WEBVTT - Ep. 31: Pick a Finger and Feed It to a Pike 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.600 They're not solid like a striper and not like you 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:06.480 can't like give him a punch and send him back. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.319 That's an old law and it's almost as unvalid as 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.680 the New Jersey State large mouth record. When they got 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.400 the fish close enough to see it roll in their 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:20.120 head laps, doctor's young daughter blurted out, holy shit, this 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.200 is the dumbest, just the most pokey thing ever, maybe 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:30.600 even on part with the Penis Lord. Good morning, degenerate anglers. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.919 Welcome to Bent the Fishing podcast that ranks Captain Ron, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.320 Backdraft and Nothing but Trouble among the greatest movies ever made, 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.720 though not necessarily in that order. I'm Joe Surmellie A. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.560 Miles Nulty. That's it's a solid list. I'm gonna add 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.960 pulp Fiction, The Big Lebowski, and Gross point Blank to 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:55.640 that list. Gross point blank really, absolutely dude, such an 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.640 underrated film, such a good film. So so. John Cusack 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.560 plays a hit man in the middle of an identity 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.720 crisis who goes to his tenure high school reunions. It's 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:11.559 brilliant writing, it's great acting. It's just very very dark humor, 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.560 which I always appreciate. And it just happens to be 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.480 the theme of this week's show. You know, all have 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.240 husbands and wives and children and houses and dogs, and 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.200 you know they'll make themselves a part of something and 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.600 they can talk about what they do. And what am 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.200 I going to say? I killed the president of Paraguay 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.520 with a fork? How have you been? Aren't you excited? 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.080 I gotta admit, dude, Like I remember the movie, and 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.759 I remember thinking it was kind of funny. Like I 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.240 I remember I enjoyed the movie when I saw it, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:46.200 But it's it's not one that that I thought was 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.480 so memorable, like I quoted it with my friends forever. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.120 It's no Freddie got fingered in terms of quotables, you 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.280 know what I mean. I mean, I disagree, but I 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.400 think it's true of you and most people. Frankly, like 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.360 I'm the only weird over my group of friends from 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.000 that that era that was always quoting. I was like 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:03.840 the lone guy who would dropped the quote center be 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.200 like what, But you're all wrong because it is straight 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.120 up brilliant filmmaking. Listen, I'm gonna I'll give it to you, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.399 and I anticipate that you're going to try to convince 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.520 me I'm wrong Throughout this episode. I was the old 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.720 goal of this episode, welcome to convince you that you're 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.320 wrong by all means do Yeah, And we're not gonna 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.280 be able to get into this, but I think this 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.359 is this is an argument that will appeal to you. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:33.800 I mean, just the soundtrack alone includes almost every good 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.120 song from the late eighties, dude, we're talking about, like 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:40.919 the specials, Faith, No More, Mellie Mel The score. The 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.960 score for that film was actually written and recorded by 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.480 Joe Strummer, who was the former lead singer of the Clash. Yes, Yes, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.720 it is a It is a great musical film. It's 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.239 a tremendous selling point like that right there. But see, 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:54.880 I don't remember that. It's been so long since I've 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.239 seen it. I don't. I cannot say I remember the soundtrack. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.280 I do vaguely recall, though, tell me if I'm wrong. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.200 Like Ackroyd pretty much played the same character. He didn't 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.000 Tommy Boy, I didn't he have like kind of the 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.919 same thing going on. There's there's there are some similarities there. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.800 I can see that. I can see that. I do 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.480 not know exactly how you're going to tie this all 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.160 the fishing, though, I'm I'm on the Journey with You. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:20.040 I'm excited. The movie has absolutely nothing to do with fishing, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.080 but I'm confident in myself here. I think I think 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.480 there are elements to it that that that that we 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.919 can draw from. We've done this before, like we've drawn 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.839 things out of but we've squeezed, especially out of out 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.680 of pop culture stones. So I'm I'm I'm confident that 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.760 we can do this right because this movie is partially 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.880 about coming to terms with the fact that you can 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.840 never go back in time. But that doesn't mean that 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.320 you should try to erase or forget the past, right, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.520 And we on the show, we talked about older lures 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.160 or baits or flies or materials that might not be 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.080 the hot new thing but still catch the hell out 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.640 of fish. You can't go back to the days when 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.160 those lures were new and and the fish hadn't seen 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.240 him before, but that doesn't mean that you like ignore 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.200 them or turn your back on them. And I realized 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.600 that my example there is not as dramatic as say, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.680 I don't know, saving your long lost girlfriend's father from 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.760 being executed by dan Ackroyd and professing your love to 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.280 her after you murder a dude in cold blood right 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.480 in front of her eyes. But you know, I think 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:28.240 the overall lesson here is still applicable, Debbie, I mean, love, 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:34.320 I know we can make this relationship work. