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Speaker 1: M what's X in my wise? I'm Robert Evans. How

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Speaker 1: is that? Intro? Guys actually solidly thumbs up all around

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Speaker 1: the room. This is a podcast where I talk about

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Speaker 1: the worst people in all history, can tell you what

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Speaker 1: you don't know about them. Today is part two of

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Speaker 1: our epic three partner podcast on George Lincoln Rockwell, the

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Speaker 1: founder of the idea of neo Nazism, the inventor of

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Speaker 1: Holocaust denial, and the world's first free speech warrior. My

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Speaker 1: guest today, Godie Johnson, Katie Stole, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Where's so good? Now? We have a new sponsor who

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Speaker 1: has not paid us a dime, but who I will

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Speaker 1: be shilling for. Nonetheless, because Cody, you realized that the

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Speaker 1: one love. So you heard it here on Behind the

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Speaker 1: Bastards by Nestley. Coffee Mate, hazel nut and think of

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Speaker 1: semen one one pump, one a hazel nut fan, neither

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Speaker 1: of mine. I don't like coffee Mate, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I really hope coffee mate had stopped listening

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Speaker 1: Could you not read our one pump one slogan? I

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Speaker 1: wonder if they use that same slogan for products other

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Speaker 1: they know the way they did. I mean that one

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Speaker 1: speaking of far right extremists, that could work as the

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Speaker 1: as the slogan for the Proud Boys who don't masturbate.

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Speaker 1: That's because one pump one cream, no pumps, no no

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Speaker 1: creams scream. Speaking of the Proud Boys, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: their ideological great grandfather, George Lincoln Rockwell, I'm gonna say upfront,

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Speaker 1: don't want him. They are going to be a number

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Speaker 1: of there were slurs in the episode at last episode,

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Speaker 1: They're going to be a number of slurs specifically directed

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Speaker 1: read a couple of the other slurs that are used,

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Speaker 1: try to find it, dive into it. Much of George

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Rockwell's career as America's premiere racist involved him following

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Speaker 1: in the footsteps of Martin Luther King Jr. And basically

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Speaker 1: trolling America's premier civil rights icon. On January eighth, nineteen

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Speaker 1: George Lincoln Rockwell was there too, in his own words,

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Speaker 1: cause agitation and run Mr Coon out of town. That

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Speaker 1: You can guess yeah. Quote from Rockwell. Mr C is

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Speaker 1: The only technique is to show these communist type agitators

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Speaker 1: investigation into the American Nazi Party, Rockwell saw this as

426
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: a huge opportunity. He welcomed the investigation because it would

427
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: give him a chance to show up in a full

428
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: Nazi uniform and spew his conspiracy theories in the halls

429
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: of Congress. Feinberg knew this, and he actually begged the U. S.

430
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: Attorney General, Robert Kennedy, not to investigate the American Nazi Party,

431
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: and he got his wife. In nineteen sixty two, when

432
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Rockwell applied for a permit to march in Philadelphia, the

433
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: local Jewish community initially wanted to lobby to have his

434
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: permit denied. Finberg wrote them a letter begging them not

435
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: to interfere with rockwell speech. Quote, you risk Rockwell. Rockwell's

436
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: getting civil Libertarians support all the way to the Supreme

437
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: Court and the publicity and attendant thereon. Without quarantine, any

438
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: anti Semite could become a national figure in short time.

439
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: He need only be dramatic and have plenty of opposition

440
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: here too. Finberg succeeded. Rockwell got to give his speech

441
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: and no one cared. He did not make the news

442
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: from that point on, with some occasional failures and lapses

443
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: the quarantine against George Lincoln, Rockwell held. This prompted him

444
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: to veer towards the only reliable income stream left him,

445
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: the college lectureshires. From nineteen sixty three on, this was

446
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: his only consistent source of income. He never failed to

447
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: draw a sizeable crowd. Much of the media attention he

448
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: received for the rest of his life was for the

449
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: protests and fights that occurred outside these events. Now, Feinberg

450
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: did not worry as much about Rockwell's campus speeches, mainly

451
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: because he just didn't think college kids were dumb enough

452
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: to fall for the Nazi stick. This proved to be true.

453
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: College lectures were good for money, but Rockwell himself knew

454
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Speaker 1: that they would never get him what he wanted. He

455
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: wrote quote, you can't convert people's attitudes by lecturing and reasoning.

456
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: Attitudes can only be changed through emotional engineering. That is

457
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: the key thing. It doesn't matter what the emotion is, love, fear, hatred.

