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Speaker 2: Alright looks live on a reaction Monday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely bow. He is the great z.

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Speaker 3: I've been ready to give my reaction to the Bill

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Speaker 3: Belichick interview weekend long. So I'm excited that that's that's

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Speaker 3: a reaction show. I feel like it's appropriate. That's what

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do. I'm kidding, no, no, but I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Let's do thirty seconds.

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Speaker 4: No, we have it. It's at two fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, don't worry, all right, So we got it at

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Speaker 2: two fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I was just that was me just being funny, or

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Speaker 3: I had a uh what a weekend, But what a weekend,

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Speaker 3: What a time to be alive.

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Speaker 2: I'm uh, I'm at the youth sports uh doing the

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Speaker 2: lacrosse up at Cedar Point and we're I'm on my

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Speaker 2: way up there with NBC. Sure, and I hear I'm

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Speaker 2: listening to you guys, and I hear.

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Speaker 4: A line about an Emory golf bag.

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Speaker 2: Well that's that was my favorite. For those that know,

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Speaker 2: it was probably the greatest off the cuff. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's unbelievable job out of you.

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Speaker 5: I was dying.

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Speaker 2: NBC's like, Dad, why is that funny? I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't even how do I begin? I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to begin to tell you this.

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Speaker 4: We had a long ride.

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Speaker 2: It was a long ride, yeah, but no, all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, it was like, and I text you, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: is this happening? Yep, and yep, yeah it was. And

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Speaker 2: so that's the headline of it. I think big picture

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Speaker 2: if you were to say Mason Graham, Carson Swessinger who

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Speaker 2: we mentioned on Friday Show, Quin, Shawn Judkins, Harold fan

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Speaker 2: and Junior, Dylan Gabriel, Dylan Sampson, Shader Sanders, and A

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Speaker 2: one A possible.

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Speaker 3: No impossible, in fact, so far as say, unfathomable, incomprehensible,

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Speaker 3: no chance, no chance at all.

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it is an incredible hal. I love

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Speaker 3: that there was clearly a desire to establish an attitude.

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Speaker 3: There was clearly resources thrown at the quarterback position. Which

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Speaker 3: we will talk about as we go through the program.

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Speaker 4: But this was.

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Speaker 3: When you left the combine. You just in this scenario,

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Speaker 3: you would have had two of the top five players. Yep,

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Speaker 3: I think you ended up with six of pretty much

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Speaker 3: most people's top like seventy five. Gabriel will be the

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Speaker 3: only one that on sums was out. But Mike Renner,

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Speaker 3: for example, had him is the fifty eighth best prospect

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Speaker 3: in this draft, which is a second round pick. But

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Speaker 3: you consensus smoked and you got that future first round pick.

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Speaker 4: It is It's an incredible haul.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that I would say is is if

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Speaker 3: you listed out the names of the people we drafted

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Speaker 3: and somebody who one week ago, one week ago today

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Speaker 3: was put into a cone of silence, then you said,

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Speaker 3: this is the Browns draft, placed them in the order

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Speaker 3: in which they.

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Speaker 4: Were drafted, and if you do that, we will give

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Speaker 3: That But you couldn't do it, no impossible, impossible, and

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Speaker 3: they got a future first round pick. Figure out how

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Speaker 3: that all? How did that all happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, you would have said, yeah, I mean, because Shodour

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Speaker 3: You're gonna say, if maybe Chador fell, he's got to

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Speaker 2: At the best case. But I think most people a

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Speaker 2: was it game, all right, should we do Let's do

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Speaker 2: this right now on because that's what everyone's talking about.

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Speaker 2: And obviously we've got a million things to get through here.

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Speaker 5: Have enough time. We got a whole week. We got

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Speaker 5: a whole week. Pace yourself. If we got to drawn

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Speaker 2: So this is my theory on what happened with Shador

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Speaker 2: I have a thing, and clearly the NFL yes. My

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Speaker 2: this they look at tape and that's what they look at.

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Speaker 2: And they look at tape, and on tape Shoudre Sanders

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Speaker 2: across the board was a top thirty five player on

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Speaker 3: Because detractors were early second early seventh round, those were

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Speaker 2: Some people had him top ten, couperating four overall had

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Speaker 2: looking at film, so how exclusively? So where does the

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Speaker 2: happened and should have even talked about this. J had

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Speaker 2: twentieth right. So clearly something happened in the pre draft

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Speaker 2: Tape only shows top thirty five player consensus. There wasn't

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Speaker 2: anybody who had him lower that I could find. There

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Speaker 2: was somebody at him thirty four. I think Dane ad

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Speaker 2: what led to the disbelief from Kuiper and Jeremiah and

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Speaker 4: So you and I you were singing from the same thing.

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Speaker 3: And in fact, I've talked to a great many people

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Speaker 4: You have nailed it. I talked about this on Saturday Show.

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Speaker 3: I want to say I'm pretty sure on Saturday Show,

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Speaker 3: that this was a pre draft process that perhaps part

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Speaker 3: What i've again this is not these are not my words,

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Speaker 3: wasn't taken seriously, that this process wasn't taken seriously and

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Speaker 3: and the onus is going to be on Shadoor to

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be And I think the Browns have

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Speaker 3: and I asked ab this after the pick, like, do

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Speaker 3: Once we got to that point, of course, not They

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Speaker 4: But as soon as we were on the clock.

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Speaker 3: He knew exactly what was going on. We're like, you

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Speaker 3: probably should go in there, you know, And then he did.

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Speaker 2: Biggs was in here and it was like notification at the.

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Speaker 3: Pick know that we are on aud the trade made

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Speaker 5: My whole helm had flashed up, and I was like.

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Speaker 3: He's like, SAgs is like, oh, that's weird. Meanwhile, not

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Speaker 4: So a funny story. That's a little peak pine the current.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they knew, But you know, I want people

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Speaker 3: thinking we're going to take two quarterbacks. I'll be honest

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Speaker 3: running backs because it was such a riff rich draft,

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Speaker 3: but they never thought at pick one twenty six Dylan

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Speaker 3: Samson was gonna be on the board. Yeah, not in

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Speaker 3: a billionaires and so they raced up there. But this

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Speaker 3: is an organization that loves Dylan Gabriel. We had talked

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Speaker 4: A great deal.

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Speaker 3: That was one where somewhat scoresy. I knew that we

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry and said why not. Yeah, but they would

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Speaker 4: But there's that one of the other things.

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Speaker 4: He's the only one.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people remember when we went to Eugene. Yes,

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Speaker 3: He's done it, He's competed everywhere he's gone. He's produced

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Speaker 4: I football like that's so he's just good. That talent translates.

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Speaker 3: The height is obviously the reason that he was picked

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Speaker 2: I've never seen as much tax at ermy as that.

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Speaker 2: That's the job of everybody who isn't the starter to

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Speaker 2: He's more talented than Riley Leonard. Sure, he's more talented

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Speaker 2: comes with Quinn that you're signing up to too. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying you should have been a first round pick, No,

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Speaker 2: But this is my point is that we are because

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Speaker 2: seen something like this where you're drafting millionaires who are

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Speaker 4: No, we certainly have not.

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Speaker 3: It is a it's a new thing, and it's something

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Speaker 2: These kids, these kids coming out because of the way

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Speaker 2: do you coach him? How do you hold somebody accountable?

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Speaker 2: It's so now you go to the NFL level that

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Speaker 2: now of a sudden, there's all the accountability. Yep, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: all they knew is I have all the power, me me, me, me,

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Speaker 2: is new, This hasn't been the way that it's been,

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Speaker 2: so I you know, I think that's a part of it.

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Speaker 2: I I love Dylan Gabriel at Oregon loved him. He

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Speaker 2: played as good a quarterback as you're going to see.

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Speaker 2: The first time against Ohio State out in Eugene. He

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Speaker 2: that was a downhill Avalanche said he had no chance.

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Speaker 2: But he was first team All Big Ten Quarterback. He

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Speaker 2: sure he was the first team All American quarterback as

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Speaker 2: I think every place he's been, start at UCF, then

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Speaker 2: won everywhere. Immediately, Ohio State wanted him badly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was somebody they wanted, but it was Fata Kompley

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Speaker 3: He started sixty three games, that's more than any other

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Speaker 3: quarterback in FBS history. He's thrown one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: five touchdowns, that's more than any other quarterback in FBS history.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy that everywhere he went he

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Speaker 4: That's back in twenty nineteen. This guys started.

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Speaker 3: Sixty three games sixteen years. That's the equivalent basically almost

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Speaker 3: game season. Last year, career high seventy three percent completions,

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Speaker 3: thirty eight hundred and fifty seven yards, thirty touchdown, six picks.

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Speaker 4: He's done all of that.

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Speaker 3: The Browns, by the way, in one of the more

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Speaker 3: unique facts I think I've ever seen in the draft,

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Speaker 3: the Browns have the Big ten Offensive Player of the year,

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Speaker 3: the SEC Offensive Player of the year, the MAC Offensive

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Speaker 3: of the Year's pretty good in one draft.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of production, Buddy.

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Speaker 3: And there's one thing that also is interesting about this

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Speaker 3: five stars, five stars, five stars. Swessinger our second round pick,

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Speaker 3: who's a cool kid, very smart kid, very talented, and

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Speaker 4: That's something talked about.

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Speaker 5: How good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've gotten at it, and now two of the

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Speaker 3: and there may be others were no star recruits.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting how Fannin got missed because he was at McKinley. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to ask him about that because I you know that

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Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense for like you're gonna be seeing

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Speaker 2: The swuestionser one is that one. I think you can

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Speaker 4: In terms of in the country, Yes, where he grew up? California?

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Speaker 3: Moore Park or Oaks. Christian was a high school teammate

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Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Junior, is Zax Charbonnet all were at his

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Speaker 2: So he's at a football factory.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. You read Gibbs mock draft one point zero third rounder.

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Speaker 3: That's like a little lower let's hope that it goes

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Speaker 4: You nailed truth.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Like and I was talking with Mason Graham.

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Speaker 3: He's from Mission Viejo, California, went to Servit Servite Serviet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now on the Swessenger. Yeah, so when I see

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Speaker 3: To conclusion, Matt and jumped to a conclusion. I will

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Speaker 3: So sweasisher can do it all. Yeah, but he's two

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Speaker 3: he's a three down linebacker. He can cover, he can

436
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: do all of those things. In his year at UCLA

437
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 3: only a one year starter. Was a special teams monster.

