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Speaker 1: And that's a little bit. What Washington's offense was tonight

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Speaker 1: I should start here. Let's just go big picture on

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Speaker 1: I'd say if you would have told any Commander fan

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Speaker 1: at the start of the season they would have got

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Speaker 1: the ten wins, that would be an enormous, enormous success.

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Speaker 1: But the Eagles are now eight and two. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're feeling pretty good. Man, They're looking good. They're just

428
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be tough, they stay healthy. They got a

429
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Speaker 1: lot of dudes. I mean, they really do. Speaking on

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Speaker 1: this weekend, I mean it's just it's a pretty good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Remember two weeks ago, or not two weeks ago, but

432
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Speaker 1: the week I went to the Red River, what week

433
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: was at like first week October, second week October. I

434
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Speaker 1: somehow went to the worst game of the weekend. But

435
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: it was Oklahoma Texas, it was Oregon, Ohio State, it

436
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: was Ole Miss LSU. It was just fantastic games. And

437
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: like you know, the NFL, sometimes you get like one

438
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: good game starting Thursday night. I mean, that was a

439
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: fantastic Thursday night game. On paper, the game was a

440
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: little hit or miss. But Steelers Ravens, I mean it's

441
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: been the best rivalry in football for twenty years. Bill's Chiefs,

442
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: I would say has been one of the better rivalries

443
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,239
Speaker 1: of the Mahomes era for sure. So I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you told me what's the final four in the AFC,

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00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a very very decent possibility that it's

446
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: these four teams. Right, So those two games, obviously there's

447
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: some injuries in terms of the Bills are dealing with.

448
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think the Chiefs, like everyone, including myself,

449
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna go un to feed, They're not

450
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Speaker 1: going to go to Fefe. But all of a sudden you

451
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Speaker 1: win this game. It's like, well fuck, why not. I mean,

452
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're ten and ozer. It's like,

453
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: well they won ten, They've won sixteen straight games, like

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Speaker 1: what's seven more? So it's like it starts to becoming

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Speaker 1: a little more real. And I think the Steelers and Ravens,

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00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of any I think what's so cool

457
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Speaker 1: about these four teams? If you get a chance. There

458
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: was just an incredible article on Steve Spagnola on the

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Speaker 1: Athletic It was it Honestly, it kind of brings you

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Speaker 1: to tears at times talking about I mean, it goes

461
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: over his whole career but it spends a lot of

462
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Speaker 1: time about his relationship with this group since he showed up,

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Speaker 1: you know, in twenty nineteen, from L J. Snead to

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones to Nick Bolten and just some different incidents

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Speaker 1: like I mean, all these guys, I mean they tell

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Speaker 1: him they love him, like when they hang up their phone,

467
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: like I love you. I mean, these guys consider this

468
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: guy a dad. And you read this article, you're like,

469
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to see the Chiefs kind of got

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Speaker 1: some special going on. I mean, honestly, it moves you

471
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: emotionally reading about there. There was a moment which Sneeze

472
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Speaker 1: brother got stabbed and killed. And I mean Steve Spagnol

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Speaker 1: was the first guy called Chris Jones. The time they

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's powerful. But it's like it's pretty easy

475
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Speaker 1: to figure out why they're so good. And I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills got something special going on, and they've had

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Speaker 1: something special in the in the McDermott Allen era. But

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Speaker 1: even if you win this game for them, it's all

479
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: gonna be about you know, that's the thing about the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and this is really what they've done to these other

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Speaker 1: two teams, you know, the Steelers the Bills in the

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Speaker 1: Ravens have been viewed as Super Bowl contenders these last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. The Steelers have not. And this is

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Speaker 1: the first year. Like, you win this game and all

485
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, well, are they gonna be

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Speaker 1: like the two or three seed? It's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: the first time since two thousand and six Tomlin wins

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. Is this team gonna be for real?

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Speaker 1: Because unlike the Bills and the Ravens, they haven't had

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Speaker 1: the playoff success of recent But I think we all agree,

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Speaker 1: like TJ. Watt Championship Player, Cam Hayward Championship player, Mika

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00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick Championship level player, like their core guys on defense

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Speaker 1: or guys are like I'd be in the trenches with,

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00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: Like those guys are guys like on the Bills, on

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00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens, and on the Chiefs. In terms of like,

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00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: those guys are winners, even though I guess Cam Hayward has,

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00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: but you know, the other guys have not won playoff game.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really really excited, honestly the Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals, if they don't win this game

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Speaker 1: against the Chargers, like they're just not making the playoffs.

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00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: It's just a little too little, too late. Even though

502
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: you watch them, you're like, God, they got Joe Burrow

503
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: playing the best football of his life. They got Jamar Chase,

504
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: who's just an incredible player. And this type game where

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Speaker 1: Harbad just kind of ends seasons and all of a

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00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: sudden you look up and Harbaugh wins twenty five to ten,

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Speaker 1: and it kind of ends, you know, not like legitimately

508
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: on Monday, Zach Taylor is fired, but it's kind of

509
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: everyone acknowledges, Yeah, it's probably over for him. Harbaugh has

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00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of people fired over the years. That's

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Speaker 1: for damn sure. Okay, let's get in really quick before

512
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: we get out of here. Fugazi Friday. And this is

513
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: actually more of like, I just want to talk about

514
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: this guy in this situation. But most of you probably

515
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: don't fall like the radio industry that closely, and the

516
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: terrestrial radio business is in shambles, and people partly because

517
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: like their runs over right, it's completely changed, and it's

518
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: been like that the last three or four years. They

519
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: are not going to generate the revenue as they did

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00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: most of my life in the eighties. The nineties the

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00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: two thousands, when if you wanted advertise you went to them.

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00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Audio wise, obviously podcasts and even video podcast it's just

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00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: changed the game. They're fucked. It's over. Which as someone

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00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: that worked in it, it was very very clear to

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00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: me one that, like how they generated their revenue. It

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00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: was based on a couple meters in a market, even

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Speaker 1: if the market had millions of people that represented it

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00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like presidential polling. Uh, but that's how

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00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these big stations did millions upon

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00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: millions upon millions of dollars in revenue based off like, yeah,

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00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: we got three people with meters, so our ratings are

532
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: through the roof. It's like, wait, you got three people

533
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: representing two million people and you're getting twenty percent share

534
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: of the radio market and you can now sell at

535
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: premium rate? How does this make any sense? But forever

536
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: there weren't any other options. Podcasts didn't exist, YouTube didn't exist,

537
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: all this none of this stuff existed. So it's like

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00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: they just got all the money. And if you had

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00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: a successful station music as well, I mean think about music,

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00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: and I could tell when I was in radio, it's

541
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: like there had been like five years My last year

542
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: in radio was sixteen but by now, right, you have

543
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years of cars that are Bluetooth adaptable and

544
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: we listened everything on the phone, so they got no shot.

545
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: And radio has been firing people left and right, and

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00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: iHeart who were in business with I mean they're no different.

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00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they've adapted and changed and it's why

548
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: they're in business with podcasts. But in the Bay Area

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00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: CANBR which is a legendary station, and it's like for

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00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: those of you that live in the Northeast, it's like

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00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: the equivalent of WFAN. It is the powerhouse station in

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00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: the state of California. You can basically hear it from

553
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: the tip of California down to southern California all the

554
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: way to Lake Tahoe. It has an enormous signal. They

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00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: have their sports station, they have the Giants, they have

556
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: the Warriors, and they fired a couple guys, one John Lund,

557
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: who when I first got into the radio business after

558
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: leaving football, and just as a radio I've been a

559
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: radio connoisseur since I was very very young. I remember

560
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: listening to Loveline, which was a guy named doctor Drew

561
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: and Adam Carolla back in the nineties and they would

562
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Speaker 1: basically just have like porn stars, people call in about

563
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: their sex lives. It was so ahead of its time,

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00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: and it would be on from ten to midnight on

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00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: the West Coast and it was I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: the most incredible show I've ever heard in my life.

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00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Obviously I love sports talk too, but even then it

568
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: didn't totally exist. Really took off, like when I was

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Speaker 1: in junior high with Jim Rome. I remember being in

570
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Speaker 1: college the first time I ever heard Colin when he

571
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: went to ESPN and sportstock really took off. But the

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Speaker 1: Sportstok radio station in San Francisco had the San Francsco Giants,

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00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: which you know, starting in the mid nineties got Barry

574
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: Bonds and obviously one World Series in the San Franco

575
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: forty nine. Ers and player podcasts now are so big

576
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: and it's cool, right you get to hear these players,

577
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: like I was watching Saint Brown his podcast on Instagram

578
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: talking about his teammate that shited his pants. It's just

579
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: stuff that you wouldn't get, you know, it didn't even exist,

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00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: and it's just funny. It's cool. There have always been

581
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: players that made the jump and back before podcast happened,

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00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: and Tom Tolbert, who was fired. He's one of the

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00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 1: most legendary radio hosts in the history of sports talk radio.

