WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Stern Dad vs. Fun Uncle 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:06.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:16.040 Cowboys, Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:16.600 Yes? 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:21.720 Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:23.639 And so much for that. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:28.040 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.559 We were on Break with Ambar Garcia. Brian brought us 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.000 Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:42.200 It is Wednesday, February fourteenth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.400 episode number one hundred and twelve. Welcome to the latest 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.840 edition of The Break. It is a special Valentine's edition 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.640 of The Break. Brian's not here today, but got plenty 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.879 of love for you guys with Patrick No C Walker 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:57.160 and Amber Garcia. And so today we got a lot 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.600 we're going to get into. We're going to talk about 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.120 the defensive coordinator. Cowboys just get their new defensive coordinator. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.480 We're going to talk about the defensive coordinator in Washington, 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.399 UH and the head coach there, and talk about how 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.280 we think that affect us and other NFC East movings. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.040 H when you talk about some of the coaches that 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.479 have been hired in Philadelphia as well. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.919 And then we'll see we will see if we'll get. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.440 To the conversation on Dak Prescott. 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.399 I'm not sure it will, but it's on the rundown. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:25.640 So if we get to it, we get to it, 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.920 and if we don't, guess what, it'll roll right over 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.240 the next week, and if there's not more news next week, 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:32.680 then we'll hit it next week. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:32.960 All right. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.120 At some point that pitch gets old. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.680 You know, yeah, but that's not going anywhere. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.600 No, no, no, I know, I know. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.800 But the fact that Derek mentions it every. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.240 Week, it's because marketing, right, he knows what he's doing. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.320 Man, I've been doing this a while. Keep keep them 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.120 on this a while. Slow, all right, let's jump in 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.760 Mike Zimmer, new defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys a 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.120 week press conference to. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:58.680 Day at two two pm Central time. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.120 All right, cool, and Amber will have a question, and 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.680 I'm sure you'll have a few questions from mister Zimmer, but. 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.400 Ask him Spanish right out of the gate. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.320 That would actually be pretty interesting, is like she just 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.560 jumped right out the gate and just asks the question 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.160 Spanish and just sits back and waits, and everybody in 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:15.160 the room would probably just be. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.559 Like, what would be even better as if he replied 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.679 in Spanish, that would be that will be all right. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.079 So we talked about this a little bit last week. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.080 Was this the right decision for the Cowboys for me? 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:28.480 Yes? 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.720 And you know, when going back to last week, when 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.240 you asked us to rank the candidates that the Cowboys 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.360 were interested in, I had Mike Zimmer right up there 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.120 alongside Wink Martindale. Martindale obviously has now gone to be 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.400 the DC of the Michigan Wolverines. Congratulations to win Martindale. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.280 But I'm right here with Mike Zimmer. I had him 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.440 ranked far above Rivera and that much farther above Rex 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.600 Ryan because of the lack of experience over the past 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.480 seven or eight years with Ryan, with Ryan being in 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.880 the broadcast booth versus being on an NFL sideline. Also 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.560 of the fact that Zimmer versus Ryan Ryan was more 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.200 of an AFC coach. Zimmer comes in as an NFC coach, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.200 knows how to navigate it. I get your point, Derek. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.720 There's been some turnover obviously in the NFC, but the 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.400 conference is still the conference and he's familiar with it, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.880 and I feel like he's going to come in and 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.120 I spoke last week also about the culture shock that's 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.680 probably gonna happen. I think it'll be a positive for 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.120 this Cowboys locker room, going from Dan Quinn, who's a 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.120 players coach. Obviously we love dan Quinn, but when you 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.720 look at Zimmer, he's more of that old school ball coach, 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.360 tough nose, holding guys accountable. I think this is the 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.960 right time and the right personality for this Cowboys defense. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.200 Did you say tough nose, tough nose, hard nose, you know, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:42.800 tough hard synonyms? 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:43.760 Was the writer here? 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.600 Yeah, I know that's what I'm messing with. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.920 The writer supposedly. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.920 Oh did you say supposedly or supposedly, because that's gonna 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.560 be a fun right either way. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.640 That's not there's no supposedly. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.120 And this is in reference to the game we played 0:03:58.320 --> 0:03:59.360 weeks ago. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.200 I just want to make sure you didn't say supposedly, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:03.760 because then we. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.040 Gotta okay, man, you got to come with it on 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.040 this shows nothing. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.200 You guys attack me. I attacked that. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:12.360 Let's just call this. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:18.520 I play defense and this guy, Mike Zimmer. I think 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.120 he was my top candidatey. I think he brings the 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:25.800 balance of the two things that I was looking for one, 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.440 having somebody from the outside, the outside experience, but also 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.640 an insider experience because he spent so many years here 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:39.480 with the Cowboys. Again, very very different times. There's like 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.400 not many people probably that are still working here from 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.640 the time he was here, you know the other yeah 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:51.080 you oh man, No, there's a lot of staff members still, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.000 but there's been a huge turn, not a lot. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.440 that's what I'm trying to say. And obviously very very 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.159 different players, uh, different build then back then he was 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.200 Vallei Wrench. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.279 So yeah, so it's. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.360 A whole new different environment, but that he's not necessarily 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.600 a stranger too completely, so that's good. He brings the experience, 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.480 he brings that toughness that we talked about, but also 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.080 talking to different people around the building because initially my 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.320 first impression just from things that I've heard initially was 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:24.960 that he was just like one. 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.840 Of those mean guys. But he has like a. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.520 Combination of both things where he's actually what I hear, 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.360 he's actually a pretty nice guy, but he will bring 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.360 the toughness that is needed when it's needed. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:42.120 So it has that balance as well there that I like. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:47.120 And yeah, just looking forward, looking forward to what this 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.480 is gonna actually look like and translate to when he 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:52.920 steps in here and starts coaching. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.560 Yeah, he reminds me of I guess the best way 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.680 to put it is, you know what old school, like, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.520 my old high school code was like like the kind 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.000 of guy that you knew he cared about you, but 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.600 he also could pull out the paddle and uh and. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.680 Make sure they. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.719 Don't know this is a different error. Y'all don't know 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.840 about that. Yeah, Like it was. The principal when I 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:18.760 was in school was the person that basically regulated the school. 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.600 And I'm sorry, not the principal, the coach, football coach 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.400 if you played football, then your teachers, if you weren't 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.280 doing what you're supposed to do in class, they didn't 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.520 go to the principal, They didn't go to counselors. They 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.520 went to the coach and they said, hey, coach, this 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.359 student isn't doing what they're supposed to do. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.280 And the coach would literally. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.800 Come and you would see him kind of peaking your 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.559 class and be like I need this student for a minute, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.000 and then you're gonna go see the coach. Yeah, you're 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.800 gonna go see the coach, and the coach is going 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.880 to take care of that. And it might be paddling, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.640 it might be you're gonna run. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:47.920 Do some extra work to you. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:49.040 Oh yeah. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.479 And and guess back in those days, not only did 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.520 coach paddle you, then coach would call. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.120 Your mama and then you go home and then mom 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.880 would take care of you too, or daddy would take 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.560 whatever it was. Man, it was just it was a 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:02.160 different world. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.280 My point is, I'm not thinking he's going to be 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.840 pulling out the paddle around here. But my point is 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.840 I would characterize Mike Zimmer as the kind of guy 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.720 that is hard but fear And I heard somebody say 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:12.960 that was. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.760 A quote that that Parcels gave about him. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.680 He's a hard coach, so he's gonna coach you hard, 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.000 but he's gonna be fair. And I think the players 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.720 will respect him, and I think the players will know 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.840 that he has their best interests at heart. But he's 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.280 not gonna let things slide. He's gonna hold them accountable 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.120 to the things that he's asking them to do. He's 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.600 gonna explain it well. He's gonna hold him accountable to 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.800 doing those jobs really well. And I think that's something 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.040 that this defense can use. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.600 And I think that that's what I'm hoping will help 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.440 take care of those penalties. And we've talked about it before, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:46.400 were my issue there, and I know it's difficult because sometimes, Okay, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.520 who else do you got that you're going to decide 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:50.680 to sit someone out or whatever, But it's like, what 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.040 does that look like during the week as well, what 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.000 kind of discipline or something that you're trying to do 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.800 to make a change. And it wasn't reflected throughout the season. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.920 So that's an I expect where someone like him, I'm 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:07.960 hoping would not let things like that slide all a 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:08.680 full season. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.600 Now I can pretty much attest to the fact that 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.320 just in speaking with some people who covered the beating 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.600 in Minnesota, who covered the beat continuingly in Minnesota in 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.440 the Mike zimmer era, and some of the players that 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.400 played under him penalties for example, going back to what 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.400 I said as far as holding guys accountable, if you're 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.800 not making those corrections on a weekly basis, and you're 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.960 consistently costing the team and the defensive unit drives that 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.160 they should have gotten off the field on third down, 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.280 but now they're still on the field, you're going to 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.800 lose snaps under Mike Zimmer, He's going to sit you 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.520 down until you get the point. And that's again, that's 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.440 exactly what the Cowboys need because if you look at 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.600 last season, you lead the league in penalties. They were 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.280 one of the team one of the league leaders in 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.440 penalties season before. So again, love with dan Quinn brought 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.480 to the equation. But when you talk about Zimmer, you're 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:58.880 talking about a coach who is and I love the 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.640 fact that you use the word respe He is so 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.640 well respected because his resume is stellar. He comes in 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.480 with the Super Bowl ring and by the way, there's 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.280 a Cowboys star on that Super Bowl ring. He's coached 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.760 Hall of Famers, Ring of Honor guys. So there's the 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.080 respect that comes with the ability for him to come 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.480 in and say, I don't really care how much you're 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:17.440 getting paid, I don't really care what the name on 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.200 your jersey is. If you continue with these self inflicted 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.160 wounds and these you know, these penalties, neutral zone infractions 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.280 and things like that, you're not going to be on 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:26.280 my field. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.000 And there are big name. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.320 Guys who have played under Zimmer who can attest to 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.160 that and say, you know what, until I got my 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.319 act together, he would sit me no, and I'm sitting 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.880 here thinking, hey, I'm you know, the big dog in 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:42.040 the locker room. Big dog versus Mike Zimmer. Mike Zimmer 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.319 wins that. And that's why, for the most part, you 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.080 will hear a lot of players that loved playing under him, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.640 But there's just as many players who also love playing 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.600 under him, who will look you in the face and say, hey, 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.640 I remember a time he came to me and basically intimated, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.880 I don't care who you are. If you don't get 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.920 this corrected, you're not going to be on this field. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.520 So when it comes to a accountability plus respect, he 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.520 gets both of those things. 