438
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly's staff they leave, the new staff comes in

439
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 3: this year, they say they all right, we're giving you

440
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 3: a shot. By the way, there were a lot of

441
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 3: teams that would have taken him in the first round

442
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 3: had their person not be there. And in fact, the

443
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 3: reason he went thirty three was there was a suspicion

444
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: that somebody was going.

445
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 4: To take him thirty four to thirty five.

446
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

447
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 3: One hundred and thirty six tackles, eight and a half

448
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: tackles for lost, four sacks, a force fumble, three passes defense,

449
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 3: two picks, can First Team All American, First Team All

450
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 3: Big Ten, led the Big Ten in tackles, was a

451
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: team captain, and he had on the season ninety solo tackles,

452
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: which is an FBS best. His seven and a half

453
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 3: solo tackles per game or the most in the FBS

454
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty. He played constantly, was the mic linebacker,

455
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: played everywhere. He can blitz, he can cover, he can

456
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: do and it guy was a walk on, a No

457
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: Star recruit walk on and is now the thirty f

458
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: three picking the draft. And let me tell you something.

459
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: We love Jason Tarvar over the moon. He is over

460
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: the moon.

461
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: So the hope is.

462
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: When you saw Tarv on that pick in the background,

463
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: like getting.

464
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 4: The phone, Oh my goodness, it was like so.

465
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Because we we know him, right, So I'm watching the

466
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: draft and I see him. I see our war room

467
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: and I see that they're like trying to figure out

468
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: who the pick is and at that point they weren't

469
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: being tipped. So I see the phone go to Tarv

470
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, swetternger, that's where that is and bouncing off.

471
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: The wall coming.

472
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 3: So just that made I had I had seen Tarv

473
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: and he was hopeful, but just didn't think it was

474
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: going to happen. And then what it did, he was

475
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: very very happy.

476
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: The two running backs listen, we did we did running

477
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: back comparisons comps last week. Quinch On to me is

478
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: a lot of Kareem Hunt in him, and I'm talking

479
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: about when we first got Kareem Hunt. He's a Islan runner.

480
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: He is a one cut runner. He has a nose

481
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: for the end zone. He just finds it. He just does.

482
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: He is a fall forward guy. He's not quite the

483
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: home run hitter that Trevion was, but he's bigger, he's

484
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: more durable, and what he learned this year at Ohio

485
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 2: State I think was invaluable in terms of an ability

486
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: to play the full complement of what is required to

487
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: the running back position. He got better as a pass blocker. Bigley.

488
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: He was somebody at Old Miss who they didn't use

489
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: in the pass game much, but they used him at

490
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: Ohio State in the pass game, and when they used him,

491
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: he was very effective. He is a bellcow back. I

492
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: love that pick of Quinchown Judkins. I know we talked

493
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: about it on Friday, but then to add Samson to it,

494
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: who did not play in the He was injured and

495
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: banged up in the Ohio State game and so he

496
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: was not himself and that was a big I mean,

497
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any beating Ohio State that

498
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: day anyway, but he didn't really play in that game.

499
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: He started and tried and then couldn't. This is the

500
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: SEC's rushing champion.

501
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 4: At Offensive Player of the Year.

502
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in the those two backs. Man, I love

503
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: this guy.

504
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: Loved that.

505
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: For his career at Tennessee, averaged six yards of carry

506
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: and scored thirty five touchdowns rushing in thirty five games

507
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: with only fourteen starts. His last year he starts thirteen games.

508
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: He rushes for fifteen hundred yards five point eight to

509
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: carry and twenty two touchdowns. He is a home run

510
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: hitterer War number six there because he models a game

511
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: after Alvin Kamara.

512
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: He is.

513
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: This is thunder and lightning. It's basically Judkins and Travion. Yeah,

514
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: the Browns were stunned that he was on the board

515
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: at that point, absolutely floored. Dane had him, I think

516
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 3: in the number seventy four overall on his top one fifty.

517
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh.

518
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: Had the board gone different and the Browns came out

519
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: of this draft with only Dylan Sampson, yeah, they would

520
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: have been thrilled.

521
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: Right, they get him both.

522
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 3: And here's the thing for a team that is got

523
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 3: soudery cap issues, not issues, but little bit issues. You

524
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: have salary cap considerations due to Deshaun Watson's contract and

525
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: all the restructuring that's happened at least in twenty twenty five,

526
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and you'll still probably feel it, I

527
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: think a little bit in twenty twenty seven. To have

528
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: a thunder and lightning running back duo for twenty five,

529
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: twenty six, twenty seven and twenty eight on rookie deals

530
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: is massive, massive, And you think about this organization, You

531
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: think about Buyner and Mack, you think about Chubb and Hunt.

532
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: You know, we have been very good with these kind

533
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: of tantems, and this is I think an excellent tandem.

534
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: Quin Judkins think of him as the bell cow. And

535
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: then you think now of Samson. Has that change Bason,

536
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: by the way, drop Ford home run hitter in his

537
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: own right average five point four yards to carry in

538
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: the National Football League last year five point four. Yeah,

539
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: because he hits big runs. So we're gonna have the hammer.

540
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: And now we've got two guys who can hit monster

541
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: runs on you.

542
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: You know.

543
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: I think fordkl will probably start as that third back

544
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: just because of pass pro. He's more advanced than that,

545
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: and he's been a very good pass catcher.

546
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 4: For the cland Browns.

547
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: But they're gonna work on that with Samson and Judkins.

548
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I think of these two, I think.

549
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 4: The future is very bright.

550
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: By the way, Samson is twenty twenty yeah kid, just

551
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: like Harold Fannon twenty yeah.

552
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 4: Judkins only twenty one.

553
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: But that was nice for me.

554
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: And think about your identity, right, So you got tougher

555
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: on defense with Mason Graham and Sweesssinger. Two of your

556
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: first three picks a defensive tackle and an off ball linebacker.

557
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: Your first two picks. Nobody would have seen that coming.

558
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: A running back is your third. But they think Mason

559
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: Graham's gonna be a much better pass rusher in the

560
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 3: National Football League than he was in college due to

561
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 3: what the scheme mass him do at Michigan, which was

562
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: more Reid react catch. Now he's going They love Sweesssinger,

563
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: but they established an ad to. We talked about twelve personnel,

564
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: how to get a tight end in this draft. Harold

565
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: Fannon Brown's absolutely loved him.

566
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: One of my favorite moments other than the I'd like

567
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: to have it back on the Emery Golf was your

568
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: guys's anticipation of Gibbey's reaction to fannin us. So I

569
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: when I started to, you know, I quickly put the

570
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: stream up because I wanted to see what was happening,

571
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: and the way it works, the streams a little bit

572
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: behind everything else. So I was able to catch as

573
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: soon as I started to see it on social. I'm like,

574
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: I gotta get Gibby on this.

575
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 3: And so your guys, Gibbe, what I want to know

576
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: about you. What I want to know about you, Gibbey

577
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: is did you get to see did you get to

578
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: talk to him on Saturday?

579
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: Because he never ended up coming up here.

580
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Well, Gibb wore his bgsu pinned, Yeah, he's ready.

581
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 4: You didn't get talked to him?

582
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 5: No, I mean you have to understand, like unfortunately everything

583
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: that went down, fortunately you know, and unfortunately timing like

584
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: all three of our three of our four picks from

585
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 5: Friday night. Uh, Gabriel wasn't here. It's a lot he's

586
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: not He's not gonna make it by two o'clock. Yeah,

587
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: you get here by I mean Sunday. Pretty impressive job

588
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 5: to get the people that they did get. Yeah, Like

589
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 5: Swassenger was on a flight like all night long and

590
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 5: landed at like five thirty in the morning. Dev is

591
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: a miracle worker. Yeah, but all three of those guys

592
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: were literally at the podium when the helmet flipped. Yeah,

593
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: like you're it's a rough situation, like Carson comes in

594
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 5: for a one on one with us, Yeah, I mean

595
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 5: we're thirty seconds into us having shador I was like,

596
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 5: I need you to wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah, we're

597
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 5: gonna get you. We're gonna get to you.

598
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

599
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 5: But it was just with with everything going on at

600
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: that point, you know. Unfortunately, it took away maybe a

601
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: little bit from those guys and their moment. But we'll

602
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 5: we'll have plenty of them, especially coming up in a

603
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 5: couple of weeks at rookie Mini Camp. So but yeah,

604
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: I was over the moon. I started getting messages from people.

605
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: That September It's so awesome that he's here. And let

606
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: me tell you something, the Browns absolutely loved him.

607
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were tight.

608
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: Ends that went before Harold fannin that the Browns were

609
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: happy to see them go because they wanted Harold Fannon

610
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: and they got them.

611
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Two things that if we would have said on Thursday,

612
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: if we were to say we want would not draft

613
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: a wide receiver or an offensive tackle, I would have

614
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: said no chance. I would have said, no chance, you're

615
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: going to draft both of those things. Now loyal to

616
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: the board and Aby's been big best player available, best

617
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: player of out they felt like there was value. I

618
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: get it, but especially at wide receiver now with Elijah

619
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Moore with and we'll get to this in a second.

620
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: As he signed, I know now he's visiting, so I

621
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: could see him back here still.

622
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now, that's a pretty thin room.

623
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: I'd just look at two things. Number one, obviously Elijah

624
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 3: Moore familiarity here. Another thing I would look at is

625
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: the Packers. Brown's really, like Christian Watson a few years ago,

626
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: has not been able to stay healthy, but in terms

627
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: of filling a vertical need, would do that. They've got

628
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: now a thousand wide receiver. Yeah, they've got a thousand

629
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: wide receivers on the roster.

630
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: Now let me see I have there. Let's see. I'll

631
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: pull up their receiver Dotter Dontavian Wicks.

632
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: Is a guy that from them that I would be

633
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: very interested in as well. I think that that is

634
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: Andrew Berry thus far has been better at trading for

635
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: wide receivers.

636
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: I makes been elite pretty good at trading.

637
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: For wide receivers. So they drafted this year. The Packers

638
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: drafted Matthew Golden in the first round. They drafted Saveon

639
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: Williams in the third round. And in addition to that,

640
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: they've got Romeo Dubbs, Jaden Reed, Dontavian Wicks, Christian Watson,

641
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: Mkole Hardman. They just signs, so they've got somebody is

642
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: too much. They've got too much, so that would be it.

643
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: The Browns really like Christian Watson now injured, that's an issue.

644
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: Dontavian Wicks fifth rounder and twenty three. That guy can fly.

645
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: They're a team that I would watch as a potential

646
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: trade partner. Not scores, just yeah, connecting dots that seem

647
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: to make sense. They're They're a team that I certainly

648
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: would be I would pay attention to and think could

649
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: would make.