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00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: He basically retired from the NBA, where he played in

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00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the NBA for a long time. He went to the

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00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: University of Arizona where he played for some legendary teams.

587
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: For Loud Olsen was teammates with Steve Kerr and he

588
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: played with Shack. He played for the Warriors when they

589
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: had like Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway. And he became

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00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: a radio host like right after he was right after

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: he retired and for twenty eight years on one of

592
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: the biggest radio stations in America. He hosted drive Time

593
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: and within the last twenty he was their biggest star

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00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: by a mile. And today he gave up his last show.

595
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: But I think what made like, I just remember listening

596
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: to him. Honestly, seeing that made me think of my dad,

597
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: because I didn't get my dad's truck. My entire life

598
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: without KNBR being on, and especially in the afternoon it

599
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: was Tom Tolbert and a guy named Ralph Barbieri. And

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00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, West Coast sports talk is a little different

601
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: than like when I lived in Philly. It's it's less aggressive,

602
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I think what made Tom unique is

603
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: he was this former player that was like best friends

604
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: with Steve Kerr and Steve Young and Brent Jones and

605
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said today, like you were kind of the

606
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan of sports talk. Like I would talk to you,

607
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: but I didn't feel like I was being interviewed. We

608
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: were just bullshitting, and you know, you see that die,

609
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of sad, Like I was lucky enough,

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00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: and I'm very I'm not that religious, but I do

611
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: feel blessed that it just happened in my life that

612
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: when I got fired from radio because the Raiders were

613
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: mad at me, and I got forced into the podcasting space,

614
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and it was early on I realized, like they're fucked,

615
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: and this is really something. And it's not like I

616
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: was some you know, on the forefront of some movement

617
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: like a bitcoin twenty years ago, going this is gonna

618
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: be something. I just kind of happened to me. And

619
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, you're like God. And obviously they were

620
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: growing then, but they're nothing like they have been the

621
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: last four or five years. And I kind of I

622
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: got a big time head start and seeing these radio

623
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: guys go down that you know, we're a huge part.

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00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean I used to after I left the other station,

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00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: I used to go on with Tom Tolbert and he

626
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: couldn't have been any cooler. And I hosted a ton

627
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: of shows with him and John Lunn, who was also

628
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: Great Papa's partner I worked with for years at ninety

629
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: five to seven The Game, and with him I saw

630
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: like how to be a pro, how to prepare, and

631
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: just also I think one thing I've learned from both

632
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: those guys is like to be successful in this medium,

633
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple go to things that

634
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: you have to have and I think Tom definitely has

635
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: this and John does too. Is like you can't really

636
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637
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645
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646
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648
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650
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Speaker 1: it's also sad, and it just the station can br

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652
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,920
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653
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654
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Speaker 1: completely over, and maybe not officially today, but like these

655
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657
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658
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660
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,080
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661
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,239
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662
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Speaker 1: it just accelerated that tenfold and it's just fucking wiped

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're hitting the home stretch here. Thanksgiving is right

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Speaker 1: around the corner. And Uh, It's like I say every week, Stucky,

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Speaker 1: I saw Ole Miss. They've already played ten games. I'm like, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice to win a big game. Kentucky

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Speaker 3: hasn't won, man, They won a couple last year. But

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Speaker 3: all over each other. For a regular season game, it's

725
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Speaker 3: a it's different here for Kentucky basketball. It's the only

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Speaker 3: sport in the state that people really care about, especially

727
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: now the football team is not doing well. So yeah,

728
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of excitement. It's a different kind of team,

729
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: Like there's not it's not just take five freshmen that

730
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Speaker 3: we're getting ready to ship off to the NBA. It's

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00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: a well coached team. Even like in the press conferences

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00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: after the games, Mark Folk talking about like all the

733
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Speaker 3: adjustments that they make and you know what they were

734
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Speaker 3: doing with their ball screen defense and the second things

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Speaker 3: like that, that's refreshing.

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Speaker 1: He's a former Kentucky player, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, something that cal just never did. He's he's really

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Speaker 3: highly endorsed by Patino. But he was at EU YU

739
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Speaker 3: in the countries. So I think he's a really good coach.

741
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Speaker 3: So at the bare minimum, it's a team that I

742
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: don't think we'll get embarrassed to completely out coach in

743
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: the tournament, and they don't. I don't think they necessarily

744
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: have national title upside, but I think that they can

745
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: make a run, which will be exciting for Lexington. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you It's very sad that we're already

747
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: at November fourteenth. Midway through November, it flies by. The

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00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: good thing is this weekend it's pretty good the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Last week it was pretty boring, just the games.

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Speaker 1: Afternoon games were terrible. Yeah, there's only.

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00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the four Eastern games one for you have been

752
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: They've been badly lately. But this weekend we have some

753
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: pretty good games. I mean, Chargers, Bengals, Bill's Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens.

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Speaker 1: So it looks like I could see the nine. I

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00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: could see nine or Seattle being entertaining too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some Seahawks will be good too, especially

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Speaker 3: if Metcalf plays.

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Speaker 1: I think you practice. I saw yesterday on Wednesday and Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but I bet he plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I like the forty nine are What scares

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Speaker 3: me is I'm I'm gonna bet Seattle if Metcalf plays,

762
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: it's a good spot for them. You know you're gonnaet.

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Speaker 3: They get the right tackle back, they should be fully

764
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Speaker 3: healthy on defense. They get two weeks to repair just

765
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Speaker 3: coming back across country. I expect, you know. I think

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Speaker 3: the buy is very valuable for the Seattle teams. They

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Speaker 3: have a new staff who I respect their head coach

768
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: McDonald and Grubb. So I think they'll have a really

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00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: good game plan here. It's kind of an all in effort.

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Speaker 3: What does scare me a bit is that the forty

771
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: Niners are very close to to like breaking out and

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00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: starting and we'll start to blow out some teams. I

773
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: don't honestly know if this is the spot, but like

774
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 3: they're eventually they're gonna start scoring in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: They have owned They have owned this team with Gino Smith,

776
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Speaker 1: with Pete and now Ryan Groub. I mean they they

777
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Speaker 1: fucking destroyed Geno Smith. They're five and er against them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's true. But I mean the first time

779
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: they played Seattle's in a bad spot. I mean it

780
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: was a short week after a short week before that.

781
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: They had all kinds of injuries. They were missing four

782
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: defensive starters. You know, they're right tackle, so they should

783
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: be in better shape. And this version of Seattle isn't

784
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: the same defense at least schematically that Shanahan would just

785
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: rip up. But the forty Niners are close, like they're

786
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna start scoring in the red zone there and then

787
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: this is usually when they turn it on. But they

788
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: just as right now they're just not doing all the

789
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: little things, which is which is preventing them from really

790
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: blowing anybody out. Like their special teams are really bad.

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Speaker 1: No, they're terrible. I mean really bad.

792
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Speaker 3: He made that kick because otherwise he's good. He was

793
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Speaker 3: getting cut.

794
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I you know, I had the

795
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: Niners last week on Sunday. I know, but you can

796
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: feel it early with them when it's like, oh, something's

797
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: a little off. I I do think adding McCaffrey back

798
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: and he looks pretty good, and even his quotes like

799
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: I feel fine, ready to go, we didn't treat him

800
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Speaker 1: any different, you know. I that addition to go with Mason,

801
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: if you get him healthy, it's a pretty good one

802
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: two combination. Juwan Jennings being back as a game changer

803
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: for them. But yeah, some they've just been something's just

804
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: been a little off. One thing will be interesting against

805
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: Seattle is Bosa, who you know, looked like Lawrence Taylor

806
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: in that Seattle game. He had hurt in practice last week.

807
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: He had a hit pointer and even he said it

808
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: was like really really uncomfortable. He's never really had that

809
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: in before. And he was a little off in the

810
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: Tampa game. No, so I mean, if he's one hundred

811
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: cent healthy, he's just a menace for Seattle and for

812
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, Like you can watch games with Gino. This

813
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Speaker 1: year is a bad example because Gino's played just kind

814
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815
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816
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Speaker 1: and like, go, damn, Gina looks excellent, and then against

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Speaker 1: the Niners he looks like a guy that everyone used

819
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Speaker 1: to make fun of. So like if they get if

820
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821
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Speaker 1: I don't care. The Niners have good dbs, but that's

822
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Speaker 1: a tough cover. But if he plays shitty like he

823
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Speaker 1: did in that game at home on Thursday, like they

824
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Speaker 1: just have no shot, that they have no shot, and

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Speaker 1: that's great. I feel bad. Like I've been rooting for

826
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Speaker 1: Ryan Grubb for a while. They show some clips sometimes

827
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Speaker 1: when he's coaching, his hands go over his head. When

828
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,520
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829
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,160
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830
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831
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Speaker 1: draft or doing something bold. Like to me, they're a

832
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: team to keep an eye on. I mean, their GM

833
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: sniffed around when he had Russell Wilson. Remember he tried

834
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: to trade him to the Browns for Josh Allen. Like

835
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: if you're like, oh damn, they've traded up to number

836
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: two to get cam Ward, which might be crazy or whatever,

837
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: but they're eventually going to do something bold.

