1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. It's Texans All Access here inside the building, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: like the man said at RG Stadium, the Hunday Texans 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Radio Studio, Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you tonight. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Drew Dohorty's gonna join us in just a little bit, 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: and Johnny the vandermok is out on Houston Texans dot com. 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Is I'm ready to get ripped on my selections by 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: you the guru with the Harris one hundred set to 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: be released next week, I guess, But here we go. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: It's the vandermach And before people wonder what this is, 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: it's seven rounds of Texans Selections. I make all the 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: picts for them so they don't have to do any 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: of the work. It's undone and I wrote that. Yeah, 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Brian Gaine, I tried to catch up with him in 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: the hallway to give him my selections, but for some 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: reason he started running when he saw me coming. So 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: let's just get into it. Round one. We'll go on. 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Well here's my let me give you a thirty five. Yeah. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: If this, let's just say this happened exactly the way 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: it's late, exact way that this thing is laid out, 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and this happened to hear this, I would hug you really, Yes, 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: you would say this is a pretty good draft if 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: you could get all these players. Because I got a 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: feeling I'm I'm taking a couple of guys where they 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: might not be available liberty, like round to seven, round seven, 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? Yeah, why not he so he dropped for something? Yeah, 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray drops to the seventh round, he's either 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: in a baseball uniform or maybe no longer with us 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: in the bad sense. I think that I think that 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: if you end up with this this draft, I would 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: be bravo. Now let's get into a round one, Round one. 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go cornerback here. And the reason is corner 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: is a position in my opinion, I mean, if how 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: is it not a position of need right now, especially 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: where we are in February prior to free agency? Who 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: have they re signed or signed? I don't know. I 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: know I need corners. I know that it was an 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: injury filled position last year. There I am the ultimate 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: example against Philadelphia, second to last week of the season. 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: I gotta have this game to get a bibe, and 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: I've got every corner hurt virtually right I've got Aaron 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Colvin right hurt or healthy, scratch or whatever he was 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: that day. I think Aaron actually had to go in 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: the game that day. Okay, whatever, you gonna go back 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: into the game. But that was because you lost Kareem Jackson. 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I got Cavon Webster coming back finally ready to contribute, 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: and then he gets hurt. Yeah, I got Kareem Jackson out. 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I got j Joe leaving the game. Now, he came 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: back late in the game, but I'm thinking that since 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: he was exiting in the first place, he probably wasn't 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Hey, all of a sudden, I'm one 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: hundred percent here deep in the fourth quarter when I'm 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna come back into the game because we're desperate, they 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: were decimated. I need a corner. I'm picking Greedy Williams 54 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: from LSU. He's tall, his name is Greedy. I love this. 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Not that I only pick based on name Johnny, but 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: as a play by play man, if I'm in charge 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: of the draft, the name Greedy stands out to me. 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: As I'm talking, I want you to pull up his 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: actual real name. I think his real name is actually 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of cool, especially the way that he spells it. 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: But it's interesting because you told me this yesterday about 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams as the first pick, and there are a 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: lot of people that would say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: that's way too late. He's not making it to twenty three. 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: I've seen a few more, you know, a few more 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: of the analysts that don't have him in the top 67 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: ten to twelve where I originally thought he would go. 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: I think in the Harris one hundred he's somewhere in 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: the top fifteen. So I do think there's a possibility 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: that he gets to twenty three, and I would like 71 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: that because one of the things that I like about 72 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Greedy is the fact that he'll cover without the clutch 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: to hold, to grab the tug. That's one of the 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: things that I try and look for as best I 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: possibly can. With these corners coming to NFL, because I 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: have the Senior Bowl. I mean, dudes were just getting receivers, 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: couldn't even run a route because the corners are just 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: grabbing and clutching holding. I thought they gotta let go. 79 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Don't they have officials, well, during practice, not during they 80 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: should no during a game. Shouldn't they try to remember 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: if this has a little warning, Hey, they don't have that. 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: I can remember, yeah, but that that's something that they 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: throughout the week. The in this case it was the 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: forty Niners and the Raiders, they try to hey, look, 85 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: you gotta get your hands off. That's gonna be a penalty. 86 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: So they're they're constantly reminding him, and then it gets 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: to be too much. They just make him playoff coverage 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: the whole time. And that's a really good test when 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: they do that. But I think greedy, greedy round one 90 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: that old people say, wait a second, you didn't take 91 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: a tackle. You're wrong. I mean immediately that would have 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: been the reaction. But I'm with you watching that game 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, watching the Colts, seeing what t Y Hilton does, 94 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: all the different weapons the Colts can throw at you, 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: and the culture gonna add some more. Dean Kane's coming. 96 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: He was one of the shots receivers at Clemson. He's coming. 97 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a factor coming off in a healthcare 98 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna draft another one. So you're gonna 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: have to tangle with them. You're gonna have to tangle 100 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: with Corey Davis from Tennessee. I think you going corner here. 101 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: To me, I don't I have any problem with it. 102 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: I think, to me, it's corner, it's tackle. One of 103 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: those two ends up being what you do in the 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: first depending on what you do in free agency. Right 105 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: if for some reason you go out and sign three corners, 106 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: can maybe likely to be a tackle, but you don't 107 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: want to take a tackle in the wrong spot either, 108 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: maybe maybe even drop down, maybe you move up. Absolutely. 