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The segment brought 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.439 to you by blockchain dot Com. All right, let's talk 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.760 about this Mike, Mike. Let's talk about Mike Zimmer, new 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.960 defensive coordinator of the Cowboys. From the standpoint of we 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.640 talked about how tough he'll be. We talked about how 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.520 he'll hold people accountable. My question for you is, is 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.720 his style do you think his style can be a 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.320 problem for the Cowboys? Knowing that today's players very different 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.800 than the players he may have coached in the past, 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.400 certainly back when he was here with the Cowboys. The 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.280 player of today they go through a different world where 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.280 there's a lot more thought for, you know, how they're 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.440 feeling and worried about their feelings a lot more than 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:45.720 what it was when. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.199 Maybe he was coaching here before. 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.000 Now, let's not act like when he was coaching in Minnesota, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:51.800 players were a lot different than they are. So he's 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.960 had some experience there. But I think players every year 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.679 get a little bit more different, you know what I 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.720 mean by that? And so what do you think could 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:00.720 be the algies here? 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:01.520 What do you think? 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.439 Well, there are a lot of different layers and aspects 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.320 to this. I would say one thing is I like 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.800 the balance And Derek, you brought this up. I believe 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.720 it was last week where you talked about Mike McCarthy 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.880 and in the way and we've seen it, the way 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.200 that he's catered to the players and their mental health 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:25.160 and just kind of making sure that they're good internally. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.880 And I think Mike McCarthy with the combination of him, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.240 could be a good balance where you just kind of 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.200 everybody keeps each other kind of in check. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:36.760 Hey, come down or you you know. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.360 But at the same time, I do agree in today's society, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.320 feelings do get hurt a lot more. We take things 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.680 a lot differently now, and players and people in general 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.120 have a lot more pride, and you're like, no, you're 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.640 not going to talk to me that way. But at 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.160 the same time, when you're competing and playing and in 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.680 this business, in this sports, for you to have that 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.320 kind of demeanor too and stand up for yourself in 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.840 that way, your work has to back it up too, 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.360 you know, when you're and I'm saying, when you're surrounded 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.440 in front of other players, like there's a reason certain 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:17.160 things were accepted from certain certain players throughout history, just 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.600 because their work was spoke for themselves, right, And you're like, okay, well, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.320 so I don't know. It's just a very tough balance. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.800 I think it would be, okay. And my concern would 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:31.560 be if the players end up not respecting him and 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:32.440 lose respect. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.640 And then now people are. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:40.320 Venting on Twitter and we know certain people like to Yeah, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.920 people like to take things to Twitter and start commenting 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.560 and airing things out, and then that causes drama. The 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.000 media is fitting into it, and now you just have 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.440 this whole division and drama in the throughout the season. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.760 That's a huge problem. But given the stakes, given the scenarios, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.760 given the way and the embarres man that the season ended, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.320 I would be embarrassed to as a player to where 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.520 you just keep your head down and do the work 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.880 and do the grind, and there's no reason, like, we're 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.800 all in this together, we're fighting for the same goal. 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:16.080 There's no reason for anybody to kind of be be 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:23.320 be you know what I'm trying to say, So just 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.840 do the work, do the work, and hopefully everyone can 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.680 just come together and not create any drama. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.360 So anyone who follows me knows I am a massive 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.680 advocate for mental health, and I will say that in 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.640 conjunction with I'm a competitor myself, and I've played, you know, 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:45.360 all all types of major sports, so I understand there 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.640 has to be the balance of respecting who you're talking to. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.400 Especially these are adults. These are not college these kids, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.520 these are not high school kids. These are adults who 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.040 are being paid millions and millions of dollars. But in 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.320 saying that, that means that the adult who's being paid 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.440 millions of millions of dollars also had to have the 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.960 respect that this feedback is coming from a good place, 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.320 and you have to be able to understand that, because, 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.880 like you said, Ambar, if you can have your feelings, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.280 which is completely you're entitled to your feelings, You're entitled 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.000 to voice those feelings one hundred percent, but you also 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.680 have to understand the context of where the feedback is coming. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.640 So if you're not playing up to par and you're 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.919 getting this feedback, you need to be more receptive of 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.000 why you're getting the feedback. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:25.600 It's because you're not playing up to par. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.720 So sometimes you know, as much as we need to 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.640 make sure that we're walking the line and respecting everyone's 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.719 mental health, sometimes tough love is just needed. Sometimes you 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.719 have to look someone in the face, be to you know, 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.920 your mom, your dad, your cousin, your brother, your sister, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:41.760 and say I love you to death, but you are 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.800 really really messing up here. Let's sit down and let's 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.639 talk about what we can do to get better. And 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.280 you also have to be receptive of that. So when 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:50.840 it comes to Zimmer, I think he'll have a good 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.879 balance to that, because, like you said, it's not that 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.959 he's been out of the league since the nineties. He 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.560 recently coached the Minnesota Viking, so he's not too far 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.360 removed from this. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.560 Brand of NFL player. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.840 But going to the McCarthy aspect as well, I think 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.000 it'll be a nice balance of good cop bad cop. 