458
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: As long as there is an emotion in a person,

459
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: I can change him. When I agitate in uniform, I

460
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: want people to hate me. I want them emotionally worked up.

461
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: Smart man. Yep, smart smart man. Hate him, hate him,

462
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: smart guy. I'm not a fan. Smart not a fan.

463
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: And so as the nineteen sixties went on, Rockwell attempted

464
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: a variety of garish and bizarre stunts. He did a

465
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: cross country road trip in a converted Volkswagen he called

466
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: the hate Bus, giving speeches and harassing civil rights advocates

467
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: like the freedom writers. I gotta want to you describe

468
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: this bucket bus. Want you describe this fucking hate bus.

469
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's hate bus several several times.

470
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: It's your classic VW bus. As stated that you would

471
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: associate with a hippie, a free loving protel, a bunch

472
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 1: of surf bums, and and then you you look closer.

473
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean it says we hate race mixing. It's right there,

474
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: we do hate. What a bad bus? What a bad

475
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: what a terrible bust. It's terrible bus. You know. He

476
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: also had a racist dog that escaped at one point,

477
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: a racist dog. Wells when the dog was when the

478
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: dog like escaped, he tried to play it up as like, well,

479
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: now some Jewish family like has a dog and they

480
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: don't even know it's racist. But it's like dude, that

481
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: dog's not racist. Dog just didn't want to live with Nazis.

482
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: The dog was like looking for his freedom. Yeah. I

483
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: think it's really funny that the dog's name was gas Chamber.

484
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah, that's true. No, I mean not

485
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: after he found a new family. Your gas Chamber hate

486
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: it do not like unsubscribed to everything you've said so far,

487
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: we're about to say about that hate bus, Joddy, I

488
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: think it's funny, uh that the hate bus well a

489
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: hate isn't quotes Yeah, yes, quote hate bus um, but

490
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: it says several times Lincoln Rockwell's hate bus. Yeah, he

491
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that you knew it's his hate bus,

492
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: not all the other hate bus. Lincoln Rockwell hate branding.

493
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on in that hate bus. Yeah,

494
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: real fun time. Should he use g L R YEA.

495
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: In nineteen six, the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party held elections

496
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: for three representatives. They attempted to seat the three women

497
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: who won during the Roke Hall for that year's opening

498
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: session of Congress. It was an act of protest, basically

499
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: protesting the fact that like there isn't good Black representation

500
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: in Congress. We're gonna elect our own leaders, and we're

501
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: going to try to send him in Congress, and you

502
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: know they'll get kicked out, but it'll get it was.

503
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: It was a smart idea for a protest. It generated

504
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: a lot of publicity. Rockwell attempted to suckle some of

505
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: that publicity for himself by having two of his men,

506
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: including that guy Lloyd with the guerrilla suit, show up

507
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: to watch the proceedings. Lloyd managed to find an empty

508
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: room and changed into his incredibly racist costume. Yeah, there's

509
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: a picture. It's from a cover of Stormtrooper magazine where

510
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: this was written about. I gotta give this one to

511
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: Cody since I view the bust Katie. It's a smaller image,

512
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: but it's ghastly right. That is that is black face? Yeah,

513
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: I when I first read it was like, oh my god.

514
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: The headline though, oh no, the US Nazi in black face,

515
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous Mississippi n words in Congress? Is the is the title?

516
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: It's it's the title of the article. It's a title

517
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: the article in Stormtrooper magazine and Stormtrooper magazine. I know

518
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: it's shocking to find racism and Stormtrooper magazine. D Yeah,

519
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: that'll be up on the site. Behind the bastards dot

520
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: com because the slur is pretty small. It's a small image,

521
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's there. It's it's there. It's something that happened,

522
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: um So, Lloyd sprinted from his changing room directly into

523
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the halls of Congress. I'm gonna read a quote from

524
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: four Race and Nation. Lloyd raced out of the room

525
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: and down the hall to the exclusive stairway that only

526
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: members of Congress use. He bolted up the stairs to

527
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: the lobby level, past two slouching policemen. As he knewed

528
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: the chamber entrance. A black doorkeeper spott at him and

529
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: moved to black his path, but Lloyd, running at top speed,

530
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: slammed a shoulder into the man, went through the door

531
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: and jumped into the well of the house. Donning his

532
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: stovepipe hat, he yelled, I'm not gonna use He yelled

533
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: this in like a racist diction, trying to like I'm