109 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: The other thing about Greedy fall into twenty three Whitney 110 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: merciless at one point where Whitney targeted to go top ten, 111 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: top fifteen in some mocks, I mean I went and 112 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: he dropped to twenty six in twenty twelve. Things can 113 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: happen like this all the time. So I'm gonna go 114 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: ahead and take Greedy Williams, And I don't know what's 115 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen with Kevin Johnson, Jonathan Joe obviously safety or 116 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: maybe not even here, whatever the case may be. So 117 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: there it is. If I said to you going into 118 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season, if I said to you, who 119 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: is guaranteed to be a member of the cornerback room. 120 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I know the quarterbacks and safeties worked together, But if 121 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: I said, who's guaranteed to be a member of the 122 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen cornerback room? Who would you tell me this year? 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Who would you tell me is guaranteed? Your silence says 124 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: it all right, My silence says it all I can't 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: guarantee anybody. I could say Calvin's under contract, so wind out. 126 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: But a healthy scratch at the end of the year 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: leads me to believe. I don't know what's gonna happen 128 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: with him, Kevin Johnson. I don't know what's gonna happen 129 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: with him cut off. The injuries and concussion is a 130 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: is a different kind of thing than any other injury. 131 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: Exact we all know exactly. You know, Jonathan Joseph is 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: one hundred years old. No, Johnathan Joseph can still play. 133 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I think he can't too. I mean that game it 134 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: gets filled healthy. I thought he was playing very, very well, 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: makes some place until he ended up getting dinged up. 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: I think one of the best stories of the entire 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: year would have been if Jjo would have made a 138 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: play on that final drive after going back in the game. Yeah, 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: it was one of the timeout after the good the timeout. 140 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't even get into this because I 141 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: remember seeing Zach Cuttingham put on a different helmet so 142 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: he could have the coach comp system, so Racket talk 143 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to him. I remember j Joe having to put his 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: shoes back on to go back out there. He's putting 145 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: his shoes on like they basically put him all back 146 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: together for that final drive. And was he all over 147 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: all Sean Jeffrey, Yes, draped on him and Jeffrey comes 148 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: down with that ball. Then three weeks later, Jeffrey drops 149 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: the winning it's the Saints. I mean, unbelievable. Okay, any 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: round two, I'm gonna go with the tackle Cody Ford 151 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, maybe the best line in college football according 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: to SOB. I don't know how you feel about that. 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 1: He's six four, three thirty. You think he's a guard. 154 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people have him listed as a tackle. 155 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: He's got he's got the motor, though, Johnny, he's He's 156 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: one of those passionate players on the old line. I 157 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: like this a lot. He's not the one one of 158 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: these timid guys that you got to sort of coach 159 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: into it. He's ready to rock. He wants to knock 160 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: people over. I like having him. If he turns into 161 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: a guard eventually. All right, So what make up a guard? 162 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: I think he could play either. What do you think 163 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: I actually have got him in the Harrismim Hunter added 164 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: as a tackle. I think his skill set his probably 165 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: seated for guard. First of all, I don't think we're 166 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna get him a pick fifty three. I don't. He might, might, 167 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: might fall to the second round. It's falling because I 168 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: decreed it. But I don't think he's gonna get him last. 169 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he lasts that far. That's that's the 170 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: biggest thing. That's what makes this. You get Cody Ford 171 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: though the second round, Like, I don't care whether you're 172 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: thinking tackle or guard. That's best available lineman and you 173 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: deal with it, all right, You feel that about that. 174 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: But I feel good about Cody FOURD. I just don't. 175 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't feel good about getting him to round two. 176 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: All right. So it's it's the vander mock on on 177 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com. So check it out now. My 178 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: third pick is another second rounder, Trayvon Mullen from Clemson, 179 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: who had a big National championship game against Bama. A 180 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: pick a forrest fumble, he had a sack and look 181 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: he went to Clemson, right, So I don't care. I 182 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: would make my whole draft lesson players, I mean Palmetto 183 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: State Draft. I'm all about it. I think the guy's hero. 184 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Love it, and I need another corner. I'm stockpiling at 185 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: this particular position. And you said it. If you signed 186 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: three four corners and free agency, it changes you're thinking. 187 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: But I'm fine taking two in the first three picks, 188 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: especially if they're these guys. No doubt trayvon Mullins, He's 189 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the exact heightweight, speed kind of guy. I'm excited and 190 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: intrigued to see what he runs at the combine. But 191 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: I without question, I love this pick. You get guys 192 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: like trayvon Mullin, you get greedy Williams, guys that can 193 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: run and be physical, that could do a lot of 194 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: different things. Bravo, Bravo. Okay, this is oh wait is 195 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: he there late in the second round? I think this 196 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: is about where he goes. Okay, good, I think this 197 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: is about where he goes. Upset pick of my vander 198 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: draft is coming up. I have I have a little 199 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: beef with you, and I think that number four may 200 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: have a little beef with you. Two Okay, but number 201 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: four we'll have a beef with me. He's not gonna 202 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: like this one, all right? Here it is. It's early 203 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: for this guy maybe, but I think the way he's 204 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna play in the NFL, it's not early. I don't 205 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: have a fourth round pick. I gotta take him here, 206 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: Bill up, Bill Belichick is a lock to take him 207 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: if I don't. It's Andy Isabella from you mass wide receiver. 208 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: And here is the outcry from the fans. Wide receiver. 209 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? We've got receivers, we need 210 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: another tackle, we need this, We need to listen. Andy 211 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Isabella is gonna make somebody very happy. Get ready to 212 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: be upset again, fans. He's only five eight. What what 213 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: are you doing to me? A five eighth receiver and 214 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: a slot guy? We have Kiki qut look, luxury problem. 215 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Give me both those guys. Let Tim Kelly and Bill 216 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: O'Brien figure it out. Isabella can run every route. He's 217 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a big time NFL player. In my opinion, 218 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: why would you not pick if you're gonna do this, 219 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Why would you not pick a guy that Deshaun Watson 220 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: is very comfortable throwing the ball too? Oh wait, Hunter 221 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: renfro Hunter. I almost took Hunter Renfro. I'm telling you, Mark, 222 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: if Hunter Renfro just put on street clothes, just put 223 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: on in his business casual, you had walked our offices, 224 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: you would have no idea. But that's what West looked like. 225 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: I know, here's here's what I would propose. Yeah, here's 226 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: what I would propose. I do think that it Isabella. 