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.760 And I kind of hesitate to put a good cop 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.560 on McCarthy because that's an Irish guy from Pittsburgh. He 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.000 can get bad cop, but I think Zimmer can get 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.520 good cop as well. I think they'll play very well 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.320 alongside each other. I think it's yin and yanging. On 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.800 any given moment, it might be McCarthy tearing into somebody 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.800 and then Zimmer comes behind him and says, well, this 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.080 is what coach was trying to say, and vice versa. 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.480 Sometimes it'll be Zimmer saying, what the blank are you 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.160 doing out there, and then McArthur come behind him and say, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.440 this is what he's trying to say. I think those 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.919 two guys, and especially with the accomplishments and the resume 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.360 that they have, I think you have to respect as 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.520 an NFL player, and especially as a Cowboys defensive player 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.320 who is coming off of a performance that you came 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.440 off of against the Green Bay Packers. You're not entirely 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.240 in a position to say that you don't like the feedback. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.000 You need to take the feedback and then try to 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.680 grow from it. So I think it'll work out well. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:55.960 Yeah. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.000 I think the interesting thing here is I think for 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.399 any coach, I think the real difference to me and 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.280 this is based on like the And obviously I know 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.600 football players are very different than creatives, but I managed creatives. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.720 And one of the things I've learned over time with 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.000 how you deal with creative versus how we dealt with 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.640 them back in the day is relationships matter. The more 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.520 you spend time with people, the more you get to 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:19.640 know them, the. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:20.240 Easier it is. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.119 And it's never going to be easy, but it easier 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.719 it is to be able to give hard feedback. And 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.200 unless you have the relationship, people don't hear you as much. 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.040 In today's WAFT, the young folks, they don't listen as 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.800 well to you if you don't have the relationship, and 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.680 you're just always coming down on me. And I think that's 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.040 the key here, Like I don't think. I don't think 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:39.600 Zimmer's the kind of guy that's just going to be 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.840 demeaning players to do young players. I think it's about accountability. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.560 And so if the player knows coach just told me 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.960 yesterday I needed to do X, Y and Z, and 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.679 the end of the day in practice, I'm not doing X, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.880 Y and Z, and he just went off, I think 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.600 they can accept the fact that exactly this is accountability 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.560 at work, Like this is a situation where I'm not 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.000 doing exactly what he told me he needed me to do, 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.520 and I'm getting a wrath of that right now. So 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.480 I think as long as it's as long as it's 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.679 built around true accountability and not just demeaning to be 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.120 to be demeaning. And again, I do think relationships matter. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.080 I think his ability to be able to get to 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.040 know as players and develop that relationship to where they 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.159 do respect him in a way they respect him as 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.200 a man first before a coach, right, I think when 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.720 that happens, I think that's a way that he will 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.840 probably deal better. And I think all coaches, anybody that's 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.000 in a leadership position, has to deal with younger people because, 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.000 as you said, you know now parents ask their kids 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.320 how they grow up in an environment where the parents 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.720 ask them, So tell me how you're feeling. A lot 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.199 of kids in my generation didn't get that. It was like, 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.880 do what I said, and that's it. I don't care 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:43.800 how you feel about it. 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:45.760 So it just changed. The world has changed, and so 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:46.920 you have to be aware of that. And I think 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:48.680 you have to approach people in that way. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.040 There's a fine line. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.320 And this is just something that popped into my head 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:56.000 right now that I find an interesting concept. For example, 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.359 dan Quinn, he's and I love dyn Quinn. He's a 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.320 player's coach. He's super like down there to their level, 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.040 goes down and is next to them doing things, going 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:08.440 through drills or things like that. 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.080 We know that, but maybe a. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.600 Different guy like Zimmer brings a different aspect. To let 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.240 me try to illustrate this for as an example, and 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.399 I would assume this has happened to a lot of 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.119 other people too, But for example me, I love kids. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.960 I will be with every single kid that I see 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.119 and I'll be playing and I like lower myself to 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.640 their levels and we become buddies. And there are times 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.560 that they cross the line. I'm like whoa, wha, Hold on, 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.600 hold on, we're not we're not on the same level. 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.680 Hold I'm back cup a second little kid exactly. Or 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.919 another scenario. There was one time I had a trainer 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.920 that he was too friendly with me. We became's buddy 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.199 and like I didn't, I'm like, no, I'm done with 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.639 the reps. Like I did, I took him more as like, Okay, 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.159 we're too buddy. But you need someone that has that 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.520 kind of toughness sometimes. So what I'm trying to say 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:01.920 is interesting to think about the balance between those relationships, 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.520 because although you do want someone that can connect to 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.800 you and be that guy in that closeness, you do 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.359 need that kind of like straight I think that. 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:13.800 The best way to illustrate it. 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.840 What popped in my head is it's the stern dad 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.480 versus the fun uncle, right, And it feels like Dan Quinn, 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.119 as much as we love him, it was more the 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.119 fun uncle's. It's the one that when you're you know, 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.719 you're a kid, and the fun uncle comes over and 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.320 you have so much respect for him because he's your uncle, right, 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.000 But it's more of the fun personal conversations. 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:33.400 Kind of go out of the way. 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.399 It's like oh, uncle's here, right, But you also know 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.600 that at a certain Pointunk's going to check you. But 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.399 there's a lot more leeway as far as the fund 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.520 is concerned. And that's why dan Quinn is such a 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.720 player's coach, whereas Zimmer it's the stern dad. Not to 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.919 say that stern necessarily means bad, but stern in that 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.840 I'm going to give you these instructions. I need you 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.440 to follow these instructions, and if you don't follow these instructions, 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.800 we need to have a conversation about why these instructions 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.480 weren't followed. And it's more so that spect So I 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.280 really think that the fun uncle has left the building, 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.439 the stern dad is coming in, and that's what this 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:06.840 locker room kind of needs to get used to. 