650
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: A lot of sense. I don't think we're done in

651
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: the wide receive room, I will say.

652
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: I asked Andrew Berry satur Day. I said, now that

653
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: the draft is over, you know, will you be adding now?

654
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: I know you did undrafted free agents, but also free agents,

655
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Speaker 3: and I mentioned offensive line and wide receiver, and what

656
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: he said was they feel good about where they are

657
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: with the offensive line right now. Offensive line said, we

658
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: we did address that in the in the off season,

659
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Speaker 3: and what he meant by that is obviously the signing

660
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Speaker 3: of Cornelius Lucas, the signing of Tevin Jenkins as as

661
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: undrafted free agents. So you've got Dwan Buttonio, Posik, Teler, Conklin, Lucas, Zinter, Whippler, Jenkins.

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Speaker 4: I mean, those guys are healthy. Those guys are healthy.

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Speaker 4: That's nine. They like Javian Cohen as well.

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Speaker 3: You know you're not keeping much more than that, So

665
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Speaker 3: I think they feel pretty good about that receiver, though

666
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Speaker 3: I think you could you could use some. You know,

667
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: David Bell's gonna be back from his injury, Tillman's coming

668
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: off an injury. That to me, Elijah Moore makes a

669
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: lot of sense cut over sixty balls last year or

670
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: making a trade for a guy with a little speed.

671
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: But remember, I think.

672
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna play a lot more twelve personnel than we

673
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: did a year ago. And so that's where the pick

674
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: of Harold Fannin becomes so massive, because now you're gonna

675
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Speaker 3: get Harold Fannin in there. And not only are you

676
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: gonna get Harold Fannin in there, you are going to

677
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: Harold Fannon gives you ability like chief, you can flex

678
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: him and come out in twelve personnel. But he plays

679
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: the role as slot receiver fans very good that he can.

680
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Speaker 3: Last year's kind of equal parts inline slot and out

681
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: wide as a wide receiver. So there's a lot of

682
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: things you can do try to dictate coverage and also

683
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: then get tells for your quarterback. All right, if we

684
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: start him off inline, then we motioned him outside and

685
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: a corner stays there. Are they in zone or do

686
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: they match this whoever was over a match? Do they

687
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: go back out? Now you know they're in man. So

688
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: I think there are gonna be a lot of tells

689
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Speaker 3: that you're gonna be able to get from that twelve

690
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Speaker 3: personnel that we really weren't able to do quite as

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Speaker 3: much last year.

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Speaker 2: a little quarterback talk here, Mike. Well, first let's do

712
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: this Jordan Schultz, Browns wide receiver Elijah Moore, former brownside

713
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Speaker 2: receiver for right now, Elijah Moore is visiting Buffalo today,

714
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Speaker 2: So that would seem to make all the sense of

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Speaker 2: the world to come back. And you and I talk

716
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: about even Jed Will's at tackle if you wanted to.

717
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: He's unsigned at the moment, so I don't think that

718
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Speaker 2: one's that one might not be happening. Potentially Elijah could

719
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Speaker 2: come back, so so who knows, but he did visit

720
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Speaker 2: with Buffalo today. All right, we know that Deshaun Watson

721
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: had a second achilles surgery in December. So we're not doctors.

722
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Speaker 2: We didn't stay at a holiday and express, but just

723
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: at a year. Okay. So the soonest he is going

724
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Speaker 2: to play is January of twenty seven. That's you can't

725
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: there's no way to get around an achilles. So this

726
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: was two achilles terry at one of the season. In

727
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: the second one happened in December. So Deshaun Watson is

728
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: on the roster, but he will not be part of

729
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Speaker 2: the be in the mix, just physically, just not possible.

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Speaker 5: All right.

731
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Speaker 2: So what you have now, though, my friend, is four

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in this room. This offseason, we signed Joe Flacco

733
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Speaker 2: and Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett first, then Joe Flacco.

734
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: Traded for Joe Flackham, sorry, I mean traded for Kenny.

735
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 2: Traded for Picket, signed flak good job, thank you. Drafted

736
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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel in the third round, drafted Shoutar of Sanders

737
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: in the fifth. So you have four quarterbacks in the room.

738
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Speaker 3: How about this, by the way you use, you have

739
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: three bites at the apple that they are excited about.

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00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: You traded a fifth for Kenny Pickett and a future fifth,

741
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: but you got a fifth back in the pre draft

742
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: trade with Houston, which by the way, was used as

743
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: part of the deal to go.

744
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: Get Shoudoor Sanders.

745
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: So you've got a fifth and a sixth in Shoudore

746
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Speaker 3: Sanders and a third in Dylan Gabriel. And you have

747
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Speaker 3: a guy who was drafted in the first round, a

748
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: guy that many people thought a first round talent, and

749
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Speaker 3: then the guy that they liked as much as anybody

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League in Dylan Gabriel. And they

751
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: have invested fifth, fifth, and sixth and third. So there's

752
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: really no risk to any of this. And they're in

753
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: a position now if it doesn't work out. They're in

754
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: a position now next year with the future first to

755
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: maybe not get.

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Speaker 4: The one if there's a clear one.

757
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: But they're in position to get a quarterback hopefully that

758
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: they like, maybe the next next year's class.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, nobody knows.

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00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: Nobody knows anything, man.

761
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 3: Because Quinn Ewers and Carson Beck were in the top

762
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: five sure prior.

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00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: Too was Quinn him, I mean it was it was

764
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: Beck should here, and then a lot of people like

765
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Speaker 2: Quinn in the top ten pick.

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00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: And cam Ward I don't remember a year ago being

767
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: talked about, just like Jaden Daniels the year before he

768
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: was the number two pick was not talked about. So

769
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: you don't know, but you have the flexibility to do

770
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: to do something. You also have an opportunity. Now, let's

771
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: say there's a world in which Schaudor lights it up,

772
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Speaker 3: or Gabriel lights it up, or Kenny Pickett lights it up,

773
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Speaker 3: and you feel good about Shadoor and Gabriel's potential where

774
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: you could have first round pick next or you can

775
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: go receiver, tackle, receiver, edge receiver. You could get too

776
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: high leverage positions to build out this team as well.

777
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: I'll tell you it is. The Browns are set up

778
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: in a very very good spot. Now this room becomes

779
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: interesting because I think, on one hand.

780
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Speaker 2: It's.

781
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: You have a very good roster. You cannot solve everything

782
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: in one offseason. Yeah, Quarterback remains the biggest, you know,

783
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: question mark for you. And probably you could say, like

784
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 3: tackle can our boyd want can you play sixteen games

785
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: or seventeen games? And if he does, pahenomenal, We would

786
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: love that.

787
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 4: But you've got.

788
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: Now rookie, rookie, former first round pick in his fourth

789
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: season and then you have Joe Flacco, who in his forties.

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: My guess is you want somebody from the first three

791
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: group to just seize this thing.

792
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the reality is you want to.

793
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: I think I think it's possible you could see all

794
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: three of these guys at some point this year if

795
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: they show that they are worthy of getting that opportunity,

796
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: because you need answers going into twenty six. Now, could

797
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: the Browns make a run at the playoffs this year?

798
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: Of course, with this defense you add to these running backs,

799
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to get back to basics. Are

800
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: we gonna score a ton of points? I don't think

801
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 3: maybe right now? But who knows. Maybe we do make

802
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: some trades, maybe we're not done at wide receiver, and

803
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: then all.

804
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: Say whoa, whoa, whoa.

805
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a team that I think is

806
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: built to compete now, but is also kind of looking

807
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: at the future a little bit, and I think.

808
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting.

809
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: I could see a scenario which I was the goodness,

810
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: where we carry four quarterbacks.

811
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think so in the beginning of the season,

812
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: I think so. Absolutely So.

813
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Speaker 3: Let's say we did four quarterbacks, you did three running backs,

814
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Speaker 3: tight ends, you're probably going to be three, would be

815
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Speaker 3: my guess. So that's ten, and then line we'll call

816
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Speaker 3: it nine, So that's nineteen. So you could still have

817
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: six receivers and be a twenty five on offense. I

818
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: don't even know if we would carry six. I think

819
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: we carry five receivers. You know, right now you would

820
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: have what Judy Tillman Thrash thrash, And I think that's

821
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Speaker 3: kind of open. I think there's room for one more edition,

822
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: but I'm it's escaping right now. DeAndre Carter he's gonna

823
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: make it because he's going to be your return specialists.

824
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Speaker 4: Right, So that's three.

825
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: And then you have you know, David Bell, Jamari Thrash,

826
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Mike Woods. There clearly can be an upgrade in here.

827
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Speaker 3: I don't think that that's that's not speaking out of turn.

828
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: There can be an upgrade in there. But let's say

829
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Speaker 3: you had five. I mean, you totally have room to

830
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 3: carry four quarterbacks. Now you're going to be defense heavy.

831
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: My goals you probably want to be, you know, twenty

832
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 3: four twenty or even twenty three twenty seven because right now,

833
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: like if you look at if you were to look

834
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Speaker 3: ord is ballparking it.

835
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: But d NS.

836
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: You've got Miles Isah McGuire, Alex Wright, Joe Tryon, Schweinka,

837
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: You've got Obo Obo. You've got Aquara who you just signed.

838
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: You love to play. You got out of Cam Thomas

839
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 3: last year. You got Ellison Smith who played a little

840
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: bit forty last year. You know, so you're I think

841
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: you're you could be I mean, five edges feels like

842
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: a lot, but you could be five six easy, So

843
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,479
Speaker 3: it's call it five there. Defensive tackle, now you've got

844
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Speaker 3: Mason Graham, Malik Collins, Mike Hall, Shelby Harris, Juwan Briggs.

845
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: You could be five there, so that would be ten.

846
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: Linebacker Swessinger, Devin Bush, Diabat, Jordan Hicks, j Okay Diabat.

847
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: That's five there.

848
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: Quickly, right, and then you still have Winston Reid and

849
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: Bookie Watson, so you could be we'll call us five six.

850
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: And then corners you've got your big three, Denzel m

851
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: j Emerson, Greg Newsom. You've got Cam Mitchell as four.

852
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: Tony Brown's back, so I would you know Toby Brown.

853
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: I think it's got a good They picked up a

854
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: Newsum last year in the middle of the year. They

855
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: like him, so call it Toby Brand that could be six,

856
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 3: and then safety. Right now, you've got Delpit, you've got Hickman.

857
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: I think you need to add somebody, any one. They're

858
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: in the safety, a veteran safety. And then they got

859
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: Chris Edmunds who they like. But so if you were

860
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: five five, six five, let's go five five, fifteen and eleven,

861
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: that's twenty six on the side five five, six, six

862
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: six five would be twenty seven.