227 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: I did not put him in the hundred, and I 228 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: I battled with him. I went kind of back and forth, uh, 229 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: And I battled with him. And the one thing that 230 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I struggled with about Isabella was catching the football consistently, 231 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: because there's one thing that Kiki QT does and that 232 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: was the other thing. I looked at Isabella and I 233 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: looked at QTa kind of compared to Tune and went, 234 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, Keiki went and pick one oh three. I 235 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: think that's what it was. In the fourth round. I 236 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: was like, I can't make a case for Isabella being 237 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: a little bit smaller, Yeah, with not as good at 238 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: hands as Keiki going in the top one hundred. But 239 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this, take your boy, Hunter red friend. 240 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I would have made you so proud too. I'm really 241 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: upset that I don't do it. Here's the one you 242 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: to do. I got swayed by the U Mask thing. Johnny. No. 243 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. If they take Isabella, that's 244 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: because Mark Whipple, former coach at U Mask. Now he's 245 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: a pit They know these guys, well, you know him 246 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: like he loves Isabella. I think is am I right 247 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Asabella is getting drafted in the fourth. There's no doubt, 248 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: there's no andy. Isabella is a player. You're talking about 249 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: quick and explosive. The one thing about a Hunter Renfer, 250 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: like I said, like his measurements do not speak NFL 251 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: player except for one his speed. He's fast, right, he 252 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: is very one hundred fifty pounds as a walk on. 253 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: He is extremely fast. And I saw it the Senior Bowl. 254 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: He was roasting guys. He catches everything. So here's what 255 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. Here's what I here's what I would do. 256 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: I would there's no round four published, by the way, 257 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: but go on him. I would trade your round five pick, yeah, 258 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: and the round three picks. So what I would do 259 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: is I would take David Montgomery, the running back from 260 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 1: I was state, oh, well, you're ticking round five. I 261 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: don't think you're getting around five, maybe, but I would 262 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: take him in round three at the back end of 263 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: round three. That's what I had him in round three, 264 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: but I thought it was too early, and then take 265 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: Renfro in round five. I thought Montgomery it was too early. 266 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I actually love Isabella round five, but I said, there's 267 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: no way he lasts. I want to grab him in 268 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: round three, and I thought, maybe Montgomery falls. We'll talk 269 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: about Montgomery and do the rest of the picks in 270 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: the vandermock, which is on Houston Texans dot com and 271 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: also coming up later, who is the most well liked 272 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: former Texans quarterback? Think about it. It's Texans Radio. We've 273 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: added a new band member for this segment. It's Drew 274 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Doherty here on Texans Radio. Drew, how are you. I'm great, 275 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Good to see you. All right, So the vandermark is out. 276 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: You didn't weigh in on anything early, but I love it. 277 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: If Greedy Williams falls the Texans. Yeah, so you know 278 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: it's on Houston Texans dot Com. I've got Greedy Williams. 279 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Cody Ford in round two. Is the tackle that they 280 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: take first? Here, Trey von mull and the corner from Clemson. 281 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: Also in the second round round three Andy is a 282 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: bella from you, mask and wide receiver, and round five 283 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: David Montgomery. We'll talk more about him. But you think greedy, 284 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: it's a possibility, right, He's not out of the realm 285 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: of possibility. I think he'd be a stretch, but that 286 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: he falls, yeah, that'd be a stretch. But yeah, wilder 287 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: things have happened the other Yea and the next two 288 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: guys that you had Ford Mullen, they've both been mocked 289 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: to the Texans in the first round and a lot 290 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: of mock drafts first round, a lot of mock drafts. 291 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: So if that were to happen, that's like a dream scenario. 292 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: You get too stud corners and somebody to help protect 293 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the shows. Justin Reid mocked two last year. He showed 294 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: up in the first round of the of a few 295 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: mocks at the beginning a little bit, yeah, a little bit, 296 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: and then I think he ran like a four for 297 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: eight or something like that at the combine. But he 298 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: was I had him. I think at forty four forty five, Okay, 299 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: on the Harris one, I thought he was gonna go. 300 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna go in the middle of 301 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: the late second. That's where I thought. So when he 302 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: came to us at sixty five or sixty eight, I 303 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: was like, whoa, how this happened? Happy birthday to Justin 304 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: Reid by the very cool Happy Birthday Justin Reidyeah. I mean, 305 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: if you had to redraft last year, read might pop 306 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: into the first round, right, I mean, oh heck yeah, 307 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: you redrafted it. I mean he's one of the some 308 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: people you know, say Jesse Bates from since the day 309 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: and Jesse Bates had a good year. Um, but I 310 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: had those two ranked pretty pretty similarly. I had. I 311 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: had Bates a few spots out, actually behind Reid in 312 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: the Harrison one hundred, and then Bates ended up being 313 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: drafted a little bit higher. The one guy that I thought. 314 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: And I remember we were sitting here on draft night 315 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: and Derwin James get I mean I saw Derwin James. 316 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I was like, man, the Chargers are sitting there is 317 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: like here it is. And as soon as they drafted them, 318 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: A thought, you got Boss, you got Ingram, You now 319 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: add Derwin James. This is gonna be one half. We 320 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: got to see them this year in LA. All right, 321 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: here we go, all right. Round five. David Montgomery running 322 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: back Iowa Stay, and I said that Iowa Stay turned 323 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: into something this year. Right, Yeah, last year you got 324 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Sage Rosen Fells and and J. J. Moses and they're 325 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: able to brag about their alma Modern Woman. Was the 326 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: last time that happens? Well, in large part because well 327 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: not in large part. I was. State's got some players, 328 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: and in fact, they've got two of them, and I 329 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: actually wouldn't be opposed to either one. One's a Keim 330 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: Butler who played his high school ball, actually out at 331 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Travis High School and on the West side four Bend 332 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: i SD. He is related to the Harrison twins if 333 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: you remember then played at Kentucky played basketball. He's a 334 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: heck of a player. He's about six four two twenty. 