534
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: the Mississippi delegation. I demand to be seated. Members of

535
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: the House were stunned by the intrusions. Total silence filled

536
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: the room as Lloyd jumped and danced, making unintelligible monkey

537
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: noises sense legitimately crazy sound. I mean he was a

538
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: mentally ill man. Lloyd was a mentally ill man that

539
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Rockwell used to do stunts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but still yeah,

540
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: the thing that happened, that's the thing that happened. I'm

541
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: not getting into it in this because there's just so

542
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: much to cover. But the book for Racing Nation is

543
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: a good job of talking about the kind of people

544
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: who became Rockwell Stormtroopers. And they were all pretty broken

545
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: into uh not all of whom would stay Nazis their

546
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: whole lives. Yeah. Uh. The event was considered such a

547
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: propagandicoo that a picture of Lloyd made the next month's

548
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: cover of Stormtrooper magazine, which we just looked at it.

549
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Stunts like these succeeded in drawing up some publicity and

550
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: some donations, but the American public short attention span ensured

551
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: their interest inevitably faded with time. Rockwell continuously searched for

552
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: a way to get people emotionally worked up. The next year,

553
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, was a time of great unrest in

554
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: the United States. There were numerous riots across the East Coast.

555
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Near the end of that year. In Chicago, the Housing

556
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Authority made the decision to try and relieve some of

557
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: the overcrowding in their ghetto by expanding public housing to

558
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: some of the less populated parts of the city. However,

559
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: the less populated parts of the city were white. These

560
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: people were infuriated at the idea of maybe living close

561
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: to black people. Martin Luther King Jr. Showed up to

562
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: try and help the people make the world a better

563
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: place to do the things that Martin Luther King Jr. Did,

564
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: those classic, classic and okay things, and so Rockwell showed

565
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: up as well to try and stoke the fires of

566
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: racial resentment for power and profit. He gave a speech

567
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: at Marquette Park where he said, quote, you're working every

568
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: day to pay taxes to breed little black bastards. You're

569
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: subsidizing negro mothers who produced this little black scum for pay,

570
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: and then when they don't have any place to live,

571
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: they want to come and take your house and neighborhood. Yep.

572
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: Notice he did not say the N word there, He

573
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: did not use a racial slur there. Hey, this is

574
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: good for him and for him, this is part of

575
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: a tactic that works incredibly well. Now, this all came

576
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: in the middle of the schism within the American Nation

577
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: Nazi party. Rockwell had come up with a brilliant slogan,

578
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: something he thought would really take off among the American public.

579
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: You want, I guess what his two words slogan was

580
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: that he invented a best white power what. Yeah, he

581
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: invented white power upsetting real innovator. He's done so many,

582
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: did so many of these things. He's the guys form.

583
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh like, invented neo Nazism, Holocaust denial, trolling colleges for

584
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: free speech purposes to raise donations, and white powers and

585
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: we're not done such a big legacy. Are you going

586
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: to add to the list? Did he start saying like

587
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: it's okay to be white and like painting that on

588
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: like college campuses too? Not quite? Not quite? This is

589
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: the seed? Yeah? Man? Did he sell brain bills? He

590
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: would have been selling brainforce if he could. Absolutely was

591
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: the capsules lead and lyzi Yeah that soy and oh god,

592
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: speaking of brain pills, although that's actually one of my

593
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: hardlines for advertising, as I won't sell brain, I'll sell

594
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot of other kinds of pills because I love pills,

595
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: not brain. To understand, it's adds time products services, one pump.

596
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: We are back When we last left off, Rockwell had

597
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: invented a slogan called white power and he was flirting

598
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: with what with the author of Flaration Nation calls denazification

599
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: of the American Nazi Party. Would you say the notification

600
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: or demonication down? So there were two. But yeah, Brockwell's

601
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: side was basically like, we need to be a little

602
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: bit less explicit about the Nazi stuff because that's not

603
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: getting votes, and we need to pcus more on white

604
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: identity and getting white people behind. There also something we

605
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: see today. Yeah yeah, but wait I thought that. But okay,

606
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: but according to Jordan's B. Peterson, a doctor, a doctor, uh,

607
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: the right didn't start playing identity politics until very recently

608
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: in response to the left. Yeah, well, I got my

609
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: first question with that is was nineteen sixty six recently?

610
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: No really, not according as a while ago. Fascinating. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah,

611
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: so that's interesting. I'm confused. And it's possible he's disingenuous

612
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: and playing from the same handbook as the fewer of

613
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: the American Nazi Party. No, no, not Dr Jordan B. Peterson.