863
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: So it's it's doable. It's doable.

864
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. You and I, before we knew

865
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: how this was gonna shake out, we said, should do

866
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: it too, and pick another one.

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Speaker 4: I did say that.

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00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: We said it a lot. Take another one in the

869
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: fifth round, Take one in the fourth like you have

870
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: to take swings at this position until you hit. Like

871
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: that's it. And we have three three bites at the

872
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: apple now of quarterbacks twenty six or younger who can

873
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: potentially be the long term solution. Well like if you

874
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: go so figure out. To me, yes, Chase the postseason,

875
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: all that stuff, But to me, what matters most in

876
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five is figuring out if one of these

877
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: three can be the guy.

878
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: My original if you got to go back to my

879
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: original original was the quarterback room was going to be

880
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Shadora cam Ward, like a Daniel Jones or like cast

881
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: off first round or the equivalent, which, by the way,

882
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: guess what that is Kenny Pickett.

883
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: And then it was Howard McCord. Gabriel.

884
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: I may have said, Quin, you weres like if we're

885
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: going back to January, but Howard.

886
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Mccordya, it was one of those guys in the fourth round.

887
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: And we have that now we have but also we

888
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: have Flacco because I think as they got closer to

889
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: the draft, they're thinking, was my guess, this is not

890
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: these are not scores, this is pure reckless speculation.

891
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 4: But that Flacco.

892
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: If you remember, if Flacco said interestingly enough, like a

893
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: week before it happened, he would have said, there's no

894
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: way he was going to be a Brown yea.

895
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: So my guess is that.

896
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: As everything unfolded with Shador, he went from being somebody

897
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: that was probably we were very interested in too, maybe

898
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: not as interested in.

899
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 5: Right.

900
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 3: So now let's get Flacoh, we're gonna get Dalan Gabriel.

901
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna have picket Flacco and Gabriel. And then what

902
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: happened was so beyond anybody's possible expectation that Oh fine,

903
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: we're taking that gamble. We know what's on tape, we

904
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 3: know how talented he is, and now you have four.

905
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: I really think that's what happened.

906
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah, so that'll be the manager.

907
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: Now the good news, you've got Stefanski, You've got you've

908
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: got support in Tommy Reese, who's handled young quarterbacks expertly

909
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame and at Alabama.

910
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 5: Yep.

911
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: And now he's gonna have his hands all over that

912
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 2: room too. So yeah, this is this is gonna be fun,

913
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: be fun camp. It's gonna be a fun rookie mini

914
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: camp when that kicks.

915
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 5: Off preseason of training camp. Got a little more interested.

916
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: Sure did, Yeah, it sure did. All right. So there's

917
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: kind of the the answers on all of that coming

918
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: up next. We will go around the league, obviously, there

919
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: is a lot to that. We will do that coming

920
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: up nextalst to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESP

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Speaker 2: Official gutterard of your Cleveland Browns. Guess what what y'all like?

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: The Draft? Twenty twenty five NFL Draft supplied the second

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Speaker 2: most watched Day one on record, thirteen point six million

933
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Speaker 2: was the average viewers, up eleven percent from twenty twenty four.

934
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Speaker 2: The second most watched Day two on record seven point

935
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Speaker 2: three million, up forty percent.

936
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Speaker 4: Wow.

937
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: College football has never been more popular, and the NFL

938
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 2: has never been more popular. They are the two rocket

939
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: ships when it comes to what you care about the

940
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: collective view, and that's how it happens. I mean, you know,

941
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: the NFL was brilliant to turn this into a three

942
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: day event, Absolutely brilliant. Instead of wasting it all on Saturday,

943
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 2: to put it in primetime, It's delivered in the biggest

944
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: way possible. These are huge numbers. These are bigger than

945
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: big time college football games. These are bigger than obviously

946
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: all the other sports is which a wide margin.

947
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 3: It's not going to change, although Rogers saying he wants

948
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: to drop the first round of seven minutes a pick

949
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: and a team gets one. Throughout the draft, you get

950
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: if your time expires, you get one two minute grace

951
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: period that you can only use.

952
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: Once, so seven instead of fifteen and then one two

953
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: minute give us a two.

954
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: Weren't they down to ten though this year in the

955
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: first round?

956
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: No, it was fifteen, was it? Yeah?

957
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: No, it was ten, then it was ten.

958
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there were ten.

959
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it was fifteen because I remember, we

960
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: are to remember if it was fifteen or ten, and

961
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: I thought it was fifteen, but I could be wrong. Yeah,

962
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: I don't know either way. Going down to seven would help. Yeah,

963
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: you know, I think that helps. It helps. You're making

964
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: a television show. That's what all this is, guys.

965
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 5: It's all just teleg I mean it was. You've got

966
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: the ESPN crew, you have the NFL Network crew, and

967
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 5: then you have the Game Day crew. You have McAfee

968
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 5: doing a pod with Schregger.

969
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: He has ten minutes, yeah, ten, I.

970
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 5: Mean it was. It was crazy.

971
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's such a good I mean, you had

972
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: first time i've ever seen this, Like the on three

973
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: guys were live broadcasting from it, like Urban and his

974
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: podcast went out there and did it, like yeah.

975
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 5: They did it from They had a whole setup.

976
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like they were. Yeah, it was everywhere and

977
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: it was the ratings behemoth, you know, of the weekend.

978
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: And I think it'll just get bigger and bigger because

979
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: you're just gonna have next year.

980
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 5: It'll take a step back during Pukerville.

981
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: Ah, seems like green Bay did okay with it seemed good.

982
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so they did well.

983
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 3: But the cell towers in Green Bay are set up

984
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: for one hundred and twenty thousand people. So like we

985
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: couldn't talk to Mason Graham until they had did they

986
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: take him in one of the houses Gibbe because he

987
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: had we had to get him on a landline.

988
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: I'm not sure where they ended up finding a phone

989
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 5: that worked, but it was Yeah, Thursday night was a

990
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 5: real problem, and I'm not sure how easy it is

991
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: for all those people to fly out or fly in.

992
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: It's also true, Yeah, I mean you're flying in all place.

993
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: You're not flying direct from anywhere.

994
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: No how far is it from Milwaukee gen two hours? Oh,

995
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: so it's not like it's close, it's not an hour,

996
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: it's not a suburb.

997
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 5: No, and I made that drive. Let me look real quick.

998
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of people were still flying into Appleton,

999
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 5: which is where when we first started doing this thirteen

1000
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 5: years ago. That's the Green Bay Airport. The runways weren't

1001
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 5: long enough to fly into Green Day. We had to

1002
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 5: fly into Appleton's.

1003
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: So wild there's a team there. Well, you're looking up

1004
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: that distance. Big news in the National Football League today

1005
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: the Commanders are headed back to DC. The team agreed

1006
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 2: to a deal with the District of Columbia to build

1007
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: a stadium at the RFK site, so where the team

1008
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: played from nineteen sixty one to nineteen ninety six. A

1009
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: formal announcement it was made today. They actually put imaging up.

1010
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: It looks awesome, so it's done.

1011
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: That it's happening.

1012
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 3: Somebody was like Scheffer made it, telling he was done,

1013
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: and then somebody said the this is like their pitch

1014
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 3: to bring it back there.

1015
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they announced it with the city, they

1016
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: had the money, they had the eight to seventies coming

1017
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: from the city.

1018
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: I think it's three and it's on the former rf.

1019
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Former RFK site, which is I mean, if you're our age,

1020
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: like you can hear some are all Madden, and you

1021
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: can hear RFK, and you can hear the Hogs and

1022
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 2: the Redskins and Hail to the Redskins and all that stuff,

1023
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: so that it's just a home run in that to

1024
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: bring them inside the Beltway and the stadium. Quite honestly,

1025
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: you see the influence that so far in Minnesota has

1026
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: had because you've seen our images of what our stadium

1027
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: is going to look like, and now you see these

1028
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: ones from Washington and it's a glass ceiling, it's glass

1029
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: on the end.

1030
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: Yep.

1031
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: It's that you know, to be Yeah, that's that look

1032
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: of like outside but not control the elements, ready made

1033
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowl sites and that type of stuff. So it

1034
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: looks like they're going to get that done.

1035
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: There hour and forty five from the.

1036
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: Man that's right on the edge, that'd be like, I

1037
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: mean here, it'd be flying into Columbus or Pittsburgh.

1038
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: Yep. You know.

1039
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: So that's that's a hall certainly to get that done.

1040
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: A couple other signings, Hunter Renfro coming out of retirement

1041
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: to sign with the Carolina Panthers, the Steelers releasing defensive

1042
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: tackle montrevious Adams. They're releasing twenty twenty four to six

1043
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 2: round pick Ryan Watts due to a neck injury as well,

1044
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: and then ammagniell Agba signning a one year deal worth

1045
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: five million in Jacksonville. So those are some of the

1046
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: things around the league. We'll do some winners and losers

1047
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: of the draft. We've got Z with Mason Graham. It's

1048
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: all coming up in the second hour of the program.

1049
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Bete,

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Speaker 2: All Right, Welcome back kid to Clevel the Browns Zalies

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1056
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Speaker 2: And now let's have a discussion with our first round pick,

1057
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: Mason Graham. Here is Z with the big d tackle.

1058
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: What a pleasure it is to be joined by the

1059
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: fifth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, defensive tackle,

1060
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: Mason Graham. When you hear that you are the fifth pick,

1061
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: top five pick in an NFL draft. Is that something

1062
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: go back to that when you're a kid. When was

1063
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 3: that something that even became like a pipe dream for you?

1064
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah? Probably?

1065
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 6: You know, when I know I wanted to, you know,

1066
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 6: excel at the next level, was probably six or seventh

1067
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 6: grade when I know I wanted to take it super

1068
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 6: serious and this is what I wanted to do. So

1069
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 6: this is kind of just a dream come true.

1070
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: When you were in six or seventh grade when you

1071
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 3: were thinking about that, were you thinking that you're gonna

1072
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: be a running back drafted in.

1073
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: The top five in the NFL? They used to handle

1074
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 4: the ball a little bit in your early days.

1075
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I used to handle the ball, but I thought

1076
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 6: I was more of a linebacker back. Okay, thought I

1077
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 6: was going to be a linebacker. Then you know, I

1078
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 6: started to progress, my body transformed and then put my

1079
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 6: hand under and then here I am.

1080
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: What was it like? What was just take you through yesterday?