838
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think with this staff too, that

839
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: kind of would fit their their moo. But for this weekend, Yeah,

840
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: metcalf is he's paramount the Seahawks. The shot Without him

841
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Speaker 3: against I mean almost against it and against most teams,

842
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Speaker 3: but especially the Kaudy Uners, you need his you need

843
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: his explosiveness. He still leads the NFL and deep targets

844
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: and he's missed the past couple of games. And then

845
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,520
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846
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: up everything else. Without him, Uh, it's it's a mess.

847
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: So that's certainly something to keep an eye on.

848
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, let's just dive right into some of the main events.

849
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, we have some fantastic matchups

850
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: on paper today. I mean these are could be Super

851
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: Bowl defining matchups. Right when it comes to seedings. I

852
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: would just hit me. You know, if you were the Bills,

853
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: you would have been you would rather have the Chiefs

854
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: win that game in dramatic fashion, so there's still nine

855
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: to zero and they still have a buffer over you.

856
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: Then lose that game, and then you know, you lose

857
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: two straight games. All of a sudden, you have the

858
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: same record as the Buffalo Bills, and depending on what

859
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: happens with the Steelers, all of a sudden, you're looking

860
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs. You've had this great season, you have

861
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: the same amount of losses. If you were to lose

862
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: in Buffalo as potentially Pittsburgh and obviously Buffalo, and it'd

863
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: be a problem. But now it's like, even if you

864
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: lose this game, like whatever, we still got a little buffer,

865
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: which actually is good for Buffalo, who needs to keep

866
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: winning for the seating. I think I told you last

867
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: week clearly, and I think everyone agrees that this team

868
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: is it's you. It's hard to be critical of them

869
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: because it's fucking remarks. When's the last time they lost? Christmas?

870
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve? Yeah? And I think over fifteen they've won

871
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: fifty team straight games, right, including the playoffs, they've been

872
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: I heard Nick wright say this. They've been an underdog

873
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: in five of those you know, the Niners is a

874
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: good example. Obviously twice all those you know, the Bills

875
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: and the Ravens playoff games, and then in this game.

876
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: But like, I actually, in a weird way, don't view

877
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: it as disrespect. I don't think anyone thinks they're not

878
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: like some in the midst of their dynasty. They're just

879
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: a flawed great. Like they have some issues. They struggle

880
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 1: to score, and I think we all saw that coming

881
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: in the Buffalo game, or I mean in the Denver

882
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: game that like there's a pretty good spot for Denver.

883
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: Now I didn't think it would be that close, but they,

884
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, great play at the end. My taking this

885
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: like I kind of just think, you know, are they

886
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: more likely to pull out this game and then lose

887
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: to Caroline or some crazy game, or they just inevitably

888
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: just gonna lose to a good team, right, because if

889
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: they lose to a good team, then I throw away

890
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: my theory of them losing to Carolina the following week, Right,

891
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: I bet you are with me on that. But like

892
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: this does feel like at Buffalo. I don't know, Buffalo

893
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: has played them well before, in the regular season. Yeah,

894
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: I can see them losing. So I mean, I don't

895
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: love minus two and a half, you know, Yeah, I

896
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: wish it was a little like one. But I don't know.

897
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: I just feel like, if you tell me Buffalo wins

898
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: this game like thirty to twenty, I think I think

899
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty realistic. And I don't even think that's an

900
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: indictment on the Chiefs. I still like them to have

901
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: a very good chance to win Super Bowl.

902
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. I had the Bill circle there for this game

903
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: to beat the Chiefs. But look, I bet the forty

904
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: nine ers minus one when we talk about that against

905
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, and I would bet it again. I mean

906
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: that all that receivers got hurt in the beginning of

907
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: the game that closed minus two and a half. And

908
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: now you're talking with the Bills are minus I had

909
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers power to ahead of the Bills,

910
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: and the Bills are dealing with injuries ahead of time.

911
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: We know about the injuries now, which is very concerning

912
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: because I do think I mean, this Chiefs team that, uh,

913
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: they can't keep getting away with this. They've I mean

914
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: they've won six or seven one possession games they beat

915
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 3: you know, they beat the Bucks in overtime, you win

916
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: that coin toss, You beat the Broncos on a blocked field.

917
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: What is this the mac midweek action?

918
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: Did you see the staff like them compared to the

919
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 1: I think it was like the seven pats that they threw,

920
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, early November. Already have more close games than

921
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: that team did all season long.

922
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you go back, and they've also benefited

923
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: from a ton of injuries. Like teams losing offensive linemen,

924
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: this forty nine is losing all their receivers. They played

925
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: the Bucks without Godwin and Evans. I mean, I could

926
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: go on and on and on.

927
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: I do you think the forty nine ers are a

928
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: bad example though, because they fucking always beat them. They

929
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: beat them season.

930
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 3: With you lose all your receivers and then what your

931
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: game plan was? That too? Like your game plan goes

932
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: out the window. They just had no chance. Where I

933
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: think that matters is that I think the Chiefs second

934
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: is very vulnerable and how many people are aware because

935
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: if you look at the numbers, they look really good,

936
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: but they lost the Jerry Snead in the offseason. Then

937
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: they lost Jalen Wattson, who's playing is one of the

938
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: best corners in the NFL, and his backup is terrible.

939
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: So your secondary, now, I think, is extremely vulnerable if

940
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: you play a competent fully healthy passing attack, which I

941
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: mean they haven't since Burrow Burrow tore him apart. I mean,

942
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 3: even the Falcons are moving the ball and then in

943
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 3: should have won and they had two starting offensive lineman

944
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: get hurt in the first half of that game, so

945
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 3: I think the second is very vulnerable. So I'm like

946
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, this is the spot. But the problem is

947
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: the Bills aren't fully healthy. You have you're gonna be

948
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: without Coleman and I don't We're recording this on a Thursday.

949
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: I Kinkaid is trending toward not playing, and Amari Cooper

950
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: might not play, and if he does, is gonna have

951
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: a cast. And then you're starting right tackle. Spencer Brown's

952
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: dealing with swelling and he doesn't know if he's going

953
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: to go. And that's the key is that you have

954
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: to be able to protect. And the Bills have a

955
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: really good pass protecting unit up front, but if they

956
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: don't have the right tackle to drop up, this replacement

957
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: is pretty big. And then you don't have Kincaid you

958
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: don't have Cooper, you don't have Coleman. I mean, what

959
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: are we doing here? And this lins two and a

960
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: half and you're going up against the Chiefs who are

961
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: twelve one and one against the spread under Mahomes is

962
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: an underdog twelve one and one pretty remarkable. The only

963
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: loss of the enough, as you alluded to, was against

964
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 3: the Bills two years ago when the Bills were thick

965
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: minus two in Kansas City and one twenty four to twenty.

966
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: But I can't get here. I wanted to bet the Bills.

967
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: I think the Bills win if they're relatively healthy, but

968
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: I have to keep an eye on the injury report

969
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: because if they're not without if they're without Kincaid, Coleman,

970
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: Cooper and their right tackle, and the Chiefs run the

971
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: I think is legitimately and realistically improved. Uh, it's tough

972
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: to go against my Homes. Think two and a half here.

973
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: That one the Cooper injury. Obviously, you know it's a

974
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: plug and play player who's really good and then he

975
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: hurts his wrists and just kind of been in my

976
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: A is not an ideal situation for them, righteah.

977
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: And if he plays with a cast or I don't

978
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: than he can't catch Allen's rockets, Like I don't know

979
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: you it's tough. So I agree with you that if

980
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: the Bills win, I mean, if the Chiefs win, the

981
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: spot is next week Panthers off the by I.

982
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: Mean, do you get a number to be bigger than

983
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: the Jags at the lines right now? Plus four plus

984
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: thirteen on DraftKings, it is, right, the biggest line of

985
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: the year. Does that line eclipse that or not? Really?

986
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: Chief probably not because it's in the year offense.

987
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: Could you see that being like eleven twelve?

988
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: I mean the Chiefs. It's hard like the Chiefs, and

989
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: then it's like not an indoor Let's say Panthers are

990
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: coming off, but bye, I would make it. Yeah, some

991
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: are somewhere around Ken and I yeah a half eleven.

