1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: So there's a recent exchange on MSNBC where Jensaki and 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow are basically mocking Americans for caring about the 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: issue of immigration. We'll play that clip later in the show, 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: but we're saying immigration obviously take center stage and become 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: a top issue heading into the twenty and twenty four election. 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: This comes at a time where Americans have seen millions 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: of illegal aliens enter the United States under Joe Biden, 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: and with that has come crime. With that has come 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: a massive financial responsibility in the backs of American taxpayers 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: who are already struggling in Joe Biden's economy and in 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's America. With all that, we also see Chinese 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: nationals and people coming from all these enem nations into 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: the United States as well. How will this play out 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: this election cycle? We're going to ask Senator Marsha Blackburn 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: from the Great State of Tennessee. This is a big 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: issue for her. It's one that she's hearing when she's 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: going around her state and speaking with people. So we're 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: going to get her take on all of this and more. 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Stay with us, Senator Blackburn, It's always an honor to 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: have you on the show. So we are recording this 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: for the audience before Joe Biden's State of the Union speech, 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: before we get into anything serious. Is it hard to 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: not make faces when he speaks? I feel like I'm 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: like a terrible poker player, and so I feel like 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: my face would show it all. I always wonder how 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: hard it is to sit there and try to, you know, 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: not smirk or not be angry. 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: And being having really just a response to much of 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: what he says. Because as I am a cross Souber 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: state in Tennessee every year and talking with people, I 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: hear them talk about the impact of the illegal aliens 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: that are in their communities, crimes that have been committed, 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: the loss of life from some of our angel parents, 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: and they still grieve those instances. And do you know 35 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: many of these people have come across the border illegally. 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: You look at Lake and Riley in her death and Lisa, 37 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: that is somebody Joe Biden parolled into the country, which 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: is a special classification. And he has parolled eight hundred 39 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: thousand and twenty two one point two million and twenty 40 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: three granting them this status and get work permits. They 41 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 2: can get benefits and you know, compare that to Obama, 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: who parolled about fifty six hundred people a year and 43 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: Trump had about the same number. So you hear some 44 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: of these things that this administration kind of makes up, 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: and you know that these are truths. It's things like 46 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: for three years they've said the border is secure, and 47 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, because of polling, they're saying 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: the border is a crisis. 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: But you know, Joe Biden says that this is on 50 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: you guys. You know this is on Republicans in Congress. 51 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: We're failing to act and this is your fault, is 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: what he says. 53 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: Well, that is what he says, and people know that 54 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: is just not true. They know that under President Donald Trump, 55 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: he listened to the border patrol. They said we need 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: three things. We need a physical barrier. That's where the 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: phrase build the wall came from. They also said, we 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: need to make certain that we have better technology where 59 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,559 Speaker 2: we can't have a wall, and we need more officers 60 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: and agents. And Donald Trump said, great, that's what we'll do. 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: We'll build the wall, we'll get you some better technology, 62 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: and we'll put some more funding into having enough people 63 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: down here to do the job. So the American people 64 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: know that they did not have the rash of fentanyl, 65 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: drug trafficking, human trafficking, sex trafficking, gangs that are coming 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: in from Venezuela and El Salvador and other places, and 67 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 2: that they are seeing this in their communities. They're living 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: at firsthand. They are seeing the fentanyl death in overdoses. 69 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: They are seeing the crime, They're experiencing the carjackings, they 70 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: are seeing the duys and the accidents that are being 71 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: given out to people that are illegally in the country, 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: and then someone loses their life or they're badly injured 73 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: and their life is altered. 74 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, Senator, I saw this clip on MSBC recently 75 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: and I was dumbfounded. It's an exchange between Jensak and 76 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow. You might have seen it, but I want 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: to play it real quick and then get your reaction afterwards. 78 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at some of these exit poles, 79 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I live in Virginia. 80 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 2: Immigration was the number one issue, of course. I mean again, 81 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: these could change in virgin Well, Virginia. 82 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: Does have a border with West Virginia. How do you 83 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: think the Democrat Party became to out of touch the. 84 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: Democrat party has refused to admit that illegal immigration is 85 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: an issue. They have felt that opening the border, which 86 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: by the way, has been Biden's border policy, it's to 87 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: dissolve our border and to let any and all come 88 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 2: in people from one hundred and seventy different countries last 89 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: year and Lisa, they have looked at it as this 90 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: is an act of compassion. What the American people have 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: feel figured out is there is nothing compassionate about this. 92 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: Women and children are physically, mentally, emotionally, drug and sexually 93 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: abused as they make this journey. And now groups across 94 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: the country are recounting what they are hearing from these 95 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants who are coming in. They are seeing people 96 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: that are being put into servitude to the cartels to 97 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: work out their fee. They're seeing the reports on their 98 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: local news about children that are being put into labor 99 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: gangs in different manufacturing or meat processing facilities, things of 100 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: that nature. That's not reporting coming from Republicans. That's reporting 101 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: coming from the New York Times. And for the Democrats 102 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: to deny that illegal immigration is an issue is something 103 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: that is foolish because the American people know that we're 104 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: a nation of laws, that we abide by the rule 105 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: of law, and if you are breaking the law, you 106 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: are acting in an unlawful manner. And this is where 107 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: the American people are saying, well, you can't illegally enter 108 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: the country, and stop trying to make illegal entry legal. 