That

885
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: is not usually the way it works with gms. So

886
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: I think these guys are aggressive guys. You tend to be.

887
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, just to type a alpha

888
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: male in terms of professional you know, mindset. So the

889
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: reason you got to that spot is because you're kind

890
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: of a fucking killer in the in the corporate structure

891
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: of the NFL, in the scouting executive side. So why not,

892
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: Like what do you gotta lose games? But you got

893
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: this opportunity. If it works out, you become a legend.

894
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: So I think it's probably less about fantasy football and

895
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: more about you're making so much money, let's do this thing,

896
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Let's win. I wonder how many of these gems actually

897
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: played fantasy foototball. I don't know the answer to that.

898
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two big fan of the show. My dad

899
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: used to be a scout for the Cowboys at the

900
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: end of the Landry era, but was let go after

901
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: Jerry bought the team. I've been a Cowboys fan forever

902
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: since I got into football. My question is about Jerry.

903
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: Do you think he will take a step back and

904
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: hire a real GM if he hired Bill Belichick? Or

905
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: do you think we are doomed to have Jerry run

906
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: every aspect of the team for years to come. I

907
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: think as long as Jerry is cognitively functional and erect,

908
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: not literally but like standing, I don't see him relenting

909
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: to that now. Jerry as a GM. Is Jerry watching

910
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: tape all week long? Hell no, is Jerry breaking down

911
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: the free agents in October and November for March? No chance.

912
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: So Jerry is in on all the big moves. But

913
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: like do I think when they need a practice squad guy,

914
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: Jerry's dealing with that. Obviously, if you make a big trade,

915
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: Jerry's going to be involved. And in the offseason, in

916
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: the draft, like he's sitting there but like on the

917
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: day to day in the season. To me, Jerry's problem

918
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: in the season is just constantly talking. I don't think

919
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: he's hurting the team's ability with his like personnel moves.

920
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: Once training camp starts, I think it's much more like Jerry.

921
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: But he can't. I mean he he wants to be

922
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: the star of the show. What I don't understand. I

923
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: mean I get it. I think it's very very difficult

924
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: for guys because I think most humans would go, Jerry,

925
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: just take a step back and chill. Just hire someone,

926
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: enjoy your cash, show up to the games, go to

927
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: the office a couple of days of the week when

928
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: you want enjoy your life. But Jerry would say, this

929
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: is my life. This is watching that Vince McMahon documentary.

930
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: Like Vince had to be dragged away. It's like, Vince,

931
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: you're a billionaire. Why are you still doing this on

932
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: a daily basis? And why we all know people probably

933
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: on way less financial scales. It could be worth five million,

934
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: it could be worth fifty million. It's like, why are

935
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: you still coming into the office so much? You made it,

936
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: you won, It's all they know, which in a weird way,

937
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: I can't admire because like you just want to get

938
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: old and do nothing, and eventually, as you get older,

939
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: you just aren't as capable of like going as fast

940
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: on a daily basis. But some of these guys are

941
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: just addicted to the juice, which I think is something

942
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: we should all aspire to be. Is love something so

943
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: much we kind of want to do it till we die.

944
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: I do think that keeps you going in life, but

945
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: it's also can have. You can become a detriment if

946
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: you're the owner of a company, a football team, whatever,

947
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: because you lose touch as you age. Just human nature,

948
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: you're not as dialed in with everything, and times changed.

949
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: Things pass you by. The elements of the economics structure,

950
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: right change. Jerry's great at making money. He's one of

951
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: the great salesmen in the history of America. He's one

952
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: of the great I would say stewards. For the NFL business,

953
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: he's been awesome. He has a lot of positive but

954
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: individually for the Cowboys, I think sometimes he can be

955
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: a roadblock or in his mind he's doing the right

956
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: thing and he's like, how am I roadblock? No one

957
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: cares about the Cowboys more than me. It's literally my

958
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: life's work. And that's where I think as you get

959
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: into your seventies and eighties, it can start to get weird.

960
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: It really can, and I think we're kind of come

961
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: to that point. Okay, last question, I'd like to go

962
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: back to the top of the twenty three draft and

963
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on how different things would be if

964
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: the Panthers drafted CJ Stroud and Bryce Young went to

965
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: the Texans. Do you think Bryce would have more success

966
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: or can he just not play? How different do you

967
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: think the two teams would look today? I feel like

968
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: CJ would be nowhere near successful with the dysfunctional Panthers,

969
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: but would love your thoughts. I think it'd be very,

970
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: very very difficult for any young player to have success

971
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. These last last year now this year,

972
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton came in and immediately their offense was better.

973
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: So well, CJ is a better player than Bryce Young

974
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's bigger, better thrower, more accurate, more athletic.

975
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, I think a couple years later you just

976
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: realize one guy's just a way better prospect. Would Bryce

977
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: be better on the Texans? I would say yes? Is there

978
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: a chance Bryce is not good? One hundred percent, this

979
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: is a big week for him, Like does he just

980
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: look the exact same, because if he does, then it's

981
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: like maybe he's just terrible. And sometimes you can get

982
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: derailed as a young person, you know, losing confidence. I

983
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: think it happens fast just in general in life. But

984
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: the older you get, it's harder to just throw all

985
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: your confidence in the trash. When you have twenty thirty

986
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: forty years of doing something built up. You can have

987
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: bad days or bad weeks or hell bad year, but

988
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: like it's easier to say the course, when you're young,

989
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, when you got confidence, it feels like

990
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: you're never gonna lose it, and when you lose it,

991
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: you feel like you're never gonna get it back. I

992
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: do think there are just tangible question marks with the player.

993
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: He's very very small, he does not move very well,

994
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: his arm does not look great, and so far he

995
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: has not been accurate at all. So even if you

996
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: are a confident, smart, hard working check all the boxes,

997
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: if you have all these physical things going against you,

998
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, when the when

999
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: the balls kicked off, you just got to play. And

1000
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: if you're simply not good enough, Like you watch Baker

1001
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: as he's gotten his confidence back, you put him with

1002
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: a good team, He's like, this guy's good enough. You

1003
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: watch Jared Goff with a good team like this guy's

1004
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: good enough. You watch Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, like these

1005
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: guys are good enough. Is there a chance Bryce Young

1006
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: never just would have been good enough? And we talked

1007
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the week. If you know, before

1008
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: in college, if you played at one of these great

1009
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: programs like Ohio State, played two or three big games

1010
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: a year. Now they're playing like six or seven, so

1011
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: you have way more data to judge all these players,

1012
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: and maybe it would have looked different. Maybe we will

1013
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: have less draft bus because we see the level of

1014
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: competition they play more consistently. So I don't know. My

1015
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: first thought is if I'm a betting man, I would

1016
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: say he's probably not good. Obviously, if you could flip

1017
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: flop them, things would be different. But you know, I'm

1018
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: a cream rise to the top guy. I think in

1019
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: times CJ would have been okay and might have changed

1020
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the way we look about at the Panthers. And I

1021
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: don't think the Texans would be nearly as good. Would

1022
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: Bryce be as bad as he bent. No, but I

1023
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: would not look at I don't think we'd look at

1024
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: the Texans the same. But those are the great hypotheticals

1025
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: that make this stuff so fun to talk about. We'll

1026
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: never know the answer to those questions. Appreciate everyone listening.

1027
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys Monday morning, coming out with Colin,

1028
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: and we'll have a podcast out after the Sunday night came.

1029
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: So have a good Saturday and Sunday and talk soon later.

1030
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: The volume