614
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: I suppose it's possible, but it's not probable. It's not probable,

615
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: not probable. Speaking of not probable George Lincoln Rockwell's incredible

616
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: success in Chicago, so he had T shirts and placards

617
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: printed up with the phrase white power on them. He

618
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: worked the phrase into his speeches in Chicago, marking the

619
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: first time the white power slogan was ever used. One

620
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: of his stormtroopers, John Padler, also coined the phrase the

621
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: color of your skin is your uniform, which, if you

622
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time listening to Nazis talk about

623
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: their apocalyptic race war fantasies, that line comes up all

624
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: of the goddamn time to O G S. Yeah, goat

625
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: the goat. Yeah, he's he is the goat of American racism.

626
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: He's definitely earned that. He's earned that. We're not being

627
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: the wote WoT the wote we do we could do

628
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: go and keep it, but like gross of all time,

629
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: grossest of all time, the grossest of all time, There

630
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: we go, There we go. I don't know, I could

631
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: probably do better, but I'm on the gross old asshole. Yeah, time,

632
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. We'll figure out. Chicago marked the

633
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: first and only time Rockwell and his Nazis saw mainstream

634
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: penetration for their rhetoric, stoking the fires of white fear

635
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: and resentment of black people worked way better than anti

636
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: Semitic conspiracy theories. On August sixth, nineteen sixty six, Martin

637
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Speaker 1: Luther King Jr. Led a group of marchers through Gauge Park.

638
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: He was met by an enormous crowd of counter protesters,

639
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: organized and radicalized by George Lincoln Rockwell. They numbered more

640
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: than twenty five hundred. The crowd carried placards and banners

641
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: and blasted with Rockwell quotes like joined the white rebellion,

642
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: and we worked hard for what we got. Thousands of

643
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: furious voices shouted white power at King and his comrades.

644
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: They threw things, they assaulted them. It was a violent

645
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: attack on doctor Martin Luther King and his marchers. One

646
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: of King's comrades at the time, a guy named Andrew Young,

647
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: later recalled quote, the violence in the South always came

648
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: from a rabbel element. But these were women and children

649
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: and husbands and wives coming out of their homes and

650
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: becoming a mob, and in some ways it was far

651
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: more frightening. Doctor King himself was shocked at the ferocity

652
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: of the violence he and his marchers faced in Chicago,

653
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: saying quote, I've never seen anything like it. I've been

654
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: in many demonstrations all across the South, and I have

655
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: never seen, even in Mississippi and Alabama mobs as hostile

656
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: in hate field. It was a huge victory for Rockwell.

657
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: White power took up as a concept and as a slogan,

658
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: and still remains popular among shitty races today. Rockwell did

659
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: not succeed in converting the whites of chicagoan to Nazis,

660
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: but he made powerful inroads into radicalizing them. The Chicago

661
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: open housing protests would prove to be the high water

662
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: mark of George Lincoln Rockwell's career. Almost exactly one year later,

663
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: on August nineteen sixty seven, George Lincoln Rockwell rolled down

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Speaker 1: to a laundromat in Arlington, Virginia to do a load

665
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: of laundry. He forgot his bleach, and as he headed

666
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: out to his car to go get it, two shots

667
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: were fired into the window of his nineteen sixty eight Chevy.

668
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: He fell out and landed face up in the parking lot,

669
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Speaker 1: dead from a gunshot wound to the heart at age

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Speaker 1: forty nine. The killer was not an anti Nazi activist

671
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: or an aggrieved Jewish veteran or anyone like that. It

672
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: was John Padler, former US Marie and one of Rockwell's

673
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: longest serving stormtroopers. The gun used, appropriately enough, was a

674
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: German Mauser piston knats again to kill the Nazi Wow.

675
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Then Peddler and Rockwell had a somewhat contentious history. Padler

676
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: quit and rejoined the party a few times and was

677
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: distrusted by many of the movement because he was a

678
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: Greek and thus not white enough, including to some of

679
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: the Nazis. The scentages off bro Sorry. He was also

680
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: considered a suspected Marxist for reasons that are unclear to me.

681
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: They're always suspected Marxists. That was the best they got.