1081
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 3: Just the whole the nerves of it. Because you you

1082
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 3: can see the mock drafts, you can see all the rankings,

1083
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: Like you knew there was a good chance you were

1084
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: going early in this draft, But what are kind of

1085
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 3: the nerves like until you actually know yeah.

1086
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean I was like more anxious than nervous.

1087
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 6: You know, for sure wherever I was going to be

1088
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 6: bussed to go, that was God's plan. So I mean,

1089
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 6: obviously it's Cleveland. So I'm really happy to be here,

1090
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 6: excited to get to work. But yeah, just a crazy

1091
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 6: twenty four hours. Everything you know you dreamed of, you know,

1092
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 6: all the dreams coming true. It's kind of it happens fast,

1093
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: but you know it's hard to take in, you know,

1094
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 6: all at once.

1095
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: When did you know it was going to be Cleveland.

1096
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 6: I had a good feeling, you know, I heard some

1097
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 6: stuff going around at the you know, Jacksonville. I wanted

1098
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 6: to trade up and you know, get Travis. So I

1099
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 6: didn't know, you know, what was going to happen. But

1100
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 6: you know I knew, you know what what happened on

1101
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 6: my visit. I thought I had a good visit, you know,

1102
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 6: I had a good relationship, and I feel like I

1103
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 6: can just figure in this scheme. And then ultimately I

1104
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 6: got the call and you know, just super excited.

1105
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: Is it wild to know what we know now, which

1106
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: I'm guessing you were privy to and if you you

1107
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't even tell us anyway, but that this was kind

1108
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: of in place for a couple of weeks.

1109
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I I didn't know, but I'm just thankful.

1110
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes.

1111
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 6: You know, I didn't know anything, you know, I just

1112
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 6: know that my phone rang and I saw that Cleveland

1113
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 6: area code, and no, I'm blessed to be here.

1114
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: So today you're walking around, You've got your parents and

1115
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: your grandma. What's it like to be able to share

1116
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: this with them? Because not only is this a huge

1117
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: thing from a football standpoint, this is a huge thing

1118
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: for the grand family. I mean, this is a transformative

1119
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: financial moment in your family's history. This will affect future

1120
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: generations of Graham's forever. What's kind of that been like

1121
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: to be with your family and enjoy all that.

1122
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just grateful that I was able to bring

1123
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 6: them along, you know, my journey. They've been you know,

1124
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 6: been able. You know, I've been blessed that they've been

1125
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 6: able to sacrifice a lot for me to get where

1126
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 6: I'm at. You know, even you know, just like them

1127
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 6: coming to games, even just coming to a game. You know,

1128
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 6: they live in Hawaii now, so it's kind of a

1129
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 6: far track to the Midwest. But you know, they make

1130
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 6: it happen. You know, even though it's if it's just

1131
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 6: seeing me for for like thirty minutes after a game.

1132
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 6: You know, they take that ten hour flight and you know,

1133
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 6: just want to see me play, and so it just

1134
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: you know, it's a full circle moment, just making them proud,

1135
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 6: you know, giving back to them, you know what they

1136
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 6: gave me.

1137
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you something here and be in Cleveland. It'll

1138
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 3: be nice to be able to say, oh, I'm gonna

1139
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: go to Hawaii in the offseason. That'll be that'll be

1140
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: something that your your teammates will be very envious of.

1141
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, I'll be out there.

1142
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 4: There's no doubt.

1143
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: How wild is it that when you think about this draft,

1144
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: you and then McMillan, your high school teammate, top eight

1145
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 3: players in this draft.

1146
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, that's just you know, everything, like I said,

1147
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 6: coming full circle. We did our four years of high

1148
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 6: school together. I knew him, you know, ever since he

1149
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 6: was in eighth grade. So we did our four years

1150
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 6: of high school and then three years of college. So

1151
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 6: we came out the same year and you know, it

1152
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 6: was just cool being able even during the draft process

1153
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 6: and you know combined process. You know, yeah, we trained

1154
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 6: together in Arizona and I trained with a lot of

1155
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 6: my teammates to me, Will Johnson, Coleston Lovelin, and then

1156
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 6: t mac was there too. You know, it was kind

1157
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: of cool just seeing you know, everyone kind of bond

1158
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 6: together and you know, just really guys that I'm gonna

1159
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 6: be close friends with for a long time.

1160
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 3: How did you end up going to Michigan? Because your

1161
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: teammates all went to the University of Arizona. My uncle

1162
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: may he rest in peace, the Great Zaga was a

1163
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: professor at the Universe Arizona in Tucson, so bare down

1164
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: that is close near and dear to my heart. So

1165
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 3: how did you end up going to Michigan?

1166
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, my story was kind of different.

1167
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 6: You know a lot of people don't think of West

1168
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 6: Coast kids coming in the Midwest to come play football.

1169
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 6: But you know, I kind of hat of slow recruitment

1170
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 6: and I picked up my senior year, so you know,

1171
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 6: midway through the year I was getting more looks and

1172
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 6: then I thought, you know, I wanted to be you know,

1173
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 6: developed into the best player I can. Being coach Arball

1174
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 6: and a bunch of you know NFL caliber coaches were there.

1175
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 6: So my ultimate goals to be an NFL and you

1176
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 6: know why not you know, Michigan and get developed by

1177
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 6: the best to you know, get to my ols wimen goals.

1178
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: So you've been around winning won a national championship that

1179
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: was probable? Was that the pen of your sports career

1180
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: at that moment?

1181
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1182
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 7: For sure? Was that?

1183
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: How special is it to have that bond with all

1184
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: the guys that were on that team with you to

1185
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: win the national championship?

1186
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's kind of just you know different nowadays.

1187
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 6: You know, I feel like college football is never going

1188
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 6: to be the same, you know, you know, all this

1189
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 6: nil stuff going on. So I feel like that was

1190
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 6: the last year, you know, an actual team was formed,

1191
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 6: you know, and just that's what a team really was

1192
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 6: supposed to be. And you know, just we'll look back on,

1193
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 6: you know that Natty thirty years from now, we'll have

1194
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 6: reunions and it's just gonna be cool seeing all the guys.

1195
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 6: You know a lot of players, you know, Mikey sand Rastill's,

1196
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 6: Chris Jenkins, Junior Colson's, you know, all those type of guys.

1197
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 7: Uh, you know that will come. It's gonna be cool

1198
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 7: all being the league for a long time.

1199
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, there's like what fifteen twenty.

1200
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, there's I think there was like fifteen some

1201
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 7: guys drafted last year.

1202
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, a bunch more this year.

1203
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: M h.

1204
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 4: That's it's pretty cool. It is very special.

1205
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 3: And I know you've already got a lot of questions

1206
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 3: about the Ohio state aspect, but my I'm from californ

1207
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: as well, so I'm from northern California, from San Francisco

1208
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: Bay Area. The I have a lot of friends who

1209
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: will Michigan people, a lot of friends who are house

1210
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: say people. All the Michigan people are very excited. As

1211
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: I told you earlier about my buddy the kid, the

1212
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: Highota people are like, you know what, he kind of

1213
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: kicked our butts, so like, I'm glad he's on our

1214
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: side now.

1215
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1216
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 4: So that's which is rare.

1217
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: And things have come a long way obviously in that rivalry,

1218
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: but that's rare, especially for a guy that I mean,

1219
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: I'll say it for you.

1220
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: It didn't lose, did not lose to the Ohio State bodcust.

1221
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's cool, you know, just seeing how the Cleveland

1222
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 6: fans are embracing me, you know we obviously we have

1223
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 6: our differences in the past, but you know we're coming

1224
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 6: together for the betterment of the team. And you know,

1225
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 6: all I want to do is come to Cleveland, you know,

1226
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 6: build a city up and build this team up to

1227
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 6: get you know, Cleveland back on top.

1228
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 5: Right.

1229
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: So I was going through this is Dane Brugler's profile

1230
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: on you, and I don't know if you're aware. He

1231
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: does this thing called the Beast, which is in this

1232
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: binder that is his scamp everybody that is draft eligible,

1233
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: and it has all kinds of cool nuggets in it.

1234
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 3: And one of the things I was reading about that

1235
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: struck me was that you spend some time prior to

1236
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: last season training with the sax Sense Javon Gopie Am

1237
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: I saying his name right, Tell me about that?

1238
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: What is what do you get from a sax Sense?

1239
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's just his name he goes by.

1240
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 6: But you know, I've worked with a lot of you know,

1241
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 6: great coaches, and you know, I happened to be in

1242
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 6: Florida and then he's based out of Florida.

1243
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 7: So I just wanted to get some work in. You know,

1244
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 7: he was there to you know, help me.

1245
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 6: I trained that this facility called bomb Rito out there

1246
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 6: for a day and I did some work with sax

1247
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 6: Sense too, so it was it was pretty cool. Just

1248
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 6: you know, all I want to do is you know, work,

1249
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 6: you know, no matter who that be with, I feel

1250
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 6: like work is work at the end of the day.

1251
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: How excited are you to go from and I know

1252
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: that you loved what you did obviously at Michigan. But

1253
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: we talked about this a little bit last night. Just attacking,

1254
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: just being like, my job is to beat the guy

1255
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: in front of me and go disrupt the play.

1256
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I I feel like it's just gonna

1257
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 6: make everything simpler for me. Coach Schwartz was kind of

1258
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: referring to me kind of like taking the chains off,

1259
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 6: taking the cuffs off, so you know, kind of letting loose, attacking,

1260
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 6: you know, creating negative plays, and you know, I'm really

1261
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 6: gonna embrace that.

1262
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: So I saw video that our social team put out

1263
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: of You've got a text for Miles Garrett kind of

1264
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 3: immediately yeah, what would if you care to share?

1265
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: You don't have to.

1266
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: What did he say? And what how's that relationship? Where

1267
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: did that relationship start?

1268
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 6: I mean it was just brief, you know, he congratulated me,

1269
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 6: you know, and just basically said he's excited to work

1270
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 6: with me. And you know, obviously I'm excited to work

1271
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 6: with him. He's one of the best, and I feel

1272
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 6: like I can learn a lot from him.

1273
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: Is it one of the weird things I would have imagine

1274
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: going from college to the pros is that now Miles

1275
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Garrett's your teammate. Is a guy that I'm sure you've

1276
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: watched and you've seen. Obviously he's gonna end his career

1277
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: in Canton. And now it's like you're gonna look over

1278
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: and be like, oh man, they're double team in him.

1279
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 4: Let's go. But there he is.