992
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Okay, you've you've made me nervous on the Bills. The

993
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: injuries are a problem. Let's let's go to the other

994
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: heavyweight fight. You've topped me this over the years. This

995
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: is just primetime Tomlin at home as a dog. I mean,

996
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: they you know, you watch them last week, and really

997
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: since Russell's been there, they just can't really be argued.

998
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: There's just a new element to their passing game. He's

999
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: more willing to throw it to. I mean, George Pickens

1000
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: has dominated since he's got in the game winner to

1001
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, who just showed up. They lose high Smith,

1002
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: but they had just traded like that. I think that

1003
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Preston Smith trade for nothing. Actually, they gotta feel a

1004
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: lot better about that coming into this week, right, And

1005
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, this game is just their records are kind

1006
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: of whether they were both with zero and zero or

1007
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: whether this was week seventeen and they were to know

1008
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: each it doesn't matter. I mean, this thing is gonna

1009
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: be a fucking war zone. I just how do you

1010
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: not take the Steelers plus three in this spot? I mean,

1011
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: the Ravens pass defense has been atrocious. The one thing

1012
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: with the Steelers that Russell got there, their running backs

1013
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: have looked really dynamic. I feel like since I don't

1014
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: know if they're a little healthier, Na She's I think

1015
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: played the best football of his career like these last

1016
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: four weeks. Jalen clearly looks healthy, you know better than anyone.

1017
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: It is hard. The one thing the Ravens do do

1018
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: is play well against the run. But I would imagine

1019
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Russell's lollipops outside the numbers, like they're going to be

1020
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive. I don't know if it's quite Joe Burrow

1021
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase, but throwing the ball as something that

1022
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: they definitely feel more competent doing. This is a huge

1023
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: game for Baltimore, right because if the Steelers win, and

1024
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: essentially have they have two losses and they've beat you

1025
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: and you got four, I'm obviously very confident that the

1026
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Ravens probably end up being the five seed. I guess

1027
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: depending on what happens with the Chargers, it could be

1028
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: the six, but it'd be a big spot because of

1029
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: that that Raider game would really come back to bite

1030
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: you in the ass. I think there's added motivation here

1031
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: for Baltimore just given the record, let alone obviously the

1032
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: opponent and your bit of rivalry. But I like the

1033
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: Steelers plus a gay Honestly, I kind of like him

1034
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: to win this game.

1035
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe taking the points here. Toman is

1036
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 3: a home dog in his career twenty six and one

1037
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: against the spread, and if you look at this rivalry

1038
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: since Harball arrived in Baltimore in two thousand and eight,

1039
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: in this matchup when either team is favored by three

1040
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: or more, they have gone the favorite has gone two

1041
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: eighteen and three against the spread. That's say one more time,

1042
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 3: two wins, eighteen losses, and three pushes as a favorite

1043
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: or three and more. That's a ten percent cover rate.

1044
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: So underdogs of three or more in this matchup since

1045
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight of at least a field goal

1046
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 3: eighteen two and three. Harball himself as a favorite of

1047
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 3: three or more is oh ten and two is never

1048
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: covered as a favorite of three or more. And if

1049
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: you look at this, how close this matchup has been.

1050
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: They've played thirty two regular season games since Harball has arrived.

1051
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: Twenty six have been decided by one possession, over half

1052
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: by three or less. Over those thirty two games, they're

1053
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: separated by twelve total points, average score nineteen point six

1054
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 3: to nineteen point two. There's so much familiarity. Yeah, it's

1055
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: it's insane. There's so much familiarity, there's so much hate.

1056
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: It'll and just always finds a way to be close.

1057
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson has also struggled against the Steelers more than

1058
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 3: why do you think that is? Well, they have I

1059
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: mean the number one. There's familiarity so like his speed

1060
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: is not gonna shock them, you know. Shot Like that's

1061
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: Lamar's record versus the NFC is so good. The Steelers

1062
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: usually have a good defensive game plan. They also have

1063
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: a really good defensive game plans for more mobile quarterbacks,

1064
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 3: which you saw last week against Daniels, who didn't really

1065
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: do much. He had his worst game of his career.

1066
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 3: I mean the score won't show it, but he didn't

1067
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 3: do much in that game. Lamar's one in three. He's

1068
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: missed some games with injuries, but he's won in three

1069
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: against the Steelers. Four touchdowns, seven interceptions, five fumbles, fifty

1070
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: nine percent completion rate, sixty six passive rating, sacked twenty times.

1071
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: So you also have those it's the high Smith that

1072
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 3: we missed a bit, but they do have some depth there,

1073
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: and you mentioned they added Smith, but his loss does

1074
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 3: heard of it. But you have those edge rushers.

1075
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: He's good and really good at there. He might be

1076
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: the best second rusher in the league, you know.

1077
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's not immateial, but they yeah, they know

1078
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: how to get after quarterbacks and they know how to

1079
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: blitz mobile quarterbacks. So yeah, they just they seen the

1080
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: Avamar's number. Now I will say so, I wouldn't blame

1081
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: you for taking the points here, and I'm a Ravens fan.

1082
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: I also like the under. I think this is too

1083
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: high for raven Steelers game at like forty eight and

1084
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: a half forty nine. The Ravens offense is like it's

1085
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: trending towards best of all time territory. But like I

1086
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: just mentioned, Steelers know how to defend this offense, and

1087
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: the Ravens they have the best run defense in the NFL.

1088
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: That's like what the Steelers want to base everything off of.

1089
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: And this the Ravens have major issues in the secondary,

1090
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: particularly at safety and on the back end defending in

1091
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: the middle of the field. The Steelers don't throw over

1092
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: the middle of the field like russ Is just there's

1093
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: just nothing there. It's a void. You never had to

1094
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: run the ball and then toss it down the sidelines.

1095
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: It's not the most sustainable offense. They've been really good

1096
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: hitting those long deep shots, but that's not been the

1097
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: Ravens weakness down the sidelines. But it's on the note

1098
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: which does scare me a bit, is that Kyle Hamilton.

1099
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: You don't know if he's gonna play. It's one of

1100
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: the best defenders in the NFL. You can use him

1101
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 3: at safety. They use them at edge, linebacker, slot corner,

1102
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: so he would be missed. But I think that this

1103
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: lot stak high stakes, a lot of familiarity. I think

1104
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: this total is too high. Even with how well the

1105
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: Ravens offense has played and how well the Steelers offense

1106
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: is played of late, I think this game will probably

1107
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: be in the low twenties. Like I'm going to say,

1108
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: like twenty three twenty somebody.

1109
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: Well, Hamilton, who I think if as we're sitting here today,

1110
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: I think it would be safe to assume he doesn't play.

1111
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Yeah, he's the second lead He's he's

1112
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: our second leading tackler. And you could say, well, their

1113
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: secondary is terrible. He makes a lot, but he clearly

1114
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: plays near the line of scrimmage a lot, and it's

1115
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: just an excellent player around the lot, you know. I mean,

1116
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: he's an incredible open field tackler. He can shift essentially

1117
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: into a linebacker, and he's essentially the second linebacker with

1118
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith a lot in the run game. So you

1119
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: remove him, you know, Patrick Queen is now on the Steelers, right,

1120
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: So I mean that was does that change their ability

1121
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: to stop the run against a team that has been

1122
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: running the ball pretty effectively. Like that is at a

1123
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: little you know advantage Steelers with with him out of

1124
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: the game.

1125
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll hurt, it aren't in multitude of ways just

1126
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: not having him on the field. He's just such a playmaker,

1127
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: like defending screens, rushing the passer on like.

1128
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: He's just stu I mean, he's like a Hall of Famer.

1129
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's certainly something the watch. But taking

1130
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: the points just what you do in this matchup.

1131
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: Do you think this is if Tomalin, if they win

1132
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: this game, they just win this game, would you feel confidence,

1133
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: say the Ravens are probably not going to win the division?

1134
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: Or do you think it's still there's a lot of

1135
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: football left to be played and you don't totally trust

1136
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: Russ Or is that pretty big, insurmountable couple of games.

1137
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: No, I think that they they would sell sell a

1138
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: pretty good shot. I mean the Steelers there, their schedule

1139
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: now gets difficult. I mean they've they've played some clowns all.

1140
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Year, and.

1141
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: Like now they play all their division games now. So

1142
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 3: you have the Bengals twice, the Ravens twice. You have

1143
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 3: the Watson, which yeah, won't won't be easy rivalry game,

1144
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: and then you're not on divisional games are against are

1145
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: at Philly and home against the Chiefs, so.

1146
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 4: It's not the chief is Chiefs game the last game

1147
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: of the season now second to last, which okay, so

1148
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: the Chief's still playing Chiefs probably still playing for something

1149
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: that cames on Netflix, by the way, and.

1150
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: On Christmas.

1151
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: Christmas. Yeah, so yeah, I don't think they're completely done.