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.720 The one thing I do want to clarify, though, is 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.920 I don't necessarily want to characterize dan Quinn as someone 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:12.880 that didn't hold play. 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.680 That's what we That's what I keep saying. 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.480 I think we need to make that clear because I 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.360 think I think he can easily he could easily put 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.399 it into either you are or you aren't. 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:24.639 Like I think it's just a different way that he 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:25.040 did it. 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:27.359 I think Zimmer's way is, as you said, a lot, 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.080 a lot more stern, or at least what I've seen, right, 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.000 and what players who have played for him have told me, like, 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.720 he's just done much more to the point, very direct, 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.439 very stern, here's what I need you to do, and 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.520 then holding players accountable to that and may not have 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:43.720 a lot of more of the touchy feely kind of 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:45.639 stuff in his repertoire school. 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.760 And then Quinn he's he's older too, but he is 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.040 more in with the new type of stuff. 0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:51.800 Think about it. 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.560 So from the fund, if we keep with the fun 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.879 the fun uncle analogy, right, So let's say it's the 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.280 fun uncle that you respect, and that uncle comes in 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.720 and you haven't made your bed and he hears, you know, 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.280 the parent kind of yelling at you to go make 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:04.640 your bet and you haven't, and he kind of pulls 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.200 you aside and says, hey, Derek, come. 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:07.840 On now, yeah, you know you're supposed to make that. 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.080 Go ahead and knock that out. Make it easier on yourself. 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.200 Go ahead, knock that out. So we go outside and play, right. 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.040 Whereas Mike Zimmer, he would come in as the stern 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.120 day and why is this bed not made? So it's 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:20.560 it's just those two different types of dynamics both held 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.399 you accountable, but in two different ways. 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.200 And the interesting part about that is some kids respond 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.880 well to the stern dad and some the fun uncle, 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.520 and some don't respond to the dad, or some don't 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:35.280 respond to the fun uncle. That's the key when you're 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.359 coaching or leading. You got to figure out what works 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.240 for every person, and you got to give them what 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.080 actually motivates them. So my hope is that for whether 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:49.000 it's it's Mike Zimmer or whether it's McCarthy, they are 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.000 tailoring their style of leadership to each and every player 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.040 that they have to deal with, because every player is 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.639 going to respond differently, and all you're trying to do 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:56.840 at the end of the day is get the best 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.760 out of the player. So you better figure it out. 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.560 You better figure out what really mo tovase them. Some 0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.040 people they will cower when you go at them hard. 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.720 Other people take that as a challenge and they're like, okay, 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:07.919 let's go right. So it's like, you got to figure 0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:10.080 out what it is that really motivates the players and 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.040 then give them what really motivates. 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.600 I mean, like you said, that's what that's a huge 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.560 part of coaching at every level, whether it be Pop Warner, 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.040 high school, college you know D one, D two, or 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.040 if you're at the NFL. If you're a coaching you 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.040 know groups of individuals. You need to understand. It's not 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.480 indifferent from teaching. If you're a teacher, you have to 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.240 teach to each individual's personality, but you also have to 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.679 have this overarching message that basically is in line with 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:37.280 every single person you approach, because otherwise you run the 0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.920 danger of Okay, well, I always more stern with Derek 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.520 than Ambar. But then Derek comes to me and says, 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.080 why do you always come at me like this? But 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:47.320 you don't go with Ambar. So that's the respect aspect 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.440 of it. And so that just goes to coaching. Either 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.560 you're really good at that as a coach, and if 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.520 you are, then you're at this level, and if you're not, 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.480 then you shouldn't be at this level. But Zimmer has 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.520 proven time and again that he's able to coach the 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.440 old school way, but by way of the nineties with 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.000 the Cowboys and the personalities on his defense that he 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.800 got some personalities, but he's also shown that he can 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.720 coach the new age NFL player by way of the 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.040 Minnesota Viking. So I think, you know, he comes in 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.720 with enough breath of experience and that to make sure 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.800 that he marries quickly to this this locker room. 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:19.240 That's funny. 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.440 Think about the difference between a Charles Haley and Michael 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:26.200 Parson's right, from a personality standpoint, very very different people. 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:27.679 But that's social media. 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.800 Yeah right, jesus, I'm glad they didn't have social media 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.600 back there. That would have been a tough situation. All 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.240 R We're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.960 We're gonna talk about the Washington Commanders. 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It is the final segment of the Break. 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.800 We hear a live from SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.000 We're talking about coaches, and I want to extend the 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.040 conversation we've talked about the Cowboys new defensive coordinator, Mike Zimmer. 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.440 I want to extend that conversation now to talk about 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:39.080 some other coaching hires around the end of ceast and 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.560 how we think these hires may affect the Cowboys. Let's 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.520 start first in Washington. Obviously, they hired Dan Quinn as 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.680 their head coach, but they also pick up Joe wid Junior, 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.920 who was here last year as their defensive coordinator. How 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.960 much do you think that move or those moves affect 0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.520 the Cowboys with now their defensive coordinator being the head 0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:00.560 coach there and one of their defensive coach his assistant 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.440 coaches now being their defensive coordinator. 