335 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: But then they're running back. David Montgomery is just a 336 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: little He's pocket dynamite. I mean he is his five nine, 337 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: like two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he bounces off 338 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: people like I have not seen a running back that 339 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: just bounces off more people and fights through tackles more 340 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: than this guy. If we get him in the fifth round, 341 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: I will dance on this table, Mark Vanni, Mary, I 342 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: will dance on this table. You talk about him bounce 343 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: off tackles. He's pretty shifty too. There's the guy that 344 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: had that cut on that safety that it's been going 345 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: around Twitter. Yeah, that's been going on Twitter. He's got 346 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: I think he's got everything you're looking for. I think 347 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: he's tough. I don't think he's got top end speed, 348 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: and he's got huge speed, but I don't know that 349 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: I really care too much about that. He's tough, he'll 350 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: hitch you in him mouth. He is very difficult to 351 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: bring down. I think he's got pretty good vision. I 352 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: think Montgomery in the fifth round, I would I would 353 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: dance a Jake all right. What about round six with 354 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: whyatt Ray from Boston College who had an eleven and 355 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: a half EFLs nine sacks. I think this. When I 356 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: saw this on your Vandermacher was like, whoa this good thinking? 357 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: I just I'm of that mindset. You just can't have 358 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: enough guys that can rush the quarterback, right, And I 359 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: think he's he's gonna be. Even though I think he 360 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: played more of a four three defensive end in Boston College, 361 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: I think he is a three four outside linebacker. Like 362 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: he strikes me as a little bit a little bit smaller, 363 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: but a little bit more explosive Peter Callumbady by the way, 364 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I think Peter's gonna go inside. I think Peter. I 365 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: think Peter going forward and dabbled. I know I think 366 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: he should be an inside linebacker, but I think why 367 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: it rays an outside linebacker would work very very well. 368 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: I like, I think to that end, you can't have 369 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: enough pass rushers. You can't have enough guys go get 370 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback. You can't have enough guys that can cover. 371 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: You can't have enough guys that can run. You can't 372 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: have enough athletes. Was the last Boston college had two 373 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: defensive players drafted. So Zach Allen, where is he gonna 374 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: go from BC? I think he's I think he's second round. 375 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting watching Zach Allen. I swear to 376 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: you I was watching him about a week ago as 377 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: I was doing the Harrison Hunt. I was watching him, 378 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: and I I swear you could watch a particular play 379 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: and put a Texas uniform on him and go that's JJ. 380 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Now he's not. He's not what all around like. I 381 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: don't think he's the athletic, is what. I don't think 382 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: he's got all those assets, but just his mannerisms they 383 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: he likes his hands. I was like, that's jj Oh 384 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: my gosh. So he's gonna have a very similar like transition. 385 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: We'll see what team drafts him and how they want 386 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: to use him. But Al's a pretty good player. I 387 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: think he ends up going in the second round. Johnny, 388 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a seventh round down the Vandermock and Trey Pipkins 389 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: from the University of Sioux Falls is coming to the 390 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. How did you come on, Drew. I do 391 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: a lot of research on this, and I love the 392 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: name Pipkins, although I wish he was a skill player. 393 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: I liked I liked in your description from Montgomery that 394 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: you get to call him Monty. Yeah, he's got a 395 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: World War two or is that Colin Montgomery? Golfer? Everything 396 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: to the goal one? You know, I you know, I 397 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: look at the draft differently than most people. This is 398 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: clue Ran Game doesn't really want to hear it, but 399 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: this is how I view it. Okay, what about Trey 400 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: Pitch Johnny, you have anything to say about my University 401 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: of Sioux Falls player and he played at the East 402 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: West Shrine. Game did a pretty good job. From what 403 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I read, it looks like he can run. He's sixty seven, 404 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: a legit, six seven, and we'll see what at the combine. 405 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes those six seven guys turned into six five and 406 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: a half pretty quickly. But sixty seventh long athlete, they 407 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: got a seventh round. I mean, especially a lineman. You're, yeah, 408 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: you don't expect him to start right away or be 409 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: a guy right away. But you got Derek Newton and 410 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: what twenty eleven, twenty twelve, whiles what year we get 411 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: Derek Newton twenty twelve, twenty twelve, got him in seventh round. 412 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: He ended up being a good player for you obviously 413 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: before wait twenty eleven, Hang on a second, looking it up, boy, 414 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: that's been a while, hum, I mean it has, that's 415 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: been a while because he remember he started his career 416 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. He started his career as the extra lineman. 417 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: How many guys have done that and then they turn 418 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: into something? So what he ate? Good? Draft? Very good? 419 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Was Yeah, he was your jumbo guy in eleven on. 420 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: You know, when he had a goal line situation, short 421 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: yard situation, he was always in on field goal you know, 422 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: block units. Yeah, all right, what's the tweet involving our 423 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: guy Tyron Matthew today. All right, there was a tweet 424 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: I think yesterday saying which athlete or which favorite football player? 425 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: Name an athlete? Yeah, could you see that if you 426 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: heard he or she killed him out in line with 427 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: bare hands, wouldn't surprise you. And I saw that. I 428 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: pounced on it. I had three choices, so I chose 429 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Texans Shane Leckler he's a mountain man, yes, Brian Brayman, 430 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: because he's a mountain man. Leckler would use a bowie knife. No, 431 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Likekler could probably figure out a way and then he'd yeah, 432 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: he'd get it done. From Bernard, he'd get it done. 433 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: And Ben Jones, Ben Jones is he's a hunter fish 434 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: should kill a line with his feet? Yes, yeah, on 435 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: this current roster, who would you say? Well, huge oversight 436 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: because Tyron Matthew tweeted today, Um, honey badger. It's perfect 437 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: and it's a perfect tweet. It's a perfect tweet from 438 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: the perfect guy who was a honey badger. So yeah, 439 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: that's so. The other night I was flipping through on 440 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: my channel guide and I wasn't looking at the At 441 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: the top of my uh guide, it shows you what 442 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: channel it is. So I'm just going by. I'm just 443 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: sliding by and I get to a little block of programming. 