1152
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 3: They'll also get them back. They'll get the cheap they'll

1153
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: get the don't get the Ravens, they'll get the the

1154
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: Raves will get the Steeers at home later in the year,

1155
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: the game before that Chiefs game. So yeah, they won't

1156
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: be completely done. This Steers schedule is brutal the rest

1157
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 3: of the way.

1158
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I felt pretty good about this. I don't. Yeah,

1159
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: I gotta be careful with these, but I got I

1160
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: got pretty aggressive on a little afternoon parlay last Sunday,

1161
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: and it was I felt pretty good about the Eagles

1162
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: killing the Cowboys, you know, about about noon my time,

1163
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: and I was looking at that Jets cardinal line. I'm like,

1164
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm just shortened the Jets. I don't know, like, I

1165
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 1: didn't expect the Cardinals to look that good. I didn't

1166
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: even Hell, you don't even know quite what you're gonna get.

1167
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: Maybe they are just good this year. But I was like,

1168
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna hammer Cardinals, Eagles's let's fucking roll.

1169
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: And it was awesome. It was it felt good. No sweat,

1170
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: no sweat. I mean, that's that's as good. Honestly, it's

1171
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: not even it's fun once the money comes in. But

1172
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: I do like a little action, you know about you know,

1173
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: I like being on the edge of my seat. And

1174
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: I was not lsu do that to me on Saturday night.

1175
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: It's like it was over before I could even have

1176
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: any fun. It just makes you mad. But I do

1177
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: think the philosophy moving forward, if you're just like, unless

1178
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: you're the let's say Panthers, Giants, this version of Cowboys,

1179
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: there might be four or five teams that I would

1180
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: just stay away, but basically anyone else if you're giving me,

1181
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: like over a touchdown the Colts and not listen Anthony

1182
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Richson's back, Why couldn't Anthony Richdons and Jonathan Taylor? Why

1183
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: doesn't Shane Sykein just steal the Malik Willis Green Bay

1184
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Packers Week two game plan and just go, these guys

1185
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: are gonna have a combined thirty five carries and we're

1186
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 1: gonna shove it down the Jets throat. I just don't

1187
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: see how you don't hammer the Colts here in the spot, Like,

1188
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm just betting against the Jets, and I think if

1189
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: you had done that, someone DM me said that he

1190
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: did it in the preseason because they were favored in

1191
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: like thirteen of the seventeen games or whatever, and he

1192
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: put one hundred dollars on everyone in August and he's

1193
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: up like seven hundred dollars. So it's like, I just think,

1194
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: if you just take the logic, just bet against the Jets,

1195
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: so you could argue that's one of my favorite bets

1196
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: on the board is Colts plus four at the Jets.

1197
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: Who I don't know if they went one, two, three

1198
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,479
Speaker 1: can coon, but they feel like you get down seven

1199
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: to nothing. They got quit written all over them.

1200
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually I played the Jets last season, one

1201
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 3: of the worst NFL bets I've ever made, and they

1202
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: look like they credit but twenty six messed tackles that was.

1203
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: Their defense is objectively bad.

1204
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the defensive front is way worse the injuries

1205
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: at linebacker. I think that the the change to Anthony Richardson,

1206
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: who one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks I've ever seen,

1207
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 3: is a positive for this particular matchup, and because the Colts.

1208
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: If you look at the data, the Colts run game

1209
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: is so much more efficient when Richardson is in the

1210
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: game of quarterback compared to Flacco. Look at Tailor's efficiency numbers.

1211
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: They go through the roof. Why, Well, you have a

1212
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: quarterback you have to worry about that can run, not

1213
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: the statue of Joe Flacco. So and that's how you

1214
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: want to attack this jetscene. They can't stop the run.

1215
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: And a November game when you're out of it, are

1216
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: they really gonna like? It's probably be a lot more mistackles?

1217
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: And you're right, where are they? Mentally? This is a

1218
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 3: team that was expected to compete for a Super Bowl.

1219
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 3: The missing piece was Aaron Rodgers, a healthy Aaron Rodgers.

1220
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 3: Well that hasn't been the case. There's their defense is

1221
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: falling apart. Robert Salad must be just sipping wine. Oh

1222
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 3: my watching this.

1223
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean, sauce looks pretty bad. I mean the tackle,

1224
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: but he fell off on Trey McBride was like, this

1225
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: is supposed to be one hundred million dollar corner. I mean,

1226
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: that's that's all.

1227
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: It's all falling apart. So I and yeah, where that. Mentally,

1228
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: there's no leadership, there's no direction, there's no identity on offense,

1229
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: and now you're sitting at three and seven. You're essentially cooked, Like, yeah,

1230
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 3: do they show up here? I don't know. I expect

1231
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: the Colts to show now. The one concern I have

1232
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 3: with the Colts is Bernard Raymond, their starting left tackle,

1233
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: who went out with an injury last week, and then

1234
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 3: his backup came in, Gon Calvis and gave up a

1235
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: sack strip that helped flip that game, sap strip bumble

1236
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: that the Bills recovered. I think he's gonna miss so

1237
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: he could have the Colts had other injuries in the offensive.

1238
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: You got have three rookies starting on the offensive line

1239
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: and a rookie quarterback or I mean basically rookie quarterback.

1240
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: We started four games last year on the road.

1241
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: Do you think that's part of why they're putting richardson back?

1242
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: Is Like, obviously the running, but just if we have

1243
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: bad offensive linemen, we need a guy that can move.

1244
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: Flacco can't move at all.

1245
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've handled this whole thing terribly. Because I have

1246
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: a lot of respect for Shane Stiking, but like last

1247
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: week he said he doesn't know the future, then this

1248
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: week he said, Anthony Richardson is our franchise quarterback and

1249
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: is the future.

1250
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: Like it's been, it's been weird. It's been weird.

1251
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if like Ers is driving this bus,

1252
01:06:55,080 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: which would make more sense, but because it doesn't seem

1253
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 3: to have really his bus is kind of shaky.

1254
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: Well do you agree? Once he tapped out and then

1255
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: like Ryan Kelly and the guys, like I do think

1256
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: they're it was out of their hands. Like I think

1257
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: the guys were like this fucking bullshit, right, Yeah, give

1258
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: him one game and it was clear like Flacco might

1259
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: not really have and just go back to him. Would

1260
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: you have put him played him against the Bills last week?

1261
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?

1262
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I or just the way that they

1263
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: handled there, like a week you know, Flacco is our guy.

1264
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 3: I mean maybe they're just there trying to, you know,

1265
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: squash all the questions in controversy. But yeah, we'll see

1266
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,959
Speaker 3: how Richardson responds like mentally with his his confidence and

1267
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: how he looks. But the game plan here has to

1268
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 3: be the Jets run defense is legitimately terrible. We have

1269
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 3: Taylor Richardson run, run, run and run some more. And

1270
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 3: and just if this Jets defense is in quiitmo, then

1271
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: the Colts are going to win this game out right

1272
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: pretty easily just doing that. So yeah, I don't mind

1273
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: the Colts here as well. My my favorite be my

1274
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: favorite bet on the car for what it's where there

1275
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: is Browns plus one. I think off the buy. You

1276
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: you look, the NFL injuries have been so bad this year.

1277
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 3: You know one team does no injuries that I can

1278
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 3: trust this week. I shouldn't say I trust them, but

1279
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: I know I trust Their injury situation is the Browns.

1280
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: Browns have no one on their injury report.

1281
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: Now.

1282
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: They did trade aways at Aaria Smith j Okay, they're

1283
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 3: all pro linebacker is on ir but their defense is

1284
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 3: still pretty good. Will be healthy out of the by.

1285
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 3: Their offensive line is fully healthy. Nick Chubb out of

1286
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: the buy should be fully oppy. You can run on

1287
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 3: the Saints. Janis going back to New Orleans. I think

1288
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 3: he'll have He'll be given some crazy, weird speeches. They'll

1289
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 3: have this team fired up. And the Saints just they're

1290
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: they're not any good. I met them last week, talked

1291
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 3: about it the CA new coach bump with the Riz.

1292
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 3: But they were very lucky in that game. I don't

1293
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: know how sustainable the offensive chucking deep to mvs's who

1294
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 3: missed three field goals. They gave up five hundred yards

1295
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: of offense.

1296
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: And looks like Ken Shamrock or something doesn't.

1297
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: Amazing, it's amazing, Like I'm a big fan of him.

1298
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 3: But I think it's a good spot for the Browns.

1299
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: They say that no receivers, they'd no d backs left,

1300
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: their defense is terrible. And then here's the thing. One

1301
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: of the reasons I bet Car last week is that

1302
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, look, I know he has no receivers, like

1303
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 3: legitimately it was it was MVS. And I don't I

1304
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 3: forget who their second leading receiver was last week, like

1305
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 3: non tight end or running back. But he's not gonna

1306
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: under pressure. The Falcons can't get any pressure. Well that's different.

