WEBVTT - Old, Aristocratic, and Outdated. Felix Light Talks To Armstrong & Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a fan ish, I don't ever really think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but of the woman Elizabeth. But I am so not

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the monarchy. It's it's it's an evil

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<v Speaker 1>idea that's time passed hundreds of years ago, and why

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<v Speaker 1>does everybody still act like it's a thing. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get off on the discussion since we

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<v Speaker 1>have a gift waiting, but perhaps we'll involve Felix Light

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<v Speaker 1>in the discussion. He as a reporter in London for

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<v Speaker 1>the CBS Radio News in the Moscow Times. Felix, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always a pleasure. How are you, I'm well, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very well. So just so you know what you're stepping

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<v Speaker 1>into if I have no idea what the coverage is

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<v Speaker 1>like over there in England, but here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>it's NonStop, wall the wall on the cable news channels,

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<v Speaker 1>like they haven't taken a breath in twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's all reverence for not only just the woman,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine, although the coverage is too much, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but reverence for the whole idea of the monarchy and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that, which just like I can't wrap my

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<v Speaker 1>hand around and I don't have a set I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had a sense of what the average britt thinks about

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy. Do you have an idea of that? Having

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<v Speaker 1>hung out there in Great Britain a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>I have, Yeah, sure, Well, being a breat so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think people would sort of think of

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy as as almost a sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a national united You know, you can sort of have

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<v Speaker 1>your problems with the idea of monarchy, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our monarchy is not not any way sort of powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>It has no political role, uh, and it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of I guess it's a shared institution that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in principle and not everyone, but certainly I think the

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<v Speaker 1>vast bulk of people are in the country can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of subscribe to. You know, it's it's sort of, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's kind of the the essence of the

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<v Speaker 1>democratic system in a way, right. You know, the queen

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<v Speaker 1>appoints the government, but she must appoint the government or

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<v Speaker 1>the king. Now I'm a point the government, but he

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<v Speaker 1>must appoint a government that you know is um kind

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<v Speaker 1>of responsible to parliament, right and represents the all of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in that way. So I think it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of a democratic constitution, even though it's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a very old and you know, aristocratic and some might

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<v Speaker 1>say outdated idea. We've been discussing this throughout the day

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish this had occurred to me earlier. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are quite a number of nations that have a

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<v Speaker 1>political leader than a ceremonial leader, whether it's Japan or

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<v Speaker 1>um Israel. Uh, they have a president who's essentially just

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<v Speaker 1>a ribbon cutter and a national symbol, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>got a guy who does the nitty gritty and I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose it's did something like that exactly. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no sort of political power invested in the monarchy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, they're there are sort of very strict

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<v Speaker 1>rules for what the monarch sort of has to do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they even though you know in theory

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<v Speaker 1>they're the sort of the top of the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy. You know, they have to defer to the

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<v Speaker 1>prime minister and everything. So you know, it's so sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a little more democratic than you might think looking

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<v Speaker 1>out on the out from the outside, I think, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it will keep on having the luster that

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<v Speaker 1>it's had now that the queen is gone, because there

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<v Speaker 1>were some stories a while back that Prince Charles had

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about opening up um Buckingham Palace is a

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<v Speaker 1>museum and living somewhere else. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>those rumors were true or not. And there are Australian

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaica making noises about Okay, now that she's gone, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to become you know, our own thing. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is going to happen there? Yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think certainly, you know, there's a difference between the institution

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<v Speaker 1>of the monarchy, which I think is is still pretty

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<v Speaker 1>popular in the UK at least, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>queen who sort of popularity ratings I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK and probably you know in the world in the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the the countries that have her as their monarch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's fairly sort of stratosterically popular really, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are obviously going to be problems once

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, there's a kind of a post

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<v Speaker 1>queen monarchy if you like. You know, certainly, I think

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other countries, you know, Australia and New

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<v Speaker 1>Zealand are certainly some of the Caribbean countries might sort

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<v Speaker 1>of abolish the monarchy. But you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>fairly safe in the British context. You know, they're always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be people who don't like it as much

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<v Speaker 1>as other people, but I think that you know, generally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's a pretty firm part of the

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<v Speaker 1>national identity. You know, it's almost like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the constitution in America right like it's it's it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, what the country is, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>what it's founded around. I guess interesting, Felix, like CBS

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<v Speaker 1>Radio News on the Moscow Times from London, Felix, if

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<v Speaker 1>we could switch topics to the situation in Ukraine for

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. There is a fair amount of reporting that

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine's counter offensive, their utilization as some of the weapons

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<v Speaker 1>systems the US has guten them, has been pretty effective.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always a little cautious about over exuberance. Um, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your sense of the situation there in the momentum? Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a pretty dramatic counter offensives that's been

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<v Speaker 1>sort of undertaken by Crane these last of days. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen probably about fifty mile advances, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>this very very strategic part of the front in sort

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<v Speaker 1>of East Ukraine. You know, Russian troops really falling back

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<v Speaker 1>quite considerably, and what you know, what's really important here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is that you have a very real risk

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, a very large part of the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>force and a couple of key towns and are very

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<v Speaker 1>very important and sort of logistical hubs are going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall into include encirclement, right so they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be unable to escape and they'll have sort of Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>forces bearing down on them from all sides. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think this could be a really you know, a really

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<v Speaker 1>important strategic moment in the conflict. You know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what will happen, but certainly, you know, the Russian media,

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<v Speaker 1>which usually keeps a pretty sort of aggressively sort of

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<v Speaker 1>program and you know, everything is fine, narrative on everything

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<v Speaker 1>is not sort of um, it's not very optimistic right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a lot of I think acknowledgement online

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<v Speaker 1>on Russian TV then that there is a serious situation

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<v Speaker 1>developing in this part of Harkiev region. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's it's one of the most sort

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<v Speaker 1>of dramatic times I think for this conflict in March

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<v Speaker 1>or April. Yeah, so what caused the change is that

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<v Speaker 1>the super cool weapons they've been waiting for they finally

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<v Speaker 1>got or what what led to this? Well, yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, the US supplied weapons, especially these

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<v Speaker 1>Hyma systems, which are basically sort of long range rocket systems,

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<v Speaker 1>have been absolutely crucial. You know, they're letting the Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>take out of the bridges, take out AMMO dumps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>long way behind the lines, and really sort of cutting

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian supply lines the pieces there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, you know, a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 1>just because the Russians that you know, the Russians have

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of men and of course of this conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whereas Ukraine has basically called that their entire

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<v Speaker 1>bail population to fight, you know, Russia is almost still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fight this like it's a small war and

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of land far away, you know, and relying

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<v Speaker 1>on its sort of professional volunteer army. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a little bit of an imbalanced there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Ukraine has just got the numbers that Russia

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't at the moment, and I think, you know, Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>just kept probing and eventually they found a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the front that was lightly defended and they just surged through.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got this pretty extraordinary advance over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of days. So you're a huge, huge

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<v Speaker 1>win for them, I think at this stage. Felix Light

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<v Speaker 1>of CBS Radio News and the Moscow Times. Felix again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always great to talk to you. Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for sharing your insights. Well, thank you Armstrong and Jetty