444 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: It says ultimate honey Badger, and I was like, sweet, 445 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: NFL network did something on a honey Badger and I 446 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: went is Literally it was the National Geographic Channel that 447 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: had an hour documentary on the honey back. But that 448 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I animals are fearless. They're bulletproof tigers in their mind. 449 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: It was. And it's so funny watching it because the 450 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: exact football player I would think of is Tyrann Matthew. 451 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: I saw him fighting off these huge hyenas and he 452 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: was just snapping at him and they eventually just ran off, 453 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's him. Think about Week one, 454 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: we saw him basically body slam Rob Gronkowski. He bodyslam 455 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Rob Bronkowski at the end of a play. That's incredible 456 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: at his size. All right, So, speaking of the Texan 457 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: safety position and Tyron Matthew's a free agent, how about 458 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: Glover Quinn being released by the Detroit Lions. Former Texans 459 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: safety great Texan. He has twenty four career interceptions, twenty four. 460 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson leads the franchise in history was sixteen. Look 461 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: I hate to water under the bridge and that kind 462 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: of thing. But yeah, this is the one that got away. 463 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: He really is, because you let him go and you 464 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: signed ed Read instead. So it was a double whammy there. 465 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: And look when they signed Read, put your hand up 466 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: if you weren't excited, honest here, I was thrilled. And 467 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying this eliciting audience. I mean most of us 468 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: were pretty excited about Edred. Johnny's like, Johnny, No, I 469 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: mean the problem none. The problem was he wasn't healthy, 470 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: and I worried about it at the signing though. Did 471 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: you know that, I know, I know I wasn't there 472 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: was something wrong, but it was like him, it was 473 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Yeah, because I remember John's told you 474 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: told the story many times when you first saw him 475 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: at OTAs and you're like, oh, no, yeah, I saw. 476 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if did he do anything on the 477 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: side field hide fields. So here's the story with that. 478 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: When it was the very first day of training camp 479 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: and I happened to just look over there and I 480 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: saw him doing stuff, and I remember tweeting at that point, 481 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: which I wouldn't do now, but I remember tweeting at 482 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: the time. There's no way edred to be ready for 483 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, and so Meltzer jumps in is like, well, 484 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: I saw him, you look fine. I'm like, no, I'm 485 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: telling you, it's not happening. I can look over there 486 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: and I can see it again, like it's not happening. 487 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: And part of it was because as I saw him 488 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: doing something, he was wincing. He had a walker. Yeah, 489 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was doing a drill. I 490 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: just saw him wincing. I was like, yeah, that's the 491 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: training camp. He's not gonna be ready for. Yeah. You 492 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be wincing when you're on the side field. 493 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Try to come back from injury. All right, Next up. 494 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to lament on that situation, 495 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: but I do want your opinion. Who is the most 496 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: well liked former Texans quarterback. Let's talk quarterbacks in general. 497 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: It's been a big week for them sort of in 498 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's Texans Radio. Always fun talking quarterbacks on 499 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: the program. Any NFL show, any football show, it's fun. 500 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandamir, John Harris Drew Doherty with 501 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: you on the Hunday Texans Radio Studio Big Day for 502 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. Colin Kaepernick resolves his grievance with 503 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League, So I guess that's good news 504 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: for everybody. Eric read as well Justin's brother. We talked 505 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: about Justin earlier in the show in a different context. 506 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if the report is true about Kaepernick 507 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: being offered or wanting twenty million dollars to play in 508 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: that AAF. Is it the aaf AF. Yeah, I'd double 509 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: vows at the beginning of an acronyman. And I know 510 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: people who have said people have said, well, if it 511 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: was all about football, then well he would have been 512 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: asking for that. Maybe he just didn't want to do that. 513 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is probably a lot more 514 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: nuanced than any of us jamokes can actually speak to you, 515 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: to be honest. Yeah, I'm glad about this though. I'm 516 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: glad things are getting resolved and that we can move forward. 517 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: All right, let's move forward with this. I've been teasing 518 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: it all day. I gues who's the most well liked 519 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: former Texans quarterback, former T J Yates. Well, I brought 520 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: up the fact that keenom he is so well liked 521 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: here in Houston because of the University of Houston. He's 522 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: still the all time leader in NC double A passing 523 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: yards because he played for eight years at the University 524 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: of Houston. No, he didn't. It wasn't really eight, but 525 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: he played a lot of It felt like a long time. 526 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: It was a big tenure. Case is actually forty years old. 527 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: No he's not. Where does Case end up, by the way, 528 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: because we brought it up last night, maybe even the 529 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: night before, did we all have ideas anybody? If he's 530 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: willing to be a backup wherever he wants, and if 531 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a backup, there's still probably 532 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: three or four places at least where he can. Well, 533 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: is it a trade or do they release them? Because 534 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: I know what they would have done here. You know 535 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: they got something for t J. Yates, They got something 536 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: for a match shop. Surely he gets something for Case Keenum. 537 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: Even as a backup, you think as a valuable backup. 538 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: So they're they're to me or too. I mean, just 539 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: looking backup quarterbacks throughout the league. I mean, there's got 540 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: to be a spot for him. The guys this morning 541 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: brought up Washington. He could start there. I think Washington 542 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: ends up being a prim spot. But here's the thing. 