1280
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I feel like he'll create you know,

1281
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 6: a lot of opportunities for both of us. You know,

1282
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 6: obviously he has a lot of attension on him, but

1283
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 6: you know, I'm I came here to come, you know,

1284
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 6: take some attention off of him and you know, free

1285
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 6: him up a little bit, and you know, I feel

1286
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 6: like we're gonna work really good together along with all

1287
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 6: the other guys on the front.

1288
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: How excited are you to actually get to work to

1289
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: actually because this is you're not here to do interviews.

1290
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: It's part of the gig right, but you're here to

1291
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: play football.

1292
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like, you know, this draft process is

1293
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 6: really long, but you know, a lot happens in you know,

1294
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: twenty four hours. You know, all the action really happened.

1295
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 6: But you know it's four months of you know, meeting

1296
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 6: with teams, you know, everyone trying to get to know

1297
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Speaker 6: you and you know, find out what you know makes

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Speaker 6: me the player I am.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, just be listening.

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Speaker 3: What was the most important thing that you wanted to

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Speaker 3: convey to teams that were interested in you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wanted to convey. You know, I feel like

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Speaker 6: I'm the most dominant player in this draft class. You know,

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Speaker 6: I feel you know, a lot of players, you know

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Speaker 6: sometimes are one dimensional. I feel like I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 6: I play the running pass at you know, equally high level.

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Speaker 6: You know, I feel like and I just have the

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Speaker 6: mental and physical toughness to have what it takes.

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Speaker 4: What do you want to accomplish? Winning is the goal?

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Speaker 3: And I know that every team wants when every player

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Speaker 3: wants to win. What do you hope that you can

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Speaker 3: kind of come in here and it comes not numbers

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Speaker 3: or anything like that, but what is your goal like

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Speaker 3: for your rookie season in the National Football League as

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Speaker 3: he makes some You're the most dominant player on this draft.

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Speaker 3: How do you hope that that translates in to your

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Speaker 3: rookie season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to make a name for myself.

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Speaker 6: Obviously I got drafted high, comes with a lot of expectations,

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Speaker 6: but you know, I just want to make a name

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Speaker 6: for myself and h you know, obviously win a lot

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Speaker 6: of games, like you said, but you know, have the

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Speaker 6: respect of my teammates to you know, want to be

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Speaker 6: on the field with me and uh, you know, take

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Speaker 6: Cleveland back to the top conference championships and then you know,

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Speaker 6: ultimately Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Have you heard from coach Charbaugh?

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Speaker 7: I heard from during the combine, you know, when I

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Speaker 7: was at the combine.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's not happier in his conference.

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Speaker 7: I know he's all good.

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Speaker 6: You know, they got great players too over there, so

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Speaker 6: you know, happy for those guys and it's always good

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Speaker 6: catching up with them. All right.

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Speaker 3: If there's one thing that when you put on the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns uniform, says Graham across the back of your

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Speaker 3: of your back, that you want Cleveland Browns fans to

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Speaker 3: know about you or think about because when you play football.

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Speaker 3: You're in a full uniform. You can't really read your face,

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Speaker 3: can't see the emotion. What's one thing you want Browns

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Speaker 3: fans whenever they see Mason Graham on the field, that

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Speaker 3: you want them to know what.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm just gonna do anything for us to win,

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Speaker 6: you know, whatever that may look like or you know,

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Speaker 6: look like, yeah, but just I'm gonna do anything, whether

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Speaker 6: I be you know, lining up anywhere along the front,

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Speaker 6: you know, doing whatever it takes to win at the

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Speaker 6: end of the day. So just no, you know, Browns

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Speaker 6: fans out you're getting get a fierce competitor that just

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Speaker 6: wants to win.

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Speaker 4: Do you hate losing? I hate losing more than you

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Speaker 4: like winning.

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I hate losing more than I like winning.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: Thrilled to have you here, Congratulations and I know that

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Speaker 3: this is in some ways right, it's the culmination of

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Speaker 3: a life's dream, But in another way, it's the start

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Speaker 3: of a new one right for you. So congrats on that,

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Speaker 3: and excited to see you put on the uniform to

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Speaker 3: go out there and wreck some people for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it, Thank you, Thank you man.

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Speaker 2: All right there. You have great stuff with z and Mason. There.

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Speaker 2: We'll have some of the audio from this weekend that

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Speaker 2: was filled with a lot of good stuff. You'll have

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Speaker 2: that to look forward to, which is nice. That's coming

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Speaker 2: up next to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESP

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Speaker 2: and Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily presented by bally Back, an official sports

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Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty ESP

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Well thirteen million on day one. The weekend was full

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Speaker 2: as well, seven point three. The audience was huge for this,

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Speaker 2: and it's this is a culmination of really a two

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Speaker 2: month marathon to get to the draft. I mean, you

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01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: think about how many mock drafts you and I have

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Speaker 2: gone through over this time, how much things change. It's

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Speaker 2: such an industry that delivers upon in a very very

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Speaker 2: big way. So there's a lot of people want to

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Speaker 2: hear from. Let's start with Andrew Berry. He was asked,

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Speaker 2: drafting two running backs means Nick Chubb will.

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Speaker 9: Not be back here as ab on that, I'd say,

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Speaker 9: you know, not necessarily, but you know the complexion of

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Speaker 9: our running back room has changed this weekend, and so

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Speaker 9: as we you know, work through the you know, on

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Speaker 9: drafted free agency process, you'll maybe take a breath on Sunday,

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Speaker 9: you know, we'll reassess kind of where the roster is

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Speaker 9: and what opportunities are available to us, you know, on

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Speaker 9: the veteran market, and then we'll operate from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a numbers game a little bit. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that this organization would love to have Nick

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Speaker 2: Chubb back. He remains right there on the wall and

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Speaker 2: so we see him every day, uh, in terms of

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Speaker 2: his image. But at the same time, like there, it

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Speaker 2: takes two to tango on that. So we'll see what transpires.

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Speaker 2: And your running back room is really young now and really.

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Speaker 8: Explosive, really explosive, and really cheap. Yeah, yep, which is

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Speaker 8: a benefit when you need to say, get elite production

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Speaker 8: at one spot and save money at the same time.

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Speaker 8: By the way, I also think I would love to

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Speaker 8: see Nick Chubb back. I think there are a lot

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Speaker 8: of people that would love to see Nick Chubb back

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 2: All Right, here is ab on his expectation for fifth

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Speaker 2: round pick sud Or Sanders.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, Shador has kind of grown up in the spotlight,

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Speaker 9: but you know, our expectation is for him to come

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Speaker 9: in here and work and compete. Nothing's been promised, nothing's

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Speaker 9: you know, nothing will be given, So you know, I

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Speaker 9: may you know, has to characterize it as a blockbuster.

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Speaker 9: That's not necessarily how we thought of the transaction. But

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Speaker 9: we are excited to work with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can classify whatever you want. He was the

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Speaker 2: most talked about player leading into this draft for two months.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So with that comes all of it. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: it's part of it. It's one of those things. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do you think his like just Instagram following? Is

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Speaker 2: is it like four million?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it's enormous.

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Speaker 3: The thing about it is coming in as a fifth

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Speaker 3: rounder is very different than coming in as a first rounder. Yes,

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Speaker 3: or even you know pick thirty three or thirty six

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Speaker 3: would have been. Yeah, it is going to be about him,

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Speaker 3: you know, working and doing the things and answering the questions.

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Speaker 3: The tape speaks for itself, which is why you make

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Speaker 3: the gamble that you did. It's everything else that we

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Speaker 3: weren't privy to, or that mel Kiper wasn't privy to,

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Speaker 3: or Daniel Jeremiah wasn't privy to that had him fall

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Speaker 3: to one forty four is he going to how does

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Speaker 3: he deal with that? And I think, honestly, I really

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Speaker 3: think being here and being on his own and being

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Speaker 3: away from obviously some things he got that were very

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Speaker 3: very that were bad. It was bad advice, right, yep,

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Speaker 3: that it could be a really good thing for him.

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Speaker 3: And if he has if he can maximize the gifts

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Speaker 3: that he's got, this could be a franchise changing pick

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Speaker 3: in the fifth round that you really didn't have to

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Speaker 3: use any assets on.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a it's a big swing and

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Speaker 2: one that has a very very high ceiling and a

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Speaker 2: pretty high floor here. Shure on how he thinks he

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Speaker 2: will fit here in Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: I know I'm gonna fit in perfectly. I feel like

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Speaker 10: it's first getting in, showing the respect to the events,

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Speaker 10: showing them you know, I'm here, ready to work, so

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Speaker 10: they could actually understand the real me. That's what I'm

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Speaker 10: truly thankful to have is an opportunity for people to

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Speaker 10: actually see the real me and not be able to

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Speaker 10: see stuff that could be true or not. That's what

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Speaker 10: I'm most excited about being in the building, and of

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Speaker 10: course in the staff and on the staff and the cafeteria.

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Speaker 10: Everything was extremely The people that were genuing it.

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Speaker 1: Was real cool.

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Speaker 10: So I left that visit knowing that if that was

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Speaker 10: the place for me, I would feel real comfortable with

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Speaker 10: what they have in place.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: I like.

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Speaker 3: He was also asked another question about you know, would

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Speaker 3: he have done some things differently in the process, and

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Speaker 3: they said, yeah, there's I definitely could have done a

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Speaker 3: lot of things differently, and so to me, the first

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Speaker 3: thing to be able to change is doing knowledge that

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Speaker 3: you have to make some changes, and I hope that

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Speaker 3: it works out. I am a big fan of his

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Speaker 3: on tape, I'm not privy to any of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: None of us were.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what we talked about, but yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited to see what he can do.

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Speaker 2: Very's really accurate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so so was the next guy.

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Speaker 2: The next guy we're going to hear about, and this

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Speaker 2: is from Greg Cosell, who you know the type of

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Speaker 2: pedestal we sit Greg upon. Here is him on the

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Speaker 2: Ross Tucker podcast on the third Round Quarterback. The quarterback

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Speaker 2: we chose first, that is Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 11: You know, I think that Gabriel is a guy that

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Speaker 11: has a natural feel for the position. I think he's

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Speaker 11: got subtle and nuanced pocket movement, which you don't see

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Speaker 11: from a lot of college quarterbacks. I think he has

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Speaker 11: a pretty refined feel for when to come off intermediate

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Speaker 11: route concepts and check the ball down. He rarely gets

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Speaker 11: stuck in the pocket. I mean, I think you're dealing

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Speaker 11: with a guy obviously, because he's only he was five

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Speaker 11: to eleven in an eighth. He's got a little bit

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Speaker 11: better armed than people are giving him credit for. He

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Speaker 11: does not have a bad arm at all. What he

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Speaker 11: needs at the next level, and I think in an

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Speaker 11: ideal world, this is what Kevin Stefanski wants his offense

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Speaker 11: to look like. Is he needs a passing game built

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Speaker 11: on timing and rhythm concepts, maybe an emphasis on RPO

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Speaker 11: and quick game where Gabriel can hit his back foot,

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Speaker 11: deliver the ball, play action, play action boot to clearly

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Speaker 11: define reads and present cleaner throws. This is what Kevin

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Speaker 11: Stefanski obviously wants his offense to look like.

