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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. It's my favorite murder the minuisode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you know what we do here? Well, we're about

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Speaker 1: to show you.

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Speaker 2: We're going to show you and tell you.

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Speaker 3: We're going to tell you, but first show you, yues

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Speaker 3: those things. I'm first, right, you're first. I'm not reading

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Speaker 3: you this, dae. This email has been sitting in.

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Speaker 2: My drafts folder for forever.

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Speaker 3: But you guys just asked for fucked up bone stories

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Speaker 3: basically calling me out. This sounds fake. I promise it isn't.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it, shall we. I grew up in

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Speaker 3: South San Jose Hey, Norca, in a suburban neighborhood of

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Speaker 3: tract homes that were built in the early seventies. I

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Speaker 3: was in second grade at the time of this incident,

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Speaker 3: making it about nineteen ninety one. On Tewish nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: one or two. It was a Sunday and my dad

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Speaker 3: was setting about to transplant a bush from the front

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Speaker 3: yard to the backyard. I scampered off down the street

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Speaker 3: to play with friends before I could be roped into

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Speaker 3: any sort of forced labor. Apparently, the proper procedure for

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Speaker 3: transplanting a bush involves digging around the roots and attempting

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Speaker 3: able to survive in its new home.

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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Speaker 3: The first shovelful or two passed uneventfully, but something small

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Speaker 2: Up with the third.

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Speaker 3: My dad picked up the object to examine it more

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Speaker 3: closely and found himself holding a bone. Maybe a previous

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Speaker 3: owner of our home had buried a beloved family pet

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Speaker 3: in the front yard. In true Dad fashion, he set

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Speaker 3: The next shovelful of dirt, however, cleared up any pet

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Speaker 3: cemetery questions. There peeking out from under the damn bush

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Speaker 3: was a human skull. There was a whole dead person

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Speaker 3: in our front yard.

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Speaker 2: It's worse. I looked up from playing down the street

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Speaker 3: A cop card my drive way. Lots of police came,

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Speaker 3: A coroner came. They dug up the rest of the skeleton,

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Speaker 3: which was about a foot and a half below the

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Speaker 3: that this was no recently buried body. In fact, it

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Speaker 3: had been there for a very very long time. Unbeknownst

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Speaker 3: to us or anyone else in our neighborhood, our unassuming

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Speaker 3: tract homes had been built unceremoniously upon a traditional native

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Speaker 2: No, this is the plot of Poulter.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Is this person lying?

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Speaker 1: They just moved a headstone. Yeah, that's why they said

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a live right, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The skeleton that had been unearthed in our yard was

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Speaker 3: that of a mewekma Aloney man in his thirties who

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Speaker 3: had passed hundreds of years before.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: As a second grader, I was thrilled that ours was

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Speaker 3: the most interesting house on the street for a while.

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Speaker 3: We even made it into the newspaper. A group of

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Speaker 3: archaeology students from San Jose State spent the summer combing

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they ever found anything. We were

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Speaker 3: the fate of the skeleton had to be determined. His descendants'

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Speaker 3: be moved to the graveyard at Mission San Jose or

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Speaker 3: be reburied in our front yard since it was his

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Speaker 3: Nice stay sex again, Maybe you don't build houses on

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Speaker 3: someone else's sacred ground.

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Speaker 2: Marissa, she her, that's wild, I know.

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Speaker 1: And then what a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: That they did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's where that person belongs. Like, oh my god, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the effects of we were just in Oakland, right. It

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Speaker 1: just says what's up? MFM fam. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: a small suburb of the Bay Area named Melbray. I

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Speaker 1: Almost all of my cousins grew up in Milbury. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Milbray was where like three or four of my uncles

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Speaker 1: We spent lots of time in Milbray growing up, so

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Speaker 1: I think your town is cool. Okay, so at some

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Speaker 1: slash ceilings, and boy, do I have one for you.

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Speaker 1: At my high school, once you hit your senior year,

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Speaker 1: was taught by mister L, who was always full of

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Speaker 1: to its halfway point, we noticed mister L disappearing a

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Speaker 2: Eh, what a creep.

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Speaker 1: He first convinced the yearbook teacher to switch storage closets

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Speaker 1: with him, which was conveniently located next to the bathrooms,

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Speaker 1: That's so fucking they didn't kill them in They didn't

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Speaker 1: because don't you just have to replace that one tile?

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Speaker 1: Just leave the fuck And we even saw the entry

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Speaker 2: Whoa.

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Speaker 1: It turns out mister L wasn't the energetic, cool teacher.