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.720 Well, we already know that the battles between the Commanders 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.960 and the Cowboys are always heightened because there's so much familiarity, 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.080 and I mean a lot of times they either go 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.480 down to the wire or they're just wildly unpredictable. Either 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.240 the Cowboys are blowing them out or they're blowing the 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.840 Cowboys out, and whatever the case may be. Now you 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.040 throw into the mix a guy like Dan Quinn who 0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.440 knows your offense inside out. Joe Witt knows your offense 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.800 inside out, and both of those guys also know both 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.720 the strengths and the opportunities for improvement of all of 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.040 your defensive guys, including your star guys like Micah and whatnot. 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.160 So of course when you look at dan Quinn, he's 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.320 going to be, you know, feeding his offense all kind 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.840 of intel on Well, this is how you attack Michael Parsons, 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.800 this is how you try to attack the Marcus Lawrence, 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.560 this is how you target to Ron Bland, things like that. 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.160 So I think that for the Commanders it's a huge, 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.760 huge level up because they basically poached one of the 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.400 biggest guys from the Cowboys, and then that guy poached 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.080 one of the other biggest guys from the Cowboys on 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.440 the defensive side of the ball. So thank goodness, the 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.520 Cowboys blocked the interview for Al Harris. Otherwise we'd have 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.040 that to contend with as well. But you know, if 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.000 you if you don't think not going with if you 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.960 don't think right. But I will say to everyone listening, 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:16.960 and I tweeted this as well, I saw Al Harris 0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.640 doing some work today. So Zimmer's in the building and 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.080 Al Harris is not only still here, but he's working. 0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.520 So that's a good sign. Keep your fingers crossed. But 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.480 I think it'd be disingenuous to pretend that you know 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.520 the Commander's poaching. Dan Quinn is not going to have 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.600 any impact. It's fun as a fan to say, oh, well, 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.440 it doesn't matter. As an analyst, it one hundred matters. 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.840 Like these contests are going to be that much more 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.080 intense going forward. 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.720 Yeah, for sure. And I mean they already have been. 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.400 Even though the commanders haven't been doing very well, it's still, 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.680 like you mentioned, every time they face each other, it's 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.480 still a competitive game and you never know exactly what 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:53.840 to expect. And I agree dan Quinn. I mean he 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:58.680 has a lot of insider information. He knows everything, He 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:03.960 knows everybody's and weaknesses over here, So that's gonna be interesting, 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.880 but at least I feel like outside those games, those 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.240 two games against the Cowboys, overall, I think it's gonna 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:15.280 it's it's a year of like rebuilding for the Commanders, 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:20.040 So I don't expect them overall to be extremely successful. 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:21.880 I say this, and you never know what happens. 0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.560 Yeah, that QB you get. 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:26.840 You never know what can happen. It can definitely happen, 0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:28.880 you can there can be a lot of surprises. But 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:30.959 as of right now, I just see it as a 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:34.600 rebuild year for them, just piecing finding all the pieces, 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.680 piecing it together and building for the future. So in general, 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.760 not concerned, but with the Cowboys definitely those two matches 0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:42.920 are something to watch now. 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:44.760 Also, this just kind of on the other side of 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.280 the Coin that I mentioned. Yeah, there's there's Coin and 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.440 Wit and they know the Cowboys offense, but that means 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.360 McCarthy and Schottenheimer. They know Dan Quinn and Joe Witch 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.000 defense and what their tendencies are, what they like to run, 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.560 so that that pendulum swings both ways. So while it 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.080 will work against the Cowboys and you know of the 0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.080 Commanders with Quinn and Wit knowing what the tendencies are, 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.720 also means that McCarthy knows what dan quinn is likely 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.840 to call it in any given situation, how to attack 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:09.360 his defense. 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:09.640 Yeah. 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.960 Quite Frankly, I think it probably if you want to 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.640 use the word compromise, I think that's a bit of 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.160 a strong word. But if you want to use that word, 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.160 it compromises the Cowboys offense far more than the defense 0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.160 in my opinion. I know you mentioned earlier he knows 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.920 their defensive players, but I do think scheme matters, and 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.040 I think they'll probably be doing a lot of things 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.440 differently defensively that may accentuate some positives and affect some 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.360 of the things that dan Quinn could or Joe Wood 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.760 could say, well, this is how you get Darron Bland. Well, 0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.960 I would think the defensive coordinator at this point would 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.640 look at it and say, Okay, I know these are 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:42.200 some challenges of this player. How does my scheme put 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.479 them in a better position. So I think, actually, if 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.760 you want to say one of them may be compromised more, 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.760 it may be. You know, what we know is this 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.040 is what they do on their offense. Here's how you 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.880 can affect Dak Prescott. Here's how you can affect their 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.360 right tackle. Here's you know what I'm saying, because they've 0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.640 been you know, self scouting. They have that kind of information, 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.360 and that's where I think it's gonna be a little 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.880 bit harder. It'll be harder on the Dallas offense, I 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.000 think than the Dallas defense because the Dallas defense will 0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.359 probably change so much with. 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:09.040 A new coordinator. 0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.680 But also going to Ambar's point, and you make a 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.960 fair point as far as it compromising the Cowboys offense, 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:19.120 but it is a rebuild for the Commanders and their 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.520 defensive line. I mean, you have the two big boys 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.440 up front of the interior and pain and Island. They 0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.720 got a pass rush, but you don't have any edge rushers. 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:26.960 Right. 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.200 Your secondary is more or less in shamboos. Your linebacker 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:35.040 corps is quite right. So as much as dan Quinn 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.440 has the person not the personnel, but has the scheme 0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.400 to kind of compromise the Cowboys offense, the Cowboys offense 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.040 has the firepower to compromise a being basically a revamped 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.799 personnel on the Commander's side of the ball defensively, So 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.560 ultimately it might all just be a wash and it 0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.359 might just come down to execution. Who has the better 0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.680 players and right now it's the Cowboys and Ken McCarthy 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.240 not be out schemed by dan quinn. 