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's the smartest guy you're gonna know.

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Speaker 2: On Gabriel and how that all fits in, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to like about him. I was thinking about this though,

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Speaker 2: when they had the video comps with him in Hawaii,

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking, like a year ago at spring break,

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Speaker 2: how long that was to fly from there to here?

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, we went off the air on Friday night. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Like we picked him and the conference call is happening,

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 5: and they're like, I said, well, can we tape with

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Speaker 5: him on Saturday? And they're like yeah, And then someone

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Speaker 5: casually said, because I didn't know this, yeah, well he's

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Speaker 5: in Hawaii though, so timing we'll have to figure out.

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Speaker 5: I go, can we tape him right now?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, because it's because it's six o'clock, six.

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 5: O'clock he's living And I'm like, you already have him

1513
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 5: on the phone, and you know, the guy's stuck around

1514
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 5: and we taped with him late Friday night. We'll play that.

1515
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 5: We'll probably play that this week at some point. But

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he was great, he was fantastic. But I'm like,

1517
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 5: there's no way we were noon to four. I mean

1518
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 5: he would just be waking up potentially on Saturday.

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01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, six hour difference. Absolutely.

1520
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 2: All right, this is do you want to do this

1521
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: now or is this There's two things that went viral

1522
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: this weekend that we're going to want to expand upon

1523
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: one the prank call in shoud Or and the real

1524
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: truth on that, and then this Belichick video. Should we

1525
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: take a time out? And then absolutely, let's take a

1526
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: quick time out, and then we'll get into all of that,

1527
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: because there were two things that one just surreal, the

1528
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 2: other one just awful. We'll get into both of those

1529
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,559
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1538
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: so two things kind of viral over well a lot

1539
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: viral over the weekend, but this is two of them.

1540
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: Let's start with what happened to Shador and it happened

1541
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 2: to a lot of draft picks. Tyler Warren was involved

1542
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: in this where they were prank and Cross supposedly well

1543
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: did ma skid it too? Okay, so there's Selver. Shaduur

1544
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 2: was the most famous, and I give him credit because

1545
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 2: he didn't have to put this out, and he did that.

1546
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: He had been prank called. I thought it was a

1547
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: failure of an intelligence test for the people who did it.

1548
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: That they too put the video out. I thought that

1549
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: was wild to do that, but they did, and so

1550
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday it was revealed who they were and that

1551
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: they is a kid named Jax Olbrick who's a twenty

1552
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: one year old. Now you're saying, well, why you mentioned

1553
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: his name, Well, here's why. He is the son of

1554
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: Falcons defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrook. He was one of at

1555
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: least behind one of the three prank calls at least

1556
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 2: who were played on NFL Draft prospects over the weekend.

1557
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: Olbrook says he's responsible for the prank call to Shudur

1558
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: Sanders on Friday night. Obrik's friend made the call with

1559
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: Olbrook sitting next to him. They filmed all of this. So, like,

1560
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean, just by the intelligence level on this stunning

1561
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 2: a twenty one year old act behaving like this, I mean,

1562
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: you expect this from.

1563
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 4: A thirteen year old.

1564
01:13:54,479 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he apologized on his Instagram for it the

1565
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 2: Falcons had to get involved in this. Earlier in the week,

1566
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: Jack's Olbrook unintentionally came across draft contact contact phone numbers

1567
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: for Sugar Sanders off an open iPad while visiting his parents'

1568
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 2: home and wrote the number down to later conduct a

1569
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 2: prank call. Jeff Olbrook has been unaware of the data

1570
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: exposure or any facet of the prank, and was made

1571
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 2: aware of the above only after the fact. No punishment

1572
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: for the defensive coordinator.

1573
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, It's hard for him to be held responsible,

1574
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: but he had the information. I find that it's it

1575
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: seems to be kind of a very curious notion that

1576
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 3: it was he unintentionally came across the number.

1577
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 4: It feels like pretty intentional.

1578
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: Very intentional that he came amaze and then decided to

1579
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: weaponize it.

1580
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's act cool to me.

1581
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: The kid should be insignificantly more trouble than his dad,

1582
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: for sure. I mean, if your kid got took something

1583
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 3: off your iPad without your knowledge, I.

1584
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: Think the fact that the kid's twenty one two makes

1585
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 2: it it should fall on his life anywhere else. Yes,

1586
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: But I also think, like.

1587
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: If what could the dad have done differently because he's

1588
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: gonna have the information obviously, that's why.

1589
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: They Oh, you shouldn't have your If it's that type

1590
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: of sensitive material, then it shouldn't be something that's laying around,

1591
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: even for the kid to get into.

1592
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 4: Yes, fair, even though it's a twenty one year old adult.

1593
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 5: It is if you're old enough to drink and oh no, no,

1594
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 5: by the army, like come on.

1595
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 4: That's the part of this that doesn't make sense to me.

1596
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: First of all, we all know our iPads after a

1597
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 3: period of inactivity locked rather quickly.

1598
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure an NFL issued one locks in

1599
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: a minute.

1600
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 3: So I'm The part that doesn't add up to me

1601
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 3: is that this was just an intent. It was just

1602
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 3: left up on the screen. Yeah, the kid went into

1603
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 3: his iPad and sourced it. That's why I don't think

1604
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 3: the fathers.

1605
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: So other than did he give him the code to

1606
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: his iPad? Who knows his NFL issued iPad? That it's

1607
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: an awful look. And I'm going to tell you what

1608
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: I would This is how I would view this dad

1609
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: going forward. I don't know this guy. This guy ever

1610
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 2: been in our building. We had this guy in our building.

1611
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 3: He was like the DC with the Jets under Sala.

1612
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: He was with the Niners. He was the interim head

1613
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 3: coach of the Jets. They fired Sala.

1614
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: You have kids, I have kids. You have kids. Your

1615
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: kids are a reflection of you.

1616
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying. The fact that his kid

1617
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: is making he has.

1618
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: Raised a punk kid. That's it. When I see a

1619
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 2: kid who's misbehaving in any of the kid's peer group,

1620
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 2: I look at the parents and what's going on with you.

1621
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 3: The one pushback I will give is, he's twenty one

1622
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 3: years old, so like you could have raised him well,

1623
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 3: and then they go to college and then they're off

1624
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: on their own. True true, Like this kid's making his

1625
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: own decision kids, And.

1626
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: Like, I agree with you. He's twenty one, so I

1627
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 2: think they changed it a little. But I also think,

1628
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: like he stinks it's cool. He's being a punk. This

1629
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: is like jerky boys. It's like for sure stuff. I'm

1630
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: just saying unked when we were kid all that as

1631
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: a twenty one year old. If he had committed let's

1632
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 2: call it a heinous crime. Let's say he actually like

1633
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 2: committed a real sure the police are involved crime, a murder,

1634
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: something hates right on some level, you could say, yes,

1635
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: that is the parents. Something happened, but like the parents

1636
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: aren't being tried, he's being no, no, I agree twenty one.

1637
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: To me, it's right on.

1638
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: The edge your own though when you're at you are,

1639
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: you're at college if you are.

1640
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: But if it's in there now, it was in there before.

1641
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: I'm with Kevin a little bit. I think like there's

1642
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: a I think it. I think until to me, twenty

1643
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: one is right on the edge of like, i'd have

1644
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: to know you incubated it, you incubated some of.

1645
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: It is upbringing, for sure, and what it was like

1646
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 3: is he one of the kids that went to one

1647
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: of those prep schools and has basically been on.

1648
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 4: His own for a while.

1649
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 5: Yick.

1650
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's.

1651
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 4: An NFL coach.

1652
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 3: We know how difficult it is to be present given

1653
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 3: the hours and the demands of that.

1654
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 4: It's a brutal it's not good. It's a horrible. Look my.

1655
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: I feel some sympathy for the parent, because sometimes you

1656
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: could raise the kids perfectly and they could go be

1657
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 3: absolutely punks on their own for sure.

1658
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 2: And I again, I'm not thinking, I'm not don't necessarily say,

1659
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the dad should be fired. But I

1660
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: do think that there is a there is probably i'd

1661
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: look at him differently.

1662
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 4: He feels like double secret probation for sure.

1663
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 2: And I think it's yeah, because of his part in it,

1664
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: and I think it's something that he's going to carry

1665
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: with him a little bit. You had sensitive material, your

1666
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 2: kid thought he'd be cool and take access of it

1667
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: and have fun with it. By the way, how how

1668
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: did he think he wasn't going to get caught he

1669
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: filmed it? Well, that's the that that's the intelligence. That

1670
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 2: is an intelligence failure.

1671
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 3: But that is also, to me an entitlement issue where

1672
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: you I'm above it all.

1673
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: You said it. I mean, that's that's where he raised

1674
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: a punk. It's what it seems like. So yeah, it's yeah,

1675
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: I didn't that's a bad, bad look. I thought shouldar

1676
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: handled it incredibly well, even took the kid's call.

1677
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 4: Apparently, yes it Yeah, he's handled it very and even.

1678
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: He was asked repeatedly in his call about it down

1679
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 3: there to the point where it was like okay, like yes,

1680
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 3: he was prank called it was not cool. He said

1681
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna let it bother him. It is, So

1682
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 3: that's that.

1683
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1684
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And apparently a bunch of these happened over the weekend.

1685
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 4: So yes, yes, it's just a crazy thing to do.

1686
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 3: It's not funny, it's not nice.

1687
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: It's you hit it at reeks of entitlement and yes, gross, Yeah,

1688
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: is jack assery a word, A little bit.

1689
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: Of that, you know, I mean, but to me and

1690
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: when I think of that word, I think of the

1691
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 3: fine TV show and movies, and those guys are just

1692
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,959
Speaker 3: out to get them.

1693
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1694
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: This, yeah, this is tough. It's tough.

1695
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 3: Look Knoxville, by the way, I don't know if you're

1696
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: watching the studio at all. It's entertaining and they're quick,

1697
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: which is fun. Seth Rogan like the head of a studio.

1698
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's have not started it.

1699
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 3: But Knoxville has a last of us, by the way,

1700
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 3: is phenomenal.

1701
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1702
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 3: But Knoxville has a cam me on the last one.

