1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm a fan ish, I don't ever really think about it, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: but of the woman Elizabeth. But I am so not 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: a fan of the monarchy. It's it's it's an evil 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: idea that's time passed hundreds of years ago, and why 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: does everybody still act like it's a thing. Well, I 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: don't want to get off on the discussion since we 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: have a gift waiting, but perhaps we'll involve Felix Light 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: in the discussion. He as a reporter in London for 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: the CBS Radio News in the Moscow Times. Felix, it's 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: always a pleasure. How are you, I'm well, thank you 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: very well. So just so you know what you're stepping 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: into if I have no idea what the coverage is 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: like over there in England, but here in the United States, 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: it's NonStop, wall the wall on the cable news channels, 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: like they haven't taken a breath in twenty four hours. 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: And it's all reverence for not only just the woman, 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: which is fine, although the coverage is too much, um, 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: but reverence for the whole idea of the monarchy and 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: everything like that, which just like I can't wrap my 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: hand around and I don't have a set I've never 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: had a sense of what the average britt thinks about 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the monarchy. Do you have an idea of that? Having 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: hung out there in Great Britain a lot more than 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, sure, Well, being a breat so to speak, 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: you know, I think people would sort of think of 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: the monarchy as as almost a sort of you know, 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: a national united You know, you can sort of have 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: your problems with the idea of monarchy, but you know, 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: our monarchy is not not any way sort of powerful. 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: It has no political role, uh, and it's just a 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: sort of I guess it's a shared institution that you know, 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: in principle and not everyone, but certainly I think the 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: vast bulk of people are in the country can kind 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: of subscribe to. You know, it's it's sort of, um, 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of the the essence of the 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: democratic system in a way, right. You know, the queen 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: appoints the government, but she must appoint the government or 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: the king. Now I'm a point the government, but he 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: must appoint a government that you know is um kind 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: of responsible to parliament, right and represents the all of 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: the people in that way. So I think it's you know, 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: it's part of a democratic constitution, even though it's obviously 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: a very old and you know, aristocratic and some might 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: say outdated idea. We've been discussing this throughout the day 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: and I wish this had occurred to me earlier. But 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: there are quite a number of nations that have a 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: political leader than a ceremonial leader, whether it's Japan or 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: um Israel. Uh, they have a president who's essentially just 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: a ribbon cutter and a national symbol, and then they 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: got a guy who does the nitty gritty and I 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: suppose it's did something like that exactly. You know, there's 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: no sort of political power invested in the monarchy. It's 53 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: or you know, they're there are sort of very strict 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: rules for what the monarch sort of has to do, 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, and they even though you know in theory 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: they're the sort of the top of the top of 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: the hierarchy. You know, they have to defer to the 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: prime minister and everything. So you know, it's so sort 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: of a little more democratic than you might think looking 60 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: out on the out from the outside, I think, do 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: you think it will keep on having the luster that 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: it's had now that the queen is gone, because there 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: were some stories a while back that Prince Charles had 64 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: been talking about opening up um Buckingham Palace is a 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: museum and living somewhere else. And I don't know if 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: those rumors were true or not. And there are Australian 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Jamaica making noises about Okay, now that she's gone, we 68 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: need to become you know, our own thing. What do 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: you think is going to happen there? Yeah, well, I 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: think certainly, you know, there's a difference between the institution 71 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: of the monarchy, which I think is is still pretty 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: popular in the UK at least, and you know, the 73 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: queen who sort of popularity ratings I think in the 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: UK and probably you know in the world in the 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: sort of the the countries that have her as their monarch. 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's fairly sort of stratosterically popular really, you know, um, 77 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, there are obviously going to be problems once 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: sort of you know, there's a kind of a post 79 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: queen monarchy if you like. You know, certainly, I think 80 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: some of the other countries, you know, Australia and New 81 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Zealand are certainly some of the Caribbean countries might sort 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: of abolish the monarchy. But you know, I think it's 83 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: fairly safe in the British context. You know, they're always 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: going to be people who don't like it as much 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: as other people, but I think that you know, generally, 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a pretty firm part of the 87 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: national identity. You know, it's almost like I don't know 88 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the constitution in America right like it's it's it's part 89 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: of you know, what the country is, you know, and 90 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: what it's founded around. I guess interesting, Felix, like CBS 91 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: Radio News on the Moscow Times from London, Felix, if 92 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: we could switch topics to the situation in Ukraine for 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: a moment. There is a fair amount of reporting that 94 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Ukraine's counter offensive, their utilization as some of the weapons 95 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: systems the US has guten them, has been pretty effective. 96 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm always a little cautious about over exuberance. Um, what's 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: your sense of the situation there in the momentum? Yeah, well, 98 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a pretty dramatic counter offensives that's been 99 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: sort of undertaken by Crane these last of days. You know, 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: we've seen probably about fifty mile advances, you know, in 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: this very very strategic part of the front in sort 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: of East Ukraine. You know, Russian troops really falling back 103 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: quite considerably, and what you know, what's really important here, 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: I think is that you have a very real risk 105 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: that you know, a very large part of the Russian 106 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: force and a couple of key towns and are very 107 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: very important and sort of logistical hubs are going to 108 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: fall into include encirclement, right so they are going to 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: be unable to escape and they'll have sort of Ukrainian 110 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: forces bearing down on them from all sides. So I 111 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: think this could be a really you know, a really 112 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: important strategic moment in the conflict. You know, we don't 113 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: know what will happen, but certainly, you know, the Russian media, 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: which usually keeps a pretty sort of aggressively sort of 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: program and you know, everything is fine, narrative on everything 116 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: is not sort of um, it's not very optimistic right now. 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of I think acknowledgement online 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: on Russian TV then that there is a serious situation 119 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: developing in this part of Harkiev region. So you know, 120 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's one of the most sort 121 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: of dramatic times I think for this conflict in March 122 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: or April. Yeah, so what caused the change is that 123 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: the super cool weapons they've been waiting for they finally 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: got or what what led to this? Well, yeah, definitely, 125 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: I think you know, the US supplied weapons, especially these 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: Hyma systems, which are basically sort of long range rocket systems, 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: have been absolutely crucial. You know, they're letting the Ukrainian 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: take out of the bridges, take out AMMO dumps, you know, 129 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: long way behind the lines, and really sort of cutting 130 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: the Russian supply lines the pieces there. But you know, 131 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know, a lot of it's 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: just because the Russians that you know, the Russians have 133 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: lost a lot of men and of course of this conflict, 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: you know, whereas Ukraine has basically called that their entire 135 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: bail population to fight, you know, Russia is almost still 136 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: trying to fight this like it's a small war and 137 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: a sort of land far away, you know, and relying 138 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: on its sort of professional volunteer army. You know, there's 139 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of an imbalanced there. 140 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, Ukraine has just got the numbers that Russia 141 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: doesn't at the moment, and I think, you know, Ukraine 142 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: just kept probing and eventually they found a part of 143 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: the front that was lightly defended and they just surged through. 144 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: And you've got this pretty extraordinary advance over the course 145 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: of a couple of days. So you're a huge, huge 146 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: win for them, I think at this stage. Felix Light 147 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: of CBS Radio News and the Moscow Times. Felix again, 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: it's always great to talk to you. Thanks so much 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: for sharing your insights. Well, thank you Armstrong and Jetty