682
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Rockwell had also recently pushed him out of the A

683
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: and p uh and so it was yeah. Padler was

684
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: convicted of murder in the first degree. Rockwell's funeral was

685
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: as controversial as his life had been. As a veteran,

686
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: he was entitled to a military funeral at a state cemetery,

687
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: but the military would not allow his followers to wear

688
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Nazi uniforms or fly Nazi flags at a cemetery filled

689
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: with American war dead, many of whom had died fighting

690
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: the Nazis. Smart move smart moves. I feel like, once

691
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: you become a Nazi, you've just invalidated your time fighting Nazis.

692
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: So could not I could have done without it. But

693
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: at least there are no Nazi flags. Well the Nazis.

694
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: The Nazis tried, they they the Nazis with Rockwell's body

695
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: tried to show up and force their way in Regalia,

696
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: which led to a six hour standoffs of Rockwell's hearse

697
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: and military police. Eventually, the Nazis backed down and cremated

698
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: Rockwell instead. Okay, there's a not entirely heartbreaking coda to this,

699
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: although I guess Nazi getting shots not that bad either.

700
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Petler got out of prison. He was only in there

701
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: for twenty some odd years, like twenty two years, and

702
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: his story is the closest thing to uplifting. You're going

703
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: to get out of this whole mess. His son actually

704
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: wrote the afterword for the book for Race and Nation.

705
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: It is a heartbreaking and compassionate essay well worth reading,

706
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: and it he talks about his father's like abusive childhood,

707
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: the things that a lot of the kids who became

708
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Nazis endured, the things Rockwell had endured as a child,

709
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: and like, how these broken people came to such a

710
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: hateful It's a very insightful and compassionate look by someone

711
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: who you know, grew up with a dad who had

712
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: done all this stuff. Um. And In the essay, Patler's

713
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: son relates this story about his father from after he

714
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: got out of prison. Quote, one night in Richmond, Virginia,

715
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Speaker 1: after leaving a restaurant, my father stood silently by my car,

716
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: with his eyes frozen on the ground. In a somber tone,

717
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: he said, I should have been with them with who

718
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: I asked, I should have been with Dr King and

719
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: the civil rights people back then. He answered, they were

720
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: truly my people, not those Nazis. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty heartbreaking. Yeah,

721
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: that gave me. Yeah. For his part, George Lincoln Rockwell

722
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: did not leave much behind. His estate was just two

723
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: d and fifty seven dollars in cash, a corn cob pipe,

724
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: and a bunch of racist pamphlets. But Rockwell's real legacy

725
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: would prove to be much more extensive and much deadlier

726
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: than any fortune could ever have been. And that's what

727
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: we will be talking about in Part three of this podcast.

728
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: The sixty year long spree of murders, bombings, and hatred

729
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: that all sprawn sprung spawned from the mental loins of

730
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Speaker 1: George Lincoln Rockwell. You could say for him it was

731
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: one pump a whole lot of cream. Does not stop

732
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Speaker 1: from that mainstream penetration. Penetration. Yea, God, that word just

733
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: makes me so happy. Uh So, I mean, what do

734
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: you guys think about George Lincoln Rockwell? Not a fan,

735
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: not a fan. It is astounding to hear all laid

736
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: out like this and see how directly he is responsible. Yeah,

737
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: every every single time I come on this show, he's like,

738
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: by the way, here's history, but now his ghost is thrilled. Yea,

739
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: and so many things, many of them. Yeah. What do

740
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: you think he would be? He wouldn't be. Would he

741
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: be a Republican? Would he be a liberal because liberals

742
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: are the party of anti He would not be for

743
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: pro Israel? I think he Yeah, I really have trouble

744
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: telling with rock Wall. He'd be an intellectual dark webber.

745
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: I think that I think he would not be. I

746
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: think he would be kind of like Peterson, not explicitly political,

747
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: and that he wouldn't advocate for a party directly. I

748
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: think he would be more about trying to get an

749
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: ideology across that there were that works better now. Um, yeah,

750
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: he'd be he did, playing to the resentments and grievances

751
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: and stuff and sort of lifting up all the like

752
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: like the logical next step of like the white power stuff.

753
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: He'd be talking about, like white identity. He'd be a

754
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: white identity person like like a moll in you, but

755
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: more explicit Nazi stuff. Maybe. I don't know, because I

756
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: think he he really wanted he really wanted mainstream appeal,

757
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: and his his goal from the beginning, if you remember

758
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: from the episode one, was to unite conservatives. So I

759
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: think he would be explicitly political. I think he would

760
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: be less explicitly racist. I don't even know if he

761
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: came out around today, if he would be explicitly anti Semitic, right,

762
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: he plays that doesn't play like you have some tea

763
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: party faction within the party. He'd maybe go into politics

764
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: and think there's a good chance he'd have been elected.