1307
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: Now he is offensive line and he's going against Myles

1308
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: garretting up against a rookie. The Browns are gonna bring

1309
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 3: pressure they can get pressure, and then what what what's

1310
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 3: car are gonna do? Like, and you're gonna rely on

1311
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: nvs getting open down. You're not gonna have time.

1312
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: To get you for him to just run on the team.

1313
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: When I looked up at the box, it's all I'm

1314
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: hit the bomb. I I honestly didn't wasn't sure who

1315
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: it was.

1316
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean that was that was amazing, But

1317
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how sustainable it is. I mean, it's

1318
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: cars are a bad spot right now. His offensive line's hurt.

1319
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 3: And then a lave's on I R. Shaheed is on

1320
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 3: I for the year? Yeah, out for the year. Bove

1321
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 3: means looked, okay, he's on I R. You're down to

1322
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 3: Mason Tipton, who guy went to.

1323
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: Yale, never of him?

1324
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: And then MBS and then this guy Jermaine Jackson and

1325
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 3: doesn't have a catch. He's from Idaho, five to seven guy,

1326
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: he might be starting, And then like Cedric Wilson, like

1327
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: that's those are your receivers. That's the one of the

1328
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: worst receiving corps I've ever seen in the NFL. So uh,

1329
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna be under pressure? Is your offensive

1330
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: line isn't healthy, So I like, I like the Brown Skits.

1331
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 3: But back to your point, I I think it's perfectly

1332
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: fine to make the Jets prove that they care and

1333
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 3: that they can win by margin er that will win

1334
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 3: by more than a field goal.

1335
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: What's your take on the interim OC bump for Bears

1336
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,959
Speaker 1: five and a half hosting the Packers.

1337
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: There's the Bears and then there's the Raiders too. I

1338
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 3: think the Raiders are gonna go super run heavy, even

1339
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 3: though I don't think that'll work. So I don't mind

1340
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: like betting.

1341
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: Both interim ocs are getting you know, the Raiders are

1342
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: getting over a touchdown and the Bears that's actually been

1343
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: bet down. It was like six and a half now

1344
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: it's five and a half. Uh, both of them. I

1345
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: guess the Raiders on the road Miami coming off short week,

1346
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: Raiders coming off of bye Bears just kind of a joke.

1347
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: The Packers coming off of bye huh yeah.

1348
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: And Lafloy has been really good off the Bye Love

1349
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: should be healthier. Road favorites off the buy historically have

1350
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: been really good about sixty percent against the spread, but

1351
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 3: this line was too high just on the surface, like

1352
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 3: power numbers by like six, six and a half at Chicago,

1353
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: Like that's super high. But do you want to back

1354
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 3: the Bears. So that there's two new ocs this week,

1355
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 3: I think both are conducive potentially to unders in. I

1356
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: think the Raiders is gonna go super runny. That's what

1357
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: Antwonop Pierce wants to do. It's like play defense, run

1358
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 3: the ball, kickfield goals. So I assume that they want

1359
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 3: to go even more run heavy, but they just can't

1360
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: run the ball. They also have offensive line injuries. In

1361
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 3: regards to the Bears, we saw I mean gets he

1362
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: was terrible, but a lot of this passed to be

1363
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: on Caleb. He's and the offensive line has had injuries.

1364
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: That's something to watch that they could be without a

1365
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: couple guys, so we'll have to keep an eye there.

1366
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: But He's He's, Caleb has kind of lost the plot.

1367
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: And if you look at I mean, you sacked nine

1368
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 3: times against the Paid, its team is not getting pressure

1369
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: and part some of that was the offensive line, but

1370
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 3: a lot of that was him holding the ball too

1371
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 3: long and not taking the easy throw, and some of

1372
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: that was the play design as well. So with their

1373
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator, he was at Carolina last year and

1374
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 3: when he took over, they went a bit slower. But

1375
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: there's there's a there is like some element of surprise here.

1376
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 3: Even though at the Packers. He saw him last year

1377
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: at Carolina it didn't go well. It wasn't he wasn't

1378
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 3: a great play caller. But I don't think it can

1379
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: be much worse. The keys to watch here are one

1380
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: and them barrass For what it's worth, they if they're

1381
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 3: zero to ten straight up and against the spread. Over

1382
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 3: their past ten meetings against the Packers, they haven't won

1383
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: or covered one time, and they've been awful in the division.

1384
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: Part of that is that they're just at a coaching

1385
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 3: disadvantage every week.

1386
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: It's hard to do in these division games. I bet

1387
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: if we just did a study on all the shitty

1388
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: teams over the last ten games against divisional opponent, it's one.

1389
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: The only one that happens is uh, Broncos Chiefs. But

1390
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 3: the Broncos obviously covered last week. But the Broncos, the

1391
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: Chiefs have won like, man, when was the last time

1392
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: the Chiefs beat the Broncos? Uh? I want to say, like.

1393
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: You're saying the Broncos have lost to the Chiefs, like

1394
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: fourteenth straight times or something.

1395
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like ten years in a row.

1396
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: Belichick against the Jets for a while.

1397
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean it's just stunning how much they've

1398
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: gone to do the Bear. I think you do not

1399
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: have to assume the Bears show up and care. It's

1400
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 3: like a the division rival at home against the Packers.

1401
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: But they've looked. I don't know what's going on there.

1402
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,759
Speaker 1: They got some they got some Jets vibes to them.

1403
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: It's different, and it's not like they're old in quitting.

1404
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: It just feels like they're young and kind of like

1405
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: DJ Moore hates Caleb. They got some weird shit going on.

1406
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's rumors that some of the players want to

1407
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: tale benched. There's their whole Dj More saga. The then

1408
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: you have the Stevenson thing when he was taunting the crowd,

1409
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 3: and everything is falling apart since that play. And then

1410
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: they went out to Arizona, got their doors blown off.

1411
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 3: They look like they quit. He would assume coming home

1412
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 3: against the Patriots, but they would bounce back. No, they

1413
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 3: look like they quit there too. There was no there

1414
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,480
Speaker 3: was nothing they didn't I mean, it was embarrassing.

1415
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: So from gave Nate Davis a bunch of money last year.

1416
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: He's been injured a bunch and it was like being

1417
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: healthy scratches, they just cut them like that's your classic,

1418
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,759
Speaker 1: Like hey, we're showing people this is not tolerated clearly,

1419
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: like he wasn't buying in. It's like, yeah, a little

1420
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: too late there, guys.

1421
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also don't think that they like the

1422
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 3: players like love Eberflus, But last week, I mean, that

1423
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: was one of the most embarrassing efforts I've ever seen

1424
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 3: from a team. They average two point four yards per play.

1425
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: That's like, this isn't a good Patriots Stephen. They have

1426
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: all kinds of injuries too. That's like like Kent State

1427
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: with a fourth string quarterback on a rainy night and

1428
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, on the road in the MAC on a Wednesday,

1429
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 3: like that two point four yards per play with all

1430
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: those weapons that you have, I know you had offensive

1431
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 3: line injuries nine sacks. I mean that is so the

1432
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: line is just on the surface is too high. Like

1433
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 3: I've had plenty of success over twenty years been in

1434
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: the NFL, just bilows sell high. The general principle, you know,

1435
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: these teams are never as bad as or as good

1436
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: as they look, the NFL market tends to overreact to

1437
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 3: these data points. But sometimes there are teams that it's

1438
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, bad vibes, like I couldn't bet the pack,

1439
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,759
Speaker 3: I couldn't lay six here on the road, just based

1440
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 3: on where my numbers are. But yeah, there's just sometimes

1441
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 3: there's his teams that you're better off staying away from.

1442
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 3: There was many times in the past. It took me

1443
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: a while to learn that there's many times in the past.

1444
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 3: I used to lose a ton of money. Oh wea's

1445
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 3: betting these bad Browns teams like the Freddy Kitchens and

1446
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: then going back and that we're just disasters. But my

1447
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: numbers would say to play them, and they just would

1448
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 3: never still never cover. The Bears might just be in

1449
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 3: a really bad spot and then if they get behind early,

1450
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: that's when it could just get ugly. So I don't

1451
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 3: think either offensive coordinator this week is going to provide

1452
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: a huge bump, but I think both could. I think

1453
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: the Bears defense will show up, so I don't mind

1454
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: the under there. I think it'll be low scoring. The

1455
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: Bears offense are now it is just broken, and then

1456
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 3: you have a new play caller. How much are you

1457
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: fixing in a week. The offensive line still has injuries,

1458
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 3: Caleb still looks lost. You have all these guys run happy.

1459
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 3: I I don't know. The Bears are nothing, but I

1460
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 3: would bet the under if I had it at the game.