1703
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 4: It's so Knoxville. It's outrageous. It's great.

1704
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: All right. So that's all fiction. Yes, what we're about

1705
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: to play is reality. So this is This was yesterday,

1706
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: courtesy of CBS. This was CBS Sunday Morning, which is

1707
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: if if you're there was a time, and I think

1708
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: it still aspires to be this like this was appointment television,

1709
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: like long form journalism, interviews, feel good stories like this

1710
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: would hair on CBS Sunday morning.

1711
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 5: This was part of it. We have it on a

1712
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 5: lot of Sunday mornings in the booth because the network

1713
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 5: pregame show, Yeah, don't start till ten or eleven in

1714
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 5: the morning. Sure, we usually have it on because most

1715
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 5: of our games are on CBS. And like I've seen

1716
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 5: some unbelievable yes interviews, long form with Dave Matthews, like

1717
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 5: it is a whole wide range. It can be anybody

1718
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 5: from any spectrum of life, so pretty impressive.

1719
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: There's been a lot that about Bill Belichick's choices in

1720
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 2: the last five months that I've found to be strange.

1721
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 2: I found it strange that he took a job at

1722
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: North Carolina. I found it a little strange that he

1723
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: took a job at North Carolina. And then the big

1724
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Speaker 2: revelation was going to be that he's going to run

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01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: it like an NFL operation. Well, they've only been doing

1726
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: that for two decades, Bill.

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Speaker 4: Then I found how many people really thought that was.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, Like, really, people that should know better

1729
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: be crazy. So then he hiles Michael Lombardi Michael Lombardi

1730
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 2: has not been in college football ever that I could find. Ever,

1731
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: he was a general manager in the National Football leagu

1732
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: going to play a personnel guy, but never in college,

1733
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: which is an entirely different thing. So I thought that

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01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: was strange him dating at twenty four year old. A

1735
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: little strange, I understand it, but a little strange. Quite So,

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01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: he's he's on CBS Sunday morning in an interview that

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01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: feels like it was it's it's done to promote his book.

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: He's got a book out about what he learned as

1739
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 2: a football coach. So he's sitting to do this interview.

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01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: He is in a Naval Academy hoodie that looks to

1741
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 2: be fifty years old. I mean, it's got rips, it's tattered,

1742
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: pretty wild. Now he's an employee at the University of

1743
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 2: North Carolina. I would think that it would have been

1744
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: smart for him to be in a Carolina football hoodie,

1745
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 2: but instead he's in a navyhood And as much.

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Speaker 5: That pains me to say, they make some pretty quality Yeah,

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01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 5: they a good looking gear. Yeah, putting out some pretty

1748
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 5: nice gear.

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01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: They got some good looking gear at North Carolina. Not

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01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: only is he in the Navy hoodie. The girlfriend is

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01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: as well, Jordan what's her name, Hudson, Jordan Hudson, Jordan Hudson.

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: She's in it as well. All right, So they're doing

1753
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: the interview. Belichick's sitting there, guy named Tony Duck.

1754
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: And she's not over and standing over his shoulder in

1755
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 3: throughout the interview.

1756
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 2: But to this point in it, we haven't seen that

1757
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: part of it. And then we do, and then this happened.

1758
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: Have a listen. Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.

1759
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 2: You have Jordan right over there. Everybody in the world

1760
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion

1761
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: about your private life.

1762
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: He's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested

1763
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: in it.

1764
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that?

1765
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 3: Never been too worried about what everybody else. Thanks, just

1766
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: to try to do what I feel like is that's

1767
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: for me?

1768
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 2: And what's right? How did you guys meet?

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 6: Not talking about this?

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 11: No, No, it's a topic neither one of them is

1771
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 11: comfortable commenting on.

1772
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: So CBS has now this part. Maybe you could argue

1773
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 2: they did him a little dirty on this. They have

1774
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: a camera behind him that has her in the background.

1775
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: Now when they do those interviews, they have a bunch

1776
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: of cameras like they're kind of everywhere to kind of

1777
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: gather all of it. But then they show video of

1778
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: her like coming up to him and we've seen her

1779
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: at spring football and stuff, going right on the field

1780
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: to talk to Belichick. It's wild, man, and to say

1781
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: we're not talking about that, and he just.

1782
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 3: As an interjection, Yeah, like she's running the show.

1783
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 5: It is.

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: Completely it's wild. It was a tough watch and I

1785
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 3: think that if you were to ask me, does my opinion, see,

1786
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: it raises a lot more questions than just whatever story

1787
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 3: it is that they wanted to present, saying would have

1788
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 3: raised course, they just would have.

1789
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 4: Said it whatever it is.

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01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously now someone was saying this morning that on

1791
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: her Instagram he stopped her on a plane because she

1792
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 2: had a book and he to compliment her on the book.

1793
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,839
Speaker 3: So that would be a very easy story to tell. Correct,

1794
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 3: that's a story, that's cute, that's romantic.

1795
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting reading. Why not just tell it?

1796
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: So strange, so.

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01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:14,839
Speaker 3: Strange sometimes the most obvious answer, yeah is the answer.

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01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: Right, it's just so strange to me that this is

1799
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 2: a guy. There's so many different ways that he could

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01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 2: have that he could approach late life, but a guy

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Speaker 2: who has done what he's done in the National Football League.

1802
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, probably the bigger headline from a

1803
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: football perspective coming out of this is there's no acknowledgement

1804
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: of Bob Craft at all in the book, not even

1805
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: a mention of Bob Craft. Nor is there an acknowledgement

1806
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 2: of Bob Craft. That's probably like whatever happened between Belichick

1807
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 2: and Craft is pretty damaging stuff. And it clearly comes

1808
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: down to you told me Brady was cooked and he wasn't,

1809
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: and I had to watch him win a Super Bowl

1810
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: somewhere else. I think, just connecting dots, I think that's

1811
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: pretty obvious. But no acknowledgment of Craft and that at all.

1812
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: So instead he chooses to go down this college route.

1813
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: She's got him miked up through their whole spring football.

1814
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: They were going to do Carolina snakeskin outfit and she's practice.

1815
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: And putting mics on him. So they were gonna do

1816
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: the hard knocks thing, and then they bailed on that.

1817
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: They're doing nothing in recruiting, nothing, nothing in the portal nothing.

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01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: They're gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad ball. It's

1819
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: just and now this it's just such a like you

1820
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: just wonder like if you're your kids, like dad, what

1821
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: is going on? Man?

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01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 5: What are we doing?

1823
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: And a couple of them I think work for him

1824
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 2: at Carolina.

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01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to think of weird if if so

1826
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 3: they like the fact that no college kids wanted to

1827
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 3: go play for Bill Belichick is wild to me?

1828
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 5: When is.

1829
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: What's an equivalent for if let's just say that this

1830
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 3: goes and they are the worst team in the a

1831
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 3: CC for a couple of years and then he is

1832
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 3: fired or quits never to coach again. M h Like

1833
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 3: who's had a worse Just I hung on way too long?

1834
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: And to their from as that level of.

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Speaker 2: A peak, I don't know. I mean, like the first thing.

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01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: I think it was like Bob Knight, like those two.

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01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: You know, maybe he hung on a little too long,

1838
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,879
Speaker 2: but I mean at Indiana, Yeah, he had a graceful

1839
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: finish at Texas Tech. Yeah, there's not a lot.

1840
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Like Jordan with the Wizards. But didn't he at least

1841
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: take him to the playoffs?

1842
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: They didn't make the playoffs? But I don't know that

1843
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: he also owned the team, so it wasn't. Yeah, I

1844
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 2: mean they had the thirty sixth best recruiting class in

1845
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: the country at North Carolina this year.

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01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: So he comes back and was an All star in

1847
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 3: those final two years there ye two at twenty three

1848
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 3: and twenty points a game at thirty eight and thirty nine,

1849
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 3: So like that wasn't.

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Speaker 5: He had the thirty sixth best recruiting class. Were any

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01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 5: of those guys on Ohio States right now?

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01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 2: Oh?

1853
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 4: No, thirty six exactly what I mean? But aren't there

1854
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 4: like one hundred?

1855
01:27:58,880 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1856
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 2: But I mean in the AC it's probably right now

1857
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 2: they're nine in the portal class, but you're surrounded by

1858
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: like the Kentucky's and the missouris like those type of schools.

1859
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: Is kind of where you are on that Let's see

1860
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 2: where he was in the ACC. It's thirty sixth.

1861
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 4: Overall, so maybe they won't be. It's not gonna they

1862
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 4: might not.

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01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 5: Be like oh for over No, No, I don't no, no, no,

1864
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 5: don't know.

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01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be the worst team in It was

1866
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 2: the eighth best recruiting class in the ACC, behind Duke

1867
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 2: and NC State, Clemson, SMU, Georgia Tech, Florida State Crazy

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01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 2: eighth best recruiting class at a place where you can recruit.

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you can recruit a little bit of Carolina.

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01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: That was surreal though. That's olks. The audio if you

1871
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: have not seen the video, the video makes it even worse.

1872
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Please it's it's even worse.

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01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 5: So much more to come.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliana will join. They will recap the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five n FL Draft. I mean, think about this, we

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Speaker 2: did all of this. There's so much more to get

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Speaker 2: into on our our draft picks. In terms of all

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01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: the guys, I know you spoke with many of them.

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Speaker 2: We have we still have to go around the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean you think about visions, some of the reaches,

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Speaker 2: some of the some of the home runs that were hit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, for example, I think as soon as

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Speaker 2: a state finished playing. I said, Jack Sawyer is going

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Speaker 2: to be a Steeler like that was the easiest one

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Speaker 2: to project by far. So there were a lot of

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Speaker 2: those ones.

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Speaker 4: Jack Sawyer, Will Howard. People losing their minds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this league, just the quarterbacks in general,

1897
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 3: where they were drafted and it was stunning.

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01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 4: There's not a lot of belief in.

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01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: This quarterback class, not at all. McCord and Howard both six's.

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Speaker 2: Yours was a seven. Yeah, it was wild. It was

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01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: really wild. They were looking for specific traits. I just

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01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 2: don't I think sometimes they overthought it a little bit.

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01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 4: But did you see in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I only have two seconds, but Jalen Milroe said after

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Speaker 3: his draft by the Seahawks that they told him that

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01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 3: he was the best quarterback in this draft. And then

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Speaker 3: the press or the GM and that coach up there

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Speaker 3: and they that quote was related to them.

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Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, no, we didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: We did not say jeez, that's what happens, man, that's

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Speaker 2: what happens.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: The next level is coming up next. We are back tomorrow.

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