543 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: And this is the one thing I would say about 544 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about us with rookie quarterbacks, and I 545 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: know every rookie class ends up being different, but it 546 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: seems to me the NFL teams are not drafting these 547 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to let him sit. The chief situation with Mahomes 548 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: was a unique one because they had a Pro Bowl 549 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: quarterback in Alex Smith, but they also knew they were 550 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: coming to the end of the line with him. That 551 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: go with Mahomes. It worked out for Kansas City. All 552 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks draft in the first round last year, let's go, yep, 553 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: and not the last week of the year either. Saint 554 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: Arnold started Week one, Baker Mayfield a few weeks, maybe 555 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: two or three weeks after that. Lamar Jackson, I think 556 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: was the latest of all of them to step into 557 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: the lineup, and he ended up taking his team to 558 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So teams are getting rookie quarterbacks, drafting quarterbacks 559 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: saying let's go. It's a great point. And partially with 560 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: some of that, because he looked so good as a rookie, 561 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know what, go ahead and throw 562 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: these guys out there. They're capable of a lot more 563 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: than you might think. If he's up for being a 564 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: backup and he's cut and wants to go where he wants. Uh. 565 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco and Atlanta are nice systems where he might flourish. 566 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd want to keep it because 567 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: the Atlanta has shop as the backup. Right, I think 568 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: Keenum's well, here's one for you, kind of to that 569 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: end about last Year's a thing you just said, by 570 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: the way, when you think of the history in this building, Yeah, yeah, interesting, 571 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Greg Knapps there to that end, maybe Arizona because Cliff 572 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Kings has a history with Case Keenum. He knows Case. 573 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of what Cliff did. He'll 574 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: continue doing all that kind of stuff, so I don't know, 575 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: and have somebody there for Josh Rosen to help him 576 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: along if he needs it when he needs it. Well, 577 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: if i'm Case, I want to go there because I 578 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: think Rosen might have some problems. Now, absolutely, I agree 579 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: with Drew Yates is the best liked former Texans quarterback, right, 580 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: I think as well liked as Keenum is. What Yates 581 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: did on the field here. You want to play half 582 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: game here, yeah, you know, but as Keenum beloved because 583 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: he was University Houston quarterback or a Texans quarterback. I 584 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: think he was. He's beloved because he's a University of 585 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Houston quarterback who did some things for the Texans. Now, 586 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: even during that horrific twenty thirteen season, he was exciting. 587 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: It was an exciting he was pleasant memory, just to 588 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: see him give the team a spark, even though they 589 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: lost the spark at Kansas City. The Colts game here 590 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: was just a nightmare, the way it turned out with 591 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak at the half and the way the Colts 592 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: came back in the second half. But the first half 593 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: was as thrilled, I don't want to say as thrilled 594 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: as I've ever seen the building, but it was a 595 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: really thrilling first half when he threw the three touchdown passes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 596 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: he was. He was awesome. And yeah, those are the 597 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: two there. I think it's one A and one B 598 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: right there, with those two Yates and Keenum above all 599 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the rest. It's too bad because the two franchise guys 600 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: that you had before Watson, David Carr and match Shop 601 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: would not make that top three. Even is Sage Rosenfells 602 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: more well liked than say, even match Shob and David 603 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: car to the topest fan base looking back, probably so. 604 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, though, and you guys, 605 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: you guys know this because you knew both David and 606 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: you knew Matt. If you if you sat down for 607 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: if you sat out for at the bar with a 608 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: drink with David Carr and just sat and just talk 609 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: football with him or just talk about it, you would 610 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: realize he's a fantastic guy. But I think for David, unfortunately, 611 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: the expectations were so darn high to be the number 612 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: one overall pick and it doesn't pan out. I think 613 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: fans in Houston obviously were like, wait a second, you're 614 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: don't want to overall pick. You're supposed to be the 615 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: guy for fifteen years, Yeah, and it didn't turn out 616 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: that way. I think from that perspective, it's probably a 617 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: shame because David is as stand up a guy as 618 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: there actually is, and so and so is Matt. And 619 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: obviously Matt's continued to play. But I just think it's 620 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: unfortunate because that's how they're gonna end up being remembered 621 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: for that, because well, seab didn't get us to the 622 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl and David Carr flamed out, and yet every 623 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: single person out there would want to sit out with 624 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: him and have a beer them or have dinner with 625 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: them and realize these are great dudes, like they would 626 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: love them. After that. They both did a lot in 627 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: the community. They're they're both outstanding people. You're right, and 628 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Shob had it not been for that last year, obviously 629 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: had a very good resume here until the last year 630 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: when things completely fell off the cliff. And I think that, well, obviously, 631 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: if the last year went a lot better, maybe history 632 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: completely changes and he's still here. Maybe Kubiak never gets fired. 633 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens. Yeah, it was such an 634 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: odd I mean, just the way it just creter. I mean, 635 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: the creator it was one of the most bizarre things 636 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Eleven and one, and then from there 637 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: on it is eleven and one in twenty twelve, and 638 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: then from there on December, Oh my god, finding ways 639 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: to lose, like how's it going to happen? Tagonizing what's 640 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen to And unfortunately that's that's what's that's the 641 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: taste left in a lot of people's mouths, which is 642 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: unfortunate because I've said this before. Yes, when Matt was 643 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: even in twenty twelve, I was not totally sold on Matt. 644 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: But if I'm being honest, you look back at his career, well, 645 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: you could have done a whole heck of a lot 646 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: worse what he's able to do. I mean, oh nine 647 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: and ten, he was as good as he got in 648 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: the league, as good as he got into. The horrifying 649 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: thing was the end of twelve that they couldn't close 650 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: the deal get home field throughout? Did you guys read 651 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Dale Robertson's column about my ten worst memories of covering 652 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: Houston sports. So he wrote that because Dale Robertson's retiring 653 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: from the Chronicle, the number one worst memory the firings 654 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: of Bum Phillips and Gary Kubiak. He put Kubiak in 655 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: with Bum, and Kubiak got fired in the twenty thirteen season. 