109 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: And they've had it, They've said enough is enough. And 110 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: when you talk to angel parents, when you look at 111 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: what happened to Lake and Riley, when you look at 112 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: the rapes of fourteen year old girls, the death of 113 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: a two year old, the bludgeoning of a man, when 114 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: you see some of these immigrants that are attacking police officers, 115 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: people are saying, no, this is not what we want. 116 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: This is not how immigration works. If you want to 117 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: come to the country, come legally and let us know 118 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: who you are and why you're coming. 119 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Why are so many Chinese nationals entering the United States? 120 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Lisa, that is a really good question, 121 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: because you don't leave China unless the Chinese Communist Party 122 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: has given you permission to leave China. It's just not 123 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: like you walk out or you get an exit visa 124 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: to go somewhere else. The Chinese Communist Party controls all 125 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: of this. And we know that the Chinese Communist Party 126 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: and some of the China cartels have worked hand in 127 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: hand with the Mexican cartels to China supply the active 128 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: pharmaceutical ingredients, all of the makings for fentanyl and for 129 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: crystal meth, and it's being manufactured in facilities by Chinese 130 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: scientists just south of the Mexico Arizona border. And then 131 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: of course the cartels are the distribution network, and our 132 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: American young people ages eighteen to forty five are the 133 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: target market for the car tales. Right now, fentanyl is 134 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: the number one killer of Americans age eighteen to forty five. 135 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: And to see all of these single young adult males 136 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: choosing to enter the country knowing that these cartels, China 137 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: cartels have worked with these drug distributors, knowing that you've 138 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: got the human trafficking, Knowing that the Chinese Communist Party 139 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 2: is active in surveillance of the United States, knowing they 140 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: keep continuing to try to buy farm land and in 141 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: the cities they keep trying to put up their fewnce 142 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: operation with police stations. This should really be alarming to 143 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: the American people. Twenty four thousand, twenty twenty three alone. 144 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: No, it's so alarming, you know, I wanted to get 145 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you on this, so you know, Joe Biden has clearly 146 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: made the decision that he can't run on his record 147 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: because it's abysbal and he's upside down on all the issues. 148 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: So instead it's to attack Donald Trump. It's the threats 149 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: to democracy narrative. Do you think you'll be successful in 150 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: driving that narrative? 151 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: I do not. I think the Democrats are going to 152 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: go after the threats to a democracy and a couple 153 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: of other issues. But for the American people, the border 154 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: is issue number one, The Biden economy is issue number three, 155 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: number two, and crime in the streets of their communities 156 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: is issue number three. 157 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Skian Adam was recently talking about how you know Donald 158 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Trump has just completely reshaped the Republican Party. It's now 159 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: a party of working people, including voters of minorities as well. 160 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: What do you think the Republican Party stands for today? 161 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: The Republican Party stands for the American dream for I 162 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: call this the Great up Tunity Party, and the GOP 163 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: would be well served to change that. Moniker. It is 164 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 2: about freedom. I say, there's the Big five faith, family, freedom, hope, 165 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: and opportunity for all Americans and Ronald Reagan said it 166 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: so very well that you do not pass freedom along 167 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: generation to generation in the bloodstream. You pass it along 168 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: by defending it. And that means having a strong military 169 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: and peace through strength, a strong economy. It means being 170 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: that city on the hill, that beacon for freedom, that 171 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: place that people want to be. And when you rerode that, 172 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: when you try to diminish American exceptionalism, you lose that. 173 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: And the American people are looking at this and saying, hey, 174 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: wait a minute, we don't want our best days to 175 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: be behind. We've got kids and grandkids. We're worried about them, 176 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: We're worried about their future. We want them to continue 177 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: to live their version of the American dream. And Lisa 178 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: for everyone's going to be different. And the Democrats are 179 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: going to have a very hard time as they look 180 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: at this. What are they for making us a weaker nation? 181 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: What are they for diminishing our freedom? What are they 182 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: for more power to the government. Those are all questions 183 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: that their candidates are going to have to answer. 184 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: No, I think you summarize that you know really well, 185 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: and I totally agree with you. I just praying this 186 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: turns out for us, because you know, Lord knows, we 187 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: didn't need to turn this country around. It's been a 188 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: mess under Joe Biden. Senator Marshall Blackburn, I always love 189 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: having you in the show. I really appreciate you taking 190 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: the time to come on at always an honor. 191 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm delighted to join you. Thank you so much, and 192 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: your audience can keep up with us at social media 193 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: at Marsha Blackburn or my senate website Blackburn dot Senate 194 00:12:59,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: dot com. 195 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Well, we love you and we appreciate you making the time. 196 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: You got it. Take care. 197 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: That was Senator Marsha Blackburn from the Great State of Tennessee. 198 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: Appreciate her making the time. Appreciate you guys at home 199 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen 200 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: throughout the week. What I think John Cassio, my producer, 201 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: for putting the show together. Until next time,