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.680 So I mean, for us looking at. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.760 It, it's probably just going to feel like a training 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.560 camp battle, right is dan quinn's play calling versus Mike 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:07.560 McCarthy's play calling. 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.640 And we saw that all July and August. So let's 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.320 flip to the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.919 They have two new coordinators that both are interesting from 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.400 the standpoint of the Cowboys their offense. New offensive coordinator, 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.040 Kelvin Moore obviously was here with the Cowboys for years 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.560 as the offensive coordinator. Here Vic Fangio, is there a 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.880 new defensive coordinator, a guy that is I think I 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.239 think some of the talk around Fangio has been a 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.400 little bit overblown. I do think obviously when he was 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:38.400 in Denver that game the Cowboys played against the Broncos, 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.680 he certainly had the better of the Cowboys offense. 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.480 I don't think I agree with that. 0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.080 Last year against Miami, I think I don't think that 0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.920 the Miami defense necessarily shut down the Cowboys offense. 0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:49.919 I thought it was a close game. 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.719 I thought both teams had a little success and had 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.960 some issues where you know it didn't quite work out, 0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.319 But I don't think it was a domination, where I too, 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:57.680 that's what it is. 0:35:57.719 --> 0:35:59.120 Yeah, would't think that was a domination. 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.120 But that all being said, looking at those two guys, 0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.080 which of those you think could be most problematic for 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.960 the Cowboys Kelvin Moore's offensive coordinator or Vick Fango as 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:07.840 a defensive coordinator. 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:10.400 That's a good question. 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.680 It would be easy to say Keller Moore because you 0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.960 know familiarity, right, But what Kellen Moore is not familiar 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.839 with is Mike Zimmer. So advantage Cowboys there because it's 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:23.759 not Kella Moore going against dan Quinn. And even when 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.040 it was killing Moore going against dan Quyn and Los Angeles, 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.200 dan Quinn and the Cowboys came out with the w so, 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.839 but like I said, he doesn't he being Kella Moore, 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.080 he doesn't know Mike Zimmer's scheme and what he's going 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.800 to call. So I'm going to look at Vic Fangio 0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:40.680 in this aspect because Fangio has had some consistent success 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:42.359 in kind of bodiling up. 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.160 Dak Prescott and what Dak likes to do. 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.960 So I think that while like you said, it wasn't 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.920 you know, Fangio with the Dolphins. It wasn't this, It 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.880 wasn't Steve Spagnolo down there type performance type thing. But 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.680 he's one of the better and more respective defensive minds 0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.200 in the league going to your division, one of your 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.960 bitter divisional So I think it's going to be a 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.919 bigger challenge for Dak to get over the Fangio quote 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.759 unquote hump. If that's how you want to label it, 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.440 then it would be for Mike Zimber to sche or 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.239 out scheme Kellen Moore, who at times struggled in Los 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.399 Angeles as well, because keep in mind, if Kellen Moore 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.400 was so electric in Los Angeles, he's still be in 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.920 Los Angeles as opposed to one and done. So I'm 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.480 going to look at evangel and versus Dak Prescott, and 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.560 I think this is one of the few defensive coordinators 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:30.200 that Dak Prescott consistently kind of struggles to be explosive against. 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.480 So if you can figure that out, then the Eagles 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:33.479 will be less of a problem. 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:34.680 But they're going to be a problem. 0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:35.279 Yeah. 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:39.160 To me, they're kind of equal in a little bit 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:45.520 regarding your question. But Vangeol, He's like, I'm more impressed 0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.520 with what the Dolphins were able to do at the 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.360 end of the day, the season they had, So I 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:54.120 got to take that kind of experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.759 So I'm taking just that experience, his most recent experience 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.560 and the level of success that he had to that 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.840 being a little bit higher than what Kellen Moore brings 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:05.959 to the table right now. 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.240 Yeah, the interesting part for me is I actually think 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.320 Fangio had that defense playing really well. I think they'll 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.839 correct some of their personnel issues in the secondary, but 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.799 the fact that he has that pass rush and he 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.239 has some horses up front, and I think the thing 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.120 that Fangio does really well is he knows how to 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.239 get pressure. And I think because he had now there's 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.080 some I know, I thought you about to go there 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.719 with the there is a possibility that somebody might be 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.719 a little disgruntled and might not be back. But that 0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:31.960 all being said, let's assume they have all the personnel 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.120 that they have right now. If they have the personnel 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.680 they have right now, that defense will be scary. They 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.840 will have a pass rush and it will be difficult. 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.520 The more interesting part is the offense for me, because 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.360 people can can try to you know, I think a 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.879 lot of Cowboys fans look at Kellen Moore in a. 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.240 Way that he shouldn't be viewed. 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:50.080 I think they look at him as lesser than what 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.560 he was. He had some really good offenses here with Dallas. 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.799 He cast some really good offense and they I mean 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.359 they were talking. Yeah, they were up at the top 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.000 of the league in offense. And don't get me wrong, 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.880 yes they had challenges against some opponents. They'd have some 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.520 challenges sometimes in the playoffs. All those things are true, 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:09.920 got it. But by and large he called an offense 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:14.799 that was consistently really good and probably among and not 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.239 probably among the best in the league. So when you 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.040 look at it from that standpoint, and you look at 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.279 where the Eagles were last year, especially at the end 0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.080 of the season on their offense, where they feel it 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.839 felt like they were really stifled, I think that's where 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.400 I'm more interested in. How does he turn that around? 