1461
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: Like the Raiders plus seven jumped out to me. You

1462
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: got them coming off of bye? You got Miami short week?

1463
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: Are they as good as the team we just saw

1464
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: on defense? I mean the Rams offense is a little

1465
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,879
Speaker 1: off right now. I mean they've scored one offensive touchdown

1466
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: over the last couple of games. I mean one of

1467
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: those touchdowns against Seattle was a pick six. But I

1468
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: would just struggle betting on the Raiders. You know, It's like,

1469
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: what you're going seven points? Like little boost. It's like

1470
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think I could do. It's just a

1471
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: stay away, even though I feel that's the bet. You know,

1472
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: Like I kind of like the Titans this week against Minnesota,

1473
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: but it's like, I am I really doing this? I

1474
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: have been on the Titans too many times.

1475
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's donning that this year, there's it's there,

1476
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: there are I'm having my worst NFL season and forever

1477
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 3: because there's some of these teams that I've been backing

1478
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 3: in spots, and I do somebody to catch up to

1479
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: how bad they owner. I mean, the Titans have covered

1480
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: one game all year like this. This stuff just doesn't.

1481
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: If you watch him, they don't. They're not that bad.

1482
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: You're like they should be able to could And.

1483
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,839
Speaker 3: I mean, but I've never seen this many bad teams.

1484
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 3: The teams that are just in disarray in a conference

1485
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 3: in the AFC, which was so strong, Like the Tits

1486
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 3: are disarrayed because what are they doing at the quarterback position?

1487
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: Like they don't know? The Jags disarray.

1488
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, like do you think there's value there? You know,

1489
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: getting almost two touchdowns? That's a insane line. They just

1490
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: lost twelve to seventeen to Minnesota.

1491
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they lost. They lost twelve to seven. They should

1492
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: have lost or twelve seven nothing. They should have lost

1493
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: thirty nothing in that game. I mean, Darnold threw three

1494
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 3: red zone picks. The Vikings had thirty first downs to

1495
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's ten. The yardage was four h two to one forty.

1496
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: The Jags average three yards per play. It was ugly.

1497
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: They just got really lucky.

1498
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: You see Doug after the game on Mac Jones' interception

1499
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: where he's like.

1500
01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, that was he looks checked out. This This

1501
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: could be it for him. I mean the Buys coming

1502
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: up too, that would be the time. I couldn't bet

1503
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 3: the Jags here. No that the lines have been a

1504
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 3: wagon in these spots, but I'm not laying thirteen and

1505
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 3: a half. That's that's ridiculous that number. But but the Raiders, Jags, Titans, Jets, Browns, Patriots,

1506
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: Colts all in some form or fashion, like what's going

1507
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 3: on with the franchise right now, that's basically half the AFC.

1508
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, it would be Raiders are nothing, but it's

1509
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: a stay away. The Titans. Yeah, I think the line

1510
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: is a bit too high, but I can't play them

1511
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: this week from matchup perspective because Will Levis against the

1512
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: blitz and against pressure has been a disaster. He's the

1513
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 3: lowest rated quarterback against the blitz and against pressure. Well,

1514
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: the Vikings lead the NFL and pressure and blitz rate.

1515
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: So him against Flores, how many mistakes is he gonna make? Now?

1516
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: You could just have a Sam Donald Pumpkin game where

1517
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 3: he's just matching Levis and they're just going pumpkin for pumpkin,

1518
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,839
Speaker 3: and then you'll have a shot. But I can't trust Levis,

1519
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: Yeah against Flores and the blitz and the pressure, and

1520
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to rely on the run.

1521
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 3: Like that's Tennessee's able to move the ball, but when

1522
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 3: they can run on the rummy, you can't really run

1523
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: on Minnesota. You gotta have a competent quarterback and you

1524
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,839
Speaker 3: gotta be able to deal with pressure to attack their secondary,

1525
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: which is their weakness. The Titans don't have that, so

1526
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 3: that's a pass. I actually don't mind betting the Rams

1527
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: on the bounce back in New England. Sean McVay has

1528
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 3: been superb on short breast and then one against the spread.

1529
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 3: It's like a good bounce backspot for them if they're

1530
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 3: getting embarrassed in a month and I know it's short

1531
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 3: week across the country, but they're gonna get a ton

1532
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 3: of pressure. I mean, Jared Verse, he's I mean the

1533
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 3: fact that you gotta give Snead and the front office

1534
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 3: crewd they keep finding this defensive lineman and they don't

1535
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 3: have a ton of draft capital and they've been able

1536
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: to hit on all of them. Yard versus leads the

1537
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 3: NFL and pressure rate, Yeah, they're gonna be able to

1538
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 3: get pressure on man, I think force them into mistakes,

1539
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: and I don't think that the Patriots defense can slow

1540
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 3: down the Rams. The Rams, like the fort Guns, are

1541
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: eventually gonna start scoring in the red zone now that

1542
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: they have cup Nikua and a fully and we have

1543
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 3: a lot of data that says with this offense fully healthy,

1544
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 3: they're really good. Last week, you get two of your

1545
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 3: offensive linement back. It was a mass up front. They

1546
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 3: just didn't spend I think more they got full game,

1547
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 3: they got game reps. Still look better this week. It's

1548
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 3: not a Patriots defense that gets pressure unless they're playing

1549
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 3: the Bears. So I like the Rams to bounce back.

1550
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: But I wrote that game down as well. The Rams

1551
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: defense is good. I mean you just watch team speed. Yeah,

1552
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: they're they're physical, they tackle well. But for whatever reason

1553
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: that that offense is just off. Okay, I get you

1554
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: out of here on this. I looked at the College Sleigh.

1555
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: I really had nothing. Any Is there a game that

1556
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: you love on Saturday kind of a week week in

1557
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: terms of you know, high level matchups if you remove

1558
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: Georgia Tennessee, which honestly might not be great either. Carson

1559
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: Beck looks like shit, and Nico's injured. Not that he's

1560
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: been great either, but yeah, I don't know. I mean,

1561
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: one thing I did see, I mean, these odds aren't

1562
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: great relative to what you could have got five weeks ago,

1563
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: but I don't think you would have placed this bet

1564
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: five weeks ago is you can get Colorado to make

1565
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which obviously just have to win out and

1566
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: win the Big Twelve Championship against against probably Yu. I

1567
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: bet on them. I had a decent sized wager on Saturday,

1568
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: so I was pretty dialed into that game. Obviously it

1569
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: was a little nervous early, but in a weird way,

1570
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel pretty good this team can

1571
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty good, you know, especially relative to

1572
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. Like their D line's good. Obviously offensively,

1573
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean everyone you know Shador and Travis Hunter, but

1574
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: number fourteen, the wide receivers good. They're like a real team,

1575
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: you know. I think people are still like if you

1576
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: just watch them start to finish over the last three

1577
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: or four weeks, I mean relatively Big twelve. Could would

1578
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: they be beaten like Penn States and of course not,

1579
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, but can they beat BYU in a championship game?

1580
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: If they get there? I kind of like their chance.

1581
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: I think plus one to forty it's kind of tasty.

1582
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem with Colorado and yeah, they're playing well.

1583
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 3: They have arguably like two top five draft picks who

1584
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 3: could say that on offense, and their other receivers are

1585
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: really good. That they brought in the passing attack is awesome.

1586
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: Their defense, you know, obviously have Travis Hunter. It's not

1587
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: the most talented group, but they're really well coached. The

1588
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, who you know, wasn't getting a lot of hype, Livingston,

1589
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 3: He's done a tremendous job and if you look at

1590
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 3: their numbers in the second half, the adjustice that he's

1591
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 3: making are tremendous. And just from a schimat at last

1592
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 3: week against Texas Tech, Texas Tech runs this you know,

1593
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 3: modified air raid, which you never ever want to play

1594
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 3: man to man against. I mean this goes back to

1595
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 3: Leach and even before him, Like the way to beat

1596
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 3: them is you would just you know, drop eight. The

1597
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: Colorado plays man like and press most of the time,

1598
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: like seventy five eighty percent of the time came out.

1599
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: They were playing their man early Texas Tech was moving

1600
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: the ball and Texas Tech went up in that game,

1601
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 3: and you know they were trying to blitz. Some don't

1602
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 3: want to blitz this Texas Tech team either. They had

1603
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 3: justin quick and then they went more zone. The rest

1604
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: of the game stopped blitzing, were able to get pressure,

1605
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 3: and then Texas Tech couldn't really do anything. So they're

1606
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 3: really well coached on the defensive. And then you got

1607
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Warren Sapp bringing some juice to that defensive line. He's

1608
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 3: not fun fun to watch on the sidelines. The problem

1609
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 3: with Colorado is they don't win any tiebreakers, so they

1610
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 3: have to win out their schedule and conference is so bad,

1611
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 3: like if they get any if they get any tiebreakers,

1612
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: it's gonna come down to strength of like if they

1613
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: end up time with Kansas State, they lost to Kansas State.