765
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, right, I mean, look, we've got King,

766
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: we got good speaker. He was Karissman speaker, handsome guy, guy, smart,

767
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: very smart, good at branding. Yeah. Um, and yeah, he'd

768
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: played he'd played it that and he wouldn't be yeah

769
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: as explicitly like, Yeah, I have a lot of questions

770
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: about what rock Wall would be if he were alive today,

771
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: But one thing I know for sure is that he

772
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: would have worked with Roger Stone. Yeah, they would. They

773
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: would have plans, They would have so many plans. What

774
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: you did he die again? I think it was sixty seven, right, yeah? Seven.

775
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: I think he would have um uh played up stuff

776
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: with like Milo or because Milo is technically he's technically

777
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: he's Jewish, right, Yeah, I think so like like despot

778
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: him probably. I think he probably think the thing that

779
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: amazed him that would have made him despise Milo was

780
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: Milo's Milo's attitude never had a chance of getting mainstream

781
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: acceptance because he's just too off putting and he doesn't care.

782
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: He like, he's very noncommittal to everything and yeah, like

783
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of he's a chaos agent or whatever. Milo doesn't

784
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: believe in ship exactly. Rockwell believed he wouldn't have gone

785
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: through the ship that he did because he suffered for right, right,

786
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: he figured out that his pain, Yeah, his pain drove

787
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: him to Yeah, so I think he's uh, and I

788
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: don't think I think he would have been smarter than

789
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: a guy like Richard Spencer, because I don't think Richard

790
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: Spencer was very cunning. No, he didn't play it well.

791
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: He I mean, he got the platform, he got that

792
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: article about him. He was dapper, but he didn't he

793
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: didn't play it well after that, didn't play it well after.

794
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Milo doesn't believe in anything. Milo does not believe in

795
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: anything except for having money. Um. And I don't think

796
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Rockwell would have been I think he might have used

797
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: him at something, not like aligned with him, but just

798
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: sort of like using the movement and the drive. I

799
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: think Rockwell would have really gotten along with a guy

800
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: like Steve Bannon, was a clever political operator who believes

801
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: the ship out of things y um. And to be honest,

802
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: that's a more likely pairing than him and Roger Stone

803
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: because Roger isn't leaving ship either. I would have like

804
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Yeah, he probably would have. He probably would

805
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: have or he'd be president. He just he just would

806
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 1: have been the president now because they're playing, they're playing.

807
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: He didn't know. He didn't dodge two of them because

808
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: he got shot to death. It's all that white, the resentment,

809
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: grieving stuff and rock Will seems seems to know how

810
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: to do it and to do it on purpose, whereas

811
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: like Trump sort of like fell into it because he

812
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: just happens to be like a in the last year

813
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: of his life is when he really figured Outland And

814
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, exactly, that's that's my through line.

815
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: That's the thing that everybody yeah that he can get.

816
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Steve Sailor, he's a he's like a kind of like

817
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: white nationalists kind of figure. He writes on v dare

818
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: a lot and stuff. Um. The referred to as this

819
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: Sailor strategy is an article he came out with like

820
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: two thousand five or something like that, and it literally

821
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: lays out like, here's what Republicans need to do. They

822
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: need to play to white entity politics, need to get

823
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: these votes. He basically lays out like and the anti immigration,

824
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: He blays out everything in Donald Trump's platform basically and

825
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: his whole ideology. Um, and it's just like, yeah, here's

826
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, um uh, just to bring back

827
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: real quick. Uh. At one point, h Jordan P. Peterson,

828
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: who hates identity politics, shared an article by Steve Saylor,

829
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: who analyzed a study about diversity that cut out half

830
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: of the article, uh, and study that actually said diversity

831
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: is good in the long run. Well, but that sounds

832
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: like Jordan Peterson's uh, intellectually dishonest, and that can't be

833
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: the case. It can't be the case. There's there's another,

834
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: but it's not probable. If it's not probable, no, no

835
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: more cum jokes. It's time for plugs of the plug bowls.

836
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna plug now. As as I

837
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: mentioned in part one, this was originally supposed to be

838
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: part of a five part audio book about where all

839
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: this fucking right wing terrorism comes from, because it's a

840
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: weird history, and like we didn't even get into Christian identity,

841
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: which rock Wall ties into, which is also tied into

842
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: Robert Bowers, the Trio Left synagogue shooting, a bunch of others.

843
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: All of this stuff you want it all laid out

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