656 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: The morning after the Texans lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars 657 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: with what three or four games to go in the season, 658 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: Thursday nighter. It was really really bad. He brought Shot 659 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: back into the game. And he brought Shot back because 660 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: I think I think ownership wanted to see Keenham play. 661 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: But Kubiak put Shob in according to him, because it 662 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: was Charded's shop too. It was Bearded Shop, and it 663 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: was going around Twitter that night. It was hashtag Bearded 664 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Shob and Bearded Shop was able to get the protections 665 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: straightened out more than Keenam because he had the experience 666 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville's stuff at Keenam that he couldn't deal with 667 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: at the time. Among the other worst memories for Dale Robertson, 668 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: he talks about some astros and comments than kim Perrot's 669 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: cancer announcement. I mean that's horrendous. Bill's oilers obviously makes 670 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: the list. The Oilers moving to Nashville makes the list, 671 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 1: but number eight in Dale's top ten worst memories of 672 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: covering Houston sports, JJ Watt's broken leg followed by the 673 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: Shaun Watson's torn acl Now, I don't know if you 674 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: could put those in the same paragraph here, item, you 675 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: can certainly put it in the top ten though, Well, 676 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: to me, those two events though they happened during the 677 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: same season, Well, how about JJ and Whitney on the 678 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: same drive several plays apart was horrendous. It's interesting how 679 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: the Texans have two spaces places here in the top 680 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: ten for Robertson's Worst Houston Sport Its Memories. Dale seen 681 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: it all. I mean, he's he would be fun for 682 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: story time. He's coming on. He's coming on Texas three 683 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: sixty the TV show this Wednesday. Yeah really sure is? Yeah, 684 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: we can't wait. He would have come on this week, 685 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: but he's he was in Napa doing his other job. 686 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: He chose Napa over me, and I was like, well, 687 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: I would have chosen Nap over me too. Yeah. It's like, 688 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: go on, Dale, there you go. He I bet sports 689 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: story time we talk about that. Just to hear McClain's stories, 690 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: I would just sit and take them all in. But 691 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: to hear some of Dale stories, obviously, with what he 692 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: had going on with Dan Pastorini and what happened when 693 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: they were when he was covering the team many years ago, 694 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's a famous one. But man, I I 695 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: still I go back to when de Sean toward the ACL. 696 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: I remember I remembered seeing it in Seattle and I 697 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: thought that we had escaped it. I thought we had 698 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: escaped it because I saw it happen. I saw him 699 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: reach for his leg and I just went and he 700 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: doesn't you guys have seen that he does that thing 701 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: where he'll when he gets you know, he'll pull his 702 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: socks up. I'm glad he'll do that. He put I 703 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: panic taking the uniform pants and pulling them what over 704 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: the knee or or he's doing he get his socks 705 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: like just right, Johnny. I hate that happy because every 706 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: time he bent again, but this time in Seattle though, 707 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: he actually I could see him like reach for his 708 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: leg and I just I was like, no, but he's 709 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: playing no. And then he kept playing it and I thought, well, 710 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: maybe lay through some more touchdowns. And what happened in 711 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: Seattle when when you look at that moment where the 712 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: knee kind of hyper extends or whatever happened to it, 713 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: it looks like nothing compared to some of the hits 714 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: he took this year. You know, he took some vicious 715 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: and kept playing. So that's good, all right to review. 716 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your guys take on this. 717 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: In the Vandermarck at Houston Texans dot com. You can 718 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: tell I'm teasing it a lot. In the first four picks, 719 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: I have corner, tackle, corner, and then I went wide 720 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: receiver with my surprise pick. In the first four picks. 721 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: If you had pick a position mayby in Johnny's case, 722 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: a player. I'm not sure if you have one drew, 723 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: but a position of upset in the first three or 724 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 1: four picks, what would it be? Because we all assume 725 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: the first three picks are some combination of corner and tackle, 726 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: unless you're assuming something else. That's what I think. The 727 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: consensus is, what do you think here? What's the upset pick? 728 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: As far as position group upset pick? I would say 729 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: quarterback or safety. Okay, quarterback, yes, that would be a 730 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: tremendous up but most likely most likely most likely upset. Yes, 731 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: give me one that you think yeah, okay, No, In 732 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: other words, you're gonna upset. What's the upset? Okay? Not 733 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: like a sixteen is gonna be to one. Wait a minute, 734 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: that happened. It did happen? Finally, Yes, I could see 735 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: the Texans taken a running back in the like with 736 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: the fourth but I don't think that's a huge upset 737 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: the fourth pick and round three, Johnny, Yeah, I think 738 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: so too. That's did you and I have talked about that. 739 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: A running back wouldn't surprise me at all? Um, just 740 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: I think in large part because this group of running 741 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: backs is really diverse. It's a really diverse group of 742 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: running backs and they do a lot of different things 743 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: that I could absolutely see in it. With that fourth 744 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: pick in the one in the third round, I could 745 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: see them going running back. I wouldn't be shocked at all. 746 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: I agree because to me, the running back position, the 747 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: running game, the way it's stalled out late in the year, 748 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: it's not just because of the running back talent here. 749 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of different things. I mean, they 750 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: have Lamar Millery went to the Pro Bowl. I know 751 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: he's not Barry Sanders, but we had his best season 752 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: as a Texan. I mean it's an ensemble effort. We 753 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: all know that. But you want more talent at that position. 754 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen. With Deonta Foreman 755 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: going into his third his third year, I mean he 756 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: just barely played. Just look at the teams that that 757 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: got to the a FCMC Championship Game. I mean the Chiefs, Yes, 758 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: Damian Williams did take a lot of that, but it 759 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: was Damian Williams and Shark Hendrick West. Uh, they did 760 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: a lot together. You had the Saints with Camaron Ingram 761 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: you had the Rams with Gurley and C. J. Anderson. 762 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: The Patriots throw how many different running backs at you? Yeah? 763 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Options are nice, yeah, really nice, and they didn't have. Yeah, 764 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: and if you know last year the Newingham Patriots one 765 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: of the first rounder with Sony Michelle, and in that 766 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: championship game, he has the first probably twenty twenty five carries. 