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:29.960 Does he get them into it? So, does he get 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.120 Jalen Hurst to play a certain brand of football that 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.839 makes him as good as Dak Prescott. There was a time, 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:37.799 not last year, but year before last one, a lot 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:39.160 of people were saying Jalen Hurst was one of the 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.640 better quarterbacks in the league, and last year things fell off. 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:43.480 It wasn't the same. 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.600 They weren't able to do all the things they did before. 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.600 I'm interested to see if Kellen Wore can get that 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.720 out of that offense because they got talent on the offense. 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:51.959 They got a great offensive line, they got great skill 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.480 position players, so they got talent. I want to see 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:55.920 how he puts that together. So that's going to be 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:56.560 the interesting one. 0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.879 But to that point, this is also why I view 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.719 Fangio as the bigger threat of the two, because the 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.000 first when I heard the news that Kella Moore was 0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.080 going to join the Eagles as offensive courting, the first 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.319 thing that popped in my head was how does he 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.040 fit with what Jalen Hurts does well? Right, this is 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:18.120 a run first offense in Philadelphia. They do so much 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.479 damage on the ground bit with Jalen Hurts his legs, 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.400 DeAndre Swift, those guys in the backfield. But one of 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.640 the reasons that Kellen Moore was on the outs here 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.480 in Dallas on the back end of his career here 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.120 is because he wanted to pass the ball. And he 0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.200 even he stood at the podium one day admitted it. 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.759 He said if it were up to me, I just passed, pass, past, 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.200 passed sixty times a game. But he said, and I quote, 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.280 but I've had to learn to kind of scale back. Okay, 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.320 which Kella Moore is showing up in Philadelphia? Is it 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.399 the one that sees Devonte Smith and sees aj Brown 0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.360 and sees Dallas Goddard and say, well, I have these weapons. 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:49.799 I just want to throw, throw, throw, throw, throw. 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.799 Well, Jalen Hurts showed last year that while he can 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.800 drop back and throw, he if you force him to 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.319 throw forty five fifty times, you'll probably win that game. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.080 So I wonder, how y all killing Moore is going 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.320 to your point, how is he going to ask Jalen 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.719 Hurts to play the game of football going forty? Is 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:06.840 he going to say, I'm going to make you a 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.840 forty forty time dropbacker. If that's the case, the Cowboys 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.440 have to be thrilled with that, because that's what you 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.239 want to see, especially with Trevon Diggs returning. You got 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.160 de Ron Bland, if you can get Stefan Gilmore, your 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.920 secondary is good against that. But if they're not willing 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.800 to run the ball and at least create some sembilance, 0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.960 of balance, then you have a better chance of your 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.880 pass rush being successful because your pass rush is going 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.480 to be asked to go out the quarterback more often 0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:29.160 than to stop the run. 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.960 So let me ask you this question, who's better DeAndre 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:33.480 Swift or AJ Brown? 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:36.520 Well? AJ Brown? AJ Brown. 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.760 The only point I'm gonna make here is that's great 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.319 to say unless he gets to Philadelphia and has a 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.759 way of developing Jalen Hurts into being a guy that 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.040 could throw the ball forty times a game because he's 0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.400 got the wide receivers and the tight end that if 0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.000 he can get it going, he would be deadly. Like 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.160 that would be a deadly offense if they get that 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.480 passing game going consistently enough. Right, So don't get me wrong, 0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.600 I'm not saying that Jalen may or may not be 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.840 there yet. What I'm saying is Kellen Moore was able 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.000 to do with By the way, when Dak Prescott got 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:07.759 to the NFL, most people didn't call him a drop 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.640 back passage, right. Somehow he developed into a drop back 0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.239 passer and now can light you up. 0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.799 Right, That's why he developed great. 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.240 Great, But my point is it doesn't mean you can't 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:19.920 do it. It doesn't mean that if you come in 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.239 and you are this doesn't mean that within a year's time, 0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.719 two years time, whatever, you can't develop into something else. 0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.759 I think that that's where I look at it, and 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.439 that's my point. I think that's the more interesting hire 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.680 to me is I want to see if Kellen can 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.120 get that passing game going in a way where they 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.439 can really take advantage of those skill position players. Because 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.760 I don't think there aren't many teams in the league 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.440 that have better skill position players. 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.319 Their teams have a better quarterback. I don't know that 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:45.600 there are. 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.440 Many to have better skill position players. So when you 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.120 start looking at from that standpoint, he's got something to 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.160 work with. If they can develop the things they want 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.240 to develop and Hurts, it can get really really really 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:54.920 interesting out there. 0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.040 For that's true, It just feels like the if, the 0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.359 question of if is bigger on the killing more side 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:00.600 of the ball than fanjis. 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:02.480 All Right, we appreciate you guys join us. 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.240 We're back next week and we'll get into some maybe 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:09.120 some time tom we'll see how We'll see how it 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.359 goes and U we'll just we'll play it. By year, 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.359 there'll meet maybe news there will be something we got 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.200 to talk about. We're only a couple of weeks from 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.919 free agency starting, so there's a lot that we still 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.280 got to get into as we get ready for free agency, 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.680 and hopefully, hopefully this year there'll be a little bit 0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:25.280 of that all in juice on on free. 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:26.640 Agent, free agency, on a parade. 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.080 Stop it all right, We appreciate you join us. We'll 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.440 be back next week with Patrick Walker and Amber Garcia. 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.040 I'm Derek Eiltson. This has been The Break live on 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.600 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.200 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.160 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.