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:39.719 I mean it's it's it's a it's a giant stretch, yes, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.039 but I do see your angle. I mean, the movie 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.479 is pretty heavy on the that you can never go 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.359 home theme. So I'm understanding where my living room was, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.039 and it's not here because my house is gone and 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.320 it's an Altomart you can never go home again open, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.680 but I guess you can shop there. And even though 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.520 it's all about him going home, I think that's totally 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.719 applicable In fishing. It seems like most people are either 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.840 complaining right about how things aren't as good as they 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.840 used to be or or glorifying the past as better 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:17.240 than it actually was. Or they assume anything or anyone 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.560 that predates YouTube has nothing useful to offer. So for 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.839 the for the record, both of those assumptions are are bullshit. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.680 As far as I'm concerned, the past probably wasn't as 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.400 good as you remember, and and the new ship isn't 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.800 really all that superior, honestly, well put, I completely agree 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.040 with you. Uh and That sets me a nice because 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:37.719 we're starting things off this week with a guy who 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.320 understands the past, embraces the present, and we'll also be 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.919 continuing to catch the hell out of fish in the future. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.880 Back again to play our trivia game. We've got Mr 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.440 Mike I Connelly. You gotta be highly skilled for these shows. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.039 You understand that if you're well burst there, you're very 0:05:56.120 --> 0:06:00.760 smart man. All right, today play in trivia. We are 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.200 very excited to welcome back the one and only Mike, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.960 Ike and Elly. How goes it, Mike? How you doing? 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.880 We're good, We're good. Uh, pumped to see again. We 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.880 as always appreciate your time and so you you've been 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.640 here before and you've done our covering water segment where 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.880 we rapid fire questions you and you really have no 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.520 time to think about your answers, which was a good time. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.800 We enjoyed that. Uh, and now we're going to kind 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.920 of go the opposite way. It's traditional bar style trivia, 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:31.160 so no time limits, but more in depth questions. Um. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.120 And I gotta tell you, man, we we worked really 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.960 hard on questions for this. Yeah. We kicked it back 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.680 and forth trying to trying to stump you and come 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.440 up with the right thing. And you know, we we 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.960 get so far down the line of approving a question 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.080 and somebody be like, of course, Mike's gonna know that. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.520 It's freaking Mike. I can Elli. We have to try harder. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.440 He's gonna know. I'm really curious though, with one of 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.279 these questions. I'm very curious to see. Yeah, if you 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.799 have this nugget of knowledge rattling around in the bring, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.560 we'll see how we did. So we've got two questions 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.680 for you. And while it definitely would be fun to 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.080 stump you, you might sail right through these. And our 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.799 effort was for not um. So if you're ready to play, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.560 are you ready to play? I'm ready guys. By the way, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.320 I just want to clear up, you can't win anything like, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:19.240 there's no you just lose your dignity. That's all. That's 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:23.280 all that's offer here. I'm just as excited either way. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.520 So all right, here we go. So here we go. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:30.400 All right? First question, what was the skirt on the 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:35.120 first rubber skirted bass jig made from? Was it a 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:40.360 thinly sliced rubber bands be elastic threads unraveled from a 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:44.480 woman's girdle see a rubber grass skirt that came off 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:51.840 a souvenir hula dancer or d shredded latex surgical gloves. Wow, 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:57.320 that's You've actually stumped me right from the first question. Yes, yes, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.360 they're all very interesting. I don't I don't know. I'm 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.440 this is honestly, I guess. I'm gonna say some of 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.760 the original uh old jig skirts that I remember seeing 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.520 we're we're living rubber, they were more of a rubber 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.120 type of material. So I'm gonna go a but it's 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.160 a total guess, and that's a good guess. That's a 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.680 good guest. Thinly sliced rubber bands, but it's actually be 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.240 elastic threads unraveled from a woman's girdle. And of course 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.200 that's that's that's Bob Karnes prototype the first rubber bass jigs, 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.680 and that's what he used. And of course he's the 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.960 man behind Archie Jigs, which every bass angler on the 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:37.120 planet knows. Archie Jiggs arguably the father of modern bass jigs, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.000 and they're still around today. But according to our research, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.880 the first one woman's girdle. Wow, that's very interesting. That's 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.880 very very interesting. I can tell you that there is 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:52.520 a time and a place for that style material. Even today, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.080 even in two thousand twenty, with technology and new materials, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:00.760 when that water temperature gets cold and the fishings to off, 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.600 that old style material is still really the deal. So 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.360 knowing this, I'm hopping on eBay right now, I'm trying 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.200 to find some of that, some girdles, some girdles from 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.839 the from the sixties. We've we've we've thrown out the 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.000 history of of girdles in lure design in the past 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.199 because the classic fly, the girdle bug, got its legs 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:25.800 from all right, So we'll move on to question too. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.360 We'll have a little more fun with this one. You're 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.600 a Jersey guy like me, so this time I'm going 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:34.079 to test your knowledge of New Jersey state laws. Dumb, dumb, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.720 dumb state laws. Though you know how you know every 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.000 state has dumb, weird laws that are still on the 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.240 books from medieval times. It's like a big thing on 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.880 the internet. Well, I did a little reading. New Jersey 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.840 has a bunch of them. And according to those archaic laws, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.600 which of the following, is it illegal for New Jersey 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:59.800 men to do during fishing season? A knit b get married? 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:10.040 See plant tomatoes or d feud with a neighboring farm. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.079 It's funny when when you said I know these answers, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.680 I thought, maybe you know I'm a pretty not this one. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.839 But I thought you'd get the jake, not this one. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.680 Like I'm I'm a fishing you know, I like fishing. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.760 I'm a buff of the sport and information. But now 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.160 I'm just this is another one that's stumping me. I'm 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.000 gonna have to go d what was the fourth one? 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.959 I'm going to feud with a neighboring farm the record, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.200 I would have chosen that one as well. Sounds sounds 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.760 like has the most legality to it, you know, well, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:45.080 yeah no, but the answer is a knit, so yeah, right. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.000 So there's there's a lot of speculation online whether this 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.880 is still on the books, though it was on our 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.840 books and check this out. The best reason anyone could 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.240 come up with, um was that it was illegal for 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.320 men to knit during fishing season on the Island of 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.199 Sark which is one of the Channel islands that the 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.360 Island of Jersey belongs to. And that's because the islands 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.839 were apparently known for their famous woolen jumpers, which were 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.600 a source of income. But if the men were knitting 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.600 during fishing season, they weren't out fishing, which was the 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.120 island's bigger source of income. And when the Jersey Island 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.040 people re established themselves and what we now know is 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:26.040 dirty Jersey, this law came along with them. Wow, how 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.199 about that one? I had particular question for the record, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.960 like I helped with the first one, but this one's 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.920 news to me too. I got nothing here. This is 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.560 very interesting and so weird. That's an old law and 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.400 it's almost as unvalid as the new Jersey state large 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.120 mouth record. It's ten thirteen Robert Eastley, which he snagged 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.760 a Manico Sampans off the bed, so it should be 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.120 a race anyway. But well, there's also a Jersey law 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.719 in the book that says it's illegal to wear a 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.640 bulletproof vessell committing a murder. That was another one that 0:11:55.679 --> 0:12:00.480 I file backwards, very backwards, very much. So well, you 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.960 know what, I'm happy about the jig one I like, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.680 I stumped. I stumped Mike I Cannelli on an old 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.960 bass fishing luwer question. So, um, you might not have 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.480 one today, But like we said, there was nothing to 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.280 win anyway, but we certainly appreciate you coming by to play, man, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.600 I appreciate it. They were fun questions and you might 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.400 hear those same questions on IKE Live because they're so good. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.800 I'm stealing them and asking our guests still over there now. 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.760 Until we started working on the show and doing this research, man, 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.800 I had no idea how influential girdles were and luer design. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.800 I was totally unaware. Neither did I I had. I 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.920 had no clue. I had no clue. Yeah, I actually remember, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.960 like I remember those old school rubber legs and skirts 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:50.959 they used to be able to find that were the 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:55.720 super fine thin elastic bands. Yeah, they and they look 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.280 they do. They look just like what pops out of 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.160 the waistband and your underwear, your sweatpants when they're like 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.040 they give up on life and it's just done right. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.560 It's those same bands of elastic and those ones don't 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.720 hold up as long as the silicone stuff, but I 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.760 think they do have more wiggle. Yeah. See, I like 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.800 natural rubber myself more than the silicone versions. You know 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:20.600 what I mean. Burn, I'm not I'm not. I'm not 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.559 gonna take that. I know. I see what you're doing there, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.240 and I'm not gonna let you manipulate me that way. Uh. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.280 That also does set me up for the sail bin 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.840 you put together this week. Oh yeah, it absolutely does. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:37.400 I see the silicone connection clearly, but but not totally 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.559 sure how it fits your your gross, point blank theme. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.960 Don't overthink it, man, it's not that deep. It's not 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.320 deep at all. Actually, the film, like we said, is 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.719 a super dark comedy. There's a lot of murder and 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.920 gore and blood, but it's still a comedy. And the 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.840 sail bin you dug up from the crypt this week, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.920 I'd say it clearly fits that dark comedy. Mold, Why 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.560 did you put the hand to pay? You don't know 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.520 what I'm getting? Man? What you didn't have to be 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.720 so hurtful with me so angry? Today's sale bin item 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.600 was sent our direction by listener Billy Warren and ge 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.320 we can't thank him enough, and Miles and I had 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:14.280 two very different gut reactions to it. Okay, now you sir, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.360 you're you're taking it at face value. But for me, 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.800 this has triggered my inner clarice starling Okay, and it 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.280 feeds right into my my obsession with like the Hunt 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.800 Hunt Killer documentaries. You know, forensic science and profiling psychopaths. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:35.720 That's what I do on the weekends. I'm in a club. Um, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:41.880 the fishing thing is all fake. Yeah. Anyway, regarding this 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.280 saleban item, I am convinced there is more than meets 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.720 the eye. As far as I am concerned, there's more 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:55.040 than meets the eye. Okay, there isn't there is not. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.040 But I agreed that we should do this sale bin 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.560 because I think I think it would be fun to 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.840 listen to you build your weird paranoid case. And and 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.720 like I said, it fits nicely with the dark comedy 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.840 theme that we put together for this episode, So I'm 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.160 happy to have it. But I think you're totally wrong. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.560 Yeah yeah, until you see, until you find out what's 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.480 in the box, you know what I'm saying. Uh, And 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.920 I actually think you you agree to do this because 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.600 there's a part of you that doesn't want to be wrong. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.320 You don't want to be the naysayer that overlooks puzzle 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:30.040 piece number one in a in a sick drama, I'm confident. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.800 While unfollowed after the show airs, Okay, anyway, listen up. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.480 This one's for the all the dare I say, Internet 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.840 sleuths out there. So this this post comes from Facebook 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:45.320 marketplace in Wisconsin, and the title is very simply fingerlures, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:51.720 exclamation point fingerlures, fingerlure. Okay. The finger lures are fifteen 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.960 dollars a piece. And in the photo, and mind you, 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.120 because this is a clue, this is part of it. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.880 Mind you, there's only one photo available, just one there 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.480 not ten photos to scroll through like other Facebook marketplace, 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.880 but one photo, okay, And in it we see three 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.440 severed human fingers that have been through wired and turned 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:17.080 into killer inline spinners. That was bad. That was bad, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.120 almost as bad as the lures. The lures are terrible, Like, 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.720 I don't you're not painting how crappy these lures are. 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.280 If you, if you kind of start from the back 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.400 and move to the front, you got one trouble hook 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.520 on these, and and between the three examples and the photos, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.320 only two of the troubles even seemed to match, So 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.000 it's just like a mix and match spare parts assembly. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.800 Then there's like a few colored beads and a willow 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.320 leaf spinner blade that's resting right on top of the 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.760 fat severed end of the finger. And I don't even 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.160 think that thing will turn I don't. I don't think 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.760 it'll turn in. I don't think this lower would have 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.520 any action. Continue. The wire then continues through the finger, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.840 out the tip to another series of beads, and then 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.600 and then the line tie. I. So essentially you've got 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.600 a law urge and frankly shitty looking spinner with a 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.680 human finger or a fake human finger, I should say, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.600 skewered in the middle of it. I I would like 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.680 to call this an overpriced gimmick lure to catch suckers. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.879 That's how I would describe it. Okay, so we've described it, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.840 but now I'm gonna because this is where it gets dark, right, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.320 All the description of the item says is silicone rubbers, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.440 severed finger fishing tackle. That's a tongue twister that five 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:33.119 times fast. But that's it. That's all it says. And 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.240 you're probably thinking, right, this is the dumbest, just most 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.960 hokey thing ever, maybe even on par with a penis lure. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.000 That's exactly what I'm thinking. Yes, okay, uh, And you're 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.159 thinking some momo just bought a bag of severed fingers 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.000 at the pop up Halloween store and made some novelty lures. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.240 Because no, because he did not, I say native is 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.840 in the photo these three lawyers are hanging from a 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.240 piece of cardboard, right, And if if you really inspect 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:03.760 them as I have closely, right, first, they look too real. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.480 They just they look too real. There is no out 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.720 of the package faux finger I've ever seen that looks 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.399 this realistic. So even even as to say, like the 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.480 skin looks like it's the right level of moist you 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:17.639 know what I mean, Like you know how a lot 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.080 of fake stuff looks dried out and like it's too pink, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:24.080 like perfect skin tone, like a perfect level of moisture. Okay, 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.600 And the amount of blood and tissue damage varies on 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.719 each finger. But most telling of all, if you study 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:36.080 the nails and the wrinkles and the knuckles, they're not uniform. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:40.520 They are completely unique and different. Okay. If these were 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:44.840 storeball novelty fingers, even if the paint jobs varied slightly 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.880 the finger, it's that they'd be carbon copies of each other. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:55.639 And they're not. That's the problem. Yeah, But just just 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.479 because you you traffic in subpar fake fingers doesn't mean 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.640 that they're the only options that ext this out there 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.000 for people who want them. There are professionals in this 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.920 world who make realistic fake gore for a living. I'm 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:12.919 assuming you've heard of this industry called film and television. 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.040 Maybe I read something on wiki about yeah, and so like, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.320 how do you know this person didn't make the molds 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.920 of the fingers and and I don't know, maybe molded 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.359 fingers of other family member. I don't know. I don't know, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.919 But that that is not that is not convinced evidence 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:32.240 for me. Just because they don't look like the crappy 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.400 fake fingers sold by the dozen at your annual Halloween 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.359 pop up doesn't prove that the online fishing community is 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.399 now dealing with its first serial killer. Like, I do 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.239 not buy it. I do not believe it. Yeah, and 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.080 I am aware of this film and television industry which 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.960 you speak And yes, right, there's there's no doubt they're 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.400 very talented folks that can make some damn fine severed 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.480 fingers and limbs and all that stuff. Right, Yes, but 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.960 what are the odds this dude in Wisconsin is one 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.600 of them? Okay? And furthermore, I know people like artists 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.720 and ship right, if you have the skill to create 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.040 something that perfect, Okay, a exhibit A in a court 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.840 of law. Why are you then turning them into really 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.520 shitty lures? Why would you make something so beautiful like 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.080 if if that's your gig, and turn them in the 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.320 shitty lures? Like if you have the skill to make 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.879 a realistic finger, you're probably the kind of person that 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:27.359 would also do a much better job of incorporating them 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.920 into a lure, even if it's a fake and you 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.120 knew nothing about fishing. If you have that level of talent, 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.080 you would research that. I mean, it took it took 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.919 someone thirty seconds to create these tops, not the finger, 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:39.800 but like once they had to turn into a lure 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.400 thirty seconds. All right, okay, and be exhibit B. If 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.439 you have that kind of talent, you're using it to 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.560 make fifteen bucks on the internet. None of that adds up. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.119 None of that adds up, Which is why I'm saying, 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:58.440 Wisconsin police put out the goddamn a p V right now, 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.680 dig into recent missing persons because them fingers is fresh. 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.119 I don't care what you say. Then fingers is fresh, 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.480 and we hear it, Ben, We're fully prepared to cooperate 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.760 wherever you needed. Do not implicate me in your crazy 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.120 as conspiracies. I don't want anything to do with it, 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.920 and actually know what I think. The fact that they're 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.480 coming out of Wisconsin supports my argument. I will admit 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.600 I don't know how this cheesehead came to be in 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:26.920 possession of such high quality fake severed fingers. I'm not 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.159 Maybe they didn't make themselves. Your your argument there is solid. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.840 Maybe they bought in the state sale from some Hollywood 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.600 special effects experts. I don't know. But if you live 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.080 in Wisconsin and you have a surplus of fake fingers, 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.399 what else are you going to do with them except 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:44.159 turn them into pike lureds like it's that, or just 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.480 freak everyone out at the Lions Club brought sale. You 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:52.120 don't have many options. Some valid points there, you are 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.600 still wrong, Like have you have you? Have you ever 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.879 seen the documentary series Don't with Cats? Have you ever 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.080 seen that? I haven't? No Ah. It started off with 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.639 an Internet video that could have very easily been brushed 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.840 off his fake and lead to a years long man 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:13.200 hunt that ended up involving like inner poll and ship. Anyway, Billy, 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.639 thanks thanks again for sending this one. I hope you're okay. 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.879 I hope you like this doesn't translate down to to 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:21.800