1614
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: If it's with anyone else, it'll be sure. But they

1615
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 3: went out there in if they went out there in now.

1616
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 3: But the reason I bring that up is there's a

1617
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 3: team that's playing probably better than anyone in the Big

1618
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: twelve who I like this weekend, but I bet last weekend.

1619
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 3: I've bet the weekend before. I bet them three straight weeks.

1620
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 3: I bet him again. I bet him this week it's

1621
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 3: Kansas I bet him. This weekend'st Peu. I think they

1622
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: beat Ya. I've been hi plus three and a half.

1623
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 3: I think they're still catching three. That's fine. And then

1624
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 3: next week they host Colorado. I think there's a good

1625
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 3: chance that Kansas beats them. That game will be really good.

1626
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 3: It'll be a shootout the Kansas. This Kansas offense Early Dan,

1627
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 3: their quarterback Jalen Dan, who was playing like at a

1628
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: Lamar level right now over the past threeks's. He's fully healthy.

1629
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 3: He looks like Lamar when he's playing like their offense,

1630
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: it's it's humming right now. He's fully healthy. And this

1631
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 3: is a Kansas team that's been the unluckiest team in

1632
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: the country. The Uyu has been the luckiest. Like UA,

1633
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 3: you should have lost last week they should have lost

1634
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma State and Oklahoma State in Utah should have

1635
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 3: won at buy You aren't probably don't even going to bowls.

1636
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 3: Kansas has been the unluckiest team. So if you look

1637
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: at their record, you're like, why is this team getting

1638
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 3: bet down to you know, plus three plus two and

1639
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 3: a half. They're three and six on the year. Well,

1640
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 3: they lost to Kansas State by two at Kansas State

1641
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 3: on like a safety and they gave up a touchdown late.

1642
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: They blew a late two touchdown lead with like three

1643
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 3: minutes to go. At West Virginia, they lost that ridiculous

1644
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 3: game to UNLB when there was a pick at the

1645
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: end of the first half and then un scored a touchdown.

1646
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 3: They had a pick six that cost him the game.

1647
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: At Illinois, this this seems lost every game by two,

1648
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: three one in like ridiculous fashion. They could easily few

1649
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,560
Speaker 3: other bounces. They could easily be in first place in

1650
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 3: BYU have two or three losses. So this team and

1651
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 3: they're super motivated to get to a ball. They're really

1652
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 3: well coached Lance Laphold, so they're going to have a

1653
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,879
Speaker 3: major say in this. That would be my only concern

1654
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: with Colorado. But I do think that if Colorado gets there,

1655
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the look headlines the next week, cod

1656
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 3: It'll be like a I don't know, it'll be under

1657
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: a field goal.

1658
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: You know It's funny is last week we went to

1659
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: lunch and I was like, you know what, let's get

1660
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: some midday cocktails on Saturday. So we went to a

1661
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: We went to this bar right across the street and

1662
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: they had all the TVs up and we go kind

1663
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 1: of sit on this like area where there are couches

1664
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: and like ten TVs up at this sports bar, and

1665
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: these people sitting next to us are all wearing Iowa

1666
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: State shit, And I was like, hey, can you turn

1667
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: on the Colorado game? Then I look Arrowhead Kansas Iowa State,

1668
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: and within ten minutes they were like I can just

1669
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: hear them, like what the fuck? They were getting worked dominated.

1670
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: Kansas look like a you know, a playoff team they made.

1671
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: They made Iowa State look like cal Paly. It was.

1672
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool and I ended up watching a

1673
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: decent amount of game because we're talking about they look good.

1674
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was making jokes on Twitter that that's the

1675
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 3: best offense that anyone in had.

1676
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: I wish they came back a little bit in that

1677
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 1: game because I remember coming back to my house and

1678
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: looking at the score and the final score is a

1679
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: little closer. Do they have a kind of a chance

1680
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter? We're not really no, I mean

1681
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: they were down like it was like eight or something. Yeah, Uh,

1682
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Kansas to their defense is bad. So I mean Coylor

1683
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Oddison score did, but what's working in Kansas's favors? You

1684
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: can run on them.

1685
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: They do have too. They have two really good corners

1686
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 3: like Kobe Bryant will be drafted in mellow dots and

1687
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 3: but that's about it on their defense, so they're gonna

1688
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: but their offenses it's it's humming. So I like them.

1689
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 3: It's b Yu this week. That would be my only

1690
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 3: concern with car. But I don't hate the bat because

1691
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 3: I think if they played Uyu, which is the most

1692
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 3: likely scenario, they're they're gonna beat b y U. B

1693
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: Yu is they can't keep getting away with this. They're

1694
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Although the Chiefs are like the team that

1695
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 3: you trust to win, but b Yu, this is just

1696
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 3: some of these games that they've won this year are

1697
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 3: pretty crazy. And yeah, I would expect that game to

1698
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 3: be basically at coin flip Colorado k Kansas, Like from

1699
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 3: a line perspective, we'll be a really entertaining game to watch. Then, yeah,

1700
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 3: you have you have four top four teams on the

1701
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: road for the first that happens like once in the

1702
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: past ten years. But the problem is they're like off

1703
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: thirty point favorites. Yeah, that's probably my favorite of the

1704
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 3: bunch of the lines that are still around San Jose State.

1705
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: If you want a game that likes you're a junkie.

1706
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Against Boise I think that line's too high. They're

1707
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 3: catching two touchdowns. Bois has injuries on the offensive line.

1708
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 3: They lost their green dot to an injuries on crutches

1709
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 3: last week. At that safety, he's a really good player.

1710
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 3: You can pass on Boise. Santase State can throw the

1711
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 3: ball around Nick Nash. We want to talk about one

1712
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 3: of the most I mean, no one talks about. Everyone

1713
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 3: talks about gent Nick Nash. He's the nation's leading receiver.

1714
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 3: Is a guy who can go for two hundred on

1715
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 3: any night. He used to play quarterback at Santase State.

1716
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 3: Now he's playing receiver. He's gonna get He's gonna play

1717
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

1718
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: Uh.

1719
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,560
Speaker 3: This kid is a player. I don't think Boise is

1720
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 3: anyone who can cover him. They have another good receiver

1721
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 3: to Santase State. They can put a scare into Boise

1722
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 3: here at home catching two touchdown, I think that's too

1723
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 3: many points. This Boise State teams getting everyone's best effort

1724
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 3: every week. They're too inflated in the market. They have

1725
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 3: offensive line injuries. Their defense can be thrown on. Santase

1726
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 3: Steak can throw it. You want a CBS Sports neverck

1727
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 3: seven Eastern four Pacific Nick, you want to watch two

1728
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 3: of the best group of five players in the country,

1729
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 3: Ashton genty at running back, Nick Nash that wide receiver,

1730
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 3: Nations leading rusher versus Nations leading receiver. I think San

1731
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 3: Jose State has enough juice to keep that within too touch.

1732
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: The Boise were to go down. What are the rules

1733
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: does a non Power four team have to get in?

1734
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Like is just the highest ranked team or do you

1735
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: have to be in the top twenty five? Like who

1736
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: else would even be in the mix?

1737
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be the highest ranked non it's the highest

1738
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 3: ranked group of five conference champion, So.

1739
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 1: So someone's guaranteed a spot.

1740
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can throw out the mac Like if

1741
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: Pois loses this game but then wins them mount lest

1742
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 3: they could still get it. But you also gotta have

1743
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 3: tu lane if Tulane keeps winning and wins out Army,

1744
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 3: so you know Army. If they lose the Notre Dame,

1745
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 3: that shouldn't impact them to much. If they win the

1746
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: rest of their games to win the AAC, you could

1747
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 3: have an Army or two lane. And it comes down

1748
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 3: to like who will be rated to hire Army or

1749
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 3: two Lane or Boise. You're not gonna have anyone from

1750
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 3: the mac Louisiana maybe with one loss, but.

1751
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: They so the committee would be rooting for Boise. With Gant,

1752
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: it's an easy story to sell.

1753
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. Or if it's like, uh, if an army was

1754
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,759
Speaker 3: undefeated army, you gotta put them in the armies underfeed

1755
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 3: and they beat notre name next week. But uh, someone's

1756
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,839
Speaker 3: guaranteed it, and Boise is definitely the front runner.

1757
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: Okay, Stucky, Let's let's keep rolling. Enjoy the weekend. The

1758
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: best part about recording this on Thursday, it means almost Friday.

1759
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: Football is almost here for the weekend. So have a

1760
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: good one. Talk to you soon, bro, have a weekend. Brother.

1761
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 3: I'll see you next week.

1762
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 1: The volume