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Speaker 1: He was a child predator whose energy was in fact

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Speaker 1: fueled by meth. Fuck wow, second shoe drop. After he

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Speaker 3: Oh this is recent then I was picturing like the seventies,

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Speaker 3: So he was posting this shit.

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Speaker 1: No, he wasn't posting that. It doesn't look like. After

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Speaker 1: we found videos of meth fueled ramblings.

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Speaker 2: Oh dear, those are the worst kind of ramblings.

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Speaker 1: I thought our content was cringe, so we should definitely

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, fan call, hey, fan call, This one's just for you.

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Speaker 1: It's us in the nineties, fan called exclusive field. I

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Speaker 1: have some more insane stories from my wife who grew

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Speaker 1: up in a religious cult that tried to resurrect a

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Speaker 1: I'll save that for another time. Stay sexy and hug

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Speaker 1: the nurses in your life, because they probably need it

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Speaker 1: these days. Sarah, Wow, that's just so fucked up.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's from the seventies or eighties, like

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Speaker 1: That's a recent one and it's a real problem. And

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of those? Yeah, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, just know that if somebody's like, what did

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Speaker 2: On, don't say anything stupid.

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Speaker 1: Then you just start singing any Disney song.

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Speaker 3: Right because you can't it's so smart. Okay, here's my

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Speaker 3: next one. I'm not going to read you the title. Hey, besties,

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Speaker 3: I'm here today to tell you a story from my

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Speaker 3: family history.

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Speaker 2: This is all about fucking the witch trials.

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Speaker 3: In the year of our Lord, sixteen ninety two in Salem, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Could have done something. Believe in what was happening. Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Also, just it's so sad that he didn't come in time.

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Speaker 1: But then what she did actually saved a bunch of

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Speaker 3: I have known about Mary and my connection to her

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Speaker 3: Several years after the Salem trials, Sarah Klois was given

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Speaker 3: three sovereign coins in reparations, which would be about four

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Speaker 1: Four dollars in the seventeen yards would be around eighty

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Speaker 2: Three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Oh so yes, sorry, the state murdered your sisters. But

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Anywo three sisters, which is in Salem? Sound familiar?

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: My ancestors served as the real live inspiration for the

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Speaker 3: Sanderson Sisters from the legendary Hocus Pocus.

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Speaker 2: Holy shit out girl. Alright, know, it says, fuck patriarch,

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Speaker 2: you for real.

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Speaker 3: I love you, ladies and all you stand for, and

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to continue my family legacy of being a

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Speaker 3: out mouth bitch who has to be hung to shut

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Speaker 3: up and submit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Allie, she her, that's right, Allie Yah, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: What a Oh my god, what a legacy. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: dang Alli got a great one.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The subject line of this email stop storming off when

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Speaker 1: you're drunk.

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Speaker 2: I've done that.

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Speaker 3: We just brought some bad fucking memories up real quick.

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Speaker 3: I mean you brought some bad like I'm so lucky

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Speaker 3: I'm not dead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, well here we got it because God, and away

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Speaker 1: Look, listen, I was not a well behaved teen, you

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Speaker 1: I was lucky all caps, lucky that my friends were nearby,

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Speaker 2: Oh my shit.

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Speaker 1: Hope to meet you both someday. Stay sexy and don't

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Speaker 3: I can't even blame my mom. Being a teen I

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh my god. Fuck that tell us your stories,

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Speaker 1: I know, yes, exactly. We can all collectively shudder about

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Speaker 3: This is called my toddler Sees Dead people, Greetings, accolades

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Speaker 1: you so much for speaking so vehemently about mental health.

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Speaker 3: Ay, what I've always had that such a trip, Like

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Speaker 2: Was just so fucking weird, Like, yeah, to see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, right, because it just wasn't the norm for you.

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Speaker 3: I love for you and Irene stories, but I don't

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Speaker 3: like that this poor stuff dad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the kind of thing where like that

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Speaker 1: mother must have it's not just guilt. I bet she

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Speaker 1: was overwhelmed with the synchronicity where it's like it's just

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Speaker 1: want that to happen. No, you just oh, yeah, God, messy,

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Speaker 1: so messy.

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Speaker 3: Send us your messy family stories at my favorite murder

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Speaker 3: at Gmail. The messier the better.

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Speaker 1: The messier the better. I remember seeing a woman who

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Speaker 1: and so's dad's new girlfriend. And the girlfriend looks exactly

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Speaker 1: Mario goes Karen, you never know what people are gonna do,

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Speaker 1: Like he gave this thing as if he had been

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Speaker 2: A type and they stick even adults.

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Speaker 1: You never know what people are gonna do. I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's very true.

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