767 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: I mean he's carrying the ball a lot. But then 768 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, what they do then 769 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: what the Rex birkehead. So they had options in that 770 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: same game in the Super Bowl two years ago, here 771 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: James White caught everything thrown to him. In the Super 772 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: Bowl against the Rams, James White hardly played, so they 773 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: can just mix and match. I like doing that with 774 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: my running shoes. You got to remember the first couple 775 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: of years of Arians when he was really exploding ten 776 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: and eleven, he shared the ball quite a bit with 777 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: Derek Ward and then with Ben Take. I mean Lamar 778 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: Miller got the lion's share of the carries this year, 779 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: and the only reason now for Blue got him was 780 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: because Lamar was hurt. You didn't see much from Deante 781 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: for him in other than those two games. So yeah, 782 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of an atypical year when 783 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: you look at running back carry distribution for the Texans, 784 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: they would like to spread the wealth out a little 785 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: bit more. I mean, my pick would be a receiver, 786 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: because we've talked about I think that's fine because you've 787 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: lost Damarius Thomas, you've got youth, and you've had injuries 788 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: with Fuller and QT. I think that's fine. That's a 789 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: fine pick. The only reason I don't, I mean, I 790 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: agree with you, I think I think there's some sort 791 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: offensive weapon coming in that The only thing that I 792 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: worry about is just the youth in the room, the 793 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: youth that's already there, and then you're putting more youth. 794 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: That's why I wouldn't be surprised if at some point 795 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: they brought in some some veteran that could come in 796 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: and could help. Whether the veteran knows the system or not. 797 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: A veteran it just comes in during the free agency 798 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: period and has that full offseason to work with the 799 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: sean and work with the team. I wouldn't be surprised 800 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: that way, because there's a lot of youth in that 801 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: room still. I mean, yes, DeAndre Hopkins is in there 802 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: and Will's in there, but the thought is, if you're 803 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: bringing in a receiver, it's because you don't totally believe 804 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: that Will is ready to go. So at that point, 805 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: beyond Will, you've got Kiki going into the second year. 806 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: I vincit Smiths second year just a we have second year. 807 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: You're better off because it's their second year, But you 808 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: still have no veteran presence in that room for the 809 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: most part. So now I think I think that's where 810 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 1: you go with that, and then maybe in round or seven, 811 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: maybe you look for the best athlete available at that 812 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver. But all right, one more thing on the 813 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: way out here. The guys this morning spent a long 814 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: time talking about all this conjecture about oh, should the 815 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: Texans go after Antonio Brown and or Levion Bell? And 816 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: I liken this to one of those Hall of Fame debates, 817 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: where is a player hall of Famer or not? And 818 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: your instant gut reaction is very often the right one. 819 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: You know, you say name, It's like Jason Witten, Yes, 820 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. Tony Rommel, No, I 821 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know why I just brought up two cowboys who 822 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 1: became an actress, but it just came into my brain 823 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: that way. So Antonio Brown and or Levion Bell coming 824 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: to the Texans. My gut reaction is, no, are you kidding. 825 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys feel about it. Immediately No, yeah, 826 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean immediately, because you got you got bigger needs elsewhere, 827 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: and I think you could if you improve those needs, 828 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: you're the stuff you have in place is going to 829 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: really flourish. I think Brown could be a real problem 830 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: for a team, just saying, well, here's I mean, they're 831 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: both extremely great. I get me wrong. Here's the thing. 832 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: You know, the Browns sort of build the Texans out 833 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: of taking a big cap hit with brock Oswaller a 834 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: few years ago. The Steelers are sitting on top of 835 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: no matter what happens, no worse than a nineteen million 836 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: dollar deadcap hit with Antonio Brown if they get rid 837 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: of him, trade him, releasing whatever. No team is taking 838 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: a nineteen million dollar deadcap hit, no one, So they're 839 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: just gonna hang onto him and see what happens. I 840 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: guess it'd be the largest dedcap number in history. I'm 841 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: a single player, Yes, I'm a single player. I just 842 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: can't see them doing that. I mean, they let they 843 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: let Levian belstit all year. Yeah, they did, and they're 844 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: willing to not blink. You know, they'll just sit there 845 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: and take their medicine. I don't know though, See big 846 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: Ben is a common denominator here, and I got a 847 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: feeling he's kind of hard to work and play with. 848 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: He's really good, though, so they'll tolerate that. I mean, 849 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: without Big Ben one of the Pittsburgh Steelers. They feel 850 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: like they can make another run or two with him, 851 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: so let it fly. But it's it's really strange to 852 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: me how you got these two, I mean, two of 853 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: the very best at their positions, and they're unhappy. I 854 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: gotta go. They're not willing to play. I mean, it's 855 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: what is going on here? How about this? For them? 856 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: This is most random? But what if Pittsburgh drafted Kyler Murray? Oh, 857 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: that is random, Johnny, he's gonna sit maybe, you know, 858 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger might have made a deal with Biel's above, but 859 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna play till the end of time. I don't know. 860 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: Is that a good reference he might? I'm not sure. 861 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: All right, Drew, we got Texas three sixty tomorrow night. 862 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: Who's odd. It's gonna be a fun one. We've got 863 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: Wade Smith. Way to go over. We're fixing the other line. 864 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: We're fixing the past protection. He's got some good ideas, 865 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: good thoughts on it, and it'll be great. Wait is 866 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: he gonna play. He's not gonna play, but he sure 867 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: was a good one Pro Bowl in two twelve. He 868 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: really came in and helped. Uh like kind of was 869 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: like the last one of those last good pieces on 870 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: that line. Yeah, kind of stabilized thing. Well, you know 871 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: what the great thing about him is he played every 872 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: position on the line, so when he analyzes the line, 873 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: he knows what he's talking about as a center, guard, tackle. 874 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,479 Speaker 1: So he's done it all. And check out Johnny Stuff 875 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot Com. We'll be back on Monday with 876 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: a program on President's Day. Thanks so much for listening. 877 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: Texans three sixty By the way, Saturday night, eleven o'clock, 878 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: ABC thirteen, check it out Withdrew and Wade Smith. Have 879 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: a great weekend and go Texans.